I work in the metal finishing industry, and while harpic is good to clean your headers I actually find that a good quality limescale remover yields best results due to it's higher acid content which breaks down the oxidised areas much quicker and more effectively than harpic. Best to use some good quality rubber gloves and apply a generous dab of limescale remover to a rag and coat the pipes and leave on for a few minutes. I then thoroughly rinse the limescale remover off with water and then buff after with autosol. Also worth mentioning that using a spray bottle with this stuff inside is not advisable as it tends to get in places that you don't want and will immediately and permanently destroy any nearby zinc plating, mainly bolts and fixings.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for that. Nice to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about haha!
@sandert9897 Жыл бұрын
What is a good quality limescale remover?
@RedlineRossi Жыл бұрын
@@sandert9897 Harpic limescale remover is probably the strongest. But a homebrand version would be good too. Just remember to apply it to a rag (or an old paint brush) and wipe over the pipes. As said before, do not use a spray bottle.
@jase1158 Жыл бұрын
as you worked in the metal finishing industry i'm just curious to now have you ever used hydrochloric acid on stainless steel as it isn't resistant. have you tried barkeepers friend or phosphoric acid
@juicy9592 Жыл бұрын
How do you clean titanium headers?
@tonyquinn5715 Жыл бұрын
I've been using Harpic for years and it's been brilliant, followed by using Autosol with a drill polishing attachment.
@yorkshireR9T Жыл бұрын
I use harpic. Jet wash off for a good rinse, then autosol metal polish. When the weather is turning, I coat them in gt85. It helps stopping the muck sticking for an easier clean.
@phillipparuag87552 жыл бұрын
Bro! you're the man. Thank you so much for this video, I have been struggling with the same issue and this makes it so easier for me.
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Haha! It still takes a bit of effort but this makes it so much easier! Get rid of that awful orange rust look! Thanks for watching
@CeeRTee3 жыл бұрын
Hi thx for another top video. Be careful using the harpic with the pipes fitted because it will damage the soft aluminium engine cases pretty quick, its also a diminishing returns thing because as the acid eats the chromium in the stainless steel it will start to discolour quicker and quicker. The water pipes thing when I had my MT07 I took the pipes off cleaned them and resprayed them and they were spot on for the next couple of years when I eventually sold the bike on. Cheers
@SamVBikes3 жыл бұрын
Thought that might be the case too! Gave it a really good wash after so should be all okay! Good to know about the water pipes, will see what I can do. Thank you for watching!
@sbr11605 ай бұрын
Harpic 10x on my old Gixxer headers every time!! Brand them up spotless!! But a bit of metal polish just to bring them up nicely afterwards
@alexmorgan3435 Жыл бұрын
How did I miss this! Great vid. Very helpful comparison. "Over charge because they are A-holes" LoL. I already cleaned the Staintune stainless steel exhaust silencers of my VFR800 with Autosol, a rag and good old elbow grease. They came up better than new. The link pipe is stainless but the headers I'm not sure, but both have the flat light brown milky coffee appearance. Think I shall try Harpic, then a good rinse with water, dry and then use Autosol and a rag again. Might use a polishing wheel on my drill to reduce fatigue from a lot of wrist action. You were very disciplined and careful to make sure you said Blue Job. Right at the start when I saw the product selection I thought this video could be quite entertaining in the usual Sam Vincent style.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you mate! Glad you enjoyed a good old blue job 😂 The harpic, as much as some people seem to curse it, did a ridiculously good job with very minimal effort. So as long as you get all the residue off, I don't see any issues with it!
@phillipparuag87552 жыл бұрын
I think I'm gonna go with the Harpic, followed by a thorough wash with a degreaser and soap liquid and finish off with a hand tool rotating polisher head to apply the AutoSol as a polishing agent.
@wernerxldata Жыл бұрын
I always use WD40 + scotch brite for my mx bikes. Titanium headers will get awesome blue after cleaning them this way :)
@smoke05s Жыл бұрын
Use the metal polish with a steel wool applicator pad. That will cut right through the grime and leave you with a polished pipe you can see yourself in in one step with less chemicals. A little more elbow grease but less steps so I think it is a wash. In the states I use something called bluemagic, sold in autoparts stores. It stays clean / shiny too . . . until you ride in the rain! All subsequent cleanings are way easier than the first one.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Yes! This was more a test to see which product worked best on its own without having to use a lot of elbow grease. Useful for those areas you can't get into with a wire wool pad
@johnmfjw Жыл бұрын
I use an angle grinder with a polishing/buffing mop and a wax to get the worst off then finnish by hand.
