ULTIMATE Wavedash and Korean Backdash Hitbox Guide - Tekken 8

I labbed this so you don't have to! This is what I believe to be the best ways to get fast, precise korean backdash and wavedash every time inTekken8 on Hitbox and leverless controllers
Chapters:
1P KBD 00:10
2P KBD 02:32
KBD Speed Test 03:30
1P Wavedash 04:17
2P Wavedash 05:07

[@mosley3485]

You don't wavedash for speed, you wavedash to realign with your opponent if they try to step you. Having a fast wavedash is absolutely advantageous.

[@c16621]

That, and if they are respecting you, you can50/50 them

[@mosley3485]

@@c16621 Yes, but a fast wavedash makes it much harder to step your mix.

[@prancerjohnponce6889]

you need speed wavedash sometimes for pressure. so they dont know when to react. sometimes you have to do different timings.

[@BlazingAmber]

This is such a good guide; I literally just got my first hitbox controller this week and have been looking everywhere for KBD and WS guides but they were so hard to execute Finding your guide made it so much easier, thanks for this and subbed !

[@leeboleebo]

This video was amazing. I watched a couple of other SOCD KBD tutorials but couldn't quite get it. The hand cam + suggestion about getting the right hand involved made things much clearer for me, and I was able to pick up the technique relatively quickly. Thanks so much

[@Chris_F]

Glad you liked it! Always happy to help

[@ghost_joker4534]

Thank you so much Chris!! I have been waiting for this

[@Chris_F]

Glad you liked it! Let me know how the training goes

[@ghost_joker4534]

Will do!!

[@leonitvs]

Finally trying out a leverless after playing Tekken on stick for 3 years. This is the perfect guide, thank you dude

[@Chris_F]

Glad I could help!

[@MrEljue]

Man, finally a video that is straight to the point and very clear. First time I got to do wavedash, at least slow for now.

[@Chris_F]

Happy my video was the one that helped you do it!

[@mataburt]

Not only is this just a great guide in of itself, but by learning to wave dash with my right index finger on the forward button, I realized i can more consistently EWGF by simultaneously pressing 2 with my ring finger. No longer trying to awkwardly coordinate the timing between my two hands!

[@Chris_F]

So glad I was able to help you! Thx for the kind words!

[@shiron90]

Thank you so much as always! Best channel ever ❤

[@Chris_F]

Wow, thank you!

[@JustAreru]

I just bought a Fightbox F3, very excited to learn this!

[@Chris_F]

Have fun! Let me one how it goes

[@Shotsoma]

As someone who’s using hitbox for Tekken 8 this is golden. I got the CEO Mpress.

[@GhostWolf1988]

I did some about that wavedash input on the P2 side. I use that to do kind of electric hold forward > tap back (SQCD) > QCB when you hit down and press 2 at the same time while you still holding forward, you might get electric version of wind god fist short cut on the P2 side.

[@191Oscar]

Awesome shit dude, just picked up an oki board and had no idea where to start with kbd. Added to my tekken training vids and subbed!

[@Chris_F]

Let me know how the training goes! I’d like to know

[@KrayKenshin]

Clutch video i didn't think it was possible to have a way for 2p.... amazing

[@Chris_F]

Glad I could help!!

[@lllstripeslll]

Cool video! Great idea to practice Bryan string to check if you are doing KBD quick enough, def gonna try it out

[@Chris_F]

Go for it!

[@KarinaBunnyK]

Awesome video thanks!

[@Chris_F]

Glad you liked it!

[@yasser2879]

this really hellpful thx man

[@Chris_F]

Glad it helped!

