CHAT GROWS ANXIOUS AS I LEARN ABOUT THE DENSEST CITY EVER BUILT

[@fatcat22able]

I’m starting to realize that The Vaush Pit was created as a way for Vaush to monetize his stunlocks. Nice.

[@Stonehawk]

What the kids call a "pro gamer move"

[@ajemma78]

AND I'M HERE FOR IT!

[@ilyana1126]

Im all about it. I actually really enjoy those parts of his streams

[@amellirizarry9503]

it’s always so chill, my favorite content of he’s is this channel now

[@Jackvonblood]

Pretty much.

[@somtimesieat2411]

The densest city ever made was chat’s mind

[@jessiemiller880]

Rumor is, they still haven't found the exit tunnel.

[@G0Ri11a]

I had a professor who lived in Kowloon for a period of time as a child. Her stories were fascinating from a sociological/Anthropological perspective but also horribly depressing at times.

[@musicaleuphoria8699]

Vaush definitely needs to visit Seoul, South Korea or Sudogwan area.

[@NedTesco]

@@musicaleuphoria8699 Nah the Sugondeez area is definitely better

[@JonnyOgg]

@@NedTesco what's Korea?

[@BoundlessLamb]

Yo you should go on the joe rogan podcast

[@kKing235]

@@BoundlessLamb You should go on deez nuts

[@tirthpatel1562]

I was born in inda and have lived here all my life .For those who don't understand Vaush's take, you don't even need to go into the slums, just fly to Mumbai once and when you are close to landing, you will see a literal split on the ground with gigantic patches of slums that isn't something that you would ever see in developed cities like LA. There is a huge difference in the lifestyle between the poor people in developing and developed nations.

[@shaheenshad5012]

Yeah also the richest private residential home is situated near a slum isn't it?

[@tirthpatel1562]

@@shaheenshad5012 yeah it's called Antilia, it's relatively close to the slums absolutely. Abject poverty and the most extravagant lifestyle. It's all so close that is jarring and Makes you wonder if any of the residents of Antilia have ever watched Parasite.

[@Rainkit]

I feel like the fact that most of the people in the US live in California or New York also twists chat's view on the US. Vaush knows LA. Its a very wealthy city. I come from the Midwest. My home town of St Louis is similar to what you described, with abandoned buildings and tent towns across the street from million dollar old money mansions. The wealthiest section of the city is less than a mile from the poorest. And of course I doubt I have to describe Detroit and the difference between downtown and the inner city. Given, I'm sure its not to the same level as with India, but its here. Its just easier to ignore because it affects less people.

[@normandy2501]

I doubt they will actually travel to these places any time soon regardless of any pandemic fears.

[@anonymous_4276]

I've lived both in and outside India and I have noticed that most people who haven't lived outside India don't realize just how bad things are in our country (pollution, traffic, corruption to name a few).

[@gabinator92]

Holy shit, chat was on a whole new level of talking out of their ass in this one lol

[@PhyreI3ird]

It does the heart good to see so many children interested in getting into politics though ❤️

[@PM-xu2nq]

@@PhyreI3ird Let's hope they're kids, because the thought that any significant number adults think like that is just 🙃🔫

[@cato1024]

@@PM-xu2nq it is mostly teens and young adults

[@PM-xu2nq]

@@cato1024 I know, I'm just frightened by the prospect of *any relatively significant* number of grown adults being like this. I mean, I'm a young adult, and even the fact that a decent portion of my peers have the emotionally-reactive impulsive unselfawareness in cognition that chat exhibit kinda concerns me. I mean it's not like I'm some paragon of stoicism or anything, but God, you'd think once people hit 21+ they'd be able to take a more measured approach to stuff, especially something as important and nuanced as politics. And I also get that these people exist outside of chat and would probably come across a lot better over the medium of a research paper. Still, the fact that this sloppy thinking and stubbornness can penetrate their approach to a serious topic is an uneasy thing to consider. Not to get all Lobster Man but I do think there's kinda a crisis of maturity. And I believe (unlike Mr. Lobster ) that it has material roots, i.e. restrictive job and property markets and underpaid labour mixed with a rising cost of living (plus other factors, such as online socialisation vs face-to-face) leads to more young people struggling to move on with their lives and careers at such a rate as was considered normal in previous generations. And I understand and appreciate that not everyone can or must take these steps, like moving out of your parents' house, taking on external responsibilities, etc. at the same rate and that they don't always correlate directly to maturity. This rambling goes wayyyy beyond the scope of rambling about brainworms in chat though, so I'll stop. It's just a little disappointing to see this in people who are supposed to eventually comprise the masses who'll steer us towards better politics and a better society. Maybe I'm pearl clutching a little, idk. Welp, of you've read all this you must love streams of consciousness, have a stream 🌊 and a turtle 🐢

[@avinashreji60]

@@PM-xu2nqYou do know most Right Wingers and Fascists are older people right?

[@pashlyn]

His stunlocks are becoming segments. He's growing stronger

[@henriquesoares7893]

He's adapting, far too dangerous

[@frocco7125]

We're gonna get a stunlock in a stunlock in a tangeant.

[@narikobeilschmidt]

the power of the second channel

[@ultimaweapon991]

Nothing will ever beat Hasan's stunlocks

[@houseplant8540]

What's a stunlock?

