Dealing with that charging situation one time would be the last time I ever did that again. Imagine having to deal with that in the middle of the night...Sticking with gas for anything to take out of town.
@JonZimmerman-t3e2 ай бұрын
Ford lighting can only get 65 miles towing
@jefflamb2900Ай бұрын
@@JonZimmerman-t3e no way!?! I guess the ones they have at work only get 220km in the winter
@SnappyWasHereАй бұрын
I have one of these and tow all the time. I never have to tow more than 180miles round trip so it is perfect for me. Never charge away from home. I used to tow distance all the time and it wouldn’t work for me then but now it’s perfect. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. Awesome never having to get it serviced or waste time at a gas station!
@MichaelTroulis20 күн бұрын
What do you tow? I'm thinking about getting one of these to tow my 1500 lb pop-up trailer.
@SnappyWasHere20 күн бұрын
@ I’ve got two enclosed trailers. One 14’ which weighs about 3k lbs and gets me 220ish miles of range. And a 18’ which weighs 8-9k but I only get 180-200 miles of range with it. That’s on two lanes running 60-65mph. Plenty of power and the truck weighs so much it handles them awesome.
@MichaelTroulis20 күн бұрын
@@SnappyWasHere Thanks. Very helpful.
@TheVespap200e2 ай бұрын
While that was disappointing! Those charging stations are a real embarrassment to the EV community. I thought for sure that truck would have been able to make the full loop. In winter time it might not even make to the first charging station. FellsSadMan!
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
The truck MAY have made the full loop at 60 mph but I was a little risky lol and ya I mean those are just the chargers that are around me. I believe in Moncton (2 hours away) there are 200kWh charger but the fastest ones here are only 100kWh. the sad part if those 100kWh are brand new. spent all that money putting in slow chargers.
@jefflamb29002 ай бұрын
Great video. I wonder what the range would be with the heat pumping during the winter.
@newscoulomb37052 ай бұрын
The truck looked like it definitely would have made the full loop without stopping to charge, and it absolutely would have if he had leveled the trailer like he does for all his other reviews and tests.
@newscoulomb37052 ай бұрын
@@jefflamb2900 A heat pump barely makes a 5% difference on EVs that are twice as efficient in normal driving and eight times more efficient than what was showcased here. In other words, having a heat pump would have gained less than 1 km range on this loop, even in the dead of winter.
@havnfunb42 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures a few kms up the road there are 350 kw Electrify Canada chargers that would have worked very well. Carleton Mall beside Tim Hortons. Electrify Canada has been putting in new chargers in different areas usually close to a Canadian Tire store. NB is much better than NS when it comes to charging infrastructure. Still needs to improve though. I plan on picking up a Silverado EV LT when I can and trade in my 21 Sierra.
@jasonjason98662 ай бұрын
The heavier the tow vehicle stabilizes towing. It's not what you can pull, but what you can stop.
@thesandman7752 ай бұрын
Except even then, most large trailers worth a shit have trailer brakes.
@kelviskelvis7140Ай бұрын
@@thesandman775 but in this case the guy did not use regen brakes. You set the trailer brakes to a lower setting. A 9klb truck will be stable pulling a trailer.
@TIREDOFEVIL2 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head, if you are an urban cowboy, never plan to go more than a mild jaunt into the countryside, go ahead and pluck you money down. If you are a person who buys a truck to pull a camper for more than just a jaunt, go ICE.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
in town I think these EV trucks could make sense, perhaps even save the owner some real money but out of town just seems like a gamble.
@rm100022 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures This doesn’t align with what I’m getting out of my GMC Sierra EV over the past month, and it has the exact same battery pack. I pulled a 9500lb 31ft camper 208mi with it at 60mph on a single charge. Also, it seems intentionally misleading…those chargers you’re using are super slow at ~44kw…the truck can charge 8x faster than that at 350kw but you don’t seem to care to mention that.
@D3athM3tal-i4c2 ай бұрын
@@rm10002he can only comment on what he gets for videos
@newscoulomb37052 ай бұрын
So basically, if you are an urban cowboy who buys a truck to haul a camper out of the suburbs every other weekend, go ICE. 🙄Long-distance, heavy towing only represents about 25% of work truck use cases, and those are best served by 1-ton diesel trucks. For the the other 75% of work truck use cases, 400 miles of base range and 200+ miles of local towing range that you wake up to every morning without having to go to a gas station makes way more sense than driving a lifted, 4x4 ICE driveway princess.
@newscoulomb37052 ай бұрын
@@rm10002 Given how this video played out, I'd assume that most of the sensationalizing is due to audience capture, but integrity cuts both ways. I personally won't be subscribing as a result because I need to be able to trust the sources I rely on. Your experiences with the Sierra EV have been reproduced and showcased by a number of other reviewers who didn't have an axe to grind, so I would just accept this video for what it is: Confirmation bias for ICE truck owners.
@havnfunb42 ай бұрын
There are some Electrify Canada 350 kw stations just up the road which work really well :) might cost a bit more but they are fast and there are 4 in a good area with lots of amenities. I think you need to do your homework. You also picked the worst area to test. My gas 21 Sierra 5.3 tows horrible when towing a RV doing that route going to Yogi Bear.
