2.0L Turbo vs 3.6L Jeep Wrangler JL Which is better? Part 2 Off Road Test!

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@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the feedback! If you liked this video make sure you subscribe for more JL content. If you want to find any of the parts we installed on these JL's click the link below. www.cjponyparts.com/2018-jeep-wrangler-jl-parts/c/4552/
@15615145616513
@15615145616513 6 жыл бұрын
What about gas mileage ? Curious how the 2.0 handles 35s.
@grimyjersey6499
@grimyjersey6499 5 жыл бұрын
So, if someone was new to off-roading and looking for a Jeep would you recommend a 2 or 4 dr, auto or manual trans., and what gear ratio? If I were to put bigger tires (38's or 40's) would you recommend getting a base model since the gearing would have to be changed anyway?
@christiangarcia9307
@christiangarcia9307 3 жыл бұрын
@@grimyjersey6499 maybe my advice would be that you should go with auto,v6 and 2door until you get more experience.Hope this helps you.Be safe and enjoy your new ride.
@trl510
@trl510 6 жыл бұрын
2 door vs 4 door not a good comparison should be the same
@PhilGBeebe
@PhilGBeebe 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
These are both company vehicles, with the same size tire and gear ratio, in a perfect world we would have both of them either 2-door or 4-door, however this was the closest test that could be performed, and with just a few hundred pounds difference, it was pretty close!
@tnitron9750
@tnitron9750 5 жыл бұрын
Disappointed with the 4 cylinder engine. Looks like that 8 speed made All The Difference. MPG difference in the two engines?
@Triple88a
@Triple88a 5 жыл бұрын
@@tnitron9750 Dyno shows the 4 cylinder has more torque.
@sabrinafaer1173
@sabrinafaer1173 5 жыл бұрын
OMG...I have a JL2.0T/4CYL 2018 2D STOCK (never even took any air out of the tires) and I have taken mine off-road once (I haven't made my first payment yet). lol Muddy and steep terrain and it was on a green trail (green like me). I am an absolute newb here and this was both my first ride and my first Jeep. That said...after I got off that trail and recovered (mentally...LMAO) I really enjoyed everything about it except for the mud pits. Thank you for your input/test results...it actually confirmed what I thought to be true for the 2/4...it was a good ride and I never did get stuck (close but didn't). Ran it in 4H until the one mud pit when I did almost get stuck...ran it down to 4L and got right out of it. I get tired of everyone's "mine's better than yours" "wait until you get the lift kit and big tires" BS...I just want to see the comparison and I am very happy with my choice. THANK YOU AGAIN!
@DimplesChild401
@DimplesChild401 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 4 door and my Jeep is still pretty much stock except for my wheels, tires and decals. I still refuse to put 35’s on my Jeep. It would only make me lose torque and I’m loving the gas mileage I’m getting with my wide 33’s.
@kingrachid2116
@kingrachid2116 4 ай бұрын
I own a JK 2017 Rubicon, 4 doors 3.6 V6 lifted with 35'' tires it's smooth and powerful, it's my first Jeep so I can't compare it with other Wranglers , I just love it
@visionplayer10
@visionplayer10 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a '19 jeep wrangler sahara unlimited with the 2.0 turbo. I havent even picked it up yet. I was wondering if i made a mistake but you just made me feel a hell of alot better about that engine!!
@fleeingshadows7340
@fleeingshadows7340 10 ай бұрын
Hey, now that it's been 4 years what do you think of it? I was thinking of buying a 21' sport or sport s, one has a V6 other is 2 turbo
@phrogusmc
@phrogusmc 8 ай бұрын
@@fleeingshadows7340 2.0t all the way. It's a noisy engine, but it's got gobs of torque. Doesn't even feel 35s under it with stock 4.10 gears, although your Sports would have 3.73s. I put a 93 octane Superchips tune on mine and it made a noticeably large difference in power.
@fleeingshadows7340
@fleeingshadows7340 8 ай бұрын
@@phrogusmc I'll look into it. Appreciate it big time boss
@mandytuning
@mandytuning 5 жыл бұрын
You cant compare torque by rpm cause a lot of factors as torque converter stator and turbine setup is different from v6 to 4cyl,also if you want to feel the torque in a turbo engine you need to create load,pull a broken vehicel in that trail and you will clearly see the 2.0 torque shine
@HondaAholic
@HondaAholic Жыл бұрын
You're more likely to climb up steep inclines without towing a broken vehicle.. sure, maybe the 2.0T can do that better, but these aren't really made for towing to begin with, so why test that? I'm curious about the capabilities from a bigger turbo and a tune.