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

I use wasd layout and set the bottom up button to down (i have two down buttons) then use my right hand thumb for the down input in kbd, allows me to keep my fingers over the limb buttons properly

[@Chris_F]

I’m going to try this too

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

@@Chris_F takes a minute to get rhythm but works great imo, also ive got a haute 42 s16 coming and the controller has an extra button above the square/x button which im going to map to down, ill try using my index finger for the down input and see how effective that is

[@GramdalfFGC]

For p2 KBD, you can use the second position wavedash tech you outline in your p1 wavedash section. HOWEVER this is a bit of a dirty backdash, results are the same but the inputs are not strict and this will not work for backsway characters like Paul and Bryan, you'll just get backsway. I'm a dirty Feng main though so it works for me

[@Chris_F]

That’s the great thing about leverless, there are a ton of options. This is what I found works best for me, but we’re all different

[@ThatGuyOnTheDoorstep]

You can also hold back and tap d, f, d, f without inputting the back dash first

[@hysteria2256]

Yes but first backdash just give u space right in this moment and in method u talk about it work with some delay thats why first bb just give u more control in this specific moment

[@Chris_F]

@hysteria2256 absolutely, the first backdash is very important

[@valentynminytskyi6228]

Thanks again Chris F for this awesome guide! I wonder if you plan to do Haute42 M review?

[@Chris_F]

That's the plan! Just need more time

[@Fiptin321]

thank you for this

[@Chris_F]

And thank you for watching!

[@heart1of1miles]

After watching this, as an amateur percussionist that can do some thingher drumming, this just seems really easy. Need to grab a levellers.

[@Inso_yuugen]

I think the way I KBD is easier. For anyone interested try this on P1 (SOCD method and should work on sway characters): Hold left/back. Double tap right/forward. Tap down. Reapeat by double tapping right/forward again and then tap down. You do not let go of left/back during any of this.

[@Inso_yuugen]

Additional note: You can skip double tap forward with negative edge. Example: Hold back -> tap forward and release. Imagine the release is the input. This will give you an instant backash and from there you just tap down then forward ONCE and down again to repeat. Again you never let go of back

[@maydaya3k]

I recently switched to leverless and I REALLY needed this video as a Reina player !! Thank you so much !!!🙇

[@Chris_F]

You're so welcome!

[@gestanosamuel466]

Nice vid chris as always, but try this method, slide down and right with index finger while holding left with ring finger to KBD in 1P side, its easier than alternating with both hand In the 2 side its kinda awkward but i slide down and right with my middle finger while holding right with index finger I just try to not using two hand because you know we should always be ready to break throw so right hand should always in the 1 and 2 button 😅

[@Chris_F]

That’s the thing with leverless - there are so many ways to do the same thing and we all have our preferences. Thanks for adding a different method!

[@gestanosamuel466]

I feel The downside of sliding method is my reaction to hit down to block low attack is slower

[@keytwitchyPhD]

Those P2 inputs were interesting. I've been using the P1 inputs for a while and love it, couldn't figure out a good method for P2 side other than qcb,b for non-backroll characters. Also, you can bind RB and RT to Right and Left from the left analogue stick to easily wavedash and KBD...and it's tournament legal!

[@Chris_F]

I have a newer video I made after this about the RB/RT mapping, check it out!

[@keytwitchyPhD]

@@Chris_F I just realized you're the one I learned that from lol

[@Chris_F]

@keytwitchyPhD LOL!

[@keytwitchyPhD]

@@Chris_F Which buttons do you use for the additional left/right inputs? I vaguely remember you saying you use the extra buttons on your leverless. Was just curious which ones.

[@lukesmith9561]

Hey Chris as a new player trying to learn both the game and leverless your content has been amazing! One question... do you keep your right index finger over forward after KBD or do you return your hand over the punch buttons afterwards for strings? Trying to figure out my hand positioning

[@Chris_F]

Thank you! I found some new tech in the lab last night that completely changes everything. I’m going to try to get a video about it ASAP so please be patient. Trust me, it’ll be worth the wait bc it’s so good for Tekken on leverless!

[@Flashlegz]

Noticed on your m16 you don't have the readout for all 16 buttons, you can get it from the custom firmware update and enable it through the 192 address

[@Chris_F]

I’ll get right on that! Thx!

[@firespeed1739]

nice video!

[@Chris_F]

Thanks!

