Crazy Debate Turns Into HEATED Personal Confrontation...

[@destiny]

CONTEXT VIDEO THAT INSTIGATED THIS CONFRONTATION▼ SHE'S DANGEROUS - Why He HATES Lauren Southern And Brittany ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGGVnaOLg6iKga8

[@wisemage0]

So if I'm a 1 and I become homeless and get addicted to drugs, would that promote me to a 2?

[@chrisb2409]

What's the game Destiny is playing

[@RBGHfam]

Couldn't people make the same accusation towards Max, that his trans takes are possibly hurting people without evidence? Dan, seems like a boring know it all.

[@headoh8558]

@@chrisb2409 factorio, on steam, costs 40 bucks CAD

[@ErgonomicChair]

I like how every word StarDust says just ruins any fucking conversation.

[@sarinat3101]

This is a brilliant tactic by Destiny to soft-counter the misogyny content, bringing on multiple women who all hate each other so chat can't focus itself on hating them all. He probably understands this so well because he has a girl's name.

[@duckh0le859]

lmao

[@stopmathrage]

Did I just read an AI trying to learn to be a DGGer?

[@Soliprem]

Gg. Take my like

[@TheBasedUchiha]

What are you doing on the internet? Your man really needs to get you in line

[@dasdean8486]

good one

[@anthonybucyk6513]

"LAV is so sexist she talks over herself" is my favorite line of the debate so far.

[@RedrumZombies]

When? I seem to missed it.

[@m.czandogg9576]

@@RedrumZombies I gotchu, fam. 1:03:35

[@abzeromusic]

That joke about the poodle had me rolling on the floor

[@Jeulemonger.]

The greatest gaslight of all time, he cut her off just to say that😭😭😭

[@justthedon1792]

Genius Joke

[@rnilkrnaamrn]

how did dan create the most annoying panel ever. absolute genius

[@env0x]

Just needed to add sneako to this panel and it would've been complete

[@Stefan0os]

@@env0x dropping sneako in would have made this an absolute disaster and there's no excuse for that missed opportunity

[@Nutbag517]

Dan is an evil genius. Love that guy

[@Nutbag517]

@@CoomerGremlinDGGfan Yes. He's perfect just the way he is

[@Blank9458]

@@CoomerGremlinDGGfan you don’t like Dan? That’s strange

[@levelfift33n]

"together we have some of the brightest minds of twitch in one room" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dan is pure comedy, he couldnt even say that with a straight face lmao

[@killer3000ad]

Brittany: I am not a life coach. Later she proceeds to describe what she does which is exactly what a life coach does.

[@theprofesionalist7927]

TBF Lav already lost the debate once she let getting called a 2 get to her, that's Y she went into personal attack mode for the rest of the debate. Max was trying to warn her cuz that how he lost to Britany (he got called a 1), but she just wouldn't listen to him.

[@jasonthomas9319]

Actually I initially thought Brittany was the problem, but then I realized Lav is the one coming down as an authority figure. Brittany is essentially trying to have philosophical discussion, and Lav is trying to claim that she has objective knowledge of the correct philosophy to hold.

[@enteoz1694]

I don't believe spiritual systems are the same as a life coach, as you can go into fairly abstract concepts while trying to find insights from a spiritual/yogic writing. Though it also depends on what is the main focus of her course; whether it is an internal body development/cultivation focused practice, or something that focuses more on spoken knowledge/dharma and societal issues.

[@Blackmachismoo]

Facts

[@theprofesionalist7927]

@@andreitihoan5165 She did come out swinging at the start of the convo, but let's not sit here and pretend that Britanny didn't trigger Lav as much as she triggered Max.

[@slanderman92]

I love how Dan wanted to pit Lav against Brittany like Godzilla vs Kong. Then Max came in like a massive swarm of attack helicopters that couldn’t decide which monster to focus their fire on

[@ImpulsesOG]

The true based lord

[@goose5761]

I couldn’t decide either, Max should scream at both of them more.

[@frown1167]

Not Godzilla vs Kong more like Godzilla vs a residential neighborhood. The neighborhood being Lav.

[@wisemage0]

Lev flipping on her position mid-conversation just to spite Max was fucking wild.

[@Twistedhippy]

Perfect review

[@zdog058]

Steven having the power to just give us massive dumpster fires like this is too much. No man can have all that power, especially when Destiny is a woman's name.

[@MarroniMusic]

JLP AMAZING'D this comment

[@Meatwad650]

It’s a woman’s name…if you’re a stripper.

[@BackwoodBanshee]

uh mazin

[@Jo-bs2uu]

everyone knows Dan is the shadow leader

[@ar8590]

Fr but I swear these people don’t talk normally Constantly: don’t want to derail, you’re running interference, you’re looking for an out. Like This constant need to over think their phrases and say debate terminology all the time like Oml these people don’t go outside. Also the chick at the beginning was annoying af

[@killerspartan666]

I love that Dan and Mrgirl were fighting a proxy war through women

[@overworkedcna412]

Ahaha this comment got me XD

[@schmittywerbenjagermanjens2649]

Amazin!

[@ryrez4478]

😄

[@goose5761]

Yes, send in the disposable pawns first.

[@ChenKaifeng]

lmao

[@BohemianKitsch]

"You're judging the way i fuck right now, and it's annoying me." that statement was FIRE. hahahaha!

[@avavavavaz]

54:44 Mr Girl when he was like "THATS A..THATS A HITLER QUOTE" was genuinely one of the funniest moments ever.

