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@Kg3634 жыл бұрын
The CETME LC have one hell of an aesthetic. I need one.
@samuthgrunch30614 жыл бұрын
I have herpes you can have that if you'd like
@dawsongranger49404 жыл бұрын
Kevin Gregory it has that generic bad guy assault rifle look. All the detailed lines and big sights
@darthtyranus3784 жыл бұрын
take a look at the FN FNC
@PMVoid4 жыл бұрын
*Then buy one*
@justinvzu014 жыл бұрын
@@IkesThePyro With Galil mixed in.
@charles_wipman4 жыл бұрын
Well.. that's an LC... we used 'em few; only for do door guards and naval exercises, vessel boarding and that kind of stuff, the three that i'd held felt heavyer than my CETME L, i also felt better with the cheek againist the bakelite stock of the L than againist the LC wires stock, i didn't liked it. Also, that flash hider was the standard on the 98% of the CETME Ls of the Tercio Norte of the Royal Spanish Marine Infantry only the 1st serie CETMEs had that three lugs flash hider that you've in your L, the normal thing on my Tercio was the one on your LC, i think it was the 3rd serie/batch; the sights are the same one than on the L, but on the shooting range we only did 50m 100m and 200m with 'em, while with the L we did from 50m to 400m. The LCs that we had were much more realiable than the Ls, using the same mags and ammo, when we had an stopage with the LCs it used to be the mag; they were less used and less beaten, they still in few number on the inventory of the Armada, the CNP (Cuerpo Nacional de Policía = the cops) and the Guardia Civíl, and thankfully they'd gave few use to 'em too.
@davidv7764 жыл бұрын
I had more or less the same experience. You can read my comment. I do aggree with your explanation. One question about your experience. ¿What about the LV? I didn't mention the Ameli, but to my knowledge taken from people of my environment that had the chance to use it... Was the worst expression of the CETME system. Cheers.
@charles_wipman4 жыл бұрын
@@davidv776 We had some Amelies, was so bad that we only get to see it on the 'Teóricas de armamento', to tell us that it exists, how it was and how to feed it, disassembly and assemble it; we only used the MG3, we had 3 LVs on my company, one was used by my 1st corporal but without the SUSAT, just the weights, i'd seen a couple of jams on it too, but was a mags thing in his opinion; i don't have a personal experience with the LV, only with the L & LC.
@SurfingBullDog4 жыл бұрын
Damn, this guy had been around!
@CtrlAltRetreat4 жыл бұрын
Did you think the reason the LCs were more reliable than the Ls was due to less wear and tear? Or was the design just more reliable? I'd think the same action with the original barrel and stock should be workable for standardization if so.
@charles_wipman4 жыл бұрын
@@CtrlAltRetreat Imo (i'm not a weapons expert in any way [i'm a fuckin' punk]) it was because the guns (the springs and all that) was less used/abused than the Ls, the failures that i'd seen on the LCs was mainly because of the magazine condition or leak of cleaning, but mainly because the magazine spring or walls condition.
@pkre7074 жыл бұрын
"and it's got all the original parts which, I think, is pretty cool" Ian flexing HARD
@iLLeag7e4 жыл бұрын
Flaunt it if you got it!
@LOUDcarBOMB4 жыл бұрын
8:49 3 oz (ounces) = 85 g 9:02 8.75 lb = 3.96 kg 9:13 8.50 lb = 3.85 kg For those wondering
@borismuller864 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@jjforcebreaker4 жыл бұрын
using imperial should be a federal offense. Just get rid of it!
@LOUDcarBOMB4 жыл бұрын
Just for some more fun, here's some conversions in stone and slug format. 3 oz = 0.013 stone and ~0.006 slug 8.75 lb = 0.625 stone and 0.271 slug 8.50 lb = 0.607 stone and 0.264 slug
@alexanderm35044 жыл бұрын
You know something about cocaine
@PapaSchultz744 жыл бұрын
@@Rozmic 2
@quatro_quatro4 жыл бұрын
That's a damn fine looking carbine!
@ImmaculateM1Garand4 жыл бұрын
Man, I’m with ya! Sleek, potent, for a purpose. Modernists would say “not modular”, but, fuck ‘em ya can’t please errbody.
@quatro_quatro4 жыл бұрын
Kalishnikov Stoner owner Ya heaaaarme?
