Critical Drinker - Why Are Modern Movies So Negative?

[@stevecavanagh8033]

Why promote a country you want to tear down?

[@batboy5569]

tearing down is not the same as fundamentally criticizing it

[@j.menapace625]

​@@batboy5569 "Fundamentally criticize" is also not the same thing as trying to rile the masses to take action.

[@batboy5569]

@@j.menapace625 And How is he riling up the masses? Or He's putting a MASSIE awareness to let the brain dead individuals that U.S isn't all people think and that has strayed so much from tradition into bottomless pit of hell.

[@batboy5569]

@@j.menapace625 Please dont delusde yourself

[@j.menapace625]

@@batboy5569 I'll try not to "delusde" myself.

[@AV57]

It’s ok for movies to be dark and unpatriotic. Look at the original Planet of the Apes run and Terminator 1. Those are super dark and pessimistic, especially on the patriotic aspects. But they still hold out distant hope for redemption and growth. They encourage the audience to question the everyday norms without villainizing the audience.

[@TheDalinkwent]

Well..thats the difference. Those movies still feature hopeful characters and themes...these movies do not. Unless its regarding one sole person.

[@Enclavefakesoldier]

​@@TheDalinkwent which person is that?

[@TheDalinkwent]

@@Enclavefakesoldier Usually the diverse one.

[@Enclavefakesoldier]

@@TheDalinkwent too true.

[@schoolroadentertainment7631]

@@TheDalinkwent Unless we talking the horror genre, otherwise... agreed.

[@TheSeth256]

Patriotism would go against the degeneracy promoted by the current government and media.

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

Patriotism with imperialist values was already degenerate so nice try

[@brandocalrissian3294]

There are youtubers who specifically make videos to criticize the drinker. He's obviously doing something right.

[@zacharyzapata8559]

What kind of logic is that? "There are youtubers who specifically make videos to criticize Kathleen Kennedy. She's obviously doing something right".

[@drewblackmatter6669]

@@zacharyzapata8559 the difference is that Drinker, while being a drunkard is a very articulate, informative, fun, and down to earth person that people enjoy watching. Kathleen Kenedy is just an ego maniac that had to lick many boots to get where's shes at, and all she does is ruin franchises.

[@Jellybob69]

@@zacharyzapata8559 your average EFAP fan I suppose. Thick as shit.

[@CaptainRandom69]

@@zacharyzapata8559I think it’s more so, they criticize him, without reason

[@matloy9408]

There are videos of people criticizing EDP445. Does that make him right?

[@DonaldAMisc]

I will add the exception recently was "Top Gun: Maverick" but it does appear to be the exception unfortunately. 🤷‍♂️

[@GalactusOG]

there are a lot actually. This videos topic is disingenuous.

[@rockhardsolid3394]

​@@GalactusOG like......

[@kathleenhensley5951]

Last night I watched the 197_ version of Superman, the one With Christopher Reeve, I was laughing and smiling like I was a kid, again. It made me feel GOOD. I'm an old woman and I could escape into a fun movie a 2 hours. Life is challenging and painful. Grief is a constant companion.. is it so wrong that our entertainment allows us a few hours of escapism, now and then? Our entertainment shouldn't always reflect our pain and misery back ion us.

[@peterriverajr6899]

Yes it should

[@galaxymoonlqght3732]

If you believe that cinema should only be escapism than what a waste! I’m not saying escapism is bad, I love films like superman 78 and how escapism was perfectly done there but the movies I mostly remember are the ones that reflected on me as a person and the ones I learned valuable lessons from.

[@bigneiltoo]

The Star Trek Season one episode The Enemy Within (1966) had two Captain Kirks, one was stoic, the other emotional. It serves as a before and after of modern men.

[@lucios_7266]

Its not that simple; there were anti-government movies already back in 2000 like the born movies, Top Gun Maverick feels like a patriotic movie and is from 2022

[@monotech20.14]

The "Drinker" is a lying pandering ego driven HACK and a coward who will never debate anyone. He only talks to yes men.

[@johnmcternan4157]

The original Top Gun was pure MESSAGE for military recruitment too back in the day, funny how Drinker doesn't bring that up.

