CHEATING The System: Italian Edition

[@nonickl6436]

I'm very impressed by how frequently you mange to upload, seeing as how high quality your videos are.

[@FootballIconic]

Thanks man!

[@TuraisWorldwide]

@@FootballIconic do you edit your videos too?

[@aflow-]

@@TuraisWorldwide no, I don't

[@FootballIconic]

@@TuraisWorldwide yep :)

[@purpela334]

"Fixing" in normal world: Repair something broken to be good. "Fixing" in football world:

[@Aikisbest]

I get what you mean, but if I let the joke deliberatily go over my head for a moment Im going to note that it probably would be a "repair" or something good to the one ordinating the match-fix, or it could just refer to the result being "Fixed" in place (or 'pre-determined', at least which team wins).

[@jjrc7424]

yh it has multiple meanings well done

[@kaneki_yeager167]

My respect for Colina skyrocketed when I heard how he refused to fix matches when the scandal broke out back in the day . He was already a great referee but since that day , he has always been my favourite

[@Raver-1601]

GOAT referee for a reason

[@Mrmhibbert]

Yes... I watched the documentary on Netflix with the match fixing and Colina was a great!

[@menesebastiao2468]

Shows how low our standards are for referees lmao

[@Mrmhibbert]

@@menesebastiao2468 because he wouldn't fix games and stood up to all the general managers and top players? That's not a low standard... I'm sure it could have cost him his career to not go along, just like it did for many other Italian referees

[@mikhailgorbachev7851]

@@Mrmhibbert not just his career, he was threatened with being "disappeared"

[@renegade4451]

Why didn't you mention how Didier Deschamps took charge of the depleted Juventes side in 2006-07 Serie B season, whipped them back into shape after a bad start of season, won Serie B and promotion to the top division with 3 games in hand, and moved on as soon as his job was done? Amongst all things Deschamps has achieved, helping his old club out at their lowest point is one of the most respectable feats ever!!

[@NIDELLANEUM]

I do remember that it felt weird how Deschamps left Juventus a few games before the season would end

[@aldobonaso3481]

if I recall correctly, Deschamps left Juve at the end of that season because of a disagreement with the Juve board. Years later he said it was one of his biggest regrets, leaving Juve at that moment. He had a chance to return Juve to glory in serie A, but missed his chance because of a disagreement.

[@dariocroce2864]

many players stayed despite the team getting relegated so it was still a top team, not that impressive

[@artibansTales]

Juventus alias “Rubentus” that comes from Italian verb “rubare”, which means TO STEAL! is it clear, innit? 👍

[@chenhao778]

Peharps with some fixing.

[@animeshpati5525]

Calciopoli was the downfall of Italian football, before it all of the best players played for Italian teams, u had nedved, Maldini, cafu, rivaldo , Zidane in 98 and more

[@FuzzyDlop]

Rivaldo was a finished player when he played in the Serie A.

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

@@FuzzyDlop so? Like all the best players in the world didn’t play in Italy for decades before the scandal.

[@namanmhta]

​@@FuzzyDlop he was a bench warmer and a backup for rui costa

[@AlexOjideagu2]

Serie A was already dying by 2006. Ac Milan and Juventus were keeping it alive.

[@diegodessy9700]

You mean Farsopoli? It was a farce orchestrated by Moratti, Berlusconi and accolades to get rid of Juve and Moggi

[@NIDELLANEUM]

It feels like Serie A has yet to recover from Calciopoli. Italian football post-2006 feels much different than the one before 2006.

[@hellyeahdude]

@Abdulaziz Mohammed tbf both teams in thier history changed the badge multiple times

[@artibansTales]

Juventus alias “Rubentus” that comes from Italian verb “rubare”, which means TO STEAL! is it clear, innit? 👍

[@NIDELLANEUM]

@@artibansTales cringe

[@artibansTales]

@@NIDELLANEUM so It is called. 👌

[@8792999]

Which is all Inter's fault.. Sore losers.. Inter Merda

[@badasstasticusbadass4908]

I would say... matchfixing is something that exist in every football league, however, i feel like the Serie A was the one that was caught with the pants down at the end of the day, and the one that got hammered the most, considering how Italy used to be a powerhouse in football during the 90's and early 2000's before the Calciopoli happened. Even today, there's rumors that another Calciopoli could happend again due to Juventus performance when they were winning Serie A tittles like no tomorrow from 2012 up to 2020.

