Comparing 13 Celestion Guitar Speakers Using the SAME RIFF

[@ALT3REDB3AST]

I came for the shootout, but stayed for the riff! Badass!!! As far as speakers, I can't decide!

[@JohanSegeborn]

ALT3REDB3AST Thanks! That's my favourite kinda feedback! :-) Cheers Johan

[@toranarama1]

Haha same!

[@igotcasmell7263]

0:10 1. ´83 G12-80 with 444 Bass Cone 0:26 2. ´78 G12-80 with 1777 Lead Cone 0:43 3. '65 G12 B025 AlNiCo Silver 1:00 4. '88 Vintage 30 (444 Bass Cone) 1:17 5. '71 Pre Rola Greenback G12H-30 (75Hz) (Pulsonic Lead Cone) 1:34 6. '74 Rola Greyback G12H-30 (75Hz) (Pulsonic Lead Cone) 1:52 7. '72 Rola Greenback G12H-30 (55Hz) (Pulsoic Bass Cone) 2:09 8. '80 G12-65 2:26 9. '89 G12M-70 2:43 10. '87 G12T-75 3:00 11. '79 G12-125 3:17 12. '93 G12T (100) 3:34 13. '91 G12B-150

[@Alexander_Tronstad]

Thanks for doing this! Makes it so much easier to compare the ones I want to see up against eachother "did this have more treble than this? Hmm.. okay, but sounds more closed off" Perfect for this sort of video! :)

[@nealixd.3011]

Excellent, thanks.

[@MrKnisterable]

Hooray

[@wpsiamthatinot]

Pulsonic didn’t cut through mix(bass drum)

[@pppaulie73]

1972 G12H30 55hz killer sound!! Great job Johan!

[@landan101]

A video this labor intensive and useful is deserving of praise. Thank you so much.

[@florisgooijer7927]

Everytime when I need to look something up on my Marshall, or cabs and speakers I end up with your reviews, really great stuff

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Floris Gooijer Thanks Floris! So glad to hear it!

[@InternetTRex]

I'm just here for the riff

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks :-) glad you like it

[@TheZooman22]

I am trying to learn that riff, its too cool not to steal,

[@rangerdoc1029]

TheZooman22 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4eXeZKGpsZoq7M

[@patrickrosington1174]

@@JohanSegeborn this is truly an iconic riff. Something ill never stop.playing. when people as where its from ill say from the rock n roll plexiwhisperer johan

[@amateurism1]

My wife and I jam out to it all the time, it's like our inside joke, whenever we get a song stuck in our head, we play this video our the wizard by Black Sabbath.

[@kierenmoore3236]

00:10 - G12-80 (444) 00:27 - G12-80 (1777) 00:44 - G12 (B025) 1:01 - Vintage 30 (444) 1:18 - G12H-30 75 (Greenback) 1:35 - G12H-30 75 (Greyback) 1:53 - G12H-30 55 2:10 - G12-65 2:27 - G12M-70 2:44 - G12T-75 3:01 - G12-125 3:18 - G12T (100) 3:34 - G12B-150

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Kieren Moore Thanks Kieren, I really appreciate it!

[@mattwall1090]

'88 vintage 30 and '93 G12T-100 were really great tones imparticular

[@ItaiIfrach]

For me the G12-80 made in 1978 is the most overall balanced ! What a great comparison as always

[@N2F1]

INCREDIBLE amount of work to do this. VERY cool and THANKS. It's amazing how different each of the older G-12's sound. Good job mang

[@JohanSegeborn]

+N2F1 Thanks! :-)

[@offsetb]

This is such a sick riff! I'm just having fun listening to your playing through these awesome speakers!

[@charlesshaw9090]

Just found this great little video. This it really how to do a comparison! You get to hear the real, instant differences. I was surprised at how some sounded; All of the high wattage ones distorted on the deep chords and all the heavy magnets just sounded woolly. The others were all pretty good but to my ears the G12M-70 really did the job! I was listening on an extremely good sound system. Cool riff too!

[@TassosVogiatzis]

Great great riff. I could hear it for hours!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! :-)

[@iplayloud2]

I remember throughout the 90's comparing the T75 with G12-65 and M70 Marshall cabs and always preferring the T75s. The T75 is reviled today but it was the most "normal" sounding rock speaker for the longest time.