[@magicmoonmonke]

Ah yes, the hopeful optimism of Goodfellas, The Thing, Taxi Driver, American History X, Kill Bill, I could go on and on. To cite the lack of optimism as a reason why movies are suffering nowadays is a really big reach that ignores actual things like storytelling.

[@monotech20.14]

The "Drinker" is a lying pandering ego driven HACK and a coward who will never debate anyone. He only talks to yes men.

[@danielkrcmar5395]

Quite a list of culty films you have there.

[@penske_material]

you have a point, optimism isn't what made movies good. They used the wrong word maybe, however they aren't totally wrong. They're definitely trying to turn things around, whatever was considered good before is now bad, and the other way around.

[@Jimmy-Slims]

Those ones are predominantly non mainstream movies really....the generic blockbuster that is aimed at a wider audience is now pessimistic and very anti western. What do you expect when you have far left socialists and communists running entertainment

[@crypthulu7900]

There’s not gonna be a lot of Pro-America movies now that it’s Chinawood.

[@jaszczur3406]

Good. Down with this diabolical country

[@NathanDavis508]

I don’t really give a shit about patriotism. I just want to see a good story with good, relatable characters

[@peterriverajr6899]

Go watch the MCU you'll see that

[@NathanDavis508]

@@peterriverajr6899 😂😂😂

[@peterriverajr6899]

@@NathanDavis508 why do you think that, if you feel that way you've never watched any of the movies

[@NathanDavis508]

@@peterriverajr6899 u know, the whole world doesn’t revolve around you. Your opinion is not fact. I think the MCU is overhyped and overrated. I enjoyed some of them, but they aren’t the peak of superhero genre in my opinion

[@peterriverajr6899]

@@NathanDavis508 I didn't ask your opinion, like everyone else you've known in your life I don't care about you I know they aren't the height of cinema or even storytelling but they have good well written stories with relatable characters. That's all you said you wanted.

[@mercurialfunk]

How do you even push a pro-American film post the war in Afghanistan?

[@jensphiliphohmann1876]

The war in Afghanistan is going on.

[@Jones_to_Bear]

The substance embodies this perfectly. Completely misses the mark on its messaging, and doesn’t have a positive message, just one of despair and no hope that the patriarchy just destroys women, and there is nothing they can do about it

[@carlrood4457]

While not "patriotic", I just watched Transformers One and just love the unadulterated heroism it portrays.

[@cihuacoatl1887]

I like these dudes, but so what? should we go back to the million dollar propaganda machine that passed and still passes as movies? those were funded largely by the pentagon, the last halo show was.

[@funkydanieluk]

Modern movies/tv are endlessly negative. Men are bad, white people are bad, straight people are bad, western civilisation is bad, our capitalist system is bad, everyone is racist, everyone will die of climate change, there is nothing anyone can do. Entertainment didn't use to be this way.

[@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564]

It's not all black and white. You can tell a compelling, patriotic story without ignoring the faults in your own history. Cancelling the past and shitting on your own nation isn't a healthy point of view.

[@alinastefana4138]

Well said!

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

And what about the far left pushing their agendas in the movies coming out now

[@johnnybaxter1953]

Just because we don't want woke garbage does not mean we want government funded movies either lol. Maybe 2 things can be true at the same time

[@platty9237]

Yuri said we need patriotism to work out of the social division. I think the oligarchs know it, so they keep that out of our purview. I think this is deliberate. They want the division, because they’re far less likely to face accountability.

[@josueveguilla9069]

That is an excellent question.

[@GalactusOG]

not really.

[@virgiliovargas3052]

"War on terror" = (another) Oil war

[@ms.geek1016]

Pushing on exploring within yourself now. Waking up

[@agentefren]

I like usually enjoy the drinkers takes. That said his Barbie review completely missed the message of the movie. He kind of twisted it to fit his view of what he hates about movies right now. It sucks because I was interested to hear his take on how the Barbieland was a horrible place for the Kens. He seemed to think the writers were trying to portray it as a paradise and how the world should be, when they weren’t going for that at all. They were trying to show that women ruling everything would also suck and we need balance

[@jeffersonhassan4558]

He's far better than his buddy nerdrotic

[@matloy9408]

A lot of media in the 90's to early 2000's felt reflective of the tensions in the Middle East, the War on Terror and the Bush administration in general. Peter Jackson's Lord of The Rings, Star Wars prequels, Transformers, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Call of Duty, Gears of War, Halo, and many more. The way the heroes and villains were portrayed felt familiar to what was actually happening in the world, at least from an average American's perspective. Maybe it was all propaganda or just capitalizing off the end of the post modernistic world. Still better than now, where political commentary is as deep as a pothole.

