Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History - Part 3

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[@murder_ficus2597]

OMG I LOVE ARCTIC EXPLORATION YEEEEEEEAH BOIIIIIIII

[@carterwow]

Nah

[@BigPapaClaire]

it's truly mind-boggling to realize that bob saw the great depression, nazis, first-hand war in korea, and sonichu, all in one lifetime

[@sloideh]

That poor man

[@SimonStrange]

Clearly Sonichu was the most devastating.

[@DACrowley]

I'm glad he didn't have to experience what happen post-sonichu

[@justacomment97]

He is the grandmaster Sonichu

[@justacomment97]

Without him we wouldn’t have sonichu

[@tysonkk9084]

I like how many side characters in Chris’s life are normal average people but because they interacted with Chris at one point in their life they are known on the internet.

[@milkwater1204]

"side characters"

[@tlayor9832]

@@milkwater1204 we're all side characters in chris's life, everything that happened before he was born is just a backstory

[@houserhouse]

@@tlayor9832 everything after his death will simply be the epilogue

[@Elvusmiw]

Legends

[@blankblank2370]

@Aileen W We're just the thoughts of the Godhead, Sonichu.

[@LandPirate62]

“He seems intelligent enough to understand that he does not understand, and that is the hardest part of all.” I think about this a lot.

[@jeanjean777]

Tragic

[@Luthien7025]

I agree its like a cruel form of torture.

[@d00gz_]

Absolute sage wisdom, and it’s coming from a random university student observing an autistic sonic fan. Wild.

[@gemesis23_LadyBlueEyes]

Very deep. I was thinking the same thing when I heard that line. I thought to myself, what a bright girl. I bet she's now a very successful writer.

[@levi_lover25]

Such a cold line and yet I can't help but think she was wrong. After all, Chris watches this documentary as religiously as any Christory enjoyers and always comment under the videos to compliment the accuracy or add more. Clearly Chris is just delusional and doesn't actually listen or understand at all the recaps at the end.

[@freethepeople4093]

The fact that at age 24, Chris still fully believed in Santa just goes to show the lack of his parents ambitions to help him grow into an adult, regardless of his limitations.

[@dakotastein9499]

i dont think he litterally believed in santa,rather it was a figure of speech.... but given that he fully believes himself a divine being i suppose anything is possible.

[@whoknowswhocares885]

What else are you expecting from people who change their child’s name because he thought God spoke to him from an animatronic bear?

[@karmickhaleesi]

@@whoknowswhocares885something something fnaf joke

[@bensreflection3985]

@@karmickhaleesi hor hor horhor hor hor horhor horhor

[@offy0ur4ss_48]

Are you a Santa denier 😟

[@ctshaffer1999]

The entirety of Edgar Allen Poe’s life was probably less depressing than the Christmas morning video

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

edgar allen poe was the original emo.

[@manicnovae]

Edgar Allen Poe and Chris, hey that’s a good comparison. Poe married his cousin Eddie boy also liked keeping the family “close” if you know what I mean

[@desertgirl3374]

@@manicnovae 🤣🤢

[@willmaud2359]

@@manicnovae Einstein did it too. Also undoubtedly some of your ancestors.

[@AleF202]

@@manicnovae Marriage between Cousins was not really all that unusual back in the 19th century. It’s still quite common in some parts of the world, and that includes some of the more secluded areas in rural America. It’s still disgusting, however.

[@DaVeganZombie]

"He seems intelligent enough to understand that he doesn't understand..." Man that's harsh. True, but harsh.

[@Jon-mh9lk]

She listed God as an author...

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

@@Jon-mh9lk I mean, Chris said that God and a bear at a mall gave him his name.

[@How2walkthroughsAB]

@J. Check I asmmed that as well.

[@TheKnoxvicious]

The sad part for that person is, history will never remember her or be affected by her existence unlike Chris. Chris's life is a shit show, but it's possibly the best representation of how the internet can impact a man.

[@pompousproductions]

I mean the doctor at the end of part 2 also said Chris is well aware of his own limitations. They just didn’t use such flowery language in doing so.

[@Smiles122]

The gift exchange will always be the saddest thing I’ve ever seen.

[@mrflibble1259]

It's so crushingly depressing. You can hear in Bob's voice that he is a broken man, and Chris' obliviousness to this makes it so much worse

[@kcninetales5973]

@@mrflibble1259 Meanwhile, Barbara Snorlax doesn't give a fuck as she starts her mental decline.

[@guilhermehank4938]

Bob wished he was back on Korea...

[@famicom180]

imagine being a 70 year old man and receiving a child's TV program on a format that's being fazed out.

[@chonchjohnch]

Try reading the plaque on the dream shed

[@Hellroxas]

imagine how loud and dramatic that 'NOOOOOO!' was to get banned from the mall

[@holycrapitsvincent]

blud thinkin he darth vader

[@flaker_oats]

@@holycrapitsvincent💀

[@garymcderp1146]

I imagine the skies darkening and the storefront windows shattering.

[@hannable70]

Something else happened or more was said than was told in this story. I don't believe for an instant that he was banned from the mall simply for crying "Noooooo!" Either that or that entire mall establishment had a bias against Chris and was looking for reasons to get rid of him. Which in itself makes sense I guess. I just wonder if he stalked women in the mall or something ... but just didn't have anything concrete to ban him with, so they used his outburst as a reason. Because it wasn't like he screamed anything profane .... just seems an awfully trivial reason to ban someone. There HAS to be more to that story.

[@dirtyASSS]

@@hannable70 they threw him out for the same reason they always do: he scares their customers away.

[@ralphbabaganoosh3229]

"I'm not loitering. I'm looking for a 18-22 year old boyfriend-free girl." I love classic Chris

[@theeasyway9432]

I wonder how he’s going to Morph

[@2diefor]

He was sick of looking for one so he became one.

[@DBZAOTA482]

I'm not loitering but I am

[@CheezersDeluxe]

@@theeasyway9432 Boy are you in for a wild ride.

[@theeasyway9432]

Otaku1015 that was 2 months ago. I caught up

[@SmarkusAurelius]

Geno: "A snowglobe, with him in it" Chris: "A snowglobe, with me in it"

[@potionthekhat8273]

how bout that..

[@honestrage1599]

Lol

[@Ashethetics]

I think about these lines randomly now, like in the grocery line, and laugh to myself. Just this combination in particular.

[@BeardMax94]

Geno is a poet - makes a rhyme everytime

[@medium.kahuna]

I was the 420th like, that will be all...

[@thespiceman9367]

I feel like a lot of people gloss over the fact that at the age of 24, Chris believed Santa existed, let alone believed this without any influence of trolls

[@Chronoic]

Well, hes 39 now, and he believe Sonichu and cartoon characters exist. So I don't think people are shocked to hear he thought Santa was real at 24.

[@Brandonhayhew]

@@Chronoic Chris probably believe his merge is real. I think Chris mental health has long since collapsed

[@pintatatphpaobe9563]

He didn't actually believe in Santa. His whole "I hope Santa brings me a boyfriend-free girl shtick" is just him wishing Sara Hammer will come again

[@friendlyenemy2314]

I still believe in Santa at 34, less of a fat jolly man who gives presents to those who ask, and more of a metaphor of a time of year everyone is happy and warm together

[@matthewphillips8855]

Someone with developmental problems can believe in Santa well into their 20s, i think ita even more bizarre that Chris was so confident that Santa would bring him a boyfriend-free girl like a present under the tree.

[@CTvash98]

The gift exchange was so sad. Chris kept giving his parents gifts he would want. Than when we finally see something his mother would like (a snowglobe with him inside) he just has to put a damn Sonichu in it as well. The guy literally can't think outside of his own wants.

[@Axel-is2sp]

Yeah I feel so conflicted everytime I see that scene. Bob and Barb were not great parents but fuck that scene is sad, you know Chris definitely went and just kept them after giving them to them too.

[@defaultname7685]

Did you miss the part where he has literal autism?

[@Axel-is2sp]

@@defaultname7685 just because he has autism doesn't make it less sad man.

[@calthegreatest]

​@@defaultname7685autism doesn't make it so that you are unable to learn and adapt to the environment. I'm autistic, much less so than Chris but still diagnosed and have similar struggles. I think a difference you would likely notice if it was just his autism is that the gifts would somehow relate to his parents. I have a hard time with gifts also, and gifts I have given my parents in the past are a combination of my own interests with stuff I know they like. He has the capabilities to learn and understand what others would like, he's just trapped in his own world and wants.

[@violetistired]

​@@defaultname7685i have Autism too, but when I give gifts I don't think about what I like, I think about what the gift receiver would like. but yes, his autism is definitely a factor into why he's so self centered, along with his upbringing.

[@tinywaterdrinker5136]

"He seems intelligent enough to understand that he does not understand, and that is the hardest part." It should be illegal to put something that deep and empathetic right before drawings of a pokesonic comic.

[@earningattorney9887]

And about a man that would one day rape his own elderly dementia suffering mother

[@biodudezerothree9236]

@@earningattorney9887 The terrible part is that nobody will ever be held accountable for the internet taking a miguided and in all likelyhood depressed mentally handicapped man and turning him into a lonely monster.

[@MothCooch]

@@jhBravo No one deserves to be raped even if she did abuse Chris, that doesn't give him a right to rape her.

[@madelineruml8846]

@UCGdz0lNahdDnjsjSVFkCeqA nah, fuck that all the way. She was not a good mother at all, but no one deserves to be sexually assaulted.

[@mijadreams3486]

@@jhBravo i agree with you. antinatalism

[@SproutTime]

"Chris attempts at an embrace with his mother but ends up hurting her instead. He does it again" is depressingly prophetic in 2021

[@johnwilliams919]

Foreshadowing...maybe his life actually is an anime.

[@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine]

@@johnwilliams919 The only question that remain is what kind of anime ?

