CREATING A WC3 'Troll Headhunter' IN WOW! | Conquest of Azeroth CLOSED ALPHA | Custom WoW | 1-50

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Mcdoubles

Mcdoubles

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Mcdoubles back again with a brand new video and today we're going to check out the HEADHUNTER spec on Conquest of Azeroth's Barbarian class after a recent rework to the spec that made it INFINITELY better than it was before!
Now, WE THROW SPEARS!
Overall, the new version of the Headhunter spec is actually playable compared to the old version and I'm very proud to have worked on it. In this video I take a character from 1-50 and showcase how the spec plays in dungeons and in the open world!
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00-0:43 - Intro
0:44-6:07 - Taking a look at the NEW AND IMPROVED tree!
6:08-9:15 - Starting our journey as a Headhunter
9:16-13:19 - Exploring new abilities and talents
13:20-17:59 - Dungeons as a Headhunter
18:00--27:12 - Showcasing more new abilities and talents
27:13-34:25 - More Dungeons as a Headhunter, this time with BANGER AoE!
34:26-37:20 - Showcasing PvP as a Headhunter with light analysis
37:21-39:55 - Showing the most updated version of the Headhunter tree
39:56-42:12 - Final Thoughts
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@nightknight7748
@nightknight7748 8 ай бұрын
I always love the class design of coa all the classes playing significantly diffrent from on another with their own special mechanics and or amazing team wide abilites
@KommisarFuklaw
@KommisarFuklaw 8 ай бұрын
The throwing barb build is so sick. I got a couple nit picks and ideas though: 1. I love the troll headhunter theme don't get me wrong, but as a class playable by other races like humans, I think less Troll theme would be appropriate. It will feel odd thematically to play a human that has abilities referencing Zul'jin and such. 2. So audio feedback would be nice on the abilities- some meaty thunks when an axe lands, or just more roaring/raging/blood lusty noises would be sick. 3. A channeled ability where you stay planted, but go ape-shit throwing a ton of axes very quickly would be super cool. Perhaps even a fixed aoe line that you can't turn, but on a CC'd target or NPC held in place you just pummel them with volume. Like Lucian ult in League, but you stand in place for balance reasons xd
@jfklmk13447
@jfklmk13447 8 ай бұрын
Audio idea is good!
@X3ntel
@X3ntel 8 ай бұрын
Cool class! I’m definitely getting the tribal “band together” sorta vibes here based on that move speed increase for your party. I definitely wanna get in on this, looks like a lot of fun. I know it’s a lot of work to design classes, wish I could help! Great video as always.
@ethanbumm1203
@ethanbumm1203 8 ай бұрын
Hey mcdoubles, so glad to hear that the technical side of it all is coming to you more and more. Havenet been able to play or watch here lately due to a new job myself. Hope your doing well man
@Dvnstrt
@Dvnstrt 8 ай бұрын
Dude the WoW Lofi mix you used in this video is so good, I listen to it all the time
@Mcdoubles
@Mcdoubles 8 ай бұрын
me too man, me too
@Thestrongmanphysiologist
@Thestrongmanphysiologist 8 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you’re a part of the team now.
@jfklmk13447
@jfklmk13447 8 ай бұрын
The class design is so cool! Love it!
@shadowfiendking
@shadowfiendking 3 ай бұрын
So way back when, I started playing WoW when BWL was the top raid. I really loved WC3 and wanted to make a troll spear throwing hunter. I logged into the game for the first time ever, made my hunter, and was ready to impale some dudes. Come to find out that not only did hunter not work with ranged weapons, but no one really used it, not as a main source of damage anyway. Seeing this really lit up the lil kid in me. This might be my first character just so I can honor my troll.
@ItsTheGofa
@ItsTheGofa 8 ай бұрын
8:33 Just an FYI McD, the skill name shown is misspelt, it should be Gristly not Grisly. Anyway, good video man, love the effort you're putting into CoA, HH for me yes !!!