@mikee5507
@mikee5507 5 жыл бұрын
3.6 OR 2.0? NOPE. I WANT A V8 !
@obravo85
@obravo85 5 жыл бұрын
You are biased to the 6. The turbo would also work better in higher elevations . Turbo engines also use the excess exhaust to make more power so naturally the engine speed would be higher - actually the manual says he engine speed will rise up to 3 times in rubicon models - It’s not a very good comparison dude.
@atamagashock
@atamagashock 4 жыл бұрын
The rubicon 2.0 with the 4.10 is a totally different animal
@bfighter8930
@bfighter8930 4 жыл бұрын
How so? Would you choose the 4 cyl over the 3.6? I've heard how fast the 4 cyl is.
@03serk103
@03serk103 6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the efforts, but the comparison is apples to oranges. 2 door vs four door, automatic vs manual, totally useless comparison.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
They both have the automatic transmission!
@03serk103
@03serk103 6 жыл бұрын
My bad, around 1:46 you said manual in 1st gear. After your reply I realized you're in the manual gate of the automatc's shifter. I've seen a few of your videos and they are edited well with nice camera work.
@rabbitruck
@rabbitruck 6 жыл бұрын
It does make it tough to assess when there is more than one major variable in play. If the Jeeps were identical besides engine, it would be easier to tell what difference the 4 vs 6 makes. When you throw 2 door vs 4 door in this mix, it muddies the water quite a bit and limits the usefulness of the comparo.
@mrcras7257
@mrcras7257 4 жыл бұрын
I came here to post that
@jf4500
@jf4500 6 жыл бұрын
When I bought my JL, I went with the 3.6 and manual trans. This is my third Wrangler, all with the 3.6, no issues with any of them. The 3.6/manual is $3000 cheaper than the 2.0/automatic, and the 3.6 is a known quantity and technically less complex. That said, if I lived at high altitude, then I would have given more consideration for the 2.0 turbo. But I think I still would have gone with 3.6 and then added a supercharger later.
@jbivvy420
@jbivvy420 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2019 JL2.0T Unlimited Rubicon and I have done trails like you've been doing and it creeps just right. No slow down in slick PNW conditions.
@teamextreme334
@teamextreme334 5 жыл бұрын
I keep seeing these comments saying “these little turbo motors get expensive”....have any of you owned a turbo 4 cylinder?? The turbo is the only part that cost more then normal, other then that..it’s just a four cylinder...and it will be easier to make power out of...more bang for your buck by far lol. This is just getting silly lol.
@lazupa
@lazupa 3 жыл бұрын
I live in China, my father in law just got the 2L turbo coz is the only one available now due to the emission regulation. So my guess is that the 2L Turbo has been developed for this kind of reason...
@vanderz1012
@vanderz1012 4 жыл бұрын
I'd take the 3.6 personally. Here in South Africa they're a dime a dozen. 2.0 T isn't even here yet and the 2.8 diesel is so hard to find so based on that the 3.6 would be my choice
@JPE_DRAEB
@JPE_DRAEB 6 жыл бұрын
So can't wait to compare to the 3.0 diesel!
@t.breeze8659
@t.breeze8659 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve driven both. My experience was opposite of your experience. It’s counter intuitive but the 4 cylinder felt like it had noticeably more torque at lower end. Felt snappier from 0 every time. Can’t say I understand how they did it but the 3.6 didn’t feel it had same power. The 2L 4 cylinder is like having the Pedal Commander set to sport + on the 3.6L 6 cylinder and gearing modded.
@estebanamador7601
@estebanamador7601 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe because the mild hybrid system.
@claudeperrault4164
@claudeperrault4164 6 жыл бұрын
For me it is the 3.6 and this is what I ordered on my 2019 Rubicon. It’s been around the block a few times, it is cheaper to maintain and in my non professional opinion, easier to modify. I am glad that we have a choice of engines with the new JL. Good review, but as someone else mentioned, two unlimited or two two doors should have been used for the test. I know that it is not always possible to do so. I really liked your tests and comments. Cudos to all!
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and also congrats on the Rubi!
@PAB712
@PAB712 6 жыл бұрын
Do they run the same torque converter? A test or two in there was more a converter comparison than engine IMHO.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Same transmission, so it should be the same torque converter!
@DJ80s
@DJ80s 5 жыл бұрын
@@CJBroncoF150 Is it the same gear ratio?
