Chinese Navy of 2028: How Many Warships? Which Types?

[@pseudonymsam]

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[@cosmoray9750]

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[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thank you for the comment and subscription. Unbiased assessment in the core of this channel. Happy to take suggestions for future briefings.

[@jtzoltan]

​@@Strategy_Analysis I've got one I heard from someone doing a different kind of analysis. It would be important to sort out the degree to which this is true... Iirc it posits that US Corporations have a much more complex relationship with China than is commonly understood, with much IP theft actually being various high level persons in US corporations or even government trying to pull technologies and designs that legally are rendered inaccessible from having been developed by DOD or other government R&D, and making them available for that corporation's US.

[@jimcysiah4193]

​@@jtzoltandon't accuse china copy. It's genius engineers scientists more superior than US engineers

[@jimcysiah4193]

@@pseudonymsam Chinese navy definitely stronger today than all navies

[@philcole5523]

I've just finished watching your briefing about the Chinese Navy I thought it was well done and we'll made keep the good work up I've been a fan of your since I've been watching your videos

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thank you. Much appreciated. Is there anything you'd like me to cover?

[@team3am149]

That’s definitely a low-end estimate for the Type-055. They’ve already launched 10 of them, and the Type-004 will also likely be nearing completion in 2028.

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Certainly could be more 055s. Note that I state "in service", not simply completed.

[@amunra5330]

China Navy looks awesome! Beautiful and powerful ships 🙏

[@bishopofsahs]

What is the institution in China to produce naval officers?

[@laughingkor8643]

​@@bishopofsahs National Defence University PLA China.

[@sqrone1]

@@bishopofsahs Dalian Naval Academy is a junior officer training institution. Generally, the military rank of graduates is second lieutenant.

[@sqrone1]

@@bishopofsahs The National Defense University is a school that trains senior military officers. If you want to be promoted from a colonel-level officer to a general-level officer, you must go to the National Defense University to receive training.

[@sqrone1]

@@bishopofsahs The Naval Command College is an intermediate officer training school. Any naval officer who wants to advance from the rank of captain to the rank of major needs to study at this school.

[@JD-dm1uj]

IMO, the Type 055 is the best ship in the world at the moment, the 052DL is exceptional as well, same for Type 054B.

[@mathewferstl7042]

Sejong the great class is better if the only measure we use is vls capacity. Which is silly anyway

[@JD-dm1uj]

@@mathewferstl7042 I don’t believe it is, the sensor suite is much more advanced on the 055s and the YJ-21, 18s, etc., are more capable than what SK currently possesses. The one weakness the 055’s have, is the 9QBs don’t compete well against the SM series.

[@jobjed]

@@JD-dm1uj HQ-9B is considered to be in the same performance class as SM-6s by US IC. There are some technical-tactical differences between the two systems in exact capability implementation but they're not meaningful enough to affect conemps and conops.

[@JD-dm1uj]

@@jobjed I understand that, most definitely, though the SM-2,3 and 6s are exceptionally proven systems under direct combat, just look at what’s happened in the Arabian peninsula lately, they’ve been dominant, they’ve proven themselves in multiple scenarios. There’s minimum to no actual scenarios of the 9Bs doing that, they very well could, though just no proven metrics at this point.

[@mathewferstl7042]

@JD-dm1uj how do you know its more advanced, so far there's not much evidence to suggest China can build better sensors than Western countries

[@nicolamastascusa8173]

I had no idea they had 82 Type 022s. That's a whole fleet's worth.

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Yes, certainly a lot. They still have some value.

[@sqrone1]

022 has been dispatched to the South China Sea to handle rapid emergencies with its speed

[@michaellou7101]

@@sqrone1several have Filipinos names on them. lol.

[@sqrone1]

@@michaellou7101 There is no justice in territorial conflicts. Each neighboring country has its own reasons for claiming the land as its own. This problem was originally the most difficult problem in the world to solve. There is currently no effective way to deal with it. If it gets worse, it often turns into a war. China has been a country for thousands of years, and Chinese people have left footprints in many regions and islands in Asia. Although most territorial disputes have been determined through the signing of treaties, a considerable number of them are still in dispute. According to their past immigration history, you cannot say that they The territorial claims of the Philippines are outright aggression because they visited the islands and lived or fished in them before the Philippines became a nation.

[@RadicalFloat_95]

I actually cannot express how genuinely criminaly underated this comment actually is and this world and community actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better than me. ​@@sqrone1

[@joosiekawk]

The Type 075 is 45,000 tons, not 36,000

[@xushenxin]

Lots of those ships are for sale actually, including 052DL.

