CHEATING at the WSOP Main Event?! ($10,000,000 for 1st)

Should coaching on the rail be allowed at the WSOP?
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[@AlexDuvall]

Hey all, this video didn't hit as hard as I wanted. It was early and the aftermath hadn't happened yet. Going to make another that I hope to be far superior. Let me know any points that you really want me to cover in the next one? Thanks! EDIT: Also I mispronounced a word and that drove people crazy😝

[@joshuapatrick682]

I would ask you to research the potential criminal liability of breaking NGCB regulations by using software to determine and implement strategy in a game they sanction, if you are comfortable doing so because this is a clear breach of it

[@makenzienohr4105]

Lmao do we let chess players consult engines mid-play? This shouldn’t even be a question. No computers allowed.

[@Lou-Meatskavitch]

Anyone defending Tomayo does so because they themselves need to use solvers to win.

[@RazielDeTam]

In the middle of candidates Hikaru:"coach, let me see my notes for g6 first". Very close to this situation

[@darylmixan8170]

That's way different... It would be similar if half of the chess pieces were blocked off and after you made a move, a random piece changes positions... A solver is a good aid but it doesn't tell you exactly what to do in ALL situations... The numbers it spits out is the same whether it's me vs my 2 drunk uncles playing a $2 tourney or Me facing a raise vs Greg Raymer with Phil Ivey to my Left...

[@jacktatryan6878]

it's ridiculous that anyone even tries to justify this.

[@pennywise4843]

How is this even a debate? This is shameful, disgusting behaviour. It needed to be clamped down on yesterday.

[@jailbreakoverlander]

there should be no laptops no cellphones during a cash game EVER. Its purest form of playing anything left.

[@jailbreakoverlander]

I dig your vids always happy to see a new one.

[@Blase21]

Not a cash game :)

[@mattmolzan3992]

Then ur entries will go down by 80%+......that's why the allowed it after initially saying phones aren't allowed at table in all poker rooms in country

[@FatherofMan25]

Think about every great moment in poker history, or even poker moments in film. Now imagine every one of those moments interrupted while the player goes over to a computer to find out what to do.

[@WorldGoyimUnite]

Shouldn't even be allowed to see your opponents hand history during final table! There is at no time, during other tournaments,the ability to see your opponents hands after they muck and should be the same during all WSOP final tables

[@unlimitedpubes]

You can during player breaks anyway

[@cj7139]

So we shouldn't have any coverage of the event until it's over?

[@tombeh]

This is ridiculous and impossible to police!

[@brianpotter2812]

Not true. You can see all hand history (that was revealed) on WSOP website. It doesn't show hole cards if taken down without a showdown, but you can go back multiple hands to see the hand histories (but you only have a small time limit to perform your action so you better be quick!)

[@aviakaabrahamlanger8767]

We know ! The announcer said as much ! Read this ! Gamblers and players !?! THINK OF THIS !?! The casino aka "the house" does use tools to fleece money from yall !?! Earpieces, security, computers,laptops,phones,player profiles,etc. Of course tammayo did something wrong Playing the player at a heads up point with rail coaches is questionable !?! The "Sport of KINGS" is by no means pure !?! What will the WSOP do about it ? Good question !?! The way they painted it the "amateur" vs. The "Pro" I found strongly distasteful ! They made the griff look bad !?! Whose on line to fine the tammayo team the $10m !?! Poker cops are a dime a dozen !?! Weed isn't good for you!?! Legal ? Is legal good you ? Is breaking the law good for anyone ?? IS BREAKING THE LAW AKA RULES GOOD FOR ANYONE ? UH he said poker cop !?!

[@Ek0]

Poker is a card game. It is not a sport.

[@treycuret]

I'm very interested to hear the argument for it being a sport. Its definitely a competition, but idk lol

[@noellutsey5620]

Exactly 💯. If we're going to call poker a "sport"...then we need to call chess a sport because chess takes wayyyy more skill. Anyone can get lucky in poker on a given day and beat Phil Ivey. But in Chess, no random player is ever going to beat Magnus.

[@TrueSaintly]

This is the whole "are video games art?" debate in a different form. Who cares? Are poker players really that insecure that in a roundabout way they want to call themselves athletes? I think poker is not a sport and that does not make it less of a pursuit.

[@DrinkWater713]

​@@noellutsey5620chess is indeed considered to be a sport. I don't agree, but it is.

[@TheMrmike121]

2005 when we went from bad asses like Sammy Farha to this dork crap.