@Viertis
@Viertis 8 ай бұрын
For the limited amount of talent points you are going to get, there are WAY too many talent choices in the class tree, especially at the first unlock row and the row right below it, maybe find a way to combine 2 passive nodes into 1? Or bake a passive into an active ability that is already there? Spec tree is looking good though, except the row right blow all the actives, thats a lot of passives and could be combined or baked into the actives as needed or be made into choice nodes. It feels bad to not hit your capstone abilities, just ask any shaman in retail right now. As I have discussed before, adding clickable abilities doesnt equal more fun. Button bloat is a thing, spec and class there are 28 active abilities in these trees and that doesnt include what you learn as you level up. However this spec with the CDs on almost all the abilities I think it would be fine. Feels bad you dont get any AoE until lvl 30+ and it is a talent, there should be a learned ability like throw glaive in retail that hits the main target then bounces to 2-3 targets, at least for dungeon spamming which is how everyone is going to lvl anyways. That being said, if CoA is as fast as Acension leveling then this tip can be ignored, but my understanding is that CoA is supposed to be slower leveling, so youll need an AoE before 30. If you are looking at a choice node for Maiming Throw, a base 50% slow is really strong, and you mentioned choice node would be to increase the slow % or duration, with a 50% slow base line, there is zero reason to not take the duration increase, even if it is only by 1 second, to make it that much less time between applications of the debuff esspecially in PvP. Maiming throw should be 30% baseline and choice node should be either increase by x seconds or increase slow to 50%. Feels bad that 2 of the Ability nodes in the spec tree to move down to the cap stones, Skull Smash and Let the Killing Begin are situational PvE talents, but very impactful PvP talents. They should be a choice node OR they should be moved so that PvE isnt forced into taking them just to move down the tree. Again situational in PvE is fine, but its forcing you to take a talent youll likely NEVER use, just to move to the capstones. For Zul'jin! Make the Bloodfury portion 3% max HP per second for 3 seconds (matches the movement speed duration) increase the CD to 60sec. In the duel with the cultist, Berserker Rush did not stun him on any of the uses that were shown and because you didnt have any other abilities that stunned no diminishing returns, I also dont see a way for them to not get stunned (Icebound Fortitude on DK in retail). This should be fixed or it should state "does not stun in PvP" but im sure it's meant to stun :) With scaling dungeons, lower level players tend to be WAY more OP than higher level players. The issue was you were using the starting gear.
@SLymz_Gaming
@SLymz_Gaming 8 ай бұрын
That roar you did in the video around 25:37 should get the heroism Audio. Since everyone is charging into battle.
@mauri_oh
@mauri_oh 8 ай бұрын
Hey manm nice viedo. DO you know when COA will be released officially with lvl 60 cap?
@jfklmk13447
@jfklmk13447 8 ай бұрын
This is amazing!
@alexseabra1
@alexseabra1 8 ай бұрын
Random side note- Really enjoyed the oblivion playthrough. You should bless the non members with your experience there. It was a fun ride :D
@Mcdoubles
@Mcdoubles 8 ай бұрын
do you mean the very last one I did a couple months ago as the Khajiit?
@alexseabra1
@alexseabra1 8 ай бұрын
@@Mcdoubles yeah exactly, I was enjoying how immersive you made the world seem lol.
@bchaozgamer4282
@bchaozgamer4282 8 ай бұрын
I got CoA access last night, enjoying it alot so far, rolled a DH. I used to play DH throughout Legion retail until mid bfa then bfa got boring asf so I haven't played retail since, this definately scratches an itch ive been wanting to scratch for quite some time.
@swedeads
@swedeads 8 ай бұрын
one thing i would like to see with the dark ranger class is kinda like wild imps but with skeletons on black arrow kinda like the wc3 esc sylvanas.
@Gutripperr
@Gutripperr 8 ай бұрын
Kind of a shame that you can no longer lose health to gain attack speed. The risk/reward tradeoff was really interesting. The previous iteration played like Zul'jin from HOTS, and it would have been really cool to see that work in WoW. I get that it didn't have a lot of buttons, but I think this version has lost what made it functionally most unique
@davidcollins9249
@davidcollins9249 8 ай бұрын
I hope you add bleeds to the son of aragal and incorporate it into the healing in DPS specs
@Admlostinwow
@Admlostinwow 8 ай бұрын
Any news about when coa is going to be released? Damn looks so good and modernized wow.