@kevinschultz60914 жыл бұрын
I agree - for me, a good part of it is that the stock looks sturdy, despite being collapsible.
@quatro_quatro4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Schultz Yeah it‘s like the MP5‘s yoked up brother!
@ruangermishuys61274 жыл бұрын
Honestly, one of the best looking rifles I've ever seen. I like that style of stock. Reminds me of the Q honey badger.
@tritonum4 жыл бұрын
Hello Ian! Spanish guy here, my old man did mandatory military service with the CETME L. Back then, guys said CETME stands for 'Cada Esquina Tiene Mierda Escondida', meaning 'Every corner has hidden shit' , because apparently they hated cleaning the thing lol.
@chadblechinger57462 ай бұрын
Sir, your father may have very well inspired my new motto because here in Merica, every corner does indeed have hidden shit.
@aqui1ifer4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that a 12.5” barrel, 5.56 chambered CETME or HK roller-delay carbine would be my dream gun, lo and behold, here it is!
@dbmail5454 жыл бұрын
You should read Jung on "synchronisity"
@exploatores4 жыл бұрын
I have had a AK4 in the military. that cured me of any need to have one. the AK4 is more or less a licensbuild H&K G3
@exploatores4 жыл бұрын
@@SonsOfLorgar Ok then we have experience of the same carbines. I have a maybe a half a inch to short arms for the lenght of pull on it, the point of balance is to far away for me to reach. with the aimpoint sight it was a bit better. then it was kind of posible to aim in low light conditions. I don´t remember how many times the rolers got stuck. Give me a AK5(a) and I think I still would be able to take it a part. and put it together. with a ok time. with a ak4 I am happy if i only have to have one try. to put it together.
@magoid4 жыл бұрын
4:23 The full version has a dual stage spring, while the carbine has not. Please take a note if it makes a difference while shooting.
@magoid4 жыл бұрын
@@zaitcev0 I was wondering about that. I saw they also used a soft (rubber?) material on the back inside the cap, so I thought they used that for end of the travel of the bolt carrier.
@tfwthelsdkicksin60833 жыл бұрын
Dual stage spring?
@tarjei994 жыл бұрын
Now, that brings back unplesant memories of cleaning an AG3 (HK G3) year after year.
@lanehamilton52284 жыл бұрын
Any tips for new owners?
@bugdrvr4 жыл бұрын
@@lanehamilton5228 Wear latex gloves or your hands will be completely covered in soot. Lots of towels and don't touch anything that you don't want filthy. I was thinking of just spraying it down with simple green and hosing it off out in the back yard next time I feel like cleaning the thing.
@tarjei994 жыл бұрын
Some used hot water to clean it. Then drying before applying oil. Others immersed it in oil.
@Thrashgu4 жыл бұрын
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age.
@TexasSpectre4 жыл бұрын
No, that's the FAL.
@tychothefriendlymonolith4 жыл бұрын
Much less clumsy or random as a Hi Point...
@samuthgrunch30614 жыл бұрын
end this meme rightly please
@Solvernia4 жыл бұрын
1. Spanish gun 2. Elegant Pick one
@amogus72774 жыл бұрын
@@Solvernia bruh you don't have to do us like that
@RCZM644 жыл бұрын
Earlier flash hiders were all the open, three-proged type. Since it gave trouble moving in brush areas, the closed one was adopted. You can find all CETME versions with both types. Open ones early on, and closed "bird-cage" after being introduced (no exact dates, probably, since exhausting older flash hiders in stock). You can also find later flash hiders in earlier rifles refitted or repaired.
@dalejmobiledalej63614 жыл бұрын
I had a chance to talk to a Spanish veteran who served with CETME L. Ian talked in another video about reliability and other issues, Spanish knew about those, he told me army mechanics worked wonders tuning them to be reliable rifles. So at least some units could to have properly prepared guns ready for action.
@Choo-ew9so4 жыл бұрын
I have both the MCM L and LC and love them...excellent guns. MCM fixed the short coming of the originals. Mine both shoot flawlessly. I'm pondering on applying for an SBR stamp for my LC, that shorter barrel looks awesome.
@peraire4 жыл бұрын
¡cuántos recuerdos! CETME (Centro de Estudios Técnicos de Materiales Especiales). Mr. McCollum instructing and teaching us day by day. Thank you.
