“Come PLAY With Our V*GINAS, Gay Boys” : It’s The Homophobia For Me

[@GuranPurin]

"Non-binary man, trans-masc lesbian" These words are absolutely meaningless

[@saiteixx]

whta im saying, if ur nb it means u dont feel like u fit in any gender norms and trans-masc les just doesnt make any sense.

[@grammas.sausages]

trans masc lesbian makes sense to me, but I wouldn't fight anyone over it. The logic is as follows: 1. I'm An AFAB [female] who likes AFABs [females] and I took testosterone, which is quite literally "trans masculine." I'm a female who is perceived as male. I don't "identify as" anything. I'm just using a word that people understand as "oh that creature was born with a vagina and injects themselves with 'roids to put on some muscle mass and got a beard and deep voice as a result." 2. I'm a lesbian because I'm quite literally a female who likes other females. That seems quite logical to me.

[@slarbiter]

I blame tiktok for creating categories of people. It's like they need a big label for any personality or aesthetic to classify themselves as. Like nobody ever called themselves "alt" until tiktok, doesn't even make sense

[@grammas.sausages]

@@slarbiter Our brains do categorize people naturally, usually based on aesthetics and acoustics. Labels existed before TikTok for sure. I think what TikTok did is put high school on the internet in a more globally connected way than other platforms. Literally a high school with all the teenagers (and for some reason older than teens) in the world.

[@oscargruber8582]

It doesn't even make sense. It cancels each other out, right? If you are Non-Binary you are not a man and vice versa, and if you are Trans-masc you cannot be a lesbian. This is just getting confusing

[@marcusdib]

"They're using "masculine" as a reason to not shower" STOP hahaha

[@thenobody4793]

I can, as someone who used to have a friend like this. They do, I have never met anyone that smelled as bad as that person did!!!

[@SL-mj2eq]

Ahum a man showers atleast 1s a month :-p

[@ginger5872]

My god daughter when she's " lesbian" , "trans", or whatever she calls herself at the moment has a " girlfriend" or " boyfriend", thats actually a girl in drag, she doesn't bathe , use deodorant, wear clean clothes, or shave her pits. But when she claims she's with an ACTUAL man, she bathes, wears clean clothes, puts on make up and ect.

[@jenniferbrdar4605]

I'm a butch lesbian and I bathe twice a day. My morning bath is to get clean, my evening bath is for relaxation and to drink a beer or a mixed drink, plus get caught up on reading livestock magazines and the online sheep auctions for show sheep. The idea of bathing once a month is gross.

[@YochevedDesigns]

@@jenniferbrdar4605 Where have you been all my life???

[@tungstenanderson5991]

Trans activists need to stop sexually harassing EVERYONE.

[@LloydChristmas-vx2wh]

💯

[@NeapolitanDynamite1]

“they/them” is mostly for normies who need a place to “fit in”. its disgusting watching straight autistic people apprehend LGBT. yes. LGBT. lesbian gay bisexual trans. thats it baby. being “queer” or a “weirdo” doesnt mean anything. :)

[@gretchengrant9573]

AMEN!!

[@DJdext]

Seriously! I do not give consent!!! 😂

[@karaalsup23]

100% and they need to stay the hell away from children!

[@cookiedoe6068]

They are destroying everything the gay rights movement gave them. Went from “You can’t change who you’re attracted to” to “You MUST change your attraction preference to include ME!” And I’m over here screaming “That’s not how this works! That’s not how any of this works!” FFS

[@drek9k2]

You know what I'm worried about I only thought of lately it gives some ultra creepy, ultra predatory people a rather wide birth to pretty much make people disappear. And to try and hide behind their normalization of absolutely f'ing everything even clearly creepy shit no matter how weird or mentally ill or pathological, to the point where this scene just keeps getting stuck in my head of this movie where Dahmer has this poor guy who's been drugged out and is unconscious and two cops literally see him dragging him back. And the cops just make some joke about gay lovers and are on their way and Dahmer drags this clearly unconscious man upstairs. Like, fuck what video was that, I was seeing some video about the ultra rich and some weird degenerate sex party this guy, oh it was the British bouncer video. And he was talking about how this young boy was looking scared or really drugged out or something and basically people who showed concern were booted out for harshing the vibe. Like nobody talks about this but it opens us up to some really predatory behaviour and you know as much I don't necessarily like the police there is a very clear, very obviously delineated societal line to where they are necessary and thanked, and that is in crimes of rape, murder, mass murder, terrorism, serial killing, child abuse. And you know, some very creepy, very obviously fucked up people like Jeff Marsh keep trying to use the community as cover, and you know it's got men like fucking Kevin Spacey, and the notorious Hollywood "spacey stories" to where it's pretty much *entirely* about power. And you know looking back on it. Yeah. I think that is why some fucking men enjoy doing things like rubbing a person's shoulders. They get off on breaching those boundaries. There's some young guys that don't get a girl isn't enjoying it, that's *not* the way to do things, you know it's unwelcome and comes across as a bit creepy but the guy just keeps doing it, and the girl is cringing on one hand as a younger guy you're all "well wHy DiDnT yOu SaY sOmEtHiNg" but on other it's like, she backing off, she is cringing clearly this girl isn't comfortable with that. And it finally dawned on me after this guy did it with me, I don't think they think oh you're into it. I actually think they know that you are cringing, they can literally feel you tensing up, and I came to believe some people get off on this sense of having power, off a power dynamic they feel. I still think women can be really fucking creepy too and that women child sexual abusers are probably underreported and get poo pooed way too much, at the same time the issue is when men do it they go so over the fucking line it's not funny. So I'm not saying this isn't a problem with lesbians don't misinterpret me. It is absolutely true there too, I'm just saying this from my own perspective. To me I think that a big part of gay rights is actually not being sweeped under the rug. I do think that as drug users you do usually want to sort of evade law enforcement attention or any other attention but you know at the same time it's basically just because not only is being frowned upon it's literally penalized so of course you hide it. And so a big part of the consequence to this has been that we've probably had preventable death overdoses spike because people are pretty much too scared of the cops but moreover even without the charges part you're going to be too afraid to go to jail and be having to detox in there, it's one of the big reasons people flee and why people try and evade warrants, it's just because they don't do shit for you in jail and are basically willing to just sit there and watch you die in a heap of vomit as the CO just calmly sees an inmate shits himself as he expires. So nobody wants to go to jail because somebody who's hooked knows he's either gonna owe "a favour" to just keep the shit off for another day (idk why tf COs do this anyway, dope fiend larceny is a big reason for fights in prison, it's a big reason for check ins unless...oh unless the CO is making money off smuggling the drugs in too) or he's going through forced cold turkey withdrawals, I can not imagine a more PTSD inducing scenario than that short of like violent rape and going to war. That's one of those things you just respect a person more finding out them having done it. But meanwhile no one gets help because no one expects to receive it, like even turning in a wallet gets you treated like youre the one that stole it. You feel like trying to get help just gets you and your friends in trouble. It's a sad scene, and a lot of stuff gets swept under the rug. So I feel like today it's becoming increasingly a thing to where no one even is going to want to help, people are going to wind up more and more victimized by increasingly sick, pervy people who are managing to redefine everything to vague sociopathic narcissistic nihilistic bullcrap to the point nothing means anything so utterly self serving amoral shitheads can do whatever they want with no repercussions. And of course this clearly serves more the people that have the power (that I, again, find it funny is bougie rich white American people maneovering their way to the top of the oppression totem pole again, and I will never stop making fun of fat activists for saying shit like "fatphobia is rooted in racism", never) and is going to enable and be used by people like Kevin Spacey trying to hide behind the community by blurting out shit like "I-I'm gay" So should Harvey Weinstein have stood there with some cocktail shrimp and said "I-I'm heterosexual." Because that is also how some of them are trying to do it like "I-I'm trans" "I-I'm nonbinary" idgaf what you are if the behaviour is creepy and abusive it needs to stop. And certain people have been getting things to the point where I truly think it'll just go full circle to where basically things can get really dangerous and unsafe you don't know who these people are the cops won't help you nobody's going to intervene you can wind up chopped up in trashbags and people are just like "well I wasn't sure what pronouns he she they ze used so I'm going to stay out of it." I'm not necessarily saying this is going to happen just that it's been a slowly building paranoia of mine exactly where things are going to go full circle at this point.