@mikealsonalexander5162
@mikealsonalexander5162 8 ай бұрын
I barely comment....but this is amazing greeaaat work !!
@amirulhafeez6282
@amirulhafeez6282 3 күн бұрын
this is super cool.. is there a tank with a ranged playstyle? like the mana barrier tank is caster tank. i think, a throwing spear tank is super awesome tho.
@Raxxoish
@Raxxoish 8 ай бұрын
Hope you give Stormbringers and Tinkers some love.
@jeramiejohnson4240
@jeramiejohnson4240 8 ай бұрын
Should put a boomerang in as a throwing weapon
@todge09
@todge09 8 ай бұрын
Sorry, the auto throw is what sold me to want to main headhunter.. I loved being able to just auto throw, that to me is a headhunter. Zul'jin style was what I loved about it. I understand it can be buggy but I don't like having to click a spell that should be auto. I like the changes and berserker change is okay, however a lot of the damage came from low health attack speed which felt fun. Was the change made because the buggy auto couldn't be refined?
@PendlayRoe
@PendlayRoe 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, not having an auto attack as a hunter-like class looks weird.
@Bubberz73
@Bubberz73 8 ай бұрын
It would be cool for fighting tank oriented classes if there was like an anti tank 😂👌 like a class that specifically does percentage based damage so it can chew through the meatier targets like the God blade Cultist and Guardians and such. Possibly even having mechanics that can temporarily reduce max health so healers can't infinitely keep them up and there can be a burst window for you and your team to actually take them down. Would add more value to dps in BGs I feel like 👌👌
@FukkenGoogel
@FukkenGoogel 8 ай бұрын
berserker rush is a really fun idea I like it
@Mcdoubles
@Mcdoubles 8 ай бұрын
same i love it
@Omili
@Omili 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait for 60. I still wish you guys would make actual channel based class and I really think arugal would be the best candidate for it. What I mean is that remove hard cast spells from the class and turn everything to be about channeling the blood out of enemy and transferring it to the friendly targets for healing or corrupting the blood in enemies to debuff them. Channels should be something like active skill you use like drain life on warlock but with talents that cause the effect to stay on the target (x amount of time) even when you are channeling new on target so the gameplay loop would be to channel either multible targets and leave the channel on them or channeling same target with multible different debuffs (when fighting single target). Basically no burst dmg at all but extremely powerful constant pressure and dmg that eats away enemy health and transfers it for the friendlies. And when there is no enemies, arugal should be able to transfer it's own blood to the friendlies by sacrificing their own health. Even the "class" rage mechanic could be changed into blood mechanic and work as a "tank" for the class to spend on things like staying in worgen form or using big skills and for the healer/caster dps it would be way to heal/use skills without sacrificing own health. Some debuff ideas: - Transfer blood: does dmg and fills the "blood tank" for the caster. (channeled: will stay on target after channel ends for 10 seconds). - Refresh: refresh all passive channel durations to the max and increases the dmg targets take from the channel + doubles the amount of blood caster will recieve from the passive channels for 10 sec. (30 sec cd). - Corrupt blood: leaves ticking dot that increases in dmg and refresh the duration on every drain tic. max 20 stacks duration 5 sec. Heals caster 100% of the dmg done on every tic. - Contagion: spread all debuffs to the other targets and refresh the duration when the main target (spell was casted on) refresh it's duration. Main aoe skill. - Mangle insides: debuff that causes the target to vomit blood (stuns for a 3 sec) 45 sec CD. Can be spread with Contagion. - Thicken: thickens blood of the enemy to slow their movement speed depending how much they move: every yard means 2% slow and at 