[@scrubfive9239]

Things change, everything continues to evolve and move forward. Sammy comes from an era where playing poker was extremely profitable if you intuitively knew a lot of things that are considered basic poker principles nowadays. "Hand ranges, positional play, pot odds, etc...". I'll admit, it was much more entertaining for viewership when there were lots of big splashy donk plays and large personalities. However, I can still appreciate watching good players make good decisions/plays based on a technical understanding of the game and game theory.

[@GRMLDD]

Ohh come on spot on its cheating proper geeky cheating all excited looking at a screen obviously the wsop let themselves and the players down with the lack of backbone they showed …

[@mikerobinson-zq8yp]

Poker is not a sport period. And you shouldn’t be allowed to consult the rail. Tainted win.

[@avib1955]

Right it shouldn't be I agree but also it's not his fault there's nothing in the rules that says he can't that's all on WSOP they need to start implementing new rules cus here are many grey areas in

[@mikerobinson-zq8yp]

@@avib1955 they literally made announcements about this. It is 100% against the rules.

[@patricksimington6871]

I agree poker is not a sport

[@weston9106]

@@mikerobinson-zq8ypthey announced it but it is not specified in the actual rules well enough

[@Zstone38]

No, it shouldn't - at the very least it's a bad look for the game of poker. For new players to the game whether amateur or aspiring pros it shows them this is what it takes - it takes having a bunch of very good pros on your rail coaching and running sims for you in between hands for you to win. There needs to be some sort of rule change. Yes technically it is within the rules but it was not a good look for this game we all love.

[@tannerandreae3080]

@@Zstone38 they weren't running sims between hands. The stream is on an hour delay, so they were running hands that happened at minimum an hour prior. And implying that he wouldn't have won without them is so ridiculous.

[@Zstone38]

@@tannerandreae3080 I didn't imply that he wouldn't have won without it, my most pertinent point was that it's not a good look for poker in general. This does not look good for new people coming into the game or for aspiring pros. I don't know if he would or wouldn't have won without that. I do know how it looked to me and many others. That's what my point was.

[@tannerandreae3080]

@@Zstone38 "it takes having a bunch of very good pros on your rail coaching and running Sims for you in between hands for you to win." That's implying that he needed it to win. Please re-read and comprehend your first comment

[@Zstone38]

@@tannerandreae3080 Yes I mean that's the message we are sending to amateurs and aspiring pros. Those are the optics of it

[@christopherwells2787]

Did he just say “ep-I-tome” lmfaoooo

[@dancrunk1063]

This was a great main event. Then the final table happened. Sigh

[@Bricksallday113]

Coaching live on rail is ridiculous. Griff imo did punt that final hand though which was the decider basically. I don’t think the coaching had any effect here, but I think live coaching is a bad look for the game.

[@tanthony298]

He made a few punts Q4 off on a AK high board if he played proper he probably takes it down same the Astedt he should've folded that KJ he wouldve had 40 bigs and a massive skill advantage no reason to take such a risky spot

[@pugsnhogz]

-1 for "eh pit ohm" i let it slide this time but you're on thin ice

[@royce_butler]

Agreed, l2english Alex

[@AlexDuvall]

English is hard

[@AlexDuvall]

FU for stacking me

[@duece3000gt24]

@@AlexDuvalllol bro. You crack me up and i thought you were trolling when you said epa tome. But I’m sure you have looked it up since this post.

[@supersmoo7377]

Eh-Pit-Oh-Mee is the proper pronunciation, Alex Duvall. I'm sure you've heard the word before.

[@joshuapatrick682]

According to the Nevada Gaming Control Board which sanctions and regulates the WSOP, yes. They have rules that clearly indicate the use of software to influence or implement strategy in any of the games they sanction is disallowed. Case closed. If someone pressed this could be pursued on a criminal level.

[@randynBroncos]

It showed Tamayo was not playing by himself. Griff and Astedt knocked out 7 out of 9 finalists

[@Ac3p3rgAA]

Rules should be way more strict. this is ridiculous! no laptops, no phones - don`t even supply them wi-fi! And if some1 just holds a device in the hand - disqualify

[@seamunke]

These nerds are killing poker

[@tombeh]

Ah yes, 10,000+ entrants...poker is certainly dead.🙄

[@theowl3756]

According to Tournament Rule announced over the speaker to the entire room, this was indeed violation of the Rule, and the Tamayo must be disqualified. It is that simple and obvious.