[@vetonmorina7990]

They were the strongest side in those years, never in doubt about that. And the ownership is new and they won't do the same mistake twice

[@xdwwxd]

Real Madrid 🤣

[@badasstasticusbadass4908]

@@xdwwxd Or certain UEFA Champions match of Barcelona vs Chelsea...

[@badasstasticusbadass4908]

@Juve One word "Plusvalenza"

[@badasstasticusbadass4908]

@Juve low that to 8 tittles and a potential relegation to Serie B alongside Napoli if the allegations turns out to be true, but i am pretty sure that Juve will be fine if they bride the right people as usual.

[@frafrafrafrafra]

1980: Totonero, 1982: Italy wins the world cup. 2005: Calciopoli, 2006: Italy wins the world cup.

[@jeffersonott4357]

This guy is a really great presenter. Interesting topics, good story teller, good voice, just a little bit of spice. Well done!

[@FootballDrawn]

I still remember when Calciopoli was being revealed. I was following the transcripts from the Goal website like a madman in summer 2006. Great video, as always, my guy ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽

[@moumenrezaei1330]

good ol days

[@NikkoNikko98]

Seeing you too interact is wholesome as a fan of both of you

[@FootballDrawn]

@@NikkoNikko98 Hi Nikko. Thank you for the comment. Pleasure seeing you here as well. Much love :))

[@rhizoidx]

I remember turning into an expert in Italian sport jurisdiction in 2006-2007. Anything to honorably defend Juventus 😂

[@FuzzyDlop]

@@rhizoidx There's nothing to defend about the most disgusting club in sports history.

[@majinmanbhakun6540]

Please make longer videos like 30-40 mins we love all the small and big details anyways love ur videos and the commentary keep up the good work my guy

[@FootballIconic]

I guess it just depends on how long the video needs to be get the point accross. Can be 15 like this one or 30 like the Liverpool one. But I'll be making longer ones in the future for sure

[@majinmanbhakun6540]

@@FootballIconic I understand I'm just saying we can't get enough of ur content

[@mamadynabe7304]

Great Video Man! I’d like to see a how good was Javier Zanetti, and analysis on Anchelotti’s Milan team, and Germany’s 2014 World Cup win. Also on Jose’s Inter

[@rhizoidx]

Die hard Juventus fan here since 1993. I would like to thank you for sharing this video, and generally speaking no objection here. In fact, I would like to thank you for three things: 1. Highlighting the fact that other clubs were involved, and not just Juve. 2. inter escaping further investigation and punishment due to the statute of limitations 3. Mentioning that Juve re-emerged in 2011/2012 -> and even in that season, all Juve's rivals were complaining of preferential decisions. Which is quite ironic considering Moggi, Bettega, and Giraudo were all out of the picture, and that back in 2006 inter's then Chairman famously claimed that Serie A was now clean and honest from now on. Cheers mate.

[@FuzzyDlop]

There was no statue of limitations, Inter escaped because they weren't involved at all. Juventus fans are the most pathetic people and ever not to mention the most dishonest and removed from reality. They can't accept the fact they wasted their life supporting the most corrupted team in sports history. It's factual that Inter wasn't involved and that won't change because Juventus fans want it. Pathetic that you're still trying to manipulate the truth to this day. Perfect representation of how digusting Juventus and its fans are.

[@rhizoidx]

@@FuzzyDlop Pathetic that your delusional fan base (whatever it is) just wants to blame Juventus for their own failures. Where were the referees in 1999? Where were the referees in Perugia in 2000? Where were the referees in 2001? Where were the referees in 2004? I'm sure you saw the netflix special. Let's fact check some of the games. Game 1: Lecce-Parma - The game has nothing at all to do with Juventus but this game allowed Fiorentina to survive Serie A in 2005. The accusation is that Moggi controlled referee De Santis fixed the match at the request of Moggi after Della Valle (Fiorentina owner) asked Moggi for help. Moggi actually can’t stand De Santis and De Santis can’t stand Juventus. It was De Santis (admitted Interista) that disallowed a legitimate Juventus goal in the Italian Supercup costing Juve the trophy and handing it to inter wrongfully. All intercepted phone calls regarding this game showed Della Valle contacting Bergamo (referee designer) and Carraro (FIGC president) and Mazzei (FIGC Vice President) directly with no mention of Luciano Moggi. Game 2: Juventus-Udinese - the actual fixed game was Udinese-Bologna the week before. The idea was for the Moggi controlled referee to give yellow cards to Udinese players that were already carrying yellow cards so that they couldn’t play against Juventus. The players handed yellow cards that day were Pinzi and Di Michele. In actual fact neither was carrying yellows and both were on the field against Juventus the following match day. Game 3: Juventus-Sampdoria - here the accusation was that the Moggi controlled referee allowed an offside goal to stand granting Juventus a 1-0 win over Sampdoria. The game actually ended 0-1 for Sampdoria with Aimo Diana scoring an offside goal. Please search the game on KZbin.