@cptbluehawk575 күн бұрын
The whole point is the push the truck to its limits and find the best one in comparison to others. The harder location to test the better
@havnfunb45 күн бұрын
@@cptbluehawk57I agree totally but you have to test all vehicles equally. That EV should blow away any existing EV truck today and should be comparable to a V8 half ton. If you watch the videos you will lose about half towing and I find my gas 5.3 to be about the same when riding our RV
@stevenrast42612 ай бұрын
Great video Alex, I appreciate that you weren’t bashing EVs the entire time, they have their pros, but also their cons. Great info too
@Kecastle782 ай бұрын
Also; look how long it took to get the v8's we have today. 400 hp out of the box! 30 yrs ago no way! Maybe what, 180/190 if that, lol.
@robwiljasАй бұрын
You could have 400HP out of a factory V8 in the 60's. It was emissions that killed the power after that.
@kuhndog-11962 ай бұрын
I'm so unimpressed with electric trucks. I can see the use for a car for around town use, but to me a truck needs to be a jack of all trades and useful at all times. That's not the case with ev trucks.
@kelviskelvis71402 ай бұрын
Pure seculation on your part. I own the RST that replaced my duramax without skipping a beat. The RST is much better than the high country i sold.
@rm10002Ай бұрын
@kuhndog-1196 Have you driven an electric truck? Have you towed with one?
@TroySavaryАй бұрын
We raplacecd Sierra 2500 with a Silverado EV 4wt at work. Pulls everything thrown at it so far better than the truck it replaced. Hauled topsoil all day last week, using just over 20% of the battery. Of course, it was an ideal situation where we were going up the mountain empty and back down full, so regen was maximized.
@rm10002Ай бұрын
@@TroySavary that’s a very cool way to get the most out of your truck. Reminds me of how the Edison Semi guys use their electric logging semi.
@TroySavaryАй бұрын
@@rm10002 Just lucked out on that job. Most aren't as ideally placed. But so far the truck has exceeded expectations.
@PierreHamel-dl9kfАй бұрын
Let me make a small suggestion. It is 1904 and a truck salesman comes to a farmer and offers to replace his horses with a gasoline truck. The farmer replies why would I do such a stupid thing? A truck need gasoline to work where would I find that? A truck is dangerous. A friend of mine broke his arm while cranking is engine, tires only last a week or two. IT lacks power, with my horse if I need more power I team up horses two four or six if needed there is no maintenance on my horses they always start winter or summer so why would I buy a truck. Doesn't it sound like the same argument today with ice engine and Electric?
@rodneycrable7502Ай бұрын
Nope it doesn’t.
@k.ryanhasse8047Ай бұрын
The truck has a noticeable productivity gain over a horse (hence 10 or 100 or 1000 horsepower), whereas an electric truck is essentially no more productive than a gas truck. An electric truck only offers a perceived environmental benefit (because the grid is powered by, mostly, fossil fuels). According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, 60% of electric power comes from fossil fuels. www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
@Sylvan_dBАй бұрын
Not at all. But even if it did, wouldn't a smart salesman say, "it sounds like this isn't a good fit for you" and get on his way to better prospects ? Now imagine instead the government coming to that farmer and saying, "you need to buy this gasoline truck. If you buy the right truck and qualify in all these other ways we'll give you a small rebate. You have to buy all this added equipment for your horses to make them safer and filter and neutralize their emissions and buy special supplements to feed them all year and special food for them in the winter and there will be no new horses starting in 1915." Now it sounds like the same argument today with ICE vs Electric.
@faffabout9412Ай бұрын
If gasoline had been hard to get or expensive, or problematic, and if the truck couldn’t run farther and faster then the horse that would have been true… except it wasn’t. The whole reason gasoline was chosen for model t is because we had too much of the stuff laying around and it was cheap and easy.
@Sylvan_dBАй бұрын
@@faffabout9412 and the model T would run well on alcohol, which was widely produced up until Rockefeller funded prohibition.
@wessmith14492 ай бұрын
I want to know what it's like after 10 years old.And you're doing that in the winter
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
you already know what it's going to be like..
@newscoulomb37052 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Actually, you don't. EVs are affected more in winter only because their baseline energy consumption is less than a quarter of an ICE car's parasitic losses. Under driving conditions like this, you'd likely lose less than an additional 10% in winter. In fact, at that point, the EV might actually have better range than your ICE trucks that are struggling to get 6 to 7 mpg in mild conditions.
@erictownsend4236Ай бұрын
At 10 years old, you could very possibly replaced the battery! OUCH! From what I have seen that is very very expensive! And batteries do not do well in cold Temps!
@newscoulomb3705Ай бұрын
@@erictownsend4236 Depending on how you care for the battery, you can reasonably expect about 90% of the original capacity in 10 years. Considering the truck was able to complete this loop with about 10 miles of range remaining new, you'd be just a little short of completing it with 10% degradation, at which point, a short, 5-minute top up at a modern charger would allow you to complete the loop without issue.