[@MrKydaman]

If you let this slide what's next? Do all players start going to their rails on breaks like boxers between rounds? Then they can review previous hands, look at solvers, get advice, etc. Would it be better to try to ban this kind of help? 🤷‍♂️

[@Someguyonyoutube5000]

Yes ban it. They tried it in chess, and then removed it. It ends up being a game between coaches. Whoever has the better coaching stable wins. Then a player will show up with all the elite players in their corner as coaches and no regular person can compete with that.

[@Vndett-sm2ce]

I didnt see any laptop solving hands because there was a paywall between the Final Table and me.

[@michaelfield4642]

They should not only ban laptops. They should banned phones at the table in the audience and not let anybody review play for at least the day until the next day, because if they have a 1/2 hour between a break to look at see what somebody did 30 minutes ago, that's kind of unfair. Now you see exactly how they're playing that same day, which gives them a lot of information they shouldn't be allowed to have any information there never used to be that in the older days

[@blzzz]

It's not against the rules but do we want a team with computers for every player. Might aswell let engines play and bet who which one wins.

[@dylanr8481]

It's illegal in Nevada. Look it up.

[@Someguyonyoutube5000]

It is against the rules. They stated “no solvers” before each tournament.

[@Lou-Meatskavitch]

It's a clear rule violation, look it up. He should technically be disqualified, or at the least, forfeit his firat place finish and be awarded 9th.

[@PMP77]

He was wearing a hoodie, why wouldn't we think he couldn't be wearing an ear pod..

[@garrickmusic]

0:39 Pause on this image and zoom in on Tamayo's right ear, (your left) you can clearly see the stem of an airpod.

[@MMAirdropKing]

@@garrickmusicdude is handing out earpod after that, u can find it on original video

[@theowl3756]

The worst part was Jack Effel inviting the cheater, Joseph McKeehen, to come to the table and celebrate cheating with Tamayo...!!!...It is just very Sick.

[@Ac3p3rgAA]

People just can`t play poker anymore. hilarious

[@CashMonkeyBluffmaster]

I know I remember seeing that live and my jaw dropped! I was thinking someone's gonna stop him but no they didn't 😂

[@TheTheagent07]

its supposed to be one player per hand thats wrong

[@pangaea6united]

Also his hood up was suspect tomayo

[@jigsaw6246]

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[@makenzienohr4105]

It’s kinda crazy how the poker world is so undecided on what constitutes cheating (in comparison to other sports or games)

[@rawheadrex8487]

Your argument of "why didnt the recreational player get his own help?" is ridiculous! NOBODY should be allowed help during the game. Poker isn't a team sport!

[@pennyandluckpokerclub]

It's just gross to see this.

[@Killuminatiforlyfe]

I think the players should not be able to be so close to the rail where they can touch them.

[@WontonSlim]

Damn bro you were definitely one of the first platforms to even speak on this. Petition for Alex to become pokers’ premier standard for poker news!!!!

[@blzzz]

If this continues rec players will have no chance.

[@jaimevelez4861]

How is it cheating? It’s not during the hand? It’s not like they are seeing a live stream of the cards and they are banging on a garbage cans to tell him to call or fold or raise or bluff.

[@jaimevelez4861]

If you want to ban them, I’m not against it like getting rid of head phones at the feature tables or final table. I don’t see how any of that makes a big difference but I’m not against making it a rule from the start.

[@stevest8675]

@@jaimevelez4861agree

[@Frenziedflub]

We found the one idiot defending this crap.

[@jiib321]

So if it's not giving him an edge then why's he doing it? He's being externally aided. It's not coaching, it's playing poker as a team when it should be mano-a-mano.

[@jaimevelez4861]

@@jiib321 i agree they shouldn’t be aloud to do it in the poker room in between hands. But it’s not like they are helping him in the current hand. It’s just like if a QB goes to the sideline and looks at video during the game of the defense. I think it definitely helps reviewing the hands and it definitely helping him and that shouldn’t be aloud from the rail. But for sure they all do it after they get back to their rooms with simulators and range charts and coaches they pay for. This is just after he folds. They don’t see the hands for 30 min after.

[@GaDawg84]

I'm fine with it either way. The rail gets the hands an hour on delay. Can they pick up information on an opponent that could possibly help? Yes. But how often are you going to actually be able to use information from an hour ago that your going to be in the same exact situation again? Highly unlikely.

[@lance862]

It's not the hand histories that they're worried about they are worried he is running ICM simulations to help determine what is unexploitable to shove as an open or over everyone else's opens.

