Centaurworld - Woman and Nowhere King's Reunion

[@pandabanaan9208]

It's kinda messed up how the nowhere king basically just said "I'll forgive you if you kill me.", it's not very often that you see a villain asking to be killed

[@ztslovebird]

It’s also interesting that, even if she COULD kill him, she couldn’t kill him. Rider stabs him ten minutes later and she might as well have done nothing. And in the finale when Becky Apples kicks the General off the cliff & the Nowhere King has the over-the-top explosion before flying down after him, both were still alive. Super messed up, but still breathing. If one dies, both die, but if one lives, both live. Which is why the Elk survived to become a giant black mass of radiation and self-loathing instead of dying from radiation sickness ages ago.

[@calamitysangfroid2407]

@@ztslovebird Pretty sure the only way for them to die was to first reform, then any injuries they have catch up to them (which would have instant killed them because the Elk's basically a radiation corpse). Maybe the staff had the power to summon the General and fuse him with NWK? Knowing his true identity, NWK understands the staff's power better than anyone, so he either intended to die or knew the staff would do something else. Maybe fuse the woman to him. Who knows.

[@It_sSophiaUwU]

It can also be interpreted as an abuser that's blaming his victim, which is also pretty screwed up

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@It_sSophiaUwU well he did blame her for becoming who he was (even tho it was his toxic assumption to think she would've cared about him being a centaur or whatever)

[@ArtoriasB]

Also the pure gaslighting of the scene. "You made me what I am" what he is was a result of his own choices, but he put the burden of blame on the Woman because of *his* feelings for her, then "It's okay, I forgive you" as if she was the one who did something wrong

[@megalize6353]

I love how woman always hesitates to kill his elk part, but has no problem pushing General of a Cliff later on.

[@SP3CTR0L1T3]

She remembers the elk she freed, locked in a cell for 10 years, hardly able to move. He's an eldritch monster now, but after being tortured so much, it's no wonder he lost his mind. The General is the asshole that did the torturing, he can get bent.

[@ethanschenck9714]

@@SP3CTR0L1T3 Plus the fact that he tried to tell her on the spot that he allowed all that destruction and death for her, which pushed her over the edge.

[@manumo2113]

I think general kills way too easy the people, and they love him he is for sure a sociopath

[@envysart797]

The General was the one who lied to her about his existence and kept him imprisoned to maintain that lie.

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

The elk was the victim, the human was the villian... its easier to kill the villian then victim.

[@TheEccentricJester]

It's like she's trying to comfort herself by singing her wedding song. Yet it only makes things worse.

[@seanharp2844]

The best part is that the NWK is also reciting his part of the vows. Either they took what was used here and make it a song in season two OR they had planned the song already and planted the dialog here to make a satisfying plot twist I'm would not be surprised if it was the the second option xD

[@cassidyb.3531]

@@seanharp2844 Most likely they had it planned, as in "Nothing Good" she also recites her vows. "Love is a spark, cast into water, love is a blaze" compared to "Love is a spark, loves' an ever-growing blaze"

[@bibby659]

That's because she remembers how fake of a wedding, and all the memories there after truly were, and what they could have been had the evil not taken the human body, instead of all the good put in the elks body.

[@silvercheetah92]

He’s called the Nowhere King because he’s technically married to a queen but he’s not really the ruler so he’s the king of nowhere. Also the lines the woman says are like the lyrics she and the general sang at their wedding. And now she walks toward him with the key like a bride with a bouquet Edit: also TNK says he never stopped thinking of her and the General said he’d never stop thinking of her at the wedding

[@nathancaldwell5443]

It's actually for a much more somber and bitter reason, but I won't spoil anything.

[@OldTimeyDragon]

Also, he says he belongs nowhere.

[@lucient.m.8453]

So he's called The Nowhere King because his wife is an NFT?

[@danniefarrow8214]

Plus the song based on the nowhere king corruption of his elk counterpart part has a point of belonging to "nowhere" considering the only place he truly does belong is back in his human counterpart from origins of being a centaur... But being split but still one in the same he is currently The "King" of "Nowhere" until they re-Fuse themselves otherwise their elk counterpart doesn't see himself mattering if he might Aswell not even be there on either plane of existence if he's not "Whole"... Also was it just me or did it seem like a Wechuge (don't know if that's spelled Right) situation/consequence for splitting themselves into halves? I mean it seemed REALLY accurate to the making of a Wechuge beast!