[@jirai_pup]

@@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine a horror

[@JeRefuseDeBienPrononcerBaleine]

@@jirai_pup So that means we are due for the monster's comeback.

[@davizitopa7252]

I think originals of the Sonichu issue 0 he handed out in the convention oughta be worth some money by now, especially for people who thinks Chris has not yet reached his lowest (an opinion I fully share).

[@kfdyy]

"There has to be at least one 18-23 Year Old Boyfriend-Free, caring, smoke-free, non-alcoholic, white girl out there somewhere" Now that's a Tinder bio if I've ever seen one.

[@piepiepie57]

@@PodreyJenkin138 Right? Even if he wasn't Chris those requirements are incredibly hard to find

[@Halagini]

@@piepiepie57 If you live in the Bronx, maybe. If you're in college or just around that age in general, finding someone who meets that description is an exceptionally easy task; no doubt I pass tens of them daily.

[@EwanMcG67]

Im so using that, if a girl thinks its weird there unwatched, if they know its from the one and only Christopher chandler imma put a ring on it

[@lenonel3286]

Too bad they all eat hot chip and lie

[@Brandonhayhew]

A girl like that would never date someone like Chris chan

[@Pyraticalpunk]

Chris literally wanted government distributed girlfriends

[@richjjames7462]

His dad should have helped him get laid to calm his madness. I think in Holland retarded people do get paid for sexual therapist (?) Also his dad seems old fashioned and straight. He could have found his son a woman he could never meet again

[@Hehemann007]

Based

[@denjidenji9162]

Literally an incel

[@Pyraticalpunk]

@@denjidenji9162 funny thing is Chris is more well known than any incel

[@denjidenji9162]

@@Pyraticalpunk yeah, though I wonder if anyone wants to be know in the same way as Chris...

[@shaolinotter]

Imagine using "I had pink eye" as a pickup line

[@dawsonfoorfour]

And having the worst hygiene out there and believing that ax body spray is the equivalent of a shower.

[@ChupeTTe]

@@dawsonfoorfour Yuk

[@0ater]

i mean in some context it could possibly work maybe???

[@johnevans7180]

SWAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG nah lol, a normal person would just say they were born with it, and then explain it when they actually knew the person if they felt like it.

[@0ater]

@@johnevans7180 born with pink eye?

[@clintmckee1751]

Poor Bob, encountering Barb in that bar was the worst thing that ever happened to him.

[@adrianpaul1985]

she literally tainted his reputation

[@guilhermehank4938]

Clint McKee barb always was a toxic influence on whatever she came close (her own fucking son couldn't stand her and bob especially). Sadly it's a trait Chris got from her...

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

bob was a shit to his other kids, but barb made him worse and so did chris and bob shoulda booted his ass out when he was 18, but no he kept him and kept coddling and pandering to chris and allowing him to be what he is, with out getting him help

[@Maxisamo1]

I don't feel bad for Bob, he waited far too long to intervene and try to raise Chris right. He ALWAYS took Chris' side in his high school and University class time.

[@Maxisamo1]

@@Shannonbarnesdr1 Kicking Chris out wouldn't have helped anything. Bob just needed to actually be a parent and teach Chris how to do things properly like finding jobs, keeping up a conversation in a normal way, learn to take criticism and not assume everyone saying bad things = being mean, and understand that no one is gonna want to be in a relationship with you if all you do is LITERALLY advertise yourself like a job posting.

[@siren7362]

Amazing to see a Korean war vet born in the 1920s have to deal with the creation of Sonichu lmaooo. As someone in another comment said, the generation gap is indescribable

[@modustrollens4806]

The funny part is that chris thought he was a world war 2 vet in the animal crossing video he made

[@SomeUsernameSomeoneElseTookIt]

@@modustrollens4806 you just made it worse

[@HansDester]

@@modustrollens4806 To be fair I think he just messed it up. He said he was in Korea for WW2. I could be wrong of course.

[@HansDester]

His father seems like he accepted his son back then. So I think even if he thought it odd, he probably supported his sons creations.

[@DesolatedChild018]

I’m 29, and things like Fortnite and TikTok are things that feels so distant from me that I cannot get into - Yet, they really aren’t much different from what I grew up and use to this day. I cannot even fathom how must have been for someone who grew during the fucking Great Depression Era and was old enough to serve as a military engineer by the time of the Korean War (take into consideration, that Bob was there around the same age Chris were in this episode) to wrap his head around early Internet culture. Even less these media properties Chris obsessed over, not only Sonic and Pokémon. No wonder they couldn’t deal with all the shit Chris got involved. Like, I suppose fundamentally doesn’t excuse bad parenting, but I think it’s somewhat understandable that they (Bob in particular) failed to respond properly. I imagine half this shit sounded borderline alien.

[@tumulovermelho93]

i cant believe Chris Chan actually did the Darth Vader NOOOOOOOO out loud in real life. it's amazing how Chris NEVER emotes like a normal human, all he knows is how to mimic what he sees on TV.

[@pinthetailproductions4859]

what part of the video is it?

[@KowalSonn]

Or when security came to ask him to leave and he starts monologue instead. Those delusions should be solved by parents but Bob was too old to care and Barb wasn't a good parent either

[@dontlookfo2763]

im like this but im also autistic so

[@codycat6]

@@dontlookfo2763 same here :p

[@austinharris1045]

Seems like a textbook sign of autism.

[@myquest666420]

So I looked up Wes Isley, the magician that stole Chris’ first love from him. Totally real. Totally still doing magic. He seriously could have been the best villain of Chris’ life. The evil magician, Wes Isley. Amazing.

[@italianstallion7272]

He any good?

[@myquest666420]

Italianstallion 727 he actually seems pretty fucking cool. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5q0nqeIjLRlbbc

[@myquest666420]

Italianstallion 727 looks like he’s pretty tiny, and hates 12 year olds on KZbin giving up the secrets of the trade lol

[@hyper4831]

Looks like he fooled Penn and Teller so that's pretty gamer. Also seems like a really happy family man.

[@Cibernetize]

@@italianstallion7272 He was on Penn and Teller's show, so he's got enough talent to get him on TV at the very least

[@rafalafel9214]

Chris’s dad seems to be the most depressed man I’ve ever seen, someone who hates his life but wants and has to support his family

[@FuryanJedi13]

Both he and Barb sound utterly depressed in the Christmas video. It's like they fully realised "this is the hell we are forced to live in".

[@MizantropMan]

I believe at that point he just accepted that this is where he dies. He was in his late 70s, too late for a fresh start. Yes, he had quite some money saved up, but he chose to not abandon this family as well, live out the few years he has left and leave the money to them. Then right after he died, these people immediately wasted all the money he left them. All of it, gone, just like that, South Park style, and after that, his disfunctional son either destroyed or sold peices of his father's soul for children toys. Bob was the only one of this disfunctional trio to deserve better. Yes, he also deserved punishment for what he had done before, but this is like something out of a greek tragedy.

[@FuryanJedi13]

@@MizantropMan I know, right? And all those precious keepsakes that he amassed over the years? Chris and Barb sold them to pay off their mounting debts, only to blow it all on worthless shit they don't need. Really tragic.

[@BasileosHerodou]

@@uriurofferson8831 So Bob's bloodline may have a suitable successor thank goodness

[@an6350]

takes strength to not leave... i would have left my fam early on if i were him

[@maikol4128]

The disappointment and regret Bob must've felt over the countless unfulfilled dreams he had envisioned for his son and himself bring me damn close to shedding a tear...

[@the-NightStar]

I mean he wasn't really that great of a guy in this, if you step back a bit further and look at it. He is a bit of an enabler and his past is host to regrets in how he raised other children. But I can see why at least a little of this narrative seems to easy to believe, though. Even if Bob wasn't that good of a person in the past, having a son like that is way more disproportionate karma than anyone ever needs. I mean, I think if there is a god, he's disappointed in CWC, too, but damn.

[@syndromeofadowns]

He had OTHER kids

[@Ashethetics]

He was also a racist homophobe and had staunch republican and kind of 1950s views of a household where a woman should look after a man etc., that's where Chris learned the behaviour from.

[@justinlumbago5246]

@@Ashethetics he also was from a time where that was normal thought, I mean, not everyone did and it doesn't make it necessarily right, but I mean, it's a bit more understandable than someone from the current generation having those thoughts

[@Mongo121314]

@@justinlumbago5246 he was a product of his generation from one side of the spectrum. And you are right while his line of thinking was more widely accepted back then it wasnt everyone and perceptions have changed over time. The thing people from today have to get better at is seeing things from the perspective of those from the past, or in other words to understand why they thought that way you have to engulf yourself in the time period they came out of. Otherwise you have these overly sensitive crybabies banning things from history because of modern day perceptions, which is dangerous and leads to us gravitating towards deleting and altering history in order to preserve feelings... Oh wait....too late.

[@meowxp444]

that Christmas tape for some reason broke my heart. bob just seemed so defeated, and tired. barbra was just sitting there and pitting her 22-year old son’s childish gifts to her. what broke my heart the most, though, was chris’s obviously obliviousness to the fact that his dad was tired of him, and all his mom was doing was pitting him. the story of chris-chan is truly a sorrowful one.

[@colinr0380]

"Let's go back downstairs, where it's warm"

[@ArchMithrillas6976]

Meow

[@gtfokaren]

You reap what you sow. I dont feel sorry for those suffering the consequences of their lazy, selfish, ignorant, actions.

[@rift7573]

@@gtfokaren Okay but you should

[@raywillian4186]

@accelerationquanta5816how is it cringe? It’s bob and Barbara’s fault for a big end result of how Chris turned out, they refused to get their child the help they needed

[@opadrip]

The fact that Chris legitimately expected a girl shaped gift under his tree says quite a lot on what he thinks women are.

[@ShamblesMD]

Something you need to buy on Black Friday?

[@squirrel_killer-]

@@ShamblesMD He wouldn't want it, because it'd black and he was and still is extremely racist.

