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[@CritCrab]

So I read that including the map flag in the thumbnail gives maps more visibility/legitimacy, I didn't think of that so thanks for letting me know. Updated the thumbnail. Also help me out here I don't get it was the MAP flag made by p- dos or people trying to delegitimize the LGBT community? I'm getting mixed messages from the comments section. This whole story sent me down a rabbit hole I don't think I'm ready to go down 😅😰 Also I keep seeing people commenting about cuties, what's that? Edit: I thought y'all were talking about the tiny oranges why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why

[@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627]

You poor crab

[@reikae__]

And now he's scarred for life

[@getthegoons]

The flag was made by them because they want to be considered lgbt

[@Sgt-Wolf]

Somebody make a anti-map flag quick.

[@rocksnrolls]

A neckbeards Katana, stabbing through a "MAP's" (let's be honest, paedophiles) throat.

[@aidanboyle7374]

This man got hit with "I can't vc, I'm mute" and fell for it. Holy shit.

[@omnical6135]

"he didn't swallow the worm, not the hook HE SWALLOWED THE WHOLE DAMN FISHING LINE" "and dear lord, he didn't swallow the fishing line with that, he swallowed the whole damn boat" i don't have anything to add, i just think these lines are very funny

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

@@omnical6135 Imagine if it had gone on longer, he would've swallowed the HARBOR!

[@mandykarevicius9746]

I wish I was there to voice for OP. I've been told I sound like Suzie Q on the mic. Although with this person I would have to try hard not to puke in my mouth.

[@rotaderp88]

Irl cheerleader is mute

[@gerbill13]

is that a thing ? cause i'm fairly well known for actually being mute

[@unoriginal1562]

This dude role played a character role playing a character to catch that guy, I applaud you OP

[@BAN3FromNoWhere]

Me?, i know who i am!. i'm the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude. You don't know what dude you are! -Kirk Lazarus, Tropic Thunder

[@ankokuraven]

RPing to defeat evil in real life

[@oldman8573]

That's some inception level Chris Hansen shit right there. Good on ya. I feel sorry for his cat.

[@rararasputin8608]

The Punisher approves (he once pretended to be a child online to catfish a pedophile).

[@jonathanmarks3112]

@@oldman8573 characterception

[@AuroPenumbra]

"he swallowed the whole damn fishing line" made me laugh a bit. "he swallowed the BOAT" made me LOSE it.

[@TheBayzent]

Fish fetish 🤔

[@bladehunter1097]

@@TheBayzent That's not nearly as bad tbh

[@phobia7786]

Gonna need a bigger boat

[@caolanochearnaigh9804]

@@phobia7786 Damn right...

[@HannahNoell]

Critcrab: "he showed pictures of his p-" Me: D: Critcrab: "-et" Me: oh

[@commanderharataidaku3303]

I had the same reaction when he said that part too sis 😔

[@freakishuproar1168]

_"she was a girl _*_AND_*_ a vampire..."_ {gasp!} x3 Dammit CritCrab.

[@omnical6135]

i'm assuming (from another commentor clarifying it for me) that OP meant LITTLE girl, like claudia from interview with a vampire ....yeah.... that's not good

[@legendofFranktheTank]

She was a girl, he was a vampire, could I make it any more obvious

[@Undomaranel]

@@legendofFranktheTank He liked warm blood, she took ballet... what more can I say.

[@user-jn1wm3tb8v]

@@Undomaranel He sucked her blood, and she'd never tell but secretly she wanted to be like him

[@reddeblack9473]

Le gasp 😮

[@lgniisfire869]

A mute cheerleader, fulred really was not thinking clearly

[@Sytheduke]

Back when I was a “mute teenager” online, I was actually 12 and wanted to seem cooler by pretending to be older. It could have actually been even worse had he continued after her dropping a curveball like actually being 12 or 13.

[@theopkingdom3433]

🤣😂🤣😂

[@doctorlolchicken7478]

A mute cheerleader grade A student from Nevada even.

[@han-zi7bz]

horny jail... actually, no. federal prison bc this shit is 🤢

[@Nerobyrne]

I mean, you can still dance even if you can't speak.

[@Mr.Spongecake]

"The Nevada age of consent laws would only apply to them if she were within 4 years of his age." Almost as if those laws aren't for the adults.........

[@MidoriMushrooms]

it's like that in my state as well, the law exists in conjunction with other provisions that allow teenagers to leave home early and get jobs. (I think the age is also a max of 3 years apart here too.) Like if you're 18 and they're 16 and you're 14 months apart in age that's whatever but nobody over 21 should be pushing that law anyway. >_>;

[@jadespades4237]

Unfortunately, a lot of those low age laws (and many states don't even have them) are because child marriage is still a thing even in the US.

[@MidoriMushrooms]

@@jadespades4237 you aren't wrong, and speaking for myself, I come from a conservative state where ideas about marriage are, uh, a bit behind... I'd agree with the consent laws (with appropriate protections, obviously) if they furthered the freedoms of the individuals (which also means better workers protections for kids who leave home early) but as that probably won't happen (especially in my backwater state,) it might be better for everywhere to just raise the age of consent to 18 anyway. or at least treat the federal age of consent like the only one worth paying attention to but that's just my take, I guess.

[@Sytheduke]

I think it’s the same in my state. Being the age of consent doesn’t immediately mean all adults can be with you. Only the people who just became adults. I’m also the same age as the creeper, and the youngest I’d date is 20.

[@exantiuse497]

Critcrab wasn't actually correct when he said that. The age of consent in Nevada is 16, the law goes as follows: "statutory sexual seduction (meaning statutory rape) means {sexual acts} committed by a person aged 18 or older with a person younger than 16". There's nothing referring to the relative ages of the parties; a 16-year-old is treated as an adult in Nevada when it comes to this. I know it sounds weird but that's how the law is. Of course that doesn't mean it isn't creepy to solicit sex from 16-year-olds, it just isn't illegal in every state He probably thought about "Romeo and Juliet laws" that some states have (but not Nevada). They mean that two people of about the same age can have sex (or the crime is less severe) if one or both are underaged

[@Reilly-Maresca]

“He had this odd magical version of DID” 🚩🚩🚩

[@guicaldo7164]

I don't know, I think if handled right this can be an interesting character trait. If handled right.