[@dandyspacedandy]

wouldn't he be a consort since he doesnt come from royal blood? idk how this works actually

[@amyjeanc5398]

"And if you should hurt me, I'll always forgive you" is a line from their wedding song. And the Nowhere King bows his head, actually accepting his fate and says "I forgive you." Although it wasn't her fault of course that he became a monster, he very easily justified placing some blame on her in his mind and body.

[@citationsloth]

I thinks we think so linearly about blaim and fault Can’t a thing be to blaim without having fault ?

[@mr.misfit9514]

​@@citationslothfuckin'... What?

[@citationsloth]

@@mr.misfit9514 see you have issues even considering it But let me give an example If I buy a car Brand new But it has a defect that’s unavoidable at current tech levels And the car falls apart The company is still to blame They are responsible But they made no mistake They did no wrong It’s not really their fault it happened because the issues is inherent Given still think they are at fault in the legal sense They aren’t at fault in the sense of they did something wrong Get what i mean Yes I know companies can be trash but here I’m creating a specific example just to give an idea If she didn’t do what she did he would not exist , but it’s not her fault he did what he did it’s his own It’s his fault But she was a crucial part of the cause But yet she had a crucial role to play Essentially this is like the fringe manslaughter cases in real life where a person actions directly lead to someone’s death So they did it They are the reason someone died but you can’t really Blame them since it was not reasonable for them to know

[@SinfulContent]

@@citationsloth he was replying to your sentence being barely understandable not asking for examples lol. edit exists you can.. make it more easily readable. Even I am not quite sure what 'cant a think be to blaim without having fault?' means..

[@SinfulContent]

@@citationsloth it's sad how your first thought and sentence is "see you have issues even considering it" no.. humans in general will have issues reading it man. You where clearly drunk or something when you originally typed it. Just edit it or respond like a normal person.

[@rulamantic]

It's legit amazing to see this scene with the knowledge of Season2 The fact she mumbles her vows from when she married the general, the fact TNK continued to go on and on about how he missed her and forgave her, the fact she ALMOST kills him the way she does S2, but refrains realizing this was once a Centaur she loved UGH this show was amazing-

[@andusz5518]

note that The Nowhere King's lines saying "I never stopped thinking about you", "I forgive you" and "You have come to set me free" are all of the General's lines receiving the wedding vows. "I swear I will never stop thinking about you You have come to set me free (love is a spark) And if you should hurt me I'll always forgive you (love is an ever-growing blaze) You are a part of me (I will never part from you) "

[@frootsnacc6790]

Her turning the key into its staff form really hits different when you realize she was reciting her wedding vows

[@StarryOak76]

I love how this scene reinforces that while the Elk may have been the better of the two between him and the General, he’s still equally unable to accept the consequences of his own actions; he says that he forgives her for making him who he is, as if she had any hand in his transformation at all, instead of being a constant stream of bad decisions corrupting him into a monster, clearly it’s fault... that she didn’t... what, exactly? What could she have done to prevent this outcome? What part of this was in any way her fault?

[@paperbag0018]

She did nothing wrong, she always showed the Elk/nowhere king that she loved him for who he was and it was him who was incapable of accepting Himself. The women even risked her life to set him free from the General and attempted to keep the guards at bay. Initially I didn’t understand why the Elk blamed her (it wasn’t only because he couldn’t accept the consequences of his actions although that’s part of the reason) and why he thought she didn’t wanted him even after everything she did and went through for him. It wasn’t until I heard *Elk tour. pt 1* that I understood his reasoning (even if he was completely on the wrong) The women just saved him form imprisonments and was risking her life in order to save his life, is just that the Elk didn’t saw it that way because of the way she phrased some things: *Woman:* Oh, look at the trouble you’ve caused This door You should not have come through What did you do? What did you do? *Elk:* _What did I do? What did I do? Why, I waited for you_ *Woman:* I shouldn’t be here *Elk:* And now you’ve come to set me free I always knew that you’d return to me *Woman:* The torch fires, the footsteps The soldiers are coming through They’re coming for you They’re hunting you *Elk:* Well, let them come through then *Woman:* But you know What they will do with you *Elk:* I do *Woman:* You do So go and run away now _Don’t wait for me_ The women was just trying to save Elk’s life but the way some phrases were spoken by her seemed a little harsh (I understand why though, they had found themselves on an horrible situation) It wasn’t what has happened, but The Elk probably viewed that interaction as a rejection from the Lady, the way some of her lines were phrased and probably the fact that she had to go back to the castle in order to subdue the situation was most likely interpreted by the Elk as the Women choosing the General over him. His character and story are a real tragedy, the women always loved him just the way he was (and she always showed him how much he meant to her) and it was The elk/Nowhere king own self hatred which prevented them from being truly happy together.