[@doxiedaddy7784]

Based Chris-Chan

[@Zoe-tg4dl]

Shambles M.D. he believes in santa so you’d need to ask the elves to grab her from the north pole

[@darkrider189]

OBJECTS

[@uzaiyaro]

>makes up own word >still misspells it Seems legit.

[@Blakbox92]

MERRIED SENOR COMIC

[@Jokah_baybee]

@@ryanbailey3176 >calling them "meme arrows"

[@thronritter6295]

@@ryanbailey3176 >thinks they are meme arrows An hero

[@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124]

@@thronritter6295 become an hero

[@thronritter6295]

@@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124 no

[@chromasus9983]

Every single episode I am reminded of what a *cancer* Sonichu has been on Chris's life ever since its inception. The moment he came up with it, it pushes itself *everywhere* in his life. His games, his drawings, school projects, gifts to people, Christmas decorations. It's absurd to what degree Chris takes his obsession with that """"ORIGINAL""""" character of his.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

That one school project was one hell of a butterfly effect.

[@funkyweapon1981]

Original is a generous word.

[@starplatinum5927]

@@funkyweapon1981 that's for sure

[@its_drez]

@@funkyweapon1981 hence the quotations.

[@thecamelchannel1467]

@@Klonoahedgehog Wow, that's the best example of the butterfly effect I've ever seen, thank you for that

[@thesmartpotato1854]

I'm honestly impressed how the narrator maintains an indifferent tone even when reading the most ridiculous lines or pronouncing spelling mistakes with great commitment, he sounds like a tired mcdonalds employee, props to him, that is the most hilarious part of this series

[@nicolebrown622]

Mies

[@jacktodd3768]

I think it’s text to speech

[@ThePainkiller9995]

​@@jacktodd3768you're text to speech

[@jacktodd3768]

@@ThePainkiller9995 your tomato soup looks disgusting my guy

[@milleymilley]

@@jacktodd3768 it's not haha he's been on podcasts nd whatnot and it's weird hearing actual emotion coming from him. i thought the same thing LOL

[@HolkHugan]

To anyone that has started watching this series: there is no happy ending. It's all downhill from here.

[@antis0cial426]

Is the series worth watching all the way through?

[@HolkHugan]

@@antis0cial426 I watched it till the most recent video because I got too into it. Chris' story is a long, sad, frustrating, and unbelievable one.

[@thesaexplorer]

I just started watching this documentary after KZbin recommended me to a video of chris screaming at the camera telling people to take down the videos of him and his house and his dad screaming at him, fearing that they'll be kicked out of their house because of how horrible the conditions are? I honestly don't know the significance of this person yet. Was he a youtuber from the early days of KZbin?

[@HolkHugan]

@@thesaexplorer He wasn't a KZbinr, but he started just uploading videos because he wanted to. He had no schedule to upload, and would upload random rants and apologies to people that don't exist.

[@thesaexplorer]

@@HolkHugan thank you for the clarification. I just got done with part 7. Poor guy just couldn't get away from those trolls

[@Bonklyboi]

In the christmas video they're like... so disappointed in him... it's hard to watch.

[@chrisking3566]

realSnickerShine well, Bob is at least. To me, it seems like barb doesn’t give a fuck.

[@the-NightStar]

@@chrisking3566 I think Barb has just given into the self-delusion. In her mind, CWC is a massively successful content creator and internet celebrity that has achieved a world-wide level of fame and love. She continues on in a very special little dimension of unlimited hope, pride and contentment. I don't think she needs drugs. CWC is her drug.

[@masterof4elements826]

My last Christmas with my grandmother was "celebrated" in the spare activity room at the end of the hall at the nursing home she was at. We all knew that she wouldn't be there to celebrate with us the next year. We look happier in those photos than Chris and his parents do in the Christmas video.

[@Bonklyboi]

@@masterof4elements826 that is the roughest shit bro omg.

[@robashton8606]

@Eaxl That "e-celebrity" isn't going to help either of them when the bank forecloses on their house because Chris wasted whatever money he managed to beg online on animé pillows and Lego. It isn't going to pay for the palliative care she'll need in a few years, or save Chris from the inevitable final act of this shit show either.

[@unholychazer]

Chris running away from security while screaming "CURSE YE HA ME HA" is something I wish I'd been able to witness.

[@mrthaimaster]

Yea kind would be fun to see

[@TylerB-my1kr]

It's almost poetic

[@soft_machine_]

I would pay to see the entire Manajerk situation play out. Like starting with his table at McD's and ending at the county jail

[@Flesh_Wizard]

That would have been absolutely hilarious 🤣

[@killerkitten7534]

You know, it’s extremely unlikely, but there’s a non 0 chance that the security cam footage of that is sitting on some VHS/DVD in some PVCC archives covered in dust

[@aidanchilders9043]

Chris making the ultimate villain of Sonichu a personification of the fear and shame of graduating high school is kinda like HP Lovecraft writing The Shadow Over Innsmouth as a reflection of his horror at discovering he was a quarter Welsh.

[@comradeacerbus6397]

Fun fact, Lovecraft sufferer from night terrors throughout his childhood, and several of his most famous monsters were inspired by them.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

@@comradeacerbus6397Fun fact: those night terrors were actually prophetic dreams, & the species responsible for giving them to him didn’t want other races to fall to the elder gods

[@Dagpar]

​@accelerationquanta5816Oof

[@Flesh_Wizard]

HP Lovecraft ❌ CW Chandler ✅

[@emospider-man6498]

I think Count Graduon is the most genius character in all of fiction. What a concept. It's like with the Private Villa of Corrupted Citizens, it's just so left-field but also so ridiculously simple.

[@featgorgon2285]

after recent events, I shudder at what Chris might’ve done had he had a sister

[@Wufyren]

Plot twist : he did .

[@doxiedaddy7784]

Trolljak. Cursed image

[@Zoe-tg4dl]

Ren F. Clark *did*

[@alireza2470]

He would turn into Nick Bate #2

[@animefan2454]

He has a sis but thank God she's older and has a high paying job and not a anywhere near this failed genetic defect

[@JJokerDude]

"...if my parents should pass away, I will be a very lonely virgin." well this didn't age well

[@justinr.4359]

Mad foreshadowing from Chris Chan

[@surelock3221]

Well... Barbara is still alive and he's not a virgin anymore, so I guess he's got that going for him

[@tomellis2419]

@@surelock3221 Jail! that joke caught me wrong

[@pp-pq2zb]

@@surelock3221 😟

[@sad_ghost1702]

I just died of laughter cuz of this comment

[@keegobricks9734]

Watching bob read that christmas "gift" card was like watching a man being forced to tie his own noose before his execution. Sad, exhausted, resigned to his fate, being humiliated for one last time.

[@rinoz47]

Phooey

[@afterthought8368]

It was pretty harrowing to watch.

[@toxogandhi]

Phooey made me laugh.

[@WhoTookMyMirr]

The long silence when he realizes that his 22 year old son still believes in Santa Claus says it all.

[@theunlawfulsponge5908]

He definitely read it like there was a firing squad behind the camera all aimed at him

[@jacksonstarship6179]

18:04 it amazes me that a random student who observed Chris has written one of the most profound and succinct descriptions of such a complex individual to date with nothing more than having seen Chris around campus.

[@whiskedragon]

of everything that has been exhibited from this series, "He seems intelligent enough to understand that he does not understand, and that is the hardest part of all." is so hauntingly, devastatingly accurate that I can never forget it

[@jackrose5077]

I agree with this 1,000,000%. I think that was brilliantly written.

[@Angel_Investor_Music]

I thought it was really pretentious and condescending. The part "Does he have the capacity to understand these works" comes off as very elitist. Like she thinks she's so much smarter than everyone else.

[@CuongN24]

@@Angel_Investor_Music well to be fair, she is, most normal people are much smarter than Chris

[@Angel_Investor_Music]

@@CuongN24 I agree, Chris is dumb as a rock. But she couldn't have possibly known that as someone who only observed him from a distance. All she knew was that he was some awkward guy who liked drawing comics, yet she wrote this elaborate blog post about him and his apparent lack of intellect. That fact makes her sound extremely judgmental to me. She seems like the sort of person who looks on down on anyone whose behavior differs from the norm.

[@planet9441]

I keep being impressed by his creative efforts and then I remember he isn’t 11.

[@johnross5098]

Ha ha

[@BionicleFanatic100]

If he had been that age at the time it would have been amusing at the least, but he was 23.

[@alicesacco9329]

His Sonichu comics remember me very similar comics I did when I was around 9/13 years old. BUT, what is most funny, my drawing were also very similar of those of CWC, style, proportuions (lack off) etc.

[@Laner255]

That exactly was his problem. He had a mind of a 11 child, but the agressive impulse of an sexualy frustrated male...

[@Daniel_WR_Hart]

@@alicesacco9329 I'm guessing the spelling was similar too

[@Droanux]

"If my parents were to pass away, I will be a very lonely virgin." Holy fuck there isn't a wine in existence that aged as well as that quote.

[@Zoe-tg4dl]

i’m laughing because if i don’t i will cry

[@Brandonhayhew]

After what he done to his mother. I think Chris will never be happy.

[@futab05]

He's not a virgin anymore. Just ask Barb

[@BeesUSA]

@@futab05 She wouldn't remember

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

Oh god...

[@redsphinx113]

"I had pink eye" Smooth as fuck. Chris, smooth as fuck.

[@thiscommonsinkt3367]

Man. And They say Chivalry is Dead

[@afterthought8368]

'I was pretty grossed out by the pink eye story, but I told him anyway...' - literally had me in stitches XD

[@shinkenger2011]

Smoooooth as a cheese grater, my HFA Virgin w/Rage.