[@JimijaymesProductions]

I hate the G12T-75 but I think they do sound kind of vintage ish comparative to the modern speakers of the 80s. My feeling is they are a scooped slightly bland version of classic celestion (like the v30 is a slightly nasal and spiky, aggressive vintage celestion) but the more modern speakers (classic lead, g12-65, sounded quite different probably due to quite different manufacturing and trying to be more modern).

[@SanFranciscoFatboy]

they sound best in a band....... bedroom practicing is another thing...these favor highjs :)

[@JonasSweden1]

I really like the G12H-30 55 Hz - great clip Johan!

[@JohanSegeborn]

JonasSweden1 Thanks Jonas, My favourite too. Cheers! Johan

[@zbyszekolko3998]

Personally I never played G12H30 55 but I am the lucky owner of '83 G12-80 444 which in this test do sound very similar to H30 :)

[@KristonAbbott]

The best sound I ever had was 4 of those monsters in a tall B cab. I miss that cab.

[@DreidMusicalX]

1:00 88 Vintage 30 - 1:51 G12 H-30 - 2:42 87 G12T - 75 - 3:17 93 G12T (100) were my favorites. Thanks for helping me narrow down the choice of speakers for the cabinet I am going to put together. Know your time is greatly appreciated!

[@traviswheeler3196]

That Riff Tho!!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Travis!

[@erickrada0]

PLS a transcription, that riff is so f*** killer man. Can i use it for a song? :D

[@rangerdoc1029]

quatermas7 1st bar: open E, D2 (d string second fret) , A2, A4, open D. Second bar: A4, A2, A4, open D, Open A, repeat....

[@snowyrain5730]

transcription??? lol ... WATCH him play it and then play it yourself. GOD in heaven.... how do you think people "learned songs" before the internet? USE THE EARS GOD GAVE YOU SON and thanks to Johan for these great videos !

[@lotromaster14]

Snowy Rain my mother gave me these ears not god 😂

[@Vivelabretagnelibre]

Funkiest riff ever ! congrats on your work Johan, I installed a G12H-30(55) in my new Marshall DSL20, now it's a killer !

[@george.kollaros]

G12-80 w/444 cone, G12H-30 55hz, Vintage 30. Listened through Edirol (Roland) powered monitors.

[@zundap100]

Great work Johan as always, thanks.

[@ritualafterlife]

89 G12M-70 with that riff. Nice!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Terry!

[@joelrosenau4505]

Fantastic!! This ranks up there as one of my favorite videos of all time. Thank you so very much for what you do here on youtube. Great comparison.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Joel, I’m so glad to hear that! Cheers!

[@stormyweather2837]

I could listen to you play this riff for months it ROCKS !!!!!!!!!!!

[@KyleTheGuitarGuy]

Oh my gosh, the G12-65 was amazing... I need a Marshall 4x12 impulse response with G12-65's so bad.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Yeah those really rocks

[@BullittOutdoors]

+acdcrocker22 They sound like butt in the Marshall JCM800 4X12

[@twidget59]

Personally I love all the work, talent and obvious love for music, gear and tone, you give us in your videos. Not everyone plays at convert levels, or uses 100 watt tube heads (I was one of the unfortunate owners of a JCM-900 Dual Reverb - hated it). But, love the riffs, love the videos and the tests. Thank you, for sharing.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks man! Glad you like em. Cheers

[@lazomachavez-walton1549]

Johan, Thanks for all your hard work.

[@geryhatrix]

I love and enjoy these comparisons you do Johan!! How about 2 other type of side by side comparisons: 12" Celestions versus 10" Celestions. And, 2 or more speakers of different brands that have totally different tonalities. These Celestions in this shootout are fairly close in tonality (to my ears, anyway). It would be an eye opener to hear some more drastic differences for perspective.

[@richardv.582]

thnx for this Travis,it took a lot of time and effort to put this together.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+richard V. thanks

[@luffyhegalong7915]

Thank you very much for the time for this shootout! That riff!

[@jommonox]

Excellent comparison vid. Plus a bonus riff at the end. Very clever 😀

[@GrantsV5]

Great work! Must have took a long time...

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Yeah I had my fill of speakers for a while there ;-)

[@NicoBellisarioMusic]

time for the yearly re-watch of this masterpiece

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks my friend!

[@HBNF721]

Nice - Thank you for taking the time on this one, must of taken a while - Interesting and choice of speakers IMO, some I would of never had a chance to hear

[@superspeederbooster]

This riff is killing!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Luki! :-) Great to hear that!