[@gus8824]

Yeah, I've run into a few people trying to do that... even if not creeps, they've all been mega-edgelords wanting the spotlight

[@charlesmwolf]

the problem i have with most people who will try to play DID is that they always use it to make a mega-edlgelord persona. like, thats not what DID is. almost everyone with DID has a little in their brain somewhere from the abuse and trauma they endured as kids to develop DID. almost no one with DID has a "beast" inside of them (see split) .

[@EasilyBoredGamer]

i mean eberron basically has that as an entire race

[@charlesmwolf]

@@EasilyBoredGamer changelings are not DID, rather they prefend and craft themselves into new people. they are actually quite the interesting race imo. and less prone to edge-lord beasts

[@alien_tater4391]

OP saying swapping pictures of pets was the only wholesome thing creep did. If anything that is just more red flags, predators often use pets to put their targets at ease or as a way to get close/make a bond with them. In this type of situation that is almost certainly what creep was doing.

[@thepurehealer1279]

I made a confident, sassy, and flirtatious female bard character in a westmarch (which I'm happy to say no longer exists) I remember the main nuance to her was she was young (20-25 if I recall) and a virgin, she had constant offers about sex both in her backstory, and in the server, but she was saving herself for the special someone. I thought she would be a pretty fun, peppy character. And for the most part she was! Issue is... playing a female character makes some creeps wanna make that character either: A. A romantic attachment to their character, with no other definable traits Or B. Actually... yeah just A. It got to the point where a player said their character was infatuated with her and her mild flirting, and would make her his. I laughed it off and informed him she just wasn't interested as the character was kindoff a bad person... to which he said the character would do it regardless of her choices, and implied he would rape her. And that's when I lit my computer on fire

[@axios4702]

Only the holiest fire can cleanse the impurity, well done.

[@LevidelValle]

I'm sorry that you had to go through that.

[@thepurehealer1279]

@@LevidelValle don't worry, she got her good treatment and a wholesome story in another server!

[@DistressedCrab]

So how well do computers burn?

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Yea that happens when you play with a bunch of sweaty neckbeards, when you play with actual men they wont let that shit slide. At my table I would've had a Solar show up and delete his character from existence.

[@rustyblackdog1619]

He only used his cat as bait. Animals are tools to people like him.

[@assfuckingshit]

Holy crap, you're probably right. I'd even wager that the cat photo is some random fair-use stock image from the net.

[@supercharliegalaxy]

@@assfuckingshit Well I mean Buffalo Bill had his lil dog "Precious" lol Edit: not defending the guy I just culdn't pass up the joke XD

[@MrMViceroy]

Not defending him, but that's probably not true. For someone who's very lonely (even if the loneliness is the direct result of their own awful personality) a pet can be an important companion. I've known some absolutely terrible human beings who genuinely loved their pets.

[@Hudson316]

The traditional "box of puppies to get the kids in the van when the free candy doesn't work" approach

[@Robin93k]

Well, Adolf Hitler loved his dog Blondi more than his wife Eva Braun or any other human being in general... Thus I think it's quite obvious that being an animal lover says nothing about your relationship with humans...

[@SpringDavid]

"if it barks, it's a dog and if it's in high school, it's a teenager" -Kappa Kaiju

[@PoggusAmogus]

Shit thats deep

[@TheBayzent]

Me, a Highschool teacher: I got so many things wrong in my life...

[@SpringDavid]

@@TheBayzent 👁👄👁

[@sexylazercatwizard]

Yandev is a creepy weirdo

[@SpringDavid]

@@sexylazercatwizard somehow he is weirder than your normal everyday weeb

[@mcbadrobotvoice8155]

found the cuties fan

[@filipstellberg8280]

Oof.

[@thepurehealer1279]

I... am glad I dont know what that means

[@ukotoa1639]

Trust me you don’t want to it’ll destroy whatever faith you have in humanity

[@trashpanda5869]

Lol

[@biorecords1506]

So true but God damn it. Did you have to remind us of that terrible idea?

[@tuseroni6085]

"im mute" is this discord lingo for not having a mic or did this person literally believe this CHEERLEADER was mute?

[@Gordyan_Knot]

"it took them literally minutes to decide to ban him" Wow, that long?

[@jonathanmarks3112]

I was thinking it should've been seconds.

[@samuelsoliday8241]

I think that's just how long it took to get everyone in the know.

[@sethmiller2532]

I would have made that decision before I had finished reading all the evidence.

[@mariusacripina8192]

@@jonathanmarks3112 I still don't get it. Yeah the guy was a fucking weirdo, I get that, but nothing he did was really illegal. Being flirty to a 16 year old is kinda gross but if she doesn't act up on it and she is the legal age in her state, than I don't see how this is banable ? I mean they don't know his real age as well. He could be a 16 year old who tries to pose as a 22 year old in front of older friends. I did that too as a kid.

[@redballoon9007]

Marius Acripina The legal age of consent is still 18. I’m not sure if the man said his age to the server but it’s most likely he did. In the case that his age is 16+ it’s still not legal for a 16 to be with another 16 or for an 18 year old to be with a 16 with sexual intentions. This dude most likely wanted to get into “Emily’s” pants. Either that or he’s taking his joking a little to far.

[@mathisntmybestsubject8440]

“I’m Chris Hansen. Why don’t you take a seat?”

[@inky5574]

"But you see how this looks"

[@inky5574]

Admin: You constantly sent her winky face emojis at the end of every sentence. What am I suppose to think about this? Howard: But the age of consent in Nevada is 16. Admin: YOU'RE NOT IN NEVADA. This isn't Nevada! Howard: I know but... Admin: But you see how this looks.

[@alastair876]

It hurt me to hear “rogue assassin wood elf” because my current character is the exact same thing

[@eli8131]

My friend has one too

[@guiinternauta3356]

also hurt me to hear nicolette because, believe it or not, this was going to be the name of my future carather

[@diddydollar7025]

@@guiinternauta3356 i know i'm a bit late but i couldn't help but laugh at Nicolette, sounds like a brand of Nicotine gum haha

[@lobstersonskateboards3988]

Heya, I'm the OP! I stated this on Neckbeardia's video on the topic before it was deleted, but more information was revealed after I made that post. As it turns out, due to what he revealed in a League of Legends server from another member of the WM, it was revealed he was around *27*, NOT 22. That means that more than likely, he even played down his age so he had a likelier chance of getting with Emily.