[@alexandermoran4728]

Smooth as lightning McQueen's first road

[@vortex_all9055]

smoother than the california sidewalk under constant shade

[@phantomlordNL]

According to Anna's post about the crazy pacer (Chris), she mentions another person who stalks the mall. 'He was an okay-looking guy, not evil-looking like Creepy Molester Dude'. This implies that there is another person who they refer to as 'Creepy Molester Dude'. That freaking mall...

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

Given what happened with his mom, it’s hard to believe there was ever a point he was preferable

[@LakesideTrey]

@@lyokianhitchhikerMy theory is that they time traveled to try to help their younger self, inadvertently creating the situations that les to their downfall

[@bookplate]

This is Virginia we're talking about here.

[@darkworlddenizen]

I think she just missed typing "a", as in "not evil looking like 'a' creepy molester dude"

[@TeamFortressFag]

@@darkworlddenizen She did capitalise Creepy Molester Dude tho

[@tapirsareunder-appreciated2272]

I feel like one of the issues with Chris is that his parents constantly explained away behaviors with "well, he's autistic" (hence why he brings it up constantly) without actually *understanding autism.* They likely never took the time to ask his reasoning for the gifts. You can see how dead inside they are, but either he a) sincerely thought they would like them, probably choosing things he personally likes but that remind him of them, or b) fundamentally misunderstands that people can have different interests (this is common with very young kids, too). You can see in the anniversary video from the last episode that he loves them a lot. Seriously. Yes, it ends with focusing on him, but he took an obsession of his and found a way to fit others into it, and in a way that would take quite some time, too! He has, or had, such a good heart, but unchecked ego and lack of more in-depth, long-term social counseling REALLY screwed him over.

[@adinocc2042]

Yeah, I agree too. I feel like them not getting him help or bothering to understand more exactly what his issues were, is a form of abuse that he'll always have to deal with, or as is the case, not.

[@TheMasterTelevision]

No he bought those gifts for himself. He was just pretended to "gift" them, knowing Barb doesn't want a lego set, and Bob doesn't want a VHS of a kids show.

[@tapirsareunder-appreciated2272]

@@TheMasterTelevision While that's possible, it's VERY common for people with autism to struggle with looking outside their own wants when buying gifts. A former friend of mine bought me a figurine of a character I knew nothing about for the same reason. He saw it, thought "that's so cool!", and was unable to take a step back from his view on it to think "it's cool to me, but people have different tastes." It's also very common with young kids. It's rarely ever a trick -- most of the time, it's an egocentric mindset, not in the vanity sense, but in the psychological "struggles to remember other people have their own separate thoughts" sense.

[@albelnoxroxursox]

Yeah people are going on in a different reply thread about how D I S T U R B I N G it is and how EVIL ("innocently evil" anyway) Chris Chan is and how that's exemplified from that scene. But I'm like??? He clearly just doesn't understand gift giving. He thinks "I love this thing + I love my parents therefore good gift!" There's nothing evil in that. It's just that he has the social understanding of a child under the age of 10 but with all the hormones and desires of post-puberty.

[@blastortoise]

Well when he was in his formative years autism was still not widely known about how it works. Fuck even today people don't know that not having it is more rare than not.

[@vooder]

Geno not correcting the typos when reading aloud and saying things like "who cries out 'no' while shrugging" and "he then farts" are subtle touches that help push this documentary series from good to great.

[@FemCmdrShepard]

I laughed out loud at the "wht".

[@ugoboom]

'he then farts' left me fucking dying, documentaries should not be this funny

[@Ashethetics]

"After eatingme nuggets"

[@Ashethetics]

It's the deadpan documentarian delivery as well that totally sells them all.

[@rogergoodel188]

Yo when he said “assme ” I cried

[@PMarie-sm8vi]

I feel bad for his father, who clearly had so much hope for his son and was so proud of him, only to end up dealing with a 22-year-old brony obsessed with his cruddy o/c and finding a girlfriend. the letter from the first episode and the dream-shack make me want to cry.

[@dickkickem8424]

Wait till you learn about his demise

[@vogelchenzwitschert8754]

The father had hopes, and still he expected his son to continue his hording, never got him the recommended psychological help, married a woman who was known for alienating and badly treating her other children... Yeah sounds like a great guy.

[@mememan3424]

@@vogelchenzwitschert8754 he was both great and not great

[@TheKain202]

@@vogelchenzwitschert8754 Bob wasn't a hoarder, dumbass. The stuff he collected was meticulously organized and cared for. Like his vinyls dating all the way back since the 50's and a stamp collection started in the 40's ranged from actually valuable, to genuinely priceless. Too bad most of it went up in smoke when Chris accidentally burned the house down, and sold whatever survived for peanuts before Bob's corpse even cooled. To buy legos. Barbara was the hoarder, bitch kept everything from moth eaten clothes to candy wrappings. And the few times Bob actually tried to make a stand, she would fly off her handle, lose her fucking shit and threaten suicide. The Lumberjack wasn't perfect, but Snorlax is an abomination and the worst thing that happened to either of the Chandlers.

[@jacobohnstad4432]

@@vogelchenzwitschert8754 yeah "good guys" don't exist. These are real people with real flaws. Stop being insufferable, it's okay to feel bad for people.

[@themrsauce]

6:27 Barb says "Merry Christmas, Robert" to Bob, and it's literally so sad. There's literally so much sadness in her voice that it shines light to the state of both of their lives. The both of them know their son is beyond repair and are forever trapped in this house full of trash until one or all of them die. They lack the motivation to educate and help their son change for the better, and they both know this is the price they pay for it. The Christmas video is insanely depressing.

[@NoGoodNameHelpPLZ]

I knew I wasn't the only one who thought his parents were kinda sad in this video

[@user-si5fm8ql3c]

The whole thing is just tragic, his parents have no one to blame but themselves and thats just horrible

[@vulk7183]

Well yeah of course On the other hand instead of feeling sad for his parents and closer family we'd have to also admit how the carry fault in all of this, to one degree or the other Your parental upbringing, especially the late childhood, early and mid tween and teen years of all our lives are the most important and character-building Whatever trauma does or doesn't happen in adolecense or not shapes us ultimately and makes us the person we are today In the video it seems to me like the parents and relatives of Chris have all given up a long time which is understandable BUT YET no tangable excuse for why he turned out the way he did Autism or whatever may have played a role yeah sure as I was diagnosed too, still there had to be some major malparenting and illtreatment involved in his early childhood and history My guess personally is actually that Chris was treated "too good" as we say here, I see him as Mama's little boy, who was coddled and protected from the bad bad dangerous outside world Especially when it came to women or "females" as some basement-dwellers nowadays call it (🤣) He still had that little-boy-ish thinking of girls and women as these angelic, innocent goddess-princesses On the other hand tho these kind of sad, lonely and desperate young men in todays times see everything in black and white and only have two different types of girls/ women they encounter in their lives: The dirty, nasty, bitchy, feminist, no-good wh*** or the chastized holy Madonna they see perhaps in their own mother, very fitting in this situation since he that one day probably said to himself: "Well, if I can't find a women LIKE HER, I'm just gonna get HER myself (his mother)"... Whatever it is, that's my paragraph and contribution in hopefully o.k. English

[@FuryanJedi13]

She says "Merry Christmas, Robert", but the unspoken message is "This is the hell we have made for ourselves and now we must suffer in it for the rest of our miserable lives".

[@misterspinach8659]

2 horrible parents realizing that they've raised (or lack thereof) an even more horrible thoughtles, self absorbed turd goblin.

[@samtownend6744]

The fact Chris drives is terrifying

[@JoJo-uy6dy]

not anymore

[@AntiqueBambi]

ROLLING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND-

[@reinerbraun9103]

That’s why I shat my pants when the license plate was mentioned

[@Andre-by4su]

This is one of those "only in America" things

[@Andre-by4su]

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 yeah, mainly that's what I meant. It's crazy how many things he can afford without much work and coming from a seemingly "poor" family

[@hughrobbins6797]

Drink every time he says ‘boyfriend free girl’

[@imsiepimsie]

Hugh Robbins my liver will fail.

[@ccda3324]

@@imsiepimsie Don't worry. Your liver will never fail as hard as Chris did at life

[@ForrestFox626]

My liver never did anything wrong!

[@CosmicChaiLatte]

That amount of alcohol could drop a bull elephant

[@scarydorito]

Instructions unclear Got my sonichu stuck in the fan

[@bubbafontleroy]

His insistence on saying the full term of “boyfriend-free-girlfriend” every time, cracks me up.

[@7a9b8c1111]

Seriously, it feels like he’s breaking some kind of fourth wall when he adds “18-22”

[@bigslurpee2078]

I know Bob had flaws, but I really felt horrible for him. Sitting there that christmas morning, knowing that Chris Chan was his legacy. Poor guy.

[@gentlemanbrain5829]

He also invented kleenex

[@Mrbushbtalls837]

@accelerationquanta5816 Probably one of the most few least disappointing things outside of Chris Chan weird life

[@kumardickshit1530]

​@accelerationquanta5816thats legacy means nothing when you got chris chan as a son

[@justinbailey2347]

[what have I become? my sweetest friend. Everyone I know goes away in the end. And you could have it all: my empire of dirt. I will let you down. I will make you hurt]

[@newtjorden1957]

@accelerationquanta5816 No matter how well his other children did in their life, Bob legacy will always be tied to Chris.

[@zaxaphonen]

"Chris attempts an embrace with his mother but ends up hurting her" Yup, does that in the future too, that's why I'm here now....

[@andraslazar2437]

Please stop

[@zaxaphonen]

@@andraslazar2437 sush

[@Briargh]

@F4TC4T hes in jail lmao

[@glaze_tpf9791]

@F4TC4T hes in jail as we speak Except someone is probs inside him

[@smerzeer7740]

@F4TC4T he got arrested actually

[@CosmicChaiLatte]

The fact he whines about Santa not bringing him a girl for Christmas to "make into his girlfriend" then goes off on Sarah Hammer's boyfriend for her having been "paired up" with him clearly shows how Chris is alien to the concept of women having consent in a relationship.