@twowheelslater7112
@twowheelslater7112 5 жыл бұрын
what I wish I knew was how does the 2.0 do on 87 octane. its 40cent a gallon more for premium here and then you still have to pay 1000 for an upgrade to a 4 cylinder. that just sounds weird to say upgrade to 4 cylinder. anyway if the power drops off with regular gas and fuel economy too I just dont see it. all that and it still sounds like a 4 cylinder. the torque curv is pretty sweet on the 4 banger tho.
@martinisaksson5562
@martinisaksson5562 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think the turbo will have any problem. In europe we have had 4cyl gasoline and diesel turbos fore a long time. The oil is so good nowadays it wont wear as it did 20years ago
@steelthreefifty
@steelthreefifty 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently most people commenting don't understand dyno charts or where the engine pulls. The 2.0 does have more torque than a stock 3.6. But the 3.6 pulls sooner at lower rpm. The 2.0 spools up a little later in the higher rpm. Where you won't be crawling at. The 3.6 is better at lower rmp and you don't have turbo heat. The 3.6 is also detuned compared to the Ram or charger by a considerable margin. Doesn't take much to unlock it. The 2.0 is a great street motor with zip
@TheSchmed
@TheSchmed 4 жыл бұрын
Do a comparison with the 3.0 ecodiesel
@hikerstl
@hikerstl 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video comparing the two engines, but I am confused by the 2L Turbo engines. If you go the Jeep website they have two apparently different 2L Turbo engines listed as options, 2.0L I4 DOHC DI Turbo Engine w/ ESS and the 2.0L I4 DOHC DI Turbo eTorque Engine. What are the differences between these two? Which of these engines were you driving? Do both of these drivetrains use a 48 volt battery? Are there difference in their rated HP and Torque?
@claydomenico5034
@claydomenico5034 5 жыл бұрын
Had an 09 jku that I loved, ended up trading it in for a Ford Focus ST. Fun commuter car, and the turbo is pretty addicting. Looking to get back into a Jeep, and trying to decide if the 2.0L is worth considering.
@GodRam1988
@GodRam1988 6 жыл бұрын
I love the 3.6 in my grand Cherokee. Makes the power of a v8 not all that long ago and I average 20 mpg and get up to 26 cruising at 80 mph great little engine. They hold boost we’ll also
@DeathScouter
@DeathScouter 4 жыл бұрын
In 4-LO 4WD, even the crappy 3.8L is good enough on trails, but the 2.0 TC is helped by an electric torque motor (not sure you mentioned it), so the engine itself w/ turbo isn't enough... it needed electric assist. But the bottom line is that the torque is there when needed. I think you did a good job trying to keep things even and I definitely appreciate the effort for the video overall. It seems either engine is OK. Sadly the 2.0L TC doesn't offer any significant increase in fuel consumption so really..... it's buyer's choice. Good job though!
@marylandestatetreasures6952
@marylandestatetreasures6952 2 жыл бұрын
I know this video is from 2018, but I purchased a 2022 2.0L I-4 and does just fine. In the years of tweaking the engine for better performance, I am showing fewer RPMs than your tests. It is not as bouncy and is very capable. I am not a hard-core trail rider. I consider myself on the amateur end of average, but it has done very well. For the record, it's a 2022 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon with OEM steel bumper and stock tires. My only complaint is that on the highway I feel like I have to push it to get more power. Acceleration for passing is not has strong as I would like. But I am comparing the Jeep to my previous vehicle (Chevy pickup) with an 8 cylinder. I think Jeep/Stellantis did a good job with tweaking the engine between your tests and today.
@DimplesChild401
@DimplesChild401 2 жыл бұрын
Those steel bumpers and any tires bigger than 33’s is going to decrease your power. The most you can do to balance it out is to delete your spare tire and you will see a pretty decent increase in power. Not sure what size wheels you have, but 16’s or 17’s is the way.
@tnrelichunter7848
@tnrelichunter7848 3 жыл бұрын
Got to look at gearing on both as well
@jessaphillips2846
@jessaphillips2846 3 жыл бұрын
In another response they stated that the two Jeep’s have the same tire size and gear ratio
@imperius_lxxvii9999
@imperius_lxxvii9999 5 жыл бұрын
i do have the 2.0T in my 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk Elite. love it. Just wish I could have gotten the incoming 3.0 Diesel engine for the Wrangler in my Cherokee.
@Triple88a
@Triple88a 5 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is the 2.0 actually has more torque.
@dmwil1
@dmwil1 6 жыл бұрын
On paper, the engines aren't that different. I went with the V6 because it is a proven world -class V6, and it was the only way I could get a manual. I'm sure the 4 is great, and it would show a pretty good advantage at high altitude, such as in Colorado. I'll also say this for the V6...Mine really started to come to life around 9,000 miles. It seems to rev more freely and have a little more power across the entire power band. It is really well matched to the manual transmission.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The V6 has been proven over the years now!
