Casual Saturday - Deliver Us The Moon 1.1

You may recall my covering this independent game some time ago when it was in Early Access, well now it's been finished, and I was curious to see how the story panned out...
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[@GemmaLB]

Who else is waiting for the Xenomorph to jump out at Jingles?

[@1stPCFerret]

*Me! Me!*

[@BannerLee]

ME! ME! ME!

[@boingkster]

BREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

[@QueenKittyMonster]

Well, I was going to make a comment about Xenomorphs but I see someone has beaten me to it

[@MrStarTraveler]

Mee mee mee!... Me too. XD

[@bjrneirikstrkersen1021]

*Cracks open ASE* *Reads plaque inside cover* "Made and designed by Aperture Science" *Runs away*

[@bjrneirikstrkersen1021]

"Houston, we have a problem here" ...... "Houston?" .... "Hou.." "I Am aFrAid HoUstOn hAs LeFt. aLL oF tHeM. tHeY SaiD YoU wEre UGLY aNd WeNt to gEt cAKe. aNd bY 'wEnT to gEt cAKe', I mEAn 'sUfFoCatEd oN DeAdlY NEUROtoXinS.' buT tHe UgLy PArt iS sTiLL trUe. aT LEAst tHirTy pErcEnt." "nOw, aRe yOu rEAdy tO TesT sOmE SCIence?"

[@magscorch7706]

@@bjrneirikstrkersen1021 A little cringe but B- on the effort

[@bent404]

For the people who are still alive. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXq2aX1qmt1pi8U

[@billyhyde1415]

Tombaugh: Clyde Tombaugh was the astronomer who discovered Pluto, in 1930. I expect it's the name of another facility or location, or perhaps a device, rather than a person.

[@dunkelctankwie8019]

Man, WoT sure has changed since i last played it.

[@thesystima]

Yeah, the jump from tanks to wheeled to flying orbs really went fast

[@dunkelctankwie8019]

@@thesystima indeed

[@thesystima]

@@dunkelctankwie8019 I've been away from wot for a couple of months and coming back to the new stuff.. The British finally got their lights haha, makes me feel better about being a German main

[@llearch]

I parsed this as Wheel of Time. I'm old, right? :-/

[@Dr_Mauser]

ASE: "Space! Space! I'm in Spaaaace!"

[@void870]

The cake is a lie

[@budmeister]

@@void870 So are the deer.

[@lamariolevy]

When you actually remember the first video and feel like a channel veteran lol

[@nikond90ful1]

Thanks for the video Salt Mine Overlord. New title " How Jingles broke the Moon."

[@MrLapidary]

As long as he's not landing on it.

[@ericmyrs]

Actually Jingles, I live in Norway, and you'll find that Deliver us the Moon is about the cost of two beers, at your local pub. Barring any crazy craft beer or otherwise overpriced stuff.

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

Scientists: _"Guys the Power Supply is offline. We should go fix it"_ Governments: _"I know let's go do literally anything else!"_

[@samsadowitz1724]

This right here is all too true.....

[@TrueFireMessiah]

Trump: "The blackout is fake news. Trust me, its true"

[@gzer0x]

Another Bush and Cheney were voted in. Suddenly it was like “welp time to declare war for oil rather than fix anything”

[@clamum]

Literally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally

[@vyctordraco948]

@@TrueFireMessiah More like the Democrats: "The Blackout is an existential threat! We must not fix it or we will not have a platform to get more power next election cycle! Just tell everyone we have a plan.....but for gods sake dont actually make one, or let AOC tell anyone one....she is a useful idiot."

[@Hasi105]

I just wait and watch until Jingles descoveres an alien xD

[@toshomni9478]

Then immediately quits playing and leaves us hanging in suspense forever.

[@jimcameron9848]

Nice to see the abandoned moon facility without the typical graffiti and gang tags that has become so common these days on abandoned moon facilities.

[@jackee-is-silent2938]

All that sun-bleached vacuum outside is good for keeping the rift-raft at bay.

[@alansmith8893]

I kind of want there to be a Jingles/Scott Manley Kerbal Space Program video. That actually is rocket science. Turns out it's kind of hard.