[@xFlareLeon]

To him a girlfriend is not a person with her own desires, thoughts and feeling. She's an object, an automaton who unconditionally gives love and affection and takes care of him in every way.

[@kona-p5579]

@@xFlareLeon it’s depressing how many men see girlfriends as more of a mother than a person on equal ground

[@sirnetflix7162]

@@kona-p5579 It’s not even most men, it’s people like Chris who can’t grasp basic concepts of relationships.

[@TheNewHumanity]

Spoopy foreshadowing 👻

[@isabellabello]

foreshadowing

[@ScrubTheNub]

Wow that Christmas clip is incredibly hard to watch. You can hear the pain, disappointment, and sadness in Bob’s voice. Truly heartbreaking.

[@Soniti1324]

When you realize his dad was from the greatest generation and gave life to a mentally damaged millennial of history defining proportions... Well, it's why we've dedicated 40 hours to watching it play out. The generation gap is nearly indescribable.

[@vogelchenzwitschert8754]

@@Soniti1324 his dad was an abusive hoarder. Great guy, great generation, Chris was lucky from the start

[@Graceful18]

@@vogelchenzwitschert8754 what the fuck did his dad hoard?

[@JJKBrady]

@@Graceful18 I think the question is what the fuck did his dad not hoard

[@ap6249]

@@JJKBrady the horde all was barbs, Bob had a vast collection of art, stamps, records, old/ vintage movies, ect. And he maintained them for decades to pass onto his wife and son, who squandered it. It seems like Bob was willing to put up with a lot of shit for some personal peace and quiet.

[@sutorippuwebmaster8783]

Describing Chris as "not evil-looking like Creepy Molester Guy" both raises many questions and stuns me to silence.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

@@sandrag3637I think she saw somebody else who looked like a molester to her or actually molested her directly, & was saying Chris didn’t look like him

[@1camry]

back then he wasnt so much, now he is

[@soifinallyhaveanaccountnow]

The whole mall was infested with weirdos apparently.

[@t8ercreator650]

The framing of the Christmas video says everything. Chris sits next to his mother with his dad on the far side from the two of them, unknowingly highlighting how much more Chris cares about his mother.

[@guilhermehank4938]

Geno oddly enough left out the part where he mentions that in the original...I wonder why

[@JaggedBird]

Guilherme Almeida it’s a quicker paced version of this. He sorta lets these details speak for themselves honestly

[@bigblue344]

Looking back at that now it speaks volumes as seeing the other stuff Chris said.

[@Serioslump]

I think it’s pretty clear that’s only bc his mum has much more “patience” for his ways than his father does, if you’d call it that.

[@DogMechanic]

**Oedipus i'msorryicouldn'tstopmyself

[@geraldmeyers4639]

Chris: "I'm making a Christmas video." Bob - "I see...you're wasting the chip." Boy, does that say a lot.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

LOL yep the memory chip is a metaphore of the life energy thats has been waisted and still got waisted on chris

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

lol yeah sometimes i do feel that way

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

@@Shannonbarnesdr1 I'm spreading a message I genuinely believe in, every day. I wish you and your loved ones well, before the end comes.

[@Paul-gt2es]

@@GabyGeorge1996 how do you know that he was a racist?

[@TheMasterTelevision]

@@Paul-gt2es he confessed in a call that he "seen crosses burn" Connect the dots

[@Piemanthe3rd]

Christian getting dating advice from Ubisoft actually makes a lot of sense now.

[@splurgyreal]

LOL

[@garbagecan7718]

oh god no 😭

[@dachel683]

life is a black comedy

[@menjolno]

I get mines from youtube. From creators and copyright team. Lol jk

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

Does anyone know if he ever played “Catherine”?

[@officialFredDurstfanclub]

As much as Bob and Barb willed this onto themselves, that Christmas video is legitimately mortifying to watch. I think that’s the moment they realised that it was all over. the mistakes they had made, the things they should have done. That’s when it all came crashing down and they realised what they had brought into this world. Merry Christmas, Robert

[@sazsha]

I think that they had a soft spot for him when he was a kid. Using the “he is just highly functioning autistic!!” as an excuse to spoil him and give him everything. However they did not realize what monster they were raising back then.

[@KeystoneHeavy58]

What do you mean that is rhe moment? They were living like that every day, this scene just happened to be caught on video.

[@ICantRecognizeCelebrities]

It's as uncomfortable as the dinner scene from Texas Chainsaw Massacre; You'd never want to be anywhere near that family, you can smell the room through the screen, and you pray any pets they own are able to escape

[@phyrr2]

They should've saved a few grand and send him to Nevada for a good 1 hour schloggin' with a lady of his choice. The dude was just pent up sexual tension (and yes this IS what it leads up to if you can't get the release you need). As parents I have to wonder if they didn't consider this.

[@Blurpbees]

@@phyrr2 Shut up Incel, you don't need sex in your life to live a happy life. If you think you're honestly entitled to sex you need to go take a leap.

[@beanman9644]

Him asking for a girlfriend for Christmas as a 22 year old should have been a sign to his parents that he needed therapy or mental care

[@pintatatphpaobe9563]

Nah, you're not giving him enough credit here. He doesn't actually want Santa to bring him a girlfirend, he's just trying to subtly say "man, I wish Sara Hammer will come again this Christmas and fall in love with me". His present for his santa-girlfriend is also his present for Sara, which confirms this, and it's also why he gets so defensive when Bob says he doesn't think she's coming. It's like something out of a cheesy Christmas movie and it's very Chris-esque.

[@thycaltrist]

@@pintatatphpaobe9563 I haven't read that deep into it, but that does seems very possible. And creepy.

[@NOCTURNALARROW]

His parents failed him on a monumental level. And that's a fact.

[@zhanucong4614]

Or lobotomy

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

@@pintatatphpaobe9563 Actually. That makes a lot of sense.

[@bigbadseed7665]

"I hope that Santa will comply with my request." He says it like he's taken Mrs. Claus hostage or something.

[@KonEl-BlackZero]

lmao

[@cpkudrongaming6100]

How do you know he didn't

[@smash3r01]

@@cpkudrongaming6100 If he took Mrs Claus hostage he would have ended his Virginity Quest there and then.

[@manicnovae]

How do you know he didn’t? Wouldn’t be the last time he held a old woman hostage

[@ultra6671]

Alternatively, he could have poisoned Santa's cookies, and will trade the antidote for a girlfriend

[@stproducciones9140]

Imagine being 23 and finding out that you're a character in the insane rambling comics of that weird kid you used to bully as a child.

[@mitchellalexander9162]

And then you wake up as that character in that nightmare comic and then you have a horror story.

[@grantwilliams2571]

Just ruin the puncuation a bit, and that sounds like something Fawful might say.

[@timothytzovolos153]

@@grantwilliams2571 Mustard of your doom

[@maryo852]

Gold

[@jackhamilton9604]

To be honest that’s basically what I’ve done with a primary school bully of mine, however I’m sure to keep it private and only share it with people close to me

[@Tigress583]

"Chris even made a my little pony figure out of this own hair" Yet another sign that this man is actually insane.

[@curedreamfandubz4116]

It’s also just prove how childish he is If a little girl did this you would most likely just laugh it off, but this is a grown man yk 😭

[@dusk4974]

Oh, but this man can certainly comprehend gender and right from wrong! (Note the sarcasm)

[@Tigress583]

@@dusk4974 For real. He is not sane at all.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

sounds pretty normal for the horsefucker fanbase that show has

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

The worrying part is that he seemed to fully believe that he was going to find a girlfriend gifted to him by Santa wrapped in a gigantic present under the tree. Like, was Santa supposed to have kidnapped and brainwashed her into being his girlfriend and stuff? Or created her out of nothing like the biblical Eve? Does he believe Santa to be real and capable of all this? It certainly seemed that way.

[@gabrielmendez4161]

Ett Gammalt Bergtroll he believed optimus prime killed his fake girlfriend

[@pendulousphallus]

I think a lot of CWC's behaviour has been and still is performative. They wanted to show their parents how much a priority it was for them the time, as that was maybe what was expected of them. I don't know what they thought that performance would ultimately lead to. The Love Quest has been seemingly abandoned now that Bob has passed, so I expect a lot of that posturing was for him.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

pendulousphallus But the video he did after opening the presents was a private video he didn’t show the parents. He expresses a genuine surprise and disappointment at not finding a girl-sized present under the tree. He genuinely had his hopes up. It wasn’t a show for his parents I don’t think.

[@pendulousphallus]

@@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll I expect a good portion performance aspect of their quirks is internalized. They are still acting insincerely even when in private. I think the version of CWC we're seeing now with Barb being mostly absent and pretty much a non-entity is CWC at their most sincere. They are not doing anything for anybody. They are just doing what they want. What that becomes is bizarre Dimensional Merge nonsense and Twitter meltdowns. There's not a lot of substance with CWC; they disappear under the weight of their own craziness when not regulated by stronger people and living in relative isolation. That's what I think best explains the distance between somewhat normal CWC in the Bob days to whatever we're seeing now. This version of CWC has no direction and only cares about filming LEGO skits. It's a degraded person compared to the person who could at least attend community college and was working as hard as they could (in their own misguided way) to find a boyfriend free girl.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

pendulousphallus I’m pretty sure the horrible trolling, with all the mindfuckery and sexual abuse, also did quite the number on “relatively normal Chris”. Odin knows it would on me - someone I’d like to consider a rather normal and functional person.

[@porter5224]

That VHS scene is kind of sad.