[@germanogirardelli]

Muntari's goal. Pjanic's slap. The plusvalenze. You're right, serie a really isn't clean at all

[@rhizoidx]

@@germanogirardelli ...Matri's wrongfully disallowed goal for Juve in the same game when Muntari's goal was disallowed. Let's keep it moving bro, I got this.

[@robertocioffi2523]

@@rhizoidx doesnt matter. With Muntari's goal Milan was up 2-0. The game would have been over.

[@joenaz4311]

I love your content! From the tantalisingly juicy stories to the production value, as well as your fantastic humour, it's all extremely consistent. Consistently very good, I may add! Thanks, keep it up ✊

[@moisesblandon9136]

A discount? On a fiat? Had me laughing for a while

[@NIDELLANEUM]

Riding in my Fiat, you really had to see it

[@FootballIconic]

😂

[@07ORO]

Love your videos. Informative but also hilarious! I lost it at @11:16

[@hendersongalbreath1072]

"I can't lie...I'm snitching." 🤣 I've been binging the channel for a week and I'm absolutely loving it. From one Red (Liverpool) to another (United) - well done and keep 'em coming!

[@lawrencema667]

5:47 Ironically the Germans themselves were accused of match fixing along with Austria during the group stages of that very same World Cup, where both teams time-wasted for most of the match, preserving a German lead and letting both teams advance at the expense of Algeria (See the Disgrace of Gijon)

[@hi-ls6lt]

Isn’t that the reason why all the last group games are played at the same time in the same group

[@lawrencema667]

@@hi-ls6lt This match was the reason FIFA implemented that rule

[@hi-ls6lt]

@@lawrencema667 thank you for clarifying ☺️

[@lawrencema667]

@@hi-ls6lt The funniest/most cruel part of this story is that Algeria wouldn’t make the Round of 16 of a World Cup until 2014, only to get knocked out by Germany again

[@hi-ls6lt]

@@lawrencema667 I remember that game. I thought they gave them a good go though, but then again I was ten and I don’t remember much from that age, so whether that was true 🤷‍♀️

[@KurisuKun]

Man I was so devastated when Juve got relegated. That was my favourite side of all time, led by my favourite player of all time, Alex Del Piero (thanks for using his face as a thumbnail for match fixing btw). Crazy stuff.

[@kojoemma1]

Great content as always. Would be glad if you made a Luka Modric biography for us. His time at Madrid from worst to best

[@spaceyouppy]

Banger video, been killing it recently

[@FootballIconic]

Cheers, buddy!

[@TravisAndrew-dw9zv]

Imagine KDB in the Championship you say???? May not be that far away now ;)

[@Shane39]

I mean if Utd. Are relegated maybe Maguire will actually defende for once. Jokes aside, match manipulations are are a very dark patch in any sport or game. I wonder how many of these scandals didn't come out and we are so emotionally attached to this game maybe we aren't ready. Great video mate :)

[@Prodnoir]

My favourite youtuber uploads What a way to end a bad week 😆😆

[@notfunny007]

Wow the username and pfp shows

[@menesebastiao2468]

Couldn't tell

[@ElTioPental]

Nice vid man, as a calcio fan calciopoli is one of the most Interesting yet shameful episodes in Italian football, even more than totonero because there's always this feeling that we only know the tip of the iceberg. If you ever make a detailed video on it I'll gladly watch it

[@poqqsgaming5929]

Brilliant video as always

[@CaptainCreampie69]

If a team is found guilty of cheating/match fixing, the owners should have their assets seized and thrown in prison for at minimum 10 years, the club should be relegated to the lowest tier of professional football in their nations, players contracts get locked indefinitely until they get back into the tier they were removed from then the time starts counting again. You can’t trade players and have to continue paying them the same salary all that time. If a player retires, he isn’t allowed to play in any professional league be it beach football, futsal or field football. Make the penalty so heavy that people are terrified of doing it. That would fix it. As for officials getting caught, you seize all their assets and put them in prison for 10 years as well, they have to start from scratch as if they were just born.

