CFMOTO 450MT - The Perfect Bike For Any Adventure! IBEX 450 vs Himalyan 450

[@xkorpy3]

Honestly one if not the BEST review for the 450 MT, and I can guarantee I've watched almost all the videos out there😂. I pre-ordered mine too, it's going to be my first bike!

[@juanicofernandez]

Thank you sir 🙌🏻

[@MultiTwenty4seven]

Mo too brother. Waiting for my first bike the MT 450.

[@xkorpy3]

​@@MultiTwenty4seven Why did you choose this bike? For me, it's an all in one bike to try different riding scenarios, many features for the price and also the high second hand bike prices. I'm from Spain, and the dealership informed me that my bike should arrive around the end of May or June :_D

[@MultiTwenty4seven]

@@xkorpy3 absolutely the same thing. It looks like a good all rounder. Also the price is really good 5600€. I'm from Bulgaria btw... And the warranty is 5 years here. I pre ordered mine in Sofia Moto Expo 2 weeks ago. Waiting is till June as well.

[@xkorpy3]

In Spain it's 5990€ and dealerships are still short on info like warranty and extras😅

[@donsmith3573]

I’m impressed, good for the Chinese, massive potential in the future. I did live there for 8 years and I was always impressed by their keenness to improve, great review thanks

[@wilvpatrocinio322]

KTM transfer technology CFT

[@lawrieyoutube4375]

You have delivered a really excellent review. Thanks. I'm so glad you mentioned the on-road capabilities. The fact is, I think, that an average person looking for an 'Adventure Tourer' will spend a lot (if not most) of their time on tarmac and well-formed gravel, as well as main roads getting to places. Not to mention commuting etc. (I'm in Australia) The CFMoto website describes the 450MT as “versatile adventure touring motorcycle”. So it is not really a rally bike. I think it is so important for safety that an AV bike is capable and reliable when around road traffic. Spilling the bike amongst traffic, or having a collision is the biggest hazard for riders. I need to know 'Is it too Twitchy?' on twisties. I'm in Australia where there are long distances on tarmac between destinations. I'm so glad you also talked about what the bike is like getting around on real world obstacles that a rider might come across when out exploring. There are so many videos of thrill seeking and hard bashing on technical stuff by KZbinrs. (Look at me Mum, look at me.) For those who want to 'rip up the landscape' there are plenty of Enduros, Cross-Sport and Rally bikes. Also, thanks for discussing the seat comfort. That is really important. I am a mature returning rider looking for an all-purpose bike that's not heavy. A 450 twin seems like the sweet spot. I've subscribed. I hope one day you can find a way to assess and compare the road capabilities of dual purpose bikes for us 'normal' riders who want to explore. Best wishes and safe riding.

[@juanicofernandez]

Appreciate the kind words brother 🙌🏻

[@kevinarmstrong478]

@@lawrieyoutube4375 I agree when I did the Adventure Bike thing I wished I had a dirt bike so I could go off road. For sensible people a true adventure bike must be as small and as light as possible it must be just powerful enough to travel at highway speeds but light enough to be used off road and I think these guys may have nailed it!

[@kevinarmstrong478]

@@lawrieyoutube4375 it’s the hardest thing - like everyone else I spend most of my time on road so I buy a bigger bike with better road manners which is almost impossible to ride off road and two big expensive and heavy to make mistakes on. So the little CRF is fantastic. I would like an MT but they are heavy and may not be as good a compromise is the CRF but to get the CRF useable off road requires a lot of suspension work and a new ecu is almost mandatory making them way more exciting endive than MT which comes with everything.

[@lawrieyoutube4375]

@@kevinarmstrong478 Hi, Since my post I bought the MT. You are right, t is a fairly big boned bike and a proper adventurer size. But I have found it quite nifty and with the smaller motor low down is a lot easier to handle than the big bikes as you say. The frame/suspension/wheel configuration is very well mannered. The motor is pretty peppy but still running in so I haven't been able to give it the full beans yet. You are right, it's not a small bike. Sort of a lightweight Tenere I would say. But will handle anything I think. The worst thing so far is a very snatchy throttle at low revs, which makes riding in heavy traffic a bit of a pain having to slip the clutch all the time in 1st and 2nd. The tech and electronics are excellent. Happy riding.