@kelviskelvis7140Ай бұрын
@@newscoulomb3705the guy did not use regen brakes in the down hills range on that truck with that much weight should have put a lot range back to the battery.
@Adjust-Fire-jy3dyАй бұрын
My wife got a EV Mercedes as a loner while hers (V8) was being serviced. It took 2 days for us to realize we will never go EV. Charging times, limited stations and questionable mileage on a charge were show stoppers. You can forget about long distance trips up the east coast, or cross country. The reality is the current administration saw an opportunity to get in at the ground level on the EV industry so they mandated production of these ASAP. I promise you every lawmaker in Washington has stock in the EV industry.
@anubis8370Ай бұрын
If you have a Tesla you can charge at their new level 4 chargers in 10 mins. Thats the problem is that motor companies never invested in infrastructure as a partnership. GM had a EV back in the 90s that got roughly 100 miles then big oil came and lobbied to get the car off the market. they won. They seized the cars from owners with the help of the FBI. Watch the documentary Revenge of the Electric car. The point is that if car companies didn't screw themselves we would already had a nice infrastructure for charging but OPEC wins at the end of the day.
@brita65415 күн бұрын
Not about administaration or lawmaker stocks lol. Its about the climate. Planet Earth. Our kids. The government is probably not doing a good job at this either which means we are way behind in this EV transition and the climate battle is in desperation mode already. And now with gas prices way down EV'S and those automakers are taking a big hit. I honestly feel that government should start imposing a small Sintax on gas just like cigarettes with a gradual increase over 20 years and use the money for infrastructure. Cigarette smoking has decreased massively and we are all better off in so many ways. I believe the same is true with filthy fossils. Battery tech and renewable energy can only get better.
@KevinBrown-r7d2 ай бұрын
Try that towing loop in January.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
No thanks..
@jamierpm2 ай бұрын
Time is money and I have enough stress and anxiety already don’t need the range anxiety and stressed out if it will charge
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
I had the range anxiety in full swing lol I think if I didn't get that 20 mins of charge out of that broken charger and didn't cut the speed down it would of been very close.
@wadeworkman714212 күн бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventuresnot sure about Canada, but in the states GM can use Tesla chargers, which equates to ZERO range anxiety. One every 100 miles ( or less) and always works
@jasonjason98662 ай бұрын
Where car commercials meet reality. There really should be more consumer protection besides a small font or a sped up voice saying side effects may include death.
@prettybadboylagerberg6385Ай бұрын
Great stuff Alex. So, this is another towing video in which the EV got about 1/4 of its normal range. I’ve seen cybertruck and Lightning videos do similar. That’s terrible. My 23 Chevy HD gas gets around half its normal mpg while towing. And even with faster charge stations, you’ll spend somewhere between 10-15 times longer refilling compared to gas/diesel. These are truly amazing on one hand and yet incredibly impractical for anything but in town use.
@timj9350Ай бұрын
Strange how Jerry rig everything got a lot more range towing 11,000 pounds with the same truck
@ProbeGT2Ай бұрын
Yes indeed. Doing the same trip at the same speeds with a gas truck it would probably be in the 30-35L/100km So out of your tank of gas, you would not go a lot further. Next time you want a nice charging experience, come to Québec! If there's one thing we have done right, it's the charging network. We are building more and more 180kw+ chargers so charging for what you'd need to get get you home would take 10-15 minutes, then fill up overnight.
@danstrange506722 күн бұрын
Probably comes down to aerodynamics. Different trailers.
@scramjet4610Ай бұрын
Great video. This identifies the good points and gets to the crux of the problem with electric towing.
@wipatriot5102 ай бұрын
"10 min later charger stopped working"... 10 min later, I was filled and back on the road again...2020 GMC 3500HD AT4(8400lbs) w/L5P, towing a Forest River 524BBS 5th wheel, curb weight approx 8000lbs, I can now go another 486 mi(13.5mpg x 36gal)... EV trucks just don't, and will never cut it, they're just bigger grocery getters...
@davidjernigan81612 ай бұрын
If one is going to spend that much on a truck a one ton diesel would make more sense. That "work truck" costs at least 70k in USD.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
1 ton diesel will weigh about the same lol
@mrt32062 ай бұрын
Fuel economy isn’t out the window. Charging isn’t free😅 and from a recent video done by TFL. It actually costed double the $$ to recharge the EV truck as it did to refuel the V8 F150 they used on a 115 mile round trip. So not only are EVs more expensive, if you aren’t charging at your own house with your own personal charging station, you are also paying significantly more to recharge opposed to just paying for gas or diesel 🤣 And as we have seen in this video, charging is still a pain in the a** and takes longer then the typical 2 minutes to refuel. At this point having an EV just seems like a hobby for people who have to much money especially since they depreciate by 50% as soon as you drive them off the lot💀
@newscoulomb37052 ай бұрын
It depends on where you are. Gas here is nearly $5 a gallon, and on these tests, he's typically seeing 6 mpg in ICE trucks. Paying $1 a mile doesn't seem like a great deal to me, either.