[@COLINJELY]

With China being our largest trading partner, have you looked at the scenario where ships of the RAN might be assisting ships of the PLA-N in protecting Merchant Shipping traveling between Australia and China?

[@fabricemartin5561]

A great job to make a real view of the chinese navy. Thanks. 👏🙏👍😊

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thanks, much appreciated.

[@laohu5511]

There is a mising component to this and that is the role of the Strategic Missile Force and how it combines with the PLAN in any conflict to China. " How well the PLAN performs in any high end conflict remanins to be seen" that maybe true but is also true is how well the US Navy performs against the combined firepower coming at them from both the PLAN and the SMF not to mention the PLAAF. There are also no mention of the various USV capabilities of the PLAN or the role that AI will play nor their cyber capabilities. Software capability is playing an important role in all types of hardware including military. The Chinese tech sector will be crucial to the development and deployment of weapons systems particuarly by 2028. This point cannot be overstated that's exactly why the US is sanctioning the semi conductor industry in China because the Chinese develop their own high end chips for these systems that remaining bid informational advantage of the US military will disappear. There is also the aerospace sensory capabilities to take into account as moden weapon systems are basically computing devices of a dispersed network of remote nodes esp UAV and USV. Ther various underwater survelliance networks and airborne survelliance networks etc It's not just a matter of hardware platforms in the 21st century but intergrated functionality across the board.

[@laohu5511]

The civilian infrastruture with their roro ferries and fishing fleets also add capability to any cross strait amphibious operation etc That's also going to be a factor not there are a lot of missing factors here.

[@wangyaohan8824]

I would add geostationary satellite with camera and AI to enhance the detection/recognition. plus submarine detection by monitoring earth magnetic disturbance (quiet submarine no longer an advantage).

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Absolutely the Strategic Missile Forces and Joint Strategic Support Force will obviously work in conjunction with the PLAN. These will be the subject of a future briefing.

[@ozsharpener]

Well they won't need to use aircraft taking off from carriers to attack US fleets.

[@ZweiZwolf]

The US hasn't fought against a peer adversary since WW2, much less a larger country with dramatically greater industrial manufacturing capacity. For China, it's enough to fight a war of attrition, trading 1 for 1, knowing that they can replace manpower, ammunition, and platform at least 10x faster than the USA. That is, China could, at a most basic level, do to the US, what the US did to Germans and Japanese in WW2. If China's tech is any sort of relative force multiplier, then the balance tips even further in their favor.

[@fabricemartin5561]

Thank you for this excellent analysis and projection of China's naval forces for the 2028 deadline. 👏 The number of destroyers seems perhaps a little low to me given their production capacities and the number of type 055 and 052dl currently being equipped or built. I hope you will give us an analysis on the type 076, its capabilities and the type of aircraft it will transport to fulfill its missions. 🙏

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thank you. Yes I will be doing another briefing on the Type 076 once completed. Check out the briefing I did on it before construction started.

[@jimcysiah4193]

China already superior today 2025

[@vilx1308]

055 is the dreadnaught of our time

[@chanwu5615]

Please remember Taiwan is part of China can’t be separated by others. Uncle Sam must make sure that. Don’t stir up kiosk between us.

[@RK-cj4oc]

Taiwan an independent nation named Republic of China that does not awnser to the PRC.

[@jagodiving]

china is part Taiwan , cos former kuo min tang goverment which recognized by UN stay in taiwan aka RRT

[@taotaohe5677]

Great video, but I wouldn't be surprised if another round of dumplings hit the water in the next 3-4 years. New GTs & diesels should be the enabler. Retiring the last 10 old frigates, the remainder of the 035 subs, as well as having the mass of the new toys around for a few years should also enable promotions and training of more officers for the newer ships. The economic cost of growing and maintaining a navy overmatching the US navy along with Korea, Japan and Taiwan, not just in theatre will be enormous, but cheap compared to actually having to fight a war.

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thanks for the detailed comment. Yes, surely there areorem"dumplings" to come. The future is uncertain.

[@chanwu5615]

We use for defensive more than offense like JPs.

[@ZweiZwolf]

China will need a few more aircraft carriers so that they can rotate between maintenance, training, and operations, but that really shouldn't be the focus, because aircraft carriers have become largely obsolete like the dreadnought battleships before them. China should be focused on novel asymmetrical naval warfare via stealth submarines, semi-submersibles, arsenal ships, drone carriers, smart mines, homing torpedoes, and intelligent drones.

[@eymeeraosaka2954]

Good analysis....

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thanks, much appreciated.

[@mistman5640]

Could someone please explain to me how the bloody hell will the 5 nuclear submarines operate against 50+ ASW assets in the SCS?