[@vermilion6966]

well... I was watching it here and there and I have a question for her, why the fck would she just up and leave after releasing him from the cell? Saying something like dont wait for me. Yeah I know that youre gonna say she tried to stop his other half's men but like. That was a fcked up decision. The right thing to do was to confront him right away about his stupid ass decision, whoop his ass and make him whole again, then whoop his ass again. Not to mention leaving the elk half alone like this is just yikes.

[@aspiringscientificjournali1505]

I think he means everything he did he did for her The fault does not matter I think you don’t realize the power women have over driven men The smarter we are the more clever we work to be The more it shows we want them to accept us And the dumber our actions to gain that acceptance She is 100% the reason he is that way But this does not mean she has any fault for his actions Do you not hate a home wrecker who didn’t know she was a home wrecker The wives usually hate them just as much then many forgive them for a fault that is not theirs to have Also thank you for the main theme of a short story imma write now It’s gonna be how a society based around Blaim finds its hard to parse when involvement does not decent guilt You can be the reason but not at fault

[@Tadaokomai]

Elk has clearly lost his mind entirely Trapped in a dungeon alone for 10 years alone and before he felt and still felt he was completely alone with nowhere to belong Then transforming into that by side effect of creating Minotaurs and being trapped in a void for years So yeah He has a lot of issues he should really talk to therapists and in his elk form hugs LOTS OF HUGS

[@ztslovebird]

She clearly liked the Elktaur as he was before, she didn’t want or ask him to change. And like The Little Mermaid, the Elktaur had issues of self-worth, body dysmorphia, and just not wanting to be in Centaurworld long before he met her. The guy needed therapy, not a splicing procedure.

[@Shadowpool71]

The fact that they are essentially repeating their wedding vows to each other just tears me apart TToTT "Once shattered, now whole, once whole now united, once united now eternal". "She has come to set me free" mirroring the General's "You have come to set me free" and Elk's "Why, I waited for you and now you've come to set me free. I always knew that you'd return to me". Even the Woman's position of holding the Key is like a bouquet. THE SYMBOLISMMMMM

[@sims1279]

It's kind of amazing how the main characters aren't actually the heroes. We simply see the story through their eyes, and the real hero (or heroine) is the woman the entire time.

[@zk2741]

To be fair they are heroes too

[@stellargamer4852]

Remember when we thought he was just her horse.

[@someidiotnamedtricks6397]

2 years past but.... honestly that'd probably be just as terrifying if they tried explaining how he went from a simple horse to THAT

[@bookishnewt8468]

1:33 Zulius is me anytime there’s a hint of a shared backstory between two characters

[@zk2741]

agree

[@decidueyezealot8611]

Facts

[@SP3CTR0L1T3]

Cinematic parallels - Horse's adventure began with the Artifact/Key activating when she fell off a cliff, and the war ended with the General and the Nowhere King being pushed off a cliff.

[@MadameTamma]

I love what a foil TNK is to horse. A big part of Horse's journey was learning to accept herself for what she's become and having the courage to face the human she loves, not entirely sure if she'll be accepted. Meanwhile TNK ran from who he was and couldn't muster up the courage to even ask the human he loved to accept him for who he was.

[@vanndymaywho1910]

I wasn’t interested in this show before, but the Nowhere King is a character I adore for how evil he is but also how tragic he can be. The way he effects the world and how others effect him as individual is something I love about characters writing, especially in villains.

[@morganmiller41]

I love how they defeated him. I just saw Ranking of Kings and Grimoire of Zero. Steven Universe and other kids show do it as well. They completely forgive the villain even though they selfishly started a war and killed people. The ending was a breath of fresh air.

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@morganmiller41 Yeah Steven Universe became the first show I loved and then completely disliked for how often and how far it'd go to forgiving its villains. Like cmon. White Diamonds and the others alike have literally committed genocide but the so-called heroes basically have a buddy buddy relationship with them. it's actually disturbing tbh

[@morganmiller41]

@@papasscooperiaworker3649 That's why I wish Rose was never Pink Diamond. They should of went with foreshadowing of the trial that Yellow and White killed her. Or brought in Sneople since they come part the gem stones to computers.

[@Mediados]

Honestly I had a hard time starting to like this show. The first few episodes I thought about turning it off more than once, I can appreciate a lot of weirdness but that was another level. I am glad I stuck with it until ot got really good.