@Jay-me7gwАй бұрын
TFL also used an insanely expensive charger at $0.64/kwh. The chargers here near my house are around $0.45. They also didnt account for the fact that they could have started that 110 mile trip with a full charge that was $0.12/kwh by charging at that home/office. You cannot fill your V8 F150 at your house for $1 a gallon. No matter how full your gas tank is in your gas truck, you still had to pay the same amount for fuel. I wouldnt buy an EV truck, because I tow long distances into remote places, but I do own a Bolt for daily driving and its awesome. And it only cost me $17000 because I took advantage of that 50% depreciation you talk about. Win win for me. 1/10th the price to drive vs my truck and cost 1/4 the price of a mildly optioned half ton these days.
@Kecastle782 ай бұрын
Awesome..... Thanks for the real world tow vid! 17 min for me, all day for you. I am thinking EV so these vids are great and as time goes on things will improve.
@joeblow50372 ай бұрын
Pete Buttigieg informed me that is was Trump's fault. Oh wait, youre in Canada. *Justin Trudeau informed me that is was Trump's fault. 8500LBS!!! ??? Great video as always, Alex 🙂
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
lol our boy JT!
@Freedomjustice-DC2 ай бұрын
FJT!!!!
@motoxdudeNV-UT2 ай бұрын
This vid is all I need to conclude a solid PASS when it comes to EV! Sure it's fun to drive, but I'm not ruining a trip because of charging stations or lack thereof! With ICE I put the gaspump nozzle in the filler, go take a piss, grab a soda then hit the road... with an EV waiting to charge I could read a 300 page novel!
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
the trucks tows like nothing I've driven BUT I'd be worried taking this truck out of town.
@IcaynАй бұрын
There is so much wrong with this video it’s hard to know where to start. If you want to know what these EV trucks can do you need to look at reviewers with more experience. A range test needs to be a loop and if a loop is not possible, on flat ground, not in mountains, you need to start at 100% charge not 88 for crying out loud. You need a set speed, say 70mph. You don’t start a range test with 0-60 runs 🙄 As for charging, a truck that charges as fast as this one does, it should be charged at fast chargers, you plan the route accordingly. You don’t charge for hours to 100% you charge only enough to get to the next charger at say 10% remaining battery or just enough to finish your trip. Oh, and you would have made the 120 miles trip since you started and 88% and had gone 52 miles with 50% battery left.
@ML-lg4ky2 ай бұрын
What’s great about EV’s is they can be remotely disabled by your government at any time. Good form of control!
@ALMX5DP2 ай бұрын
Huh? What electronics onboard an EV are different from any modern ICE vehicle?
@guentherwilke2055Ай бұрын
All modern vehicles have this vulnerability. GM vehicles for the last 20 years are susceptible.
@jameschidley5069Ай бұрын
If you wear your tinfoil hat you will be safe 😂 Don't give law enforcement a reason to arrest you. Having your vehicle disabled is better than getting shot, driving over a spike strip, killing someone in a high speed chase I could go on
@timj9350Ай бұрын
Just like every other car
@Cloud30000Ай бұрын
No need, they can just use the 5G signals to take over your brain and send you directly to their secret interrogation bunkers set up in every town.
@freed147602 ай бұрын
Finally!! Yes!!! Waiting for days brother!!
@randomdino31062 ай бұрын
Hopefully you do the 3.0 I’m wondering how it does.
@edan7813Ай бұрын
We need F150 Lightning, Rivian and Cybertruck towing tests for comparison now
@BrandyJupiter2 ай бұрын
My lighting would lose around 51 miles under 30f. I could get that back running it plugged in before a trip. But if it's hot or cold, using either significantly climate settings greatly reduces the miles available.
@chaydonofallon13522 ай бұрын
With the curb weight and gvwr of the truck, that should be classified as a 3/4 ton, not a half ton and be compared as such.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
I sort of agree with you. 8500lbs is more then an F-450 diesel.
@JohnDiMartino2 ай бұрын
Very good review it’s unfortunate that your area has such outdated chargers. With the proper modern charger that truck can add 100 miles for every 10 minutes of charge time. Obviously towing would cut that in half. There’s no dying the electric vehicle performance towing is in its own league, they’re better than HD diesels if you’re not going far. Theres no noise,maintenance ,no lag it’s instant power. They have their place obviously long distance and Towing isn’t it.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
Electric motors are extremely powerful. But I feel like until there is a major shift in battery technology or charging towing is always going to be a weak spot for these EV trucks.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
And yes if I had the full blown 350kWh charger it would of been different but the truck was charging at 75ish kWh on a 100 kWh charger.
@rm10002Ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures There was a major shift in EV charging this week. This truck can now charge on the Tesla network.
@JohnnyChronic18Ай бұрын
The NB chargers are worst in canada. In quebec this trip would be easy.
@bdelyАй бұрын
I would say Nova Scotia is the worst it only has 1 350kw charger in the whole province and was capped at 180kw,all other were 50kw
@angelawerner76962 ай бұрын
Spending more time waiting for it to tow than driving just sucks! Triple the time your drive will take, most of the time will be spent pacing around the charging station.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
Granted the chargers I had available are not the fastest but it is what it is.