[@El-Burrito]

I practiced the 2P KBD method and I managed to do it really fast, but it wore out my arm really quick. I think I'm just gonna practice doing it manually without SOCD lol

[@javongoshay]

It makes way more sense to me to just do it all with your left hand. Its gonna take practice but I'd prefer to be able to play without shortcuts for every movement in a game where you have to move and attack so fluidly. Still excellent video!

[@Chris_F]

Use whatever you find best; these are just suggestions using what I found works best for my hands. Thanks and good luck!

[@ItzClobert]

Excellent for people that want to learn Tekken on leverless! Can we expect a vid for electrics in the future?

[@Chris_F]

Electrics are next! The end was a preview

[@gestanosamuel466]

Electric in 1P using hitbox is easy because we can hit button 2 and forward with one hand But i wonder how in 2P side Please make a vid of it chris

[@dookieshoes3585]

@@gestanosamuel466the concept is easy. But for me sanwa buttons are so sensitive I’m having trouble lining up the f+2 input. But that just might be me needing better muscle memory

[@gestanosamuel466]

@@dookieshoes3585 with hitbox you can easily input forward with your index finger and button 2 with ring finger (both with right arm) So forward and down with left arm and f+2 with right arm But in 2P you cant do it 😅

[@imhoXD]

What hitbox is this? Would you recommend it for new players? Just need brook wingman fgc adapter for ps5 right? wanna play tekken and street fighter 😊

[@JoaoCosta-lt1mc]

On hitbox, if you "uninvert" the up and down buttons, meaning if you map D-Pad down to the button that you can hit with either thumb, the SOCD backdash becomes extremely simple on both sides, because you can do the backdash cancel by tapping the D-Pad down button with your right thumb. (It might make your 2P wavedash method easier too.) Same idea on keyboard, map D-Pad down to the space bar, so you can hit it with either thumb.

[@Chris_F]

I’m going to try this out!!

[@BlakeToups-tc4np]

I don’t really use hit box, but wouldn’t you have to remap UP?

[@JoaoCosta-lt1mc]

@@BlakeToups-tc4np If you remap down to what used to be the up button, the logical follow-up would be to remap up to what used to be the down button. As I said, "uninvert" the up and down buttons.

[@BlakeToups-tc4np]

@@JoaoCosta-lt1mc I’m sorry bro, I didn’t know what univert meant 😞

[@JoaoCosta-lt1mc]

@@BlakeToups-tc4np It's ok, bro. 👍

[@phettoulathchanthavongsack2182]

You have my subscribe

[@Chris_F]

Thank you!!!

[@MattDorsett300]

Overall which peripheral would you say is easier for these inputs: lever or leverless? Cheers for the great video!

[@Chris_F]

I played Korean stick for 5 years but one week of leverless and I’m hitting things I’ve never done before (TJU for example). Answer: leverless

[@Firelord_Ozen]

I've been literally looking for this guide for Leverless. Thank you so much. I thought wave dashing FAST was impossible on Leverless. Nice HAUTE 42 as well!

[@Chris_F]

Then this video was for you! Glad I was able to help at least one person looking for this. And thx, loving my T16

[@w_smith_1990]

Nice interesting video

[@Chris_F]

Glad you think so!

[@roxasxiii2637]

Hey, I just stumbled upon your videos, really helpful stuff. I started playing on a HORI arcade stick, but I wasn't so good with it, and I found it annoying that the arcade stick was so big and heavy to take with me when playing at friends' places. Then I switched to the PS5 pad, and I was much better with it. Now I'm considering whether to buy a hitbox, as I believe it's smaller than my HORI arcade stick, and I've heard you can play very well with it. Could you perhaps tell me the advantages and disadvantages of the hitbox and PS5 controller, and what you would personally recommend? Best regards.

[@Chris_F]

Sorry I don’t play on pad so I’m not the best person to ask about comparing pad to leverless. Love my leverless controller tho!!