[@Strawtebby]

The way she says her vows and hold the key like a bouquet

[@wynnefox]

I remember watching this for the first time thinking she is just chanting some sort of banishing spell... Second time though it's like, "fuck... Those are her wedding vows. She is trying to strengthen herself."

[@nyaoyaoya1374]

This scene basically reenactment of their wedding IT PAIN YET SO GOOD

[@envysart797]

Even after years locked in the void, he still blames her for his own decision to split himself in two, and the actions of his other half. The same lack of self awareness and inability to change which lead him to this point still rule him.

[@Fourtytwo4242]

He does not blame her for splitting him, he blames her for rejecting him, when she broke him out instead of helping him and trying to find way to rejoin him, she left him in the forest, alone and lost, which slowly drove him mad, which in a way, only made the general proven right, at least in his mind.

[@shadenox8164]

@@Fourtytwo4242 Which is still bullshit.

[@peteralexandergraae2830]

He blames himself and forgives her for killing him. He says he never stopped thinking about her, that he never stopped loving her. And he wants it all to be over

[@davedarkstalker4650]

When the TNK says "She's...She's here..." for a spit second he sounds a little bit how he sounded before he corrupted himself as if there's a part of him that isn't totally evil

[@jollygirl94]

It’s like he’s saying, she finally come to me, I want to see her and she’s here. He’s a little excited to see her, but also accepted his execution fate. Which is kinda sad like a child that wants something so bad he finally got to see before he go.

[@considerablycrocodilian1518]

Is nobody going to mention the overlapping Elk voice as he says 'I forgive you' not the Nowhere King's raspy drawl, but the smooth ''I forgive you"

[@TRTMN-vs3ew]

Interesting how The Princess could bring herself to kill the General but not the Elk. It's almost like she knew the Elk, prior to his transformation into the monstrous Nowhere King, was the better half of the two. Honestly, I would kill the General over the Nowhere King any day.

[@annafowdy]

I don't know if there was a better half, but you do have a point. The Elk was a victim before becoming a monster. The General, however, let his pride and fear take over from the very beginning and made that first move.

[@TRTMN-vs3ew]

@@annafowdy Exactly. Though I do wish she had fulfilled the Nowhere King's silent request to end his existence. For me, this sort of implied she didn't want to kill him because doing so would also kill the man she thought she loved. IDK. Stuff like this is complicated. Then again, complicated could be a cover for stupid or dumb.

[@mcglubbinfishworth3370]

You don’t get it. Their lack of confidence doomed them from the start. While outside they’re different, they are internally identical and share the same views and would have done the same given the chance.

[@matthewboyd68]

“Realism induced horror” The nowhere king is a fantastical monster reminiscent of a dragon from a fairy tale The general feels REAL.

[@TheNowhereKing]

I know that I may regret it, but I believe that the Nowhere King and the Woman had much more feelings than the General and her. The shot where he blocks his legs, I can’t explain what exactly is wrong with her , but I doubt that he wanted to kill her.

[@badgermcwaffles4834]

I love how this song she sings here is also the song they song during their wedding.... gawd that is heartbreaking for her

[@Pink-Computer]

you know you're special when _The Nowhere King_ kneels in front of you asking you to kill him

[@chrisrose9317]

The way she tries to ground herself by reciting her wedding vows like a mantra. Gripping the key like her bouquet. She's trying to dissociate hard for what she's gonna have to do.

[@lmaChroma]

The fact that she says her wedding vows

[@andusz5518]

Once shattered, now whole Once whole, now united Once united, now eternal I swear I will never stop thinking about you You have come to set me free (love is a spark) And if you should hurt me I'll always forgive you (love is an ever-growing blaze) You are a part of me (I will never part from you) Once shattered, now whole (she was meant to be mine) Once whole, now united Once united, now eternal (and my love for her runs eternal) And with this ring, I pledge (my love, I pledge) Never to leave your side Even through hardship and darkness and pain From you, I won't hide Once shattered, now whole Once whole, now united Once united, now eternal

[@alexisdominey6487]

If I ever get married I want either this or the vows from Cirpse Bride or a mixture of the two.

[@Alterego912]

Spoiler Her chanting being her wedding vows makes this… insane.

[@speedybean9570]

You really see how toxic he is when he blames her for his own decisions

[@ariadnefrolich7243]

I know right?! "You made me what I am." No dude, you did this to yourself.

[@plagueboi2861]

@@ariadnefrolich7243 Literally.

[@Gooberwares]

She didn’t make you what you are !! YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF!!