[@tombombadilofficial]

Been to the recent Makina Motoshow 2024 at SMX and have tried saddling both bikes. The new Hima is very Top Heavy compared to the MT450 and I have observed this with others who have tried saddling the bikes as well. Hima is definitely for more experienced adv riders no doubt and right out of the box, would perform better of the two in real life conditions as it feels more sturdy and solidly built.

[@offroadnomad925]

Agree, and spec wise and price wise this 450mt is a no brainer.

[@MrTmax74]

Thanks for the info. Which one had higher handlebars? Or rather, which one would fit taller people better, not including the stock seat height

[@defylifeadventure]

Given it's an adventure bike, I'm surprised no-one has actually asked CF Moto what the alternator output is. Pretty useful to know for running heated gear, and running accessories.

[@MotoSly]

it's 2024. i don't think you really have to sweat about it.

[@NorthernADV]

Great review! I hope the 450MT does well and eventually comes to Canada. Hopefully it will do better than their 650 Adventura which has been pulled off the market (apparently for engine problems). The only IBEX they offer in Canada currently is the 800cc model, which is too tall and heavy for many riders.

[@Ride_XP]

Great review bro! Good insights and well-explained.

[@juanicofernandez]

Thankks broo! 🙌🏻

[@skyworx524]

I can't wait for mine to arrive. Great review

[@gromit576]

REs have proven reliability. I will wait to see you or anyone do a long term review. On paper CF is better. BTW, I watched on YT where the Indians convert the tires to tubeless for $15. The tires come tubeless compatible. Twin cyclinder on a 450 is the game changer.

[@codecifra]

the cyberpunk music during the intro and the cyberpunk design potential of this bike!

[@scottsum1319]

Nice! I wonder how this would compare directly with the Kove 450 Rally. 2 incredible Chinese entries into the Unicorn ADV segment. Keep it up

[@NoRoads2AllRoads]

They are worlds apart. They're competent different

[@theosager8087]

It appears the kove 450 rally would be the better of the two. But to your point, I agree that is a great comparison and I would love to see someone review the two side by side

[@bulthaosen1169]

One is an Enduro.

[@罗一锋]

kove best one

[@xdx2653]

from chinese brands i only trust cf moto.also they are beautiful bikes which have nothing to be jealous from famous brands. soon cf moto will rule

[@juanicofernandez]

What are you waiting for? I already pre-ordered mine! :)

[@AltitudeAerials]

Paid in full in the makina show last friday, can't wait for tomorrow to pick it up! Hopefully cf has the low fender option for purchase soon

[@aldrinmarquez7136]

Pre-ordered since march after the global launch, my dealer said shipment was moved to May but no exact date was given, quite the wait now 😂.

[@ДмитрийК-в9щ]

Оформил предзаказ,

[@podunkman2709]

This is china made product

[@kaotic2007]

Yes It's 6kg lighter than Himalayan, but need to consider Himalayan come with fuel tank protections and Central stand.

[@juanicofernandez]

This has twin cylinders, fully adjustable front, rear suspension :)

[@kaotic2007]

@@juanicofernandez sure. I am not saying it's better or worst. Just saying about the weight. If you add protection and central stand probably it will weight the same or more

[@defylifeadventure]

From the reviews and overviews so far, the Himalayan seems like the better bike for slower speed road work and off road riding. So far re the 450MT I've heard som reviews talking about harsh suspension, poor brake feel, jerky throttle. All things that have been praised on the Himalayan. You do get a lot more for your money with CF Motos. An extra cylinder for one, but more adjustable suspension, folding gear lever, adjustable levers, USBC output, and better dash. So it's a bit 6 of one and half a dozen of another.

