Could Taiwan Survive A Fourth Strike By China? (WarGames 1d) | DCS

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0:40 DAY 3 Re-Cap
2:43 Global Overview
3:57 DAY 3 VV Feedback
8:31 DAY 3 BDA
10:29 Taiwan Inventory
11:21 DAY 4 Overview
15:18 DAY 4 Detail
28:18 Humans, Tactics & Predictions
32:15 FIGHT!
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@cassius_eu5970
@cassius_eu5970 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cap, I think a video series about technical patch reviews could be quite popular. It seems like with the latest patch, a lot of stuff like audio and explosions have been improved, and a short video summary about these aspects of patches might interest viewers. :)
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
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@TheGeneral308
@TheGeneral308 2 жыл бұрын
@Kirk Wolfe They would air refuel on the way.
@TheGeneral308
@TheGeneral308 2 жыл бұрын
@Kirk Wolfe The thing is now the USA has the Raptors and what remains of the naval planes. What you would most likely see is one of two things. The USA Launch a counter strike on the Chineese carrier groups. They could use tactical bombers to reinforce the carrier attack groups. Or you see a strike from the USA with the Stealths taking out the SAM sites with the B1 and B2s behind them to destroy the bomber groups. Honestly this is what the bombers should have done this game.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers The F-22 finally has The JHMCS! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHzLpJWAl9OYhZo Although a small amount of Raptors have already been using The Scorpion, JHMCS is a step up as all F-22's are to be fitted!
@TheGeneral308
@TheGeneral308 2 жыл бұрын
@Kirk Wolfe But that is the thing they don't land they take of from Shreveport and go anywere they need to and refull in the air that is the way they plan to use them.
@Uselessnoobcow
@Uselessnoobcow 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best series on KZbin, huge respect to all the effort you and the guys put into this Cap!
@smokinamron5943
@smokinamron5943 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed and well said
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@PhoenixT70
@PhoenixT70 2 жыл бұрын
Human error example: the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. It was a comedy of errors from start to finish. First, the US cruiser squadron (plus HMAS _Canberra)_ did not consider Japanese night attacks a threat, when the Japanese were deadly when the sun went down. Then, when the action kicked off, the first cruiser picket engaged held their fire for several minutes under the erroneous belief they were suffering friendly fire. The result was the near-annihilation of the cruiser force.
@Decrepit_biker
@Decrepit_biker 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest this example. Or the entire journey of the Russian 2nd Pacific squadron in the Russo-japan war of 1905ish
@PhoenixT70
@PhoenixT70 2 жыл бұрын
@@Decrepit_biker Ah, the Pacific Derp Squadron. Always a hoot to hear about them.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@Decrepit_biker
@Decrepit_biker 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixT70 absolutely. Drachininfel did a great video about them on his channel. If it was a film you wouldn't believe it......
@PhoenixT70
@PhoenixT70 2 жыл бұрын
@@Decrepit_biker I watched Potential History’s on it, but I’ll have to look for that one now. Thanks for mentioning it!
@Chapter-cz6ct
@Chapter-cz6ct 2 жыл бұрын
For this series, I think that the "would Taiwan survive" part is over. It held, but China wouldn't call it quits just like that, it couldn't afford to. If you were to keep the series going it would have to be a more global conflict, a WW3 if you will. But either way, great job on what you've done so far, guys!
@RevanRA
@RevanRA 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. Though considering the recent post, not sure what we will get in terms of this now. Flawless War Gamer does bring this on a more global scale, however, in a more cinematic way in Arma 3. Not to take viewers away from the Grim Reapers as I watch both respectively. :)
@martinpalmer6203
@martinpalmer6203 2 жыл бұрын
except that was just a tiny fraction of the firepower China could and would bring to the fight
@krismurphy7711
@krismurphy7711 2 жыл бұрын
If China does/did this they would use Powell Doctrine.....USE EVERYTHING AND GET IT OVER WITH....OVERWHELMING POWER.
@mwtrolle
@mwtrolle 2 жыл бұрын
Though the PRC would be losing really quickly, they simply have no way of securing their merchant fleet, they would be sunk or captured fast. The PRC simply can import what they need to stay in a modern war in the numbers needed. They would lag fuel, food and after some time they would lag raw materials to build military equipment to replace what they had used or lost.
@LyuChen94
@LyuChen94 2 жыл бұрын
afterall,this series going so wrong fron the beginning, well this would not be the reality.