[@Charron684]

didnt they have helium 3 in IRON SKY that movie about moon nazi's cause i think i know what happened to everyone

[@andrewphillips8341]

The same with 2009 Moon

[@CaptainCorneliusArgo]

Helium 3 on the moon is a tried and tested thing in sci-fi. It is nearly always the old: lack of resources on Earth, helium 3 has been found on the moon and so there is either already a moonbase there to harness it's use in fusion power, or you need to build one. Another example is the game Anno 2205 where you need to build fusion power up there.

[@TallulahSoie]

_It just works._ Moon is an amazing film and highly recommended.

[@Hellsong89]

Sure, but there actually is helium 3 on the moon, really relative easily mined, but problem comes where we dont have suitable fusion reactors at hand, cause there is very little helium3 on earth making development of such reactor really expensive and furthermore problem comes to how to transport fuel to earth. This game is actually has good idea about it by having reactors on moon near the fuel and then move energy using lasers or microwave radiation to earths receiving stations around the globe. Still issue is to build the facilities on the moon. There is no breathable air, low gravity, harmful radiation from the space and micro meteorites would pummel facility to pulp if suitable shielding method is developed(same problem with space craft in general). There reasons are causing delay on utilizing said energy production. Also corporations, governments and banks are not really keen on developing space mining, as asteroid belt for instance has asteroids full of resources like gold where one cargo load of gold brought to earth would drop golds value so low and fiat currencies being tied to golds value fiat currency would also drop.

[@Depipro]

FYI: Nicolaus Copernicus is the Latinized version of Mikołaj Kopernik (there's a pronunciation button for that on the Polish version of his wikipedia page), so any apologies, if applicable, should go to the Romans instead. ;)

[@ulrikadad3343]

Depipro FYI Nicolaus Copernicus is the latinized version of Niklas Koppernigk, who was a Prussian and spoke German or Latin all his life. He was the nephew of the influential prince bishop of the Hanse city of Thorn, Lucas Watzenrode and a very influential administrator of the early Prussian union of cities himself. Yes, he fought with the Polish king against the German Order and Thorn is nowadays a part of Poland. But Kopernikus would’ve vehemently denied being polish......

[@Depipro]

@@ulrikadad3343 Your use of "Prussian" implying "German" is an anachronism in this case. The German "Kingdom of Prussia" was founded in 1701, with the specific purpose of not being subordinate to the Holy Roman Emperor (which its predecessor state of Brandenburg was). In Copernicus's time, Prussia, the ancestral land of the Prusai (a Baltic people), was contested between the Polish crown and the Teutonic Order. As for Copernicus's family name, it has been spelled in different ways depending on the language of the one doing the spelling, but his family has been traced back to Silesia. Which makes sense, since -nik is a perfectly normal Slavic suffix. Copernicus's mother was half-Polish, half-German, which is where the Watzenrode connection comes in. So, to be entirely correct here: Copernicus was the child of at least three peoples: Silesian, Polish and German.

[@Depipro]

@@murderouskitten2577 I'm not blaming them for anything, on the contrary, I'm saying that they should receive the apologies.

[@cezaryrak-ejma2436]