[@mcthuggin9803]

He made a response video,?

[@lobstersonskateboards3988]

@@mcthuggin9803 WAIT, HE DID?

[@blazerheata6479]

D-did he make a response video?

[@oddestzombie4715]

Oof im wanting to join the server i was wanting to try and find more servers that don’t revolve around erp i could get engrossed in

[@MrHel-hf3nk]

Damn him

[@vanguard-pv5mc]

"she was a girl AND a vampire." ...Lucy Westenra dude. And that's without even getting into all the various female vampires that existed in folklore pre-Dracula. It's not a new concept.

[@darkdesigns]

...you know, I was going to comment that the way he emphasizes those two together is especially insulting because it implies that he's being somehow edgy by playing a female character, as if those don't exist... and then I realized he likely meant an actual little girl, much like Claudia from Interview with the Vampire... and now I'm sick to my stomach.

[@omnical6135]

@@darkdesigns oh... oh... well on another... happier note, interview with a vampire was pretty good

[@KaleidosXXI]

@@darkdesigns In what way is it likely that he meant it that way? This was a PC that was being described sexually in front of other people, with a DD cup size, and who was played as having overtly sexual behavior in regards to other characters. If he was running a child PC like that he'd have been kicked immediately without anyone needing to do anything. Also it's obvious that he's being mislabeled as a pedophile, at worst he's shown ephebophiliac tendencies which is actually considered socially acceptable as long as you stay in legal ages (and in a fair few places, 16 is actually perfectly fine, just not online due to digital laws). The guy's fine with jailbait, but probably not kids since nothing suggests such, and his behavior suggests he's not even particularly targeting such people specifically as much as he's just being nondiscriminatory in who he flirts with, and honestly I wouldn't put it past him to actually not know that digital AOC laws differ from local AOC laws (a lot of people actually don't) and he was told that the person he's interacting with is of legal age where she lives so it's possible he just assumed she was fair game. Dude's a complete creep and deserved to be kicked, and he's crossing a lot of lines he shouldn't be, but let's not exaggerate what he's actually guilty of since that's just unnecessary and spreads a lot of misinformation. He's still a person and his behavior warrants someone sitting him down to address where he's crossing lines, but it's not fair to demonize or dehumanize him for what are largely minor offenses (They're still offenses though, and need to be addressed).

[@nyft3352]

I think you missed the joke bud.

[@DuelaDent52]

Seriously, Carmilla is *right there*, that’s really not that impossible to imagine.

[@flarewolf]

I feel gross after I heard that story. This guy the O.P. was talking about was really creepy. I can't help thinking what if that was my little sister was the one that the creep was targeting. Then I realized that it was likely that someone's little sister was and that makes me feel even more gross.

[@mikedalby2978]

because people shouldnt be allowed to chose to have sex once they are of age? wtf is wrong with you dude.

[@BatdadIsBestDad]

Oh man let me tell you something... we all have live this, always... Its a constant, predatory behavior towards women online is super high, much more in geeky fandom

[@viracocha6093]

4:05 I don’t think he realizes that the hymen can be broken from reasons other than sex

[@jdprettynails]

Most guys that obsess over DD breasts know virtually nothing about female anatomy.

[@alphaslootari3126]

Right? It's just a paper-thin wall of skin that's often incomplete and sometimes never even exists.

[@jdprettynails]

@@alphaslootari3126 Well it's not always paper thin. People think of the hymen as some sort of "freshness seal". It's actually more of a spongy ring. It's possible to have sex and not break it if you're careful enough. It will eventually erode away as you get older. Mine broke when my sister violently kicked me and my friend had to have hers surgically removed because it made having sex way too painful for her. Hymens are weird.

[@alphaslootari3126]

@@jdprettynails I didn't mean _literally_ paper-thin, but thin enough it's easy to break in a myriad of ways. I never slept with anyone who had an intact one before my transition, though, so I got no first-hand experience there; my cooch didn't come with one 😆 As far as I know, it's just a useless remnant of the body's initial development when the vaginal canal was first forming and all it does is make sex bloody if it breaks during 😆 Why would your sister do that!?

[@Corviidei]

@@jdprettynails wait did she kick you down there? Ouch

[@WolfLewis47]

Well, then. My friend has a song that suits this topic. "If you're not 18, then you're 12." Basically, any less than 18 yoa, just don't. My personal standards, however, is that I prefer to stay within two years of my age. Dated and married a woman 6 years younger than me, I regretted it as she lacked maturity and personal accountability.

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

What was that other saying squaring numbers are just like women if they’re under 13 just do em in your head

[@Arlesmon]

Well, to be honest here maturity and age aren't things that go together. Because you can have someone Who is 18 and be very matute, and yet someone Who is 30 and is still a manchild. I think it's more of a case by case, because even if some think that by being by x age you should be mature, this doesn't apply to all

[@amarellaharte574]

@@Arlesmon Actually maturity and age do go together. Not saying there aren't a lot of immature old people cause there are, but an 18 year old can only be mature for their age. That's where that ends. They simply haven't had the time for the life experiences they need to go any farther. So if you compare a mature 18 year old to a mature 30 year old well the 18 year old will seem the child they are. Same with the mature 30 year old to a mature 50 year old. Consequently only immature individuals are interested in those too much younger than themselves - they are on the same level. Not saying that's wrong just that's how it works.

[@Mr.Spongecake]

The thing about pedophiles is that they THINK/CLAIM to care about maturity and that their infatuation is about love but the problem with that is that sexual attraction =/= love. Most men conflate the two and that leads to issues. Not saying the men in question aren't to blame because I'm sure they've all been told this but they refuse to listen. It's NEVER about love or maturity. It's always about them wanting to boink what they're attracted to.