@josephgodin2260
@josephgodin2260 5 жыл бұрын
Well having both the 3.6 and 4.0 I still like the feel of my 4.0 better. Now doesn't that 2.0 use the starter for driving extra torque on a 48V sytem. If so i can kinda see problems long term if you do a lot of offroad.
@JP-nisu_2
@JP-nisu_2 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve driven manual trans all my life and bought my 1st auto Tran in a 13’ Rubicon 3.6L - Love the Jeep “Hate The Auto Trans” worst Milage I have ever got in a Jeep. 13-15 mpg never got mpg on sticker. Drive mainly intercity commutes. Some trail. Will sell soon!
@LuisF.Teixeira
@LuisF.Teixeira Жыл бұрын
Wondering if either the V6 or 4 are timing chain, or belt? Witch one would be more reliable? Thanks
@V8AmericanMuscleCar
@V8AmericanMuscleCar 6 жыл бұрын
V6 for me! 😃 Low end torque is very important for off road so bigger is better.
@thomascarpenter5536
@thomascarpenter5536 6 жыл бұрын
Not quite. The 4 banger produces much more torque down low. Like 35 tq under 3k rpm more. Google the dyno plots, they may surprise you.
@rosco1883
@rosco1883 6 жыл бұрын
@@thomascarpenter5536 under 2k the v6 builds tq faster.
@thomascarpenter5536
@thomascarpenter5536 6 жыл бұрын
@@rosco1883 Every plot I have seen shows the 4 producing more over like 1400 rpm and that is due to spooling the turbo up. JL Wrangler forums was the most conservative. Imagine how much better the 4 banger is at any sort of altitude.
@rosco1883
@rosco1883 6 жыл бұрын
@@thomascarpenter5536 I have seen in person and there is not much boost at low rpm. Bad turbo lag down low where you need it. This is the resin even the guy in the video said the V6 has more low in to. When you are in 4low like he is the electric assist is disabled. Natural aspirated is always more reliable the any kind of power adder. If you want a little more power just put on a few bolt ons and call it good.
@thomascarpenter5536
@thomascarpenter5536 6 жыл бұрын
@@rosco1883 I have not driven the 4 offroad yet so I really need to now. I just don't see much lag in those plots and with such a small turbo... hopefully I'll get to test them side by side soon.
@4-LOW
@4-LOW 6 жыл бұрын
Too many people purchase simply on initial "feel". They don't think about how life will be with their choice at 30,000 miles, 60,000 miles, 100,000 miles. These little turbo motors end up getting expensive.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
OFFRD great point!
@MaxxCoyote
@MaxxCoyote 5 жыл бұрын
The problem I'm having is the Jeep dealership that is offering the best deal, ONLY HAS the 4 cylinder turbocharged. Literally the only reason I haven't bought it is because I'm unsure about the engine. Trying to find information about it's reliability and upkeep however, have been like pulling friggin teeth.
@kieransteele7223
@kieransteele7223 5 жыл бұрын
If your buying new and selling before the warranty ends though, long term reliability doesn’t matter to much
@MetalHayd
@MetalHayd 6 жыл бұрын
Different transmissions, different gear ratios.
@bltodd578
@bltodd578 5 жыл бұрын
My friend owns a JL with a 3.6 and he had his supercharged with a edelbrock system and all I can say is that that JL can make them tires scream! Talking about bottom end torque?? Yeah he got it.
@70camaro406
@70camaro406 4 жыл бұрын
Driver kept saying that the v6 had more low end torque. It obviously doesn’t, as the turbo 4 makes more torque than the v6 everywhere in the rpm range, especially down low. I think he was confusing “better low end torque” for better throttle response, which it would have, since it would take a little more throttle to spool the turbo and start making it’s power in the 4 banger. Good video though. My 69 yo father bought a 4 dr JL Sahara with the 2.0 turbo last year. Has plenty of power and gets great mileage to boot.
@ScottsOutWest
@ScottsOutWest 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I can't wait to see the comments on this one! I've never seen such a heated debate. I'll start it off by saying, personally I'd take the normally aspirated 3.6 in my Jeep (which I did). And this comes from a guy who ALWAYS has a supercharged or turbo charged vehicle sitting next to the Jeep in the garage. Let the comments begin...
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a supercharged JK with the 3.6, can't wait to see what the supercharger will do on the JL!
@ericas6296
@ericas6296 5 жыл бұрын
But why tho
@CaptainSkidmark11
@CaptainSkidmark11 3 жыл бұрын
@@CJBroncoF150 have you any problem with it being supercharged? I would think that the motor would need stronger rods....this is why I'm asking.