@D3athM3tal-i4c2 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventuresthe problem is you are showing charging in rural setting which is where towers would possibly be if camping
@jeffrey2199Ай бұрын
You have to try with the Tesla superchargers. GM now has an adapter and allows you to charge at Tesla superchargers. They’re more reliable and faster than what was depicted on this video.
@JJJ5.72 ай бұрын
Alex I'm still looking forward to you testing a Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi on your mileage Loop
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
I think it will surprise people.
@trymaster8337Ай бұрын
A comparison that I would love to see is a Ford transit, high roof, pulling an enclosed trailer versus the F150 pulling the same trailer with both of them having the same engine. I would like to see how aerodynamics changes how they both perform. I’m curious to see if the transit will get better fuel economy with the enclosed trailer because it cut through it first.
@anthonyzhang49182 ай бұрын
If the charging infrastructure was good, fast, reliable and had pull through stations, I honestly wouldn’t mind an ev for towing my camper. My camper is 5000lbs and similar in size to your trailer. I can only get about 115miles per tank in my 2023 Ranger, so I gotta stop for gas a LOT.
@brandonstewart71452 ай бұрын
Man you need to slow down or get a bigger truck, my c1500 can go 200+ miles pulling my 7,000lb camper.
@EGGINFOOLS2 ай бұрын
Does it defeat the purpose? Yes... Yes it does. Its ok to say that
@adamhymas46202 ай бұрын
This video makes me want to be an EV lumberjack
@Michael_Livingstone2 ай бұрын
Hey Cutie, ever think the day will come where the little highway semis will have electric propulsion?
@Danzilly2 ай бұрын
For what that truck cost you can get a well optioned diesel for less!
@bobrhead9465Ай бұрын
Alex.. could you comment of the "Tow Haul Mode" for the electric truck... I can't fathom how this would be make a difference in an electric vehicle?
@emmanuelgermain7692 ай бұрын
As the owner of a Silverado EV who has towed a lot with it, unfortunately there are some negative aspects that are present with it. The truck itself is great in general but still has some things that need to be improved. The biggest issue that is dependant on where you live or travel is the charging network. I would say that NB isn't quite up to par in order for charging to be less involved in the range issue. Quebec is easier on the charging side both speed and availability as well as the more populated areas of Ontario. Electric vehicles are still considered in their infancy and heavy as well as distance towing is still a challenge. You have to give props to GM with the Silverado for making it possible to still get pretty good towing and range for a 100% battery electric truck. For the moment I believe that 100% electric with on-board generator like the upcoming ram charger will be the best of both worlds for distance and heavy hauling until charging and battery infrastructure gets 5o where it needs to be. Right now you have to look at your situation to see if 100% battery is viable for you if that's something you want to get into. There're plenty of people that haul heavy with their Silverado EV's every day and have no range issues. Just depends on different variables.
@doublej963Ай бұрын
Id like to hear what you think about the new edition of the other truck
@knightwing4Ай бұрын
I’d like to see you do the test with a 2500 diesel just to what the results are with the same trailer. I know it will do better. I just want to see how much.
@berthogendoorn2133Ай бұрын
Tesla just opened their supercharger version 3 to GMC with a NACS adapter, what is great it that the Silverado EV has the charge port in the right location and will charge fast 250KW at Tesla and 360KW at EC or other high speed chargers.
@realchurch269327 күн бұрын
Electric trucks are a novelty. I pull a 8500 lbs rv trailer and I drop from 29mpg to 10-12. I only go 65 because the truck will tow faster but shifts alot. 2020 silverado with the 3.0 duramax.
@EGGINFOOLS2 ай бұрын
Did better than the lightning with a 6000lb trailer
@Jay-me7gwАй бұрын
My Chevy Bolt has an insane amount of torque limiting at low speed. Granted, its fwd, so its pretty traction limited, but at around 25-30mph you can feel it all of a sudden put full power down and it will take off and even spin the tires at 35mph. GM seems to be insanely conservative. I wish they would just let me use full power and ill deal with the tire spin.
@Beltway_Bandit21 күн бұрын
Common mistake with new EV owners is the mindset of charging to 100% on roadtrips. This is actually less efficient for the trip and not necessarily. I have driven on 1000+ mile road trips in mine and never have to charge for more than 30 minutes with about 200 to 250 miles between charging. Get down to 5% soc, charge to 70% and then move on to the next, it’s very easy once you get used to it.
@kcb94552 ай бұрын
Very well done video.