[@armandoocana409]

"I miss calculated how much MrGirl hates LAV" is probably the funniest line of the whole debate

[@Drowzycoffee]

wtf in the middle of the vid i decided to read the comments and i read this comment the exact moment dan said that

[@armandoocana409]

@@Drowzycoffee I hope you chuckled as much as I did

[@AnEnemyAnemone1]

@@Drowzycoffee love when that happens, always makes it 10x funnier

[@ramongosling5309]

Who is Miss Calculated? Is she cute?

[@CoolExcite]

Watching this live, it truly felt like anyone in the entire universe could call in at any time

[@williamlowry8809]

@ШHΔTSΔPP①⑧③②⑥⑧⓪⑤③④⑨ What's the angle here?

[@Holy_Grapefruit]

It's like the Avengers but in the DGGverse.

[@Condeycon]

Whose that?! OH GAWD JR ITS DYLAND BURNS WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!

[@ryohio4706]

Lmao, that's exactly what I was thinking watching it. Has they're ever been a debate panel where the streamer squares just take up the entire screen? Lol

[@yaroslavivanov9787]

Vaush crashes the call, and accuses everyone of being ontologically evil, and leaves.

[@messiyah4294]

Dan is the epitome of the “Me personally…” meme. Man is a next level instigator.

[@MaximusTCR]

He sounds like a groomer

[@MzSoulll]

lmaoo

[@nocuh]

harkDelight

[@realroberthours6799]

Thought of the exact same meme while watching Dan instigate this😂😂😂

[@chrisrock219]

What is the meme

[@zachariahphillips]

Brittany - “You all take yourself so seriously” Also Brittany - “I’m a philosopher”

[@cngotham4111]

She also says "who takes this seriously" while acknowledging that she has a positive impact to some people.

[@mharris4264]

She doesn't take phosophers serious🤣

[@Jake38nine]

I just say, quit supporting parasocial people on the internet. Quit giving them your money and seek professional help.

[@shanustheanus]

@@mharris4264phosophosaurus? Phosphorus? The fuck did you just say?

[@domm5715]

lots of philosophers dont take them selves all that serious. diaoganies ( i know thats spelled wrong , im not gonna look it up) is prolly the most famous. and thats who brittnay was comparing herself to.

[@jr6585]

Dan in the lead for buddy of the year for bringing us this content

[@limear]

He already lapped everyone else twice

[@Cycstorm]

Mrgirl will literally never get over it if someone else gets Buddy of the Year at DGG Awards.

[@calvin158]

Dan for the back to back to back buddy of the year? I'm here for it

[@calvin158]

Dan for the back to back to back buddy of the year? I'm here for it

[@jeremias-serus]

I'm voting Shneako buddy of the year and nothing will change my mind

[@CazLTV]

How fun would it be to see Mr.girl talk to Andrew tate

[@Arouxayis]

lav is like that pretty girl that no one told to stfu in life. it's really hard to listen to her say anything while max guides her on how debates work. brittany deflects to a detour and she takes every literal one, never presses her on any questions. it's funny to me that he was trying so hard but dan and destiny were just laughing their asses off in the background.

[@Blackmachismoo]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@panacea.palace]

Max was also doing it in the most annoying way possible, I completely agreed with everything he was saying but the way he was doing it was so infuriating

[@turnipgreen6280]

Lav really blew this to the fullest extent possible. She is extremely out of her depth debating lol, she’s going to get raked over the coals before she fixes that style.

[@simmias9397]

Jesus, Dan packs the dynamite into mine, lights the fuse, runs for cover and films the whole damn thing.

[@madmonkeys88]

More like he disguises it as a birthday cake, calls everyone over, then runs to a wall with a camera to video the explosion.

[@Sprite_525]

1:56:26 *Brittany* : “Dan I actually think likes me, so I like him…” *Dan* :“Alright. _To be clear_ , I actually fk’ng hate you. It’s not a joke.. If I saw you, I’d cross the street.”

[@wisemage0]

"I'd cross the street if I saw you" is actually a god-tier roast, holy shit.

[@TrentonF505]

@@wisemage0 I’m definitely using that one lmao

[@retrobluemusic]

i thought he was about to threaten her

[@PolarizedxD]

This is quite possibly my favorite debate of all time. Mr. Girl and Dan really came in for the pure gold content.

[@joppekim]

A wholesome dumpster fire. Never thought i'd say that.

[@manictiger]

"Debate" That's a stretch. Problem with "debate" in this day and age, is that people have no self-control, no stoicism, no intelligence and no knowledge. It is the blind and dumb arguing with the blind and dumb. Also, I can distill Britany down to the phrase: "dopamine addict". Arguing with someone like this is just always going to bring out the defensive walls, bad faith arguments, and trickery, because every and any angle you take to point out discrepancies between her worldview and reality is simply construed as an attack on their sources of dopamine. Also, anyone that claims to be a "life coach" is not to be trusted. No one lives long enough to master their life. Everyone is just a grown up child, and some are slower to grow up than others.

[@amazin7006]

Brittany single handedly slayed all of them. Mr.Girl embarrassed himself tbh

[@justaguy4771]

@@amazin7006 she did not lol

[@amazin7006]

@@justaguy4771 She did with ease

[@gabemord5088]

Brittany already buried herself when she said "everything is a social construct, nothing matters".