@brentdolan7567
@brentdolan7567 4 жыл бұрын
great stuff I have a 2020 JLU 3.6L and love it... drives like a dream. A friend has a 2.O model and uses it as a commuter car and loves it. saves a bit more on gas due to him sitting in traffic lol
@banksf1372
@banksf1372 10 ай бұрын
What's the brand of that front bumper on the Gray Jeep?
@davidkarner4909
@davidkarner4909 4 жыл бұрын
Are both of these Rubicons? Just wondering if the 4LO transfer ratios were the same if you were comparing rpms? Also, the reason 3.6 feels more choppy is because it has less torque down below, not more. By having less, you need more rpms to get the same torque and because its spinning faster now, you get more bounce.
@MatthiasNyberg
@MatthiasNyberg 10 ай бұрын
What happens when you're in super tough terrain and the battery runs out?
@jermur8053
@jermur8053 Жыл бұрын
Are they running the same torque converter?
@keithgriner
@keithgriner 4 жыл бұрын
On a four Versus a six cylinder instead of just flat out RPM measuring, why not measure what percentage of the AVAILABLE OR POSSIBLE RPM (0- redline) it takes to make it up the hill. Then you are measuring what percentage of its capability is being used, I think that’s more fair and a better approach
@John-cq3hk
@John-cq3hk 3 жыл бұрын
In worried that the added weight from a after market front and back bumber will weigh the little 2.0t engine down.
@mr-t1243
@mr-t1243 6 жыл бұрын
Do they both have the same gearing. 2 door verse 4. I’m willing to bet the turbo on the 4 won’t last long spins too fast and it’s really cheap.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, same gearing, tires, suspension, etc.
@johng9726
@johng9726 3 жыл бұрын
Will adding a heavy front and back bumper to the 2.0..cause the JL to slow down much?
@hellaacapella
@hellaacapella 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t think so because the 2.0 weighs less than the 3.6 pentastar. Not to mention the turbo boost will give you more than enough power to handle any extra weight. Also, i believe the 2.0 is rated to tow 3500 lbs so i dont see any kind of bumpers slowing you down
@davidhunter1538
@davidhunter1538 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to know "which 2019 jeep wrangler type is best for towing a two tonne trailer up a steep hill"
@hellaacapella
@hellaacapella 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@RKmndo
@RKmndo 2 жыл бұрын
No Wrangler is rated to tow 4000lb in the USA. Not even an Eco-Diesel or 392. Try a Gladiator.
@scottdonbrosky5968
@scottdonbrosky5968 4 жыл бұрын
You’re comparing 2 vs 4 door. Obviously different wheel base lengths. Maybe I missed it, what gears do each trucks have ?
@philbethel8144
@philbethel8144 2 жыл бұрын
Does the 2.0l seem louder when I comes on in the Jeep 4xe
@grimyjersey6499
@grimyjersey6499 5 жыл бұрын
So, if someone was new to off-roading and looking for a Jeep would you recommend a 2 or 4 dr, auto or manual trans., and what gear ratio? If I were to put bigger tires (38's or 40's) would you recommend getting a base model since the gearing would have to be changed anyway?
@Militaryman64
@Militaryman64 5 жыл бұрын
In the end the maintenance on the 4banger is more expensive than the tried and true pentastar V6 eng. 😎
@hellaacapella
@hellaacapella 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Even though I’m excited for the hybrid wrangler next year, I don’t feel that it will last nearly as long as my ‘15 pentastar JK will
@lenniesjolin-nynas5155
@lenniesjolin-nynas5155 5 жыл бұрын
Here in Sweden we only get the 2.0L Turbo and a 2.2L Diesel. Sad that Jeep dosen´t take 3.6L to Sweden. What do you think about the 2.0 turbo on/off road? Is the 2.0L a good maskin?
@eyeofhoruswadjet4236
@eyeofhoruswadjet4236 5 жыл бұрын
to even be able to sell in Europe, auto manufactures cannot sell anything bigger than a 2.5l or something like that. This is the evolution of the automotive industry. I dont think its a bad thing.
@ryanwaters8393
@ryanwaters8393 6 жыл бұрын
What altitude are you doing this test at? I am at or above 6,800 - 7,000ft all day long. I wonder how much difference you would see between the two engines at that altitude? I am thinking the 4 banger starts to shine up high. What do you think?
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
At about 1000 feet elevation, i would also think that the 4 cylinder would do better in your application!