@friedrichjaeger3674 жыл бұрын
Gun Jesus hath blessed us with yet another gun sermon, praise be onto Him
@TheWolfsnack4 жыл бұрын
but..beware the Karl Mud Inquisition!
@ScottKenny19784 жыл бұрын
(I was going to like, but it's currently at 69)
@cercaz4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfsnack CETME L not worried already been through it
@benamini57014 жыл бұрын
I want this beautiful piece in video games.
@austin_bennett4 жыл бұрын
Definitely, this would look cool in a game
@thealandude91464 жыл бұрын
I definitely am gonna add this to my games
@Orbis-Factor4 жыл бұрын
Go outside!
@blackore644 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it's kind of in a hard spot. It's not Modern enough to be in games set in modern day, and not old enough to be set in historical ones. And only used by Spain.
@robertsaget69184 жыл бұрын
Ian with the changes to the recoil spring, is the felt/perceived recoil different between the two rifles?
@ForgottenWeapons4 жыл бұрын
We will cover that tomorrow...
@ES1976-34 жыл бұрын
Ooo so exciting!
@lairdcummings90924 жыл бұрын
Cool. Rather curious about that. I was wondering if there's a notable shift in handling with the stock extended? Maybe not, with the weight of the extension bits being similar or greater than the original plastic.
@1tulip4 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons YAY!!!
@jimmystecher52144 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons I will be there with bells on, cannot wait to see this.
@Zajuts1494 жыл бұрын
I've always found the CETME L a bit "meh", but this one really speaks to me.
@alexanderm35044 жыл бұрын
Do you hear its voice??
@kevinschultz60914 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderm3504 - Yes. It sounds like Ricardo Montalban. "Real....original furniture." (Yes, I know he's Mexican-american.)
@chadblechinger57462 ай бұрын
Love love love the CETME. It was my first battle rifle( first rifle period). This is the perfect budget battle rifle ( not modern retools from century or pmc ) for entry lvl shooter. The parts kit availability is staggering, the caliber is legendary, the action is ROCK solid, the reliability is beyond serviceable, the manual of arms is short and simple. The new shooter can get the rifle,parts kit and first 1000 rounds, even mount a red dot ( mounts or lack there of is the single greatest drawback to purchasing an older/ cheaper milplus.) and still only spend around $3000 . Considering the enrty lvl cost on any other 7.62 nato platform where the rifle can cost $3000 ez. Here in Colorado they are asking about 1500 for a pmc paratrooper tooled on old milplus. That is still $1500 less than its name brand contemporary and that leaves you with $1500 to bolt on or send. The Cetme in my opinion is one of the if not the best budget battle rifle you could find that has compatibility with many variants across the European theater and in North America. The ar10s dont have the parts compatibility for bcgs. The m1a will bite the shit out of you for getting fatigued, the m1 is antiquated and -06 may be in short supply on a modern battlefield, HKs are overpriced and based on the same action with very little records indicating G3 is far superior to the Cetme that it evolved from. ❤ this rifle
@jeffie86964 жыл бұрын
Having carried a full size M16A1 through the jungle I can tell you that having a shortened version of a standard rifle would have been greatly appreciated. The M4 was not in general use at the time but I wish it had been.
@shellz55674 жыл бұрын
Wow where did you serve
@jeffie86964 жыл бұрын
@@shellz5567 I served in the Army Infantry from 81 to 85 , earned my Jungle Expert patch at Ft Sherman Panama .
@jeffie86964 жыл бұрын
@Jen farmer nothing about your statement makes sense
@robboss24314 жыл бұрын
Jen farmer that’s stupid. The m16a1s are 20 inch barrels with rifle length recoil spring. You get reliability issues when shortening it
@goforbroke4428 Жыл бұрын
@jeffie8696 army should have done what the Canadians did and put a collapsible stock on a full length m16. I’d pay for the longer 20 inch barrel when it comes to accuracy
@MrMasMola4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Spain we can’t own semi CETMEs because they are chambered in “war calibers”.
@oktayyildirim29114 жыл бұрын
Can't they just be rechambered for .223 or .222? That stinks.
@MrMasMola4 жыл бұрын
Oktay Yildirim Yes, in .222 or .307, with limited capacity mags. But you know, it’s not the same.
@oktayyildirim29114 жыл бұрын
@@MrMasMola .223 is so insanely similar to 5.56. Could they be convinced to treat them as separate calibers? They technically are...