[@tanthony298]

You can see people's ranges and they can see yours you can definitely gain a very little edge off knowing how your opponents are playing

[@robyee3325]

Why would he check the vid if it wasn’t going to help him?

[@mrhumble2937]

​@robyee3325 who cares if it helps him. Everyone has the same opportunity.

[@richboyprado]

Glad we’re bringing this to light Joe should use some of that adderall money on his hygiene

[@Lou-Meatskavitch]

It doesn't matter if you need help or not, it's against the rules to use solvers. There is a clear picture of the laptop screen, it wasn't replaying hands, it was solving. I don't think you should make a video if you yourself don't know the rules. This was a clear rule violation.

[@pennyandluckpokerclub]

THAT IS CHEATING

[@tannerandreae3080]

It's not against the rules, so how exactly is it cheating?

[@jeffreyjewell75]

The idiots at WSOP should have thought of that prior to running an event. Uh, they are kind of dealing with a lot of money…. No? 😂

[@pennyandluckpokerclub]

@@tannerandreae3080 fair, it might not be against the written rule, yet, but it's not right. not by a long shot.

[@tannerandreae3080]

@@pennyandluckpokerclub but, that doesn't make it cheating. You're talking about subjective beliefs. Cheating is objective. It's not cheating

[@unlimitedpubes]

​@@pennyandluckpokerclubyeah I'd just be careful about labeling it cheating and him a cheater when they're playing within the rules. An issue with the rules can be taken with the tournament organizers but we can't blame people who are playing perfectly within the rules. Also, I guarantee Griff got offers for coaching during it too that he likely just refused. We don't call cleats and gloves in football cheating even tho it offers an advantage a player wouldn't have without them. It's allowed within the rules and everyone is equally allowed to use those items.

[@mosshark]

""EH PIH TOHM"??? Come on, man..

[@be4stable]

lmfao

[@stevest8675]

There is no rules saying he can't use solver after the hand. An hour later. So its perfectly legal.

[@garrickmusic]

Apparently there was an announcement before every tournament that devices with solvers onscreen were ONLY allowed OUTSIDE the tournament area and on breaks. So yes, there IS a rule against using solvers between hands.

[@garrickmusic]

0:39 Pause on this image and zoom in on Tamayo's right ear, (your left) you can clearly see the stem of an airpod (trying to be hidden by the hoodie.) Dude may have been given Joe's airpod but he may have thought it was the one he knew Tamoyo was wearing and thats why he looks like he was just handed a brick of coke.

[@orangecounty2033]

The next step is, ALL the players run back & forth to the rail to watch a laptop solver during EVERY hand. All 10k people. Every Hand. What could possibly go wrong.

[@greasyguido]

In tennis (the closet scenario I can think of with this), the player can have brief words or physical queues with their coach but not full on strategy sessions. That's one of the things I like about tennis, it's one man using his training and experience to overcome his opponent during the match. I think poker should be the same. A coach can signal the player to implement a pre-planned strategy from afar but not have a full, up close conversation. That steals the "magic" from the game.

[@DrSnowBrainHealth]

WSOP stated verbally that there should be no solvers…or you would be possibly disqualified from the tournament…how they allowed a computer at the rail and it was clear that solvers were probably used inbetween hands…

[@quiksix25]

The WSOP tried to avoid controversy by not enforcing their own rules, and it did nothing but create way more controversy

[@ricewookie]

mis-pronouncing epitome generates comments and puts your videos at the top. Great work! :D

[@TheWorldAccordingtoJim]

I was on the rail and that's a bunch of crap!! There's no cheating!! I'm standing just to the right of that view by the TV Camera and they're watching the stream that was allowed..

[@Someguyonyoutube5000]

It’s not cheating but it’s against the rules and gives a player an advantage that the other player doesn’t have.

[@mrhumble2937]

​@@Someguyonyoutube5000then have someone up there

[@mrlenejo]

The Doug Polk footage on his coverage clearly shows solvers etc so yes, they did cheat. They weren't only watching the stream.

[@mrhumble2937]

@@mrlenejo no they didn't. It's not against the rules

[@scott201]

There was an announcement at the start of the WSOP... "No solvers or sims can be used....... AND there is a pic from the rail side where you can see what was on the computer, it was a sim!

[@hoodwiser7652]

It’s fucking ridiculous they allow this, at any point, let alone the final fuvking heads up match in the biggest poker event on the planet. It is insane that it is allowed.