[@saniwada]

I was born and raised in Nigeria, The idea that American homeless are as bad off as the homeless in a third world country is so incredibly ignorant that I'm dumbfounded anyone thinks they are comparable. The homeless in country's like Nigeria regularly starve to death and have literally no avenues to get out of it. I'm living in Australia now and can say that id rather be homeless here in Australia than even middle class in Nigeria. Nigeria middle class are lucky to earn $50 dollars a month, yes the money goes allot further in Nigeria but in Nigeria the middle class are living in homes the same size as people in Kowloon if they live in a major city where all the jobs are.

[@Regdren]

I think the response to this in the U.S. would be that we need to make things worse for them in our country. We're trying to catch up with things like spikes under bridges, filling in other possible shelter from the elements with boulders, and of course horrible treatment from any police who might see them. However you are correct, we still have some distance to go before we can make life for the homeless as bad as in the third world. (Why are we doing this, we don't need to win an abuse of the poor competition...)

[@saniwada]

@fdfxd2 dual citizenship

[@Xeridanus]

G'day! Welcome to 'Straya! I'm in Melbourne myself but grew up in QLD.

[@emporioalnino4670]

@@Xeridanus melbourne gang rise up

[@xenoblad]

@@saniwada ah mixed race I see. One parent is already a citizen of Australia and the other married into it. Correct?

[@Nickdeal1997]

My Dad joined the Royal Hong Kong Police in the late 1960's from the UK. His first posting was as an Inspector for the Kowloon City division which incorporated the Walled city. In those days it was considered very dangerous and a hub for Triad activity. Cops would never patrol in groups of less than 3 or 4. Dad had quite a few stories from those days. In the early 80’s, my dad had achieved the rank of Superintendent and was assigned his first command, DVC (Divisional Commander) Kowloon City. Things came full circle for him and he’d agree that it was the highlight of his career. In 1984, Dad took a few of my friends and I for a tour inside. Leaky unregulated water pipes made it feel like it was raining everywhere we went. Poorly lit maze-like corridors, an open-air temple in the middle… and lots of rats. I remembered the unregulated dentists and small fish ball shops around the outside. As far as I remember he was DVC KC through its demolition in 1994.

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

No comments on THIS? Tell me more!!!

[@medjeds]

this is so cool

[@feelthepony]

we need more info, please.

[@Blackgriffonphoenixg]

Your dad needs to write a book

[@kevinjohnanand]

Americans calling Vaush "so American" for his takes on foreign slums and underdevelopment will never stop being funny. As someone who was born in India, I can say that Vaush is 100% correct in his take.

[@_extrathicc]

Yeah, like, there's a difference between acknowledging poverty and a lack of urban infraestructure and saying brown people dumb.

[@Keykatriz]

Yeah, I think chat is being totally disingenuous comparing the slums in places like India to homeless encampments in the US. The really huge difference for me is the amount of people born into homelessness in America just isn't the same as the amount of people born into these slums. You very rarely hear of people in America who were born into extreme poverty/homelessness and proceeded to live there the rest of their life, and then proceeded to have a family there, etc. That's just not a thing that's happening here on a wide scale (yet). In other countries, that's the situation for entire cities. You could say it's similar to America because we have a huge problem with children living in poverty, but those kids are generally still in schools and still have some sort of access to things like constant electricity, the internet, libraries, social programs, and to an extent food. Not that these are perfect or even sufficient for our current problems, but it's something. Not to bring out the most infamous of Tucker Carlson quotes, but "97% of poor people have a refrigerator!" Is that maybe the dumbest thing to say on American TV? Yes, absolutely. But it is the kind of thing Americans should keep in mind when comparing our poverty issues with those in countries where huge swaths of the population live in slum. Simply being born in America has many advantages, such as access to infrastructure.

[@Keykatriz]

I will say I think what I described about slums being a thing built over generations is actually more applicable to people in severely rural areas in America. It's a miniscule population in comparison to either the homeless population in America, those living in poverty in cities in America, and those living in slums in other countries, but it's far more similar. People will live in extreme poverty with generations of family and there's very little chance to move out of it. The big difference here being those people tend to still live either decently spread out or extremely far out, so they don't face the more community centered issues like crime.

[@dexterdeckard]

lmao I can't believe people are genuinely so shocked that the majority of people in countries continually exploited by western imperialism face a lower standard of living than poor people in those western powers 🤡

[@JukeboxTheGhoul]

@@_extrathicc Vaush isn't saying brown people dumb, though.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

As someone finishing my masters in Urban Planning, I'm loving the talks on it! And your idea of using it as a way to talk and push your political beliefs is a great idea, as for example the vast majority of people no matter their politics see shops closing down as a bad thing, which is all happening due to capitalist companies like Amazon etc. and we all have similar ideas of a well planned city that's divisons are normally aesthetic driven than ideological and especially the architecture of the built environment really do coalesce and Bridge political divides, even in our increasingly stratified society.

[@Blanksmithy123]

Are you enjoying the subject? And do you plan on going into the public or private sector? I’ve been thinking about going into urban planning for a while now.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@Blanksmithy123 yeah it's been great! I'd highly incourage you to go into it especially as you are basically garentueed a job, if you did the transport masters at my uni every single student was employed before they finished their degree. I wanted to go public but I'll be joining a constancy firm as there aren't that many public jobs right now (with covid and budget cuts in my nation), but it's not all doom and gloom I'll be earning more than almost anyone else in other degrees I know so I'm happy enough.

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

Well if the shops closing down can match Amazon’s pay rate I’d be happy to see more mom and pop shops and a smaller Amazon.

[@connorpeppermint8635]

How do I know if I'm a good fit for that position? I'm into history and it would be nice to channel my despair into something constructive.