[@ChemoshKamos]

@@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312 a Bo Burnham fan, I see

[@ckillgore]

OP seems to be very forgiving and optimistic about this person's change of behavior. While I do not want to paint in broad strokes, I have interacted with a lot of people in my life who are manipulative in this very creepy kind of way. Everything this guy did would be extremely cringe inducing if he were doing it with someone his own age, and still a red flag for sure, but with a minor? I do not predict this man will ever change his behavior. Not to be overly pessimistic, but anyone I've ever met who has done this sort of thing has gone on to be the type of person who routinely abuses their power if they have any, and they rarely change for the better. My manager at my first job was this kind of a simp, and especially after being dumped by a woman who had indulged his infantile behavior for far too long, he got much worse. The last time I heard from him he was sliding into my roommate's DMs (she was engaged, and also a decade younger than him). He was my manager at my job because his dad, who was well into his 50s, was the owner of the restaurant I worked at. We would get a lunch rush from the highschool down the street, which had an open campus lunch hour. I was 19 at the time, and this old man would make the creepiest comments about the girls who would come into the store. I didn't know how to respond, because I was young myself, and I needed the money from the job. But the worst part was when he would imply that he would try to have sex with the girl if he could, but he couldn't. Then he would imply that I could, and that I should. It made my bones shiver. Once I got out of high school I had zero interest in dating anyone who was still in high school, and I would never have dated anyone under 18. But he casually in a professional environment would say gross stuff like that all the time. I'm certain that his son will turn out a very similar way, and I don't think this is a behavior that one simply decides to stop. I think there is something seriously wrong with people like this, and I don't know what kind of help could fix it, but I know it doesn't just fix itself.

[@Arlesmon]

I want to believe In the OP that the guy can change behavior and change for the better. And while it's not likely, there is a possibility that can happen. And for the son of the other story you mentioned. That might happen or might not, because while it's true that parental behavior can affect the mindset of a child, They're other factores that can be atributed, so that son can be a better person and break the cycle if certain decisions and self reflexión is applied

[@oliviabean8264]

I'm not worried about their kids turning out predators, I'm more worried about their kids becoming victims. The problem is with enough grooming yesterdays victim will become today's predator. I've dated a pedophile like that, and I've seen a similar situation to my own way out on youtube in the form of the Onision and Kai debacle... thank goodness the man who groomed me only succeeded in getting me to help him target a single friend and didnt have a large online following. These people dont change out of nowhere, these people can go to prison for it and literally be chemically castrated and tortured by their fellow inmates, then still think diddling a child is a worthwhile risk.

[@ckillgore]

@@oliviabean8264 I mean I also know from personal experience that while victims of sexual grooming and or assault are statistically more likely to continue that pattern of behavior, it is not an inevitability. I myself was victimized at an extremely young age, which has always made me very sensitive and aware of grooming type behaviors. For a while as a teen I was very hesitant to engage romantically with others, being aware of the cycle of abuse, and thinking that I was somehow ruined and could never have a healthy romantic life. This was not the case turns out. I understand how and why victims become predators, but I also know that at a certain point a person must make a choice about who they want to be. I was able to recognize, even as a child, that I did not want to do what was done to me to anyone else. It may have stunted my growth as person for a while, because I constantly walked around already seeing myself as an awful person, and blaming myself for what happened to me, but after years of therapy things are quite different. All of that is to say that, although this man's father outwardly joked about pedophilia, I do not think his kid will turn out a pedophile. I just see simp-y behaviors from him that are not dissimilar from the ones described in this story. Although he definitely obsesses on girls quite younger than himself, they at the very least are not children. From generation to generation, the cycle can be broken, or even made just not quite as bad. His dad may have been a full on predator, but I don't believe the kid is, he is just kinda a shitty guy. From predator to victim I know for a fact the cycle can be broken. But as far as someone who is already a predator, I have yet to see a reliable and repeatable process for rehabilitating (is that the right word?) these people. I'm sure there must be a way, through therapy, determination, and commitment to change. I just don't know what that process looks like for a child predator, or even if any of them want to change. My family insists to me that my abuser, a family member, has changed for the better, and I simply cannot believe it or interact with that person. However I think as a society it is worth investing resources into intervention first, and researching a real path towards rehabilitation with these people. Obviously the priority is to protect victims first, but as a culture we keep raising people who turn out to be pedophiles and rapists, and we need to find a real way of making that stop. I don't have any answers, but I know humans can do incredible things, and not raping/grooming children is a pretty low bar. I think we can get there.

[@phabiorules]

@@ckillgore very logical perspective, but I do disagree with one thing, and that is when you say that you do not know if any of them want to change. I feel like there are many of them that do not see something wrong with what they do, but I also think many of them do. I remember reading a yahoo answers question of a man asking how to kill himself without feeling any pain. His father was a pedophile, and he began to realize that he was becoming one too. He already started to engage in the behavior, and decided that it would be best for others if he did killed himself. I think that part of the problem is that we are not open enough to the problem, but focusing on the act. We have villified this act, and for a very good reason. The people who commit these atrocities should not be forgiven (I am very sorry that your family does not see your perspective), but pedophilia is a mental illness that should be discussed more openly. We have gotten to the point where no sane person would ever do it, so now we need to focus on getting the people that will, the help they need. Unless you believe all pedophiles should be killed, which is a perspective. I'm sorry if my comments seem disrespectful to you, and what happened. My goal is not to try to make light of your situation, but to found ways to ensure it does not happen to others.

[@edschramm6757]

yea, OP was a lot more forgiving than me, but i am very slow to trust, so when someone trips a flag that fast i either bail or get in touch with someone who can deal with it, depending on the situtation. luckily haven't had many of the latter.

[@dovahkiin5902]

I was in a world of warcraft guild where a girl joined, she was the only girl in the guild, all the guys flipped out in voice chat but things were normal beyond that. Then one guy used the information she gave in conversations to find her on facebook. I happened to enter discord when they were doing this hearing them say her name and stuff as she sounds like she is about to cry. She starts laughing when they explain what happened but I felt very uncomfortable and said so. I was really upset that someone in their 40's creeped on a 18 year old girl like that. I became the bad guy. I haven't really played wow since then, it was really weird to have all these people I thought were my friends immediately turn on me for being a decent person.

[@NWolfsson]

CritCrab: Yeeaaaaaah I have a new avatar with a separate claw! Editing software: This is too much responsibility.

