Causing Your Own Problems with John Doyle

[@SkycometAnimeVamp]

“DeCommodify medicine.” I work as a pharmacy technician. A-frikin-men! Yesterday I watched a grown man cry because his insurance refused to cover the medicine keeping him alive. And there was nothing I could do. I nearly cried myself.

[@Kropothead]

I’ve been in a can’t-get-psychiatric-care holding pattern all year. I got raging agoraphobia that they seem to expect me to bootstrap myself out of. Got insurance, but with all the stress antivaxxers have put on the state’s medical infrastructure, people like me are falling through the cracks. This system is thoroughly broken.

[@Kropothead]

Also, your cat is pretty and good.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Murica the great! Where your entire lifes work can easily all get wasted on your medical bills because fuck you that's why lol.

[@SkycometAnimeVamp]

@@Kropothead thanks her name is Elsa.

[@SkycometAnimeVamp]

@Anew Divinhell I tried everything I could. I can’t steal medication. The hands of healthcare workers are often tied. Unless the patient is in immediate danger, there is little we can do in the US.

[@RandomPerson-eh7mn]

Doyle talking about if words trigger you that’s a product of propaganda while he uses words like woke to do exactly that

[@seraphonica]

I love the fact that John sees psiops behind every tree and bush, but when he sees rainbow capitalism, he thinks "Those goddamn woke industrialists!"

[@ToxicAudri]

really reminds me of the "reds under the beds" propaganda, commies could be anywhere! OH NOOOOOOO!

[@Capt.DanInJapan]

You know, every time I hear John speak, I'm reminded of a quote from Good Will Hunting. When Sean speaks to Will about the cruel analysis of his painting, he says "I stayed up half the night thinking about it. And then, something occurred to me and I fell into a deep, peaceful sleep. I haven't thought of you since. Want to know what occurred to me? You're just a kid. You haven't the slightest idea of what you're talking about." Different context, same vibes. Doyle doesn't have the intelligence, either emotional or intellectual, to understand the things he discusses. Nor does he have the life experience necessary to place that knowledge into context.

[@rangeraero]

47:13 "Here we are, living under increasing amounts of authoritarianism, exisiting basically as a tinderbox of 330 million people who feel isolated, depressed and without purpose, but we're told that we should just ignore that because we have access to cooler and cheaper products now..." I feel like he's so close to getting the point, and then he veers off to the right and misses the target completely.

[@Kropothead]

That’s right wing populism. You flirt with class consciousness long enough to acknowledge systemic issues, but then you do a 180 and blame it on the Jews.

[@ToxicAudri]

It's almost like he's paid to be wrong, because hey, he gets supported by people who agree with his incorrect conclusions.

[@FrozEnbyWolf150]

This was Trump's entire 2016 campaign. Pay lip service to issues affecting the working class, in order to sell his neo-fascist policies. This is why it sometimes appears as though the alt-right will superficially agree with the left when it comes to identifying social and economic problems, but it's only to push for an ethnostate.

[@Ever_J13]

His whole KZbin career has been exactly that

[@fatcat1414]

That's right wing radicalization in general. Anyone can observe problems in the world around us, but it's hard to put the mental effort into blaming the system as a whole for the problems, because that doesn't give you a clear target for your anger. So instead of blaming the game, a person will blame other players that are conveniently unlike them (feminists, immigrants, the poor, etc)

[@feralguyver]

John is equal parts telling on himself, projection, idiocy, and psychosis.

[@andrescrespo2514]

Just so conservatives know, WWII ended well before civil rights were instated. So if you’re going to keep on drawing from that well, have I got news for you.

[@MrMaximumAustin]

Sometimes Doyle sounds like a Metal Gear villain, I swear.

[@ManticTRIGGER]

Except poorly written lol

[@MrMaximumAustin]

Agreed.