[@rahzaelfoe3288]

This is very controller specific (although technically possible on any button box with a free right hand button running the GP2040-CE firmware), but if you assign pin 18 on your huate42 m16 or t16 to DDI left instead of L3, you can then use basically the same technique for p2 side as p1 side since you can now access the left direction with your right middle finger, no? An alternative would likely be PIN 19 (default RS) if you find that easier to reach. I had to update to firmware version v0.7.7 in order to do this as it wasn't clear how to configure this in the v0.7.5 UI. TLDR, if you can assign a free button reachable by your right index or middle finger to 'left', then you could probably make p2 side execution nearly as easy as p1.

[@Chris_F]

I thought about this but I wasn’t sure if it was tournament legal or not so I didn’t try. Do you know if this goes against any rules for offline events like evo?

[@rahzaelfoe3288]

@@Chris_F I don't. I think in theory if the crossup is legal for that event (which is often not clear in and of itself), DDI should also be legal. The DDI button would be mapped to the analog stick, just like the crossup, so would technically be a different bind and nothing you couldn't theoretically do on a regular pad controller.

[@rahzaelfoe3288]

@@Chris_F Also, if you're worried about the legality of this, you likely also want to rebind one of your ups to DDI up or something else entirely as by default it comes with 2 up buttons.

[@gestanosamuel466]

i tried it, it works, but i think i prefer use one hand for movement because my right hand should always be ready to break the throw

[@gestanosamuel466]

maybe if you pin it into your right thumb thats perfect, that way your right index and middle finger still on 1 and 2 button for break throw

[@bigoleon]

Are you using the Haute42 M16? I just bought one and was wondering if i should use hitbox layout or WASD for tekken? I was thinking WASD would be better for tekken but now im curious about the hitbox setup.

[@Chris_F]

Yes I’m using the M16 and I love it! Personally I use the hitbox setup but I suggest trying them both and seeing what’s most comfortable for you

[@davellii6309]

I just got my T16 and as a PC gamer i also wanted to use the WASD method, but i found out the Hitbox method feels unnatural at first, but always having a finger on every directional button is really beneficial

[@Shotsoma]

What type of hitbox is that in the vid?

[@Chris_F]

Haute 42 T16 - I highly recommend it!!!

[@joe7park]

Thanks for the helpful video! Can you also give us a guide on EWGF for leverless? I know the "cheater" method on P1 but find EWGF especially harder on the P2 side.

[@Chris_F]

If you watched to the end I teased the EWGF haha. It’s coming next!

[@joe7park]

@@Chris_F you are the goat. thanks Chris!

[@danivalvalsson8174]

nice I was wondering about a shortcut for the 2p side, now do you have a technique for PEWGF? My fastest are always 1-3 frames off and let's not even talk about the 2p side

[@Chris_F]

I’m working on an EWGF/PEWGF guide but I just started learning Tekken on leverless so please be patient

[@davellii6309]

Awesome video! Learned how to KBD somewhat reliably on leverless within an hour. However i ALMOST dodge the last hit of the last string, but i can never fully dodge it even with 4 KBD's like in the demonstration, i guess the timing is very important, not too fast, not too slow?

[@Chris_F]

I wouldn’t worry about the last hit of Bryan’s string too much, it’s just an execution check. If you want to get it you’ll need perfect timing on every single backdash. Not too slow, not too fast. Try he timing varies by character

[@Tko_Seven]

I am a long time tekken stick user. Recently got interested in hitbox. Got a question, the up button seems to be positioned at bottom like a space bar on keyboard. Is that how most hitbox users use as? I didnt try it yet but having up button at bottom would feel so different since I been on stick for decades.

[@Chris_F]

It depends on the controller. For the actual hitbox brand, yes, up in on the bottom. For controllers like haute42 (which I’m using in this video) the up button is on the bottom AND the top - you can use it WASD style. I switched from 10+ years of stick without too much issue. It does take some practice to get used to but I found learning leverless fun!

[@daviboy232]

Great video well explained 🫡

[@Chris_F]

Thank you!

[@jchoi9340]

If you use both hands to do the wavedash, then how do you get the EWGF to execute? Seems confusing, especially since the right hand is shifted over. I can usually execute one EWGF by itself, but doing it out of a wavedash and then doing multiple consecutively seems impossible for me.