[@jgnogueira]

Of course it was all propaganda lmao , the the organaziations they were fighting had nothing to do with 9/11 to begin with.

[@chey6073]

LOTR in no way reflected conflict in the Middle East. Tolkien served in WW1, its a reflection of that and industrialization.

[@expertexcrementexpediter]

I think a lot of it has to do with what has happened in the name of the American people and on our dime; things like Abu Graib, Guantanamo, the revelations of Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning, "weapons of mass destruction", the extrajudicial execution of American citizens under Obama and others (to say nothing of all the non-combatants killed in other countries), and the list goes on. That even if the cause was just (and it turned out the cause was predicated on deceit) "our" subsequent actions have often not been. The urge to turn one's back (at the least) on the institutions that perpetrated such things, and those that supported and those that sought to cover up those things is undeniable.

[@HolyMith]

Western countries are sometimes victims of their own success when it comes to public image. We have a very open and transparent system compared to most countries, and it makes all of the dirty spots stand out. On top of that, we have been recording our history as faithfully as possible for a long time compared to other civilisations. These things have led to an epidemic of self-deprecation, guilt and faithlessness (not necessarily in the religious sense but that too) in Western countries. If you dig a little bit, you can find hints of the same crap and far worse in other countries' histories, it's just not as well known.

[@merlin5662]

​@@HolyMith I disagree, western nations appear to be more faithful but in reality we are better at keeping secrets then other non western countries (the u.s being the worse offender). We champion our democracy but in reality we often break such processes and people don't realise it (if I had a penny of the u.s interfering in other democratic counties processes I would have a dollar or morer). In reality we often record the wrong doing of other countries (in particular Russia and China) and how bad they were while omitting certain history that makes western countries bad, the middle east is probably the most well known example of this. When you record history remember "history is written by the victors"

[@beingsshepherd]

Indeed, it raises disturbing questions as to what our friends, neighbours and families secretly stand for. White supremacy, Islamophobia, U.S. world government, merciless trolling of the conscientious.

[@vancityguy]

Two words: progressive socialism/marxism.

[@sheriffmohammed3885]

Reason why 24 worked so well

[@tallerwarrior1256]

We’re basically going through another sixties era of films we’re we just got out of a war and we’re starting to face the consequences and issues of the war and also general cultural issues of the United States. Normally when there is some sort of war or conflict Hollywood starts pumping out a ton of pro America or very heavy government/military drama or action films focused on the current conflict specifically. The 80s were mostly focused on the end of the Cold War and then the war on drugs with films like Red October being followed up by Clear and Present Danger. You can bet your ass that Hollywood would’ve started cooking up some sort of Ukrainian war film if the United States ever started sending troops.

[@jgnogueira]

You are correct, in the 70s that were a lot of war movies and 80s a lot of patriotism movies because of the cold wars, even american actors doing russian characters lmao.

[@tallerwarrior1256]

@@jgnogueira Yup then in the early 2000s most action films centered around the war on terror whether it be with troops in the Middle East or characters that were a part of some sort of government agency that was supposed to be or was Homeland Security CIA. Hell it’s even noticeable in early Transformers and Star Trek reboot movies.

[@chey6073]

@@tallerwarrior1256Further illustrated by the fact that the govt help fund the earlier Transformers. If you portray the govt (or at least the US soldiers) in a positive light, it’s much easier to get your hands on their vehicles and weapons for your movie. Transformers Revenge of the Fallen even leaked the fact that the US had a railgun, which was unknown to other countries!

[@johnashbaugh4663]

I live on the wrong side of the fence dude. I'm in California and I can take a rock on my balcony and hits the sand on the beach. Do you think for one second This is Not By Design?

[@samanthat7553]

Wtf are you talking about?

[@Excard0n]

The Chinese movie market is demanding these movements

[@drluckydk1]

The Trump effect. Where you are made to feel wrong having any patriotism because the left was so traumatized.