@clivereid
@clivereid 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly Cap, can I just add my "thanks" to the pile for the massive amount of work you've put into this. Just a few thoughts off the top of my head: - If this war kicks off IRL, I'd expect it to begin with an absolutely gigantic ballistic and cruise missile strike on Taiwan. I know we only have Scuds for ballistic missiles in DCS but couldn't you just substitute them for extra rounds of cruise missile strikes? - Because the Taiwanese obviously know that, they have a lot of underground facilities and spread their aircraft & equipment around. They can also apparently operate aircraft from austere airfields. - AEGIS ships (and probably the Chinese stuff too) would have to return to port to replenish their missiles. The way they've been spamming them in this series, they would've run out on the second day. - We're completely missing the electronic warfare side of things (e.g. jamming aircraft like the EA-18 Growler or J-16D, Nulka missile decoys on US Navy ships etc. etc.). That would surely limit the effectiveness of things like air defenses and the longer range missiles. Maybe engagement ranges for SAMs could be adjusted using trigger zones to compensate?
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
Irl ECM effectiveness is very largely speculative, so it's basically impossible to apply it fairly. Also something that is really missing is that the PLA and PLAAF as an extension wouldn't fly a single mission per day. It would still take days for Western support to arrive, but China would no doubt attack ceaselessly throughout the day and night.
@staubsauger2305
@staubsauger2305 2 жыл бұрын
@@92HazelMocha Modern aircraft can't sustain a lot of repeated flights without maintenance as the gripe rate goes way up. China can't send a lot of small flights as Taiwan is too well defended and hardened (it has a lot of mountains in the interior, with bases). China has to send large raids to be effective, just as here. Only when allied defences are down can smaller, more frequent raids be conducted.
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
@@staubsauger2305 In the context of this sim, China only sends a small faction of its available aircraft. They wouldn't be flying non-stop sorties due to the abundance of unused aircraft. They certainly wouldn't wait until NATO forces arrived to launch massive air raids. And all this is is saying nothing of the PLA itself, which for obvious reasons doesn't have the same limitations.
@HauntedXXXPancake
@HauntedXXXPancake 2 жыл бұрын
Fair point about the missile strikes, but on the other hand, in an irl war, the Americans would probably bring in cruise missile submarines (SSGN) and since they're not in the game, it's only reasonable the PLA also doesn't have that option.
@clivereid
@clivereid 2 жыл бұрын
​@@92HazelMocha You're right that ECM effectiveness is speculative but I think we can safely assume there'd be so much Electronic Warfare going on, certainly once the US arrived, that everybody's long range systems would be degraded.
@mikesmith-wk7vy
@mikesmith-wk7vy 2 жыл бұрын
don't count those last losses on the b2's they would head back immediately after firing , they would not keep going towards the enemy empty and useless
@rickjames18
@rickjames18 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a bug/silly mistake no real pilot would ever make in war. Plus, the F-22s with the Aim-120 D never even showed up, so how were they lost? PL-15s are OP as they chase the allies for 100s of miles and almost never miss. 1 PLAA jet magically dodges missile after missile soaking them up like a black hole. but zero AIM-120Ds have been shot yet which isn't Grims fault but I do wish they had been added earlier. Either way, this is a ton of work and in no way am I chastising Grim.
@romansmirnov961
@romansmirnov961 2 жыл бұрын
Also they wouldnt be totally invisible to radar
@btratemylegs.6342
@btratemylegs.6342 2 жыл бұрын
-999,999,999 social credit
@adielkim314
@adielkim314 2 жыл бұрын
Zhong Xina
@nekomakhea9440
@nekomakhea9440 2 жыл бұрын
As an "in universe" explanation for all the AI bugging out on both sides, you could call it a "successful cyber attack" that partially crippled that unit's systems lol Or just "equipment or training failure"
@PhoenixT70
@PhoenixT70 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it would honestly be weird if everything worked exactly right. Murphy is a cruel man.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@anandmorris
@anandmorris 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixT70 haha! I still have a t-shirt with murphy's law wriiten on it i picked up from an airshow when i was 17. I am 39 now!
@Owen-fn8ff
@Owen-fn8ff 2 жыл бұрын
Examples from history: The radar controller at Pearl Harbour, some time before the attack, who thought the Japanese on his display was a flight of B17s
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
Thats really rough.
@jyralnadreth4442
@jyralnadreth4442 2 жыл бұрын
The Radar Controller called the contacts in...their direct CO made the judgement that it was the B17s
@atomicgom8084
@atomicgom8084 2 жыл бұрын
When I first found this channel was when you did the first carrier attack thing and I absolutely fell in love with it and I absolutely love where this channel is headed and what is it has evolved to. Thank you so much for creating this content it’s just hard to express in words how much I absolutely love this channel please keep up the good work and thank you so much
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@calmterror
@calmterror 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say air frame losses are not that important here for Taiwan as they are for china. The US would have airlifted replacement f-16 and f-5 and maybe even some f-15. As they did the last times PRC and ROC had their Taiwan Straits crisis and as they did for Israel during The Yom Kippur war. same with SAM systems would take what 3 days to move all that into place. The big issue is pilots. THE BDA needs to count how many pilots ejected safely for the ROC and how many PRC pilots are either dead in the water or are POW. remember Airframes are easy to replace Pilots are not.