@MrMasMola4 жыл бұрын
Oktay Yildirim Try to explain that to our politics. We have been fighting for years to change our legislation, mostly about semi automatic .308 rifles for hunting. Meanwhile, we can own .300blk, 6.8spc, 6.5 grendel... Ah, 7.62x39 is legal, they consider it a “hunting” caliber.
@oktayyildirim29114 жыл бұрын
@@MrMasMola Wow. I guess politicians from all over the world hate guns.
@ArtilleryChannel4 жыл бұрын
Glad to be able to keep learning from these videos! Keep up the great work Ian!
@Matt_The_Hugenot4 жыл бұрын
The telescoping bolt carrier and spring is a neat solution for shortening rifles that otherwise need an extension tube.
@brianwilhelm37 Жыл бұрын
Actually, although it's a slightly smaller diameter, the recoil spring is just as long as it ever was. What they did was remove the buffer spring from the recoil spring guide rod and relocate it into the receiver endcap.
@Chris-ct1qf4 жыл бұрын
1000 likes 0 dislikes THAT'S THE IAN WAY
@JulioFromBoston4 жыл бұрын
As a volleyball player, I love the name of this gun. SET ME!
It is usually said that the LCs are built to a higher standard than the regulars, so that would make them even more desirable. The ET marking on that one refers to "Army" (Ejército de Tierra). There are others that were assigned to the Guardia Civil units.
@mattfleming864 жыл бұрын
Would this configuration have "tilt" issues as the recoil spring is not in line with the cartridge?
@pedrodaguiar58654 жыл бұрын
Works fine with H&K guns.
@pedrodaguiar58654 жыл бұрын
@@civicsr2cool True. I used a 7.62 G3 in the army, a thoroughly unpleasant gun to shoot (and clean). The HK21, on the other hand, was great fun.
@gabrieleciciriello64474 жыл бұрын
i guess not,as the bolt runs on tracks anyway
@jorgec.a31234 жыл бұрын
@@pedrodaguiar5865 this isn't an H&K though
@pops556504 жыл бұрын
Pedro, I have an HK 91 with an SG1 stock /dual buffer. It’s comfortable to shoot now, but it sure does get dirty lol
@inkandesk3 жыл бұрын
This gun just looks beautiful, I love the design aesthetic
@cercaz4 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a CETME L and now this video. Sounds like I made the right choice
@marcosdiaz37734 жыл бұрын
I did my military service with one of those Good memories
@MeatbagKillaXD4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle! Thanks for showing us
@matthayward78894 жыл бұрын
Such a cool little rifle. Never knew that SBRs were exempt from the 922r law!
@alligatormonday63653 жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful rifles ever produced.
@Lumadous4 жыл бұрын
Oh if only I had the money to afford one of marcolmar's gun
@cercaz4 жыл бұрын
HMG has their CETME Ls for $999 going on now
@Lumadous4 жыл бұрын
@@cercaz still out of my financial range unfortunately, only reason I have my cetme 308 is because I got it for 175.
@elblitzb4 жыл бұрын
"Corto" perfectly pronounced. Saludos de Chile, gracias por compartir el video Ian.
@jubb19844 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the incoherent gunlaws in the US xD always entertaining :)
@JohnADoe-pg1qk4 жыл бұрын
Only if you don't have to struggle yourself through that labyrinth.
@JohnADoe-pg1qk4 жыл бұрын
@Apple Tek Support No.
@Meton127654 жыл бұрын
IMHO They're not particularly incoherent or, even badly laid out. Since Congress isn't a panel of firearms experts nor such expertise a part of it's primary function, they've assigned the task of classifying and categorizing various firearms to the ATF while setting various levels of regulation to different types of weapons and suppressors. Now, the way they do this gives large amounts of bureaucratic power and lee-way to interpret the various legal definitions of weapons to ATF bureaucrats. And since this kind of cushy sinecure deskjob is exactly what gets staffed through nepotism not competence, it will invariably lead to a internally conflicting clusterfuck full of special exceptions made based on the current political atmosphere instead of facts and the intended purpose of the weapon.
@coolsenjoyer4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnADoe-pg1qk I would take that labyrinth over what we have in most of the rest of the world
@coolsenjoyer4 жыл бұрын
@@Meton12765 pretty much only thing that US does worse than most of the world when it comes to firearms is the suppressor regulation
@Perry21864 жыл бұрын
No one expects the Spanish inquisition
@TheWolfsnack4 жыл бұрын
"our weapons are fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, fanatical devotion to the Pope, nice red uniforms...oh...and a CETME rifle
@Thrashgu4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfsnack And our men were the nightmare of the rest of Europe since the XVI to XVII century, and just with rapiers, lol.