[@sim0n17]

great demo of the under-rated 12M-70

[@zbyszekolko3998]

In Johan's tests 12M-70 sound so well - quite opposite to their forum's bad rep ;)

[@vilewills]

That's why I just ordered one! Love the tone here

[@elise9126]

Was about to say the same. Sounds better than some of the others really...at least in this demo....& on this device.

[@theclanmorrison]

Killer playing by the way! Great feel and tone!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Lisa, glad to hear that! Cheers

[@5150powder]

the 1978 G12 80 kicks ass!!

[@danides1]

GREAT TIMING !

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! :-)

[@LongStraightLines]

Awesome effort thanks Johan! '88 Vintage 30 and '71 GH12H-30 for me!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! :-)

[@MrJello66]

Very good comparison, thanks.

[@Strato-Kasper]

Bought a pair of Rola G12-80's after this shootout. They are awesome, [and that riff never gets old!]

[@XChristianNoirX]

Yeah, which ones? They both sound great and I keep changing my mind which one I like better!

[@bishlap]

93 G-12 T (100) really felt like i was 5th row center of any great band. Thanks, Johan, I'm on a mission to listen/comment on all your vids... wish me luck.

[@supersrt8]

Hello Johan from South Florida. Excellent video's from you, and very informative as well. I bought a 1983 JCM800 2204 Master Volume Marshall brand new, original owner. I bought the head leftover as everybody wanted the latest 1984 models, so lucky me I got an 1983. I did not want the 1960B cabinet, and that's all the stores stocked unless you got the stack, so I ordered a new cabinet then waited, and waited. Finally arriving in early spring 1985. The original speakers intact still working are Celestion G12T-75 Type T3760 with 1777 cones. These look like the G12T-65 with the vents, white label and truly sound amazing because they do not have a scooped sound. I can run these with all three tone controls near flat '5, or 50% with all of my guitars. I'm partial to the Les Paul 2014 Traditional Pro II 50's with this amp, but just ordered a brand new Jackson USA Adrian Smith San Dimas DK. I'm wondering if you've got a specific video with this combo, or your thoughts on the speaker. I am looking forward to your Eminence review as I also have a Marshall 1X12 JTMC12 sealed cab with the Eminence Patriot 'Texas Heat' speaker running from a Bugera G-5 (my cheap secret weapon). Sorry for the long post, just really interested on the history of the G12T-75 speaker with the vented rear. Thank you Johan.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+supersrt8 Thanks! Yeah when I find one of those I will play it over here right away. I love the firms bass of T75s but they're usually too scooped, but the earliest ones had both worlds. Cheers

[@livewire2404]

Main riff : e------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ B------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ G------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ D---------2-------------------------0-----------------------------------0--------------- A----------------2---------4--------------------------4---2---4------------0--------- E---0-----------------------------------------0-------------------------------------0--- Enjoy!!

[@juceliodelmondes1755]

Thx

[@glorideefaithperez2858]

The '72 G12H 30W 55hz Bass cone. Ideal guitar tone!

[@rveurope]

Super ( certainly G 12 H 55)...the best presentation so far!

[@tonyash623]

This confirms that I need a quad of G12-80's (either cone version) in my life. Those sound incredible!

[@areyouavinalaff]

with every change of speaker I liked the sound. different doesn't mean better, so I have real hard time choosing. they're all great.

[@LukaS-iy1gs]

MAN, just got a G12-65 for dimes and replaced the G12m70 in my 4010 combo. The difference is IMMEASURABLE! Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!

[@thaianddanelifeinthailand4803]

No 1, 2 and no 4. Great distorted sounds. With the undefineable "it factor" when it comes to compelling rock sounds with just the right magic mix of highs, mids and lows.

[@infectionsman]

those bass cones sound glorious!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+infectionsman Thanks :-)

[@MattSyversonthePaperbackRocker]

Awesome riff.

[@andrewdenine1685]

Crazy just watched video of yours the album with 12 amps and it opens with this jam u did but the slide hooks your doing here with fingers man great turnaround /pre chorus/chorus wherever you wanna put that it works great love it

[@alphaparticles]

All about that G12-65. What a ballsy tone!

[@animalboy71]

Alpha Particles Ya, that one was nice to my ears!