[@AtlantisFootball]

Insane video my guy 🙏🏻

[@dadaMJ_1]

Best Football Channel on KZbin of All Time. 💯💯❤️❤️👑🔥🔥

[@gandalf_thegrey]

I honestly though you are gonna talk about Mussolini intimidating everyone, including the own national team, to win the WC in the 30s. But this is also great

[@luisteran3182]

You should make a video on the Villarato in Spanish football, for the last 15 years the statistics of Barcelona when it comes to red cards and penalties are absurd, between 2016-2018 they went 76 la liga games without a penalty against them, and how the media has covered this absurd statistics

[@StoutProper]

That's because they kept the ball for 2 years and didn't have ramos playing for them. When you have 90% possession you're not going to give away many fouls

[@luisteran3182]

@@StoutProper yeah possession allow them to not receive a single penalty in 76 games in la liga, with la liga refs, meanwhile they go to the UCL and with the same Possession but with UEFA refs they have a normal ratio of penalties, statistics don’t lie, in UEFA they have normal statistics for a big team, in spain they have absurd statistics

[@StoutProper]

@@luisteran3182 that’s bs in those Terri years they didn’t get any pens audit them in the cl either, plus they’re playing better sides in the call than in la liga. Just cos Ramos got sent off every other game for practicing his MMA on the pitch 😂

[@luisteran3182]

@@StoutProper bruh 💀, I’m giving facts and data and your come up with this bullshit

[@karimrachid8738]

​@@StoutProper that's because they got caught doing shit worse than Calciopoli. They went straight to the top 2 of the refereeing committee an paid him a lot of money.

[@tacostastegood3720]

I felt a little odd reading this title right after the UCL finals but I was glad to see no matchfixing claims regarding that match

[@StoutProper]

Apart from benzemas goal being ruled out

[@oshiokpekhaitheodore7305]

Awesome stuff man. I subscribed as soon as I watch your video for the first time and I’ve been binge watching ever since! You the best!

[@arnabthreethreesixfivethre4841]

"discount on fiat "thing was hilarious!

[@chikish]

4:00 *'Getting ripped off when you're trying to rip people off is very tough'* It's not tough, it's poetic justice.

[@FootballIconic]

Yep. Was being sarcastic 😂

[@footballchannel8430]

the 2005 06 juventus team was ridiclous: Zlatan, del piero, nedved, cannavaro, thuram, zambrotta, vieira, emerson, buffon

[@CarlosHernandez-zk1pe]

Loving the Videos! Much love from LA!

[@massimodelpaggio7527]

Fede it's just cool af and hearing a saffa accent covering these topics and killing your videos!

[@Sin_Dre70]

maybe also talk about the 1996 final Juventus is accused of using sport enhanching drugs but never punished by uefa

[@artibansTales]

Juventus alias “Rubentus” that comes from Italian verb “rubare”, which means TO STEAL! is it clear, innit? 👍

[@FuzzyDlop]

Thuram and Del Piero along with several other Juventus players were constantly using drugs. Thuram would have normal legs one sunday and 2 weeks later massive legs all of a sudden. They were caught using them anyway but covered it up.

[@artibansTales]

@@FuzzyDlop DelPiero legs were just like those of Roberto Carlos in 1996. 😬🤔

[@Saskobest]

@@artibansTalesDel Piero sued the people who accused him and i think he won the case, there were indeed investigations of Juventus and they were cleared

[@NikhilRakesh]

Hiii I actually requested this for this video . And you actually did it !!!! Yay 😂😂😂😂😂

[@SkiTiNo]

Italian here: great video, very accurate! And congrats on your pronunciation, it's nice and understandable!

[@eliorelite9230]

Love the videos really interesting. underrated channel!