@marionogueira62114 жыл бұрын
@@Thrashgu no hay un lugar en la tierra que un español no haya pisado
@martingardener904 жыл бұрын
I am always delighted that no matter what the subject someone always manages to weave some Monty Python into the comments - keep up the good work!
@Thrashgu4 жыл бұрын
@@marionogueira6211 Pues sí, pero los yankis se flipan y creen que ellos inventaron los ejércitos y las armas, tampoco es culpa suya, son adoctrinados en la Leyenda Negra desde críos y teniendo en cuenta que su país es una de las ex-colonias de uno de los mayores enemigos de España, ahí los tienes con la tontería de la Inquisición, cuando en Inglaterra o Alemania mataron a muchísima más gente durante muchísimo más tiempo, cuanto daño hizo Monty Python, ni siquiera tienen gracia.
@kfcwithoutafryer8794 жыл бұрын
Can't begin to say how well timed this was, I was just about to go watch all your llama/cetme videos again so I can look at these beautiful guns I'll never own.
@loupiscanis94493 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian .
@machinedragonnero77404 жыл бұрын
I definitely do like the looks of this gun and I would choose it as a secondary backup. I think the reason for it being shrunken down so much and have a collapsing stock it's definitely make tighter corners and little more maneuverable. that's my best guess anyway even though you don't really lose much weight, still seems like it's better for tight spaces.
@geodkyt2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to delete the bayonet long when you consider who they're building the gun for. PVT Snuffiego *absolutely* is going to snap a bayonet on there if the lug is present and at all accessible. At which point, he's going to swing it around, and everyone will laugh until the bayonet comes flying off (because, without the forward attachment of the muzzle ring, it isn't actually fixed) and someone loses an eye.
@Khanclansith4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could afford one of these for a reference collection
@daveh777 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful rifle. 😮🙏 Both the L and LC.
@bensmith86824 жыл бұрын
This looks like a G3 Grease Gun and a Daewoo made very vicious love and this is what came out. I love it in all its weird cheapness, and there's something amusing about using Roller Delayed in of all things, a stamped shell.
@SynthLizard83 жыл бұрын
The stock of a MP5, the reciever of a FN FAL and a barrel of a STG44.
@trgtdron4 жыл бұрын
I love my cetme G3, one of my sweetest rifles and can shoot 308 out of it all day long without shoulder fatigue. It is the 60 year old conversion with original wood grips and stock but has very little wear considering it's age and the amount of ammo I have put through it.
@chrislemoine54744 жыл бұрын
I had no idea SBR were 922(r) exempt! Thank you!
@fns584 жыл бұрын
One hell of a sexy gun. So cool to see you interested in CETMEs Ian! Regards from Spain!
@davidfarmer3 жыл бұрын
4:23 I'm sure you know the specifics of the relation between the dimensions of springs, and their rates already, but for those of you who don't, here's a few rules of thumb: Increase in spring OD= Lower spring rate Increase in wire diameter = Higher spring rate Increase in number of coils = Lower spring rate Also if you use more than one spring in a row(serially) you decrease the rate. if one of the springs bottoms out the rate increases after that point. If the spring is longer, but used in the same space as a shorter spring, your rate isn't affected, but you have a higher preload. The relation between spring OD and number of coils, and multiple springs are a bit counter intuitive. However if you think about how the spring actually works, it make sense. There is an equation that I use sometimes, I actually have a parametric model I made, so I can just plug in the numbers in fusion 360, and it scales my model to whatever dimensions you input and also gives you the rate. The most interesting thing I found after making the model is that coil springs twist as they compress, which decreases the number of coils, but increases the diameter, which allows the rate of the spring to remain constant. I believe torsion springs have a similar effect. The equation is described here: www.engineersedge.com/spring_comp_calc_k.htm
@puerkito98934 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a Forgotten Weapons video early in the morning
@ForgedHistory4 жыл бұрын
I was on holiday in Tenereffe and the airport security was armed with these
@KaDaJxClonE4 жыл бұрын
The "move the spring up and forward" was likely taken from the AK. That's been a space saving feature since it's inception.