[@NicoBellisarioMusic]

This riff still haunts me at night

[@carranen]

difficult to say in one shot! several hearing are needed but one remains at all times : the alnico 65' !!! It has this "kind of sound" that I really enjoy! thanks Johan!

[@abysmillard78]

That '74 g12h-h30 75hz is so warm and creamy - awesome job, bud!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Stephen Wade Thanks man! Yeah it's a very balanced speaker

[@barthrvatin8297]

I love this riff Johan!

[@marvinlemartien2186]

Very cool demo , i can finaly hear the difference between the vintage 30,the 12 m70 & 75 , over the years i played with a few of these speakers the g12-80 the g12-75 & the g12-100 and now i have the ones i like the most the vintages 30 but i find the 75 really souded nice too Thanks for taking youre time to do that video

[@ericlarsen]

It’s quite apparent, I had no idea, Celestion made zillions of speakers and all sound good in there own way. Some is what the speaker does and some it’s personal taste. Killer video. I have a plethora of Celestion. Blue alnico, 35 year old v30’s ....and so on, and I can’t pick a fav out of mine.

[@GameLevelEditor]

Riff number 1 is catchy! .... love the vibe of it Throughout the gamut of Celestions i liked that 78" G12-80.

[@mydadcanwoopyourdad]

G12B - 150 at the end sounds pretty sick! I thought it was the fullest sounding and least shrill!

[@80sCompaqPC]

That G12-65 sounds great! Great demo! I think my most favorite guitar tone has got to be the tone on The Cult's Electric album! Especially on the song Lil' Devil. But I'm not sure what kind of speakers that album was recorded with though. Greenbacks maybe? Not sure what model Marshall it was either. It's similar to the AC/DC tone but a little different.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+80sCompaqPC Thanks! Yeah that's a great tone, it could G12-65s. Greenbacks are usually a little brighter. Cheers Johan

[@nataliejustinmurphy2671]

Killer riff! I loved this video thank you!

[@XChristianNoirX]

They all sound great with a few exceptions. The more I listen, the more I change my mind!

[@julesmeuffels]

Very helpful! Thanks for all the work.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+JM Speakers Thanks!

[@denforundrade695]

The higher wattage Celestions seems to have more top and sounds more aggressive and the lower wattage have more mids and sounds warmer and more organic. In all it's just completely different sounding speakers for different purposes and for different amps. I myself is more of a old school player and enjoy the warmth and the richness of the old school speakers but I gotta say the B205 Alnico Silver sounded pretty darn good and aggressive. Thinking of bying two G12H-30s and two G12Ms and put them in the same cab. Thanks for the video Johan.

[@dafxtone]

My favorites (I don't like the greenback neither large cone speaker.) : 1. G12 B025 AlNiCo Silver 2. ´78 G12-80 with 1777 Lead Cone (surprisingly good for a large cone speaker, as they are usually muddy) 3. '88 Vintage 30 (444 Bass Cone) A regular version of the Vintage 30 miss a bit, as they are really anywhere and more britgher than the Marshall version. Very good stuff as usual. Cheers !

[@JohanSegeborn]

dafxtone Thanks! Interesting about the marshall V30. Cheers

[@waskerbasket9601]

The ‘78 is the one if I could only have one.

[@sonnygutierrez9804]

Johan! I've said it before, I'll say it again... Best damn demos on KZbin!! Even from a musical standpoint, outstanding. I really dig the 2nd G12-80 lead cone speaker. I've never heard them before, pretty killer. My next fav is the beloved g12-65. Thanks man, keep it up. Your friends from USA.....

[@sitesta3748]

got them in a slanted 4x12 Kitty Hawk. Will never let go!

[@irishRocker1]

You made all of them sound really good! I usually hate the G12T-75 and wasnt too bad in this and some of the others sounded awesome!

[@Heineken1712]

'78 G12-80 with 1777 Cone sounds like it was made for this particular riff

[@zyxwfish]

That was my favorite too

[@stevelemur6113]

Thank you for playing the same riff on all the speakers. Most of the other presentations online the guitar player is more interested in showing what HE can do rather than what the speakers can do. The only way one can compare apples to apples is the way you have done - the same riff on every speaker.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Steve!

[@Freddekaddeth]

Great job Johan!

[@kraid80]

Crazy difference between '71 and '74 g12h30!

[@jakewilliams5796]

I must have watched this video 100 times, or more.