[@SmarkusAurelius]

I said this the first time this video was posted. I don't think Chris understands the concept of gift giving, he seems unable to picture things from another perspective. He gets them things he likes, thinking they too would like them. Instead of the traditional way of doing it, which is giving them things they want. He treats them as he wishes to be treated because he's unable to conceptualise the idea of people wanting something different than what he wants

[@the-NightStar]

@@SmarkusAurelius Spot on. It's REALLY fucking disturbing. That's why in an earlier part I referred to Chris as at least partly evil. He is the "innocence" of evil. The part that is utterly devoid of understanding. The kind of person who has no malicious intent, but takes apart a mouse he found with a knife as it squeals and cries and screams, simply because he wants to understand what's in it or how it works, but even then, doesn't REALLY care. He sees everything through that lens, like the entire world is "The Christian Weston Chandler Show". I swear, he probably thinks other countries like Africa and Scotland for instance, are only places that exist because they are there to remind him of things supposedly from there. Like other places only pop into existence and back out again, when he's told about them, remembers them, they are referenced or if he is currently at that place. He has a pet dog's understanding of time and spatial awareness. In the mind of a human being, I can comprehend what that must be like about as well as he must be able to comprehend that a woman is another thinking human being with thoughts and opinions.

[@TheAmericanNomad352]

It's like a doc of his daily life back then

[@Ashethetics]

Crooty Is it that, or is it so it’s like - other person: “Oh, thanks but I’m not really into that...” Christian: “oh no, I love this thing” Person: “Why don’t you just have it, then?” Like he buys it to look good and generous but knows he’ll get to keep it in the end. The amount he inserts himself in everything, every conversation, made his comic entirely about him, made his parents anniversary video about himself, etc. It would seem to me that he’s aware that he’ll get the present if the other person doesn’t want it. Not maliciously, but I think he is aware - like he’s done it once by accident (like you say, maybe thinking of what he likes, they’d enjoy too), and this has happened so it’s been like a sort of positive reinforcement for him to keep doing it.

[@funkyweapon1981]

@@the-NightStar Africa is a continent, not a country.

[@scottpeltier3977]

“He then farts.” Me: Riveting....

[@colinr0380]

I was sure this would come up again during the graduation ceremony

[@DjVader112]

him saying that in a creepypasta voice is a treat

[@henrybrittons9028]

What a joyous day to have eyes

[@Toatony]

Timestamp?

[@billnye613]

@@Toatony 34:24

[@doishooligan]

"After calling mom and eating me nuggets" The way Geno delivers this always get me

[@antblake1030]

Argh me boyo. I gotta eat me nuggets to prepare for that Scallywag Plankton!

[@Y-two-K]

In the first episode, you said the Chris may be the most documented person in history. At the time, I laughed. Now I'm starting to believe you. Also, WHY DO THESE MAGAZINES KEEP POSTING HIS LETTERS??

[@antiwaifus1325]

gaming magazines in the 90s were full of shit posting and including dumb viewer submissions. They would wrote entire columns just making fun of stuff. If you got this letter why wouldn't you publish it? Saves you 2 hours work and you can all laugh at it later.

[@unpopularopinions7407]

he probably wrote in to so many that it was just a numbers game

[@ReddKnight10]

So weird that all this stuff happens to him. I swear I never win those contests or get my stuff submitted or anything, but Chris gets it all the time!

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

@@ReddKnight10 He enters ALOT of contests and writtes alot of letters It was pure probabbility, That he'd eventually win a few of them

[@ReddKnight10]

Jesus Ramirez Romo Fair enough! Chris just plays RNG better than I do I suppose lol

[@binglese]

imagine accidentally interacting with Chris and then being known on the internet as like asssamantha or something

[@memehawk12]

Thank god I only get called MemeCuck12 or MemeCock12, the likes

[@vortex_all9055]

that was a awesome comment 9/10 dude serious here

[@vortex_all9055]

@Corazon i will wear that nerd emoji as a crown of honor tear off my pants and jump out the window and start singing rap god in a italian accent what do you think of those apples?!

[@dontlookfo2763]

@@vortex_all9055 pfp checks out

[@bit_ronic]

@@vortex_all9055 italian spotted

[@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble]

“He seems to understand, that he does not understand” that’s sad.

[@jackhamilton9604]

I can imagine Santa dropping off presents at the Chandler household, after putting a bound and gagged girl under the tree he checks his list and sees “put Bob Chandler out of his misery” shrugs, pulls a gun out and sends Bob off

[@greendemon905]

The following morning, Chris excitedly runs down the stairs, and lets out an inhuman shriek of joy as he sees his Christmas present.

[@KevinFinkbeiner]

This sounds like it'd be a perfect Christmas-themed "Texas Chainsaw" spin-off.

[@FuryanJedi13]

@@greendemon905 Being thrilled at having his own captive girlfriend at Christmas, and completely ignoring the fact his father had just been murdered? Sounds like Chris.

[@LudiusQuassas]

@@FuryanJedi13 This reminded me of the Holey Buttocks incident. When Barb was complaining about probably having a colony of mites in her... uh, cheeks, while Chris was complaining online about how busy he was watching over his imaginary friends... oh, and hey ailing mother.

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

Seeing that Christmas video actually brings out a deep-rooted sadness that I cannot explain. Imagine it, being trapped in that house, unable to connect to the outside world or to other people in a significant way. Your only companions are your parents, but they are elderly and apathetic, unable to help you in the way you want and feel you need. Trapped in that house, you start to slip further into your sole escape: a fantasy world where you are loved and your dreams come true. Where you have the friends you can't make in real life. Remember, even as a child Chris' friends had to be bribed. He has always been alone. Stuck in the futile moments of escapism. I am ashamed to admit that I was in a very similar situation to Chris. Not autistic, but trapped in a lonely house with apathetic parents, being kept away from society until I lost any chance of socializing naturally. I created a world of daydreams just like Chris did... Though, okay, to be fair I was a lot younger and my daydreams were definitely not this peculiar. Still, I can see the draw in it, and it's truly tragic. Chris was kind of born shot in the foot. It doesn't excuse his behaviors, but it does make it tragic that his decline was only intensifies by that desire to escape his life. And it was that same desire to escape that cemented him into that house.

[@tumulovermelho93]

Did you get better? Socializing and stuff?

[@mechabroski9993]

It's like being born into fuckin' Scientology.

[@triumphtheinsultdog1550]

I thought these would be funny and I would be "laughing at a loser" but it's actually just depressing and it's disturbing how many similarities I can see from my own life in the past 10 years.

[@Milliethepumpkin]

Long ago I was on the specsl Ed hallway for a couple years, I was removed later due to being to advanced but during my time their it was sad at times. Some of the kids had loving families and warm homes, others didn’t have parents due to them leaving them and stuff. My heart goes out to all of them and j hope their alright

[@Jenna_Talia]

Suppose I'm in a similar situation. Only thing is I have great friends which is an incredible fucking crutch to have. Had it not been for me having friends, I'd be who knows where, possibly dead. Really don't know, but I rely on my family for everything, and my life looks bleak beyond that, and my family doesn't seem interested in helping whatsoever.

[@famicom180]

imagine being 22 and still believing in Santa Clause and that he'd bring you another human being that HAS to be your girlfriend.

[@HeavyMetalBeliever]

It's a pretty sad state of affairs regardless of who the person is.

[@Shydore-Official]

Chris's Santa is just the dark web

[@Julia-yj9qk]

Autism is a hell of a drug

[@HeavyMetalBeliever]

@@Julia-yj9qk Yep. Chris is also a pathological narcissist.

[@thereisa100chanceiwilllose3]

I mean, the guys just really fuckin naive.

[@Hadkek]

After this, I'm convinced that Nintendo Power just posted whatever stupid shit that got sent into them because they were either bored or didn't give a shit.

[@lilbill7385]

They were so baffled by it that they decided to put in there

[@HearHailie]

@@lilbill7385 nintendo said "thought this would make yall laugh"

[@doxiedaddy7784]

Nintendo wants in on the lulz

[@Robman0908]

Nintendo was in on that trolling as well.

[@sstylie]

imagine you’re in a traffic jam in Virginia and you’re stuck behind a car with a license plate that says sonichu

[@Jerk7891]

It would be worse than that one scene in final destination

[@rudybaeza5622]

This has actually happened to me.

[@thursdaygoirl]

on 81 just confused as hell

[@thebigsquish699]

It feels like just yesterday I was crying that these were taken off KZbin, please notice me daddy genosamuel.

[@nameredacted1448]

The Big Squish you have been NOTICED!

[@1WEareBUFO1]

Squish

[@dcreisranch]

Does anyone else find this tragic? His whole fucking life is tragic and judging by where he is now, it's about to get a lot more tragic.

[@vuvv7022]

yep im forcing myself through this documentary and all i feel is despair 😕

[@xmobius0ne]

@Solitude Standing11 I completely agree. This whole thing is extremely sad. His actions were definitely abominable but he never got the proper help and treatment he needed and was being constantly bullied and trolled by the internet. It has really destroyed his life and made him into what he is today.

[@kennethsalamanca5677]

@Solitude Standing11 That’s just saying people with disabilities are evil, no he’s aware of his actions he was just a brat and wasn’t taught how to be disciplined. Autistic people especially high functioning ones are aware of their actions

[@shimmershine6902]

@Solitude Standing11 Like if your point is boohoo he’s disabled and you guys are mean then… you should be mad at Chris as well, because he’s made fun of “slow-in-the-minds” multiple times.

[@ginge641]

@@shimmershine6902 See that's the thing. Chris is clearly a guy with personality defects, but most people are able to accept those and deal with them as they mature. This dude clearly couldn't.

[@Diabeaters]

>be bob >old as hell >made and contributed a lot of inventions to the world of machining >made a decent mark on the world, traveled it and learned a lot >just want have my name live on through a son who will be successful and continue my lineage >get stuck with a 30 year old virgin who thinks he is a CPU goddess and married to mewtwo and a hybrid of sonic and pikachu. >die knowing i at least have my other kids.

[@catboymikey]

LMFAO

[@MoskHotel]

>Get married to a female Snorlax and have a low-functioning autistic Human-Snorlax hybrid who will sell all of your collections and most of your stuff for games and toys after your death.