[@vir9002]

Gay rights and Womens rights. both being ripped apart with all the crazy stuff.

[@teamtundra2619]

@@vir9002no

[@teamtundra2619]

No

[@vplants9810]

They are also destroying women's movement.

[@loveitorleaveit9673]

A non- binary man? Wait..WHAT? Isn't NB neither sex? I mean gender, I mean, oh wtf!!??

[@irradiated_woman8016]

Get this... There are people who claim to be "NB lesbians..." and sometimes theyre males lol.

[@comentaristametaforico9287]

Words have no meaning anymore 🤦‍♂️

[@irradiated_woman8016]

Oh! Oh! I just remembered something I saw this week. I was on one of the les subreddits and there was a nice "how did you meet your wife?" thread. One of the replies was this person who described being a "NB afab" who found and eventually married "one of the few other NB afab people on grindr!" That was a weird one. At least some of them find each other and leave the rest of us alone?

[@stefanig4834]

It’s just imagination 😅

[@MariahYanez]

😭🤣

[@gregajohnson1985]

the LGB community getting kicked out of our own movement. sounds about right.

[@JamesL413]

I miss the days when it was just LGB. The movement was much more cohesive then. This current identity mess is undoing the progress that has been made.

[@brandonhelcher3691]

Let it happen. The sane lgbs won't need to be lumped in with the tq+.

[@Sienna6164]

Y’all need a divorce from the TQ+2S123s and ABCs. God speed to the LGBs who are being persecuted by this group. God bless and love from California.

[@Sienna6164]

@BeerCanBennytheIV Why is this so poetic?

[@torturetools9104]

I hate that you people put T and Q together, trans people are minding their own business, it's the Qs doing this crap. No normal trans person is like this, I'm actually so tired of this LGB vs T sht. These people don't represent me, and I keep getting associated with them, can't even have a normal interaction, even with half of non-straights.

[@bobkaiser8782]

"50lbs & nose ring" Savage

[@loveitorleaveit9673]

But true!!

[@parakeetfloor3185]

I'd put it as more like 100 lbs :)

[@augusto7681]

The one with nose ring is the queer ?

[@jdog7797]

Good joke.

[@poogissploogis]

I'd expect nothing less from the actual gay community 😌💅

[@livetechsupport909]

"What's the difference between gay and queer? 50lbs and a nose ring." Sorry, that NEEDS to go viral. It's so spot on!

[@mikewaterfield3599]

A man can be gay, a male who acts like a woman is “queer” regardless of what they are into.

[@Niffie]

So essentially "Non-bInary" means you're absolutely incapable of logical thinking. Gotchu.

[@dantesc2520]

When you display your pronouns bio/ preference your also incapable of logical thinking.

[@zerotodona1495]

It does mean that. There’s only male and female and you can’t change sex/gender. Life is binary for humans.

[@emanymton713]

Well the world outside of plants and microorganisms is entirely binary so, yes non binary doesn’t just mean incapable of logical thinking. It means incapable of thought all together.

[@AmazingRebel23]

If anyone wants to be a man he needs to let go of the “nonbinary” thing. They think they can hold 2 genders at the same time. It doesn’t make sense at all and being groomed into thinking that was how reality worked at 13 made a mess I have had to spend all my time cleaning up once I decided to date women. They don’t want “men” with these beliefs, hell not even I do and I’m into trans guys!

[@RedundantHuman-CandyBites]

Ahaha 🤣🐕/🐈

[@Firedrake1313]

Face it, at this point they're just making shit up.

[@MTx485]

They’ve been doing that for a hot minute 😂

[@biljam972]

Problem is that you can't force yourself on person who is attracted to men by saying "I am a man" while looking like woman and having a vagina. Everyone has the right to their own preferences. It's not hate, you can't chose who you are attracted to.

[@oliverhug3]

Sexual orientations are not preferences. Choosing Skechers over Nike is a preference. A homosexual man does not choose men over women.

[@mikebott6940]

I do wonder how they would act if they were confronted by someone who treated them in the same way.

[@dinosaurwoman]

They are choosing who they're attractive to for attention, though. They expect everyone else to do the same.

[@milascave2]

I have never met anybody, gay, straight, lesbian, bi, trans, nimby or asexual who does not believe that. And yes, I have met lots of people in all those categories, everybody has the right to like what they like. But the idea that there is some huge wave of transfolk and nimbys who are trying to shame other people into having sex with them by accusing them of being an ism is way false, in my experience. Sure, in the vast wasteland that is the internet, I am sure you could find. Somebody who thinks that way. But it is not the norm.

[@nineteeneightynine432]

​@@oliverhug3 thank you I was going to say this but you beat me to it. Your sexualiity isnt a preference you don't choose it. I've told people a preference is like say blondes over redheads that's something you can change you can change what gender you're attracted to..

[@TheNuclearGeek]

All this insanity only brings me 1 piece of joy - it's bringing gay, lesbian, and bisexual people closer to straight people through our shared experience of being hated by the "queer" community. The REAL distinction is between those of us whose sexuality is PART of our identity and those that make it their ENTIRE identity. I honestly thought we had finally got passed all this years ago until people seemingly needed to invent a new way to divide us and it's really depressing that we seem to be regressing as a society.

[@drek9k2]