@RobSmink-e6zАй бұрын
Careful now, the EV police will come to set you straight. Interesting how touchy folks get. The trouble with EV's is actually not range, but as you pointed out charging. Think of this scenario, if you could recharge your EV to 100%, just like ICE in 15 to 20 minutes ( I am being generous here) Why would you install a home charger and upgrade your home electrical system, you would just go to that place that everyone goes to today, because as the demand comes, they would just install more charges, just like they have more pumps and stations as the demand grows. Since there is no local demand, no one uses them so they are broken or temperamental most of the time. If the demand was actually there and profitable, those chargers would be up and running. On a more important note, I hope you get to try out the Colorado/Canyon and Ranger, it would be interesting as both come with an engine used in their bigger siblings, how close they can come to them. and I do enjoy your videos, great info
@hphillips74252 ай бұрын
As convenient as the charging stations are everyone should have nothing but electric vehicles by the end of the year
@stalkevАй бұрын
Maybe for local driving, but long trips, going into the woods, I would never use that truck because in the real world, you would simply be stuck and not have enough juice to get back.There are no charging stations in the forest.
@bdelyАй бұрын
I traveled from southwest ontario to Nova Scotia with my Silverado EV RST, not sure why he was not get more range I would guess he had the 3wt not the 4wt, I was able to get 405km towing my 21ft rv trailer on 95% of the battery.
@b0bsaget0072 ай бұрын
EV trucks don't make a lot of sense, but hybrids and plug-in hybrids would. While there are a couple of hybrid options, it doesn't seem like there are any plug-in hybrid trucks.
@ALMX5DP2 ай бұрын
2:58 yeah this Silverado does weigh significantly more, but also the Ecoboost I bet makes more torque in the first couple of gears than this EV due to the benefit of having all those ratios to choose from.
@TroySavaryАй бұрын
I have yet to run into issues using the NB Power chargers, other than the annoyingly slow 50 kW charge rate. Your return trip was mostly downhill so you probably would have been fine without charging.
@AndreCarter9321 күн бұрын
Great video 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@patricks1976Ай бұрын
The thing people forget is will this truck last 400 thousand plus km on the original battery ? Or will it end up in the dump after a couple of years ? Which is better for the environment a gas/deisel trucks that can last 20 plus years or these disposable vaccumes 😂
@slocavky2 ай бұрын
Range, Initial cost, and shear boredom of driving one is what does it for me. I'll keep my 3.0 diesel. 97 miles of towing range is so laughable too. smh.
@rm10002Ай бұрын
He did the math wrong, and also calculated that 97mi range number as range remaining when he was at 76%.
@Freedomjustice-DC2 ай бұрын
Nothing like spending hours charging. When you cam fill up an ice in 3 mins
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
It really is the downside of the EV's especially the large battery packs on the trucks.
@txtechnonerdАй бұрын
If this was mostly elevation increase on the way to this “halfway” point, then you’d have had WAY more than enough to make it back going downhill.
@GreyGord2 ай бұрын
I wonder if you could repeat the same test with the truck box and cab loaded to the max gvw for the truck? I recently saw a fellow with his Lightning stating that towing knocks the heck out of his Ford too, but he can load 1500 lbs into his truck instead of towing, and hardly affect the solo mileage.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
I mean this truck already weighs 8500 lbs so i don't think an extra 1,400 lbs of max payload will make too much of a difference. If I had to guess lol
@timothywashburn4669Ай бұрын
Was there a part about braking distance with such a heavy vehicle ?
@stephanematis2 ай бұрын
In the city, this will be a game changer.
@JohnDiMartino2 ай бұрын
It’s not limited to the city, without a trailer has a 450 mile range this things Battery will outlast your bladder without a trailer. on a 350 KW charger you’ll be adding 100 miles of range every 10 minutes on the charger.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
agreed, and will be very cheap to run.
@ALMX5DP2 ай бұрын
@@JohnDiMartino they didnt say it would be limited to the city, just that it would be great in that environment.
@peiguy19822 ай бұрын
Electrify Canada are the only decent ones in the Maritimes that are J1772. And petro if they are working right, hit or miss there. You could have included those chargers were only 50 KW before the comments section rage kicks in.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
I thought forsure their would be a petro Canada fast charger in town but i guess not. the second charger in the video was a 100 kWh charger. was charging at like 75ish kWh. but the 205 kWh battery is so large it just takes a while.
@peiguy19822 ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Meductic Petro chargers work good. Well the one on the left did for me anyways. Electrify Canada are in woodstock or saint john (and grand falls NB). I think all that happened there from a dig was TC pulled some power then. Lightning is the same, TC it falls on it's face even with wet pavement not towing. Very sensitive to even the slightest wheelspin. I live on PEI I'm aware of the flo and all that. That GM can pull 300 KW at electrify Canada. I get the dirty looks driving the SR XLT lightning everyday. I'm not forcing those guys to make the payments on it, not sure what the problem is lol.
@mtbse78911 күн бұрын
It's not an ev thing. It's a non-Tesla thing. Excellent truck though. I think they are able to use Super Chargers now?
@Silverado20212 ай бұрын
I'm still laughing... keeping my gas guzzling v8's
@mikedavid7168Ай бұрын
Charge your truck at Tesla charges. That works now. Forget these other chargers. I charge mine now at Tesla with adapter.
@FanaticalKilla2 ай бұрын
What was the cost to charge the battery?
@johng4527Ай бұрын
210kw is about 280hp. so yeah, you were using a lot of power to maintain speed on that hill.