[@BamaNick]

1. There is literally no evidence that they were talking about solver outputs. 2. Even if they were, any actual solver studied professional poker player would tell you that if anything its likely negative EV here to try to implement solver outputs when facing a loose aggro rec such as Griff 3. If they are just telling him hand histories from this event then it isn't against the rules. I would also argue it shouldn't be against the rules as both players and rails have access to the livestream. You also cant stop someone from verbally communicating that information. Sure you can implement a rule saying no showing screen displayed information to the players if you want. This is such a nothing burger for anyone actually well studied in solver outputs.

[@garrickmusic]

If these hardcore pros thought that what they were doing is negative EV, WHY arevthey doing it? Also, 0:39 Pause on this image and zoom in on Tamayo's right ear, (your left) you can clearly see the stem of an airpod. And he doesn't usually wear a hoodie, is my understanding.

[@naka3339]

everyone should have a solver in the table, this is the future of poker

[@theowl3756]

The issue is not fairness...!!! It is about violation of the Tournament Rules....LOL

[@kevinsmith968]

Don't like players getting any outside help at anytime shouldn't be able to leave the table .

[@schuylersnipez]

It was announced at beginning of tournament no solvers or sims to be used in between hands… guy should lose bracelet

[@CharlieRasch]

It maybe be against Nevada Gambling laws.

[@ilikeRUNE]

Its not a team game so shouldnt be allowed to be coached mid game.

[@jkapown]

To help eliminate controversy like at WSOP main FT, why not have RTA optional events or even RTA ONLY events w/strict simple time clock procedures, Street Poker vs. Wizards type thing or ALL wizards?

[@derbo416]

this type stuff they shouldn't be allowed. it's supposed to be a game of the players against each other with whatever knowledge of the game they have prior to sitting down. i think running sims right after the hand is really unfair.

[@wolffhenry5751]

I've been playing NLH for over 20 years and have seen the insidious way phones and computers have perverted the game. I absolutely agree that all electronic devices should be banned from the poker room, there should be no contact with the rail while play is ongoing, and masks, sunglasses, scarfs and hoodies should be banned. I realise that sounds really extreme, but steps have to be taken to return the game to one of skill, not data-crunching!!!

[@coreygumball]

Dude what about the EARPIECE!!!!!!???????LINKED UP TO HIS RAIL!

[@brianriley8553]

Ban leaving the table and communicating with the rail beyond cheering.

[@jeff13379001]

I think in future events, all players must be able to endure William Kassouf's speech play to win the main event. Say what you want about that annoying Brit, but I would take him over what's happening this year. Bring back the psychological aspect of the game!

[@tonyswe9463]

People have been getting coach over 10 years now; for final table in main event.

[@paule1624]

Pro's should be fuckin embarrassed. Need a whole crew and a computer running solvers to defeat an amateur player. Horrendous look for poker. Pathetic that WSOP couldn't put a stop to this immediately. like what the hell

[@rustdcamo9561]

3 people with a solver evaluating an opponents hand plays and using predictive solvers to adjust betting ranges accordingly is absolutely a disgusting, unsportsmanlike, situation. If you really think this is a sport, then letting the players demonstrate their capabilities is the most sportsmanlike behavior. At what point do you stop this behavior if you allow it in the final table. Do you allow coaches from day one, where everybody can have a coach watching over them and instead of 10,000 people in a room you now have 20,000?

[@darylmixan8170]

A solver helps with overal gameplay much more than any single hand or 10 hand group... Its like having the best football strategy in senerios within the rules, your current score, and time remaining... It doesn't give you a For Sure first down play... It doesn't consider the previous 20 minutes, your personal, or your opponent's personel... It also considers you to execute... what does that mean in poker... Not giving off tells or being exploited.

[@supersmoo7377]

Alex.. You spoke a lot but didn't say much... The main points here are 1) Griff had the option to confer with coaches in real-time, and he didn't. 2) People are complaining as if Tamayo was getting real-time information on hands not yet played. He wasn't. He was getting information on hands THAT ALREADY HAPPENED.

[@goodnightjoe9809]

Players leave the table and go to the rail after deciding to go "all in". I never see players go to the rail while they play a hand. This video doesn't make sense and is trying to stir controversy. To say they are cheating is absurd.

[@docmartinjnr4281]

I can compare this like a gladiator fight. Where one side supporting and the other supporting and handing the gladiator weapons.

[@artteachersmith3497]

Bottom line for THIS year’s event, as you said, “…it’s not against the rules”(computers on the rail). So logically it wasn’t cheating.

[@mrlenejo]

It's against the laws of the state though...