@trevynlane8094
@trevynlane8094 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Pilots take the better part of a year to train, while a plane can be replaced in a week. (Including building and shipping)
@Neugo
@Neugo 2 жыл бұрын
If you want another example of a small blunder that changed the course of a war... Midway would be a great example. The japanese decided to change the loadout of the bombers when they were going to take off for the landbase, and then recieved news on the US carriers. Thats when the US dive bombers hit the carriers, and essentially all the ordinance that was on the deck caused chain reactions and only a few bombs ended up killing the 3 carriers that were hit.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@blahblah14u
@blahblah14u 2 жыл бұрын
Kortana is deadly! Well played everyone! Love your channel! Thank you!
@KortanaDCS
@KortanaDCS 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🙂
@TheBKnight3
@TheBKnight3 2 жыл бұрын
@@KortanaDCS Do you have a fanpage?
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
@@KortanaDCS Miss the Kortana-cam from the previous entry, and congrats on going competitive, would like to see more of your flying, really gives scrubs like me hope.
@anandmorris
@anandmorris 2 жыл бұрын
Might turn out to be a rl fighter pilot at this rate.
@samanders2676
@samanders2676 2 жыл бұрын
47:52 - 48:04 Cap: “where are the Raptohrs!? I can’t see any of them...they are so invisible they are gone!” I’m dying here. 😂
@redssracer4153
@redssracer4153 2 жыл бұрын
Great series of DCS battles Cap!! I can't imagine the amount of effort it took to put this together... 👍👍 I like how you take in and implement, or at least talk about, the Valued Viewer's input. I enjoyed your play-by-play commentary...👍😊 And I even liked the "small touches" (the Jericho Trumpet sound) for the anti-ship missiles...😏😁🤣
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
xx
@CreedAssassinGir
@CreedAssassinGir 2 жыл бұрын
You popped up on my list a while ago, and I kept watching simply because you called me a valued viewer. Wasn't even a big fan of fighter planes and stuff like that, know I'm looking forward to all your new videos. Thanks for the koality content man!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@bigmatthews666
@bigmatthews666 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf really
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always, easily the best series on YT, although I will note that irl 120D's have a range of 160km not 160nm, but thats an issue for the mod makers. Also 100% want to see the naval battles that aren't taking place here.
@996driver1
@996driver1 2 жыл бұрын
Addicted...I watched all 4 of the series. Outstanding work team! Thank you, Scott
@richardstatham3715
@richardstatham3715 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if its been mentioned before, and afaik theres no way to model in DCS but US and Chinese attack subs would be a very significant factor in how the fleets have been deploying and there would have been inevitable shipping losses
@staubsauger2305
@staubsauger2305 2 жыл бұрын
Subs plus mines. As long as the allies are able to sew mines in the Formosa Strait then China has zero chance of an amphibious invasion being sustained long enough to be successful. Germany in 1940/41 had the same problem with Britain, over a much smaller distance (even though Britain's land defences were weak, although the Royal Navy remained strong).
@andrewfox96
@andrewfox96 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. If the way cap has the Chinese carrier in the open ocean. It would be a juicy target for American submarine fleet. And mostly get wiped off the map before it becomes a threat to the us 7th fleet. Granted you can’t model it in DCS.
@christophero55
@christophero55 2 жыл бұрын
Subs in DCS don't work. They can't do more than just sit there.
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Just wow. Good job Cap, massive effort.
@roentgen571
@roentgen571 2 жыл бұрын
lol... the limits of the modern wargames are being stumped by the real life secret capabilities of the units involved. And some of the public wargames are hampered by the capacity of the available game servers. Just imagine the fun the navy/air force guys have with unlimited server capacity and truly realistic unit capability.
@theweed3800
@theweed3800 2 жыл бұрын
Another thanks and happy Holidays :)
@trottheblackdog
@trottheblackdog 2 жыл бұрын
Cap we appreciate all the hard work you're putting in! Top shelf missions
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@thereclaimer2945
@thereclaimer2945 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing and very interesting vid Cap!
@thereclaimer2945
@thereclaimer2945 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t get over how amazing the jets in DCS sound! 37:28 I guess I just love hearing the sounds of jets. 😂
@suiinside
@suiinside 2 жыл бұрын
my question is how many SM-2 are in stock and available ... 4 days of sm2 should be kinda killing the stock ....