[@Kristen70364]

Ok, but the fact that you said "boiled peanuts" as "bawled peanuts". *Spot on* 🤌🏻

[@FrozEnbyWolf150]

John is afraid to go back to school, because the last time someone stuck his head in a toilet and flushed, the rest of him went down the drain too.

[@vxicepickxv]

But Republicans check off 14 characteristics of 2 different lists for fascism.

[@fullmetaldumbass9564]

Every single John Doyle video is "I'M VERY MAD ABOUT THESE PEOPLE I MADE UP!"

[@marygem]

Causing your OWN problems

[@SplotPublishing]

Slightly wrong here on the mac and cheese history. To clarify, MANY people in the US were already aware of, and making, macaroni in various froms, having imported it from Europe LONG before Washington. Many of them did add various cheeses. Washington's chef POPULARIZED it, because Washington was, you know, George Washington. But he wasn't the first to make it, and macaroni was already a popular dish, and macaroni with various cheeses and cheese sauces were all the rage in Europe, and therefore could not have avoided being imported to America. I HATE that people have to warp history to respond to previous historical inaccuracies. Yes, his chef played an important part in popularizing it in the US. But it was here when we were still a colony. You don't have to go from one extreme to another. You don't have to exaggerate his importance in this matter, to recognize his role. Now, apply that to every argument the left makes in reply to the right's pig headedness about race, and we'll finally make some progress in setting history straight.

[@octosalias5785]

"I believe in freedom and thats why we have to stop people from doing what they want"

[@uriahhammock3731]

You read my mind, transition takes time and patience

[@vxicepickxv]

Unions would be key to overnight communism. Technically anarcho-syndiclism would be it.

[@deathdealer312]

You would have to enforce it, and that will never happen overnight

[@Blobcraft13]

Complains about mega corps, has a tesla sticker on laptop

[@ToxicAudri]

Always hypocrisy with these conservative types.

[@walexander8378]

Trying the "right populism" angle. Seems to work pretty well so why not. At this point you almost have to admit there's a problem somewhere but it can't be systemic so you need an angle. Which is fine, it's just baby steps for them and it's pretty annoying.

[@Almost_a_hero]

Guarantee john has or will make a video about "woke" Elon Musk

[@ogredandy]

Ok 10 bucks says this time next year John Doyle will have gone full nazbol. I’m hoping he never finds out who Caleb maupin is lol

[@EmperorPylades]

John, John, just come out and say it. We know you want to say "Blood and Soil"

[@NieroshaiTheSable]

Isn't it funny how he repeatedly, unironically, defends the motivations of villains in the name of his "values?"

[@christophergreen6595]

Well... I've never seen anyone confused and angry at the mere NOTION of wanderlust. Thats a new experience. Thanks Jon!

[@theshamanite]

I think it'd be rly funny to go into the comments section on John Doyle's videos and write "As a communist, I can agree with most of what he's saying." and watch conflicted people fluster about it in the replies XD

[@theveganwujeeta]

*Do it!*

[@ridjenite]

Doyle is only upset that Capitalism is hurting him now, and not the people he wants hurt. That's all. He's just upset he isn't one of the "strong."

[@ridjenite]

Also, at the 43:30 mark, he goes pretty fucking mask off there, and damn near goes JQ.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

johnny's such a poseur. Bet dollars to doughnuts that gun back there was only fired once, if it's been fired at all by him. Can you imagine this dweeb actually going out to shoot targets, or, god forbid, sit in the cold wilderness for hours on end trying to shoot an animal? It's probably his dad's that he borrows for his set, come to think of it

[@josh-oo]

I bet it's not even a real gun.

[@ToxicAudri]

@@josh-oo Either a prop, or an antique that he invested into with the intent to resell if and when things finally fall apart. Sorta like Milo's throne he had to sell before he became a "Born again christian" with his latest new grift.

[@josh-oo]

@@ToxicAudri My money's on it being a prop.

[@ToxicAudri]

@@josh-oo Same, It looks too nice and clean to be a real WWII era gun.