There has been discussion of Copernicus' nationality and of whether it is meaningful to ascribe to him a nationality in the modern sense. Nicolaus Copernicus was born and raised in Royal Prussia, a semiautonomous and polyglot region of the Kingdom of Poland. He was the child of German-speaking parents and grew up with German as his mother tongue. His first alma mater was the University of Kraków in Poland. When he later studied in Italy, at the University of Bologna, he joined the German Nation, a student organization for German-speakers of all allegiances (Germany would not become a nation-state until 1871). His family stood against the Teutonic Order and actively supported the city of Toruń during the Thirteen Years' War (1454-66). Copernicus' father lent money to Poland's King Casimir IV Jagiellon to finance the war against the Teutonic Knights, but the inhabitants of Royal Prussia also resisted the Polish crown's efforts for greater control over the region. Encyclopædia Britannica, Encyclopedia Americana, The Concise Columbia Encyclopedia, The Oxford World Encyclopedia, and World Book Encyclopedia refer to Copernicus as a "Polish astronomer". Sheila Rabin, writing in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, describes Copernicus as a "child of a German family [who] was a subject of the Polish crown", while Manfred Weissenbacher writes that Copernicus's father was a Germanized Pole. There are additional arguments for Kopernik's Polish descent on his father's side. Kopernik's Y-DNA haplogroup, R1b L51, is found in southern Poland (in Silesia, where his father came from and Little Poland) and in France and in Italy, but not in Germany or Austria and is most commonly referred to Celtic people, in Poland slavicized prior to 6th-7th century. The surname Kopernik is typically Polish, with its suffix -nik, indicating an occupation (e.g. cukiernik, "confectioner", or górnik, "miner"); while Koper- may refer to koprowina, an old Polish term for the Latin "cuprum" ("copper"). The surname Kopernik is now found in Poland in 130 persons, and in Germany in only 22, mostly Polish immigrants to Germany. The Kopernik family likely derives its name from the Silesian village of Koperniki, in the duchy of Nysa, where they lived prior to moving to Kraków. The 1493 Nuremberg Chronicle describes the Nysa rural population's language as Polish: "plebs rustica polonici ydeomatis...". During the Middle Ages, Silesia's Polish Piast rulers brought German-speaking settlers to towns, for their knowledge of the Magdeburg laws and their ability to implement associated rearranging of town layout in a regular, more easily taxable grid; while the indigenous Silesian population spoke Polish, only much later fully assimilating to the German language of the hereditary civic leaders. So long story short - the Germans love to steal from the Poles, the success has many fathers, but a defeat is an orphan. Btw when it comes to German approach towards Poland - what's new in the subject of WWII reparations? 😏 (those weren't your doing by any chance?)

[@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety]

@@murderouskitten2577 And Austrians like to make German achievements their own, and their achievements, German.

[@berndberndsen5680]

"The bits can only go together in the right order" Preventing predictable assembly or user errors is actually an established design principle, called Poka-yoke.

[@timesthree5757]

Also called "dummy proof" in english.

[@UMOdegaard]

Oh SNAP! A shot at Norway? Wanna go there? 158 NOK for this game is actually almost 1,5 pints of beer... Take that you... you NINCOMPOOP!

[@sfs2040]

I think you mean 1.5*

[@kiIIah69]

@@sfs2040 Most European countries use comma as a decimal separator.

[@Emesh83]

Considering a "Round of beers" means you by all your attending friends a beer the price of this game can be really really high...or really dirt cheap ...all depending on how many friends you invited with you to the bar...ofc unless Jingles here means a round of beers to the whole bar....then the game is a few 100£...we'll all find out when we check steam

[@llearch]

@TheWingsofprey You have 1? Wow. I'm envious. ;-]

[@timesthree5757]

A round of beers means 2 for yer self.

[@shoootme]

As an engineer, if there is 2 ways of assembling something, and one of those is wrong, then make it again, because the apprentice working the shop floor is not a mind reader and its not there fault if they get it wrong.

[@jimbo9305]

No doubt. I'm not an engineer but I know a good design is one in which the right way to assemble is the only way the pieces fit together. There should be a physical limitation that keeps the pieces from fitting together incorrectly.

[@Celebmacil]

Case in point: The M60 machine gun gas piston.

[@kilianortmann9979]

You know it's good advice if there is a japanese name to it. Its called poka yoke, well its a part of poka yoke. The whole concept is even broader in scope and pretty cool in its simplicity.

[@esbendit]

@@Celebmacil Or the Ross rifle.

[@jakefromspace4659]

@@jimbo9305 Can Confirm, I work the floor and I can read Ladder Diagrams, Blue-prints, and Electrical Diagrams, but not minds.

[@zackattack8679]

Game just started and Jingles already needs to take his brave pills and strap his man-pants on...our FEARLESS leader at work!

[@margoparts6419]

I love these storyline type game playthroughs with Jingles - so entertaining. Rarely watch World of Creditcard series vids. :D

[@twig4661]

oh wow... accurate. i quit war gaming years ago because of that. i refuse to load gold ammo and instead relied on flanking and smart play.... guess how well that worked for me.

[@nemlas85]

This! It feels like this is the series I've been waiting for since Subnautica.

[@shawndavis8576]

Who else is getting flashbacks of NOT going to the Aurora?

[@InfectiousDust]

Thank you for introducing me to this game Jingles, I'm really enjoying it!