@edwinchavez1765
@edwinchavez1765 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh, but they are not shooting SM6 and SM3
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
sadly I have no way of modelled that :( they get all their missiles back at the beginning of each mission.
@suiinside
@suiinside 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers i thought as much, but since you are counting aim 120 stocks then should it not be fair to count sm2 ? no biggie if you can not get it worked out, just an observation ... love the series !
@Commissar0617
@Commissar0617 2 жыл бұрын
realistically, the US would fly in c-5's full of em. then they reload at the taiwanese ports, or do at sea replen
@signore1
@signore1 2 жыл бұрын
If you are gonna ask that question, you have to ask how many missiles the Chinese would have left. They have fired hundreds of anti ship missiles and pl-15s at this point. Chinese have a large budget but cant hope to out produce the US in missile stock.
@PLACEonPLATE
@PLACEonPLATE 2 жыл бұрын
For a split second I thought the title read "Could Shania Twain Survive a Fourth Strike by China".
@paralaksa78
@paralaksa78 2 жыл бұрын
That Don't Impress Me Much...
@angelarch5352
@angelarch5352 2 жыл бұрын
So fun to watch this, amazing!!! :D
@bobnaruto123
@bobnaruto123 2 жыл бұрын
i would like to see the carrier battles before you end this series
@jeremyparker9749
@jeremyparker9749 2 жыл бұрын
Loving these wargames cap, thank you for putting so much effort into it ❤
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@williammontpirg4080
@williammontpirg4080 2 жыл бұрын
Please keep this series going!
@jojorice1705
@jojorice1705 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos in my face. Long live Simba. Long live Cortana. -A valued viewer
@2lost2worry
@2lost2worry 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah!!!! been waiting for this.. thanks guys :)... having now watched a great episode ( thanks again!!, beers are on me! ), would love to see the fleet on fleet actions resolved then see them reinforce the main battle and maybe try to gain the initiative with a massive Tomahawk strike on PLA assets ( couldn't they launch from B52's from well outside of PLA air defence range ?) thanks again !! :)
@blainesitter9110
@blainesitter9110 2 жыл бұрын
ALCM can launch from 1500 miles , subsonic flight time is 2.5 hrs after release . Can be reprogramed in flight
@harveycasey1900
@harveycasey1900 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I fast forward this until the engagement. The moment at 52:50 into this was very awesome!
@RobertReg1
@RobertReg1 2 жыл бұрын
Kortana sounds smart
@BlueGroove7
@BlueGroove7 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite channels
@cassius_eu5970
@cassius_eu5970 2 жыл бұрын
I like Damp Sock, he seems very chill. :)
@edwinchavez1765
@edwinchavez1765 2 жыл бұрын
I think an interception of the Russian fleet by Japanese coastal missiles would be interesting to watch, in addition to the naval battles. This is an incredible content
@veleriphon
@veleriphon 2 жыл бұрын
When the Missouri and her group were on their way "out" of firing for the day during Desert Storm. The CWIS on one of the destroyers fired on a missile, and on Missouri's chaffe/flares.
@frankxu2321
@frankxu2321 2 жыл бұрын
Can't take my eyes off the war game! Great job Grim Reaper! What a costly exchange on both sides! I'd say Beijing will do a last stand, utilize its carrier and rest of the fleet, combine with the air force from two half-operational air fields, try to wipe out seventh fleet for a batter peace talk position. So yes, please do a carrier fight at last! If PLA wins it is a draw (peace talk), otherwise Beijing is defeated.
@rickjames18
@rickjames18 2 жыл бұрын
He could but the issue is the PLAN carrier jets can only carry very limited fuel and armament.
@hemendraravi4787
@hemendraravi4787 2 жыл бұрын
Finally I love this series .l can’t wait for the next one , I can only imagine running dcs on my laptop lmao
@mwink71
@mwink71 2 жыл бұрын
Very very nice Video, greetings from Germany
@patricktracy4371
@patricktracy4371 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, watching. The Buff's would have dropped their first loads already.
@rgj5832
@rgj5832 2 жыл бұрын
This is a awesome series so thank you! Only thing I wish DCS had was the SM-6 American anti air missiles the latest in the Ageis system. As what I can tell these are built to counter the new super sonic and hypersonic anti ship missiles. The SM-2 although a great missle just is out classed by the new high speed stuff. Is kinda depressing until I realized the SM-6 was designed and is now deployed in decent numbers.
@Tyler5346812
@Tyler5346812 2 жыл бұрын
I'm probably jumping the gun but dod the uh60s have any anti ship missiles? Also if everyone is fine with it would you be willing to extrapolate losses for the total of air forces losses to there totals?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
I think they were the old SH-60 choppers?