[@FrozEnbyWolf150]

When the cameras are off, John likes to put the gun between his thighs and wave it around.

[@rckli]

Capital is just how we organize our transactions Capitalism as “the pursuit of capital” can be ended if the capital wouldn’t have so much power over people. Capitalism as a way of managing finances isn’t inherently bad as long as it isn’t left unchecked What he keeps saying is we need to take the current financial system and adjust it so people who have a lot can’t use it to hold people hostage: whether it’s toilet paper or fucking hand sanitizer. Like goddamn how is this hard to get It’s just coz people hear “capitalism” and they think what they wanna hear rather than learning what the words reference within the sentences they’re being said - CONTEXT Like wow - keep your dolleridoos- use bottle caps - it doesn’t matter: if there’s no regulatory power protecting those who don’t have wealth, those who DO have wealth will abuse it to maintain their status by stepping over the poors

[@ToxicAudri]

Small businesses enviably become big businesses and thus the cycle repeats. The main issue with capitalism is the incentive structure, there's no incentive to do the right thing, because it's more costly to do the right thing, paying people living wages means less profits for the owner class.

[@davehoyle9865]

I assume you mean “inevitably” because I don’t see how envy applies to this discussion. And you are so far off base here. Market can inevitably grow but there is absolutely no reason a small business will become a big business. A food truck owner, restaurant owner, boutique inn/tavern/bed and breakfast owner, local hardware/retail store owners, artisans and artists, gallery owners. These are all examples business that can theoretically expand into larger business with capital investors but in practice are more likely to grow only within their means. In a system where all standard of living need are de-commodified, there would be no need to “pay a livable wage” because all wages would disposable income.

[@ToxicAudri]

@@davehoyle9865 "no reason a small business will become a big business" What is the point of owning or starting a business? To make money. And how do you make a business make more money? You grow and expand it. A business is a machine designed to generate money for the owner of that business, this is done by operating at a profit, or in other words cutting costs to keep more of what you take in, this allows a business to grow and expand and provides the ability to make more and more money for the owner of that business. You sound like one of those "Free market" capitalists, which always ignore the fact that the free market never remains free when monopolies exist, the goal of a businesses owner is to create a monopoly, that way they can dictate the prices of the goods or services they sell to the consumer, such as in the case with pharma, oil, coal, food, seed, etc, patients help company's create monopolies, and working with rival companies helps to create effective monopolies that skirt the laws in the US that deal with monopolies, agreeing to set their prices at the same costs prevents undercutting, and because it's often very costly to even set up and maintain the infrastructure to provide a service, such as with cable, phone, or fiber optic, it limits who can compete with the already established giants. A "A food truck owner" can expand their business by buying more food trucks and hiring people, or franchise, a "restaurant owner" can franchise, " boutique inn/tavern/bed and breakfast owner" can buy more property and open new locations, "local hardware/retail" Again same issues as before, they don't have to remain local as they can franchise out or purchase property to create new store locations. "artisans and artists, gallery owners" artisans and artists can merchandise and expand their business by selling more crap to their followers, by continuing to build up "their brand" gallery owners just buy more art and more expensive art to sell to ever wealthier clientele. "These are all examples business that can theoretically expand into larger business with capital investors but in practice are more likely to grow only within their means." Grow within their means, that's the fucking point, over time that means expands and you get a bigger and bigger business. You aren't making the point you think you are. "In a system where all standard of living need are de-commodified, there would be no need to “pay a livable wage” because all wages would disposable income." Yes that's the point, however that also means it cuts into profits for many businesses that rely on the commodification of such things, which is why it's resisted. Thus the incentive structure of capitalism puts profits over people.

