Drinker's Chasers - Hollywood's Ridiculous Double Standards

Isn't it funny how attractive women and sensuality are practically forbidden in movies today, and yet big, buff, shirtless men are seemingly everywhere. Almost seems like a... double standard?
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[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Actresses cry about being sexualised in film, then turn up to the award ceremony in transparent dresses.

[@sigmacademy]

Still has nothing on the "runway" outfits in the fashion events. One such event LITERALLY just has women wearing some kind of "tape". VERY revealing swimwear is also very much still a thing in such events, so Hollywood is VASTLY out of touch with the average person.

[@wotever99ninynine]

😂 So true

[@Mopsey]

Yes, because they have to. It's an extension of the job, in which they allow themselves to be objectified. And you know what? Brie Larson looks goooood

[@michaelkrull3331]

Well, when the studios do it, it's exploitation. When the actresses do it it's empowerment.

[@Stevoman123]

Amen

[@CAP198462]

“It’s not about what the audience wants, it’s about what the writers want you to see,” Truth. Good job Drinker.

[@polderrican]

This would be totally fine if the writers were competent, or at least artistic minded trying to create good art. But this is about creating a new culture, not art.

[@denkerbosu3551]

​@@polderrican not everyone's fit to be an artist, oe at least a successful one. The market should be the one to decide if someone's hobby is profitable. I consider artist a hobbyist until proven otherwise.

[@matthewstubbs4413]

It's not about the writers it's about what the elite are pushing , they have enough money but they want to push away from natural norms and make people against each other

[@archstanton9073]

@@polderrican Hopefully the AI will give us what we want.

[@polderrican]

@@denkerbosu3551 the market is what tells us that avengers is peak art. That's bs, not everyone is an artist, but that doesn't change the fact that objectively speaking Stanley Kubrick was a better artist than James Gunn, regardless of ticket sales. My whole point was that a true artist like the one mentioned above should not be forced to throttle, or water down, their art to please the audience

[@JMyoutube1]

A big part of Black Widows power was her beauty. Lure the men in with her beauty, and then strike them unexpected and in a weak spot.

[@Stevarooni]

She realized this in _Endgame_ and resigned herself to her fate.

[@Knight_Kin]

Now instead they want Fat Widow, she entraps men with her huge girth and eats them in a 4 size too small 'outfit'

[@averagechadlegionary5824]

@@Knight_KinMe HUNGRY!

[@WayStedYou]

like some kind of black widow.

[@frankgesuele6298]

@@WayStedYou 🕸🕸🕷🕷

[@fr0ck360]

Among Us popularized the word of “Sus” The Act Man popularized the word of “Modern Gaming” Now Drinker popularized the word of “The Message”

[@sigmacademy]

Battlestar Galactica popularized the word "Frak", which is what we generally say when a modern day movie of a political kind drops? XD

[@richardhockey8442]

'for a modern audience' the inscription on the tombstone of Hollywood

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@richardhockey8442 lololol somebody please turn this into a memeable image

[@kri249]

Sus? As in short for suspect? That's been an Australian saying for decades.

[@SythonToTheZ]

@@kri249 can confirm - sus has been common Australian slang for ages

[@Charlie_Rowe]

It's weird that Disney sexualizes their kid shows and child stars, but de-sexualizes their adult stars in adult targeted media. But, I'm sure that's not intentional. 🤔

[@lanegibson5926]

Right? Just imagine the atrocities that happen to child stars behind the scenes within Disney…

[@medigoomnis]

Ooooh I'm suuuuure it's just your imagination...!

[@chasehedges6775]

They had a kid running around in his underwear in the Jungle Book Book Remake.

[@JohrnyReport]

Oh vey.

[@skylx0812]

@@lanegibson5926 When Christian Bale was 18, he starred in the Disney musicsl "Newsies". In an interview Bale said the cast of young people were mostly child prostitutes. They would film during the day and the kids would make contacts then retun to the lots that were closed with their "clients". He said there was a lot of that going on throughout the filming of the movie. If there's a production with huge cast of kids, that just means more than one kind of business is going on.

[@sclarin2]

"They go out of their way to make women unappealing" Mission accomplished all these modern female "heroes" are extremely unappealing to the point that i've stopped watching

[@fredo1070]

The Road Warrior was the American title for Mad Max 2.

[@Chris-ji4iu]

I've stopped going altogether. I didn't even see Top Gun: Maverick in the theater (which I regret tbh).

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Chris-ji4iu Top Gun Maverick is one last good movies of all time

[@bob_1216]

Porn is free you freak

[@ravenlorans]

Because Hollywood is Slowing Revealing that MOST ( did NOT say ALL ) of the Leading "Ladies" are actually MtF Transgendered and that is why they are So Stick Like.. And the Older they get, the More Obvious it is..

[@Mr.Linguini]

It’s funny how adult-oriented media from Disney is sexually muted, yet every teen show and the like from Disney is about getting mad amounts of sexy time in high school or smth

[@chazbertino6102]

Teen Disney shows sexualize teens... Good to know Dan Schneider found work at the Disney Channel. lol

[@mnomadvfx]

Because the teen stuff is targetted at teenage girls, and the rest is targetted at older teenage girls to young women who have been brainwashed by the mind virus dogma of perpetual victimhood commonly known as modern feminism.