@linhjayfettermanАй бұрын
thank you
@patriot55262 ай бұрын
After trillions of dollars spent and untold damage to the environment from lithium and cobalt mining, this where electric vehicles are. Who is still foolish enough to think that this is somehow helpful for the planet? If it makes you feel like a good person for driving one, you are incredibly misinformed. Get over yourself.
@TheGettyAdventures2 ай бұрын
With the current technology I just don't see how these trucks are going to replace the current gas/diesel engines. if there is a serious improvement in battery tech or charging then maybe but it was a little disappointing seeing this truck struggle to tow 120 miles.
@Slane583Ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Hybrids are the answer IMO. Something like what Edison Motors is doing with big rigs. Get rid of the transmission and replace it with electric drive motors. So far the biggest issue is the engine having the ability to keep the battery charged while going up hill with a heavy load. But that only seems to be an issue with using gasoline engines and not a diesel.
@TAWithiamАй бұрын
"Untold damage" lol no. Mining of these materials sure has it's share of issues but *Oil **_starts wars_* and also yk, climate change. Ik there's a lot of people trying to throw as much shade at EVs as possible, and there _are legitimate_ points to make so it's frustrating to hear BS arguments like this.
@mgsmith7475Ай бұрын
The weight of these EV's are going to make roads even worse to drive on.
@ProbeGT2Ай бұрын
How much do you think a diesel 2500 or a dually weigh? Jesus Christ people.....
@mgsmith7475Ай бұрын
@ProbeGT2 I live in Michigan, where the roads have to be the worst in the country. When you add an additional 1 to 4k lb's in battery weight to any vehicle to what they normally are, it's going to destroy the roads even more. Then, watch your state tax dollars climb to fix the roads more often.
@ProbeGT2Ай бұрын
@@mgsmith7475 i live in Québec, if you want a challenge for bad roads, i accept! Haha. In all seriousness, yes, the truck is heavier than a 1500. Yes, it's almosr as heavy as a dually, but still, you have semi trucks rooling all day long, duallies with huge trailers or fifth wheels, dumper trucks etc etc etc. It's not the homeowner EV that will destroy your roads. I don't have an EV, i have a gas silverado, but i want the EV one. I love EV's, i'm no blinded guy, of course, they are not for everyone, charging is not for everyone, but as with every new technology, it takes time to mature. EV's 10 years ago were jokes except the Model S, now look where they are. In 10 years, they'll probably have twice the range and charge twice as fast. I don't like deceptive youtubers who just try to make things look bad. A lot of things in this video could've been done right and the experience would have been totally different. First, going 110km/h with that huge ass trailer on mountain roads is kinds dumb. I tow a big cargo trailer everyday for work and i never go over 100km/h, because the fuel consumption between 100 and 110 is insane and fuel is not cheap. Then, if you know you have a big route to do, you start at 100% battery. This video was not "real world stuff" because no one who does this kinda towing everyday goes that fast on mountain roads, unless you like to give your precious dollars to oil companies to save 5 minutes.
@mgsmith7475Ай бұрын
@@ProbeGT2 I respect that response!!
@jamierpm2 ай бұрын
Yup the charger is the big problems
@rodgood2 ай бұрын
People ask for the 3 litre ,GM gives him a city truck .
@scruffy464722 күн бұрын
Why do you have your speedometer set on kph? Makes more sense to review your finding in our imperial system since you're in the USA. The metric system is fine but we haven't fully changed yet. Everytime you use metrics, have to do the conversion. Uggh.
@Beltway_Bandit21 күн бұрын
Brunswick is in Canada…. Also the charging station in French is a dead giveaway.
@guentherwilke20552 ай бұрын
If they threw a range-extended powertrain in this, They'd have my attention.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
thats what Ram is doing. throwing a 3.6L pentastar in the truck while using electric motors. not a terrible idea tbh
@ProbeGT2Ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Ohh yeah? And what size battery? 50kw? So after 40km that 3.6 will be screaming for dear life just to keep you on speed.
@gavinbrake56722 ай бұрын
No thanks!
@robertbass57882 ай бұрын
Still no Ram Trucks??
@TroySavaryАй бұрын
Every other tester got much more range in tow tests than you did. That makes your results suspect.
@FullaBullzАй бұрын
What I don’t get about all the EV is why you need an account, an app, register… you should be able to swipe your credit card and start charging. No need for any of that other shit just so there can be a data breach and all the info they’ve collected and sold stolen.
@kelviskelvis71402 ай бұрын
This review did not use one petal drive during the demonstration.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
I was into the throttle the whole time. but it does work well.
@kelviskelvis7140Ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures "into the throttle" downhill, too? With that massive weight and stored kinetic energy you could have regenerated about half or more energy back to the battery if you used regenerative braking instead of the friction brakes. Some of those hills could have added up to 400KW back to the battery with that towed weight. So the .6 KW per mile figure likely is not the true representation of the route efficiency. I own the Silverado RST and tow a boat and use regenerative braking exclusively and get double your range while towing. Your conclusion about route efficiency points to regen was not used on your route shown or your trailer brakes were not properly applied.