@blvp2145
@blvp2145 2 жыл бұрын
You really are one hell of a GM Grim.
@hplefler9401
@hplefler9401 Жыл бұрын
Just found this... 8 months too late... Absolutely LOVE all the work you put in! these campaign simulations are AMAZING (hint hint Red Storm Rising hint hint)! Loved the general areal battle but it occurs to me, Damp could only find the Spirits using his optical tracker. Would this have worked at night? (Also, I'm pretty sure the USAF is NEVER going to put up a B2 strike with a daylight TOT). Also, the CCP may have tried to achieve strategic surprise by moving their carrier away from their coast and using only aircraft in the Eastern region but, once hostilities commenced (and certainly once they took the losses that they did) they would have surged aircraft/missiles/whatever from all the other military districts. ESPECIALLY once Japan and the US got involved. Sucks that there are no subs in DCS because US/UK subs would DEFINITELY be involved (although I don't know for sure if the standard load out on an American SSN includes TLAMs or if they would have to return to port in order to be loaded). Additionally, I'm not sure that the USAF/USN would try to conduct a limited objective strike with the objective of destroying the PLAAF airfields from which strike aircraft are launching or conducting strikes on the CCP's deep water ports in order to force the CCP to cease hostilities or face starvation both physical and economic.
@lazyman7505
@lazyman7505 2 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable series, thank you. Wish it was set up in a more more realistic way, mainly on strategic level. For example not getting your forces defeated in detail by sending them individually (like those 2 anti-shipping strikes in this video). But I don't think DCS would be able to handle so much action all at once.
@xXJAKMACKXx
@xXJAKMACKXx 2 жыл бұрын
3 weeks and counting waiting for day 6. A man can dream
@Nikhilsj33
@Nikhilsj33 2 жыл бұрын
That J16 Vs Kortana was one hell of a fight lol
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Immortal J-16 vs Kortana nice match up
@DidyshishBaishushish
@DidyshishBaishushish 2 жыл бұрын
The main thing is that China mainland will never be attacked, especially by forces other than Taiwan's, as it will mean declaration of war between China and that other force. All actions will be strictly defensive - e.g. if a plane enters Taiwan airspace or launches missile into it, it will be shot down, but there will be no attacks on Chinese airfields or ships. If US positions a fleet to protect the island from incoming missiles, Chinese will also be careful not to attack these ships directly.
@anandmorris
@anandmorris 2 жыл бұрын
Ch1na would just drop another virus into the US mainland and claim in came from a wetmarket 🤣🤣🤣
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 2 жыл бұрын
well considering the chinese and russian carriers are making their way to the battle, theres at least one or two more good battles left in this series. Also, im wondering why type054 frigates weren;t used. they should have been the corvettes in the PLA fleet.
@martinpalmer6203
@martinpalmer6203 2 жыл бұрын
the russians would possibly attack mainland USA using their other assets tbh
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinpalmer6203 realistically they'd make a move on Ukraine or the baltic states rather than try to attack the US mainland, they'd get very little out of it even if they succeed.
@martinpalmer6203
@martinpalmer6203 2 жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus2760 Bombing infrastructure and factories isn't nothing
@ezekielmauricio5209
@ezekielmauricio5209 Жыл бұрын
Hey Cap(or anyone), What kind of server or computer power do you need for a simulation like this? Interested and have some $$ to spend.
@hankwebb3891
@hankwebb3891 2 жыл бұрын
The fight comes down to the 2 carrier group battles now. If China can win one of these, then it can pincer Taiwan and continue the assault. If it loses both battles, it's over. If it defeats both, then China might win the war. If it defeats one, and damages the other group, then the fight is on.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Thanks Cap!!😁👍👍 Lol my UH-1H'S did a lot more damage than I thought! Good news like I said plenty more where they came from ;)
@PATRK55
@PATRK55 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting!
@John_SlideRule_Bullay
@John_SlideRule_Bullay 2 ай бұрын
If the Raptors had arrived, would they have made a difference? Great battle Cap!
@Slaphappy1975
@Slaphappy1975 2 жыл бұрын
A truly spectacular series to watch. Will you do more of these interactive campaigns or is the effort just not worth the views? Either way, thanks for this!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
YT censored the entire GR channel for making this campaign, I am now scared to make any more.
@Slaphappy1975
@Slaphappy1975 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers That's awful. However, i think what was most amazing about this series can be replicated. It's the carry over from the previous day, the sense that what you did the day before has an impact on how today begins.
@mikegarwood8680
@mikegarwood8680 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Did they give you a reason why or do they just do it because they feel like it?
@TheGeneral308
@TheGeneral308 2 жыл бұрын
Also why every time you do a senerio with bombers and fighters you have the Fighters behind the bombers. Wouldn't the faster fighter cover be out in front?