[@SebaDE]

German matchfixing in the 70s was Something too

[@shresthmehta4485]

Didn't knew MKBHD had football channel

[@mrmeeseeks2534]

0:55 Imagine getting relegated on 91 points 😳

[@DanielGiuseppeDiNiro]

Calciopoli was a scandal not only related to football: Moggi was the head of a sort of "organization", and he was able to grant favours even to politicians and high ranked militaries; the gifts were many, and definitely not only "discounts" on Fiat products; we're talking about Rolex, Cars, Houses... even better jobs. That dude literally had two policemen as "bodyguards" You're right, many other teams had a line of comunication with the referees, but Moggi was the one who controlled the whole thing, and the one you had to ask to fix the game. E.g. Inter president, Giacinto Facchetti, indeed had lines of comunications with the referees - which still was illegal - but there is no proof of match fixing Moreover, 2004 is just the year the investigation started, but it's pretty clear that this situation started way before 2004

[@gusvanskike4889]

Loving the new beard my guy, looking sharp

[@FootballIconic]

Cheers haha

[@humorbranco69]

FC Porto is still Match fixing in Portugal but their mafia won't let them get relegated

[@Duckquack6]

Hi football iconic I love your content it covers really good topics with interesting facts for an idea could you do a brief run through of each World Cup personally I love old football it was much more entertaining

[@Snaptack123]

This channel is amazing 👏

[@lucaslonchampt613]

One day, we'll see the French edition

[@anakinstarlord]

Actually something similar happened with OM in 1993.

[@lucaslonchampt613]

@@anakinstarlord Hence why I talked about the French edition

[@anakinstarlord]

@@lucaslonchampt613 sorry I misunderstand your comment. 👍👍

[@moncefecw3131]

Man I love your content

[@cbarclay99]

Much of the ill-feeling in Italy towards Juventus comes from beliefs that they have bribed refs for decades. Roma fans feel that the 1980-81 Scudetto was stolen from them. (Moggi handled transfers for Roma at one stage in his career and many fans believe he left Roma when it was found that he was being bribed to do favourable deals for Juve). Then in 1981-82, Fiorentina fans feel that they were cheated by Juve bribing refs. These clubs are not clubs that have won many Scudetti - Roma 3 and Fiorentina 2 - so any loss is keenly felt. Fiorentina fans felt particularly insulted when their star player in 1990 Roberto Baggio was sold to Juve. Going further back to the 60s and 70s, English clubs have suffered at the hands of Italian clubs and bent referees: Inter scoring directly from an indirect free-kick vs Liverpool, Leeds vs Milan and Derby vs Juventus.

[@Alex-mq6qi]

There's probably match fixing in every league. Madrid usually plays with favorable refereeing, and it shows a lot when in a particular game they couldn't or wouldn't get that advantage. On the topic of Spanish football there's been a disgustingly high amount of scandals that have blown up in recent years and the problem is that they usually blow up far too late for there to be any action to be taken besides punishing the club leadership

[@Ameanfist]

Great video, bro. 👏👌

[@villepenttinen5908]

I love these videos bro, keep up the good work! Idea for a future video, as a Laziali my hero is Ciro Immobile, any chance you could make a video about him in the future?

[@joshuasharkey7338]

If you want to know more about calciopoli it’s on Netflix series called bad sports and it’s episode 3. It’s a great documentary

[@michaelannan8601]

Great Insight on Calciopoli. There is a brilliant Netflix documentary on the show Bad Sport which focuses on the exact case and goes into good detail about it. For those who to watch it is the 3rd Episode on the show.

[@fisgasfighties]

I would suggest that you look into the Portuguese football scandal "Golden Whistle"

[@jbagger331]

Hellas Verona won the Scudetto because of refs being assigned randomly to games, then the Italian league went back to the old system, Preben Elkjær has some funny stories about how in the following season all the refs were fixing games against Verona

[@noahhoward5328]

Hidden beard just appeared on cam let’s go. Running that facial hair

[@MrReese]

You should also mention that several of Juventus' key players did NOT leave the club when they were relegated and stayed to get Juve back to glory!

[@thatguy6789]

The real story from the 2006 scandal was home inter Milan got away with it and had former executives on the board of the people investigating the fixing

[@emmychux8517]

The Mbappe joke was brutal 😩😂😂😂😂

[@nabylad2194]

Italians have always been suspicious of bribery and match fixing, just look at 1965 Liverpool vs inter Milan Semi final of European cup , that was one of the most worst refereeing in the history of the European cup

[@Mad_Intellect]

And when Juve beat Liverpool(Heysel I think), foul was well outside the box, you can see it in the live play, not even replay, the ref gives a penalty and Juve won 1-0, with Platini(another allegedly corrupt scumbag) taking the winning penalty. Doesn't help the Italian image that they basically created/revolutionized "modern" organized crime.