[@elliotjames1273]

What a moronic comment lol

[@BillMan5000]

I don’t see how inciting an insurrection is patriotic but you do you I guess.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Lol trump is a joke who should be behind bars.

[@Nightdiver20]

@@BillMan5000 Insurrection? Is that where a guy with a funny hat gets escorted around a public building by security?

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

​@@BillMan5000Why do you see the world in extremes there are normal people in the world yk

[@samdung5630]

Globalism

[@jawwad1189]

They never found WMDs ?

[@JamesMcQueen74]

Drinker on point 99% of the time -

[@Whatreally123]

America was fighting the war on terror? 😂😂😂😂 Facade of fighting terror to destroy many countries for oil and other things. Hey but the movies were good.

[@kattimate]

If you only have tunnel vision on one country, you miss the same misdoings that your own is doing. You starting to sound like the Chinese leader XD

[@Whatreally123]

@@kattimatemy own? And i sound like the Chinese leader? Instead of just blurting out words which make no sense, why don't you give specific examples of any other country who has invaded as much as the US under a false guise of fighting terrorism or protecting the native people. You can't cos there isn't any.

[@leadzeppbelly]

“War on terror”. My god, Critical Drinker is naive

[@johnmcternan4157]

​@@leadzeppbelly his books are literally the war on terror squared. But then he says don't write about the modern world, we just want entertainment. Does this moron know he is the unwitting proponent of propaganda himself?

[@nicopillay4059]

After the onslaught of Marvel films, its no wonder that John Wick, an evil murderous anti hero, spawned four successful movies

[@GalactusOG]

Well, they are movies. They are not real.

[@youlig1]

Movies are real, art is real. And it's very important. The ideals of a culture determine it's structure...

[@GalactusOG]

@@youlig1 Art is subjective. People see what they want to see.

[@youlig1]

@@GalactusOG Art is also collective. If it was entirely subjective people wouldn't share standards of quality when it comes to cinema. Movies are really because they engage the mind deeply, especially good movies. They make people cry, they make people think, they make people reinvent themselves. Art is a powerfull force in the psyche. That's why i took objection to your statement that "They are not real" It misses a point in my opinion.

[@youlig1]

@@GalactusOG Also, often movies do reflect political and cultural trends. Which is what is alluded to in the video. So i find your response a bit odd, a weird criticism

[@GalactusOG]

​@@youlig1 There are plenty of patriotic and positive movies and TV shows though. you just don't see them because you don't want to.

[@sup3414]

Only right wing nationalists are the ones getting triggered that a movie ain't "patriotic"🙄

[@UteChewb]

I noticed years ago an interesting tactic by Hollywood. Conspiracies where the government would do something terrible, "off the books", and the brave hero would defeat them and save democracy and freedom. The trouble was the strategy was clearly attempting to pander to the left and right: validating "establishment" conspiracies of corrupt senators etc for the left and supporting libertarian views of the independent rogue outsider winning in the end. The end result I could see would be to validate conspiracies, and encourage distrust in elected representatives. The obvious conclusion was that Democracy was flawed. I realised that 20 years ago but didn't add 2 + 2 to see that it implied the solution would be a demagogue, the "hero" in charge. Hollywood fkd up America in search of profits.

[@koketsoomarmasombuka3395]

We need Superman

[@closetevangelism]

Will Jordan without sunglasses is frickin weird

[@karimblix4378]

America lost the war on terror

[@steviewang4102]

The Critical Drinker’s for reactionaries who hate modern culture, not actual people who watch movies. 99% of his audience don’t even watch the movies he reviews (especially the ones he’s critical of) and I doubt he even does himself. Anyone who actually watches cinema knows that “negativity” has ALWAYS existed in American cinema. You think the cynical film-noirs of the 1930s-50s (Touch of Evil, The Third Man, The Night of the Hunter) and nihilistic new Hollywood films of the 60s-80s (The Godfather, Bonnie and Clyde, Chinatown) were positive?

[@johnmcternan4157]

They have no interest in the world beyond a narrow range of films, long past time for them to expand their horizons.

[@helmutweikert3054]

I dont miss Michael Bay movies. We've had enough fricken Transformers 🎬.