[@kaotic2007]

@@defylifeadventure yes i read a lot of reviews, and like you said RE seem an easy and well balanced bike with really confortable suspension. Would be nice to understand if CFmoto suspension can be adjusted to really good confortable performance, i think that tyres on cfmoto are really not top quality ones, but 140/70 doesn't offer a lot of choice. I in my country RE is 1500 euro cheaper but i like the cfmoto much more, i am really trying hard to find some more positive aspects :D

[@paulkusyk8254]

​@@kaotic2007 always you can put 140/80 tire more common on market

[@VinayKumar-db4qz]

I think you should ride both the RE and CF moto 450 back to back.

[@MrTmax74]

Agreed, no one that I know of has done a real-world back-to-back comparison

[@kevskibiz]

Great review, love this bike 👊

[@3CODKing]

just a heads up too in case no one knew as i also just found this out, CFMoto has also partnered with Yamaha

[@juanicofernandez]

yup! i mentioned that in this video :)

[@ogasi1798]

the largest fuel capacity in the class is the Rieju aventura 500 - that has enough capacity to do 1000km, it is also a supremely well specced machine - heavier than the 450 mt of course

[@bullsharkdb]

You sound like a sales person bro, chill out. A good review always is a balanced one. No bike is perfect so listing the good and the bad is part of a fair and credible review. Cheers

[@ankn01]

Bro even said in comments I have pre ordered it , why u waiting.😅

[@avirupbanerjee3874]

Well, it's quite biased review.. it felt to me like he was a part of the R&D team for this bike😅. Seems like he was well paid..

[@bullsharkdb]

@@ankn01 A fair review...If you know that isnt fair would you give a like or dislike?

[@juanicofernandez]

Biased yes but definitely an honest review. I did mention that there are some minor things that I dislike or wish it had. Also, I too mentioned towards the end of the video that i had a hard time finding things I disliked about this bike.

[@bullsharkdb]

@@juanicofernandez sure 1+1=11

[@jonsmith9892]

Great video sir, how is the fuel mapping on the bike?.. better than the 800MT I am hoping... :)

[@mugeesshiekh]

Like your review.

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

I own a Versys x300, with about 90.000 km, i had never done a thorough wash to the rear shock, thing is, the rear shock was getting stuck down low, i thought it was done, i was about to replace it but i wanted to check it out, i asked my nephew for help and we took it apart, the spring was full of dry mud, so i scraped it and washed it with kerosene, we put it back just to stand on the foot pegs and well, the bike did bounce back up as normal after that. After all of this, my point is, the CFMoto 450MT comes with adjustable front and rear suspension, and they're great quality too, KYB suspension is quite a greta suspension, so they're putting expensive parts on this bike, the suspension, the tubeless spoked rims, the switchable ABS with perpetual front ABS, those are features that cost quite a bit of money all together, and this bike is barely about 1.000 USD more expensive than the Versys x300 in my country, in fact, Honda just released the Honda Saharah 300, which is a dressed up XRE 300, single cyl, no windshield, 18/21 rims, for almost 9.000 USD in Costa Rica, the Versys x300 is 8.600 USD, less expensive than a shitty single cyl! And this bike will be just shy off 10.000 USD here too, this is too much bike for the money, and i still feel they should have priced it a bit lower, because their 700cc bikes cost 9.000$ and 10.000$, same as this 450. But again! A good quality, adjustable rear shock is about 800$ or more!

[@theosager8087]

CF Moto 450 is priced at $6,500 in the US not 10K

[@itourmoto]

Nice brother!

[@cap_fearless8696]

Just Wow ♥️ launch date for India??

[@pabloitare]

🙌🏼🔥

[@christiaang]

This vs Honda NX500 would also be interesting.

[@podunkman2709]

Had oportunity to ride NX recently. This rather comfortable city bike. I would never tell it could handle offroad rides.