I mean, idk. I honestly like to just forget about it and not feel different. Having to be sober and at once learn to accept that again has been kinda hard for me. Like you end up gaslighting yourself over it too and it just feels like being a freshman again. But to have then all this stupid shit around me all the damn time and btw holy fuck, just Jesus can these people truly be that self absorbed they are that into themselves they legitimately don't get how utterly divorced from the real world they all are? Like. It's just funny to me with the "fatphobia is rooted in racism" type comments from so many angles but one of these is also that kind of people to make these arguments are to such a height of privilege and insularity they legitimately have no fucking clue how it appears to anyone else, least of all the rest of the queer community, and sure as hell not people from other countries. Don't these colleges have international students???? I mean how in the FUCK do these people sit here doing this, and f'ing lecturing people about pronouns, with people from other countries like someone from Pakistan or India and it is like what the fuck are these people even on about. They're the center of their own universe. But to then have the internet age and now I have this freakshow trying to define me, trying to define all of queer politics, good God how I hate that new rainbow flag. And it's being thrust into everybody's face. As a result of this, do you know how g-damn difficult it is to hide your body language every day by the way? It is not something that is easy to do. And people are going to talk. And part of how people are going to talk shit about you will end up being you just hold your arm the wrong damn way people are going to act like imma lecture them about my pronouns and fetishes and try bringing a dildo to show their first grader. But like I said in that textwall above it's partly being done by shrimpy males and fat stumpy women that refuse to just hit the gym and rather than work out and get healthy would rather "spiral" this word tiktokers seem to love using, into being more deranged and, in my opinion, probably more high on some pill or other. It's being done by people that likely don't necessarily feel remarkable at all, who don't necessarily receive much attention from either gender so this is the way they compensate, that again would be less of a problem for everyone including themselves if they put that energy to doing what a good number of gay men do and just go to the gym. But it's like that same toxic morass, this Christmas light jumbled ball of bullshit they tell themselves like the Tess in Victoria's Secret "healthy at any size" "big is beautiful" shit. I don't want to make people feel bad abot themselves or ugly but it's like, is this the best you can do. Is this the best you can do for your partner, you supposedly cherish and adore. This is you keeping your partner happy. This is you being a rolemodel for your future children. But it's the same sludge as with feminism, which is why they'd rather expend the energy trying to find a way to be the biggest professional victim. I think the colleges definitely went in too far a deranged direction too in that more or less they also push this "CISHET WHITE BAD, CHRISTIAN BAD" blah blah muh privilege thing, this is true, and I recognize those various facets of my own privilege, this is very different than what they all are doing, between recognizing it and doing good in the world, and trying to bully people over it, or become less privileged, or try and define people by it or, ironically, in trying to avoid downplay or feel guilty about it becoming super entitled, which is literally what the bad part of privilege is. And there is also that Ted Kazcyski sense of some liberals just hate winners, are envious and despise winners and don't want to accept there are losers and there are people that are just not as good at some things, and that's the whole progressivist identity in a nutshell, entitlement mixed with willful blindness, it's why you get people doing insane things like first insisting there is no such thing as male biological advantages due to feminism and then, in a feat of utmost hilarity, due to turbo feminism opening the door to all women's sports getting dominated utterly by biological males, because "durr hurr male athletes only succeed because they get more funding." This brings me a great amount of joy watching the retardation of feminism crumble and destroy itself ngl. And it is mostly these people who clearly can not run any society, least of which their own, and have proven to me they can not build anything, can not create any society, can only infect and subvert and destroy other societies, it's just the queer community and feminism they latched onto first. But these people are getting out of college and going into diverse fields and that is why you're having stupid shit like the California pharmacies having those dumb training things about pronouns, why every workplace is toxic (they're not smart people, I went to school with people like this, contrary to their midwit self estimations most of these people are not terribly intelligent, they are just barely cunning enough to be manipulative but they're not even that good at that, they're like Steven Assanti tier, they think the use of sophistries and logical fallacies makes to win a pointless argument at any cost makes them smart rather than proof they are halfwits) because a toxic workplace can never unionize, it makes all employees replaceable without anyone to back them up, it makes the entire citizenry too divided and distracted, too exhausted and stupid to put up any kind of a fight to resist the elites. They are too stupid to understand they are Capitalist stooges. At the same time, there's only so much division before it goes from divide and rule to straight up disintegration. Either way, in the interrim there's a certain guilt by association I don't want to put up with, it's just funny how they manage to be so samey while being so utterly self contradictory at the same time as being so willing to nod their heads yes along with the crowd. No matter how retarded or self defeating the concept at any one time. And the thing is, it is not uniting any of us. We simply quietely agree. Big difference. I absolutely feel like not only I am more likely to get shit from straight people, but in general these people do not realize, do not have any idea the harm they have caused to gay people all over the world. This is because they are in their own solipsistic bubbles, and wouldnt surprise me they are truly too smug and arrogant and self centered to notice or care that globally it's caused tremendous pushback and this really is only in the States and a few other countries. Because the whole world sees our shitty media including tiktoks, and how in tf are you supposed to tell your conservative leaning parents in Istanbul what you are when they clearly can see on the American TV some child twerking, then when asked about well the American media you go on tiktko and see all this. I, personally, would want to shield my children from ever being exposed to this. And when you have these people effectively representing "the community" to the whole world, the world isn't going to see any difference between you, me, Arielle, Brad, them, it's the same people so far as everyone else is concerned.

[@AmaryInkawult]

Because the original goal of the movement was lost to the newer generations. Not experiencing what the leads had definitely was a factor in this so the need to invent new problems to solve to remain relevant becomes the new norm.

[@TheNuclearGeek]

@@AmaryInkawult I couldn't agree more and it's true for so many of their "issues". These younger generations have no experience with TRUE inequality, "isms", and "phobias". When you're old enough to remember watching the KKK march and chant down the street and had to wrestle with allowing their freedom of speech, we all had to feel that and we all understood better and it led to us all understanding one another better. So, we came out of it with freedom of speech AND legal equal AND the collapse of the KKK. Now they are literally inventing inequalities just to have something to be mad about but it all looks as shallow and vapid to those of us that had to struggle with the real ones.

[@AmaryInkawult]

@@TheNuclearGeek there is also the paranoia being bred among this specific crowd. Like it cannot be healthy to tell everyone young and old that the world is out to get you.

[@orirune3079]

"A man can be caring and a man can be protective" has that person never read anything from prior to like 2020? That's like, one of the biggest pillars of traditional masculinity. An ideal man _was_ caring and protective. It reminds me of a passage from Tolkien where they say _the hands of a king are the hands of a healer_ in reference to Aragorn (who is literally set up to be this kingly masculine paragon). He's primarily a protector, healer, and leader.

[@misskat7567]

It's like they're going so backward that they end up going back to what is considered traditional. Imagine that you want to be so different and so out of the box that you put yourself back in another box.

[@emsmiu]

​@@misskat7567 THIS, it's insane

[@Ryan-cb1ei]

@@misskat7567 Isn’t that the exact thing people have studied and uncovered? It’s like that one researcher who wondered why all hippies (I forgot the word he used) all end up looking the same, the Pacific Northwest kind of guy with a beard, flannel, a bit nerdy, maybe some tats or piercings. You might have heard the story, but the researcher put a picture of a guy in it and someone tried to sue him for using his picture, but it wasn’t actually him, just another alternative guy who looks the same 😂 All these people trying to be different all end up falling back into the same boxes

[@mollygrace3068]

YES! Positive masculinity!

[@Ψυχήμίασμα]

She's only read Judith Butler. And probably the cliff notes version via social media.

[@Rawkus105]

Good to see that the LBG's are getting tired of the T's as well.

[@wintersong2266]

Just the conservatives ones, conservatives gays have always been against trans even during Stonewall.

[@Daniela-tf6it]

A non binary man? Perfect example of an oxymoron

[@rickrollrizal]

Try the transmasc nonbinary femme named Cody hahaha

[@realteamwall]

i think non-binary means any made up gender so if you could be non-binary you could be a non-binary man

[@aeromedical6776]

They just make it up as they go along. Their whole narrative is to be so confusing that the average person can’t possibly understand how they actually want to be represented. This allows them to find some kind of offending behavior to be able to confront you over.

[@sianais]

And a moron 🤭

[@nicj5354]

Oxy not needed, just a moron

[@paulineb66]

It’s so refreshing to just see an old school gay man and a lesbian having fun. Brings back memories.

[@anthonygregory6797]

As a straight man I can agree, born in 90 and remember moments like this in the early 2000s fondly. Back when people just wanted to be people and it was peaceful all around, now a days it's so radicalized by such a small minority and it ruins the look of the community who is super chill.

[@paolom.4646]

They're a breath of fresh air...