[@Chris_F]

It takes practice and it definitely feels awkward at first but it works for me

[@bratosin1]

Quick tip : if you use Law , the Korean dash for the opponent doesn't matter , with Law you can run and do flying kicks , you cannot escape with Korean dash , lucky me I love Law

[@Chris_F]

The flying kick will lose pretty quickly to good players though

[@Phatsnake]

Haute42 gang let’s go!

[@csolisr]

Any tips for people like me that quickly reach their limit of muscle memory with any techniques that need to be performed in less than 8 frames or so? I still can't wavedash in the original Melee because the inputs (and most importantly, the button releases) are too fast for me to perform with any degree of consistency.

[@Chris_F]

I would say to treat it like learning an instrument. If you can’t do it slow then you can’t do it fast. Take a few minutes each day to go slow and grind the muscle memory. Then *slowly* increase the speed over the course of a few days. If you still can’t get it then there might be a different issue. Try it out and let me know if it helps, and if not, I’ll try to think of something else for you!

[@noamgat]

This is a great explanation, thanks! I rebinded my RB key (to the right of 2) to down, giving me KBD on both sides with one finger from each hand. Read Evo/TWT rules and it's legal in both. Is anyone else doing this?

[@Chris_F]

I just rebinded my controller as well and it’s AMAZING how easy all of this is now. Like you said, tournament legal too.

[@holygrail9760]

does this work with hitbox socd neutral? because if i press b and then f it goes neutral, i cant achieve a backdash that way

[@Chris_F]

Yes it does. Hold back, then quickly press and release forward while holding back. This will give you a backdash

[@Nyanm0t0]

Do you keep your right-hand index finger on the right key for the rest of the fight? You'd have to le-rearn the 1,2,3,4 buttons again with the right-hand middle and ring fingers in mind.

[@Chris_F]

No, just when you’re going for that technique then I shift back

[@similaritiesendhere]

Where beginners get hung up is not pressing the down input long enough to register a crouch. They get a really small step cancel instead.

[@mosley3485]

You should be aiming for a single frame of down/back because you can be hit by mids during those frames and you don't want that. That definitely isn't where beginners are getting hung up.

[@similaritiesendhere]

@@mosley3485 Tapping down for one frame in Tekken 8 isn't a crouch input (crouch cancelling). It's a sidestep input and it's been that way since T3. I just sent a video to my little bro of me holding back, pianoing d,f and getting micro-sidesteps towards the screen because I wasn't hitting the down button long enough to register a crouch and therefore not crouch cancelling. You can also accidentally hit forward before you fully release the down button if you aren't deliberate in your inputs. Visually confirming your crouches might not be optimal but, it's the starting point on which speed is built. It's similar to how you should learn regular wind god fist loooong before you start practicing electrics.

[@Chris_F]

@similaritiesendhere this is not correct. Holding back then going to down-back without returning to neutral first will give the crouch cancel needed for this input. If you’re retuning to neutral before pushing down then you’re not doing it correctly.

[@similaritiesendhere]

@@Chris_F I'm holding back on a snackbox and pianoing d,f inputs... Where the hell are these imaginary neutral inputs coming from? The previous commenter said that you should tap the down button for only one frame. What he meant to say is that you should release the down button on the first frame of the crouch animation (which has start up).

[@Chris_F]

@similaritiesendhere now I’m curious I’ll test more when I get home from work

[@COV_Dogtooth]

How do you do this player 2 wavedash method into ewgf or iWS moves?

[@Chris_F]

I’m working on a guide please be patient because I’m very busy this weekend

[@Nyanm0t0]

Can the KBD be done as shown in the video with using the Razer Kitsune? Something tells me the SF6 SOCD setting (pressing left and right simultaneously will result in a neutral input) that the Kitsune is stuck with interferes with it. I have more success getting the KBD to work on the keyboard than on the Kitsune. Can somebody confirm?