[@hanli5416]

@@Alex-cw3rz it depends a lot on the economic situation when you get done with your studies. I have a masters degree, but because of economic crisis i only got like 2 years of consultancy experience which was not enough to get into the public government jobs. Been working at different logistics and postal office jobs 15 years since.

[@ANNIHILISTIC]

I had this period where I was truly fascinated with Kowloon city. It was such a dark place full of hardships and squalor... yet fascinating and otherworldly, the photos from inside it are incredible it's like some cyberpunk anime. Seriously, go look for them. Strange to think it's now a park, so many stories, so many lives happened there and now it's a lost-like-tears-in-the-rain type deal.

[@Stonehawk]

I wish we had the technology (and the collective will) at the time to have created a 3d scan of its entire interior...

[@haceofspades7682]

I'd never heard of it until this video but now I'm utterly mesmerised by it, it's awful but incredible and a million other things at once. I'd love to learn more about it

[@sexychobit86]

I just saw a little documentary of the Kowloon. It is very interesting, I might buy a book about it.

[@fsc8423]

Es very white, no. But vaush would be proud to see a hwwwite individual go to Kowloon in 1988 and be like, OMG I mean this decor is just fab, like honestly, honestly it's just a cap especially juxtaposed against these minimalist living people, OMG like this saviour using that pot as a toilet truly something to aspire to.

[@MarkArandjus]

@@fsc8423 Amusing ⬜ Clever ⬜ Worth discussing ⬜ Cringe ✅

[@beancheesedip8337]

God damn, why is Vaush's chat so determined to be stupid? It seemed like every sentence that came out of his mouth there were 100 people determined to disagree just to disagree. The chat saying that "Asians eating dogs isn't a racist stereotype because they actually did it and its bad" is the same chat that gets mad when Vaush talks about cooking steak because they're all apparently vegan.

[@jasper7084]

Smartest non vegans real 1080p

[@MK_ULTRA420]

Imagine being smart and being a Vaush fan at the same time for more than 10 minutes (Impossible, 0% completion on Steam).

[@WolfieboyMachi]

Eating dogs IS bad, though, and not in any way morally equivalent to eating pigs.

[@user-ro9md9wp3j]

I’m convinced that people in his chat are being dumb on purpose for attention, since they know Vaush will gladly take the bait

[@curranfrank2854]

@@WolfieboyMachi I mean pigs are smarter than dogs, the only reason we have an issue with dogs being eaten is cuz we've domesticated them as pets and our experiences with dogs tend to be exclusively with pets. I agree that eating your pet would be incredibly messed up but dogs raised for food are not peoples pets anymore than whatever livestock they might have.

[@BLooDCoMPleX]

Kowloon is first mentioned about 19 minutes in, for those who are wondering.

[@mikegonzalez1735]

thank you may the supreme leader bless you with his favor and good wishes

[@CockatooDude]

Thank you very much!

[@OuterGalaxyLounge]

'preciate ya.

[@Sammy_Chouchou]

My dad had a pet piglet, and it was the most adorable thing in the fucking world. He would go and use his snout to move this little blanket to cover him all the time, and laze around the place

[@LancesArmorStriking]

Thank you. I needed that.

[@medjeds]

i want to boop the snoot of a cute piglet tbh

[@kx7500]

I wanna smooch a piggy

[@Robin-jk6wz]

😊

[@littlemoth4956]

Heavily resisting the urge to make a bacon joke, you know how it goes

[@l.3ok]

I live in a third-world country (Brazil) and can assure you Vaush is absolutely correct in his takes here.

[@ZHike360]

Total, lek, bando de americano sem noção kkkk

[@LancesArmorStriking]

LA though? Istabul, Lagos, St Petersburg, most cities in China, most capitol cities in Europe, all have better infrastructure and are more dense than LA. LA is just a large parking lot with a few skyscrapers in between, and calls itself a "city." Even Chicago and DC are more built-up.

[@avinashreji60]

@@LancesArmorStrikingagain proving his point

[@SamGBSR]

As someone who lives in mexico city definitely come see it! I think the best term to describe it is “megalopolis latinoamericana” since its a phenomenon that happens a lot on this continent. Basically many parts of the city are first world looking and function similarly, but they’re connected to each other through large impoverished areas where the majority of the working class lives in conditions described often as “fourth world” (high density, very poor infrastructure, etc.). A few recent changes to legislation have made it so tax money is kept in each “district” cutting down severely on the funding that impoverished districts have access to, since they no longer receive a portion of the taxes from richer districts (imo a bad move). But yeah, if you people ever want to experience all the worlds at once definitely come visit. The thing he said about being able to do something every day forever definitely applies here.

[@SamGBSR]

Also you’re not going to get robbed here as a white tourist lmao. Every tourist destination in the city is very safe, I think you’d be surprised with how nice it can get and how hard it is to end up in any sort of unsafe situation when visiting.

[@SamGBSR]

Mexico city concentrates most of the country’s wealth by a large margin, it’s considered a largely centralized nation.

[@Bizcachi]

Lol, you see the same thing in San Juan, luxury condos, and hotels, where the tourists live. Then, densely populated poor neighborhoods with rusted tin roofs sprinkled throughout. I guess it's like a Latin America thing? 🤔 San Juan also had a huge mud-filled slum in the 1930s (a couple of decades after the US Invaded) but this one and some others went away after massive industrialization and public housing initiatives, that happened after we were granted fake sovereignty (they took it away in 2016, thanks obama🙄) Also most small towns have places like those too near their urban center, called "arrabales". My hometown has a favela-looking one. It used to be called "Caserio de los negros libertos" in Spanish-colonial times. Which makes me think the fact it was populated by freed black slaves w/ probably no safety net has something to do wit/ the perpetual impoverishment of the community 🤨

[@massa_todotipodemassa-5tea758]

Same with São Paulo to be honest

[@beezusHrist]

Or dirty...