@dagongshow
@dagongshow 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing play through. I’m just imagining how this entire exchange would be altered if nuclear subs were involved . 🤔
@sparty837
@sparty837 2 жыл бұрын
What about the US assets in S. Korea, then what about India jumping in, they have a land conflict with China today?
@rounaksingh409
@rounaksingh409 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Cap, this day was very well planned and executed kudos for that. Also after this day as all majority of airfields are non operational for 24 hours there won't be any bombers flying the next day from the bomber airfields as they have landed before the attack on runways and are now stuck there. PLAN ships some of whom are lost will now be virtually without air cover from the fighters from the airfields. This also should be taken into consideration that there would be a very limited if at all Chinese air activity from this region due to air fields being non operational and if there are any fighters stationed there they would be stuck till repairs are done and are basically sitting ducks same with the H6 bombers. So basically on the next day PLAN ships would face heavy anti shipping attacks against them and that too without anyone intercepting their attackers. Day 5 should have heavy ground attacks on Chinese SAM sites as well as repeated attacks against aircraft / aircraft hangers / aircraft bunkers on the airfields. If you simulate Chinese air activity they would have to fly far distance from another theatre to cover our area of interest. Also at this point Taiwan and it's allies would have to replenish the Air Power of the Island by basically converging their fighters from nearby bases to be rebased at Taiwan. Also maybe a sub part of this War Scenario would be the battle between carrier groups. Here I think the Blue side would have upper hand as they have F-35s vs non stealth chinese aircraft.
@nonope4390
@nonope4390 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy hypothetical DCS China fights to the last man!
@lordsqueak
@lordsqueak 2 жыл бұрын
Q: how does a cruiser reload their sm2's etc ? by sea cow or,, do they have to go into port for that?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
They just re-appear at beginning of mission.
@lordsqueak
@lordsqueak 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers I mean,, yes, that. But I was thinking for realism in a campaign like this, would they have to return to port or can they rearm at sea?
@strambino1
@strambino1 2 жыл бұрын
For the purpose of the simulation, Ticonderoga can be used to simulate the the Kidd class. In game the Ticonderoga carries 62 SM2, the Kidd in real life caries 68. The Kidd and the Ticonderoga are built on the same frame just like the Kidd and Spruance.
@emanuelrivera7226
@emanuelrivera7226 2 жыл бұрын
Patreon to keep this going!!!!! Power to the people!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the great work!
@thechad1905
@thechad1905 2 жыл бұрын
I think that damaged the F16 was from the RIAT air show that made an emergency landing. They really need to step up there repair game.
@johnwycough1955
@johnwycough1955 8 ай бұрын
That J-10 is a damn good looking aircraft.
@AntiOnYT
@AntiOnYT 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel! Keep doing what you are doing. Can’t wait to dig into this one 😁 My money is on China suing for peace at this point. Taiwan still loses anyway though.. losing their entire Air Force and all 😅
@merlinbarlow
@merlinbarlow 2 жыл бұрын
Cap is there a way to make a cruiser untargetable and launch missile strikes from it to simulate a submarine strike.
@mrlodwick
@mrlodwick 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding - Thank you all.
@christianmaas8934
@christianmaas8934 2 жыл бұрын
The distance from the west coast of Taiwan to China is the same as Cyprus to Syria. This is a pretty good simulation
@IronChefNC
@IronChefNC 2 жыл бұрын
Totally enjoyed this, reminded me of the old game harpoon. I also think the naval cruisers/destroyers would have lobbed tomahawk as well, dont know if dcs allows that. I think the Chinese "maverick" made it more interesting.
@bearcatracing007
@bearcatracing007 2 жыл бұрын
Need to point out something: No cows where harmed during this fight unfortunately..... The cows now have taken and are now armed with the missing F-22 Raptors...... Is Kortana single? Um Moooo
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
cows have the raptors??
@michaelmurray9232
@michaelmurray9232 Жыл бұрын
You know I used to give you shit for talking a lot... I want to apologize. You guys put a lot of effort into this stuff and I really enjoy watching it. I think you do your best to give us the closest to close outcomes That would be available.. I do tend to fast forward it through the technical jargon as my knowledge is so laymates That it's way beyond my comprehension... I am thoroughly impressed with your guys's knowledge of aircraft and weapons systems it is impressive. So keep it up, I take back what I said I actually like your commentary the more I listen. I have subsbribed and liked every video I can see. So keep up the good work fellas. 👏 Seacrest out 🤘✌️
@DeetexSeraphine
@DeetexSeraphine Жыл бұрын
"It's a random AWACS"... "Oooh ♡" Awesome
@mattweleber9845
@mattweleber9845 Жыл бұрын
Can you operate from the point of view of a soldier in these games? Just a question from a curious newbie. I've never seen these games before, they're awesome.