@ivansparkov257911 ай бұрын
Can I use autosol with steelwool to clean pipe?
@TornadoCAN99 Жыл бұрын
I find a good method to clean exhaust pipes is by using a long strip of cloth (old T-shirt etc), wrapping once around the pipe, then "bow stringing" the cloth back and forth so it reaches a full 360 degrees around the pipe as you move along pipe. Not sure what those two black lines are being pointed at at the 11:00min mark. Metal? Rubber? Generally, WD-40 is a pretty good cleaner to take off muck and grime and leaves a light oil on surfaces, which can then be washed off with standard car wash or dish soap. For black plastics/hoses, to reduce effects of sun fading, oxidation, products like Mother's Back To Black are great. Kinda like boot polish really.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Yes! This video was more to test what cleaner works best on its own without too much input from the person doing it. Got a few recommendations from various websites and other videos to see what worked best! The bow stringing works really well after using some scotch brite type abrasive pad! Those pipes at 11mins are the coolant hoses. They are metal but covered with a black coating but known for corrosion annoyingly!
@douglasalexander43482 жыл бұрын
Mothers mag and power cone in a drill is another good one. Less effort and great shine with no acid worries but pricier.
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Good shout! It's always a slight concern when you go with cheap options which aren't meant for it
@7795Dakota2 жыл бұрын
Watched this to get a good idea of what would work to clean my 07 fz6 header the easiest. Last year I stared with 500grit sand paper and worked my way up to 2000 and it looked amazing but took 3 days for it to look right. If I did this I would probably take them off so I could have better access to tighter spots. Nice video man.
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
That's commitment! Haha! Fair play to you for making that effort! Thank you, it made such a difference
@JoshuaRoberts-kq9cs Жыл бұрын
Something i was taught many years ago.A fast operator is not always a good operator.Meaning sometimes you have to slow and steady approach to get the best results.
@sparkie92011 ай бұрын
I use autosol with a grey scotchbrite pad on the first pass and then autosol with a rag and then buff to a shine
@1100andFortyEight Жыл бұрын
I use 00 grade steel wool with WD40 to get rid of the initial grime, and then polish with Autosol or Peek metal polish.
@christopherschade345 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make a video! I appreciate the helpful information.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
No problem, thanks for watching
@michaelmclarney19943 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, another good upload and useful info. I have always used Autoglym resin polish and hi-gloss after on paint work with great results, autosol always used on Chrome or stainless. I can't remember what I used on my black fj1200 exhaust but will let you know when I remember. It was excellent but not a bike related product.
@SamVBikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Ahh good to know! I'm sure the Autoglym would have worked better with some more elbow grease, or even a machine. Love their products! Will be interested to hear!
@ryancormier35042 ай бұрын
In the US we have The Works 10x works pretty well
@mickvincent73573 жыл бұрын
Totally agree another great video made me smile.
@SamVBikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RyaNewGame3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very smart the idea of sectioning the exhaust and applying products on bits, enjoyed every shot of it (plus so much pun potential everywhere 😁). Was thinking you'd take off the pipes completely, and soak every hard to reach corner, but nevertheless, fantastic job at the end of the day there, a lot better than I imagined, mostly thought you'd take it off because I was afraid if the products get on the engine block or other bits of the engine, they might harm them, but I don't think it's the case anymore, like you said, a good clean after it's what it needs, great job and video 👍
@SamVBikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate! I contemplated taking the entire exhaust off but the bolts were looking pretty worse for wear so didn't want to risk taking them off without replacements!
@alekseiizossin78535 ай бұрын
I use AUTOSOL BLUING REMOVER. its not that cheap as harpic, but I was amazed.
@bobfisheruk3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, Good Video You did all the testing for us, I'm not sure i would use the Bleach on my NC as there's too much Aluminium around on it, Think after seeing your video I will use the AutoSol . Many Thanks.
@SamVBikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Definitely a good choice! I was so curious, especially spending the money over the years and never remember how the last product performed! Cheers
@johnmfjw Жыл бұрын
I use an angle grinder with a polishing/buffing mop with a wax to get the worst off then polish by hand First with a fine scotchbrite pads and Autosol/Peek metal polish finishing with a fine cotten rag.