[@radred609]

Brittany is really out here getting away with just sidesteping criticism by saying "well i live to *my* code of ethics" when it's her ethics that are being criticised in the first place.

[@gotchathespider7850]

Yeah, it's insane to me that nobody called her out on that, that's like the easiest thing to shoot down out of anything she said. Hitler was also living by his code of ethics lmao

[@Jay-kx4jf]

Destiny also lives by his own values. She's not an anomoly. Most virtue ethicists go thst way.

[@gotchathespider7850]

@@Jay-kx4jf The difference is he doesn't deflect criticism of his actions by saying he was living by his code of ethics. Nobody is saying Brittany isn't living by her code of ethics, they are criticising the ethics that she lives by.

[@Jay-kx4jf]

@@gotchathespider7850 right, but she's also demonstrated and explained her code of ethics. To which Max's response was basically "aha see you are careful"

[@martinpedersen2650]

I think murder is wrong. Well we all live, love, get out heart broken and die so it doesn't really matter.

[@Chopstewie]

Britney: 'We're literally nobodies' This woman also believes she's in a rarified class of individuals representing the cognitive as spiritual elite of humanity.

[@SnowHimbo]

Mrgirl was spot-on when he called her out on presenting herself as an authority and then walking it back when challenged. This person is a manipulator (although Mrgirl clearly is also)

[@RoaringTide]

Right? Before she joined the call everyone was hyping her up as a good debater. She really shouldn't be able to get away with simply saying "Lol, and? None of this matters." Like that's not a response. Maybe she genuinely doesn't *care* how people view her or if her content has unfavourable side-effects, which is fair enough (nobody can force her to stop), but she doesn't have any valid defense besides "I'm just living life bro". The only behaviours for which that defense might fly are ones that have zero questionable results. I'm not even personally bothered by her content or services myself, but I can see the holes in it that would benefit from a more thought-out defense.

[@sinkusbinkus4408]

I can't tell if all the Brittany-haters are obnoxiously uncharitable or if you legitimately just can't understand what she's saying

[@SnowHimbo]

@@RoaringTide I legitimately do not understand how anyone can think she even remotely won this debate.

[@SnowHimbo]

@@sinkusbinkus4408 Not really lol, she LARPs as some kind of authority with the Scientology-tier levels BS and then tries to handwave it when she's called out on it. She's a grifter dude.

[@bobjenkins4925]

Watching Dan plant the seeds of hostility in Lav was amazing

[@oliverworley5162]

I don't know this Dan guy, but it's such a fucking cartoon watching him say the most blatantly antagonistic thing and somehow not noticing his manipulation themselves. It's one of the best things I've listened to ever

[@doclime4792]

@@oliverworley5162 He's that person that we willingly get manipulated by because it makes us better people. You want Dan in your corner and when you lose his approval for even a moment, you fight even harder to win it back.

[@IntermittentStabbing]

He's just doing the Jew thing, no one cares about his adoration 😂

[@bigbangrafa8435]

Looking in retrospect, the relation between Lav, Max and Steven was doomed since the start. Lav is the easiest person to manipulate, and Mr. Girl is a control freak and a sociopath. Steven should be careful with which type of people he surrounds himself with, some of these people might be capable of worse than a pathetic hit-piece and failed cancelation.

[@NixViche]

@@bigbangrafa8435 not on destiny no, hes pretty careful and so open online that there isnt really anything to "bring forwards"

[@finnancahill2644]

Lav had so many easy points to make and she blew literally all of them

[@dumdude1083]

Easy Brittany W

[@williamlawson7852]

Lav trying to destroy her own argument but Brittany is so stupid she won’t let her.

[@madcap297]

@@dumdude1083 From the start, she was guaranteed to win since she literally is carefree, sees life through how she sees it and does not give a shit about anyone trying to change her ethics. Annoying but scummy W.

[@dumdude1083]

@@madcap297 sounds pretty based imo.

[@rootin222]

LAV did nothing wrong

[@InfernoZX5]

I fuck with Destiny so far. I needa learn more about his views but he's so well spoken, reads a room well and does not let any context be lost in ill translation. I can only respect a man like that. And he doesn't miss on bringing everyone up for air when things get too thick.

[@teegee126]

mrgirl trolling lav under the guise of "coaching" is top tier content

[@chandler7493]

After reading the title, watching the teaser, reading the description, and reading the pinned comment, I still have no idea what this 2.5 hour video is going to be about.

[@roberthudson5443]

It's just content with a little bit of dialogue about sex work 90% of it is useless meta convo but it's fun

[@estivel15]

And after 2.5 hours of listening to these people crying and whining, you learned absolutely nothing. These videos are a waste of time. There's no value to it.

[@epileptix8954]

Well Brittany is in it, so it's not going to be about anything with real substance. Could tell you that much.

[@tigerfestivals5137]

@@estivel15 they're entertaining background noise for when I'm grinding in a game or drawing

[@qactus4031]

I've sat through all of this live and I don't know what it was about

[@midasderrek]

The way Dan just sat back happy after turning his cam on just got me so good 😂 so proud of himself

[@kidathlete]

Can we all appreciate Dan for this amazing content?

[@SirZipper]

It's great watching chat immediately realize what's going to happen too lmao

[@AndroidMessiah]

I wish he would disappear lol

[@Sprite_525]

@@SirZipper ​ Dan laughing at the chaos he created at 2:02:28 😆

[@Xontor23]

Are you Dan? You are aren't you

[@GKJusticar55]

It was all him all along. Palpatine’s behind it all.