@brianpullin683
@brianpullin683 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as always. Just an idea for future campaigns. Modern aircraft types against simulated ww2 German air defence i.e. range finders, radar, fighters and ( en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flak_tower ) flak towers ( these can be set out on the ground ) defending a target or targets. Or take parts of the idea a do your thing with it 👍
@whousley
@whousley 2 жыл бұрын
1:06 was almost like I'm Tom Clancy's Red Dawn where Russian Backfire bombers were clobbered on the runway by tomahawk missiles during their turnaround.
@Kaelland
@Kaelland 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I've noticed is that you kept saying that the surviving American LHA would be useless. But American LHAs carry some quantity of fixed wing aircraft (Harriers and/or F-35s, depending on timeline) and a mix of helicopters, including combat capable helicopters. The helicopters and some of the fighters would probably be predominantly used in support of a landing force and/or ASW duty, but some of the fixed wing assets could be used for either CAP or anti-shipping.
@andyf4292
@andyf4292 2 жыл бұрын
do they not have proximity fused shells?
@floridahdshooter
@floridahdshooter 2 жыл бұрын
Great Series, have watched them all, great work. Would the addition of B2s in theater raise the concern of nuclear escalation to the chinese (question mark). How would the chinese know they were carrying conventional munitions?
@bawalmagisip1
@bawalmagisip1 Жыл бұрын
China has a no-first-use policy re Nukes.
@Kabal818
@Kabal818 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic war game! Sad we didn’t get to see the F-22’s engage. I think this should continue where it leaves off. China makes a final push. Have additional US and allied assets on sight. Love this series!
@Madeyes6
@Madeyes6 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t the charge of the light brigade human error?
@loanuniverse
@loanuniverse 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with this being the best example. Sending the cavalry on a frontal attack into overwhelming artillery due to a miscommunication about the right target.
@lostsoul4680
@lostsoul4680 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the story on cpu on this ? Can we boost it? Or help at all?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
If you interested plz contact me direct in Discord. trying to figure out exactly that the bottleneck is still.
@raykrv6a
@raykrv6a 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on what your server is configured as? Memory, MIPS, etc.
@bobm4623
@bobm4623 2 жыл бұрын
2:20 Even if airbases get destroyed, Taiwan has been practicing with highways as runways. Yes, there airforce would be degraded, but it doesn't mean they are out for the count. And of course, there are VTOLs available.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Agree but I can not simulate this.
@sondrax
@sondrax 10 ай бұрын
Love your channel! (But IF a serious mistake shifted the totality on day 3… why not redo day 3 as opposed to continuing along a mythical scenario? I know! It’s all mythical… but I would have loved seeing a more likely scenario…
@paulallen8597
@paulallen8597 Жыл бұрын
I realize this is old, but there were some things mussing in it and today things have changed from almost a year ago. I love these videos, even if things don't work as planned or when you're limited by the capabilities of DCS. (Note that everything I'm about to say is in the public domain as information released by the US government regarding NATO/US capabilities.) First NATO and especially the US have EW aircraft of various types capable of jamming Chinese radar (including on carriers). Since we don't know how good our jamming is, and how bad the Chinese radar is, it's hard to say how effective the jamming would be. I would have to say that thus far, in the history of US/NATO warfare, our systems have been better than anyone thought and our adversaries far weaker than we expected. The SM-2 is older and being augmented with the new system since 2013. We have been outfitting the fleet with the SM-6 - longer range, multi-purpose, better seekers, GPS guided optional. As well, our radars have been upgraded (with more upgrades coming) not only on our ships, but our planes. As well, all of our ships with VLS launchers may have cruise missiles loaded in some of the launchers. How many would be determined by the mission of the battle group and the particular ship. we are also now deploying improved cruise missiles in the fleet that have better evasion as well as longer range. I know you said the concept was that the attack was a surprise. That said while there may only be 1 US carrier group in the area at the time, the US would immediately send two more. Note that once a battle group uses it's missiles, it must return to a port for reloading the VLS launchers. Depending on the port they have to sail to, this could put that battle group out of action for a month. For this reason, the US would have to send 2 more carrier groups immediately (one to replace the first one that was used up even if the carrier was not lost, the other for use when that one is used up), and begin to resupply bases in the area with additional missiles. (We'll assume NATO has an unlimited supply of missiles in their stockpiles to make things simpler.) Some of our ships have had CWIS replaced by rolling missile systems as well. These are more effective than CWIS. As for today (Oct 2022), we have a new carrier deployed in the Atlantic which has increased the fleet by one carrier group. More ships and planes have been upgraded and we are now hearing about HELIOS LASER systems being fitted onto US destroyers (We are actually about to test one in an AC-130 according to an article I read just this past week or so. A final note. It's too bad the DCS AI is so troublesome as it lacks some realism that would make these fights much better. For example - plane actually going where told and not flying straight into a swarm of death and instead doing more to evade. That's what we get to deal with though. :) I also wonder why they would not have China and Taiwan already modeled. That seems like a no-brainer.