[@Hawksbane77]

Honestly, i feel sorry for the ones that are truly dealing with gender dysphoria vs. The ones just jumping on the bandwagon.

[@KaiyoMar]

Thank you so much for this comment. I agree. Gender dysphoria is no joke.

[@sarahg2653]

Me too. And I'll never understand how one can be trans without being gender dysphoric.

[@RandoGrunt]

From my personal experience, it's a living hell where you're torn in two different directions and have no idea who or what you even are. A war in your own head tearing you mentally apart, with some days being better than others. These bandwagoners are just a buncha f3tish lusting phonies.

[@rah7868]

Wonder what that % really is? Really looks like the bandwagoners are a significantly higher percentage.

[@ijansk]

Cancer is more serious than gender dysphoria. I feel many people over dramatise gender dysphoria which is treatable with psychological therapy because it is about self-perception through sex roles. Cancer is more aggressive and destroys your body.

[@CurlyBoyChuck]

This collab was everything. Love you both & Loved the commentary. The gender mafia ppl are craaaaazy

[@dhlong1697]

"nonbinary manhood" is a contradiction.

[@dariuszwalaszczyk3205]

Pure oxymoron.

[@Cardinal_claw]

Its like the nb trans. A nothing burger

[@chrisjackson8151]

@@dariuszwalaszczyk3205oh it’s certainly moronic alright.

[@alexthegreat1395]

Claim that you are neither or both genders, but you turn around and choose to identify as a man at the same time. That makes 0 sense. A talking dog cannot claim to be not an animal, but turns around and want to identify as an animal of it choice. Example: a non speciest elephant

[@Bl4ckVeilPrinc3ss]

Due to these chronically online idiots I'm now scared to dye my hair pink and get a piercing because I could be mistaken as part of them, it's so annoying

[@drek9k2]

I know this feeling, just don't get a septum piercing. It's The Uniform. I don't know why, but it's really ironic the ring used for leading livestock by the nose to their own slaughter is adopted by these people. Probably going to have short hair, the glasses, like there's a certain Look, usually a wild crazy eye hostility mixed with this smug self satisfied smirk. The smug smirk is like the key way to tell ah one of those.

[@Bl4ckVeilPrinc3ss]

Oh hell yeah, fortunately I don't like septums, I'd rather a simple and small eyebrow piercing, but I still find kinda shameful how these chronically online idiots appropriated of dyed hair that were once a punk thing

[@lucialovecraft]

I had a large septum ring for years but took it out. I also have pink hair, I want to keep away from the community as much as possible

[@CelynAnimation]

Oh I already have, I already have a nose ring and dyed my hair black. It's mainly about your personality then over your looks

[@randybobandy4000]

These people don't own piercings and dyed hair, they literally appropriated it from punk culture.

[@megannell5862]

They want to live in the past as well as in the future. Want to have gender norms and at the same time they want to live without gender norms ..

[@jasonholt1853]

Authority of a man privilege of a protected woman accountability of a toddler

[@justinchetney3902]

It's Schroedinger's gender

[@Zarreth]

The whole concept of NB is unraveling itself with the surge in people saying "NB guy/girl" or "NB lesbian/gay". They know it's making no sense at all but they either lean further into it or keep trying to make more excuses about how it's a thing. It never holds up to any questioning when it itself is the only true "social construct" they ever say is one. I always thought gender was just a word to replace sex on a form and it was for transsexuals, that or made as a synonym to stop the "Sex: Yes Please" jokes from immature people.

[@doeeyes2]

The kermit the frog voice after two packs of Marlboros is ALWAYS a dead give away.

[@zora8263]

you described that PERFECTLY lmaoooooo

[@coraliepython1291]

Underrated comment

[@bellesblues]

As well as everything else!

[@Wallflowerzizme]

IM CACKLING BYEEEE

[@randidennis7790]

Amazing....and repeating of the gender mantras.😅

[@theinstituteofmonkeygunvio2542]

The nerve of that one girl to say "my gender is handsome gurl pretty boi". Literally just saying "I identify as attractive". This narcissist has gone beyond demanding custom pronouns to demanding what ADJECTIVES should be used to describe her. As if we needed any more proof that the whole thing is just a power play.

[@cotyb5028]

As a straight man if a women ever came up to me with a check list and aftercare programs and shit... I would immediately leave that date. That just screams needy and attention needing.

[@mikebryant614]

If you bring a spreadsheet to a date you are cray cray, period. Thats Fatal Attraction level disturbed right there.

[@justmehere6094]

As a straight man, gay man, straight woman, lesbian, or bi man or woman, if ANYONE came with that spreadsheet, it's later gator.

[@strangerbythesec]

If you bring a spreadsheet to a date, it better be to show off how good your bookkeeping is 🤣

[@1everydayperson]

She was probably into bdsm and the lists were her this is a green light,this is a maybe while this is a nope. After care is very important for all parties involved. If the couple were in fact looking that type of playmate they're walking red flags for not knowing this and are going to get hurt in a bad way or end up hurting someone else. Negotiating is very important in the bdsm culture/community.

[@whocares_bear]

Most women don't even act that way while virtually all men don't. It must be a TikTok thing

[@Sienna6164]

In the wise words of Blaire White, “Your Not Trans. You’re a clout chaser.”

[@zztopz7090]

Slash schizophrenic.

[@cartergomez5390]

Yeah, I’m a trans guy and I respect gay men if they don’t like me. Bisexual and pansexual guys exist

[@Powerhaus88]

@@cartergomez5390 Pansexual? You mean bi?

[@Noahkita7704]

⁠@@Powerhaus88 they aren’t exactly the same. Pansexual is like being gender “blind”, meaning that when you see someone you don’t see them for their gender but rather who they are as a person. This is *slightly* different from bisexual because within bisexual you could still have a preference for a specific gender over the other (whilst still being attracted to more than one). They are still really similar though because usually both groups of people do not care what genitalia you have since they are both attracted to more than one gender.

[@Powerhaus88]

@@Noahkita7704 That's being a bisexual, you're attracted to BOTH genders. Everyone has a preference, even zoophiles who'd literally fuck anything that moves will still have a preference for one thing.

[@richb2229]

Most of these individuals are manipulative and have been shown how to use language to manipulate others. They are using the current social and political environment to their advantage.

[@jeannahayescook9375]

Nah, it is backfiring and unfortunately it might blow up the whole alphabet.

[@AJHart-eg1ys]

1:30 - There is no such thing as a "cis man." There are only men, and departures from actually being a man. If we allow "cis" to ever really take root, the discussion has already been lost because it's making a key concession of equivocation before it even takes place.

[@bxfbbxcbxc5328]

I honestly a lot of these “non binary” women watched/read too much Yaoi and what to copy the “kawaii” gay guy relationships. Like yeah “twinks” are adorable but they take it too far with all this other BS.

[@jollygirl94]

Wait what. If they want to seek relationship, just be themselve. Not change their whole body surgically to get validations from strangers… -fellow fujioshi here.

[@SageWriterX]

Agree to an extend. I think there are some other mental issues and social pressure going on as well, but they definitely have a weird view on male relationships that definitely seems to come more from fiction than real life.

[@Blakmagic88]

There is something to this…I haven’t fallen down the rabbit hole just yet, but I came across the term “fanfiction to trans-male/non-binary pipeline” the other day…

[@genzi78514]

Uggg, I used to read yaoi, and I can understand the enjoyment, but trying to replicate in real life and make it a f3tish just shows how alike are so many feminists woke to just regular incel MGTOW men.