[@bluemew123]

The moment we heard ‘Magical DID’ we immediately had a brain aneurism. DID isn’t magical or spiritual and should be treated with respect, even in a role playing game (hell we made a character with DID based on our own experiences with the disorder and stereotypes such as these!) We started off having 0 respect for this Howard dude and within the first minute we now somehow have less respect for him.

[@Urteilgame]

It wasn't actually magical DID, it was a way to explain the mechanics of the behavioral change.

[@minerofskies2451]

Having dated (and still being great friends with) someone with DID, I am absolutely appalled that this dude is playing it off as something magical and using it to justify being a dick to others.

[@bluemew123]

@@minerofskies2451 As someone with DID, mood. It's just flat out disrespectful and a harmful idea of the disorder in general.

[@Lord_necromancer]

I played a character who ended up with DID, but he was a Great Old One warlock and was being driven mad by the eldritch knowledge being whispered into his mind. It was actually a lot of fun for everyone involved, and led to great RP and plot lines to help repair his shattered psyche. But I agree people do a lot of mental illnesses and even physical deformities or injuries for flavor or to make their character seem "cool" or "edgy" and that irritates me. If it makes sense, and you're willing to actually accept and roleplay the hardships someone might go through then hell yeah, go for it. If not, just... just stop.

[@WolfgangDoW]

Our main issue there was he was using the "murderer alter" trope and to escape responsibility. But system responsibility is so important!! We're fine with magical plurality in fantasy games, like the Kalashtar are a race that are all plural for example And some forms of plurality are spiritual too and not considered DID (and this is recognised in the DSM-5 under criteria 4 too)

[@chrisingot1841]

I'm here playing skyrim while listening to ur story an when I here "uwu" I immediately turned my head to my phone and was like "nani?"

[@Lh0000]

“UWU what’s this” “XWX kill me now”

[@stuglife5514]

If you turn your head to your phone “and was like nani?” Please get a fucking hobby besides yiffing and anime. Wtf is wrong with you people

[@jameslove8174]

@@stuglife5514 why do you think he’s listening to dnd shit WHILE playing skyrim. He has hobbies like the rest of us lmao. (Why am I defending a furry)

[@Binks182]

Why are you still playing skyrim?

[@chrisingot1841]

@@Binks182 cuz I can?

[@lostjellyfish]

I hope more people like this help. I was an oblivious little girl myself, talking to a grown man by the age of 23 on discord. He groomed me, manipulated me, and guilt tripped me, after 3 months it finally got into my thick skull to block him. There's a lot more to that story but this isn't my storytime. Tldr; teenagers can be stupid, so please help them and do not blame them for being unknowing to the world.

[@keeysOST]

It's best to always have other friends with you on discord, especially girls. I've had multiple encounters of watching and listening to underaged girls get hit on by older dudes In the most disgusting way.

[@hind__]

If you were a little girl while discord was around you're still probably pretty young, please be careful.

[@caolanochearnaigh9804]

Tell me about it. One of my mates on Discord says he's married to a 22 y/o German chick. I personally wouldn't have a problem with that, (German girls are hot,) except for the fact that he's underage. He constantly refers to her as his "wife", and he won't hear a word against her. And she's the exact same. The putrid insect actually held an "e-wedding" on Discord, and invited our friends.... Those two are psychos, plain and simple. Just to be clear, HE made the first move, or so he tells me... (I'm a guy btw, and I will NOT tolerate predatory behavior towards anyone, ESPECIALLY underage girls. People like that make me want to kill...)

[@D13G0Z]

Howard: wanna hang out? *Sir this is a baby school*

[@SupremeCommanderBaiser]

So what? lol

[@DKiSAerospaceHistory]

Bruh it's called a daycare, wtf is a baby school

[@FloorPills]

@@DKiSAerospaceHistory uhm school for babies

[@Randomkitty74]

When I was 17, I made a flirtatious joke to my coworker (Who was a neckbeard) . He told me in the mic that I "shouldn't have done that" cause I gave him a boner. I was 17, he was 34. After that, he acted more weird towards me, and I got so scared, I told my boss what happened. She said that no matter what I did, he took it to far, KNOWING I was a minor. No matter what you do, if the person keeps going, and it makes you uncomfortable, you NEED to tell someone. Whether it's them and just say, "Hey, you're taking it too far, I'm no longer comfortable" or telling a higher up, it's important to tell that you are uncomfortable. If you make a sexual joke and they say "I didn't like that," apologize and don't do it again. Everyone needs to feel safe, and if you don't, you need to talk about it. If I didn't, I could've had a worse experience than I had with this man.

[@kevincass9917]

I feel like I've heard this story before. Did you write it down on a subreddit, and was it narrated by Fun With Failure? I remember the part specifically involving the "Because I've got a boner" line.

[@Randomkitty74]

Kevin Cass yes! I emailed the story to FwF, so I never wrote it on the subreddit. I try not to repeat myself, but I just wanted to remind people how important it is to report these creeps.

[@codybussen5208]

“This adult was into this kid and as we know 22 and 16 equals jail time.” Killed me…very funny/witty shot at a creep.

[@Gashnaw]

She should ave just gone with 15 for the age, that way it didn't matter which stage you were from, you would still be underage. A lot easier to find out if he is going after minors. I ha e met people who have been lured by people like Howard IRL here in Canada, where the age of consent is 16, and not with any restrictions. So a 16, 26, 56 or even an 86 could be parking and no reprecussions could be taken. (Canada use to be 14 too) But again posing as legal age where you are pretending to live does change aspects. I would ha e just gone with 15. Clearly underage and he probably would have still taken the bait. Probably could have gotten rid of him even quicker.

[@jimbobjones9330]

I agree. And MENTIONING that you were 16 and lived in a state where that's consensual almost felt like a green light. At least for a freak like this guy. It was a bad idea. I think the creep would have gone for her either way, and all of the weird Nevada stuff sounds like it just gave him a green light to be creepy. And even worse, now he knows that any girl from Nevada might be "legal at 16", which makes things even more dire.

[@tyrongkojy]

Yeah, I'm Canadian, and a total perv. I embrace my pervert self (Just now realized how nasty that is, but fuck it, I stick by that statement). However, even I can read a room better than this weirdo. Or, at least I hope so... At the least I know not to literally groom a person.