[@peterscrafton5592]

Much more entertaining than that leaping on the mountains of "Scotland". I don't think that the person has yet been born who might have the upper body strength to achieve all of those jumps

[@TobiasRieper047]

F*CK YES! Please continue this as a series. I loved it when you played this game back in the days!

[@natestryker]

Jingles, I love these casual vids. Keep up the greay work!!

[@Islacrusez]

Oh hey, I saw a trailer for this just yesterday. Been meaning to look closer at it... Jingles delivers (us the moon)!

[@SeraphinoII]

The glados-like robot suggest that this will be just a puzzle game. ;)

[@justmyopinion2818]

i found this interesting, looking forward to seeing what is next :-D

[@CrunchyCarot]

Definitely going to need more of this series.

[@Echristoffe]

I really love this game thanks jingles to introduce us such good game.

[@mattpovah5952]

Thorium from plain old earth will provide us all the power we will need for the foreseeable.

[@tba113]

If we can ever push past the red tape and NIMBY harpies, yeah, I'm on board. Any problems thorium reactors have are there in conventional fission systems, and thorium enjoys some advantages that uranium doesn't. I always wonder about these games that use an energy crisis as a plot motivator for exoplanet mining. I mean, we have the technology to build colonies on other worlds (or in this case, a space elevator, a self-sustaining colony, and a shipyard on the moon), but we somehow _don't_ have the tech to Dyson-belt the sun? We can do that today, and the only reasons we don't are because space launches are still a bit too expensive for power plants and because people don't understand how microwave power transmission works.

[@darkhowling6425]

The Xenomorph from Isolation is waiting on the moon station for you Jingles... it misses you...

[@spooks4771]

Dark Howling LOL

[@nofunatall4094]

The key to rocket science is always more struts. The thrill master himself wouldnt hurt.

[@11bravocrunchie22]

I see how this series is going to be. Anytime Jingles accomplishes the most mundane task that a 3rd grader could complete successfully in half the time, it’s “tune in next time for more!”

[@tomchizek9670]

Well darn, now you have me hooked on watching you play another game. I had resisted most of your videos except World of Warships, but...hell, this was great. You know you are to blame for me starting to play World of Warships, if you get me hooked on another game, well I guess I'll just have to thank you.

[@clamum]

I love Casual Saturday. You should do another Casual day during the week, Jingles!

[@xNeoTerrax]

Right time for a break, new jingles video :)

[@Keklord_]

Hooray! I was waiting so long :)

[@woofdogmeow]

-yay my new story time with jingles

[@davidchrysostom695]

Finding this after watching his commentary on Deliver Us Mars

[@Swordie100]

Rocket Science has little room for error, as opposed to that ASE. Loved the narration Jingles.

[@LeifPalmin]

Love it! Listen to this wile playing SC

[@NativeWarrior081]

Best video game that takes place in space is still hands down "Alien Isolation". I would really love a Alien Isolation 2.

[@sfs2040]

About time they finished the final part. I've been waiting forever for it. Interesting that you only finished the station because I bought this shortly after your first video and the version I had went all the way to the power station before ending.

[@lordjaraxxus2435]

Keep up the good work Jingles. The legions love your content.

[@seaninness334]

Jingles, in man pants, on the moon.... weeeeeee heh

[@strilight]

Fly Me To The Moooon~

[@boingkster]

I just need an ASE to... get through these locked doors.

[@penguinsentinel8508]

Glad to see this back. Hopefully we can find out what happened.

[@Vespuchian]

The backstory intro to this game makes me wince: after investing so much into a lunar fusion power/microwave transmission system, apparently becoming reliant on it for energy, once the power goes out the people funding the project declare "no, we're done with the moon"? There's no indication of alternative power structures, like solar satellites or anything, just "well, the power's out, I guess we'll not have power anymore and _no_ you can't just go find out what the problem is, _we don't want to know"_ I'm sure it's explained better in the game but damn the intro is a real headbanger.

[@darthkarl99]

TLDR: Earth basically used up all it's major expendable resources launching the initial moon mission. They don't have the means, (without beamed power from the moon), to run everything they need to extract the remaining hard to acquire resources to successfully launch a full scale rescue mission. Some of the stuff on the rocket launch from earth portion also implies that in the 5 years since the blackout the major world governments have functionally collapsed. Not that any of this is reasonable. We actually have coal and fissionable reserves great enough to last us for centuries to come each even if we ran our entire power infrastructure off it.