[@robertosnow3841]

This describes 99 percent of trans people

[@nomadman5288]

If you're not born male, then you cannot experience life as a boy or man. You can experience certain aspects if you have gone through the transition and live as if you were a man, but you will never get close to being able to experience it as a whole. The same goes for females (girls and women). There are just certain things that we go through or can potentially go through-think, feel, recognize, etc.-that, by not being born into them, you are excluded from by nature. That's why "feeling like a man (or woman)" when you are not one doesn't make any sense, and no matter how much one cries about bigotry or oppression, it's not changing. It's the nature of things as they actually are, so what you want is irrelevant.

[@saiteixx]

as a trans man i so fully agree with u !!

[@morrigankasa570]

I 99% agree with you, however some people can get extremely close to understanding people of the opposite s3x & their experiences without being "Trans". I'm a 31 yr old Man who always gets along with/understands Females better, then understanding/getting along with other Men. Even throughout my school years, I didn't have any Male friends but always had multiple Female friends. Sometimes they had problems and I was the only one who they could talk to, in fact 1 of them was suicidal and I convinced her to get the proper help she needed. Additionally with some of the other Girls; there were times during their monthlies that they wouldn't let anyone else near them & lashed out at others, yet came to me for friend comfort & understanding.

[@christinesinclair6938]

Ugh. I'm an educator, and these people piss me off. You teach your subject not yourself!

[@andis60]

Wait....the bull ring transman said that actual men could learn to be real men from watching transmen but the the whole point of a woman wanting to transition into a man is because they want to be like actual men. That is some crazy woman logic there.

[@brynnwalsh6984]

Thank you for saying something about the biphobia!!! I hear so many people labeling themselves as gay or straight but sleeping with both sexes and it makes me wonder what they think is so wrong with calling themselves bisexual??

[@SprinkleMyDoughnuts]

As a lesbian I thought the sane thing. In online lesbian groups I always see women claiming they are lesbians despite being attracted to both but they absolutely refuse to call themselves bi. However if you say something against this, you are the bigot. Doesnt help that they are saying now that lesbian can be defined however you want. It's driving ne nuts

[@brynnwalsh6984]

@@SprinkleMyDoughnuts I’m bi and I’m always wondering “should I be offended that you have an issue with calling yourself bisexual?” Like is there some weird thing like they think something is wrong with it? You’d think it’s a bad thing the way some people are acting

[@leahnzastrzelecki5217]

​@@SprinkleMyDoughnuts I wonder if that is a driving motivator to how bi representation usually churns out. "Bisexual" women in mainstream shows and comics overwhelmingly seem to follow one of two patterns: the "bisexuality" only exists to handwave away a legacy character's previous interest in men which will not emerge again, or it's just a bit of highschool-level drama for another girl to feel jealous, but either way the bi woman always ends up with another woman. Neither of these are inherently wrong, but the consistency of it has struck me as odd. I never though it was my place to say it as a straight woman, but "bisexual" representation usually seems to mean "actually a lesbian who hasn't realized it yet" outside of videogames.

[@rebeccamcguire2798]

i was told i wasn’t gay enough by a trans person because i am not in to trans women so i left this community period most intolerance space i’ve ever been involved in sorry i’ve experienced this and i am not happy with the lgbt community in general anymore im bi btw

[@crash92la98]

I think it comes from way back when everyone looked at bisexuality as more "promiscuous" or as people that just couldn't "make up their minds on what they want." Just quoting some views I've had the pleasure of hearing in the deep south.

[@TwinTalon01]

As a real man, there’s literally Nothing for me to learn from a “trans man”.

[@miaumiaumiaunyanyanya]

You could learn to wipe your ass

[@andrewjames4346]

I live in Denver CO and I was asked in a male bathroom if I had a spare tampon that "he" could use. When I told "him" I don't carry tampons "he" went off on me. I can't even piss against a wall now without being assaulted. It's insane.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Except lessons in illogical, paradoxical, thought.

[@michaeljohndennis2231]

As an older gay man, I’m so done with the nonsense - I’d sooner date your handsome young gay friend than any of these other freaks and weirdos

[@ghostlylover99123]

Old school v the noobs, just perfect

[@f4gsforpele]

Clarkson’s arms and chest in this video 🫦

[@just_nobody86]

My daughter tells me septum piercings are red flags. She's 12.

[@carolsimpson4422]

Well that was true even before this ideological stuff started 😂 I never met anyone with that piercing who didn't do tons of drugs. Like a LOT of drugs. All the drugs.

[@gwendinamichellej]

Septum rings are cultural to some parts of India… some traditional people (men and women) wear them as a part of their culture. Has nothing to do with fashion. It’s crazy to see the number of people doing this as a Fasion statement!!!

[@stephenalexander6721]

Smart kid

[@fedoraqueen4575]

@@gwendinamichellejhey now, no one’s appropriating you back up there buddy

[@gwendinamichellej]

@@fedoraqueen4575 I am merely amused!! I don’t really care/worry about cultural appropriation… I find it very amusing to see the woke fashion.

[@danpatterson8009]

Straight boomer here. Thank you both for making sense of this.

[@itrasheditgood]

At least you can understand old school gay/lesbian and bi terminology. It’s still based on real world, biological terms.

[@brandonhelcher3691]

Gay: male attracted to other males Lesbian: female attracted to other females Bisexual: attracted to both males and females Queer: Whatever the person decides it means in the moment.

[@treesbench5973]

being trans is also biological facts.

[@docsavage8640]

@brandonhelcher3691 Queer: "Whatever I can use to pretend to be offended for social media clout"

[@realangiechrist]

Lol, the large piercing trans "man" talking about masc qualities of being protective, providers etc., I'm thinking this person could not protect me without a firearm, and they're probably against those, and probably unemployed too, so failing in everyway. So sad.

[@Denise_2262]

Could possibly protect you with that stink that I can smell through the screen

[@Lenny_Hondo]

What makes you worthy for them to protect you?

[@tbcy3zj]

He could poke you with the pin on his earrings.

[@Celeste-jh2lj]

Its wild how people have gone full circle, hate and intolerence is back but its not coming from the people they say it is. Its the supposed supportive activists that are being hateful and intolerent to their own people

[@amandaball552]

Exactly. This movement is so full of misogyny and homophobia it's almost laughable. They're so hateful without realising.

[@scouticuss2121]

So the 2nd person is all about supporting, protecting women. So go tell your transwomen friends to stay out of our spaces.

[@jeannahayescook9375]

AMEN

[@Cardinal_claw]

And sports. The injuries are more common and worse overall, scholarships are taken, records are made unbeatable. By half rate men who couldn't accomplish anything without cheating

[@thatHARVguy]

@@Cardinal_claw Athlete Before Transition: almost last of 500 male athletes Athlete After Transition: breaks female athletic records 🤦‍♂ Once a loser, always a loser.

[@PeterJohnJnb]

Dearest Arielle and Clarkson: you are SO necessary and so needed! Thank you for brining reason back to our 'community' - love from South Africa.

[@TheDeity7Zen]

That girl sounds like she keeps Gotham safe at night😂.

[@brocade_silk_moth]

💀

[@Tarukeys]

HAHAHAHAHA!

[@tashawntaylor9860]

I'm just genuinely wondering how they breathe with that giant nose ring. I can feel myself suffocating looking at it.

[@Username18981]

Christian Bale batman, but breathing helium.