@mikethompson7406
@mikethompson7406 3 жыл бұрын
Lower end you have less torque on the 2.0? None of the graphs show that. I'm confused. I think I'll go with the empirical data. Still a good video to watch while I sit here waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for my '22 Jeep.
@mattgreen9323
@mattgreen9323 5 жыл бұрын
You needed to drive a little higher rpms to get into the boost
@jonlova2023
@jonlova2023 3 жыл бұрын
helo cj i watch your you tube chamel and learning some tips from you. ah i am just a first car buyer and i wanted to have a jeep 4 door wrangler . . what can you advice to me for a basic wrangler dreamer i only drive at the city and i wanted to change the tires into 35 sizes. so that the jeep will be look nice and can save more gas too pls give me some recomendation and tips thank you and more power to your chanel.
@markkillmer2541
@markkillmer2541 3 жыл бұрын
Which engine is best in the snow? My guess is 2.0.
@joshnasche5495
@joshnasche5495 6 жыл бұрын
Think I would go with the V6, I have a 92 jeep YJ and I have a 4 cylinder in that and I hate it, it has no power at all.
@michaelotoole7040
@michaelotoole7040 5 жыл бұрын
You need to try this new 4 cyl - it is awesome. And if you live anywhere where you will be driving at altitude (above 4,000 ft), the 3.6 doesn’t even come close.
@REBELSCL
@REBELSCL Жыл бұрын
I’m curious. Why in the world would you compare a two door to a four-door? Regardless of engine their needs are going to be totally different…..
@LivingFreeInAWrangler
@LivingFreeInAWrangler Жыл бұрын
I like how you keep comparing rpms vs the 2 engines. A 4cyl is supposed to rev, thats what it does. You also should have used the select speed in both
@coolmountainlife
@coolmountainlife Жыл бұрын
Rubicon has better gear ratio, and between the 3.6 vs 2.0T, the 3.6 performs slightly better with smoother throttle in my opinion.
@rexfloyd2109
@rexfloyd2109 6 жыл бұрын
What’s the lift/ tire type/ gear ratio your running? Wanting to get a jl/Jlu possibly next year and I like the set up you all are running haha
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
The 2-door is running a 3.5 inch JKS lift with 35 inch mud claws and 3:45 gears. The 4-door is on a 2 inch mopar lift with 35" mud grapplers and 3:45 gears!
@f143744
@f143744 3 жыл бұрын
You say the 4-cylinder is better, less chop. But, watch your video, the v-6 looks smoother. You’re not bias are you? I’m leaning to the 4-cylinder on my new Jeep.
@TheOKTerrificable
@TheOKTerrificable 6 жыл бұрын
How about reliability? The V6 is proven, but interested to see if the 4 cylinder has any issues. Hopefully not as bad as the diesel V6 being put in the Dodge trucks.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Time will tell i guess!
@THEBIGCHULETA
@THEBIGCHULETA 6 жыл бұрын
I like the rims on the green wrangler. What brand/name are the rims?
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
They are black rhino armory wheels, they can be found here: www.cjponyparts.com/black-rhino-armory-wheel-17-x9-5-gun-black-jeep-wrangler-jk-2007-2018-jl-2018-2019/p/795ARY512G/
@rozzbourn3653
@rozzbourn3653 5 жыл бұрын
what is the torque converter stalled to? most are stalled to 1800 rpm
@amolinari9
@amolinari9 4 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed after watching 2 of your videos and I approve! My heart wants the diesel but my gut tells me to get the gas...what about the 3L ecodiesel over the 2L? Also a 2 door over a 4 door is a different animal with the weight and wheelbase pros and cons.
@KansasSlim64
@KansasSlim64 5 жыл бұрын
I thought we were going to see some dyno comparisons. I scanned your other videos & didn’t see any.
@koochpix4117
@koochpix4117 4 жыл бұрын
What size tire dimensions are on those
@ggolds5
@ggolds5 6 жыл бұрын
So even more importantly... what do you think the reliability of the 4cyl. is going to be like. It's a Fiat/Alpha engine and wasn't initially designed for a truck as far as I know. So will it hold up, that concerns me. In 2 hours I'll be at the dealership and hopefully leave there with a deal on a 19 or an order. I am still wondering if I should just get an 18 or not, get it sooner and get it less expensive. However, I want the auto braking and the speed sensing cruise control now offered on a safety package for 19. The dilemma. I guess I have to make up my mind fast. Ive been thinking about this for a year now.
@Veruk22
@Veruk22 4 жыл бұрын
What did you end up getting? Im looking at two 4 door 2020 Saharas one is 3.6 the other 2.0L 4cyl turbo. I just don't know which one to get.