[@HawkbitAlpha]

38:25 and 42:33 - For anybody wondering why the approach to Kai Tak (old Hong Kong airport) was so weird and risky, it's because there's mountains north of Hong Kong that make descending in for a normal approach impossible, so they had to approach at an angle and drop in over Kowloon City itself. That painful landing technique, combined with the airport being impossible to expand by way of being boxed in by Kowloon City (they weren't originally so close to each other), made the Hong Kong government shut the whole thing down and move to a new airport on an island way outside the city.

[@domenicgalata1470]

Mexico City, Sao Paola, Buenos Aires are enormous, sprawling metro areas with suburbs that have their own suburbs. Not to mention the “villas” or “favelas” that are also large densely packed ghetto style / tenement yard housing.

[@domenicgalata1470]

For anyone interested look up “ Villa 31” Buenos Aires. A city built under a bridge by the major railway station in the city. It just grew and grew and is out of control. Also aerial views of Buenos Aires are jaw dropping. A huge concrete jumble expanding out. Not much greenery.

[@cobraglatiator]

so like LA but worse?

[@m.s.35]

I live in Buenos Aires, I was actually shocked at the amount of nature in such a gigantic city. There are massive, old trees that line both sides of the majority of streets. There are tooons of green parks in town as well. I find the place absolutely gorgeous... most of it, anyway... villa 31 is a tragedy along with a lot of the suburbs. I have friends in Varela and the views from the train ride there are always sad

[@Nick-lv6ii]

one of my best friends lives in the philippines, always scares the shit out of me when i hear theres been a hurricane or earthquake.

[@novi_key]

What makes it worse is that a lot of disaster relief funds are siphoned off by big political families here. Makes it hard to get a leg up and makes a lot of people more dependent on the existing oppressive power structures.

[@dogearflopper7011]

Chat's hyperliteralism is shearing my skin off.

[@vishg5148]

They’re for the most part annoying 14 year olds who think they’re smarter than everyone

[@Bizcachi]

Theyre not wrong, but theyre not right. It's pretty ignorant af tho, if you're not gringx

[@haceofspades7682]

Chat makes ne want to cry sometimes

[@jessiemiller880]

How are you still typing?! Go to a hospital immediately!

[@gumblodobbins4465]

Voosh made some claims that imply some...uh...problematic beliefs. There are parts of mexico city that are much "nicer" and more developed than LA. I think the term he was looking for is fully industrialized western nations - which he also implied was a good trait. This is problematic for its own reasons which im sure you can imagine without me spelling it out to you.

[@ProgressivePoliticsNetwork]

Lost it when you said "lotta world outhere"

[@jorgesanchis5534]

Average american

[@aegonthedragon7303]

America moment

[@lusteraliaszero]

tokyo genuinely makes LA feel really tiny, sure, it's big, but going from LA to tokyo is still a magnitudal shift the way going from a mid sized city to LA is

[@cosmic_jon]

Vaush's tips for going vegan are pretty good! It has become WAY easier in the last couple years. I will note a couple more things: Oatly Barista Edition oat milk is just as good as regular milk, and you can use it the same way. Vegan cheese has made a lot of progress, especially vegan mozzarella and feta. Nutritional Yeast tastes cheesy. You can make a 'nacho cheese' from potato, onion, carrot, and nutritional yeast. It only takes a couple weeks to get used to tofu, and you will grow to love it. It's really true. Just start with fried tofu ;) Black salt tastes exactly like eggs, for better or worse. I use it in 'tofu scramble'. A lot of things are vegan you might not expect. Even some chips that are 'cheese flavored' or 'sour cream and onion' are actually vegan. I could give a lot more, but I think that's enough for now...

[@KateRunsIntoWalls]

Oreos are vegan for some reason lol

[@stbananastein]

I recently discovered that a lot of 'fancier' buns and breads at my local grocery are vegan. Like a really good Italian loaf, and some brioche buns, all accidentally vegan :)

[@greyjackalope6938]

Gardein sells a vegan fish fillet that looks, feels like, and tastes EXACTLY like fish its insane. I have recently been eating an unhealthy amount of them.

[@stbananastein]

@@greyjackalope6938 SAME lol. I try to eat healthily, but sometimes that battered and deep fried goodness just calls to me

[@greyjackalope6938]

@@stbananastein I had a coworker buy me groceries because they had a excess amount of spending in their food card, and I got like 6 bags of them. Im happy they dont make your stomach upset because Id be suffering through it.

[@martha881]

chat freaking out is so american. to genuinely compare slums in bangeldesh to homeless people in a 1st world country so unbelievable.

[@normandy2501]

It's ironic to me that Thought Slime also just put out a vid about the idea that shit could be way worse for us compared to these areas. Of course they could be better given what we have access to, but there are times where progressives (especially white ones) come across exactly like conservatives say they do. It misses the point entirely.

[@user-ro9md9wp3j]

@@normandy2501 that isn’t what irony is + watching thought slime L

[@ravenhopkins347]

As someone who lives in the “bad parts” of LA, dude this place is amazing. Like Barstow is significantly scarier to walk around at night and hell in the day as well compared to LA. I would gladly take the slums of this city over anywhere else’s slums. We NEED to do WAY better, but we are developed as hell. I’m privileged to be poor here compared to poor in Barstow or almost anywhere else’s slums

[@Shulwelld]

That’s because Barstow is the worst city in California lol, it didn’t feel too dangerous to me but just absolutely depressing

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

I live in “the hood.” Like, they were shooting _Snowfall_ here the week I moved in. And using this block because it’s historically accurate. But damn if I don’t like Lincoln Heights a whole lot better than I liked Hollywood.