[@lunarbaby3]

Don’t say that she wud take it as a compliment fr😂

[@deusdex1186]

I won't be told by a woman what masculinity should be.

[@outlawsyl]

I'm pretty sure well adjusted women understand manhood and well adjusted men understand womanhood just fine

[@ghostthelizard]

There are women who know what masculinity actually is though. Plus some ideas of the ideal man and ideal woman do come from whatever the other sex finds attractive. Lots of women are attracted to traits that people deem masculine. Honestly there are also men who have an image of masculinity that doesnt align with other mens views. Think of something like the alpha male concept.

[@deusdex1186]

@@ghostthelizard I'm more than willing to listen to a woman tell me what women appreciate about masculinity. Just don't tell me about masculinity as if you're a man and you know best unless you actually are one.

[@deusdex1186]

@outlawsyl They only know what they see. They don't understand it as a man does and can never tell me what it is to be a man. They've never lived it and don't have a clue what is healthy or toxic.

[@deusdex1186]

@ghostthelizard They can tell me about what they find attractive. Nothing more. But I don't need them to tell me about something they've never experienced and never will.

[@leonardoD81]

For the past three years I have been saying the LGB needs to divorce itself from the rest of the alphabet.

[@LURLINE_]

without trans people thered be no lgbt community. Your lack of knowledge on lgbt history is showing.

[@MrJohnam123]

But these people aren’t trans either, the T have been part of the space to for many years, I think we need to make a clear distinction though that to be part of that T you actually need to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria and subscribe to either Mtm or Ftm. Which is what it used to be.

[@SageOfLimitlessHands]

We try

[@Healingwand]

Umm let normal tras and asexuals be in too though…

[@Xxelviroxx]

@@Healingwand NOPE, LGBs have nothing to do with transexuals or asexuals. LEAVE us alone

[@pridan94]

As a black gay guy. This is soo exhausting

[@akirahimurakinakiyama99]

As a gay white man I agree all of this mafia Letters it’s just unnecessary

[@pridan94]

@@akirahimurakinakiyama99 exactly

[@mikewaterfield3599]

I know right? I can’t stand these morons.

[@saida-b6w]

Why is this madness not as common in the black gay community?

[@pridan94]

@@saida-b6w i don't know why

[@angelabowers4914]

The chic at the end presents herself like a typical 90s teen girl.🤷‍♀️

[@samanthafairweather9186]

She dresses exactly like I did, back in the 80's! And I'm a straight woman, just a massive tomboy - even to this day.

[@stellastarbrightk7563]

Run gay men run save yourself

[@stellastarbrightk7563]

Look I am already hiding in the caves. It just seamed they would leave you alone. So welcome to the underground

[@chrisleigh485]

I hate to be so harsh, but I think so many of them are teachers because a B.S. in Education is by far the easiest degree to get through for anyone with an average IQ. When women were finally allowed to pursue fields outside education and nursing, the highest performing went into law, medicine, business and other high paying careers, so the overall pool of potential candidates for education degrees became limited to everyone else. The best of the best usually go on to the Ed.D. Hence, the decline in overall education. I know I just pissed a lot of people off, so before you come for me, I TOO am a teacher.

[@megsley]

alot of public school systems now just want people with a bachelor's degree - doesn't have to be in education and they'll push you to get your teaching masters while working there.

[@WinstonSmithGPT]

It’s worse than that. Schools of education have drawn from the bottom quintile of academic achievement and always have. Public data. Also, groomers.

[@randallsanchez3161]

The amount of validation and back pats for doing their job (even if its poorly done) is through the roof. Schools will have teacher awards, parties, newsletters, etc where they can all get highlighted and validated. But the backstabbing is also pretty nuts. The amount of cliques that form is so weird and they'll gladly tear each other down. One of the biggest reasons why they leave is the infighting amongst themselves over petty stuff. The pay is actually quite good and the number of days off they get is also enormous. Frankly the education part in any job is pretty easy to get. Nowadays it's experience that matters. An intern with 2 years of experience in business finance looks pretty competitive compared to an MBA with 0 experience.

[@michaelprice7315]

That makes so much sense, sadly

[@DarthLesbian]

@@randallsanchez3161Once when I was younger looking for a job every job wanted experience but no one wanted to do the training. I was desperate and thought, dishwasher, that’s something anyone could do with no education or real experience right? First listing I found wanted 8 years of experience 💀 For washing dishes. Most others wanted 2-3 years. After actually doing the job later I was even more livid at how ridiculous that was. That job doesn’t take more than a few months to get good and fast at it. It’s not exactly rocket science. Just too much competition these days for the smallest jobs, and people in their 50s who will hoard a minimum wage job for literally decades. There was a lady who worked at our Jack in a box who was there for over 15 years. Sorry teens.

[@incurableromantic4006]

I said this was going to make society go crazy 20 years ago - and everyone called me a bigot and fear monger. . . . . . . .

[@leonardodecrapprio382]

As a straight catholic man, I'm just enjoying watching your old school community fight with new school they/themselves. 🍿🍿🍿

[@Kolby3185]

Such a beautiful catholic sentiment!!

[@dhlong1697]

As a bisexual Catholic man, enjoy this dialogue also.

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

I miss the old school. Things made more sense.....

[@brendanawesomeness]

Weird pastime

[@giuseppejoseph8890]

I'm a bisexual catholic/ Christian too.

[@chincemagnet]

Basing your whole life around who you like to sleep with is the most shallow and pathetic existence a human can experience

[@jokerace8227]

Some people clearly need more hobbies and interests.

[@MakeMakeShift]

I never fail to be annoyed at how these people say they are non binary and how at the same time they reinforce ‘binary’ stereotypes 🙄

[@WNM543]

One day the world will look back on this alphabet circus shit and say "WTF!?"

[@Oysters176]

I knew this shit, would happen when I was a kid, not the extent of it, just that it would be a problem. So freaking scary. I'm just trying to keep my assets together.

[@eccremocarpusscaber5159]

It already is 😂

[@RedRiverMan]

I hope your'e right but I pray this is not signalling social collapse.

[@ninjawizard3865]

That day came long ago...you late to the party.

[@WNM543]

@@ninjawizard3865 Then why's it still able to hijack our schools, government, mainstream media, social media, health care system, etc?

[@joethepagan3297]

‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean-neither more nor less.’

[@TheOriginalMrScorpio]

This is definitely tea party level crazy. 😂

[@Gernot66]

Toxic masculinity is one of the most misinterpreted terms. It was first brought up by a socioanthropologist who claimed that it is *toxic to men* and society to lose their typical male attributes, and not vice versa that male attributes would be toxic. In this sense a toxic man is one who doesn't fulfills the classic role he played for 50'000 years or so, that is how a socioanthropologist looks at such problems, in a far wider timespan. The same guy also would claim that a vegan nutrification doesn't suits us humans, he would even have evidence for his claim.

[@DBTT1000]

Vegan what? He thought a vegan diet wasn't sufficient enough for humans or males?

[@leahnzastrzelecki5217]

​@@DBTT1000 I mean the vegan diet flat out can't support any human long term. Vegetarian can work, but most that do make it work are more pescatarian than true vegetarians.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

@@leahnzastrzelecki5217 wow you peeps are smooth brained, i have been vegan for like 30 yrs, no sign of dying, can't keep my dick down, you want some, trash?

[@rebeccahicks2392]

It's undeniable that there are toxic traits more likely to be found among men than women, and women than men. So, regardless of origin, "toxic masculinity" has value in its current usage (and so would "toxic femininity). It doesn't mean that masculinity is inherently toxic.