[@davehoyle9865]

@@ToxicAudri I don’t think you understand my point at all. I believe in market socialism. I’m saying there are plenty of business owners that are in business for an interest outside of making money. Your insults towards me only show you don’t understand the idea that come people want to participate in commerce to expand their freedom. Do you not think luxury items should be commodified? Restaurants? Hair salons? Videos games? Sex? Drugs? Art? You don’t seem to understand that with Universal Housing, Healthcare, Utilities, basic Nutrition, would eliminate the need to exploit employees, so there would be no exploitation from small business owners in wages because all wages would be expendable.

[@davehoyle9865]

@@ToxicAudri your first assumption is just wrong. Most people that start a small business is not to make money, it is to share their passion or something they enjoy. When I go into my FLGS to run D&D and I purchase my paints and minis from the store, I do it because the owner wants to provide a safe place to game with knowledgeable staff to assist you. I want that business to grow within their means so I have more places to play TTRPGs and provide more/better products.

[@stingernick]

I have a jock strap with a rainbow waistband and I'm bi. But I guess John would count me as gay.

[@LexDicksonEverything]

John Doyle is one of the saddest, most pathetic people in existence. He's angry at shit he just made up himself, and doesn't seem to understand really quite basic and fundamental things. Truly tragic.

[@TheComander5]

At a glance I genuinely thought that his beard was drawn on for a moment

[@bruhmoment1936]

john sure says a lot of words stringed together!

[@walexander8378]

Makes him thirsty for spit a lot

[@lemurlime39]

Hearing him stumble about what epistemology and metaphysics is physically hurt me

[@kamakozy13]

My biggest issue with your retorts of John Doyle is that you exposed yourself as a Pistons fan. We have learned long ago to pretend the Lions and Pistons do not exist

[@jscythe74]

And that's why anarchy is better than socialism. Socialism is a policy, anarchism is an action. You can't do socialism without the state, but you're always free to do an anarchy.

[@NieroshaiTheSable]

Is anarchy a means or an end to you?

[@jscythe74]

@@NieroshaiTheSable Anarchy is both. You cannot have anarchy unless you engage in it. By that same token, anarchy is an ideal that you must always be striving towards. Fundamentally, anarchy is simply the desire to not be lead by others and to interact with society as an equal rather than a subordinate. We all engage in anarchy, to one degree or another, every single day.

[@tatiana4050]

Hitler as Times magazine man of the year, was not as a positive thing. But many of his ideas were inspired by usa, like eugenics.

[@cuttlefist]

What did John’s friend who travels more than he does do to piss him off? That was such a targeted rant.

[@red_hobbit3323]

JFC John! Who hurt you?!

[@horacioelconserjeopina3956]

58:28 guess that the summer of love was just tik tok dances lol

[@orinjayce]

Irony, thy name is Doyle.

[@JobboFett]

"God I just simply cannot understand all these people given to commercialism! Anyways, please buy my Heck Off Commie Merchandise please, my family is dying (in a war to cleanse the state of non-fascists)."

[@Nekulturny]

1:10:24 what utter stupidity did I just hear? John... you're not even wrong. Jesus H. Christ , I need a stiff drink after hearing that utter nonsense.

[@lugus9261]

What about our off problems?

[@seniorlegumes2073]

Oh, the tears in this comment section quench my thrist!

[@seniorlegumes2073]

@@HydraulicHydra9 We love to see it

[@lukeamar6262]

Many have been saying this!

[@BlondeEyes7]

“Soros, is that you?” 🤣 Perfect!

[@oplu45]

I hate it when I cause my on problems.

[@happyraver1958]

That "Heck off commie" thing... I once went to Reddit and to this cesspool of hate and abuse, it led me to leave Reddit altogether because the toxicity of that group of weirdos was unbearable to me.

[@coltsfan354]

John is just so weird. He gets the questions that come from the problems we have and then just goes full Sideshow Bob with rakes and just hits every possible wrong answer. I honestly think he could end up like Hunter Avalone, but I don't think he could ever be intellectually inquisitive enough to question the decade of bullshit he was taught.

[@ToxicAudri]

It's almost like he knows what the right answer is, but because it doesn't serve his ambitious goals of becoming wealthy, he purposefully gets it wrong. Lets face the facts, he's paid to be wrong.