[@Gashnaw]

@@tyrongkojy I too am a perv, but not sick. Still the whole Nevada stuff was not needed.

[@exantiuse497]

No. It doesn't matter if he solicits girls aged 15 or 16, neither is acceptable. If he said he was 15, the creep might have given up if he feared the criminal sentence, but continued harassing other young (but of legal age) people on the server. The point was to get evidence against him to smoke him out, and posing as a girl of legal age was the most surefire way to do it. Granted, he probably would've gone for it even if she was 15, people that only think with their genitals don't tend to care about the law, but removing the legal obstacle was the best bet to get him banned

[@jimbobjones9330]

@@exantiuse497 The problem is that by saying "this is totally legal where I'm from", the creep had an "out". And he could have taken it as a green light. Because, why else mention it? I don't get the point of it. Especially since there's the "4-year rule" apparently, which means what he was doing WAS illegal (if anything came of it), but OP failed to tell him that. It was a really weird setup, and saying "he might have left it he knew it wasn't legal"... isn't that part of the point?

[@ukotoa1639]

*reads title* Well good morning to you to!

[@twig8523]

His name was Fullred, as in: Full of Red flags.

[@kingedgelord4726]

Me: *wakes up and sees title* Critcrab: hey wanna see some creep Me: so when are we gonna send him to the gallows???

[@jonathanmarks3112]

I am curious to know how that creep got justice handed to him.

[@firockfinion3326]

Why's there a big, flashing white box around CritCrab's arm during the closing statements?

[@sylph4252]

I think there's a 1 frame message. Haven't managed to pause on it yet Edit: at least the third one is just some corrupted picture. Nothing to see here folks

[@noneu1140]

@@sylph4252 when looking for hidden messages, you can use the < > characters on your keyboard to go frame by frame unless youre on mobile

[@skittykay]

@@sylph4252 the arg fan in me is like "maybe they're datamoshed 👀" but that seems silly lol (because that's not how that works, I just see a glitched image and I think SECRET MESSAGE)

[@ashleybow]

Maybe whatever he’s using to animate the claw lately glitched and it messes up the tweening?

[@malezar5444]

I've noticed this on at least 1 other video. I've paused on it and its not a secret message, its just glitches out. I don't know what's happening to it

[@christopherbravo1813]

"Howard" sounds like Kamoshida if he played DnD.

[@jonathanmarks3112]

Exactly.

[@lukesams3349]

“He didn’t just swallow the worm, not even the hook, he swallowed the whole damn fishing line!” Now that’s a great expression

[@ogalog]

31 views : 25 likes *I love democracy*

[@leos.2322]

I mean you don't have to like the video to want Howard in jail

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

They had to throw up in the bathroom before they could come back and upvote.

[@nathanschuler7587]

I love the Republic.

[@den8483]

I've been trying to get into D&D for months but every time i asked a player for advice on how to get started (I've literally never been involved in D&D before so I have no clue) they'd get creepy upon finding out I'm a teenage girl. I gave up in the end because unfortunately, online gaming spaces like that tend to be unsafe for women and young girls. I can't be bothered trying to learn the basics while dodging questions like 'how big do you think your characters breasts will be?'. Over it :/

[@Marewig]

I'm sorry that you had to go through all that crap. I can't give a lot of helpful suggestions, though I hope what little I can give is enough as pointers. One possible way is to find friends to be interested in it together, so at the very least you can band together in visiting a site or another, and you can help look out after one another. Another is to not mention you're a girl at the beginning. Yeah, it sucks, and in an ideal world, everybody would be free to be whoever they are online, but this is not that world. If you can find a place with enough women players/gamers ( read around the other posts in the community), then that's usually a sign that the place has a healthy community and/or moderation approach. I wish you the best and good luck.

[@sai8613]

Just a suggestion: Maybe don't use the "MAP" pride flag in the thumbnail as it gives their movement legitimacy and recognition.

[@gamingman2720]

Yes

[@AzhreiVep]

MAP?

[@nocount7517]

MAP?

[@gamingman2720]

No Count minor attracted people

[@wulfbak]

www.snopes.com/fact-check/maps-pride-flag/

[@spongie8784]

I think the worst thing in this is that she never flirted back and he didn't stop although she was under aged, she didn't even bait him despite creating a character he liked...

[@jeffreylivermore1048]

I was watching old To Catch a Predator Clip when this popped up in recommended. Good timing Crit Crab!

[@derekg5674]

You mean good timing algorithm.

[@Nazo-kage]

I don’t know how the writer was able to pull this off. I feel like I need a shower after that, And I was just listening. How the writer was able to stay undercover to get the evidence to kick this guy out is commendable.

[@Sparrow_Bloodhunter]

glitch crab at the end must have caught a Missingno.

[@alfredoguzman7455]

I didn't know Epstein was into D&D

[@malikevans634]

What sends me into hysterics is how meticulous the bait was made. You drop this in the lake, you'll immediately see a *wave* coming towards you. Edit: **Seeing the rest of the video** HOLY SHIT!

[@darthimperius2865]

To Catch a predator Netflix edition: anyone who likes or defends the "Cuties" video should go to jail.

[@exantiuse497]

I haven't seen that film, but isn't it a film OPPOSING sexualisation of minors? So do you hate people who don't like sexualising minors? Do you want minors to be sexualised?

[@darthimperius2865]

@@exantiuse497 watch it then come back and apologise for even thinking this is helping

[@omnical6135]

@@exantiuse497 "cuties" is about a child who joins a twerking club... i'm surprised you haven't heard about it it's disgusting... how could anybody think that's okay?... like actually HOW?!

[@rufusconnolly8489]

I haven't seen the film, but from everything I've read it was a film from France, made to decry the sexualization of young persons. The marketing in the US by Netflix seems to have been tasteless and caused rather a bit of hubbub. Maybe you guys should actually research things, rather than taking as read the words of social media outrage.

[@omnical6135]

@@rufusconnolly8489 well i'll educate you the actual film is JUST as bad as the us marketing there are videos talking about what's actually in the movie and how disgusting it is

[@gwynbliedd]

Killed me with the gasp after “girl AND a vampire” lol

[@josephprice6690]

I haven't watched on of your videos in a while, glad to see that things didn't get boring while I was away.