@devinphillips5644
@devinphillips5644 6 жыл бұрын
Thought u said they both had the same tires ? Yes maybe size but the tread is different. But good video
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Same size tires! Just different tread pattern!
@Evocati-Augusti
@Evocati-Augusti 5 жыл бұрын
I had a Special SAAB 25th Turbo anniversary edition..it came with a 2.0l turbo but had Viggen parts and the V on it, that small little car blew every V8 out of the water from 70-140..the Turbo was different it would whistle echoing threw blocks of buildings...miss that car
@barnesjg21
@barnesjg21 6 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. Were there any differences in gear ratio? Let me know next time y'all head up to AOAA, I'll wheel with ya.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds great! They were both 3.45 gears! We'll definitely be going towards spring time again!
@joshuafields9754
@joshuafields9754 6 жыл бұрын
I like this comparison. At least put the same tire combination on both rigs. Thanks.
@donovan007007
@donovan007007 6 жыл бұрын
What wheels are on the green Jeep??????
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
They are black rhino armory wheels: www.cjponyparts.com/black-rhino-armory-wheel-17-x9-5-gun-black-jeep-wrangler-jk-2007-2018-jl-2018-2019/p/795ARY512G/
@robertcurtis1112
@robertcurtis1112 2 жыл бұрын
I hate having a turbo vehicle for many reasons, minus the good gas mileage when I am not gunning it. The previous 4 Cylinder Wrangler would do good at low end if not for the turbo, because you are waiting for it to spool for that torque.
@bekajikia1754
@bekajikia1754 2 ай бұрын
3.6 will be more responsive in such situations. Don't refer to dyno charts and claim that 2.0 has more torque. That is just on paper under specific conditions. Dyno charts demonstrate full throttle power once turbo fully spools up. At low RPMs where you crawl at, and at part throttle situations where you modulate throttle lightly, the 3.6 will be better and more responsive. I own a 2.0 now. I had a 2011 3.8 auto before (which a lot of people hate on) and can clearly say that in low range 3.8 was much more responsive and it would crawl over things with less effort, even with its terrible long gearing in the transmission. Once in 4 low you had to really push the breaks harder to prevent it from going. Nothing like that in 2.0. It has much lower 1st gear but i barely feel any difference when I engage 4 low and put it in Drive. Only when you get going and RPMs climb, you start feeling the difference. Now I will not say anything about how 2.0 just rolls downhill while larger 3.6 and 3.8 are able to maintain low speed during descends much much better.
@q50avery20
@q50avery20 4 жыл бұрын
*SRT has entered the chat*
@ramblingrich3544
@ramblingrich3544 6 жыл бұрын
the tires appeared to be 80 psi ...you would get less bounce and more traction where you guys unprepared to Air down? and I feel the only Real /kinda part was the hill start-stop everything is feeling and 2/door /4/door and I don't feel any of that was challenging enough you need to wheel the same trail for a day and not just a photo shoot ...I wheel harder picking up my kid from school. I don't think this does anyone any good.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Tires were aired down to about 20 psi, and if you wheel harder than that picking your kids up from school you should talk to your local representative, and ask him where your tax dollars are going!
@cerberus4694
@cerberus4694 5 жыл бұрын
What wheels/rims are on that gray 4dr?
@olivergomez1191
@olivergomez1191 5 жыл бұрын
Mpg please!
@karmicforce01
@karmicforce01 4 жыл бұрын
290 ft-lbs at 1500 less RPM on the 2.0 vs 3.6.... it means it should do better ...
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 6 жыл бұрын
Nice test,thks.
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ryanlawson144
@ryanlawson144 6 жыл бұрын
Anybody out there running 87 in their 2.0? Manual says designed for 87 but 91 preferred
@conniekennard7362
@conniekennard7362 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Lawson I run both in my 18 rubicon and notice a .4 mpg difference. That has been the only thing I noticed. 22.7 on 91+ octane consistently. I love the 2.0. I have the 4:10 ratio and 8 sp auto and it will smoke the V6 every time. I don’t agree with most that the V6 is the best. This is just my findings and maybe I got a (good Jeep) .
@markymvrkmusic
@markymvrkmusic 4 жыл бұрын
And whats the comparison in usage of fuel while doing this? Because thats what they point at in this generation. Smaller engine with a turbo that presses the same or equal power but with less fuel. Just like these normal 5 door cars these days with 1.1 to 1.3 3 cilinders and a turbo that brings you the same performance as a 1.6 or 1.8. How ever, in some countries you pay extra taxes by the weight of the car and the engine size and fuel usage. So i still think people would go for a lighter car with a lighter engine that almost brings the same amount of power and torque as the brutal heavier one. But still. A v6 3.6L is bad ass doesn’t matter how you take it :’)
@rickb8808
@rickb8808 5 жыл бұрын
If you own a Jeep as a status symbol vehicle and just use it as transportation around town maybe the turbo. If you use the Jeep as it should be used and get it dirty, I'd get the V6. Turbo's get expensive being abused the older they get.