[@Nyanm0t0]

Nvm, it was just a skill-issue. Can confirm that it can be done of the Razer Kitsune! Incredible video, btw! Been watching countless KBD tutorials and this was the one that did it. The zoomed-in hands camera was a huge help! Thanks for not having it inverted like some others where you'd have to do mental gymnastics to decipher it. You've earned yourself a new sub.

[@Chris_F]

So glad I was able to help you! My favorite feeling is when I get comments like this!

[@fall7778]

do you still do wave dashes with 2 hands when going for electrics?

[@Chris_F]

Personal preference really but yeah I do

[@EVO_Engineering]

I dont have a Leverless Controller yet, may I ask is all of that valid for SOCD Cleaning on Neutral?

[@Chris_F]

Yes it is

[@EVO_Engineering]

@@Chris_FThanks!

[@sodapopinksi667]

You got the metal Haute42...I should've waited for that one lol. Thanks for the video.

[@Chris_F]

It’s great but I think the standard T16 is more than good enough. TBH I prefer the larger size of the T16 but the extra weight of the M16 is nice too

[@bigoleon]

@@Chris_F I was thinking about the T16 for the size but this one looked a little cooler. Thanks for confirming the size concern i had. Im used to playing in my lap and this transition needs to at least be close on one of my habits so its not ALL alien to me lol

[@Duks66]

maybe a dumb question but is the bryan drill same for all characters? im landing it on reina but can't on paul xdd

[@Chris_F]

No since not all characters have the same backdash speed and length

[@Duks66]

@@Chris_F interesting, there might be hope for my backdashing after all then. thx for the guide and content

[@johnanderson5627]

Hey, this is a great guide, my only worry about this is if this is allowed in tournaments? I've been doing this on keyboard for a while now and am getting a hitbox soon to start doing tournaments. But I'm worried I need to re learn the KBD because of the whole SOCD thing

[@Chris_F]

Allowed in tournaments. I competed at evo japan with these settings

[@johnanderson5627]

@@Chris_F Oh awesome. Thanks for answering man.

[@btm8614]

this guide helped me a lot but because I’m using two hands for the kbd and the wavedash I find it hard to do anything out of the wavedash and the kbd any tips ? Also struggle to get enteric out of wavu

[@Chris_F]

Slow, methodical practice

[@btm8614]

No I mean like any tips of the hand placement etc because it feels like I can’t even reach the buttons haha

[@Chris_F]

@btm8614 everyone is different so I think it’s just best if you experiment yourself

[@bespoke555]

For some reason I always get hit by the last hit in Bryan’s string when doing your KBD drill. Any tips? Been stuck for 2 days now.

[@Chris_F]

It’s not *super* important to learn. It’s hard to say what’s wrong without seeing your inputs, but you’re either cancelling the backdash too fast or cancelling to slow. Also keep in mind that characters have different backdash distances so it might not be possible at all with your character. I’d say you’re more than OK if you’re getting hit by only the last hit of Bryan’s string.

[@Miguelstradamus]

Is KBD or wavedash any different for bryan. Im having trouble especially with the wavedash because bryan does that swooping movement as he goes foward killing my momentum.

[@Chris_F]

That’s not a wavedash, that’s a step unique to a few characters. Bryan cannot wavedash. KBD is the same for the whole cast if done with the proper input used in this video

[@Miguelstradamus]

@@Chris_F that explains it

[@jmtcbeatz]

Can i still use a hitbox thats for playstation/pc but for xbox? If not is there any way to use a hitbox controller for xbox?

[@Chris_F]

Not sure, I don’t own an xbox

[@kyrouske]

what mode socd do I run ?up, nuetral, last win, first win, or off ? i have T16

[@Chris_F]

Neutral!

[@STFUppercut69]

Could it be that not every leverless can do this? I'm on the Victrix Pro leverless and I can't perform anything with doing a back dash, holding back and then alternate between down and forward. It just doesn't register it as a normal input.

[@Chris_F]

Check your SOCD settings

[@AceHatake]

How effective are these techniques if you want to do wavedash into electric or ws cancels? Can you do a video of you implementing this from these techniques? Maybe mid match too?