[@Vespuchian]

@@darthkarl99 Exactly my point. The whole setup for this game seems like an excuse to have you explore this station alone so they wouldn't have to animate other people, which seems a bit overkill since you (and presumably any other members of a rescue/investigation that would have been there) are wearing a helmet. If they changed the setup to "Dark-Side Observatory 3 has gone dark. We're starting investigation/rescue protocols and you're the closest one there." you could have your mystery without the nonsense "save the world with MOON ENERGY".

[@workingguy6666]

@@Vespuchian So are you guys saying the game isn't worth buying? I buy maybe one game a year, so don't want to make a mistake here. It does seem the be that scripted BS walk-through of a game. We saw some choices on 'skills' I guess, but that seems to be the extend of it.

[@Vespuchian]

@@workingguy6666 I haven't seen enough of the gameplay to make a buy/don't buy call, but it does your game no favours if the story hook, the thing that's supposed to get people interested in your game, instead makes people scratch their heads in confusion. I genuinely hope this is a good game despite first impressions (support smaller developers!) but my expectations have been lowered significantly from these episodes.

[@workingguy6666]

@@Vespuchian Thank you.

[@tgreen1071]

Jingles: you memby? Me: yeah I memby

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

Aaa this one AGAIN! Awesome!

[@blue2sco]

It will turn into Alien Isolation now

[@Orkxys]

comming from a norwegian guy - the Norway puns are just spot on!

[@MM-lv8ib]

Yay casual Saturday!

[@Seahorn_]

Nice refference to the Ringworld universe with that Pearson station :D

[@daszieher]

Nice! More games that I would never come across!

[@Tiglath-Pileser3]

Ahh, they finally released the end? Going to have to stop the video here and come back later. Off to the steam downloads!

[@quaraexen]

Jingles, you've got to play Red Matter! It's a space-puzzle game kind of like this, but in VR. I've played through and it's an awesome game. Check it out! It's available on Steam.

[@MCMLXIX]

nice to see the followup

[@dkearney5951]

2:13 it kicks in i remember you playing this game.

[@atlehunekonge]

Good stuff, I will spend the money for half a beer on this.

[@suryia6706]

This looks like fun

[@CodGamerThe]

Love it

[@homelessjedi2843]

More content on this yes I really liked this game and watching later cause I want to go play it be back later

[@Yuzral]

And sometimes it doesn't need the naked flame either. Just needs you to mix them. Or breathe. Or look at them funny. Hypergolic substances are *fun*!

[@airplanenut89]

I left a Civ 5 game saved on my pc from last year. I had forgotten how long ago it was and let me just say that it's very difficult to try and remember who you were supposed to be invading when you left your military forces en route to their destinations.

[@MrEkjelland]

Hey, Jingles! I live in Norway, and the price of the game is about 1.5 pint of beers. If you're lucky ;-)

[@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety]

Series! Series! Series! Series!

[@Bastian_Norge]

Jingles, Thanks for reminding me that I'm living in one of the world's most expensive countries... Just to give an idea what the prices are here in Norway: If you buy a 6pack beer with 0,5l-cans, you pay round about 19 pound sterling (this is 220(-ish) norwegian kroners). And thank you very much for re-showing this game. I totally forgot about it... ---> Steam next!

[@connosaurus]

Marbas Lam Canada is not far behind, but it's still a great place to live.

[@twig4661]

i thought norway was awesome bc you guys have soo many benefits and its really safe there.

[@Bastian_Norge]

@@twig4661 It is indeed! You know, Norway is the country of my choice, I was born and raised in Germany... and don't regret one single day.

[@Bastian_Norge]

@@connosaurus isn't Canada a bit like the "big Norway"? :)

[@twig4661]

@@Bastian_Norge so why does it cost soo much for beer? do you have extreme taxes on it or is everything that expensive?

[@MrSmertmert]

Woho Norway!

[@Crankster409]

So Jingles is finally going to take his man pants back from Rita? I think not, she will get the whip out again and put him to work in his own salt mine!