100% they will be rooted in place and silenced for 3 sec. Can be spread with Contagion. - Control: Ultimate skill 3 min CD: force every enemy with Corrupt blood dot to run away from you 20 yards and do massive dmg after that. Can be combined with Thicken. If targets are not targeting you then they will stop attacking for 5 sec instead of moving. Boss enemies do reduced dmg for 5 sec instead of moving and take 2x dmg from the Control. - Blur: enemies affected by Corrupt blood cause every attack to do 20% of the attack dmg to every friendly target around them depending on the range of the skill they use (30 yard range spell = 15 yard aoe dmg to friendly targets. Melee skill = 5 yard extra range to all melee). Can be spread with Contagion. And some buff ideas: - Sacrifice blood: heals target target (channeled. Uses the blood resource first and after that casters own HP). Will leave the link to the friendly target that passively heal them 50% of the Sacrifice blood for 10 sec. Max 4 linked targets. - Blood boil: Increase every friendly linked target HP by 20% and refresh the duration of the link back to the 10 sec. Duration 10 sec. CD 1 min. - Adrenaline: increases the casting and attacking speed by 10% for every linked friendly target + caster. Heals friendly targets by 5% of casters max HP every time they take dmg (2 sec CD on heal tic). Duration 10 sec. - Ultimate sacrifice: next Sacrifice blood will cast channel on every friendly target in 40 yard range, increase their max hp by 20% and link their health pools together for 10 sec. Costs 70% of caster own HP. - Blood potion: conjure blood potion. 5 charges. 4 sec cast time. - Drink: drinks blood potion. Heals caster to the full over 10 sec while drinking (channeled, can move while drinking). (maybe talent could turn that to full HP in 5 sec and double the charges of Blood potion and even add buff that increases the max HP longer caster drinks the potion. And so on. I just want true vampire/blood/channel gameplay... So bored of being forced to cast everything. It feels like every caster are just same with different visual effects.
@jygb7092
@jygb7092 8 ай бұрын
Lol no
@batmon26
@batmon26 8 ай бұрын
kinda wish it had some Melle to it, maybe stacks of carnage do different things for head hunter, increase attack speed and movement speed. make carnage stacks like combo points. dump them with aoe axe throws or ricochet axes when buffed up. or you can play. also axe throw gives stacks of carnage, incase u want to stay at a distance.
@IndicatedGoodLife
@IndicatedGoodLife 8 ай бұрын
Man I really want the full playable beta already but I get the balancing problem right now.
@Ticklemetwink
@Ticklemetwink 8 ай бұрын
Do you know if they have any plans for worg and goblins ?
@petersimon2619
@petersimon2619 8 ай бұрын
Would you say the original build had enough active abilities?
@kylecrabtree3493
@kylecrabtree3493 8 ай бұрын
What would you recommend as the best healer on coa currently ?
@Nick-hq7yc
@Nick-hq7yc 8 ай бұрын
have u thought of having a spell that drains all of your energy so your opening burst can be drain and fill ?
@Wulfrig1911
@Wulfrig1911 5 ай бұрын
When is the next phase or release date? Looking to see if I buy it or not..
@WolfPeace82
@WolfPeace82 8 ай бұрын
Quick question Dubbz-Is the new 1.17 Download Link for Turtle safe? Sorry I know it's unrelated to this video
@narixiz
@narixiz 8 ай бұрын
Would be nice to have some skillshot for more fun, like piercing spear, something like pantheon Q
@robynoosthuizen3319
@robynoosthuizen3319 8 ай бұрын
Milord project ascension needs you, I have designed a full build for you to enjoy
@loveisbutpain
@loveisbutpain 7 ай бұрын
I think I may be doing something wrong the damage on the necro minion class from level 10 -14ish feels low to me sometimes compared to my witch doctor. Does anyone else feel the same and should I switch to the death spec?
@scotthuffman3462
@scotthuffman3462 7 ай бұрын
My friends and I are all gunna try CoA... As soon as its not paid. As it stands tho as long as the devs keep getting money I don't see them ever finishing it.