[@Chris_F]

They are very effective. I tested them all. I don’t main Mishima characters and I learned how to do this just for the video but I’ll see if I can learn for mid-match. Might take some time though

[@AceHatake]

@@Chris_F ok thanks for that, maybe just show it in training mode?

[@Chris_F]

@AceHatake I def will, that’s my next idea

[@MegaCityGhost]

The question is, how do I do moves out of that P2 wavu method. Like electrics and iws2.

[@Chris_F]

I’m currently working on getting a video on that done! Please wait a bit more

[@JimmyHopkins-nb6yc]

New to tekken and im a nina main. So is nina wavedash the same requirements as everyone else? Ive been told that nina has a snake dash & im unsure whats the differences between wavedash & snakedash. Im trying to make sure im practicing this wavedash/snakedash properly with nina lol because ive practiced for a few days but got nowhere

[@Chris_F]

No hers is different. Snake dash is done with a qcf motion and then cancelled into another qcf.

[@bennymountain1]

Hooo boy, just when I thought pushing buttons with my left hand was cray enough, it appears that I also have to involve my RIGHT hand in movement. FML, I guess, back to my PS3 controller...

[@Chris_F]

You don’t have to! Just my recommendation for fast inputs and less left hand strain

[@davose8756]

I can’t get used to using right index for motion. So with me playing Feng, I use up instead of down with my right thumb. It will not work for characters with back flips.

[@Chris_F]

That works too but personally I prefer this method. Use what works for you!

[@davose8756]

@@Chris_F yea I’ve heard it can create issues with whiff punishment but idc it is what works for me

[@holeman6143]

What is your hitbox using in the video? I would like to have one :)

[@Chris_F]

It’s a haute 42 T16. I have a review video too! Can’t recommend it enough

[@gatsuberserk4227]

Unfortunately for me as a Keyboard player the last technique doesn't seem to work since as soon as i hold Back + Forward even if i press Down after it still gives me neutral. Shame that it doesn't work for Keyboard , would have been really usefull.

[@Chris_F]

Sorry, I’ve never used keyboard so I don’t know how to make it work. Maybe someone can help

[@animoney1]

what is the finger sleeve you have for the P2 KBD?

[@Chris_F]

It’s just a basic sleeve for mobile phone gaming I bought at a dollar store here in Japan

[@animoney1]

I'm looking for a glove to use my snackbox micro with to help with sliding. Was wondering if you had tried that @@Chris_F

[@Chris_F]

Sorry haven’t tried yet, I like my finger condoms😎

[@animoney1]

can't be sliding in raw LOL@@Chris_F

[@thaisennj9781]

What’s that on your finger so i can buy it

[@Chris_F]

Finger gloves for gaming on your phone

[@squallleonhart9405]

How is your SOCD configured?

[@Chris_F]

Down + up = neutral

[@dragonwarriorht]

What’s the name of the hitbox you use?

[@Chris_F]

I use a haute42 T16 and sometimes an S16 or M16

[@Jalen-sm1op]

how is this applicable in a real fight since you have yours hands off of any attack buttons?

[@Chris_F]

Personally I shift my fingers like this (1P side): LP/LK = middle finger RP/RK = ring finger

[@Goss84]

What controller is that? Looks like super razer kitsune.

[@Chris_F]

It’s a haute42 M16. Similar to the T16 I reviewed two weeks ago but with an aluminum body. Highly recommended, I love this thing!!!

[@lmaoborghini5243]

How do you feel about Korean Backdash using up for leverless?

[@Chris_F]

Good but it doesn’t work with characters who have a backflip. I tried to find the most comfortable input that is not only fast but universal

[@Wavionn]

Is there any leverless controllers for ps5?

[@Chris_F]

Yes there are many but I recommend the haute 42 T16 with a brook ps4->ps5 converter if you are a Tekken player

[@CheeseTheFeared]

Can you do egwf hitbox tutorial please ?

[@Chris_F]

I’m already working on it

[@wata1991]

Any tips for side stepping rapidly on hit box?