[@Infinite_voyager]

Mexico City has very uneven development, as vaush pointed out. You have a high class area, a historic center and then a lot of urban development on all classes. You can see all types of class contrasts. Also, there is a historic class disparity between the white Spanish descending Mexican population (aka whitexicans) and the aboriginal descending Mexicans (darker skinned population) that is perpetuated by the systems they have (talk about systemic racism outside the US) and you can see it all over the city with the distribution of the population, jobs they have, education levels, etc.

[@yosephbuitrago897]

Yeah, like when they decided to pass legislation keeping tax money in the respective districts, keeping poor areas away from having access to taxes from richer areas, cutting the funding poor area get

[@whiskyfox7943]

That basically the definition of third world capital

[@معرفةوترفيه-ت2ظ]

It looks like most of the people who go like "No Vaush Mexico is a developped country" are just random Westerners who visited the bussniess center of Mexico city and concluded that's the entire city. No one from Mexico would make that ridiculous statement even for just Mexico city (let alone all of the country).

[@whiskyfox7943]

@@معرفةوترفيه-ت2ظ That's true

[@معرفةوترفيه-ت2ظ]

@Coconut Head Fun fact : No one here is talking about infrastructure. Also I have been to Mexico a few times, I have relatives there. It is clearly more similar to my own third world country (Lebanon) than it is to the first world.

[@Gichev90]

Hong Kong is actually super developed and in ways more western than Seoul.

[@MurderousPingu]

I'm from Madrid, and may be a bit biased towards my country, but city planning wise I think Barcelona is one of the best cities there are, Madrid itself is also pretty good but it has a few issues I would like to work out. Both of them are much better than Paris and London, imo, even though they're very solid cities to live in (more so London i kinda hate Paris xd). Going for a more down-scaled city, most dutch cities are great. I've also lived in Finland and most cities are lso very solid. I have never lived in Mexico city but I've been and it seemed quite cool, can't really speak to its livability though. Similar thing with Tunis, it was surprisingly (to me) similar to what a European city could be, althoughthe cultural aspect is very different, and I could not understand their French for the life of me.

[@devon674]

the first codblops has a really good kowloon walled city campaign level, not quite the sort of game I usually see you playing but I feel like you'd enjoy it based on your fascination with kowloon learning about it. of course it includes gun fights on the rooftops in a torrential downpour with jet airliners passing by like ten feet overhead.

[@aurelionight]

There's a custom Zombies map based on that level, and there was a bug on it that makes it so if you leap off the spawn building, you basically start swimming in the air. So, that's all I can think of when I hear the word Kowloon.

[@aegonthedragon7303]

Die Rise?

[@devon674]

@@aegonthedragon7303 die rise is a zombies map in CODBLOPS 2, "Numbers" is the name of the campaign level in the first Black Ops set in Kowloon that I mentioned.

[@Bizcachi]

I live in Puerto Rico, which is by all means a 3rd world country and Vaush is absolutely right about this. I'd rather be in skid row, than walk through La Perla (the place in the Despacito music video). I was near La Perla in new years eve, expecting to see fireworks, but all i got was rapid fire machine guns 😳 i had to run for my life/ I never thought id agree w/ a Vaush take abt other countries so much in my life. But chat is so wrong its not hard to a agree with Vaush on this.

[@flowyflo2619]

I learned about Kawloon in University (Architecture). Obviously the immense density an poor living conditions are bad, but the idea of having so many uses (living spaces, Shops, Workshops, doctors....) so close together is seen as a positive thing - compared to the monofunctional housing trend we see in most developed countries, mostly suburbs.

[@littlemoth4956]

That sounds horribly depressing

[@bobjones2959]

Is that positive? I guess it is for the sake of saving space but man, the utter lack of personal space would drive me nuts. Definitely wouldn't wanna live there even without the safety hazards and crime.

[@samuelbarber5097]

another example of a big city with the added area is the difference between atlanta and metro atlanta, it's 500,000 people vs 2-3~million people

[@drehitemup9904]

Metro Atlanta is like >6 million people

[@dylanc9174]

Because urban sprawl is back at it again making public infrastructure impossible.

[@tomwilson5108]

La city is 4 million whilst with metro its over 13 million

[@Post-Ioooo]

This type of content is so fun, i love seeing vaush/chat learn I still wish he had continued watching that germany couldn't win ww2 video that one time

[@saliv88]

I’m SO HAPPY the Kowloon Walled City segment got clipped. I mentioned it in a donation over a year ago because I thought it would make for a great bit.

[@Keykatriz]

The Tokyo stat is so wild to me when you put it into relative perspective. These numbers may be slightly off cause I'm not going to look them up and it's what I recall from a Japanese Business class I took 10 years ago, but I believe Japan itself has a similar size to California but a population of around 120 Million. Having 120 million people in an area the size of California is already totally wild, imagine if a third of a population of the US lived in just California. In comparison, the actual population of California is essentially the same as just the Tokyo area, ~39M, and it contains numerous big cities - LA, SF, SJ, etc. It's like, what if the entire population moved to just LA, and then we moved another 80m people into the rest of California.