[@Diabeaters]

@@MoskHotel so fucked up dude, really sad tbh

[@MoskHotel]

@Saint Dust Media Exactly. After Bob’s death, Chris and Barbara inherited $10,000, but then, Barbara gave it all away for an attorney after she and Chris got in a Hit and Run incident with Michael Snyder. Honestly, if Chris had just leave Snyder alone, he could’ve domes something better in the situation he and his mother were in. But then again, he’d probably spend all that money for games, toys and collectibles.

[@iinofunii3059]

Thank god he aint around today...

[@theharlequin7280]

That Christmas video of the chandler household is still one of the most somber, haunting and depressing things I've seen in my life.

[@vanguardRailgun924]

It honestly feels like this part onward is when fate is sealed for the Chandlers. They were given an out and disregarded it. All 3 of them did this to themselves. I don’t feel bad for Bob or Barb, they did nothing to improve the situation or some times they’d make it even worse and when help was given they’d ignore or outright reject it. They are just as if not more responsible for How Chris turned out then Chris himself is. They could have nipped this in the bud while he was a child and it would have averted everything. As someone with autism myself it saddens me how much they failed Chris. Chris is a cautionary tale if anything.

[@BroadwayRonMexico]

Those early issues were prophetic. When he finally did find a boyfriend-free girl, the jerkops put an end to it real fast

[@StephanuSneed]

True love really is illegal in Virginia, after all.

[@narlabegins]

I shouldn't be laughing this bad.

[@darkrider189]

You could even say she was a husband-free girl

[@kennethwoody5897]

@@StephanuSneed Virginia is for virgins!

[@h.p.hatecraft7850]

jesus christ, dude.

[@halfpenguinhalflego]

The Christmas video always makes me so depressed

[@aquatark]

Alex Hunt I usually end up skipping over the Christmas parts because of how depressed they make me.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

Insert Name Here A clever man, but also a hateful and bigoted man who was responsible for much of Chris’ worst aspects (racism, homophobia etc). He deserved everything he got towards the end. He wasn’t a saint. Far from it.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

Insert Name Here In the end, both Barb and Bob were too fucking old, both physically and mentally. They never should’ve had Chris. Should’ve just enjoyed their autumn year’s together. The biggest tragedy is that Bob obviously saw Chris as his redemption; he could finally do right in the face of his failed relationships in the past. But Chris, due to his issues, was never going to be able to be the son Bob wanted - and Bob due to his old age was never going to be the father that Chris needed. Raising special needs children is a daunting task even for parents in the prime of their lives.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

Insert Name Here I’ve always had a sneaking suspicion that Chris might’ve been a happy little accident, which because of their (or at least Bob’s) religious views, they decided to keep. I can’t fathom them actually trying for a kid at that age. But given Bob’s urge for redemption, who knows in the end?

[@TheAmericanNomad352]

@Insert Name Here we all miss bob dont know how he put up with his shit

[@daninotmyself]

I lose it every time you read his typos in a serious tone "and whwtt the outside world was like" lmao

[@stars7710]

21:18 "NOOOOOOO ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

[@drkissinger1]

My favorite part is when Barb seems to question the generosity of giving your father a VHS rip of a DVD you bought, and Chris goes, “HE HAD A CHOICE!”

[@trampstamp4548]

Cant wait until this gets a Criterion blu ray release

[@guilhermehank4938]

*mass flagged because of "bullying"* REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@darthbriboy]

Yes!!!

[@Agent_MthruZ]

Those hack frauds better make this a Criterion.

[@Nick-qf7vt]

With ALL the bonus features

[@Xploshi]

“If you want a collectible copy you will have to find him and ask for one” implies so much in so little words I’m baffled that he really thought he was so famous at this point that actual people were going to approach him at the convention, purely because sonichu was “public” on the internet

[@iammegamanx]

Oh boy, I cant wait to watch the chris chan documentary with a bowl of arlos cereal

[@grantwilliams2571]

@Xploshi You should make a fucked-up version of Chris Chan if you haven't already.

[@DanielLarsonTheBlackDragon]

@@grantwilliams2571 nah fam subvert it and make him a normal human being

[@grantwilliams2571]

@@DanielLarsonTheBlackDragon EVEN BETTER

[@tigey2003]

H

[@Itried20takennames]

I used to work in inpatient psychiatry, and it was not uncommon for young men with conditions that made independent adult life difficult to hope a wife/gf would magically appear and be their caretaker. It was actually quite heartbreaking to see some struggle to figure out “how do I get one.” I never saw it as treating women as property, but more like a lonely child wishing for a friend as he blew out his birthday candles. As for Santa bringing one, that is something his parents should have gently addressed. Maybe they tried, but they clearly had their own struggles.

[@UnluckyOctopus]

This actually makes things make so much for sense. For Chris his parents just always had each other they were just there. He never had the back to the future thought of his parents being individuals and had to meet and work to become a couple. They just were and always were for him. So why wouldn’t a wife just appear for him in adulthood. As far as wanting a woman to take the care taker role go to R/relationship advice to find this is a problem even with neuro typical people. Sometimes it’s even the mother who oversteps and tries to “compete” with the wife. Chris just lacks the ability to critically think so there’s little hope to break negative behavior and habits.

[@UnluckyOctopus]

Also in the 90s when a girl wasn’t interested it was common to say “sorry I have a boyfriend”.

[@UnluckyOctopus]

@@PodreyJenkin138 you’re not wrong my point was Chris isn’t functioning. This isn’t a person who is even fully toilet trained. He knows money buys things but doesn’t haven’t a concept of how it’s obtained or saved or what it’s actual value is. He knows there’s laws but in his pretend play it’s clear he doesn’t understand what they actually are. He knows where he lives but doesn’t understand states or countries. Even a child of 10 would recognize and be frustrated their art wasn’t as good as a teen or adult. They would ask for better art supply’s like alcohol markers, clay, or even a drawing tablet, instead of being proud of crayola model magic. Someone who doesn’t have understanding of these basics isn’t going to be handle the complexities of a relationship. He doesn’t even understand his own needs and wants. His parents dropped the ball convincing him he was totally fine just a bit shy and Autistic. In reality he seems to only function at about a 8yr olds level. Watch an 8yr old pretend play with dolls what marriage looks like and it would be shockingly close to how Chris views it. This is why 13 yr olds were so easily able to troll and abuse him. His parents also seem to have stopped parenting him at 18 thinking he would “figure it out”. He in reality needed to be a group home with access to a lot of therapy and help.

[@madao2794]

You never see woman as property but really they want a mindless "do what i want" gf, if that's not objectifying idk man. You're weird

[@pipersolanas3322]

@@madao2794 yeah exactly. It is objectifying

[@rivers0ng]

I would KILL to know what all of these side characters like anna, sarah, wes etc all think about the recent events

[@Businessproduktionen]

"He was an okay-looking guy, not evil-looking like Creepy Molester Dude" hoo boy did that age badly

[@bobsnow6242]

Kind of makes it more depressing since she wasn't necessarily wrong. We all know the monstrosity he devolved into but mid-2000s Chris really wasn't a particularly ugly or repulsive looking person by conventional standards. He still had all his hair, his complexion wasn't super fucked up yet, and he wasn't even that fat. Here's a pretty girl his age objectively describing him as moderately handsome; all he needed to do was put minimal effort into some exercise and personal hygiene, dress like a normal person, and not act like a total lunatic and he'd probably have a shot at a date with a girl like Anna. Alas, the boy just ain't right.

[@sunshineskystar]

@@bobsnow6242 she didnt think he is handsome at all lol, she just thinks he is average looking.

[@vengaboi4229]

The way he puts his arm around his mother when Bob reads the words "love quest" is just so crazy in light of recent events

[@snowghoul3813]

i just noticed that, holy fuck.

[@cherrymi02]

OMG foreshadow maybe?

[@Onewingerdraven]

Ew ew ew ew

[@maxrice9902]

the way his mom denied two hugs from chris and then he apologized for it really made me feel bad can’t imagine how that felt

[@woolymammoth7125]

He’s used to it they’re royalty after all. Gotta respect the rules

[@JahsayFace]

don’t worry she made up for it

[@davelabonte7806]

@@JahsayFace I'm going to hell for laughing at this jfc

[@oomff4366]

@@JahsayFace noooo dude 😭😭😭

[@patrickranes9998]

@@JahsayFace Bruh you're going STRAIGHT to hell

[@greendemon905]

What really disturbs me is how he KEEPS insisting his girlfriend-to-be is younger than or exactly his age. He refuses to get a girl even a year older than him.

[@JoJioArkhamCityEdition]

Pretty sure Chris nowdays doesn't care if the girl is older

[@greendemon905]

@@JoJioArkhamCityEdition if only 2000's Chris could see himself now. It might create a new timeline where he finally gets his life in order.

[@DropDeadDebater]

@@greendemon905 I don't think so. During his call with Matthew and afterwards, he admitted to Kacey that he made good points but just didn't care to change himself

[@heinoustentacles5719]

effects of autism

[@Onewingerdraven]

Til he gets the oldest of all

[@spaceinvader9815]

See, I’m also autistic. And this makes me feel a lot better about my progress and functionality as a human being.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

heh true, that and honestly i dont think chrs is actually autistic, his issuesare more on par with untreated mental health illnesses, , and environmental factors, isolation, and Again a combination of mental illnesses that was just ignored, fed into, and enabled , chris is more on par with delusional thinking, mindset most in a very blurred skewed sense of relaity, and fantasy narcissistic personality disorder, and dunning kruger effect syndrome, his parents , since childood just fed this all, as well as ignored a lot of it it too, but many mental health issue and even disabilities can mimic autism, or have autistic traits / tendencies. it is very possible he has feal alcohol syndrome, his face and bodyshape, how he moves, ect. really does show traits, his behavior does also, and it was strongly rumored both parents drank pretty heavily pre birth of chris.