[@bugsy742]

Cia money left Hollywood and went to the net, simples

[@TheGavrael]

Well Drinker and Chris, that's just Chinatown.

[@danielbrowniel]

Hitler had a dog

[@lboiv001]

There are soft cowards in ou4r country now who would wilt and cry in the face of a dangerous outside threat. Cry uncle and beg for mercy instead of locking arms with your brothers and sisters (in the face of danger (regardless of political opinions) - is a foeign concept now. Hence the domestic support for Hamas.

[@keyman6689]

Hollywood makes movies for a global audience now. Decades ago, "American movies" were actually made for Americans. Now, they are sensitive to other nationalities with a focus on the international market and the box office revenue that can be made there. Movies like Fast X are mild here, but popular overseas, so it's pretty important for these big budget gambles.

[@kattimate]

Hence why the movies are shit. They've become a bunch a people pleasers who couldn't make a good movie to save their own lives while looking down on western culture

[@alinastefana4138]

I propose going back to the war on terror so Hollywood can make propaganda movies again! 😊

[@Anthonycheesman33]

I can’t believe anyone actually cares what critical drinker thinks lol.

[@iDeathMaximuMII]

You seem to be one of the very few who don't

[@Darkstar_Dayne]

Millions of people who watch his videos

[@drewblackmatter6669]

your face tells me everything i need to know about you

[@tjjordan4207]

A lot of us listen to him because he speaks the truth. He's putting into words on how we all feel towards the entertainment industry and politics, and he isn't afraid to voice how he feels. I don't agree on everything but I know he's trustworthy.

[@martinjohnson4796]

He has millions of subscribers

[@pedrobarroso8330]

The war on terror, also known as the Israeli wars...

[@auroraSLAP]

Hey give me a good story with good characters and I won’t care either way about patriotism

[@peterriverajr6899]

Go watch the MCU it has good stories

[@auroraSLAP]

@@peterriverajr6899 uhhh it HAD good stories

[@peterriverajr6899]

@@auroraSLAP it still does and if you don't think you haven't seen of them

[@auroraSLAP]

@@peterriverajr6899 riiiiight 😬

[@peterriverajr6899]

@@auroraSLAP I am correct I've seen every MCU and most comic book movies in general. The quality hasn't gone down just the intelligence level of the people who are watching it

[@KennethBlum-sl6rx]

Subverting or expectations.🤡💩

[@Ruweisat]

Top Gun 2 was patriotic and did very well, but Hollywood didn’t like it much.

[@chey6073]

That movie is a part of Hollywood. It couldn’t the top grossing movie of that year AND one of the top grossing movies of all time without it

[@vigneshpadinjakkara]

But most early 2000s war movies are trash. It's a whole different thing when it comes to the Vietnam war. The way i see it , us need to lose another war so that the non americans like us can enjoy decent movies on war .

[@kattimate]

Hoping more people in the world are slaughtered so America can make non American movies says plenty about you. If you don't like American movies or culture than why talk about America and whine about it? You sound like the typical person who moves to another Country just to whine about it.

[@ge9367]

Algorithm

[@jeremiahbristow7609]

I mean...isn't it dangerous to be too pro your own country?

[@drewblackmatter6669]

no?

[@kellenwong1682]

Look at the American religious alt-right, the Chinese government and the growing ultranationalism and historical revisionism in Japan before answering that. Alternatively, look at WW2 history for answers.

[@marcane6122]

Bruh you aint even American tho. Dont worry about us we good.

[@trouble820]

GEE what could make Hollywood hostile to America? What could it be. Real mystery there mainstream Whyte youtube guys.

[@funkydanieluk]

I'm not sure what you are implying. the fact you don't like "whyte" guys suggests you think Hollywood has a good reason, but I don't know what you are thinking of.

[@trouble820]

​@@funkydanieluk I don't have any guilt and neither should you. The people that run Hollywood hate America. Why that is happening, you should ask who runs Hollywood. It is not a mystery.

[@wade2bosh]

racist youtube comments guy

[@iDeathMaximuMII]

The fact you put White guys & even spelled white wrong just tells me you're most likely brain dead

[@thebyronicmann]

Look up MKUltra and you’ll find most answers to your Hollywood questions. Note: DO NOT RESEARCH ON GOOGLE…