@MartinWatts-pz5hx Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video pal , thanks for the tips 👍
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
@tooyoungtobeold8756 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you. I used 'Dr Downpipe', yesterday. The results were quite amazing. It comes with a spray attachment and nylon pan scouring pads. My 'before' was way worse than yours.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Amazing! I've heard mixed reviews but the negative thoughts were on pipes which weren't incredibly bad! Will have to give it a shot. It wasn't around when I did this video as far as I'm aware
@stevencheeseman7836 Жыл бұрын
Use Harpic 10x regularly, works a treat
@ezekielgskeen8607 Жыл бұрын
the rubber pipes are done, if you left the for the salt to get too them, but! you could put AF50 OR Mucoff waterproof spray over or WD40 As for your video, am ordering some of what you said right now!b thanks a mill for the heads up sir!
@ginoasci6 ай бұрын
Use a scouring pad with the autosol and it’ll shine those pipes like mirrors. Try it.
@richardt.95310 ай бұрын
Any recommendation on which product to use on those Black Colored Headers?
@andrewhayes4246 Жыл бұрын
Best cleaner? Elbow grease. I've used it for 50+ years, never failed. 😉😁
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Haha! Yes nothing wrong with a bit of EG!
@Owl_Biker_ Жыл бұрын
On a sport bike, without taking the lower fairings… would the harpic or autosol damage the plastics ?
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
I doubt Autosol would because its meant to be a safe formula, but I would avoid getting harpic on anything you don't want to. Be careful and cover things with plastic and you'll be okay
@Owl_Biker_ Жыл бұрын
@@SamVBikes perfect! Thank you!
@barrycarleton43262 жыл бұрын
so Solvol Autosol is the best one? problem is that it used to be cheap until the retailers saw how it was selling and they tripled the price.
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Thats always the issue isnt it! Same thing happened with the Yamaha T7... released at 7.5k until they saw how popular it was!
@feathersandtarmac64562 жыл бұрын
Good video mate
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Team-fabulous Жыл бұрын
Harpic then Solvo then spray the headers with a high temperature silicone spray which will protect them. Job done
@cryptfiend Жыл бұрын
i used to use Autosol like everyone else, but Purple Metal Polish by California Custom is the only metal polish Ive seen that will remove blue heat coloration from header pipes.
@JayJayBrinxx3 жыл бұрын
great video, i needed this ! same bike too !!!!
@SamVBikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Those pipes just get so filthy!
@andyrawlings5369 Жыл бұрын
yeah sam when i saw your products i knew the toilet cleaner was a winner not used it myself but my pal did on his vfr 750 they came up like new did same as you afterwards used autosol myself keep on top of my bikes like to have them nice and clean wifes plays helll with me !!
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
I almost didn't believe it when someone told me it works wonders! Not perfect but does a bloody good job to get the base level off, then like you say, autosol to polish up!
@andyrawlings5369 Жыл бұрын
@@SamVBikes Hi sam stripped down my early vfr 750 today to do major service did sevice then set about a deep clean on exhaust system which has been changed for a stainless system soaked it in harpic clean same as yours in the clip did it 3 times cleaned it off . Then went over with scotch bright pads a good few times then uesd autosol took a good hour and half now the exhaust system is like a new system plenty of elbow grease more effort you put in the better the shine a winner.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Good effort mate! That kind of work is something that will put a smile on your face every time you walk up to the bike!
@simonrenshall8 ай бұрын
what part of harpic 10x is not to be used on stainless steel do ppl not understand?
@CompletelyBaked3 жыл бұрын
They came up nice!
@bikefever35692 жыл бұрын
Top job 👏
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼🙌🏼
@lincolnbroke2 жыл бұрын
Good job mate
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jakubmarek6304 Жыл бұрын
try a sandpaper like 2200+ and finish it with 3500 + with water of course, and after try to polish it. Imo it's the best option
@harleyminks81947 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you so much. I'm sold on the Autosol. Got my first bike earlier in the week and I've been obsessed with scrubbing it when I'm not riding. So using elbow grease for the best shine sounds perfect for me. Also just $8 online right now.
@SamVBikes7 ай бұрын
Congrats on the new bike and welcome to a world of obsession haha!
@BoomerTech6 ай бұрын
For your hard water pipes.... ACF50, rub it off, a squeeze of lemon (not kidding) leave for few mins, then go over with a regular cleaner.