[@politiqueen420]

At this point, because of his affiliation to Fuentes, I don't think there is a good ending for jonno boi anymore. He has made himself practically unhirable. So whether or not he believes the shit he's saying, he has to keep the grift going just for survival.

[@smithblack5945]

@@politiqueen420 he could turn himself around and repent, but that would take a lot of humility. Humility, which I don't think he's willing to display.

[@Almost_a_hero]

Except Hunter was a neo con. John is basically a nazi apart from name.

[@missstella8398]

You are awesome lol I can't wait for your debate with Destiny . I watch you both so this should be good.

[@politiqueen420]

Destiny? That's a girl's name.

[@missstella8398]

@@politiqueen420 hahaha you are so funny

[@LupisRex]

Jake mixing up corporatism (fascism) and corporatocracy (corporate oligarchy) bothers me

[@SweaterWearingaTree]

The equation analogy is really bad. He says it's like trying to solve an equation with incorrect values, but like how do you put incorrect values into an equation? Equations are literally just mathematical patterns you plug values into and get a value out of.

[@Focusedfelix]

Did this man just say 'seperation of church and state was to protect the church'? Read a book homie.

[@thrillhouse4151]

Those weapons in the back are so whack, they don’t scare me. Hastily purchased from the ole army surplus downtown, most likely unloved by the dude that used them, sitting in mothballs for decades just to be props in some crappy video. Jake’s +2 morningstar or whatever it’s called is way scarier, it’s not even tied to anything it’s just sitting there, waiting, shining and whispering to me telepathically in some unknown language, filling my heart with dread.

[@mercedeswalt6621]

Does anyone have any good book recommendations on Capitalism and it’s failings and what systems may be better? Preferably on kindle and for dum dums? I’m kinda realizing how little I understand the issues, but I really want to.

[@CalebTibster]

The mother moniker, or the Momiker

[@dakotastevens8]

Jake check out Umberto Eco's 14 characteristics of fascism(1995) and Laurence Britt's 14 characteristics of fascism(2003)

[@nielsjensen4185]

One argument against incentivization. Some places in the US did that. It had little to no effect. It has nothing to do with daddy issues at this point. It's a subconscious belief to other people that they're superior. However, absolute definitions always contain their opposite in order to have meaning. The concept of joy is meaningless if there's no concept of sorrow, etc. This means that while they subconsciously see themselves as superior they also subconsciously see everyone else as inferior and the superior have no need to ever listen to the inferior.

[@ultimaweapon991]

Here before the title was changed from "Causing Your On Problems With John Doyle" gang

[@jakeherington7237]

What is Actual Jakes real job?

[@domenicgalata1470]

As someone from outside the bubble of the US, when I hear what gets termed as woke by these lunatics, it is consistently what I classify as “ civilized “ or “ modern era progressive social evolution “ but I guess I don’t have my fear centres firing at all times and can understand the concept and it’s nuance.

[@domenicgalata1470]

What’s the over / under on how long before John Doyle is involved in an all male love triangle that ends in a murder / suicide ? 31/2 years ? Six ?

[@brandonrathbone3690]

"And then, mama, what if sin actually existed?" *sigh* this kid.

[@Τ́ξτ]

Jonm doyl

[@BojackHex]

Jahm Duhl

[@Kropothead]

Germ Dowel

[@nootnik]

The truth is people used to agree with me not John. In my day the Pharaohs and God kings ruled us and gave us our values. We solved medical problems with trepanning, bloodletting and exorcism not all this fancy "science and medicine." John would be the weirdo.

[@shenyathewelder9695]

“Everyone is _____” “That just means nobody is!” Stupidest argument I’ve ever heard. Human Worth at least 3.50 Breathing Going to shit, soon.

[@MalformedNPC]

Corporations put on a rainbow shirt and he thinks it's no longer capitalism.