@vm2958
@vm2958 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so stressed I got the 4 cylinder turbo I had no clue lol I was looking for bells and whistles I did tell the dealership I didn’t want new technology I hope I didn’t make a mistake I have been a little worried about it I keep watching these videos see if the turbo wins lol
@robertgoins7933
@robertgoins7933 5 жыл бұрын
You're going to love it. I picked up my 2.0L rubicon the end of December and it's been great. Most negative comments come from people who've never driven one. The hurricane motor is a proven engine and it's been in the Fiat lineup for some time. It's not new technology. The ESS has been flawless. The mileage is awesome. On my 600 mile trip home from the dealer I averaged 24.8 mpg. The only advice I'll give you is to run 91 or 93 octane fuel. I've also had a 2017 rubicon with the 3.6 engine so I've driven both. For me the 2.0L is way more fun to drive...
@TruckerOak
@TruckerOak 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new Jeep! Don't be stressed! Enjoy your new ride! People pick things apart to ridiculousness! Best wishes and happy Jeeping! 😊 👋
@andrewvollman1977
@andrewvollman1977 5 жыл бұрын
V M I love my Turbo!! No issues! It’s a champ!
@jared2661able
@jared2661able 4 жыл бұрын
Curious how it’s held up. My son just bought one with the 2 liter
@DimplesChild401
@DimplesChild401 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully as of today, you aren’t on the fence and enjoying your Jeep.
@snowboardingcolorado4623
@snowboardingcolorado4623 6 жыл бұрын
Are these sports?
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
Yes the 2-door is a sport, the 4-door is the sport-S
@snowboardingcolorado4623
@snowboardingcolorado4623 6 жыл бұрын
Thx for the quick reply. Do you think if they were rubicons the performance would change?i am in the market and on the fence.
@62Sketch
@62Sketch 4 жыл бұрын
Someone is obviously biased for the 3.6
@win-u1561
@win-u1561 6 жыл бұрын
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@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 6 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right, CJ Off-Road is the best KZbin channel for your off road needs!
@thomascarpenter5536
@thomascarpenter5536 6 жыл бұрын
@@CJBroncoF150 Well played
@xxxnorth9078
@xxxnorth9078 4 жыл бұрын
i remember back in the 90's when Jeep Wrangler has that crappy 123HP 4 cylinder engine VS the 4.0L 6 cylinder 180HP......that 4 was so weak. my brain is trained to tell me that a 4 cylinder is NO GOOD for a Wrangler, even tho this new 4 cylinder turbo engine does seem very good
@RKmndo
@RKmndo 2 жыл бұрын
Jeeps have had 4cyls since the beginning. The 2.5L in the YJs was a decent match for the 5spd and 30" mudders. It would bog down in 1st/4H before it buried itself in deep, heavy snow/mud. Then you could back out in 4L. My 4.2L Jeeps had similar power, but enough torque to bury themselves in 1st/4H. With a K&N and a catback, a 2.5L/5spd YJ could turn 30" mudders at over 80MPH on stock 4.10s. That's enough giddyup for me.
@smokeGR14
@smokeGR14 4 жыл бұрын
3.6 2 door decimates
@chriscardoza9714
@chriscardoza9714 6 жыл бұрын
awesome as aways so those trans work really good l see...
@yolodolo9143
@yolodolo9143 3 жыл бұрын
Why not put a turbo on a V6?
@CJBroncoF150
@CJBroncoF150 3 жыл бұрын
thats a great idea or even a blower
@RKmndo
@RKmndo 2 жыл бұрын
Without forged internals and the like, boost may blow a V6. Turbo kits are also usually $3K+ US.
@robboat6269
@robboat6269 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing of equal stance beats the 4L motor.
@chavey10
@chavey10 6 жыл бұрын
4.7 liter V8 Quadra drive 🙌🏽
@froggy-man
@froggy-man 5 жыл бұрын
Is this the vid that got him fired?
@paulsumpter9573
@paulsumpter9573 5 жыл бұрын
It was Freddie that was fired, not Matt.
@Thecherokee4x4
@Thecherokee4x4 4 ай бұрын
Don't turbo engines fail sooner than a aspirated engine . All that carbon build up kills turbos.
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