@jasonsaez3668
@jasonsaez3668 8 ай бұрын
Love HEADHUNTER!!!! This looks much better than previous version!!! IGN: Frostheim
@mikeblank8133
@mikeblank8133 7 ай бұрын
Maybe we'll be able to play it on live servers in another 10 years xD
@kaig6533
@kaig6533 8 ай бұрын
Hey Md so im downloading this game rn looking for a good realm to start off on as a new player???
@davidaleksovski8717
@davidaleksovski8717 8 ай бұрын
are you gonna play on Epoch beta 3?
@Mckadesarcade
@Mckadesarcade 8 ай бұрын
I wanna play this so bad
@maverickhunter999
@maverickhunter999 8 ай бұрын
So, when they make CoA public, is draft going away?
@Mcdoubles
@Mcdoubles 8 ай бұрын
nope both draft and coa will exist in tandem. Or whatever draft becomes!
@oemahkucing7876
@oemahkucing7876 8 ай бұрын
this class is very similar to troll in dota2 :)
@justinmorgan8122
@justinmorgan8122 8 ай бұрын
Please show love to gnome. I want to be a gnome guardian tank or a gnome barb. I always play gnome warrior and rn there is no gnome just straight up melee warrior archetype
@zausage2757
@zausage2757 8 ай бұрын
So Mcdoubles as a channel is a PvE dev log for CoA now?
@Mcdoubles
@Mcdoubles 8 ай бұрын
wat
@KiryamaThil
@KiryamaThil 8 ай бұрын
Beta when? :)
@ScreamVOXScream
@ScreamVOXScream 8 ай бұрын
Let's goo
@MrAlucinor
@MrAlucinor 7 ай бұрын
Wow great work. Wish people like you worked at blizzard. They so desperately.need fresh ideas!
@DaKevable
@DaKevable 8 ай бұрын
Dear Sir McD where the fuck did u get the dragonflight UI from? I was looking for it, but couldnt find it :(
@starden_jenkins
@starden_jenkins 8 ай бұрын
60 when? 🎉
@gamingwithadutchman
@gamingwithadutchman 8 ай бұрын
Always a big fan of custom content im just sad that they paywalled coa for what it is. Dont think i will ever play it as i feel like atleast with ascension you get more updates more info about whats going on and more active development. Coa is just a single dude with controll freak atitude about HIS coa so eh ima skip coa for Ascension ^^ Good vid as always brother!
@vuruni6348
@vuruni6348 8 ай бұрын
kewl B)
@TheYoungonex
@TheYoungonex 8 ай бұрын
why not take the animation from shattering throw, make it instant, so he actually throws axe instead of knife? lol
@TheYoungonex
@TheYoungonex 8 ай бұрын
skull smash, let the killing begin both way too strong
@UrzaMortis
@UrzaMortis 8 ай бұрын
while your at it let them fix hoplite it looks fantastic but does no dmg at all
@aerosmithfan1991
@aerosmithfan1991 8 ай бұрын
Is it that cultists is busted or is he just way better geared? He had almost 1k more health than you do, which tells me you probably have much lower gear than him.
@allenbates3470
@allenbates3470 8 ай бұрын
Mc doubles! I play ascension wow!!!! But it’s pretty lame. I’m lookin for someone to play with, we should grp up
@batmon26
@batmon26 8 ай бұрын
mcdoubs can we get rid of spirit for anscestry... atleast give a node that does spirit is converted into attack power. so if u got a all spirit build it actually feels well rounded. honestly hate the frost aspect of it. keg smash is dope.. and the frost spell is nice to have a free spell when emptying ur keg. jist hate how so much of the barb feels like long cool downs. burst isn't that great. anscestry is decent aoe but not amazing. know its a support class but majority of the skills the class uses aren't affect by the main stat
@holstjh7276
@holstjh7276 8 ай бұрын
Please fix dualist ranger. Do some mcmagic 😂
@krasimirdimitrov4955
@krasimirdimitrov4955 6 ай бұрын
Why level 1-50 and not 1-60? ;d
@Crayven95
@Crayven95 3 ай бұрын
This (as of right now) does not look fun to me personally. A lot of the talents feel like they could be baseline for the class as a whole, mainly the slow and possibly the blind
@Trueotaku01
@Trueotaku01 8 ай бұрын
Miss the intro
@fubar9629
@fubar9629 8 ай бұрын
I miss playing Zul'jin in HotS. And the previous version of headhunter really shared a lot. The faster attack speed in exchange for draining your health was such a unique playstyle. Now it just looks so boring.