[@daniellee6484]

Despite its bulletproof reliability, Honda’s design is too boring for my liking 😢

[@xdx2653]

@@daniellee6484 same here.i dont like any honda bike except cb1000r

[@GarHarman]

Brilliant ❤

[@danielvolschenk3103]

What really concern me about these Chinese bikes is the fact that they push bikes into the market and then they disappear and the poor new owners sit with a product that's gone off the market, battle to get spares and can't sell because no one wants to by it for the above reasons. About 2 years ago, some Chinese Dakar rider came up with a similar bike and threaten to put Honda and KTM out of business. Never heard of that bike again.

[@klloo5689]

Check this Giga factory and the one in Mexico out. They have collaborations with KTM and Yamaha and they've been making quad bikes for a very long time. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaOzZJ6trM6Fa80&pp=ygUOY2Ztb3RvIGZhY3Rvcnk%3D

[@kevinarmstrong478]

I looked into it “ and teaming up with more than 1200 employees, CFMOTO has developed 98 vehicle models and 51 engine models, which are distributed in over 100 countries” They’ve been in Australia for decades and seem to have a pretty good reputation. I would seriously consider this bike

[@xdx2653]

i feel you bro but cf moto is a serious company.everything coming from china is a garbage???i dont think so bro.the streotypes provoked your thoughts

[@kevinarmstrong478]

@@xdx2653 yep CF Moto have been in Australia since 2005 and have sold 500 000 units so they are here to stay!

[@ekimandersom4478]

I bought the NX500 . But didn’t know about this CFmoto, I probably would have chosen the CF in hindsight. It is really an amazing bike for that price. Still happy with my honda tho

[@juanicofernandez]

Can’t go wrong with a honda

[@hondaslex]

NX500 and MT450 have a complete different DNA. Just the look is comparable. I love Honda's by the way.

[@ekimandersom4478]

@@hondaslex Well yes, for me it was between the Honda and the nee Royal Enfield Himalayan. But the RE was similar priced in Thailand. So the Honda was a no brainer, better than the RE in every way.

[@JohnRayEmmanuelRustia]

I have no question with the specs of this bike because I really like it since I saw it launched in Europe, but the future problem is that the availability of service centers in the provinces and availability of its spare parts. When I asked the sellers of the CF regarding the service centers available, they can't give me the best answer.

[@ajca69420]

Just wondering, why need Cruise Ctrl on an adv bike? Like... Oh I'm off-road, I only want to go 60kph for a relaxed ride,,, off-road... Hihi!

[@juanicofernandez]

Best of both worlds

[@MrTmax74]

Most adventure bike riders spend the majority of their miles on tarmac. And it's often their only bike. And here in the US having cruise control for our long and fast freeways is a godsend. It's a game changer.

[@sunnibird]

I really want to buy one of these

[@pearlborneo8173]

Water wading up to how many cm height?

[@migoyy10]

Ano po yung complete riding gear nyo?

[@jamesfox1514]

The age of dissing Chinese motorcycles is over. Anyone referring to Chinese manufacture as being inferior does not know much about manufacturing production. China is the heart of world manufacture, that's what they do, so they have all the tech and knowledge and after all lots of European and Japanese companies use them to manufacture their products. I personally buy their machine tools for my business and have used their laser cutting machines for about ten years. Those machines work reliably with little maintenance or servicing. There's nothing at all inferior to Chinese products unless their products are built to a price point in which case don't blame them, blame their Western distributors. I saw this IBEX in a dealership in Greece and the quality looks spot on. If it was a KTM badged bike it would be totally convincing. Its only the older generation that hang on to the cliche of 'Chinese rubbish' . These bikes will sell like hot cakes and the price point will allow a new generation to enjoy the joy of 'offroad' motorcycling. Well done on the professional and thorough bike review.

[@juanicofernandez]

At the rate their going they're going to definately dominate that motoring market

[@charliequach6399]

Yes and people don't realise this but more and more companies manufacture their vehicles in China to export to the world: Tesla, Volvo, Honda, Toyota, Mercedes, Kia/Hyundai.