@mwtrolle
@mwtrolle 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the B'2 would probably operate from Guam as the shorter distance would allow more missions. What about the B-1B's operating from Guam and the B-52's with super long-range cruise missiles?
@mwtrolle
@mwtrolle 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, you came on to that. Guess it's a game problem. Also that why you sed so many B-2's don't think the US would use 8 at a time.
@bobshelton37
@bobshelton37 2 жыл бұрын
The unstoppable aircraft that Cortana keeps encountering must be a bit like the unstoppable resurrected imp in Doom. Can't be killed, walks through walls and solid objects and just keeps coming for you.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
lol I remember!
@bobshelton37
@bobshelton37 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers That imp is probably flying the plane. After 30 years since Doom came out the ghost imp has found a new vocation.
@romakrelian
@romakrelian 2 жыл бұрын
They say that the Confederates lost the US battle of Gettysburg because of a single wooden fence that got in the way of advancing Confederate troops. (In response to Cap talking about one little error affecting the entire day 3)
@RobertReg1
@RobertReg1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, crazy how one person, decision or thing changes flow
@Aardvark892
@Aardvark892 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a quality XB-70 mod. I'd make it myself, but I have no idea where even to start something like that.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@ryangarrett9433
@ryangarrett9433 2 жыл бұрын
Since that hj6 squadron landed at a base that was subsequently destroyed, will you be counting those bombers as out of play until that specific base is repaired?
@christophero55
@christophero55 2 жыл бұрын
I hope not. They only landed there because of DCS. Those are long range bombers they would have launched their mission from a base much further away and returned to the same base.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly not sure. Need to study the track file better to see exactly that happened.
@AllTradesGeorge
@AllTradesGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda sad to see this series discontinued...while I don't think it's creating a really plausible scenario, it is a fascinating exercise in 'what if...' That said, the comments about the US having F-22s stationed in Guam leads me to wonder what the US troops stationed on Okinawa and in South Korea would be doing during all of this...I don't think there's any way that this would go to four days before US forces intervened in large numbers, and not just the carrier group near the China Sea.
@aristoclesathenaioi4939
@aristoclesathenaioi4939 2 жыл бұрын
The failure of the cruise missile launch against the picket could have resulted from incorrect targeting data provided the cruise missiles, especially if the cruise missiles were configured as ground to ground. The PLA may have expected the US to hold back to avoid a direct confrontation, and that would mean that the cruise missiles would have a clear shot at targets on the ground. The PLA might also have expected an absence of war ships because protecting the carrier would slow them down, and prevent deployment as pickets. Counterintuitively, taking the carrier out of commission gave that naval strike group more flexibility than the PLA Navy would expect; hence, the cruise missiles had targeting data to strike ground targets on Taiwan.
@GalaxyCat001
@GalaxyCat001 2 жыл бұрын
Right, that settles it, I'm going to do my PhD in Defense Studies based of your videos.
@robbyod
@robbyod 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robbyod
@robbyod 2 жыл бұрын
given that this was demonitised, I hope you can still receive it, maybe this is another way around it!?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert, no idea to be honest!
@mikesmith-wk7vy
@mikesmith-wk7vy 2 жыл бұрын
it would need to be human piloted but the b52 can fire very long range standoff weapons and the b1 can ground follow at 1.5 mach with a 1.6 meter (semi-stealth) radar cross section , so they would be decently useful in real life
@anandmorris
@anandmorris 2 жыл бұрын
@@aftech2148 i genuinely don't think Russia would get involved. I do believe Russia need western trade more than china. And north korea are a joke.
@xapemanx
@xapemanx 2 жыл бұрын
the biggest error I can think of off the top of my head is not sending the 4th wave during Pearl Harbor. but it was a fog of war type call and the Japaneses didn't know how the battle was going, if it was going how they were expecting it would have been good but the targets for the 4th wave would have gave them such a large advantage in the pacific because the 4th wave's targets were the pacific fuel depots. and if successful would have put the pacific supply-chain behind by 4 months. That's one example of tactic change in a mission plan that had a very large macro scale impact on the campaign.
@anthonywells3088
@anthonywells3088 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet or not, but the B2 would only do an attack at night, so they couldn't be spotted visually.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
agree
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