[@Chris_F]

Nothing but practice. I find it quite easy on hit box though

[@gestanosamuel466]

in 1P you slide from back to down repeatedly in 2P you slide from right to down try it

[@Screenamerockz]

What finger sleeves are those

[@Chris_F]

Just some cheap ones for cell phone games I picked up at my local dollar store

[@strawhatrore2072]

Since you already did the work of time stamps, could you please just write Chapters: on the line above that in your description? Then we can easily skim through

[@Chris_F]

Sorry, forgot to add that! I just put it in now. Thank you for the heads up

[@strawhatrore2072]

@@Chris_F Thanks man, appreciate you!

[@Sinxi69420]

what if i wanted an electric, my index is on arrow key.

[@Chris_F]

Use your ring finger

[@user-tx3sj8su1c]

how to do electrics and hellsweeps with this technique? 5:17

[@Chris_F]

That’s my next video!

[@popelipo6281]

After trying the practice method vs brian I can with certainty say its literally impossible for me to kbd. Just gonna give up on the game

[@Chris_F]

Don’t let this frustrate you! It’s not something you need to learn until after about blue ranks. Come back to it later. I’m sorry if this caused you frustration but trust me just forget about it for now and enjoy the game!

[@homielover]

Why is your left middlefinger monochrome.

[@Chris_F]

I’m wearing a finger glove for mobile phone gaming. I find it helps me slide with less friction and pain than just using my finger

[@animeavatar2438]

no way you can dodge all of bryans string just aint no way. i saw you do it, i saw it happen, i looked at the frames. aintnowayboy im screwed.

[@keevoproductions4278]

is this tournament legal?

[@Chris_F]

Yes!

[@BazedSlavaryan]

Is this tournament legal?

[@Chris_F]

Yes

[@JackDTank]

it possible to get a king wave dash on hitbox?

[@Chris_F]

I don’t main king so I’ll have to learn this, I might just post it as a KZbin short since I don’t think it needs more than a minute to explain

[@bossofthisgym3945]

why would you teach them doing kbd with both hands when you can just use 1 hand sliding method to do it pretty much the same way on both sides? kbd with 2 hands is shit as it limits your whiff punishment capability having your both hands focused on doing kbd motion/and it requires a different technique on p2

[@gestanosamuel466]

It feel awkward to slide left ring or middle finger in 2P side, but yeah thats the method i use, i use my left middle finger to slide for 2P KBD Can you share your method?

[@bossofthisgym3945]

@@gestanosamuel466 It does feel awkward but doing it with 2 hands is not worth it no matter how much easier it feels On p2 you keep index on bb, and slide down on bottom corners of the d and f buttons with middle and ring fingers respectively.

[@gestanosamuel466]

@@bossofthisgym3945 i agree to you, i’ll try that, thanks

[@Chris_F]

I was a professional musician in my 20s so I find it easy to move my hands in and out of position while using my middle and ring finger for attack buttons. Like I said in the video, this is what *I* find to be best. We all have different preferences so use what works for you!

[@pmg-fg3if]

As someone who dosent play sf saying the input as a hadoken made it harder to understand tbh

[@Chris_F]

Akuma was in T7!

[@Squig911]

Paul players dont have to think very hard because he's the strongest in the universe, duh. (Cheesy comment for the algorithm) Lol

[@Chris_F]

Paul players only want ONR thing and it’s DISGUSTING

[@louisedyhlen3234]

why not just do it manually?

[@Chris_F]

Bc I don’t learn leverless to do manual inputs. I’m not being mean, just saying that’s why

[@crucialtrends9545]

This shit is hard🥲

[@Chris_F]

Take it slow and you’ll get it

[@Sammysapphira]

Sorry but two handed inputs are just dumb. Taking your hands away from the attack buttons will just get you killed.

[@Chris_F]

I use my other fingers for attack buttons

[@sergeantslippery7703]

Yeah is this possible to do with one hand only? I'd definitely lose & get my hand placement tangled up doing this