[@kaptmart]

I knew CFMOTO will have a follow-up for that heavy 400MT.

[@zakhey]

There's a 400MT? I'm only aware of the 650, 700 and 800 MT's 😮

[@willyd-adv]

​@@zakheythis video is about the 450, so not sure how you didn't know it didn't exits when you are commenting on a video about it

[@zakhey]

@@willyd-adv not sure if you know how to read, but I was specifically asking about the "400MT" which martskeebstudio commented. Obviously I know this video is about the 450MT, but since mart mentioned 400MT, there's no model of it in the MT line unlike the 400GT/650GT. 🙄🙄

[@phuketbungalowinfo2757]

I REALLY whish HONDA would look at something like this and dont let us, the customers ask for something what should be absolutely NORMAL nowadays. An USB charging port is not RocketScience and costs nothing, so WHY i have to install some aftermarket stuff @HONDA???? Looks like a nice bike and i am going to sell my CB500X here in Thailand for it.

[@AarizAryan-c1d]

May I know what ia your height ? You look great 👍🏼

[@dk.650]

Still heavier than my DRZ 400 E and Dr 650. Would like to see it last as long as they do. Doubt it.

[@chrisb5986]

The himalayan is not "better" than the japanese alternatives...it is just cheaper. Don't confuse the two.

[@Matthew-wn8oq]

Wait for the 2025 , and you will get ride by wire , cruise control, quick shifter the whole nine.

[@JhayjhayGuimalan]

im confused, is this offroad bike or adventure bike?

[@xdx2653]

hmmm good question .this bike is a soft enduro bike.trust me

[@ahmetcelik204]

How many liters of gasoline does it burn per 100 km?

[@jordanpangilinan509]

only 22kmpl

[@_UserUser_]

Around 4.5l/100

[@podunkman2709]

​@@_UserUser_So like way bigger enines.

[@xdx2653]

@@_UserUser_ hmmm well 4.5l/100 isnt small number .for the CC and the HP of this bike i think its kinda big comparing to honda NX

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

There is a way to make this bike perfect and shut the mouths of every bigger YT reviewer. Leave the bike the same, but put Husqvarna branding and a badge in it, increase the price 1.200 USD and boom!! All motorcycle digital magazine reviewers will love it and put it as "The unicorn that the rest of the market refuses to make". After all, besides the CF Moto letters, it looks like a Husqvarna in its green and grey color scheme.

[@andyw237]

They are also the same exact people who worship street-only bikes that are re-badged as "adventure bikes" based on the brand name.

[@demonsync57]

Why japaneses would never build a bike like that ?

[@juanicofernandez]

Because if they really wanted tol, then it should’ve been already out ages ago

[@xdx2653]

what do you mean my brother????they do ofc this bike is a copy paste of yamaha tenere lmao

[@frs7104]

This or the KTM 390 Adventure?

[@juanicofernandez]

no contest

[@frs7104]

@@juanicofernandez In favour of the CFMoto?

[@xdx2653]

@@frs7104 i think yes

[@hondaslex]

Depends on your needs.

[@nevillegreg1]

You did not appear to compare how it rides, how it brakes, the throttle response, it's weight/feel, against the Himalayan 450. I know you attended this all expenses paid junket by CF Moto but we really want you to be up-front and honest on the comparison as a rider riding the bikes, not just the specs of what's on paper.

[@Tim-turbo-o]

450MT sells for $4,360 in China🥺🥺

[@yan6639]

For Philippine terrain, it's better to have a lighter 400cc adv bike. No brainer.

[@xdx2653]

yes but guess what my dude there are more than 220 countries out there.cf moto dont producing products only for phillippine

[@prastprast4664]

KTM with Chinese wisdom, 😊

[@itsmeee7364]

As an Indian i like this cf450 more than overrated re himalayan

[@nastyjayin]

Tatte chaat liye to wapis aaja India. 😂😂

[@davidmallia628]

Where is the honda nx500 in this argument,!??

[@podunkman2709]

NX is great bike but typical onroad, for small guys.