[@crustacrank]

@@Shannonbarnesdr1 I believe that he is on the autistic spectrum, but due to lack of proper help, his other symptoms of mental illness have been either overlooked or attributed to autism. Autistic people experience the world differently, depending on where they are on the spectrum, so I don't doubt that he has other mental illnesses.

[@crustacrank]

with all due respect, as an autistic person, I try not to compare myself to other autistic people. It's different for everyone.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

@@crustacrank yeah that good point its quite possible, if i he s truly on the autistic spectrum, and had he not been brought up like he was, and if he didnt have all the other mental issues on top of that, hed prolly been a fullly functional personand would likely go through his whole life un DX'd, and wouldhave just functioned and had a career andso on.

[@anonb4632]

If this guy is autistic, the condition is co-morbid with some other things, and I don't just mean learning difficulties.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

These early parts with his childhood and young adulthood were always my favorites. They give you such understanding into the unfortunate circumstances that turned him into the sad lulzcow we all love to hate.

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

his childhood and young adulthood make me pity Chris. When the trolls find him and he starts feeding them, ignoring all of the legitimate and solid advice from people who (for some unknown reason) care for him, that's when I stop feeling pity and empathy for Chris and I'm watching a lulcow in the making.

[@defiantj975]

This age is my favorite as well. It's more innocent and cringey on Chris's character alone. Before any trolls really got involved.

[@alexradice8163]

People who love to hate are likely as disabled as chris-chan

[@entropy7705]

You ever notice you feel bad for Chris as a person until you reach part 3, where his selfishness and delusions make him a strongly unlike-able even if he is hindered by his disability? edit: Well, never fucking mind. Apparently I can only really feel bad when he was a child. When he had innocence.

[@gorby1984]

And there’s over 50 parts of this series, my God

[@denizariani]

@@gorby1984 with what just happened you know, I’m trying to speed through the parts and my mind is trying to process all this information

[@mel-ns3hd]

@@denizariani lol same

[@IkeOkerekeNews]

No. I still feel bad for him.

[@gorby1984]

@@IkeOkerekeNews Even after he’s been arrested?

[@schmoopydooper9174]

I think we were all so busy gawking at the cringe artwork and stuff that we really didnt recognize the beginnings of psychosis here. I have schizophrenia and it really reminded me of when i first started getting symptoms when geno mentioned that chris has the conspiracy delusion that a group of people are organized to work against him. Plus the vivid fantasy world is very remniscent of schizoaffective, at least in my experience. im no psychologist just a mentally ill internet passerby. Its really interesting but also so tragic looking back and wondering why someone didnt step in and get chris serious help. I wonder what his life would be like if he was put on antipsychotics early on.

[@r7calvin]

It seems like his parents were more concerned with the stigma (and how it'd affect Chris's self-esteem) if he were to get serious help. On the one hand, he did complete school in regular classes & enjoy himself. On the other hand, it doesn't seem like he learned how to actually navigate social situations.

[@anxietyfox4322]

Chris has been evaluated several times though. He's been to psychiatrists, psychologists, anger management classes, and even been ordered into treatment by the courts instead of being jailed. In none of these instances has he been diagnosed with schizophrenia, or any other overt mental illness. He hasn't been prescribed any medication besides anti-depressants, at least he wasn't until the incest saga and incarceration. I've heard from a schizophrenic I know that the delusions that you get with that particular illness are always negative, but Chris has far more positive delusions about himself and the world than he has negative ones. I think he just takes any sort of criticism or inconvenience as an attack on himself, which is more indicative of being either a narcissist or just having a gigantic ego, both of which seem pretty on spot. He has a victim complex, like when he's told to leave by a store and refuses. He's told to leave by the police and he refuses. He simply refuses to see himself as doing anything wrong, because in his mind everything he does is good. Arm-chair psychologists have also pointed to his delusions being more like maladaptive daydreaming; he simply cannot understand why he can't have his way in the world and keeps running into obstacles, so he escapes reality into daydreams instead of facing the reality that he is doing things that are considered unacceptable and even criminal by society. He can't accept that he could ever do anything wrong, so it's baffling to him. It's like living in a world where nothing makes sense to you, but the root cause isn't that Chris is completely disengaged with reality, that's just the symptom. He just will not listen to anything that contradicts his feelings, so essentially he has painted himself into a corner. In order for the world to make sense, Chris needs to accept responsibility and face the fact that his experience of the world is not the only correct experience. Since he refuses to do that, he's stuck and the only escape for him is to make up stories in his head; everyone who disagrees with him -must- be evil. It's the only way anything makes sense to him. I conclude that Chris is not mentally ill or "insane" in the sense that he lacks the ability to understand reality. He simply chooses not to, because it saves him from feeling uncomfortable. Chris' problem isn't mental illness or even autism; it's that he refuses to grow up and accept responsibility.

[@r7calvin]

@@anxietyfox4322 I'm no expert on schizophrenia, but yeah the guy I knew who struggled with it mostly had stereotypical paranoid / negative delusions during his episodes (BUT I have heard someone online say that their schizophrenia also caused mania-like episodes, and I believe it's not uncommon for some longtime sufferers to believe they're Jesus or something). And given her family was already pretty religious to begin with-blurring the lines between fantasy & reality-adapting that fantastical self-delusional belief system into a psychological defense mechanism as a response to long-term trauma doesn't seem very far-fetched-especially since Bob seemed to humor her when she thought an animatronic bear mishearing her name was a sign from God... (Plus all the trolls & similarly delusional followers validating her delusions and continually egging her on...)

[@primus0348]

Chris chan: Sit’s with a sign for a boyfriend-free girl Mangers: I’m about to end this mans Love quest

[@masterspark9880]

Why did they stop him? It’s not like he was hurting anyone

[@billygoatcentral2651]

*Mangers*

[@derekwalter4238]

@@masterspark9880 the impression i get is that having his "attraction sign" is akin to soliciting a prostitute, and it sounds like he was an asshole to whoever tried to talk to him about it. Talking back, flipping people off, almost running someone over with his car.. no business would want someone like that around.

[@johnromero6315]

@Serve the Flesh Podcast nah, theres dumber crimes. Nobody wants some rando hanging around their business for no apparent reason, especially if they're being weird or creepy. It hurts business. And it doesn't get much more weird or creepy that Chris looking for love.

[@1WEareBUFO1]

@@masterspark9880 WHITE

[@Robert.R.83]

The fact that Rosechu is part Rose and part Raichu indicates his desire for a more experienced and more mature (evolved) female counterpart that can take care of him

[@narlabegins]

Good thing he found her then.

[@FalconFighterPilot1013]

Amy Rose = Woman, Raichu = a more mature version than it’s counterpart. Put them together and Chris wants an older woman to love. That woman was his own mother…

[@zam50]

Good thinking

[@Wufyren]

Deep

[@FuryanJedi13]

@@FalconFighterPilot1013 Gross incest aside, it's kind of ironic that one of the stringent 'requirements' in his love quest was that the woman needed to be younger than him.

[@robbieboydudeguy]

Took a break to look at Wes Isley and his life...dude’s doing great, and seems like an amazing guy who loves his family and his profession. He’s a great magician and legitimately enjoys bringing joy and curiosity to people. Amazing to think so many people know him because of Chris, and in such a weird light

[@manicnovae]

The moment he described that guy I was like, “well shit I’d probably date him too. A magician? Fuck yeah that’s dope” I wonder if the guy ever learned that a random dude, that kinda knew his wife 15 years ago and that he probably never met, was obsessively making comics about him, and then went on to Oedipy all over national news

[@Trux2010]

Oh crap, was Magic Man Wed Isley?? It would match up

[@Zoe-tg4dl]

Trinket he HASSS to know by know surely, with the amount of trolls harassing chris there had to be some that found all the side characters and made them aware somehow

[@Motnur]

Wow, he fooled Penn and Teller? Dude's genuinely living his best life! Good for him!

[@gwh3013]

It's even weirder that Wes's brother Mos went on to be a hive of scum and villainy..

[@joshcrawford4588]

Those people getting issue 0 handed to them by chris had NO IDEA they were being handed history.

[@conyerserin]

I wonder how bad that house smelled from all of the hoardings. Most hoarding situations often smelled really bad because of sour food or just rotten things. Also, Bob looks exhausted from the situation he's in.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

bob and barb are a large art of why chris is how he is, but that being said yes theyare both exhausted, but again,they could have kickedhim out, they chose to wallow in misery

[@Ashethetics]

Most people describe after meeting Chris that he had a “sour” smell, or like “rotting watermelon”. The sour smell could be from the dirt in the house, with the watermelon maybe his body spray trying to cover it up. He claimed to shower at this point, so if that was true, then it must be. In the house tour you can see his bathroom is filthy too, though.

[@GoblinDave152]

@@Ashethetics as much as he claimed to shower, he most likely "showered" half the time by heavily spraying himself in axe body spray

[@benrig89]

@@Ashethetics Diabetes + poor hygiene could result in that. Diabetics have a sickly sweet smell about them and add that BO and human grease....bingo, rotting fruit.

[@Jane-ow7sr]

I had a deadbeat dad and from what I heard about his parents from my mom is that their house was so filthy it had to be torn down.

[@TheKing-uu7jn]

If I'm being honest. His father sounds like a genuinely interesting person

[@yassineszn17]

Electrical enginer/veteran from the korean war/ mass collection of profound and rare movies/stamps from the 60's/art/music He is really interesting

[@Trux2010]

Yup. As much hate as Bob gets, he really was an interesting guy

[@devyn7430]

@@Trux2010 why does he get hate?

[@Trux2010]

@@devyn7430 people think Bob was responsible for how Chris turned out. Plus his relationship with his other kids is really bad. Bob was possibly abusive to Cole

[@skeletonstevee1210]

@@yassineszn17 clint eastwood character

[@DCG909]

It's kinda insane how well documented and retrieved everything about chris is...