[@emanymton713]

@@rebeccahicks2392no, the traits deemed toxic about “masculinity “ can 100% also apply to women. And men generally agree that exhibiting those traits is not masculine behavior to begin with.

[@jojowynne233]

As a straight person I have to say that first person reminds me of the creepy swingers that tried to assault my sister and I when we were 16 and 15 years old. 🤬

[@MariahYanez]

Arielle, as another lesbian...I can't keep up, LOL! These people are confusing the hell outta me! 🤣

[@TheReluctantVlogger]

I’m a hetero woman and I don’t even talk this much about the details before a dating app hookup. I’m in a monogamous relationship now but when I wasn’t it was never that complicated. There’s something sad about feeling that afraid of a sexual encounter. Hopefully no one ever gave them a good reason to be afraid … so is the couple looking for a reoccurring, more consistent “play” partner and not just a one night deal? Maybe that makes it more reasonable but did they explain that? Anyway yea… confusing af all around.

[@DJEllieV]

Also lesbian....also confused LOL ...take your eyes off youtube for one bloody minute and they have a whole new glossary of terms! XD

[@MariahYanez]

@@DJEllieV 🤣 Right!

[@FancyForestPerson]

The reason there’s a queer- to-teacher pipeline is because most teachers are heavily educated in sociology, but never leave academia so are never forced to pressure-test their theories-turned-ideologies in the real world.

[@BearPawSwipe]

The writing was on the wall when it comes to these types of people and luckily, I am old enough, I can just avoid them completely. It was only a matter of time before this new brand of bigotry impacted us and of course, it is from the pretenders. There was a time I was so hopeful for our community but that has passed. We will be lucky to survive as a "community".

[@shakur509tupac6]

I hate being called Cis woman. I'm just a woman! Periodt!

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

All the 'nonbinary' people are beginning to look the same. Kind of just...doughy and round XD

[@dudeorduuude5211]

Because they are low on the hierarchy women. I don't like the whole hierarchy thing as it isn't good to look down on others, but because they are entitled and weird, I will cut through that B.S. with the truth.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@dudeorduuude5211 Godspeed dude.

[@derekb4977]

​@@MrJustonemorevoice there's no such thing as non binary

[@derekb4977]

​@@MrJustonemorevoice there's no such thing as non binary

[@ghostthelizard]

Maybe we found out what a nonbinary transition looks like.... septum piercing doughy and round

[@fogpumas]

I like Clarkson. He is an ideal gay man. Let’s get back to that

[@gaborboth3602]

The "play" comment - it's commonly used in the fetish community as an umbrella term for all sorts of kink and sexual activities, because in those circles, asking someone over for fun doesn't necessarily mean conventional sex. "Aftercare" is also a BDSM term; a session of fetish play can bring people really high, it can be emotionally intense, a massive endorphin rush in a way regular sex isn't. If it just ends suddenly (in vanilla terms, "rolling over and falling asleep" or "just calling them a taxi", stuff like that) it can cause a crash, a depressive state called "a drop". That's why people discuss ahead of time what the other partner requires to come down from it in a good way, and that's aftercare. It's typically cuddling, talking, assurance, water, and snacks.

[@mertechnightcore4098]

This comment is important , thx

[@upnorth2421]

Sounds like you have not had decent "regular sex".

[@ApesAmongUs]

"I'll take 'Reasons I hate BDSM People' for $400, Alex"

[@talonr7818]

I was way off when she said that. I thought aftercare meant cleaning up the mess or something.

[@jeannahayescook9375]

Next

[@tarotreadingsbysteven8545]

Another note about why they are all teachers is because the children literally don't have a choice to be there or not. It's literally the same as holding people hostage.

[@TrouvatkiDePercusion]

I love the fact that the man is just kinda rotating his hand like, "...okay...okay.... get to the fucking point. Stop wasting my time." and the woman who pretends to be man just "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah some woman shit" and won't get to the fucking point. Golly gee whiz, it's almost as if men and women have inherent biological and evolutionary differences, and the difference could not possibly be more obvious when you just place the two right next to each other. I love it ❤

[@AllThoseChickens]

Any time someone asks if I "want to play" in a sexual manner, it grosses me tf out. Maybe it's just a me thing, but "play" is what kids do, and you asking me to play is like when I would go outside and play with friends, and those two concepts should never cross paths

[@louwinters508]

It's a BDSM thing. They do pain play, and other types. It's just a code word. To attract others who are into this sort of stuff. What ever floats your boat.

[@devildocgaming]

Is it just me, but the septum rings evoke the mustache of a leader in Germany from the 1930-40s especially the bigger ones.

[@mfanto1]

😅 when you are so close to the truth, its almost on the nose. Are you trying to create the new SS?

[@BlueBird1994_]

To me, it just makes them look like cattle, like bulls with the nose ring thingies.

[@fogpumas]

7:03 I describe her look and entire identity as “attention seeking”. She should make peace with her dad

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

Whatever happened to. "You cant help what/who you're attracted to?" These activists are simply proving what the right said all along about "choosing" to be gay.

[@Mistmantle88]

Only bisexuals believe or say that nonsense. According to Kinsey 46% of North American males are bisexual, but most of them claim to be either straight or gay. These are the ONLY people who truly believe sexuality is a choice for everyone, because they believe themselves to be indicative of what is “normal” and they DO get to choose because they’re actually bi.

[@sarahg2653]

Yes. That's a problem. Sexual orientation is not a choice. I cannot force myself to be attracted to the same sex; therefore, I assume gay people cannot force themselves to be attracted to the opposite sex. While an anecdotal experience, this extrapolation makes sense to me. And this new community is undoing that very foundation, the one that gay rights were built upon. This cannot be a good development for gay people.

[@chrisjackson8151]

They are also engaging in a form of conversion therapy.

[@csumme7]

Some people like hot dogs and some people like tacos... and some people like both. Why does it have to be so difficult for something so easy? When I talked with my kids and the "subject" came up that is how I explained it. I liked what Dennis Rodman once said. "why do people dislike Bis so much....because we do it with everybody."

[@chadvanderlinden9548]

Transwomen saying they're better women than women is, let's call it, "cissplaining", lol

[@hym3323]

Men being Jealous of women basically. The whole thing is one huge cope.

[@Attmay]

I can understand being jealous when a woman gets a man you are actually attracted to. But this? This takes it way too far.

[@BasquiatSama]

No it's just plain misogyny.

[@thatHARVguy]

@@BasquiatSama Trans-women are the new Patriarchy.

[@victorzoela7879]

People forget that Gender dysphoria isn't just "uncomfortable or disliking" something related to your "gender". It's far deeper than that. the main one is the extreme distress, rejection and anxiety for their biological genitalia. Voice, Chest size. hair coverage, wingspan, muscle structure. GD doesn't come in different extremes. there's only One version. Besides that as a Trans-sex I only date Bisexual people. I'm happily engaged to my fiance and he's bisexual. I'm also bisexual. all works out better if you chose the people that WANT you instead of forcing yourself into a space where people can't even Choose to want you. They just cannot get it up for a vajayjay.