[@Keykatriz]

All this to say in America, if you're in a big city and there's a big event nearby that draws in several thousand people, your entire city descends in chaos of traffic and $80 parking. I hate going to concerts because you stick 10k extra Americans in an area and we literally don't know how to behave, it's the hunger games immediately. Imagine how much better our lives could be if we have any desire to city plan like the Japanese.

[@chucku00]

4:25 Vaush is conflating Paris urban area density (4,000) and "real" Paris inner city density (20,000). The whole Île-de-France (metropolitan area) has big forests and many small villages (less than 500 inhabitants). BTW the whole metropolitan area is similar to the whole Los Angeles county (12,000 square km) and has a density of around 1,000 inhabitants per square kilometre. Due to the fact the city of Paris is located in a basin (the Parisian basin is larger than the city itself) the pollution can stay there when the is no wind, so the sky can often be gray. 7:30 Looks like he found out he was wrong... Most Paris slums were eradicated during the 80's (but there were squatts at the time), but since the end of the 90's the former "petite ceinture" ("small belt" circular abandoned railways around the city that have been replaced by buses on the exterior boulevards) have been populated by homeless slums due to the exorbitant cost of housing in the city. And it has been wiped out a few years ago. 20:15 "Are you a KZbinr or a company?" Vaush asking this about Simon Whistler and his infinite number of channels on YT is the best question of the day, and one of the funniest!

[@Helperbot-2000]

dude did you even read the chat when he was watching simon, i cant tell if most of them are on another troll level or if they genuinely like his hyper-slop lmfao

[@SafetySkull]

Every couple of days I go vegan by being too lazy to consume anything other than: 3 energy drinks, 1 bread roll with margarine, and a bag of chips

[@sebastiangeorger5791]

We do 45° turns for base leg and Final more often than you think. More often in higher traffic areas though

[@rulerovall1219]

“But eating pigs is normal.” That’s what we call Cultural Bias, like Vaush said. That’s Ike saying “pink is for girls”. Only in the sense that we normalized that concept. We normalized eating pigs. In another timeline America could have been eating dogs and could’ve thought eating pigs was morally wrong.

[@VecheslavNovikov]

I think it's to do with dogs being designed as companion animals rather than food animals.

[@ResidentNinja]

When it comes to the city it's really telling that there was no group with ultimate power and it's because there was a pretty strict and lethal ceiling on that power

[@ericlcornwell]

Two of my favorite KZbin channels in one video.

[@DieNibelungenliad]

I feel like Kowloon Walled City is an unintentional anarchist commune. Ofcourse, its not perfect, but theres alot to learn for anarchists

[@HeloisGevit]

Based Anarcho-communist China.

[@hershy1594]

Imagine thinking the US poor, with less than 1% of our population without access to clean drinking water, is as bad off as the rest of the world's poor, where that percentage is around 25%

[@torumakalig5692]

“They should have just built it taller, and risked a 9/11” is by far my favorite quote

[@thomask5965]

I’ve had an interest in the walled city for a few years now. I kept shouting out the answers to all of the questions that Vaush had while watching 😂. There’s a (pretty expensive but good) photo book by Greg Girard and Ian Lambot where they document many people and places in the walled city a few years before it was demolished. I got it for my birthday the other year and it’s an interesting coffee table book.

[@CharlesLeSorcier]

I learned about the Kowloon Walled city through the shadowrun game that was mentioned by one the chatters. I legit thought it was some fictional cyberpunk location until this segment.

[@АлександрСудаков-с2и]

They mentioned the old Kowloon in the game tho :/

[@CharlesLeSorcier]

@@АлександрСудаков-с2и I played the game on and off for a couple years so I must have forgotten that detail

[@SeaSickBeatz]

This is his genuine accent. He has been accused of faking his videos but he puts his sources on his website. His writers are pretty good at citing their material, and he takes down videos and adds interjections to correct things or update them when needed. The guy has like 15 channels lol, and they're all pretty good. He does editorialize but he makes it clear when he's doing that.

[@Rhodair]

40:45 when the mushrooms Vaush touched kick in

[@idontknowlikemum2225]

Anyone who pretends eating dog is somehow more egregious, morally inferior than eating any other kind of animals, pig nonetheless, is blatantly anti-intellectual.

[@jessiemiller880]

I think there are good arguments that can be made for animals having varying levels of moral worth, based on things like intelligence. The pig vs dog thing, though, is pure cope. There is not a meaningful difference between the two, and most any trend comes out in favor of the pig (I'm a loving dog-owner).

[@FernandoTorrera]

I fully understand that pigs are very intelligent but they are the most destructive domestic animal I know of. They are omnivores so they destroy vegetation and wildlife. If they had the ability to produce technology and pollution they would be on par with humans. There absolutely need to be less pigs in the world and less should be made

[@Rainkit]

I mean, we didn't breed dogs to be eaten. Livestock we do. I mean all you have to do is look at how they grow. At 5 months old the average meat chicken can't walk because its too heavy. A meat turkey can suffocate under the weight of its breast meat. Like the meat chicken it also can't walk after about 8 months. Morally I don't think there's a difference. Humans will eat anything from song birds drowned in wine (ortolan bunting) to tiger penises (chinese meat trade). There is no moral option for food. The way modern crops are grown is causing the extinction of bees, insects and birds across the US. Going vegan just creates more demand for more cropland, destroying what remains of vulnerable ecosystems like prairies. Prairie ecosystems being one which raising cattle protects because cattle need grazing land. Besides, if everyone stops eating meat, no farmers will raise livestock. Farmers don't care for animals out of the goodness of their heart. There needs to be money in it. Unlike dogs and cats, cattle and pigs don't live in our homes as companions. Even if we do make mini versions of these animals to be pets and save the species as a whole, you are still sentencing millions of breeds to extinction.