[@TheTraveler2222]

A higher tonnage contrary to popular belief, is actually a disadvantage not a pro

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Don't disagree. Mentioned for reference.

[@j_k_rz]

Yes (in certain cases) and no (mostly), larger tonnage can mean more powerful propulsion, powerplant, radar, better modularity with weapons, etc. Of course larger tonnage in and of itself doesn't mean much - same as heavier weight doesn't mean a man is stronger. But if the heavier weight is muscle mass, the man is stronger. Lighter weight warships which outperform ARE the exception like the Sa'ar 5 corvette. If larger displacement isn't an advantage, give some thought about why the more capable Sa'ar 6 is bigger than the Sa'ar 5

[@TheTraveler2222]

@@j_k_rz Wrong,. In most cases a higher tonnage is a huge disadvantage. A higher tonnage is a drag and does not imply any of those things you aforementioned ie a more powerful propulsion, powerplant etc, as those are independent systems on its own and is separate to the ships design and weight. They contribute to the ships higher "displacement" but isn't actual "tonnage" just as in a cargo ships cargo does not contribute to the ships tonnage but rather overall displacement. The primary reason why US ships have a higher tonnage quite frankly is because they are older and were designed to have more external steel armor on the hull and upper decks, it relies on active defenses to survive a blast and enemy missiles. However the Chinese PLA warships which are much newer are designed to be lighter so that it could travel further whilst reducing fuel consumption allowing it to carry a more active payload. It also reduces the stress on its supply ships allowing it to supply to more ships since they require less fuel. Unlike older US warships, the PLAN relies on breakthroughs in stealth technology to avoid detection ie not getting hit to begin with so there is no need for a heavier armour on the hull for protection.

[@mathewferstl7042]

Coping

[@georgesikimeti2184]

@@TheTraveler2222no,war ships are built to fight not to save fuel , more firepower need bigger ships,can’t take a canoe ,ridiculous!,

[@miaorenfeng1]

Reference: Warships built by China in the last decade😙 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3bJqoqVds94Z7c

[@draker769]

I think they should really think about building unmanned ships which can act as advancing fleet to reduce casuality in event of war with US Navy.

[@wangyaohan8824]

even already have at least 2 autonomous drone carrier (the ship is unmanned and bring lots of drones) for testing. the drone is flying drone and submarine. so many possibilities in the future.

[@corvanphoenix]

The layer 052 & 055's are frankly terrifying. May 🇨🇳 continue to have not have any combat experience. (That one Somali UN mission not withstanding due to their limited equipment & ROE.)

[@jimcysiah4193]

Tonnage do not mean you can beat yr enemies

[@RadicalFloat_95]

I actually genuinely agree with you.

[@RadicalFloat_95]

This video is actually genuinely underated and damm and this is actually the actual real China that the actual American and British BBC propaganda mainstream media actually don't show you is actually really like and actually capable of actually doing and damm and this channel is actually genuinely underated ❤😂🎉🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳💯💯🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗿🗿🗿🔥🔥🔥.

[@malcolmyeates8212]

Actually!

[@malcolmyeates8212]

Jesus Christ!!

[@RadicalFloat_95]

@@malcolmyeates8212?

[@RK-cj4oc]

"ACtuAllY"

[@RadicalFloat_95]

@@RK-cj4oc yes but actually no and actually get a life for once you racist hater and sorry l actually couldn't hear you cause your actually that irrelevant and actually stop promoting misinformation and nobody actually asked for your opinion keyboard warrior and that's actually ironic coming from you.

[@keli4068]

PLAN's weakness is SSN

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Indeed.

[@josephpalack1440]

They’re using unmanned underwater drones in the South China Sea to try to create a “no go” zone for U.S. subs. So instead of pinning all their hopes on competing directly, they’re trying to push the U.S. subs out of the South China Sea entirely.

[@commie5211]

Because ssn is only useful during war times, it became useless once it shows itself. Can't even use them on anti-piracy missions. The cuba missile crisis, soviet subs had to yield because they didn't want ww3.

[@jackapu]

Anti submarine is the largest problem for PLAN right now and YJ 83 antiship missile is somehow outdated.

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Agree. Also the YJ-83 is being replaced by the YJ-12, a much more capable weapon.

[@miki-wong836]

China has a stronger anti-ship Eagle Strike-21 missile, which the supersonic United States can't resist at all.

[@RadicalFloat_95]

I actually genuinely agree with you ​@@miki-wong836

[@thamesshylock5626]

That's been eliminated. Now it's all YJ18 and YJ21

[@lx6917]

u can count the 4th aircraft carrier by 2028. mark this comment

[@Strategy_Analysis]

I will. Remember, I am talking about operational ships by 1 January 2028.