@blackblade99009
@blackblade99009 8 ай бұрын
dead zones are a bad idea especially if you need to do melee focused stack content it is just a moment where you can't do anything because you are to close to the boss. it is actually for this reason that hunters when they were switched to mostly range lost their deadzone. also because of the deadzone this class is useless against melee. all you will be able to do is run away all while a melee keeps smacking your stuff around.
@LuizCarlos-sc1vj
@LuizCarlos-sc1vj 7 ай бұрын
How do you manage to install and download the files?
@Wynn42069
@Wynn42069 8 ай бұрын
I do love Mr. whooper but this is not why I started watching... funny pvp, criticizing servers honestly,... open world pvp... I know people puss out of open world HC pvp... still... even the open world leveling vids seemed more fun... maybe I'm getting old lads... just some feedback
@mohsins.3851
@mohsins.3851 8 ай бұрын
still an alpha?
@keaganratcliffe8973
@keaganratcliffe8973 7 ай бұрын
Algorithm
@SM-wc2tf
@SM-wc2tf 8 ай бұрын
3rd🎉
@timvan8316
@timvan8316 8 ай бұрын
idk man ascension feels just odd
@IndicatedGoodLife
@IndicatedGoodLife 8 ай бұрын
Why? Its awesome but its alot of work in Progress.
@Skorpio994
@Skorpio994 8 ай бұрын
I dont think this class aesthetically looks good to be honest, yea you may have helped with the talent trees but lets be honest the animations are still basic it doesn’t look exciting also the axe’s dont even show up when you were running around i get its in beta mode but definitely not a class i would invest in
@hazardtitan467
@hazardtitan467 8 ай бұрын
1st
@IndicatedGoodLife
@IndicatedGoodLife 8 ай бұрын
Nie erwachsen geworden?
@Bisclas
@Bisclas 8 ай бұрын
A 50% slow for 5s with 8s cooldown? That is insanely overpowered, you mean to say i get to move normally for a whole 3s just to be slowed again for 5s, then move for 3s, then slowed for 5s..... This together with the 3s Stun+ jump back....do you see how stupid this is for every melee class fighting a Headhunter? What are you going to do to balance this for the melee classes, give them a Charge every 5s?.....The balance in this server is going to be a mess I truly hope Abilities like these do not make it to Release, and in my opinion, do not make this server like the other ascension servers where the road from 1-70 is insanely easy because we can 1 or 2 shot every mob with no risk at all of dying, it becomes super boring. All the classes need a HUGE nerf in the damage, every single class i tried so far does insane damage, the leveling aspect becomes a joke. Just being Honest my Friend.
@kushpaladin
@kushpaladin 7 ай бұрын
i have been very disappointed in the ascension team for this slow development. when i bought the alpha, i was expecting it to be released in 2 years. yet here we are, hitting the 3 year mark and we're still stuck at level 50. we have been stuck at level 50 for a year. if i could get a refund i would do it in a heartbeat
@scotthuffman3462
@scotthuffman3462 7 ай бұрын
Remember when the dev team said CoA would be totally finished by 2024? Maybe if people stopped buying travel guides the team would actually have a reason to finish it.
@user-fg6mq3dg3d
@user-fg6mq3dg3d 7 ай бұрын
Just let them do their job, they will produce something that is high quality and not half ass work
@Wynn42069
@Wynn42069 8 ай бұрын
I'd respectfully like to remind you of pvp... wonky builds, struggle... COA feels very mainstream bliz-like... if you know what I mean... I understand if this gives more views, but you're losing the og ppl I think... more pvp possible?
@jygb7092
@jygb7092 8 ай бұрын
Why don’t you make your own game instead of ripping off others. Quite scummy
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