[@FrePado]

@@Mad_Intellect Liverpool should have been disqualified from the final after the Heysel incident caused by his supporters.

[@Mad_Intellect]

@@FrePado All English teams were suspended from Europe for a minute, YEARS, what more do you want? What I said still stands...imo the game should have been abandoned after that incident though.

[@FrePado]

@@Mad_Intellect yes, I agree, That game shouldn't have been played. In that situation the referee made the right decision to make sure Liverpool wouldn't win that game.

[@Mad_Intellect]

@@FrePado 2 wrongs don't make a right.

[@francomartini4328]

I will never forget an incident in a Juve-Inter match probably in the 1999-2000 season during which Ronaldo ran into the Juve penalty area with the ball at his feet only to be fouled by a defender who put his hand square in the middle of Ronaldo's chest to block him and made no attempt to play the ball. It was clear obstruction but strangely the ref didn't see anything. About a minute later, Alessandro del Piero ran into Inter's box and fell over without being touched and the ref awarded an immediate penalty. Juve won the match 1-0. When Calciopoli came out it all made sense especially after reading the transcript of a police telephone intercept in which Moggi says to a referee, "It's not just about what you see. It's also about what you don't see."

[@franz7933]

It was 1997/1998. And you should watch even Inter Juventus where Taribo West jumped on Inzaghi and the referee did NOT give a penalty for Juventus. Or even Lazio Inter where Moriero dives and the referee gives a penalty to Inter. Or the other 14 games where the referees helps Inter to win the title

[@DuckSwagington]

One thing to note is that Fiat owns a few luxury car manufacturers, including Ferrari, so a discount on any Fiat car also extends to Ferrari's.

[@m_almeida_9955]

Would be cool if you did the portuguese football corruption scandal "Apito Dourado" (Golden Whistle) . It went on during and before "Calciopoli" and to this day the clubs and parties envolved haven't been charged or gone to prison.

[@patrikviera2007]

Laughed harder than I should have on that Mbappe joke.

[@gavunku]

Who they were going for was Berlusconi but they couldn't manage to do it(that boiled till the bunga bunga scandal). Moggi was the scapegoat but it also had to do with the fact that italian football was not economically healthy and that was the first step which was taken. Also calciopoli comes from tangentopoli. And fun fact, the owner(Moratti) of the only big team which came out clean with the whole "cardboard scudetto" situation,(Inter) coincidentally had very strong connections with the leadership of Telecom which is the phone company who cooperated with the autorities intercepting all the incriminating calls.

[@PorscheWilliamsformulaone2026]

The 2006 calciopoli scandal mentioned juventus milan florentina and lazio while the 1980 totonero scandal sent milan and lazio to serie b while avellino bologna and perugia gave out a five point penalty for the following season!!!

[@4rfrgr4]

Never thought from your old videos you were black ,happy to have a fellow brother killing it on KZbin!

[@Forgedmaniac]

Great video as always! How’s the discord server coming??

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

The football scandal that brought Italian football to its knees. After that the Serie A lost their star power and credibility. To be fair, Italian football is recovering from it. The only grace about the Calciopoli scandal is Italy winning the World cup and Colina refusing to take part in match fixing.

[@scemochilegge777]

Nowdays only few Teams really fix matches, is nearly impossible to tell wich teams there are now, but I’m sure they are still around.

[@Micfri300]

I feel like at least us italians own up to our errors. The 2002 world cup was scandalous and south korea have never admitted to being corrupt. And tbh if all leagues had the same amount of income to that made in the premier league matchfixing wouldn't be a thing because players wages would be healthy in the lower divisions.

[@zionbaptiste1292]

Hey, love your vids man💪🏾. Can you do a future video on David Beckham. Like how good was he or if he can even be considered a legend? Cheers.