[@owbvbsteve]

How about one on US or Australian navy 2028. Maybe Japan. Great work

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thanks. Much appreciated. Yes, I'm planning something along those lines.

[@robertmcquade6251]

It would be interesting to know the composition of the Chinese Coast Guard and the vessels of the Chinese Fishing Militia

[@Strategy_Analysis]

I have done an introductory briefing on the China Coast Guard. Take a look.

[@kenfowler1980]

Great briefing mate!

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thanks, much appreciated. Not getting much traction though.

[@foobar3]

​@@Strategy_AnalysisI have a strong instinct that as the size of the Chinese fleet grows so will the interest in your channel. It's hard to generate organic engagement from long form educational content. I would suggest looking into AI Image2Image tools for an easy way to convert some of the existing photographs you use into thumbnails with more click power.

[@leonlok548]

Do you have UK Navy of 2028?

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Not yet.

[@lktan224]

Not worth mentioning. Uk is a sunset empire managed by idiots.

[@RadicalFloat_95]

To irrelevant

[@whiskeyriver2516]

I've been loving this channel since I found it this morning, will you be covering the JMSDF anytime soon?

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Thanks, much appreciated. Yes I plan to cover the JMSDF soon.

[@chanwu5615]

Don’t worry , we use to protect our waters. And keep away the JPS

[@bearpolo3618]

There will be at least 4 carriers, if not 5 by 2028.

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Not in operational service, which was the parameter for this briefing. They may be under construction, certainly.

[@bearpolo3618]

@@Strategy_Analysis 4 in service. The construction of the 4th carrier will be completed by 2026 the latest and in service by 2028.

[@Strategy_Analysis]

@@bearpolo3618 Thanks for the comment. Do you have a link for that? I'm happy to correct my briefing.

[@chanwu5615]

我們能羲牲一艦隊不能失一寸海 我們要強大

[@niust]

😃

[@pepelatoga2891]

It’s not about quantity. It’s about QUALITY.We heard a lot about Engines breakdown, leaking Oil. etc.

[@RadicalFloat_95]

Yes but actually no and quantity actually also has its own quality.

[@Mrbuckaroonie..]

Our drop bears will get em

[@haga-oyoctoven3526]

Why does do you still talking about tonnage ? It's obviously US Navy have it because of the tonnage of their Aircraft carriers just take a look US have 11 carriers and China just only have 3

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Simply a statement of fact. Nothing more.

[@Iamabot4708]

More tonnage doesn't equal better Comparing the capabilities of ship's one by one is a much better way of comparing the u s navy in the chinese navy, then comparing tonnage.

[@Strategy_Analysis]

@@Iamabot4708 Yes, that is correct for a capability comparison. This is for a fleet size and composition comparison, which you can now do with my briefing on the U.S. Navy of 2028.

[@Iamabot4708]

@@Strategy_Analysis I WILL Watch

[@ozsharpener]

Supply ships, say one can easily go over 80k tons, contribute a lot more on tonnage than the 11 carriers. USN is intended for global use.

[@bbyl1485]

估计能到300万吨吧。比美国450万还是小。2032年差不多吧。

[@Strategy_Analysis]

好的。 谢谢

[@miki-wong836]

如果要比吨位肯定是不能够跟他比的，就十几艘航空母舰的吨位都已经很难超越。但是如果在数量上面，大陆已经超过他很多了。

[@Strategy_Analysis]

@@miki-wong836 Yes, tonnage is not a good indicator in and of itself. Many other things need to be considered. I point it out simply as a statement of fact, nothing more.

[@ChrisGutting-b1h]

Doesn't matter how big ur navy is its how well there trained Chinese navy is a starter navy the U.S. navy has been doing this for years also people seem to forget U.S. navy has the 2 nd biggest airforce in the world now guess who's number1

[@gti500]

When was the last successful war against a pier and are those who fought it still in the services. The answer is no.

[@Matthew-jv1ee]

We better pull out finger out ....its sad what the govt has done to our services...im glad im no longer serving...

[@tagguh1]

What does this even mean? The United States has just approved the most money it's ever approved towards the Defense Budget in the latest NDAA. The US has never had more advanced weaponry in history. I don't understand what you're even getting at lol.

[@Iamabot4708]

I think he's talking about European governments and their Canadian and Australian counterparts. The american military is still in amazing shape definitely diminishing but amazing shake​@@tagguh1

[@kimphuong5395]

To bad Ausie doesn't have a shadows fleet .why not just copy it like a parrot replete other talking points