[@Fatfit2]

The first "Lav, stfu" seemed a little harsh After awhile I found myself thinking the same 🤣

[@WTHFX]

Two women, both egotistical. One who mistakes being moderately clever for being intelligent. The other, moderately intelligent trying to be clever. Neither with a drop of integrity or ability to defend their positions. Erudite (the Watcher), Max (the Interlocutor), Dan (the Automator) and Destiny, (the Arbiter and Lul-king) look on.

[@vsb3000]

You’re spitting

[@shizuoheiw]

This debate has battle bots energy, tenuous control of the combatants, the half backed strategies, and the random dancing/taunting while your opponent gets their shit together, great debate

[@deep_and_profound_topics]

nice username

[@Jo-bs2uu]

i miss DRRR

[@triumphTLG]

Jesus dan is literally the "personally me? i wouldn't have that" guy

[@adilson816]

And we love him for it

[@dumdude1083]

World class instigator

[@saltysweet2054]

Dan is a content deity

[@user-cd4ms6cf8l]

Watching Mr Girl attempt to coach was probably one of the funniest part of the discussion

[@alewis17]

It was funny but more annoying 💀

[@chron22]

@@alewis17 ong bruh I already didn’t like liv or whatever her name is but that shit just made me hate mr girl bro is a tier 100 cornball

[@brendanthomas2543]

MrGirl shut the fuck up while someone else is talking challenge level: impossible

[@user-vh4nk5yy6s]

@@alewis17 yeah, even destiny tried to step in to help her out but she is just unable to hold Brittany down to anything

[@MMAGamblingTips]

@@alewis17 annoying af … you enjoyed that? 😳

[@niks.8957]

Maxs whole point around when stardust joined seemed pretty much objectively right, you should take accountability for your actions was his whole point. Idk why he received so much push back for that lol

[@patsteirer]

"You wanna kill Brittany and I don't!" Lav says as she launches personal attack after personal attack, even when she's totally in the right. The problem is she refuses to be honest about her intentions.

[@vos474747]

It's hilarious to watch Mr Girl make his little sandcastles and then throw a massive tantrum when Lav steps on it

[@Michael-kp4bd]

I was about to argue that your analogy isn’t really fair to Max, and then I actual visualized the metaphor and couldn’t stop laughing because it’s true

[@margauxh2681]

I can’t stop laughing at this

[@illestvillain1971]

@@margauxh2681 it's so true. Why does Mr girl love to be contrarian and then gets upset when someone challenges it... Man's "power" went to his head

[@frown1167]

It's because the topic is super important to him. I'd be pretty pissed to if someone was doing something that I believed was wholly immoral and then acted evasive/weasely when questioned about it.

[@Oldhandlewasabitcringe]

@@frown1167 i dont believe Max actually believes what shes is doing is unethical. He has to reach super hard to try and find her saying anything wrong

[@dominiks5068]

Brittany might be the most annoying destiny orbiter of all time. also, the stuff mrgirl said was as smart as all the other's opinions combined, even if he was kinda rude at times

[@hugo3627]

I dont think brittany is a destiny orbiter.

[@CockatooDude]

@@hugo3627 She's in like the Destiny Oort cloud.

[@ember4303]

@@hugo3627 she's a protected class in the destiny cast system

[@TheWentzMachine]

@@hugo3627 to a truly based and determinism pilled dgger perspective, everyone is an orbter.

[@UnlimitedAuthority]

This was one of the most entertaining panels Destiny has ever been on.

[@Rufofeli]

This & Sneako was freaking funny lol

[@illestvillain1971]

@@quetailion6762 you were probably picked last in PE class. CRY

[@JustinWillhoit]

100% was the kill stream with Venti and Fuentes

[@MrNFree]

Brittany takes as much responsibility for anything she does as a 5 year old and it's hilarious she calls herself the introspective one

[@Erikulum]

Maybe she is that introspective and is just a monster with no ethics. ...is it more charitable to give her credit or not?

[@johnascialpi5247]

Brittany is a nice person .

[@subashira]

i LOOOOOVE brittany simon 😊😊😊

[@meltedsnowman9637]

To be fair when you’re as hostile as Mr Girl and Lav was being, you’re pretty much shutting down any productive conversation and chance of the other person changing their mind.

[@MrNFree]

@@meltedsnowman9637 I've seen her talk before and she never takes any responsibility for anything

[@JL-ol8zg]

Really lovin the extended destiny universe lately. This is some of the most entertaining content I've seen in a long while.

[@RoninMaine]

As someone with ADHD, this is the best debate of all time. I hate them all for different reasons, but love them together. It's a megazord of hate

[@illestvillain1971]

You hate Dan? Damn bro you are hateful in every sense.

[@magnolia4493]

As someone with aids, I agree

[@ar8590]

Real

[@rootin222]

LAV did nothing wrong

[@Itsriceytime]

Hahaha

[@BlueZombieBlood]

Dan is a genius. This is the most entertaining thing I've seen in weeks.

[@illestvillain1971]

I appreciate the platform he provides for small female creators like destiny etc. Great dude

[@Twistedhippy]

An evil genius.

[@roadrunne255]

This debate hurt my head in a different way than a lot of the other ones. I'm with a lot of the other commenters on this one, it was actually fucking hilarious how Dan cultivated this in the beginning, it's crazy how oblivious she was LMAO

[@bigben3089]

For me it’s the way that they are trying to have some kind of debate coaching lesson in real time during a debate. It just makes it almost impossible to follow or have any kind of a conversation at all.