[@gurkenskoppie]

@@Rainkit Your take is kinda dumb tho. Like everything is bad to some extent so don´t bother at all? Veganisms is creating more demand for cropland? What? What do you think animals have to eat, so you can eat them? Crops, right? As far as I know the meat and diary industry is a gigantic waste of water, energy and crops, all in the name of producing unhealthy food ( that you could replace with vegan equally unhealthy or healthier options) ignoring the suffering and death of billions concious mammals, not too unlike to our own children. If you want to meaningfully avoid creating unnecessary general suffering, eating plant based stuff and leaving out animal products is a functional way to do so. And prairies get fucked if there is not a functional eco system, that sustains them, thats not the same as needing cattle to protect grazing land --> there is third options you are leaving out there. And all those species, that you said would go extinct, you specified are unable to survive on their own, live a life in horrible conditions and the destruction of the rainforrest to make soy for cattle is killing off way more species, that actually could survive on their own (cause they can actually walk). I think you are just trying to rationalize your, in this case, immoral behavior by doomerpilling yourself. Atleast thats what I did, before I went vegan, so maybe I´m projecting. All humans hate giving up their old habits and they will come up with some major bullshit, to justify their current path, no one is save from that. Again, maybe I´m not getting your perspective here, but that´s what your argument sounded to me, so have a good one.

[@bananian]

@@Rainkit You would need less cropland if everyone goes vegan. The crops goes to feeding people directly instead of the animals. It's a thermodynamic certainty. Going vegan is the moral option but people lie to themselves thinking there's no other way but to torture animals for food even though there are tons of vegan options out there.

[@kurgans]

47:07 "you know what else is mean?" *cuts to an ad break*

[@Oscar_the_fascist_slayer]

When Vaush said South Korea was western he had me worried there

[@818Kira]

Been in LA all my life, still finding new things to do and not even close to boring

[@richardthomas905]

I think I remember hearing that Dahka is believed to be the oldest continuesly settled area in the world, which makes sense being a river delta in southeast Asia. It's one of those situations where, there are people that probably lived there for many, many generations in an area that is many times older then the United States.

[@corncake4677]

Did a project on that place in high school. It was cool. Made a board game out if it and referenced black ops 1 in it

[@Onkoe]

Hell yeah, heard Dark Tourism and realized that this would have been a great match! Great show

[@gast321]

I was recently in Bangladesh, it's very packed in Dhaka ( and the traffic is hell)

[@Beeg_Boy]

Lol he coulda just said “global north” instead of “western” and dodged like 5 minutes of stunlock

[@veemie8148]

muh newspeak lol

[@jessiemiller880]

It's a good word.

[@ryannada1987]

I love LA so much, my sister moved there about ten years ago and I hiked up to the top of Griffith and I just marveled as an east coast boy, I wondered how they did it. I did some research on LA about how it started at the plaza and church like a traditional Pueblo, you have the Mexican American war where we steal LA, then the railroads connect LA and you can get a ticket from Kansas City for a buck, and then you have the 1880’s Victorian housing boom on Bunker Hill. I love that Angel’s Flight funicular on Hill Street, the only thing left from that time. Someday I will move to LA.

[@alexs1954]

“The fort had to be surrendered to the refugees” Well that’s one you don’t hear very often.

[@SanguineThor]

Poggies, i understand why vaush feels this way. I started in a 3k population corn field town and i moved to the capital of Michigan. Best decision I've ever been able to take. Thankful for it.

[@hammondmay7545]

Detroit

[@seneca983]

@@hammondmay7545 The capital of Michigan is Lansing.

[@withinthrall1445]

Was born in Tokyo here, if you go and visit the first time you’ll assume all 39 million people are there. Of course I always have love for the place I was born but I’m so glad I grew up in Kanto before coming back to the states so I got to experience it all. If anyone ever gets a chance please go visit!

[@capngio4589]

Really surprised vaush hadn’t read into this previously. Really fascinating kowloon was

[@coaxill4059]

It's actually very common for the stronger drug to be for the lower class. Consider cocaine vs crack, methamphetamine vs amphetamine, xanax vs valium, and of course fentanyl vs heroin.

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

Is Xanax less powerful than Valium? And is Valium considered lower class? Also, I think it’s probably Ritilan/Concerta/Adderall vs Amphetamines. But I take your overall point.

[@TrynePlague]

Ahhh Kowloon.. I remember the time when I was walking through its streets and passageways, looking for Lan Di, fighting my way through dozens of Chi You Men. I wonder how Ren and Joy are doing.. I'm sad.

[@l.francesca4780]

Today I learned that pigs can play videogames. I want to get a pig to play video games with me as a gimmick now. Imagine how rad that would be. A youtube channel where you co-op with your pet pig. What does a controller for a pig look like though?

[@InfiniteBeak]

Think how absurdly big LA is, then realise that it's only the 23rd biggest city on the planet :O

[@AcornFox]

Voosh: I wonder what the ideal population density is Me, an introverted hunter/fisherman/farmer: about 0.001ppl/km^2 with gigabit internet

[@lzmunch]

53:16 i think this was helped by the culture of caring and respecting your elders

[@revedefleurs181]

14:44 Yeah, I live in the Philippines so I have an idea about how bad it gets. Some people actually go through trash and find basically leftover meat from fast food containers (and other sources). They get all those and put it in one container, clean it however they can and then deep fry it. It's a dish called "pagpag". I obviously have no idea how bad it gets in the states but goddamn - we have communities here that start businesses and formulate systems to get as much value as they can from scraps and other people's wastes.