[@pitterpatter7719]

Actualjake actually getting in on them Turkish money laundering bitties

[@BlackEpyon]

Dafuq is he talking about? His entire rant is just one long non-sequiter.

[@merbst]

Dopes!!

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Your own *got eeem*

[@lugus9261]

4:00 unironic maoism coming from doyle

[@CrenVerdis]

@ ~23:09 All European (Countries) are exactly the same? Oh yeah, Jake?! Then I guess every American state is exactly the same! Sincerely, A Yuropeen.

[@pasielo7267]

Own*

[@matthewprescott4944]

"Individualism is ruining America." "I'm not for collectivism, I want my privacy, my own land, and to be left alone." hmmmmmmmmmmmm lol

[@matthewprescott4944]

@Kiwi Balls If that's what makes sense to you, go off. But stating this multiple times doesn't make it a thing. He also espouses religion which has lead to hundreds of millions of deaths. Call it what it is. He doesn't want to have to share in a greater community unless it's EXACTLY the same as what he wants. He wants his own little unit that he can control their belief structure because he's afraid of them being exposed to ideals that conflict with his own, and them choosing that over him. And the reason for that? Is because his belief structure places him squarely at the top. A position he wouldn't have to earn or prove he's worthy of or even really have to be effective at. Because merit based things? Like the love, respect, and adoration of a family that you'd have to earn? Scares the shit out of him. It's the world that incels build because changing themselves and growing as a person? Too hard.

[@matthewprescott4944]

@Kiwi Balls hahahaha ahhh, you're one of those idiot hordies. I gotcha. You don't know me or anything about me. So you don't know who you're trying to "take the country back" from, even. You just know you're mad and impotent. It's cool though man. Keep watching the corn boy and maybe you'll be able to bridge the gap to understanding more than what people like John fucking Doyle's myopic viewpoint is and the greater world at large's and how it all actually works.

[@matthewprescott4944]

@Kiwi Balls That would be the disagreement, yeah. I've watched a great deal of his content at this point and applied the filter that makes his ideals make sense. I responded with the lens I've used based on how this dude has acted over the years, you called it bullshit without really saying why it is or without even thinking if it's applicable or not. You then immediately responded by then saying you would like to take your country back from someone you don't know and you've merely had one disagreement with on the internet that you did not try to bridge the gap, or discuss further to come to an understanding or see if this is a person whose ideas for America truly differ much from yours or not. So...yeah. You're a person who got big mad that someone doesn't agree with your ....thought leader?(shudder) and felt the need to go on the attack instead of ask questions lol. Pretty mad impotent idiot horde energy, bro.

[@TheMaxRandall]

I tried to watch just to see if there was anything to learn from someone who obviously has nothing in common with my views. Had a good laugh at the point where he mentioned the triggering mechanism of certain words on the socially engineered mind. Otherwise I wasted 28 minutes of my life.

[@JennFaeAge]

Has John basically made a career out of talking almost exclusively on topics he doesn't understand or am I imagining that?

[@argonianbum]

Girl, you better fix that title

[@nzephier]

Did you mean to type "causing your -on- problems?"

[@camerabox1]

i think he meant "your OWN problems"

[@comradequestion4206]

The easiest way to argue for communism is an argument for the application of political democracy to the economy. That starts with things like workplace democracy. I am not sure without that strong basis of labor organization that even modest pro labor policy could be passed through the government. I also find it funny that Jake can't seem to realize that his position of "decommodification" is just as repulsive to the average American as any allusion to socialism or workplace democracy. FFS we hate Unions here, the most basic form of workers rights.

[@UrMom-xc6wc]

Why are you so obsessed with him?

[@politiqueen420]

exactly the sort of comment I'd expect from a John Doyle subscriber.

[@Almost_a_hero]

Well someone's gotta do it

[@tacittempo9778]

Hour and a half and you say practically nothing of value

[@cesaralvesdemoraes3187]

This the chad vaush channel