[@SovereignSmurf]

Yeah it was obvious what he was doing, Destiny even straight up told her he's only here to cause drama, I don't know what she expected.

[@amazin7006]

@@SovereignSmurf you can't have drama with brittany, she's too passive to give af

[@screaminghairyarmadillo]

@@amazin7006 get off your alt Brittany, you're not fooling anyone

[@amazin7006]

@@screaminghairyarmadillo take your meds brother

[@domrickas6633]

This conversation was actual brain rot. If anything conversation like this have a higher chance of turning me into an incel. Than guys like sneako or Tate ever could.

[@manictiger]

Yeah, it's basically just cackling hens. I had to cut it short. Too much noise. Britany's worldview can be shattered with the saying, "no man is an island unto himself". We live in a world of 7.6 billion other points of view. It's worth understanding a few of them. Narcissism is one of the most vile, society-destroying traits humanity could possibly have, yet it seems the West has cultivated it the most. If all that matters is you, then you're going to be very depressed when you find out the lifespan of a single human.

[@matthewthompson3830]

yeah

[@u.s7072]

That guru lady is one of the most unbearable people I've had to experience. You can see the insanity in her eyes.

[@azulcrinaldossss]

Really puts in perspective when Dan the dogwarts connoisseur it's the most sane person on the call

[@skulduggeryvile7887]

He's the Machiavellian who put this shit show on for us. He ain't scot free on the sanity check👁️👄👁️

[@nocuh]

Dan is the real content, reverse MVP (prolific vaunted misspeaks)

[@RyanCoomer]

I am a zookeeper in chicago and I regularly feed the hippos day old sausages so they have a taste of their home. I put strings on the sausages and swing them around the hippos they get so mad at me and scream but it's an obsession sometimes the hippos try and break out of their cages but I keep swinging those hotdogs in wide circles over their heads. Luckily my boss doesn't know I do this or my coworkers

[@KR-kz9lq]

Based

[@phillbill5678]

GIGA

[@matthewscully795]

Lmao

[@cokeMONSTERps3]

Why are you like this?

[@b.cthebruvtallbruv6145]

@@phillbill5678 CHAD

[@Evilskoening123]

THis is still my fav destiny arc

[@mavrostitan1968]

Mr girl yelling at Lav is the funniest things I've ever seen, I hope they assemble again cause I've never laughed this hard

[@THEG00DF3LLA]

Dan stacking the dominoes and sitting back and enjoying them all fall down.

[@SoftChroma]

Too many main characters in the same room

[@AndrewNajash]

I’m 22 minutes in and this Dan fellow is a magician with words

[@camthetrashman2386]

A wordsmith, you could say

[@k23969]

A linguomancer

[@MrJeremyopio]

I don't see it, that guy was boring and didn't say very much.

[@davidstern5012]

Well, he is jewish, it's in his DNA

[@CockatooDude]

@@MrJeremyopio He instigated this whole thing, what are you talking about?

[@loonasfirstdisciple]

favorite stream in a long time. usually the more drama related long discussions really suck but this one was really fun and felt like a big crossover episode marking the beginning of a new arc by tying in a culmination of characters developed throughout the series with many funny call-backs

[@harpsmith8570]

and it's even funnier when you have ridiculous characters like Lav, Brittany, and Mr. Girl. oh, and can't forget Chud Logic and his ChildWarts

[@Atoan1861]

An hour in, if Mr. girl seems like the most reasonable person in an argument there’s a problem 🤣

[@extofer]

Lot of excellent points Stardust made in this one.

[@roadgnome9166]

I feel for LAV here, trying to stay on topic while being interrupted on one end teaching how to debate and then the other end an extremely indifferent person just fucking around taking nothing seriously.

[@MileenaUltra]

Yeah, but that not taking anything seriously is a defense mechanism. She knows her opponent likely has good points, so it's much easier to just say: "Oh Habibi, this isn't real life!" Kinda slimy.

[@igotbandTHEFROG]

Feel for her why? she fumbled this entire debate after talking a hot game she's just plane dumb it took two brain cells to follow the conversation and she simply couldn't

[@mharris4264]

I felt the same but she was also constantly interrupting.

[@valac_42]

This was so good. I feel like Max actually held himself fairly well in this panel. In the past, it's been hard to be on his side, but this time he didn't get distracted from keeping Brittany on the fire. I'm a fan of Erudite but she did kinda derail lil bit (also she was maybe too inclined to defend Brittany). Same with Lav; Max was right to call out how easy it was to get her to talk about the side convo.

[@midaskeijzer7107]

Yes, I agree I was at first very confused to be on the side of Max for once.

[@Perseverance84]

Personally, I am infuriated with Brittany for putting myself in a position to side with Max for a change. I'm also disappointed in Erudite because I feel her opinions on Max led her to side with Brittany more often than she should have, and I thought she'd be logical enough to see through all this "level system" BS.

[@misterdemocracy3335]

Brittany’s levels system is cringe and comes off as something I would come up with at 18 years old, completely baked, but never question through my entire twenties. For being so enlightened she comes of as having no self awareness or self criticism or social barometer. I like her personality minus all the shit Lav said which I mostly agree with.