[@NoahJ-ii2ty]

It's experiencing distress because you feel like you should have been born the opposite sex was some type of intersex Condition not everyone who has it wants to have bottom surgery

[@angelaa1611]

The term "Aftercare" comes from the BDSM community, she said that she and her partner have a D/s dynamic, which means Dom/sub. "Aftercare" is typically given to a submissive following a "scene," or play session (which is prob why she's saying "play" and not "f*ck"). Depending on the type of scene, a sub may require Aftercare, which can mean pretty much anything (like, hugs, snacks, bruise or minor injury care, a soft robe, a back rub etc). Just wanted to clarify....she's talking BDSM terms. 😊

[@angelaa1611]

One more thing...she's wanting lots of communication prior to meeting to see if the potential play partner is compatible with what they are looking for. Activities are normally discussed and planned prior to meeting for the scene. This is really, really common and necessary when engaging in this stuff. But they're just meeting random dudes on Grindr who probably aren't used to BDSM protocols and have no idea why these 2 want to discuss everything to death. Someone needs to introduce them to BDSM dating sites like FetLife and CollarSpace. They would have a much better time.

[@TwistedOnyx369]

@@angelaa1611 I picked up on that stuff as well. I too am wondering why these 2 are on grnder when they should be on an app specific for BDSM activity. Also maybe this is a good opportunity for these two to start a transgender-specific BDSM site.

[@louwinters508]

Oh yeh lol. They are in a Dom, sub relationship. Made famous by that disgusting film fifty shades lol. Although apparently that was an abusive example. The ones on Grindr probably don't really do that sort of thing. So it's not a man thing but rather people that haven't got a clue about BDSM. Not everyone is up for that especially with hookups.

[@theresas740]

He's still being ridiculous for Grindr.

[@ghostthelizard]

Actually this makes this thing make more sense besides the fact that theyre looking on grindr. Even without the bdsm stuff it would be weird because its a gay man app for gay men

[@Yer_m0ms_buzzlighty3ar]

It’s so refreshing to see you and everyone you bring to your channel and the dialogue you bring. I’m a straight, right leaning independent, and have mainly been a strong supporter of the gay community. Lately, it seems like those voices have been drowned out and another wave has come to destroy what the original community has taken so long to build and bridge support for. I just want to say, I’m happy to see your platform get larger and your following get larger. Please keep going, you grabbed my support quickly.

[@humer1971]

This is just about "me, me, me, me", and if you don't pay attention to "me" you are, (pick your label of the day). Tired, boring and depressing.

[@randl7423]

"What's the difference between gay and queer? About 50 lbs and a nose-ring" 😂 - why is it so accurate?!

[@davidr9876]

If there's an issue with Black America, you need black leaders to step up and lead. It needs to come from within the community. And it's nice to see gays and lesbians step up to say hold on...this is messed up. Do what good you can until they kick you out of LGBTQ. Which they will attempt to do.

[@rodneybever9583]

Back in the day, all we wanted was to be accepted as a normal part of society. Now, they don't want to be part of society at all. I have renounced everything LGBT now and have never been happier.

[@MystikalSmoker1776]

As a 21st century "homophobe".......God I love normal gay people. Odd that KZbin thinks homophobe isn't a word. Especially when there's so many videos here that call me a homophobe because of my opinions.

[@shannykinredgate3451]

Like mysogyny, homophobia got all dressed up!

[@user-dn6fw1ss1c]

Thanks for always giving a different perspective, Arielle! Your videos have been very thought provoking and have helped me get out of my echo chamber. Love your content!!

[@richfarmer3478]

You say "50 pounds and a nose ring" and the "queer" in the first clip fits that description perfectly.

[@StormLord-AOS]

makes themselves so confusing that they will always have the victim card for being misunderstood all the clarity and acceptance that was worked so hard for, washed away with the murkey BS.

[@KevinInPhoenix]

Eventually the LGBs will figure out that the Ts are not their allies but their opponents.

[@justin-r3s5i]

This isn't even the T or least not what T use to mean . These people are to the extreme

[@Attmay]

I figured that out a long time ago.

[@honestalex5790]

​​@@justin-r3s5i I agree, I'm a trans man, I surround myself mostly with women who love women, I wonder why ? Maybe bc I have most in common with women who love women, I'm just masculine to the point of living and appearing as male

[@chumgamer7331]

​@@honestalex5790 if you want to look like a man you can be just a girl who like to look like a man. If you suffer from gender dysphoria then you are trans

[@MizrahiChick]

The best qualities of humanity have no gender . Kindess isn't a female thing or a male thing .

[@paradoxexposer4820]

That last part of your video… THANK YOU!!! I’ve been saying this for a while and nobody has been able to provide a coherent counter. It’s like they have some sort of deep hatred of being seen as the opposite that they try to deny the obvious fact they like both. This internalized hatred they have, they act like it’s everybody else who has such hatred when in all actuality, it’s them.

[@A_Lien.]

Oh damn...What you said about teachers wanting to be validated so choosing to be with younger malleable minds blew mine! It's scary to think there's people like that, probably among the students I teach... I'm an University teacher, teaching future teachers... I always try to teach them to self reflect and to think about how they position themselves but might do it even more now...

[@leiladebees5384]

As a single woman in her 30's, we don't claim her.

[@JenniferMcMahonhawaii78]

I think that second video of that “non-binary man” and their true identity is that of an ENERGY VAMPIRE; seriously, “NON-BINARY MAN!” 😅😂🤣

[@Lifes_a_Willow]

I've been watching your channel, Arielle since, back when you were dating a girl named Stevie, so about 10ish years(?) you've been amazing in helping me through my journey into being a teenager and then a young adult and now full adult as a part of what use to be the LGBT. Just wanted to say how awesome you are!!

[@katiebugster2223]

A Non binary man?.... But I'm pretty sure that's a woman.... I just can't with anything non binary...

[@mikebryant614]

Non Binary is not identifying as exclusively either Male or Female , so how can you be a " non binary" man, thats a direct contradiction , you are either a man or a non binary , you cant be both of those at the same time as that doesnt even make sense.

[@Bodytheliz]

Non binary mfkrs are irritating asf

[@louwinters508]

It's very confusing. I just nod and smile.. I think it means androgynous man. But in this case they are female. Like huh.

[@NoahJ-ii2ty]

I have gender dysphoria I feel like I should have been female and I have plans to change my body to look female despite the fact that I can never become female and I plan on living As the social identity typical of adult human females Despite this I still feel connected to what I was assigned /born as Because that is the part of my lived experience and I don't seek to erase it completely This means that it's sometimes difficult to me to define myself as being just a man or just a woman I would define that as a non binary experience Like yes A good percentage of non binary people are gender nonconforming people who just want attention but that is not the case for many of us many of us struggle with dysphoria

[@Ogre6972]

The vocal fry is killing me. 😳

[@jilliansamael881]

Love the handsome gay, everything he said was on point, glad to see other lgbs keep it real

[@saiteixx]

lgbt's* babes. no one said actual trans ppl accept non binary-man or wtv the handsome gurl pretty boi thing is.

[@ikkenhisatsu7170]

This insanity has to stop. This video makes my head hurt.

[@gimiwanmemengwaa]

See how that person with the nose ring said I like checking in on my trans women friends not my women friends. It’s because it doesn’t care about real women.

[@HunterofMadness]

it's the complete lack of any awareness that gets me every time. I mean you can fit someone's preferences and they can still just not be attracted to you, it's like there standards for a sexual partner is so low they can't understand how other people could just not find someone else unattractive.

[@emilysundy]

The expansive masculinity one sounds like Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos scammer extraordinaire

[@cdrone4066]

I’m a 72 yo woman, if a guy had these conversations with me I would walk away, swiftly. Who talks like that.