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Obviously no computers on the rail! How is this even a question? Sh*t has to not only be fair, but be seen to be fair.

[@CKBRAZIL]

Poker is an individual sport. Period.

[@RigelZM]

this ruined the game. did tennis player allowed to interact with coaches during game. did pro esport gamer interact with gamers during games..

[@rasmus5341]

Mind-boggling how some doesn't view this as cheating. In what world is this not gaining advantages by an external source. Jeeeeeesus

[@biancarose5180]

Doug Polk posted an audio clip where she specifically says no to all he did. So yes it was announced. He is not a winner but a dude that wasn’t charged w the rule he broke and used help to win. He will never have the respect the greats have.

[@Murphyyyyyyyy]

The announcement of not using solvers before the tournament was clear. The rules are clear.

[@Ibetiwon]

What about his ear piece?

[@tannerandreae3080]

He wasn't getting RTA. The stream was on a 1 hr delay, so he wasn't getting feedback until at least an hour after a hand happened.

[@dinodoljanin2713]

So lets be real... U know how much wrong it is to use solvers on the rail. Poker wizzard is your sponsor. We have a saying in my country "dog isnt barking bcs of the village"

[@AceXav-m7q]

As a vet of the game. Completely un fair. Its knowledge as a solo that should help you win. Not people in the stands playing

[@jorejaha]

it is cheating and the wsop let it happen.

[@mitchgreen4994]

equivalent to playing with a solver ✌️

[@Socom2SoLid]

It’s not cheating, but it should be frowned upon going forward. I think they should also have the spectators back, and a section above the players at on main stage. Preventing players from touching spectators and talking to them close and personal. Good win though, you can’t take that away from him, getting through that isn’t easy at all, and real player knows that. Congrats tomayo 8/3

[@cryptocomedy9327]

Yeah. I thought this was bizarre. People were told they couldn’t have their phones on their rail the day before. I thought this was shady as well

[@Matt-yw9sw]

Playing for that much money at stake he shouldnt even be allowed to talk to the rail for more than a handshake 5 sec encounter

[@michaelb4090]

Let’s stop calling them coaches it makes zero difference who they are

[@MaverickTomcat69]

PMSL with the likes of McKemuppet and Tonkaamuppet in your corner ..

[@santaclause3487]

This is so stupid. He can look at all the charts he wants, isn’t going to make a difference cause they don’t know what griffs ranges are. Pre flop shoving charts would make a difference if they were super short

[@dotterel]

theyd make bad moves sometimes, even with solver, but theyd never do a dumb move. i dont play poker, but this takes out the human factor of why we watch real people instead of just bots at a table.

[@loco4dogg]

Rec player could have gotten coaches sure but the time it takes to really understand SIMs and more isn't learned in an afternoon.

[@nicholi2789]

If people want to get up in arms with Tomayo then they need to also get pissed at all the other pros at final tables all summer long who had coaches with laptops on the rail. Nobody said anything to Kristen Foxen who also had a coach on the rail with a laptop in plain view.

[@scrubfive9239]

It's fine if they decide to make this against the rules going forward. However, I'm not a fan of retroactive punishment, if it wasn't clearly stated in the rules and explained to players that this is not allowed, then you can't punish the player for finding ways to get an edge. This is how it always works with anything, smart competitors will find ways to gain an advantage over others within the confines of the current rules. Once it is discovered and decided upon by the community and/or entity in charge of setting and enforcing these rules that it is unfair, THEN it becomes banned within the rules. Unprecedented techniques/practices/ideas etc... set the new precedents.

[@merlinrakow3607]

There should be no information given to during or after the days play. Shouldn't be allowed to view hands until after the tournament is over.

[@JackDaker]

Oh please...the poker casuals that are shocked and disgusted by this makes me puke. Tamayo and his ilk are professional gamblers! They will do whatever it takes to find that edge or game the system...its part of their DNA. The fault lies with the WSOP organizers...they should have banned/stopped the "cheating" from the start. I'm sure there will be rules announcement for next year at WSOP main event final table...banning laptops, earbuds, etc. with severe penalties for violation.

[@nitthegrit7544]

Im in the school of thought that says no aids of any kind. No friends coaching you, no laptops or tablets on the rail going over anything. Just sit down and play. Also, shame on you alex for the clickbait title. You're better than that.

[@nuklearwinter2892]

It’s against the spirit of the game and such activity should be banned. They shouldn’t have allowed this in the first place, what a joke.

[@206253ernie]

There shouldn't be a coach gambling.