@rm10002Ай бұрын
@@kelviskelvis7140 Good catch on the regen braking being turned off. Now this makes sense why his range sucked so bad. I’ve never seen that bad of range with my Sierra EV, and now we know why.
@daveallen7767Ай бұрын
If that thing ever collides with my 22 F150 5.0 I'll look like a fly inside an aluminum can flattened on the street !
@justinbourgeois46852 ай бұрын
People have the misconception that the ev is "unreliable" and prone to failure. But in reality its the charging infrastructure Evs are probably super reliable, just compare it to my Milwaukee chainsaw.. that chainsaw always starts. But old Husqvarna, shes a bitch to start some days lol
@adrianevans91702 ай бұрын
Something ain't adding up. You went 53 miles and used half the battery? I have a ford lightning er with a smaller battery and I can go 75 miles on half a battery and we are talking 131kw battery vs 207kw battery. Most people are getting 200 miles with the chevy.
@ProbeGT2Ай бұрын
He had to not make it so he could do the click bait title to get the views. Also for the charger, just do some reseach and try to find an approriate charger, even if it means a 10 minutes detour, of you gain 3-4x charge speed, those 10 minutes will pay. I mean, when i had my Canyon Duramax i had to check if gas stations had diesel and try to remember those, same thing for charging network. And looks like N.-B. is 10 years behind as for charging infrastructure so yes, it's gonna be a pain.
@keshmo122 ай бұрын
2.5 hours to charge from like 30%? That must have been like a 50kwh charger? In our town we only got 7 kwh chargers which take hours! That was pretty disappointing results nonetheless.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
It was a 100kWh charger, started around 20ish% if I remember correctly, but was charging around 75kWh.
@bearhandfu2 ай бұрын
Lots of wrinkles to iron out. 200 KW is a lot of battery. It’s just not feasible to charge that quickly with today’s technology. Even with 800 volt architecture, you would be looking at an hour to get from 10-80%. Seems like towing is pretty faux pas with EVs. I am unsure as to why we couldn’t program a route into the truck and get a better range estimate with a trailer profile, unless that just isn’t in the software. It should be. I can say that winter time alone has made owning my EV stressful. Charging occurs much more slowly. I am hopeful that in the future, you look back the same way we look at ICE vehicles, a Ford Model T now, and realize that EV technology is so young. And painful.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
the 202kWh battery is great but yes when it comes to charging it takes a bit to get her fully charged and well unfortunatly we just don't have the fastest chargers around here.
@charlesb4267Ай бұрын
I see a select few scream about the test being biased/unfair in claiming it was filmed to make a poor showing. I personally do not see that as you did the same towing test loop you have done all along with the same test speeds initially ( then backed off the speed because of the range issue which you fully disclosed ). Had you not gotten some charge into it along the way and had maintained your speed .... and did cut yourself short and rolled to a stop along the side of the highway, then you would have gotten flack because you had not stopped to get some charge. There is no reasoning with some people, they have acquired such a bias over a certain brand or technology that the logic portion of the brain has left the building !. A neighbour was telling me of a conversation he had with a business owner near Dawson Creek BC who had leased a ford lightning for some months as a test to see how it compared to their gas counterpart f150's. The vehicle was not asked to go any distance away from civilization though and was being driven by an employee who would plug it in at work and drive home with it each evening and they tracked the power use charged into it for a cost comparison to their gas trucks. Winter came and that put a whole new light on the testing as down to -40 etc weather came and the range was cut drastically but also a big complaint about how cold it was in the cab and struggled to clear the windows and would finally be warm enough by the time the vehicle made it to work as the truck sat outside just like their other trucks in the fleet rather than in a heated garage which would have made the test unfair in favour of the EV. They concluded that the amount of power it consumed during the winter time and the struggles to get the cabin warm and windows clear, etc was just not a viable vehicle fit for their situation to outright buy or long term lease such a unit, but kudos to them for trying one out vs just assuming what it was or was not, give it a real world test to find out for themselves. The cost to run it power consumption wise and own it in our winter climate just didn't make sense to the bottom line.
@charbvinАй бұрын
What a pain in the ass the charging turned out to be.
@TAWithiamАй бұрын
These numbers don't add up, your efficiency is terrible compared to every other test I've seen of this truck towing, even heavier and less aerodynamic loads. You really should figure out if something is wrong with your trailer brakes, it does happen! You should be getting more like 1.7km/kwh
@rm10002Ай бұрын
He had regen braking turned off
@27dmarshallАй бұрын
"Spent more time at the charging station, then actually towing...." Fail.
@WBOS722 ай бұрын
Nice video. Will never own an EV!
@markb.1259Ай бұрын
.... NEVER!!!!!!!
@mattmortensen8492Ай бұрын
Bottom line! Use NACS. Works every time.
@michaelpopp1783Ай бұрын
You gotta be nuts to deal with this crap. These vehicles are useless for anybody that uses a real truck.
@darrenthul708821 күн бұрын
I have one best ev for me better than my tesla
@alittleofthisnthat5665Ай бұрын
Talks about battery drain while doing 0 to 60 pulls and 60 to 110 pulls with a 8k lb trailers...what normal person does that when towing 😂🤡