[@warlordnipple]

Just so everyone isn't confused by the internet lawyering done in this video. 1. There is no such thing as an "internet age of consent" 2. Companies that allow communication between people set their own policies for consent and those ages of consent are not legally enforceable except as a violation of the companies policies which is a contract violation. 3. Most states age of consent is 16, not just Nevada. Poster might be from CA which is surrounded by age 18 consent laws except NV, possibly why they phrased it like that. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States

[@RiverPond17]

Jesus christ I'm almost in tears. Call the police. That shit isn't okay

[@davidgreen3001]

Lmao this made you cry? Internet and real life aren't for you

[@starlightlilly7203]

God this reminds me of a guy I used to chat to when I was 14. He did all of this and we called each other daily. I was in contact with him for a year and only stopped because the creator of the server we were on caught him being creepy in general and banned the fuck outta him and had a talk with me about respecting boundaries. I’m forever thankful to them and we still keep in contact.

[@someone2447]

I like how this video doesn't have a background music but just sounds of waves, more calming than any lofi hip hop

[@jbw042300]

At least he didn’t use the classic line when she took a shower “aw come on without me”

[@EllieC130]

"She was a girl and a vampire CRIT CRAB GASP" that was magical.

[@TalkativeHands]

A great way to start the Friday morning, cringing all the way to work.

[@TheFrugalVideoGamer]

The split-personality aspect reminded me of Aloth in Pillars of Eternity, whose abusive father led to a previous incarnation of Aloth's soul to awaken and act as his defender.

[@luckyowl1681]

Oh, this story. I learned soon after a certain other party read this that I personally *know* the player behind the Drow Tavern Owner. ... It was indeed this bad.

[@kevincass9917]

So you can verify this story is true?

[@luckyowl1681]

@@kevincass9917 Yep. And that according to my friend, the OP of this post got banned for how antagonistic about the issues they were... and then the predator in question was briefly let back in... only for a singularly of upset players to tell the admins off for it and get a "form submission" system put in place for issues. I did not take my friend's invite to the server. There was also a Paladin player that got a session screwed out of their XP for "bullying" him because he suffered consequences of destroying a spellbook that was city property. Not a macguffin either. Just a spellbook.

[@kevincass9917]

@@luckyowl1681 Wow, that just sounds like a complete and utter clusterfuck.

[@lourenstanfill2061]

yes What Lucky Owl said is true, I do want to add the Admin's of the westmarch server did handle the situation. I can confirm sadly that the story is true as I am the Drow tavern owner's Player.

[@twichay1889]

@@kevincass9917 I was also on the server. It was hellish for those involved, but we’ve laughed about it since.

[@GarrettFruge]

From time to time, I do like to play at being optimistic, and so a part of me wants to hope that this may have been an eye-opening experience for Howard to chance his ways, but I doubt it. More often than not, creepers gonna creep.

[@snipecat178]

love these videos man, although I have to say I think added background music would be an improvement. Thanks Crit

[@greasysox]

Wow I haven’t felt my skin crawl for such an extended period of time

[@SpookyEggs]

Was just thinking about binging the crab, and caught this early. Ohlord

[@nathanwilliams9544]

Unfortunately people like him don't just get better. They don't see what they are doing as wrong in most cases. OP should have gotten the police involved to set up a sting operation.

[@demonic_myst4503]

how op was wrong their is no internet age of consent law and he chose an act that isnt ilegal in navada

[@BoredomBee]

@@demonic_myst4503 You missed the ending when Crit mentioned the stipulation to that law in Nevada. It's commonly referred to as the Romeo and Juliet law because the couple has to be within four years of each other if one of them is a legal adult. OP claimed to be sixteen; the pharmacy guy claimed to be twenty-two. That's six years, meaning he still would've been breaking the law.

[@laurenfaith3863]

I love your stories they even got me back into dnd

[@ericgonzalez934]

That guy on the story not only sounds like a Pedo, he sounds like an experienced one , I hope and pray that he never harms a minor

[@Cel3ere5]

"If you're going into the medical field, they're unforgiving about predatory behavior." ... Oh bless your heart, you sweet summer child. Guess she's not going into surgery.

[@HunterLvyiXIII]

Or gynecology

[@exantiuse497]

I happen to work in the medical field, and it's VERY unforgiving about stuff like that, at least where I live. If you have anything related to violent or sexual crimes against your name you're not getting through medical school, let alone find employment. Doubly do if the crimes involved minors

[@liamdalemon1525]

maybe he want's to be the kind of doctor you see in movies if you catch my drift

[@dennistravels4430]

I watched this while deadliest catch plays in the back

[@matthewschmidt3912]

OP, not only were you a trap that sprung beautifully, but I wasn't expecting that compassion, good job all around.

[@rory_person_being]

I'm absolutely stealing "he didn't just swallow the fishing line, he swallowed the boat"

[@Synystr7]

5:11 This is the literal definition of entrapment.

[@aspenamiko6058]

As someone with some form of DID, you can almost tell this person watched Split. Jokes aside, that's.. Not really now the disorder works. It's not some edgy "I turn evil when mad uwu" disorder, it's caused by childhood trauma at such a young age your personality never properly develops. No one drafts a five or six year old, man. I'm less than two minutes in and this man has already lost all credibility..

[@malikevans634]

There's a fine line where 'You're in control of your actions.' is *completely* overridden by 'Stop this shit you sicko.'

[@theunkownbanana1823]

Woo CritCrab! Kudos to you for pronouncing Nevada correctly!

[@maxxam4665]

Howard? Why not Humbert? Maybe twice Humbert Humbert.

[@danielmachado4389]

Nice reference, it suits my coffee at this time: Really dark xD

[@laziadwobbit5331]

That's a really cultured reference! 👏🏻

[@omnical6135]

i looked up humbert humbert and i just gotta say, nice dark reference

[@kendrickrochelanzot2053]

Love the chris hansen reference in the intro.

[@gazblackheart4596]

A server full of stories huh? Sounds like the start to a new series coming lol.