[@206Zelda]

The series was okay. Flawed, but it was okay; the only reason I stayed invested was the Nowhere King, and according to the season shown later, it doesn't fit correctly for him to tell Princess Lavender "You made me what I am". If TNK forgot Elk's memories, then it definitely makes sense that his perversional love for her warped his perspective and he believed his blind devotion towards her makes her the source of what he chose to do as the first step towards the Nowhere King. I don't feel satisfied writing him off as "crazy" when clearly he is calculating, murderous and thoughtful; he was never just an animal.

[@fanficlover]

Ten years in a dungeon to then thinking that combining people with animals was a good idea. His elk version clearly lost a few marbles over the decade.

[@deadlight88]

"I'm not whole. I cannot be whole and I have no place in either world.. but if Others don't fit in..I can have a place to Belong" -Elk

[@SilverFireworks]

I interpreted it as TNK blaming his love for the princess for his creation and suffering, and therefore, blaming her.

[@Loreboar0]

Same! He won’t accept his own actions, and so his love for her makes it all her fault in his eyes

[@Mondkirkk]

Just realised they were basically repeating their vows like the ones on the marriage with the general

[@aerialgod01]

Ironically he should have listened himself and morphed back when elk and the general had their talk.

[@cryptwinters8886]

I mean, he wanted to merge back But the general decided he didn't wanna lose everything he had and decided he wanted to drown his elk counterpart-

[@horrorhorse8909]

I mean, imagine if you could remove everything you didn't like about yourself, but it became another person. You get the life you've always wanted, the girl of your dreams, and then it comes to you saying we've got to get back together. Everything you hated about yourself, threatening to undo your life. That's why the general is so cruel to the elk, because it's himself. Who can hate you more then yourself

[@dandyspacedandy]

can we talk about how woman is so edgy and depressed that not even centaurworld could make her hair poofy?

[@kirtemoon529]

I feel so bad for the two of them. Feel like if Elktaur’s conscience went to The General when he split, things would be different. The Nowhere King created the Minotaurs so he could have friends and family, but it failed… I noticed that when she tries to kill him, The Woman can’t do it because she’s looking at *The Elk* and not The Nowhere King when he bows down.

[@mightyradish9672]

You misunderstood elktaur then. There was no chance of the human half ending up with a conscience because he got everything he wanted. They had the same conscience, thoughts and memories and the same loathing of their animal half, the elk was just stuck with the bad roll of the dice and his human half rejected him further. Without recombining, there was never any hope for them

[@kirtemoon529]

@@mightyradish9672 that’s the entire conflict of the Elktaur: as a whole he hated himself for not being human, as he believed he wouldn’t be loved by The Princess if he wasn’t. When he became a human, he felt/knew that having his animal half around it would get in the way. The difference between the halves is they had different *parts* of Elktaur’s personality. The General is generally (pun intended lmfao) more egotistical than his counterpart, while The Elk/Knowhere King has been known to hold more of a grudge.

[@kawaiiemolga]

​@@kirtemoon529The General is egotistical because he got to be what the Elktaur wanted, a human, while the Elk was the part he hated, which is why the General treated him so bad, he couldn't kill the Elk, but he did awful things to him. There's no way things would've been different, the human part would aways hate the elk part and be desperate to not be the elktaur again

[@eotwkdp]

I’m assuming the nowhere king form form is also extremely painful for it. So it utter amazing he’s still able to talk through a painful existence.

[@66Roses]

I interpret this as about half TNK unwilling to accept responsibility for his own actions, and half intentionally goading her into killing him. She was the object of his affection which galvanized his desire to become human. _That_ made him what he is, and her involvement was only incidental. I think on some level, TNK knows this, based on how the remaining fragment of the Elk talks to Horse at the end of the series. Yet, he also badly wants to die, and placing all the blame on the princess is likely to make her want to kill him more. I think that informs the way he speaks here just as much as his refusal to accept blame.

[@Shiftshapercat]

It always takes 2 to tango. She WAS blameless until she learned of what happened to the Elk. She is definitely intelligent enough to put two and two together. Elktaur is at fault when he lied to the princess about who he is after he literally changed himself by separating himself into one being spllit into two entities. She is at fault when she didn't do anything when she learned the truth of the General then lied to herself for years unwilling to prove what she knew. She has the additional responsibility of being one of the Rulers of the kingdom and failed her people when she allowed the General to go to war. So no, the source of the blame isn't the mental "poison" the general spoke to her, but her own weakness ultimately. Therefore, they both share most of the same blame. I would have forgiven that stanza near the ending if the writers of the show made it clear she spent the rest of her life trying to make amends to her people or what is left of them. But instead, "The powerful main character woman in a position power has to be blameless or else we will be considered misogynistic to our writer buddies in hollywood"

[@66Roses]

@@Shiftshapercat Right... well I'm going to assume my interpretation holds water. Not all that interested in woke mob conspiracies.