@MrPh304 жыл бұрын
Always remwbered the instructor telling me about the AG3, always keep the gun on Safe at all times.
@CzechoslovakGunStories4 жыл бұрын
the roller delayed guns never cease to amaze me... so simple yet effective... and this one is extremely sexy on top of that :)
@hindsight20224 жыл бұрын
Coolest gun ive seen in a minute .
@JohnDoe-pv2iu4 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in you taking both rifles and doing some test firing. Let's see low-light and night firing. Then swap the flash suppressors and repeat. If that weapon turns out anything like an M16 series weapon, the prong flash suppressor will have a lot less flash! Great video. Take Care and be safe, John
@epl8034 жыл бұрын
Man that gun is good looking, like a mix of Sturmgewehr, Stoner 63A and M41 Pulse Rifle
@ragingjaguarknight864 жыл бұрын
In my experience, a heavier weapon helps mitigate recoil, whether it is a rifle or pistol. So maybe the slightly denser feel to it will mean more pleasant shooting?
@mouse4544 жыл бұрын
Steel stamp and plastirubber grips - the kind of gun the SA80 was meant to be.
@misha56704 жыл бұрын
SA80 was meant to be an AUG.
@joemama3974 жыл бұрын
Seems to resemble the MP5
@friedrichjaeger3674 жыл бұрын
Well if im not mistaken those who designed this weapon are the founders of hk
@Lumadous4 жыл бұрын
@@friedrichjaeger367 mp5 is based off the g3, which in turn is based off the cetme 308, which is the bigger brother of this
@Thrashgu4 жыл бұрын
@@friedrichjaeger367 The developers of the CETME's were a mix of german and spanish engineers so yes, you're right.
@bergkongs4 жыл бұрын
The bolt LC is even more similar to HK G3
@erozion82114 жыл бұрын
Irrelevant to this weapon and the idea behind “forgotten weapons” but wouldn’t be nice if HK could release more info on the HK 433 rifle? There is hardly any info out there about that rifle
@jmquez4 жыл бұрын
I come from a Spanish Military family, when my grandfather passed away a couple years ago, I tried to export his guns to the US where I live now (because Freedom is awesome). Sadly it was impossible to get them out of Spain, and the police destroyed them since none of us could own them legally. Yeah I’m still bitter about it
@therugburnz4 жыл бұрын
I love the way the weapon sits on the magazine. I doubt it is intended as a display feature but I appreciate the happy accident.
@GuitARPlayr1004 жыл бұрын
That LC is awesome. Definitely something that I need in my life.
@canadiangunnut4 жыл бұрын
The fore-end looks similar to Magpul fore-ends, especially on the shotguns.
@machina_spirit4 жыл бұрын
This thing has like a cool retro modern look to it. Reminds me of the rifle from the Resistance series for the PS3, which was like a modernized WW2 era rifle
@nannesoar3 жыл бұрын
I think this is my new favorite gun.
@nat0404964 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the most gorgeous looking modern carbines. I want one
@EcchiRevenge4 жыл бұрын
I like how it started looking like FNC at the front.
@radioactive98614 жыл бұрын
THIS is why I watch 'Forgotten Weapons'...I have NEVER heard of the CETME LC, until now...and, it LOOKS like one HELL of a BAD ASS weapon...now I just have to watch the video to see if it REALLY was BAD ASS, or, just LOOKED bad ass.......
@SargentoDuke3 жыл бұрын
Its actually used by spanish National Guard (Guardia Civil) but the "demostration series" that had HK style square handguard instead of the later FNC style handguard. Because demo series had no quality reductions.
@SpanishDio4 жыл бұрын
This one looking AESTHETIC AF
@andresgolfgti4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Spain !! I love when you review stuff from my country, we are not so prone to appreciate guns as you americans do! BTW, pronunciation is closer to Thet-meh than to set-mee!
@andresgolfgti4 жыл бұрын
@Alexander You are right! I forgot about that
@mitchfromtheinternet2973 жыл бұрын
It’s like someone described a G41K to someone over the phone.
@randywatson83474 жыл бұрын
It slowly grows on me.
@fredboat2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I have a the standard one, Runs good.
@fabianliske56314 жыл бұрын
Huh. Getting some strong G36/G3 vibes here, the history of the CETME and HK really can't be denied
@karlnemo86585 ай бұрын
Have the undersides of those bolt carriers been modified to allow better travel through the magazine feed lips? Looks like it.