[@manictiger]

Yeah, it's pretty bad. If all you ever focus on is your own ship, you will: 1. Have no allies 2. Be outmaneuvered by your enemies As some one who's pretty bad at the whole "charisma" thing, even I understand the value of understanding other people's worldviews and points of view.

[@bcs259]

Dan is by far the most interesting person in the dgg universe. He honestly could’ve made it as a streamer if he wanted to

[@harryseaton7444]

Wait he dosent even stream? He's so good at making content

[@bcs259]

@@harryseaton7444 he makes too much money on other business ventures to focus on streaming. When destiny said to Dan “you’re a mega millionaire” he wasn’t joking

[@Hydranox]

I genuinely dont think so, he doesnt have the pull like destiny does or many others do imo

[@loonasfirstdisciple]

no way dancantstream

[@SkeleTonHammer]

If Dan was a streamer it would defeat the whole purpose/reason why Dan is so awesome. He's not a streamer so he has no investment in this clown show. He can chuck grenades and watch them scatter and laugh.

[@MrFreshEnjoyer19]

I would rather listen to a 24 hour recording of 7 different alarm clocks blaring at max volume, then listen to 5 seconds of Brittany Simon, but don't let this distract you from the fact that "Destiny" is as a matter of fact, the name one would give to a human adolescent female.

[@sameash3153]

Based!

[@CalMoul3]

Destiny’s demeanor throughout this saved my soul.

[@zedpilled]

Brittany is charging more than any therapist I’ve seen for “life coaching”

[@Michael-kp4bd]

Let’s be real, it’s “parasocial fun time!” and of course people like it. Not only is the parasocial aspect built into it, but the amount of money they paid subconsciously makes them attribute value to it. And as annoying as Max can get, his main point is so obviously true: these KZbinrs and the way they are looked up to is ripe for abuse, and Brittany’s system is set up in a way that is almost perfect scenario for someone to get away with that abuse. This whole thing is a cluster fuck, and I don’t give Max any winning points, but I think his line of reasoning is the most important take away from all this. And that doesn’t mean that Brittany is an abuser. In fact, she’s most likely not. But that’s not the issue! It’s the lack of guardrails and the ambiguity of the relationship and the fact that an abuser using Brittany’s setup would be devastating.

[@adamtrott78]

This entire convo made me side with Brittany so much harder And none of your pseudo-mrgirl autistic rants are going to convince me otherwise

[@aradiamegido2965]

Lack of gaurdrails and ambiguity?? YOURE PAYING. theres no ambiguity when people know that once tge money stops, the SERVICE stops

[@Michael-kp4bd]

@@luc.k7736 what’s her price now? I ask because it might not be that different from an hour with a therapist. Without insurance, mine is $170. And it’s not like a negotiated price, that’s just the full price. And I live in a city and expect that $170 might be more than average. I’m guessing her price isn’t very different…

[@RAM-im1xf]

@@handsomelyditto4215 Unfortunately, there are some desperate folks who will pay, because it could be their "last" option (i.e maybe they lost faith in therapists in their neighborhood, etc, etc).

[@platosghost6916]

It's amazing to look back on this now... Max's online presence when he was a Destiny orbiter is literally just accusing one creator after another of abuse... Lav, Erudite, Brittney, Dr. K. It seems so obvious now.

[@darcest_light]

This was the best era of Destiny hands down.

[@Nitsua1201]

This whole situation was like watching a comedic play from an improv troupe called "Mansplaining"

[@rohanjarande]

🤣

[@Waibublz]

Seems to me like she just created this system to feel better about herself. She picked something she thinks she has an abundance of and created a hierarchy that she could put herself at the top of. There doesnt seem to be any more depth to it than that. I dont see why I would ever take a system like that seriously. Seems to have worked pretty well for her though.

[@shaygold4067]

You should watch her videos on it.

[@DatHombre]

Yeah I feel like you'd have to be a 1 to take the numbering system even a tiny bit seriously lol. And she evidently acknowledges this 1:40:18

[@amazin7006]

​@@DatHombre The levels system is no different than any other "system". In fact, calling it a system at all doesn't even make sense (which is why she doesn't call it that). All it is is just a new meme form of eastern philosophy. Replace the world "levels" with "enlightenment" and you guys wouldn't be soying out about her half as much. Crazy how she 1v5'd this debate so easily.

[@chriscueva1866]

@@amazin7006 if she called it enlightenment it’d be even more cringe. When she says “levels” its ambiguous and needs clarification which seems to muddy the waters even further. To be fair, I don’t kno much about Britney and this is the first time I’m Hearing about her level (non) system. This conversation was a waste of time. I loved every second.

[@amazin7006]

@@chriscueva1866 She calls it introspection, but really all of these terms are hitting on the same cultural dynamics that we all implicitly understand. Mr.Girls entire criticism is based on a strawman he fabricated

[@TheKomentor]

MrGirl is right about Brittany that whenever she starts feeling the heat, she starts saying she is a victim, she has been stalked, etc. Destiny doesn't want to confront Brittany because he wants "access" to her at some point in the future.

[@jackrom75]

tbh I think Brittany is hot so I would probably do the same.

[@wisemage0]

Questiny adding another maiden to the harem.

[@byronbraddock]

"You all think you're so important. It's really boring." Based take.

[@BarnabyJane]

Watching these to go to sleep because Max and Lav are just that exhausting.