[@Sovreign071]

*SPOILER* The Nowhere King has FOUR character entries in tvtropes. It's actually a bit mind boggling to read!

[@Autistic_Menace00]

Once shattered now whole once whole now united once united now eternal I swear I will never stop thinking about you love is a spark you have come to set me free and if you should hurt me love is an ever growing blaze I’ll always forgive you you are a part of me I will never part from you once shattered now whole once whole now united once united now eternal and with this ring my love I pledge never to leave your side even through hardship and darkness and pain from you I won’t hide

[@idunnoguess6482]

YO WTF I JUST REALIZED THE NOWHERE KING IS SAYING THE GENERAL'S PARTS OF THEIR WEDDING SONG BUT IN DIFFERENT ORDER "Shes come to set me free" "i never stopped thinking of you" "i forgive you" WTF IS WRONG WITH THE WRITERS I LOVE THSI REFERENCE WTF AAAAGGH IT HURTS

[@ГерманМак-д4ы]

0:39 the fact that Nowhere King would just kill them all if The Woman didn't appear.

[@lotusgal313]

They say we do crazy things for love but to start a multiverse war just to hide a literally split personality?! That’s a lot!!!

[@ryanhernandez5632]

The queens only crime is loving the elktar to much to end both his halfs lives sooner. All she did wrong was love these two so much she blamed herself for being blind to what they had done till it was to late.

[@murmurcub]

I hate how stiff she sounds reciting her vows (No, not like "ugh I hate it", it's more like "god, this is so fucked up")

[@CountessD]

Okay, watching this scene after having seen the end of season 2… boy, u toxic. I always wondered if the lyrics “… I am now ready to silence all of this poison you fed me. Thinking I’d never grow wise” were a little harsh but nope. He just blamed HER and put the responsibility of fixing things/ killing him on her. She deserved so much better.

[@mentallyillfangirl1621]

It's just a kids show The kids show: 0:26

[@JupiMeow]

If you haven't seen season 2 finale yet, DON'T READ THE COMMENTS HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE SPOILERS

[@CalciumSnorter]

“ You made me what i am. “ Tf she did not 😭💀

[@Nobody-xu3oe]

I hate how much critisim this show gets for being as goofy as it advertises. No one treats it like what it is: A whismical and silly adventure with bonus of genuinely interesting plot and characters with pretty well flushed out backstories. I would of loved it if it went on longer to explore the characters more, but it still did amazingly well at telling a great story.

[@cutie48371]

Wamawink was just about to watch her whole family get murdered again...jesus

[@leopardprintzebras2790]

‘You made me what I am’ BITCH NO SHE DIDN’T

[@zk2741]

maybe he means the being trapped in the void

[@Phantom17685]

@@zk2741 No, he's simply gaslighting her, because he can't accept that all of it is his fault.

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

It's..a bit deeper than that. He was obsessed with her from the moment he saw her, she liked him, never hid the fact, but he was so full of self-doubt that he internalized that she'd never like him as a centaur, to the point where he was willing to change, completely nonsensically, in order to "get her to like him" something he didn't need to do in the first place. All of the doubt was in his own head. He believed what he wanted to believe, not what was true. Years and years of internalizing something eventually makes you believe that is the truth. Him saying "you made me what I am" could be his twisted way of saying "if I'd never met you, this wouldn't have happened" It's not correct and it's certainly not healthy. But it's more than him just "blaming" her for what happened to him.

[@benjaminmacpherson1336]

The NWK was definitely the better of the two halves though I'm not saying he's good, at least not anymore. He was willing to let her end him without resistance and forgives her (even though she wasn't at fault). If the general was in this situation he wouldn't do the same, he would sacrifice everything for her or rather to be with her. Everything except himself.

[@BlueColorsin]

I think what he meant by 'forgive' is that he would forgive her for ending him

[@mauser98kar]

The way Nowhere King betray his selfish nature is so masterfully done. His voices trembles when he says: "She's... She's here."; and in hindsight its easy to get why it does. But what he says next put emphasis on his character: "She's come to set me free". After their last meeting its just so foolish of Nowhere King to think she's there to help him. Yet that's the level of his egotism - he just can't reach any other conclusion. Because deep down he does not want to - he wants it all to revolve around him and not the other way. No wonder the Woman did what she did at the end.