[@novi_key]

At least when american hobos go dumpster diving, it's not really gone bad - just corporate instructions to get rid of the food or the expiration date says it's spoiled even if it isn't. Never heard of pagpag, but god damn. That ain't nutrition.

[@MenacingWithVideos]

I worked with a guy from Vietnam who moved to Kowloon for a while. He liked the place.

[@FaylunaRaRa]

The United Arab Emirates has an interesting city to look into... Masdar City... It's like a very odd city centered around being EXTREMELY green and like utilizing renewable energy... It's basically a city-wide experiment... I remember hearing about it ages ago from "Daily Planet" on the Discovery Channel back when that show had that old guy who was the host of it... I remember being disappointed when that guy was no longer on the show... Used to enjoy that as a kid...

[@mml1426]

Vaush: Korea is West but no Mexico. Vaush should definitely stick to politics

[@TheBoringTiger]

Oh the first time I’ve heard about the Kowloon city is because in middle school, I’ve read the book called “The Walled City” and it’s based off of that city.

[@cakenshake]

Vaush pulling up the Manilla slums looking like a damn fallout 4 settlement.

[@torrb420]

I raised turkies and we eat them here in the USA for Thanksgiving, while domesticated free ranged turkies have very distinct dog like personalities. A few of my birds where by all means "lap-dogs". Ever since raising turkies, I have had a big problem eating them for Thanksgiving. I also raised chickens and have less of an issue eating them oddly. Maybe because turkies can be more sociable at times. Not sure.

[@hewhomustnotbenamed9276]

Watching his terminally white, hand-wringing, chat being pedantic is paradoxically both frustrating and amusing. 😄

[@hewhoisme4343]

46:40 One time we got Chinese food and my dad thought the beef tasted odd, and actually said: "This tastes weird, I wonder if this is dog." He actually fucking said that, wasn't a joke.

[@AdamtheHassler]

I recently learned that my fiancée's dad grew up in Kowloon walled city. Super interesting stuff

[@ndnerd1781]

Oh hey, a wild Simon hosting yet another channel I didn't know existed

[@logarhythmic6859]

52:43 He's right, I certainly associate triads with violins.

[@Facebooker413]

Alan Watts had an interesting quote that reflects something like this "For example, we have a slum, and that people are in difficulty and so on and they need better housing. Now if you go in with a bulldozer and bulldoze the slum, and you were put in its place by some architects imaginative notions of what is a super efficient high rise apartment building to stop people you create a total mess. Utter chaos. A slum has what we would call an ecology It has a very complex system of relationships going in it. By which the thing is already a going concern even though it isn’t going very well. Anybody who wants to alter that situation must first of all become sensitive, to all the conditions and relationships going on there" There's this beauty I find in Slums. The people there, are living a hard life, an undoubtedly true fact. But these people are still living lives- even though they are deprived in many ways- and in that environment, there is an indescribable character that forms from within. You cant fix slums by deleting them

[@soccerruben1]

Learning about urban planning is so cool.

[@KodahSmith]

I was in the chat while this was happening, it was incredible

[@witchflowers6942]

46:30 I CANT BELIEVE CHAT WOULD TALK BACK ABOUT IT??? Amerindians ONLY had dogs for domesticated animals. they ate them. they also used them for transport and in therapy and for wool(ie Salish wooly dog). they also loved dogs as companions. dogs are not special. i love my dogs, id run into a burning building for them. I am also vegan, though.

[@beverlyshields2399]

Tbh Vaush's best video in awhile

[@michaeljames2349]

Shout out from Seoul!

[@__-bk6mm]

“This guy has been accused of making misleading videos” no fucking shit chat it’s KZbin 😂😂😂

[@FaylunaRaRa]

I actually looked into this before, eating dogs is actually also a part of Swiss culture... (I think it became part of some delicacy among like poor Swiss farmers or peasants or whatever)... I don't THINK it's like, all of Switzerland does it, but some of Switzerland does... ALTHOUGH China does have some other really weird things on their menu, like there's a bird that I think uses it's spit or something like that to solidify into a nest and then Chinese people will literally consume those nests as part of a soup or something like that... I can't see myself ever eating a soup with a bird nest in it that was created by solidified bird saliva...

[@lava172]

Bro what the fuck I just watched the real life lore video on this yesterday and now a 1 hour vaush video drops on it

[@gfox-ck5xx]

The Xinjiang dissidents 🥶🍦BING CHILLING🍦🥶 in the "re education" chambers :pepe:

[@captainChernihiv]

Insanely beautiful stunlock segment

[@schlaier]

Ghetto: a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure Slum: A heavily populated urban area characterized by substandard housing and squalor.

[@schlaier]

Be offended by their existence not that someone points out their existence

[@milico2935]

Turns out: He didn't pronounce São Paulo correctly. Portuguese is tricky lol

[@Instealer21]

Started from the top, now we here.

[@rulerovall1219]

Imagine if the Walled City wasn’t located near an airport. Imagine if they just kept….building upward. It’d be like something out of Dread 2012.

[@spluff5]

SCP-184 is set in this city I believe. It's atmospheric.

[@pedrosaraiva]

If my country ever fought an “Opium War” I’d look at it in a very different way

[@nightsyko]

there was a really cool martial art comic about that city

[@SteveScapesYT]

I’m in Tokyo and had no idea 😂