[@Darvids0n]

Oh no critcrab is flickering in and out of existence

[@existinginaspace8347]

Crab Lord when you gonna tell us one of your own D&D story's? Or stream your games.

[@TheBadDesperado]

The accidental king story is from his own campaign

[@jkbscopes1233]

haha creepy player go: select: all red flags

[@Creshex8]

This video was the cleanest, best pleasure!

[@YultheYak]

interesting post Crab. Thanks for putting it up.

[@AppleGonCrumble]

Less than 1 minute gang.

[@gamingman2720]

Yoooooooo

[@GrandpaShagger69]

Sup

[@zeeee8305]

Hey crab I know you don't mean anything and it's not that big a deal, but please remove the map flag from the thumbnail because it makes them feel recognised.

[@zeeee8305]

Maybe change it into a red flag or sth.

[@MalekitGJ]

@@zeeee8305 ^this Like: a red flag factory

[@charlottewalnut3118]

Or have it being set on fire by a flamethrower troop.

[@blackdynamiteak4768]

Interesting. I didn't know the term for "over-complimenting and making sexual references" was called "Grooming" I legit learned something new.

[@qwormuli77]

They most often are not, not really. But the over-complimenting and constant torrent of positive attention *_can_* be highly manipulative behaviour often called love bombing and is often used by the types of abusive actors you can easily imagine yourself. This, too, can sometimes be completely benign depending on the case, though for this I'd have serious difficulties believing so. Dude sounded like he needed an appointment with Hansen.

[@tr1f1ght3r]

Thank you CritCrab for pronouncing Nevada correctly

[@CritCrab]

I lived in Nevada

[@omnical6135]

@@CritCrab this piece of critcrab lore has gone un-noticed by most... except for me, now i know your secrets o' mighty crab

[@sonoskay]

@@CritCrab sweet mother of god. Nevadanites unite.

[@LevidelValle]

Some times you leave the server other times you CRUSADE. DEUS VULT.

[@pointynoodle]

I don't get all this convoluted stuff. Just kick him out immediately.

[@peppermintgal4302]

You'd be surprised how some people weasel their way out of situations if their crimes aren't well documented, especially if they have friends in high places. One of my sisters got hit on by a creep at work and took it to the girl who handled HR stuff, but she was a friend of the creep and had his back, and jack shit was done about it. That being said, sounds like Howard was not popular and they probably didnt need to go to these extremes. (Also, what OP did was technically on thin ice, legally speaking. It's why TCAP got shut down in the first place. Not saying what OP did was *wrong,* though, in fact, I rather approve, even if, as you say, it was rather convoluted.)

[@xzenitramx666]

The prblem is many people are acuse with no proof, like me for exm, a girl acuse me of sending her dick pics, which was false she was just salty that she was killing members of the party because she was chaotic good and harley quinn and I stop her many times, thank Ra I was able to calling her out on her bullshit.

[@danielharris6743]

I just started watching your channel a few days ago. And although I have some nightmare stories myself, they aren't nearly as bad as your all. This all makes me so sad to see such kinds of people behaving this way so often.

[@Spoonri]

I saw this when it was originally on Neckbeardia's video which was taken down for some reason. I'll be the first to say, since I'm sure the others will be coming soon, I'm a member of the server this took place on. There was so much other shit going on, most of it being "that guy" syndrome aside from the creepy perv stuff that Howard did. I was one of the few people who actively spoke with him to help try to help him change, not only his in game actions but his out of character stuff too. I'd love to list off what exactly he did but this would be a huge post. I just want to say that despite all of his actions, he was wanting to change since he is self aware in the aftermath of what he does but doesn't seem like hes making a lot of progress on that from what I could see. I'm sure he'll read my comment and get mad at me on discord but... He kinda acts like this on League of Legends too. He'll get solo killed or caught out and then try to justify it and make it seem like him getting killed was actually good or part of his master plan. Makes me super tilted lmao.

[@yoboy7031]

"Something" -someone

[@Somebody-dl8og]

Somebody

[@omnical6135]

""something"" "-someone-" -somewhere

[@catboysephiroth560]

Somewhat

[@ScreechingHermit]

Jeez the only time I’ve been this early dm’s we’re being nice in their games

[@darwinxavier3516]

"he took it so quickly, and took it hard" Uhh, phrasing?

[@EldritchMage3922]

Damn you pronounced Nevada right and it made me so happy I wanted to subscribe a second time

[@Isabelle-xp9vm]

I'm pretty sure 16 is a legal age in multiple different countries, including my own. The guy was most definitely a sick ticket, but it doesn't have that same impact as I've known friends that dated legal, much older guys at that age. The OP was also rather weird as well and just gave off vibes that nobody was really innocent in this entire scenario. This story just kind of made me shiver in disgust from both of their perspectives.

[@omnical6135]

age of consent in canada is 16, (canada's my homeland so it's the only one i know about) meaning you can consent with somebody 2 years older but anything older than that is illegal until you're 18

[@qwormuli77]

Yeah, both of them sounded plenty disturbing, especially when you consider that an op would only bring the best sides and perspectives of themselves up in the text.

[@Marcos29729]

I got to confess something. I always had a predatory behavior, but never acted and always knew it was wrong, so everytime I had a tought about doing things I should not do, I closed my eyes and said to myself "this is wrong, you should not think this kind of thing" and then turned my head away from whatever was that made me think that way. I had really long talks asking people I trusted for help, and today, for the first time, I was able to hear a story about predatory behavior and not be turned on by it, and actually feeling angry toward the villain. I can feel cured, and I can only thank my friends and family for the help they gave me. Now I can finally act with reason, and be a better men. Hearing this guys storys I can only feel sorry for him, because it's a mental disease and has treatments, but the only way to be cured of this kind of behavior is knowing that you are wrong and trying to change, but most man hears more their dicks then their brains, and end up living in this closed mind world where all their weird fantasies are normal... I feel sorry for him, but also feel angry about the things he had done.

[@justnomad0]

The Chicken knew this would be something else

[@nathlech919]

Why not take it a step further. Set up a sting op with that guys local Police Department telling him “my parents and I will be in town for a while” and get his ass arrested. If he fell for the “mute” thing, he’d probably fall for that too