[@danman9510]

Great riff and great test !!

[@JimijaymesProductions]

People claim to hate the G12M-70 but I actually at least here like it better than some of the speakers of that tone like the g1265 and g12T75 (my least liked main series speaker though there is some awesome JCM800 tones with them).

[@OperationEndGame]

65 alnico speaks to me.

[@jamesmolina2501]

Great Comparison! But I can't get enough of that riff !! Do you think you could TAB the whole riff and post it? I'm an intermediate player still learning and I would LOVE to have that riff as a warm up.

[@5150powder]

work it out by ear. i did. it will be good for you. people rely on tabs too much. listen to it. and work it out.

[@MoistRobots]

Wow, didn't think it'd go that way but I like the G12T75 best (#10). Great comparison as always, Johan. You should do a vid sometime where you talk about what you like best.. you've documented so much over the years that it's really kind of ridiculous.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+GhostOfAE Thanks! I actually have done a video of the 20 Marshall riggs/recordings I liked the best do far: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJerXmtjeNucitk Cheers Johan

[@philrob110]

Hey Johan. Just wanted to say a big thanks for this video. I've been after a speaker for my Alessandro Redbone Special; which you could say is a bit Marshall-y. I currently have ET65s in there and I hear what I don't like in them when you play with the G12-65 - and what I am wanting came with the G12B-150...so a BIG thanks, otherwise I'd still be wandering around, metaphorically speaking. :D

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Phil Robinson Thanks man, glad that the clips are put to some good use!

[@philrob110]

Most definitely - keep up the great work. Thank you.

[@uppencider]

Sounds great and it really helped me out. Thankyou!!!!!!!!!

[@rangerdoc1029]

The only man who can make a V30 sound good for something other than metal

[@kroadster3249]

That is how a comparison video must be done.Only so you can remember the speaker before and after

[@Alexanderstarreveldo]

I have some ‘74 g12H’s 75hz (Greybacks) and I love them. Huge improvement over the Chinese V30’s. They make my Orange AD30 scream out in beauty!! I grabbed them after seeing your Orange vs Marshall vid.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Glad to hear that!

[@00DirectorsCut00]

I love all! Anyone is own sound !

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! :-)

[@benstein3014]

I'm having a trashed G1280 reconed with a 444 because of what I heard here....thanks johan!!

[@Axman66]

+++ yeah this Riff says it all.... who needs full band???+++ very nice and eye-opening

[@shorerocks]

What a cool riff. Yeah Baby!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Sven! :-)

[@davidbuzzin426]

😉'87 G12T-75 (my fave)😉'71 G12H -30W, 75Hz ( 2nd fave)😉'74 G12-H 30W, 75Hz (3rd fave)😉 *I never liked at all V30's (blah stiff hollow tone & feel)😆Thanx again my brother my friend "JOHAN"

[@JohanSegeborn]

+David Buzzin Cheers my friend

[@JimmyBen]

I liked the G12-80 with the 1777 cone the best. Thanks

[@tiziocaio4561]

Thanks Johan ...I though that the Vintage 30 was my holy grail now I am confused again

[@nate6692]

That bass drum whomp is amazing. Also - I've heard the G12M-70 trashed a lot of forums (what's in my Carvin X-60C) but it didn't sound bad at all here.

[@MarcusW87]

Nathan Stewart exactly, it’s one of my favourites from this shootout and luckily I’m picking up a 1960A JCM800 with those speakers this week!

[@HiAxl]

Those are great speakers. Never listen to forum / bedroom guitarists. Listen to real musician and yourself.

[@KyleSG88]

Awesome riff and video. The 80s and the 65s sounded great as they have less fizz and a great clarity with them that you dont get in the others. For me the worst was the 75!

[@keithspillett7312]

Amazing. I wouldn't be grossly offended by ANY of these drivers, to be honest, but I liked the Marshall one, and the one that followed it particularly.

[@thelolguy007]

You the man Johan 👏👏👏👌

[@cdemike7517]

Great demo and great playing as always! I was wondering if you'd be able to speak to why the '71 and '74 G12H sound so different despite both having T1217 cones. They sound so different!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Mike, the 74 is probably played much harder throughout the years and has lost more of its dynamics

[@MrMudEagle]

The first speaker takes the cake. But I love the midrange of the 80 G12 65

[@BreweryMaster]

Goodness. That 83' with the bass cone though.