[@samanthasmith733]

Same lol

[@SuperRainbol]

Britanny and Lav in the same panel is a torture straight from the deepest level of hell

[@avacadocap9591]

At least they're not men lol

[@Michael-kp4bd]

What’s Lav’s deal? Or rather people’s deal with Lav? I haven’t seen much to know all her takes or all about the arc she’s on, but she seems reasonable enough and likable to me. Also with no preconceived notions leading me in any direction, she seems generally entertaining and made me laugh a few times. I get there must be some prior interactions or Internet behavior that makes people despise her, so that must be my disconnect with most of DGG about her.

[@arshiyas4619]

@@Michael-kp4bd Most i know about her is that she pretended to be bi-racial multiple times, each time basically changing what her other half was. shes half-white half-indigenious, then half-white half-black, then half-white half-latino

[@lockekappa500]

@@arshiyas4619 Huh? Are you sure you're talking about the same person? Ive never heard her say she's anything but 100% jewish. Shes avidly proud of it also. You sure you dont mean Brittany?

[@lockekappa500]

@@Michael-kp4bd Seriously. She couldnt be more spot on about Brittany, and I dunno why Destiny appears to have zero balls on the subject. Not even sure why he shows up to half these debates, he seems intent on never taking a side or speaking badly of anyones actions. (even if they deserve it)

[@maxim377]

This just goes to show Dan was right, he's always right, can we all just take a moment and thank Dan for being. Thank you Dan.

[@grattjer]

Dan lives matter.

[@Littlewings1984]

Yeah the fact he starts off by saying lav was gonna be nice to her and then this last 5 seconds is lav telling her how great she is😂

[@Nyarlathotep_Flagg]

"I'm an impartial moderator" xD I actually laughed out loud at that claim. He MIGHT be trying to stay out of it, but he's not fkn impartial.

[@SuperSecretAgentNein]

For the record, this video starting with Destiny talking to this woman in a dark room wearing a knit cow style snood of some sort, it felt like the weird anxiety dreams I’m sure Destiny wakes up in a cold sweat from every so often.

[@RingThatBell]

Dan: “Remember what side you’re on!” MrGirl: “The thing is Lav is not on her own side.” 😂🤣😂🤣

[@Darklordiban7]

I think it's strange that Max was the only one who seemed to pick up on the fact that getting Brittney to admit to what she said about level 1s required them to work through like an hour of outright denial and slippery tactics. Unfortunately he got distracted and dropped that point when Steven and Kyla ran interference. I also find it strange nobody really pressed her on the fact that she just said, "Oh it's okay. I corrected myself in one of my VODs." As if people need to search through your random long-form content to find the time where you corrected yourself about a bad take you made on a more deliberate video you made.

[@JohnSmith-im5gz]

Yeah I agree with you. I don't really know all the lore on why Destiny and NotSoErudite ran so much defense for Britney, when she is apparently being slippery and deflecting a lot of questions. Made me a little disappointed, but I'm guessing Destiny is trying to not burn his bridges now that he has way less connections, which kinda makes sense. Although it would be nice if he could sprinkle in some more consistency while doing it.

[@Jay-kx4jf]

People change. Why would anyone press her about changing her stance?

[@Theo-vn9hm]

@@Jay-kx4jf Because she takes 0 accountability for the fact that what she said can be incredibly harmful, she slips from "I'm a nobody girl friend" to "I'm a problem solver I take people's problems and solve them".

[@Jay-kx4jf]

@@Theo-vn9hm she literally demonstrated how many checks she goes through. What more exactly are you expecting and wanting here? Do you even know the answer to that for yourself ? Both the things you quoted are true. That is the reality. Living in balance in two opposing ideas. Not buying into the black and white nonsense. She IS literally a nobody. And she's a problem solver. These two aren't even contradictory.

[@Darklordiban7]

@@Jay-kx4jf It's not about pressing her for changing her stance. It's about pressing her for why she tries to obfuscate and pretend like she has never said what she said in the past. The adult thing to do when Max brought it up would be to say, "Yeah, I said something and I have changed my position on it." Would be nice to make some sort of accessible correction that isn't buried in a random VOD.

[@neskmadran570]

I like how each of them is like their unique Mass Effect character and that we’ve chosen all the renegade dialogue options. I loved every single moment of it.

[@user-cd4ms6cf8l]

Im commander destiny and this is my favorite stream on the citadel

[@troyknights3342]

LOL

[@nomadfc4342]

This is quite literally the best characterization of this shitshow

[@benkenobi1989]

mass effect made more sense than any part of this stream.

[@benjamindover8221]

@@benkenobi1989 tru

[@kinoli6061]

stardust really had the best arguments here, a must joiner

[@PlaytheListDude]

Stardust is fully redeemed in my eyes. Didn't think I had it in me, after listening to her mispronounce women 500 times in a single panel.

[@avacadocap9591]

Yeah that is pretty annoying

[@Woodzta]

Fully redeemed? She barely said anything! Or was that the point going over my head? 😏 I'm more bothered by her pronunciation of Amber. It's like Eamber or Ember.

[@JoeMama-gi1so]

Stardust is BASED!