[@davidmallia628]

@@podunkman2709 Is not the CFmoto 450MT for small guys, too!?? But it not about big, or small, guys, as both bikes will accommodate most people. It is about how they compete in performance, capability, quality, and, ultimately, price.

[@xdx2653]

@@podunkman2709 what do you mean small guys dude??height???

[@acegear]

5'6 tip toe?

[@souryaf]

Is it Japanese or super high quality Chinese 😂😂😂

[@peterng779]

This is no all around bike as it's only 450cc. Can't get a relax and comfort driving on highway. Too weak.

[@hondaslex]

Riding a lot on highway's? Just chose a bike that fit's better for you.

[@MaddyAnand]

The Himalayan will last a decade and beyond but CFMoto is known for low quality bikes as is with Chinese craftsmanship and cunning marketing gimmicks. I’d go with the Himalayan any day. In India, nobody buys CFMotos.

[@110mano]

that is your heart speaking not mind nor knowledge

[@evosklien6184]

indian only buy redmi, vivo & oppo

[@prodiptoroychowdhury2313]

Interesting opinion. As consumers we want the best product which will last a long time, so I share your concern! Very much a valid concern as well. However I invite you to consider: people said the exact same thing about the royal Enfield. And before recently they were right. The bikes were cheaply made and overall bad motorcycles. However recently they have proven themselves with considerable change. Why not CFmoto?

[@katasiapa7645]

Sorry, but quality of CFmoto 450 is better than RE himalayan 450

[@arnoldschwarzenigga2268]

​@@katasiapa7645 Total cap dude 😂

[@podunkman2709]

450cc is siply not enough - this bike will be terribly weak. 500cc (real one not 470) would be an option. Beside of that this is china construction - I do not trust quality.

[@xdx2653]

450 cc is not enough and 500 is a option.seriously dude???both are weak.but this bike is for dirty paths.you are more than ok with 45 hp unless you think that you are enduro pro

[@sei_kein_vasall_der_USA]

This bike is too heavy for a 450 ccm. 175kg dry weight + 17,5 liter fuel.

[@defylifeadventure]

Perhaps you'd prefer the Kove 800 given the better power to weight ratio.

[@MaddyAnand]

Low quality Chinese bikes go bad in the 3rd year no matter the maintenance! All CFMoto bikes have a ton of quality issues. Beware!

[@dencelosorio3079]

Really?

[@xdx2653]

like what dude??

[@amirabdulkhan2612]

Amerikano ka ba? Why tagalog kung dito ka naman s pilipinas. Ang hangin.

[@juanicofernandez]

Mainet po ngayon sa manila

[@ganzmontejo4176]

Bakit? Di pwde? Kung tagalog lang ede peeenoise lang makaka intindi

[@aldrinmarquez7136]

@amira naka intindi ka naman grabeh 😂, kinder palang english na halos lahat subjects natin. At least kung english ang video niya maintindihan nang iba at di na need nang subtitle. Masyado kang OA dagdag kalang sa init nang panahon 😂.

[@keyzeyy1958]

bakit? nahihirapan ka ata mag english? nasapawan ka lang kaya ayaw mo eh. manahimik ka kung wala kang masabing constructive and relevant.

[@hakankaradag4819]

There is a spare parts problem for CF Moto in Türkiye

[@xdx2653]

turkey is a problematic country anyway,i dont surprising at all.

[@cool...............]

I just have Chinese trust issues, sooooo, nah.

[@xdx2653]

personally i dont trust anyone,even honda .i had many issues with honda at past .i prefer to give my money to the chinese because we must panish the japanese brands which they raise the prices every year.the same model 400 euros plus every year with zero upgrades only the colours.nobody asked me tho if i got 400 euros plus to my salary each year...

[@huseyinumitoztokatli4936]

The best video and şharp pictures and again more information ı have ever seen.....Thanks God some one tolks about it a top speed to Cf 450 mt... ..🐈🐶🦝🦔👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️ Thank you. dude...