[@panther-nk2hn]

Jingles, you better name the ASE. My personal recommendation: Sauron. Because it looks like an eye. Eye of Sauron.

[@Razvy800]

No,he should be named Wheatley. After the personality core in Portal which this thing resembles

[@MrSteroband]

Xenomorphs Jingles. Crapping yourself whrn a Xenomorph show up with a facehugger just for you

[@craighudson2696]

Been looking at this

[@unfluffydave8798]

I've seen the Alien movies too many times to ever think this is going to end well :)

[@Darckstar52]

More please!!

[@Flambass]

Oh snap, they released more content.... *turns off the video* Sry Jingles...can't watch this... I know what's my next re-download from Steam gonna be

[@MrMurphyum]

You've got to show us some of this too ;)

[@boraeananaren]

I think you have covered this section, all seems very familiar.

[@clintrobinson2701]

@Flambass are you doing more vids on this game?

[@sawekkucharzyk2329]

Flambass was much further in the story than this, on the surface, riding the train to Tombaugh.

[@bosunbones.8815]

@@sawekkucharzyk2329 Ah! That's why I was confused! I was watching Flambass play through! I was remebering seeing luna rovers and scratching my head.

[@akustihakonen7928]

It's that damn grey object in the sky at night game again

[@____tyrael_______3437]

Kopernik in Polish sounds like the english metal -copper- and the name -Nick- copperNick!! Greets from PL ;)

[@brisngrfiftysix6085]

Does anyone else want to have Jingles play To the Moon? I want to hear how he copes with all those feels.

[@WilhelmImperatorRex]

Jingles, i dont want to upset you, nor any Pole who was mentioning that Nicolaus Copernicus is the latinized version of his "real name" "Mikołaj Kopernik" which is of corse right, but his name was actually "Niklas Koppernigk" a german speaking man of the city of Thorn, son of Niklas Koppernigk and Barbara Watzenrode. "Mikołaj Kopernik" is the polonized version of his name.

[@ieuanmcarthur9749]

Oh of course....the suspected bad guy would be one of my bloody relatives...fantastic...

[@SecularFelinist]

Lead Engineer is named Isaac. Nice.

[@koczisek]

Regarding secret service guys, you certainly didn't read about OSS operations in French Indochina, Edward Lansdale, and didn't listen to Fletcher Prouty's interviews, what I recommend!

[@generalsaufenberg4931]

since you where unable to kill the alien in alien isolation, i bet, it is waiting for you on the moon somewhere. it's probably just sneaking up from behind.^^

[@softgunruler]

As a Norwegian, I can confirm this

[@Megatank29]

Moon's Haunted

[@kikotanto2980]

In Polish we don't actually call him Nicholas Copernicus, we call him Mikołaj Kopernik

[@SamuelHarrison]

Good morning everyone

[@TheRCScotsman]

Good morning, Sir!

[@arturbaleja3907]

Jingles you actually got Copernicus right. As he lived in continental, midevial Europe, everyone was speaking latin. Copernicus is actually the latin form of his name. His full name in Polish is Mikołaj Kopernik. I think this name is kind of probouncible even in English. Greetings from Poland

[@Sparkie1961]

i just checked this game out on gog before starting youtube

[@aleksanderdomanski222]

Copernicus is a latin version of his name.

[@LionofCaliban]

I'm hoping to see some drunken space logic soon Jingles.

[@suitsupply7079]

Pls make these episodes longer Jingles!

[@eric97909]

Ah yes, the polish astronomer Copper-nickers

[@kraxus03]

Completed this last night...for what you pay for it, it definitely works your brain problem solving...the ending is weak though. Total gameplay was 8 hours (yes I got seriously stuck on a couple of parts towards the end).

[@Alderboran]

I was expecting a different ending to the brave-sentence, more something along the lines of what happens in another space game that we shall not mention (too loudly): "When I strap my manpants on and bolt the other way as fast as I can"

[@DataDawg59369]

So, to be clear, this game just updated and Jingles plays through about a 3rd of the first chapter that everyone and their mother has seen over and over again showing us zero new content.... Oof... Love your vids Jingles, hope there is another video coming soon where you actually get past the train ride to the station after next (where chapter 1 ends)...

[@Pienimusta]

In Finland you don't even get coaster for the price of the game. (And they are increasing the taxes)