[@ZillaTheTegu]

If only the characters didnt look and act so damn goofy, this would be an amazing show. Its like a combination of a 5 year olds bad drawing, and a rated R cosmic horror movie.

[@graphitepants6522]

I find the goofiness kinda fun, but it would be cool to see that version too

[@Nobody-xu3oe]

Having seen the ending to this all (no major spoilers) but it is messed up how he claims "you made me what I am" when literally no she did not. Everything about how he is, was entirely his own doing. All she did was breathe. Legitimately. She existed and wasn't centaur-phobic. Her only crimes/contribution to him being how he is. He did everything else.

[@candyblackgarden]

Her only crime was killing that ladybug 😭

[@davyjones3755]

Anyone know the theme at the end when his eyes open?

[@umeinui]

After seeing the ending of season 2 jeeeeeeez. Did one of my friends call in somewhere and pitch a story idea for a villian because I swear this is EXACTLY my ex. He would do all this fucked up shit which was clearly corrupting him, and not helping the relationship, on top of putting strain on all my other connections. I spent so much time explaining to friends and family his toxic behavior.... and after I had had enough, got depressed (not cleaning the room/eating alot, etc) we finally separated, not by my own doing entirely but relocating for my job helped me plan my escape. And it wasn't until we had a really toxic phone call where i finally decided to deal the final blow to the relationship. I got tired of the whole "Im doing messed up things to please you even though you told me you wouldn't want this, but rather I be myself. But I think this is what you want so Im doing it regardless of how you and others feel but now, OH SHEETZ Im so messed up because of how I chose to show myself to you. But I forgive you" HELL NO. If anyone should be saying that its ME. And I dont forgive you. "Quiet. I am ready to silence, all of this poison you fed me, thinking I'd never grow wise" That part of the last lullaby had me bawling like a baby, not from the memory, but from the realization I really did get free and I never once celebrated or truly felt the release until watching the final interactions between MW and Elktaur. While I feel many people might be turned off from the art style, the musical aspect or dang even just rainbows (and end up never watching), I'll never forget the short rollercoaster ride this show took me on

[@RebelShardAleph]

I'm reading all these comments with people saying both the General and the NWK were equally evil and therefore were both the villains of the story...........Bullshit. One got to live the life he always wanted while the other was imprisoned into total isolation not once, But TWICE! And why was he imprisoned? Because the General didn't want him to tell the truth to the woman they loved. So he was trapped alone in a box for 10 years because he TRIED to do the right thing. Then, when he was freed the woman he loved cast him out. leaving a scarred and traumatized victim to fend for himself in a cruel , cold world. Don't get me wrong. Did the NWK Do bad things? Oh absolutely. But Out of the two. Which one was 100% okay with letting Lavender kill them? The NWK. he was the ElkTaur's conscious but it was defiled by neglect and anger. Because the first thing he does when he sees the woman he loves is offer his head to her. He knew he did evil. He knew that the only right thing to do was to die for his crimes. The NWK's body slowly became as defiled as his mind but his integrity remained firm as he did not even try to hide what he was. Because he wouldn't lie to anyone, even himself. So he prepared to pay for his sins with grace and dignity. Now lets compare him to the General. Who lied, killed, betrayed, all to keep himself alive for as long as possible. He ran away from the consequences of his actions. Buried them. locked them away. All while trying to fake a happy life he in no way deserved. He knew that all he had to do to end the war, to end all the suffering and death was kill himself. And he decided that his own life was worth more than everyone else's. More then the civilians, more than his soldiers, more than his friends, The only one whose's life mattered was his own. Which is why he tossed his sword away and ran away screaming like the coward he truly was when Lavender Came for him. To enanct the Justice he long since tried to escape from. He bore the guise of a man but he was the true monster. For all the pain started with him and if he had his way, it would never end with him. Both did bad things but one was evil because he chose to be, while the second was just a victim of the first who after so much abuse, trauma, and undeserved suffering was now lashing out against the world that abandoned them. So No, the General is the true villain of the story and the NoWhere King was just the Skeleton in the General's Closet who was so powerful that the General couldn't keep him hidden. After all, One was just a pathetic General, While the other was a Mighty King!