@budgetlife49983 жыл бұрын
Yh harpic its my top thing ✌️
@garryrooney9636 Жыл бұрын
Any negative thoughts on wrapping the exhaust afterwards in an effort to keep heat away from engine? I have a VFR800 and they can run hot with the radiators on the sides of the bike.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
There are mixed opinions on wraps, I did it on my custom CG125 and had no issues but some people say it causes the engine to run hotter as the heat can't escape through the pipes. Maybe a better quality coolant would help
@jackisonline2 Жыл бұрын
Ive used exhaust wrap in the past with good results, however if you ride on salted roads it has a habit of soaking into the wrap and turning them into alka seltzer 😁
@hornet25o Жыл бұрын
I use steel wool and harpic plus
@Chris-ye6wc Жыл бұрын
nice video ,will try mine too, thanks man.👌🤘
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
No prob! 🙌🏼
@ahmedatm2 жыл бұрын
great job thanks man
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@callmeanythingbutlatefordinner11 күн бұрын
The best polish I've found is a 50/50 mix with ordinary laundry bleach and a good whitening tooth-polish!! 😳🤔🤫 Rub it in well with a green Scotch pad, let it dry, buff it out, rinse with alcohol or any oil free solvent. You're welcome.
@puffx93469 ай бұрын
is it even worth it to clean the header? how long would they last clean like a week? idk im asking
@SamVBikes9 ай бұрын
Sometimes they are the one thing that let's the bike down when it's clean. Only need to do it once a year probably. They get rusty so it won't happen quickly but worth doing every now and then
@RHP98989 ай бұрын
Mate I was using autosol on my exhausts in 1980... and I'm sure others will have used it before me! It's still the best but you have to be careful because it's abrasive.
@SamVBikes9 ай бұрын
Yes! Use that for the final 10% shine with some pads!
@Motourev Жыл бұрын
Love my Harpic 😂
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Haha! You are my inspiration for that!!
@Motourev Жыл бұрын
@@SamVBikes 😂😂 I love it, started having it in my cornflakes
@GadgetRebel Жыл бұрын
Good video thanks for help 🙂
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
No prob!
@bryonyclark96777 ай бұрын
Do you wash autosol off 😅
@SamVBikes7 ай бұрын
Yes I do! Wash the bike after
@bryonyclark96777 ай бұрын
@@SamVBikes okay I’m gonna give it a go. Thanks for the vid wish me luck💪🏾😂
@sweet-triple-UK Жыл бұрын
Nice video mate. Think I'm going to get myself some AutoSol and one you didn't try that I've heard a lot of good things about "DrDownpipe". I might also make a video about it and I'll reference yours too if that's ok?
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@Tcoldsteel9 ай бұрын
Top tip thanks 🙏
@mrchin7562 Жыл бұрын
I've found Autosol works best if you rub it on the surface with bare hands. I guess I should polish my pipes as well. It's about time. haha
@golders993 жыл бұрын
Good video sir
@SamVBikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@N269 Жыл бұрын
Ideally, remove the pipes and get them ceramic coated.... then you'll never have to polish them... but at a price. Harpic is great on SS, but useless on mild steel header clamps. Excellent production. Thank you.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Great idea! Thank you!
@Mathiascsc2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam! The pipes you are asking how to clean up. Honestly, mask off the bike then scuff up the pipes and paint them. I dont think there is any coming back from that. I just scuffed mine up and painted them with heat resistant paint. Until now it has worked out great
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
I ended up doing that exact thing in the end! After a few months of messing around trying to clean them, I just found that to be the best solution. They came up great too
@jeannoelsandrazie1874 Жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a make? Tried one on my bike exhaust manifold. Was coming off after only one ride. 😕
@Mathiascsc Жыл бұрын
@@jeannoelsandrazie1874 those pipes doesnt get nearly as hot as the exhaust pipe. I myself used Plastikote High Heat
@jeannoelsandrazie1874 Жыл бұрын
@@Mathiascsc thank you.
@Rastei2 жыл бұрын
Use steel wool Nº000 and it will be easier and better with that kind of rusty metals.
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. The only reason I didn't was because I'd seen the odd report of people leaving scratch marks on their headers. I assume from them using too course wool, but thought I'd not risk it
@TornadoCAN99 Жыл бұрын
BlueJob (careful how you google for that ;-) ) is meant for removing header bluing from excess lean running....when chrome or stainless gets too hot, it blues. BJ is not sold as a general cleaner. You pipes seem mainly coated in baked on muck., so a different kind of issue really.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Definitely! I saw it listed on a few websites as an effective way of cleaning headers.. so wanted to give it a try to see if it did anything!