[@paulcharlesmorphy6427]

Big ups from Sweden

[@indiekiddrugpatrol3117]

Fiat at this time owned Lancia, Alfa Romeo and Ferrari I doubt those referees were getting discounts for Fiat Puntos 🤣

[@gregoriuspascalis500]

Inter Milan is the only beneficiary here, so many people actually thought they were the one behind Calciopoli scandal, after all they dominate the serie a after the whole thing

[@FuzzyDlop]

A club can't "start the whole thing" because to unearth things like these it always takes independent investigations. Not to mention that if there was a calciopoli scandal it's because Juventus was and is the most corrupted club in sports history(even now their president has ties to the mafia). Inter dominated the Serie A and won the triplete because they had the best team in the world with the best players in the world not to mention the best manager at the time(Mourinho). And even Mancini was good before him. At the end of the day, on the pitch, there was never anything wrong happening in Inter games that would benificiate them. But in almost EVERY Juventus game, i saw the most disgusting things ever. To the point where you questioned if you were being paranoid and you actually saw what you just saw(keep in mind in the 90s you couldn't just go on youtube and rewatch something crazy you just saw live on TV).

[@gregoriuspascalis500]

@@FuzzyDlop Juve is not completely innocent, but it is still too much for Juve to be relegated, the judge even later admit that it was a wrong decision because the season is about to start and he is pressed to give the verdict. You think a club can't start the whole thing? Maybe not but Inter president Moratti is not a simple man either, being a president of Inter is just one of his many identity.

[@ChrisR91]

As a longtime Juve fan, I was heartbroken when they got relegated to Serie B. They had talented/skilled players (my favorite till this day and my idol: Zlatan) and they lost almost all of them but I never gave up on the club.

[@chakahtito]

Love this Chanel. Good job also can you please make a video on Javier Hernandez (Chicharito)

[@eyadhady3100]

Great vid keep up the good work

[@JFP1988]

Lol, the fact the Juventus' manager actually stated that the club is not cheating tells you everything you need to know. I have never heard of a club manager saying this in any other club before, it's just a given.

[@gallonthegreat7036]

Damn now imagine how long the vid would be if he ever covers Mexican/Brazilian football fixing/scandal

[@FootballIconic]

Definitely going to look into them!

[@menesebastiao2468]

Brazilian football 😆

[@reverseflash882]

I would love to see a vid on 2015 barca and 2010 inter

[@edjon5744]

I know its too early to say anything about him, but what are your thoughts on Broja? I got the albanian bias but he's honestly really talented

[@EuroGuy85]

Don't forget that at the time Juve put Pessotto in charge of turning the club around and he almost killed himself when he jumped from the club's building

[@bluepearl_22]

To this day I remain convinced that the Barca 6-1 PSG UCL game was fixed.

[@Reyalis3]

Nottingham Forest playoff game yesterday....

[@NickyG_vz]

Scudetti* Mr. Iconic is a man of culture

[@nakata18]

Although mostly factually correct, that summer of 2006, the Italy team went to the WC with the knowledge of the scandal even though it wasn’t official. That somehow helped to create a good team spirit among the players

[@naasiroow]

The farm joke got me spitting out my drink.

[@Jack-xd7rh]

2009 barca vs Chelsea was 100% fixed

[@casper6405]

I would love a sort of tropico style football game where its all about corruption and using the most dirty and corrupt methods to win. Like match fixing or using bribes to get the league or any other trophy like the WC or Ucl immediately. And if you fail or get caught you get relegated or banned from certain tournaments or point deductions etc. It would be a very fun game tbh i would play that

[@rwalker0130]

If I was a star player I would have stayed with Juventus during the relegation. Show loyalty while basically taking a year off in the farmer's league and concentrating on my international play and training. Hopefully they team and fans would remember me for that.

[@daniaaal]

Except that when you’re a top player, you always want to compete against the best. It’s understandable that those players wanted to leave.

[@rwalker0130]

@@daniaaal idk man tell that to Neymar and Mbappe lol

[@daniaaal]

@@rwalker0130 haha fair point. Although its not quite the same since juventus weren’t able to pay high wages for the players after the relegation

[@robertoflores9080]

My man went full savage at the end against Ligue 1 😂

[@luchosito-d9i]

those events were 25-26 years apart, it's about time italy revealed another football scandal XD

[@allanransom8518]

I'd like to see a follow-up involving the match fixing accusations of Evangelos Marinakis, now that Forrest is promoted and that's in the news again.

[@priscadecoteau7988]

Nahhh the mbappe joke😂😂