[@Creepystalker102]

If he had fallen for a female elk instead of a female human, it probably would have gone down exactly the same way but with the positions reversed. The general was more “evil” because he’s the half that got everything he wanted and also had motivation to protect it. Of course the imprisoned half-dead eldrich abomination wants to die, but that doesn’t say anything remarkable about his character

[@氣Pluh]

I did not read the title and fr thought this was toh 💀

[@rajivgeerman2064]

The most wonderful story I've seen .. beats the hell out of all Disney stories

[@fernandomanzanero528]

Ya recuerdo, el tipo, esa cebra tiene la misma voz y el tipo de animación que tuvo FINAL SPACE

[@franciscosotovillegas4480]

¿Qué personaje?

[@fernandomanzanero528]

@@franciscosotovillegas4480 ya sabes el alien verde que luego se descubrió que su especie se reproducía a si misma y hasta en la última temporada tuvo un hijo.

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

"I'll forgive you" is the most evil line the Nowhere King says in the show, I'm not kidding.

[@guanimos1638]

Got the body type of a wasp and that gave me chills cus i hate wasps

[@melancholicechosingstothemoon]

The Nowhere King just wanted to rest and give her peace Elk was probably the one giving her a chance to finish him before the darkness took over again

[@Channelwip]

At first, I thought the Nowhere King sensed that she wouldn't bring herself to kill him until I heard the backstory He was asking to be put out of his misery

[@meredithchandler73]

I keep trying to find a compilation of just the Mysterious Woman’s scenes and/or songs but I can’t find any. Any chance you could make one? Huge Lea Salonga fan here! I would be so grateful!

[@Captain_Jelly]

I still can't tell if this is meant to be a kids show or not every time I get a video of it in my feed

[@charliehall1944]

She is here 2 set you free she is here 2 destroy

[@thehellrunner4117]

Nowhere King is actually mad that she didn't kill him and end this tragedy.

[@charliehall1944]

Life go now wama wink no 😢😢😢😢😢😬

[@paytonkraft7564]

TNK was the victim, The general was the monster.

[@ExcelHedge]

He's a victim turned Monster... And his greatest abuser was himself...

[@paperbag0018]

He was his own worst energy and he turned himself into a monster The General is himself after all.

[@meepbeep2029]

The guy who actively led armies to kill thousands of innocents. Oh poor him.

[@YB-sm4we]

The woman was the victim here, tbh

[@paytonkraft7564]

@@meepbeep2029 Yes, yes, I know he killed thousands and became a monster. I wonder how he got that way.

[@cheeky4743]

tbf even with how the show went I hate how they made the nowhere king so...Human. It made him so much less threatening. He was sorta like the lich, originally. A force of nature that did as it pleased and made all hope die out once it appeared.

[@WerezerRoo]

The saying I always come back 🦌🦌🦌🦌👻👻👻

[@charliehall1944]

Posted by Charlie hall # once shaterd now hole once hole now United

[@asquarededits9261]

Haha, gravity…

[@charliehall1944]

Wama wink get your freinds and 🐎and rider out now run with all of your alls life now

[@erikakselrod362]

How is it the woman's fault that she made him who he is today? No wonder he's evil

[@garyscott4441]

What is this show?

[@samiam2003]

centaurworld

[@msk-qp6fn]

How does she have anything to do with what he has become? Like dude it was your choice to split yourself 🙈

[@93Chowo]

Exactly. But I guess after his corruption he really believes that this is the reason because they made it out of "love". The same goes for the General, he imprisoned the elk, lied to his wife because he thought it was the right thing to do.

[@Akeche]

Sparing an eldritch abomination yet killing a man is... Foolish.

[@-Commit-arson-]

Breaking news Furry lady murders two people who were originally one person

[@charliehall1944]

🐎rider no let them all go now you monster posted by 🐱Charlie hall # 🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@charliehall1944]

Let them all go now you ,you grotest monster that songs sound familiar no shes not haere 2 set you free shes haer 2 kill ☠ kill that frosted baest now what whait you can't kill him ow the elk 🦌

[@charliehall1944]

You ' you protest monster you are posted by 🐱 Charlie hall💕 # what why you can't kill him he is part of your past you must move on now get out all of 👉 and 👉2 🐎and rider now run with all of your alls now

[@aelurus]

The most interesting characters that received the least screen time... pityful

[@charliehall1944]

Get out thare now nowww

[@Goremejy]

The characters look so goofy and idiotic it completely drains any sort of tension or drama when they show up on screen. Shame

[@IamMeHere2See]

TNK is really the only reason I bothered with this show. It is otherwise too weird for me, but I love how twisted, evil, & pathetically human it is.

[@elchicodelasdonas1]

This is the reason why you should not send a woman to do a man's work........... come one at a time 😎

[@Creepystalker102]

Please watch the show and realize men are the cause of all the biggest problems here