@THX..11382 жыл бұрын
Masking tape actually goes bad. The roll you showed has gone bad. It may have been sitting on the shelf for long time before you bought it. Also once you take the plastic wrapper off them they start going down hill pretty fast.
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Good to know! It was bought relatively recently so could have been sitting on the shelf too long like you say
@davidsmith9535 Жыл бұрын
A cloth won’t work. Fine steel wool with autosol or very fine wet and dry
@sjv6598 Жыл бұрын
Don’t use the harpic on any chrome plated pipes or they won’t be chrome plated anymore 🤗 I use it on my stainless steel headers and it takes minutes to get them clean.
@davidbaird6996 Жыл бұрын
Harpic 100 bleach is class brings them up easy
@Yii00T Жыл бұрын
Use a drill and wee applicators if needed.
@timlangley8926 Жыл бұрын
dont get harpic anywhere near the o2 sensor
@mabsbry13182 жыл бұрын
….just put wd on it from time to time. Best not to let a bike get too dry, and a bit of wd helps crud come away at cleaning. Simples. Ps avoid brakes and footpeg rubber if using wd….
@simonbirt6121 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean downpipes, or are you American?
@dannysmith14522 жыл бұрын
Bought a brand called drdownpipe exhaust cleaner from halfords. Good stuff. Would never put harpic bog cleaner near my 25k ducati. Horrible stuff
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Not used it, will give it a go. Haha yeah this was more a test to see if it would work. I probably wouldn't use it on my Super Adventure
@MARCON-mf8pw Жыл бұрын
Harpic works a treat, as long as your intelligent it works the best
@str8jktblahblahblah843 ай бұрын
Baking soda mixed with water will naturalize the acid
@witnesspropro Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't recommend using hydrochloric acid on header pipes.
@gregord.54437 ай бұрын
Just use autosol with 00 steel wool. Trust me you wont scratch stainless steel and rust comes off in seconds
@R0bstez2 жыл бұрын
Better begin with a scotch brite pad and wd40. Polish it up with autoglym after and it's brand new. In my opinion your starting too soft. It takes ages then
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I tend to do the scotch brite pads when I've done it in the past. This vid was more to test what product does the most work itself, and takes out the most labour of scrubbing yourself
@MillfieldWheels2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Plus using chrome cleaners on polished steel won't work. That's why it's called chrome polish.
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. The Blue job chrome polish was listed as one of the best exhaust cleaners on a number of websites, and not just on chrome exhausts, so wanted to give it a go regardless
@MSCSphoto Жыл бұрын
Autosol and 0000 steel wool will make them shine . Less work than the micro fiber cloth .
@BIGGGESTAL2 жыл бұрын
Doctor Downpipe works for me
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Not tried that! But will give it a go!
@Yii00T Жыл бұрын
Old masking tape goes like that if it's sat about a while.
@Motourev Жыл бұрын
The way I see it is if Harpic can eat your exhaust away surely serial killers would be buying it by the pallet to dissolve bodies 😂
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Maybe they are but we don't know it 😂😂
@Motourev Жыл бұрын
@@SamVBikes 😂😂 wondered why I keep finding shoes with a bog brush next to them and no body
@jwbonnett Жыл бұрын
You're using a polish to clean, you're supposed to clean then polish... Also Harpic actually rusts your pipes.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
These are products which have many use cases where people have used them specifically to clean pipes which is why I tried them. 2 years after I did this.. the pipes were still not rusty
@OGillo20014 ай бұрын
BATMAN
@Highspeed2322 Жыл бұрын
poor guy
@ccombs22002 жыл бұрын
Fuck sakes scotch brite and time brother
@SamVBikes2 жыл бұрын
Work smarter not harder haha. If there's an easier way than spending hours slaving away I'm all for it
@1975supermike Жыл бұрын
Harpic will damage Crome forever.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
This isn't chrome, it's a header/downpipe which are steel.
@arcboutant Жыл бұрын
What’s up with exhaust ‘headers’ , that Americanism ‘headers’ are the exhausts pipes on bikes surely. Exhaust , silencer. American , headers, mufflers.
@SamVBikes Жыл бұрын
Haha! Everyone I speak to locally normally refers to them as headers, not sure why... not calling it a muffler though haha! I guess thinking about it now, putting headers in the title might help push it with Americans understanding what I'm cleaning
@loftyintentions1985 Жыл бұрын
Headers, link pipe(s), slip-on.
@arcboutant Жыл бұрын
I like ‘mufflers though. A silencer 🤔 doesn’t really do that.