@Toaha484 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to get a cetme L parts kit but all the kits that I see are almost the full thing without the barrel and receiver so wouldnt that not be allowed even If I got an American made barrel and receiver? (this 922(r) is stupid)
@5chr4pn3ll4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Swedish AK5, FN FNC. It would be really nice to see a video on the FNC btw :)
@MrShtbrick3 жыл бұрын
This just my opinion, but if the Spanish had removed the fixed front and rear sights and replace them with MIL-STD-1913 rail, and add mlok slots in the handguard; the Spanish would have a better rifle than the G36.
@SargentoDuke3 жыл бұрын
Spanish G36 was made on Cetme factory 🤦♂️and its based on MG36 with heavy barrel and heatsink... so is so much better than German made G36 and has no problems.
@TortillaChip5214 жыл бұрын
Where can you find Cetme Long Colt ammo during this shortage?
@cptreech4 жыл бұрын
You can see the design heritage that lead (via a twisted path) to the MP5.
@SargentoDuke3 жыл бұрын
Mp5 actually was a 9mm Cetme prototype... First HK G3's were actually made on Cetme factories like the 7,62x39 versión that Cetme made for HK trials.
@dass13334 жыл бұрын
Olympic Arms AR pistol had to do something similar. I found that out from a video from a great channel Forgotten Weapons.
@pghudd4 жыл бұрын
Collapsible stock the pop up headlights of the gun world lol
@EarthAltar4 жыл бұрын
If you've ever owned a gen 3 firebird, formula, or trans am you know how that story ends.
@Wil_Roadagain4 жыл бұрын
Now I’m just imagining a bunch of guy on a range doing the Miata wave
@KaitenKenbu4 жыл бұрын
What a good looking gun!
@spiritofthetime4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the fact that you weighed your rifle.
@allarms4 жыл бұрын
@forgottenweapons Are you 100% sure 922(r) doesn't apply to SBRs? Everything I've ever seen suggests it does. Imported MP5 pistols for example, seem to be subject to it when SBRd. Do you have something showing it doesn't, like an ATF opinion? SBRs still meet the generic definition of rifle, they just happen to also meet the NFA definition of rifle.
@ArmandKarlsen4 жыл бұрын
Ian said the sights were identical, but wouldn't they have to be graduated differently due to the shorter barrel? Or did he just mean the sight mounts?
@dbmail5454 жыл бұрын
Just the sight radius. The difference in external ballistics would only show up at ranges an SBR is not well suited for.
@Dell-ol6hb3 жыл бұрын
Such a cool looking rifle
@redjoshman4 жыл бұрын
I know there was the LV & LV/S rifles (i.e. a scoped variant of the standard CETME L), was there a scoped variant of the CETME LC rifle?
@marklewis290611 ай бұрын
God it looks so good
@jjforcebreaker4 жыл бұрын
I don't like the style of rear sight, but overall LC looks really good. Big fan of that shade of green- speaks 'I'm a working tool, no nonsense'.
@rofljohn234 жыл бұрын
Wait, so the collapsing stock only has a fully open and a fully closed position? This seems like alot of work. Designing a new, nonbackwards compatible boltcarrier for the rather minor benefit of a smaller size during transport. The shorter barrel is handy, but you said the new stock system eats up the weight savings. Could someone please be a rad lad and tell me what I am not seeing that made this a worthwhile thing to design and make? :)
@Seven-jx8vq4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@TacticalReview4 жыл бұрын
“You expect a smaller rifle to be lighter. It’s certainly handy, but not necessarily lighter.” My exact feelings about my AK-V. Love that gun, but she’s a bit porky.
@lairdcummings90924 жыл бұрын
From an engineering standpoint, I like the LC bolt carrier better; it might be a bit more difficult to machine (not entirely certain), but it's certainly more compact.
@dbmail5454 жыл бұрын
Probably a toss up. That tail piece doesn't have to be milled out so that saves one step.
@lairdcummings90924 жыл бұрын
@Jona v.K which is fitting, since the G3 family traces its history back to the CETME Modelo 58; Just keeping it all in the family.
@BeefaloBart4 жыл бұрын
Not a bad looking rifle. AR mags, and 5.56 are nice. But chop the sights off and put a rail on top. Use AK or AR grips. and a few other minor touches and that would be a keeper.