[@hannesboos1549]

I didn't even notice Stardust was even on the panel lol

[@PlaytheListDude]

@@hannesboos1549 still the most likeable woman there

[@choggerboom]

Wow LOVE the content lately, you should get a panel of 100 psychopaths on that would be fire maybe even a thousand

[@ryohio4706]

I want the entire screen to be nothing but the little streamer squares, I want it to glitch out cause they just keep trying to add more and more people to the panel but the technology just can't handle it, that's how many should be on a panel at once,, lol

[@choggerboom]

These are all fire suggestions, let’s make this freaking happen 🔥

[@rickross9829]

spread it out. I think any more than 5 or 10 autists and you'll have their ramblings going on in the background to an annoyingly disruptive level. A fair amount schizos would be a great addition too... 25 or so; they're good content picks but having a high volume will increase the chance they trigger each others' psychosis. Get around a dozen or so people on the sociopath/psychopath/BPD side to draw content out of these ill people and then fill the rest with destiny fans kekw

[@ysy_y]

The entire comment section of this video makes me wonder if I'm living in an alternate universe.

[@ahsoka6807]

Me too

[@DaGoon_]

This is one of the best Destiny videos August has put out in a while. It has all the chaos of a normal bloodsports panel but instead of random whOmegalul commies it's like everyone in the DGGEU that was around.

[@CockatooDude]

"Random whOmegalol commies" Oh my god dude that's the best description of most panels lmao.

[@leiunderthemoon]

I’m very new to all of this content. What does DDGEU mean? Help a girl out please 😩

[@CockatooDude]

@@leiunderthemoon DGG Extended Universe.

[@DaGoon_]

@@CockatooDude as much as I love chaos panels they get tiring when it's just a bunch of people playing as hard into their stereotype as they can which makes the arguments somewhat predictable. When it's just DGGEU people it's like the Avengers of internet lefties

[@djStens]

If you look up the Scientology emotional tone scale, it's VERY similar to Brittany's levels. The way she says "if it works for you, it works for you" is very similar to Scientology justifications lmao. She knows the cult template very well

[@Lil_Paulie]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who it's BLINDINGLY obvious to that she's manipulating dumb people. She didn't say one sensible thing in 3 hours.

[@24.7SMOKESHOW]

That's literally true for anything that works for anyone

[@Jay-kx4jf]

Because there's only so many ways for things to manifest. A smile can be happy, nostalgic, sad, bitter. Imagine using superficial similarities as the basis of your argument.

[@downsjmmyjones101]

Just because a cult uses something doesn't mean it's bad.

[@frozenfresh6406]

It's interesting how debate skill is so important, almost more so thant he ideas you're expressing. I think on paper I would probably agree more with Lav, but in the debate Lav did so poorly that Brittany seemed more reasonable.

[@note4note804]

Best part of all of this is Dan started off this complaining that Lav and Britt better not make the conversation all friendly with each other after how strong her criticisms were, and then he ended up being 100% correct that Lav floundered, sputtered and then ended up siding with her completely by the end. Also hate how completely on point MrGirl was on this convo. Goes to show that he just has to be against people that are mask off for his rhetoric to work.

[@Tellmewhy235]

Lav vs Brittany is far better content than anything Vaush has put out lately.

[@anakinthemannequin69]

Based Lav for switching sides to spite Max and then actually coming to understand her.

[@based_oregano]

this was a good era lads.

[@scoopydooder]

Holy shit it's really annoying to hear Brittany ping pong between "I'm not a person of authority! I'm just a person!! Humans gonna human girlie XD!" To "yeah people bring me their puzzles and I solve them for them cause I'm a thinker or mentor." Weasely shit lol

[@JaredandTasha]

“Im a human” To me, that’s no different than saying the sky is blue randomly as a conclusion…

[@kingcheesus7591]

God bless mr girl for being the only one who could make a coherent point

[@TheInfectous]

"says she's doing harm" "can't concretely say she's doing harm" oh yeah he's real coherent champ.

[@FakeDonut]

I'm not sure you can say that when he either interupted or yelled over anyone else trying to make any point for most of the time. So, yeah, technically, since Mr. Girl couldn't yell over Mister Girl, he got to make coherent points

[@11DaltonB]

@@TheInfectous Brittany is just a snake oil salesman literally a different flavor of redpill coaches minus the misogyny. Lost people are the ones who look for and pay to be told how the world works and what they should do. And if you have no credentials to offer the correct help to people you could lead them in the completely wrong direction. She says insane shit that gets played back to her and then backpedals and downplays saying you’re the only one who takes it seriously lmao. People don’t have to commit suicide for it be harmful. It’s selling a fake greater understanding of the world, may not be illegal but it’s scummy to a certain degree.

[@kingcheesus7591]

@@FakeDonut He was interrupted more than anyone else

[@kingcheesus7591]

@@TheInfectous There’s a difference between saying an action in generally harmful and that a specific action caused a specific harm. Mr girl was arguing the former

[@vwwvictor]

the chatter saying ”add trainwrecks” in the middle of the shitstorm made me laugh lmao

[@abrosis2768]

Holy shit can I ONLY get 1 on 1 convos with destiny rn? This panel is like 4 people who can't even settle on what they're talking about, Mr. Girl occasionally steering the conversation correctly. But Steven is the only one who actually know's what both parties want to say. Destiny has fully had the conversation in his head already and they're just doing opening statements for 2 fucking hours

[@srslyshadows]

Based Dan... the hero we didn't know we needed

[@lockekappa500]

I'm 5mins into Brittany being here and she's literally just reading the inspirational posters on her wall. I don't think she's said a single unique thing so far.

[@stankaus]

God Dan is still as much of a sociopath as always

[@jjppmm29]

Destiny truly does host the best panels. bonus meme: "a new foe appears." "a new challenger approaches" "a new contestant has entered the arena."