[@actuallynotsteve]

They're doing literal mock cumshots on teenage girl's feet in Dan whatever his name is shows (the fat predator guy that directs them all), but can't have Scarjo show sideboob.

[@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme]

How

[@actuallynotsteve]

@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme Look up all the shit about the creep that is Dan Schnieder if you dare, or the compilations of the super gross sexual stuff in all those shows meant for like pre-teens. He's a got a foot fetish too. It's so disturbing, and there are lots of rumors that he's the guy who knocked up Brittney Spear's younger sister, among other things.

[@Axiom-ug3js]

The hypocrisy of these actresses (yes not actors) is that, even though they cover up in the movies, they still show up to galas, awards ceremonies, Instagram, on skimpy outfits, and even bathing suits

[@kazimirmcfoster5631]

or nude and having sekts in their personal photos.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

I am reminded more of Emilia Clarke, who was thrilled to be hired for a role where she showed her chesticles as much as possible, but then protested the second she became influential enough to. Suddenly too prudish to admit that those things are what her career was founded on... and now is foundering without them.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@HerculesBallsInc Emilia Clarke just isn't that good of an actress - she's not even that attractive. The notoriety of that Drogo/Danaerys sex scene helped sell GoT to uninitiated viewers along with the rest of the sex related storylines and imagery - without it her career will just flop.

[@TrooperJT]

Yup. As critical drinker said , “They want to eliminate the entire concept of sexuality”…… except when it comes to children in elementary school

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

Indoctrination, ample supply of gullible and naive confused youngsters and getting paid to boot! All the priests in Vatican City is fuming with envy, I bet.

[@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329]

Based

[@joe6167]

also, In the Western worId right now, women are being rąpęd and trafficked on an industriaI scaIe, but Iiterally no one cares.

[@mosshivenetwork117]

Not based

[@daryltor7608]

If you’re watching blockbusters maybe but not really if it’s ALL films.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Hypocrisy from Hollywood? Imagine my shock.

[@chasehedges6775]

Hollywood is it's own worst enemy. They have themselves to blame

[@hebanker3372]

I'll do you one better. Hypocrisy from women? Imagine my shock.

[@TheSmokingMustache]

The non consensual sex scene outrage was nicely exemplified in Goblin Slayer, it's an anime about horrific little green monsters and the guy who's whole life mission is to erradicate them. Twitter lost their minds about the little that they showed, missing the fact that part of the point is to show you that Goblin Slayer is in the right to kill them all, to let you root for him.

[@damp2269]

i guess none of those "anime fans" know berserk is a thing. that's probably a good thing otherwise i fear for their sanity.

[@MajorSmurf]

@@damp2269 Oh Twitter finally found out about Berserk like a few months back. Itsagundam has a video showing their reaction. You can imagine what it was like.

[@jasonfromguitarcenter]

He Should’ve Been More Violent Towards Them In The 1st Place

[@TheSmokingMustache]

@@damp2269 Would make sense that anime fans don't know much about Berserk since its anime adaptations have basically been shit. Coming as a guy who was solely an anime fan for more than a decade before I got into manga, I didnt know about Berserk outside of it's boring/terrible adaptions until a couple years ago after I got way more into manga.

[@Shape430]

The first adaptation wasn't bad if you could get past the really terrible animation, after awhile you kinda get used to it. But the one that was all CG I couldn't watch more then one ep, it was just too terrible looking even compared to the old one.

[@heraldofwar]

Male gaze = Evil Female gaze = acceptable

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Not acceptable, encouraged

[@wumpusrat]

It's because they labor under this bizarre mindset where women are sexless robots with zero libido. They think that if a man sees a hot, scantily-clad woman, his mind suddenly turns to all sorts of evil, sexist thoughts about possessing her, etc. And they simultaneously think that if a woman sees a hot, scantily-clad man, that we think about doing our taxes or what we're going to have for lunch.

[@addictiontransfer3731]

Female gaze= "taking the power back" and "important" their words not mine

[@steveouk90126]

Gay gaze = acceptable... wait, no, we want sexy guys and not RuPaul's vile nonsense.

[@seaofenergy2765]

Although theres an exception ( but luckily it conveniently aligns with female gaze: acceptable) gay male gaze : acceptable Its like only females and gay men make movies and shows now

[@laurie6736]

Chris Gore’s analysis of the morality of Hollywood and hotphobic execs who hate fit and beautiful women could not be more on point.

[@MasterMalrubius]

Unless they're banging them on the office couch.

[@kaminsod4077]

​@@justin.channels Just typical KZbin censorship/shadow banning.

[@birgittabirgersdatter8082]

@@justin.channels you tube censors comments it doesn’t like. Apart from your comment and mine, there should be 3 other comments.

[@robinthrush9672]

You can get missing comments to reappear by changing the comment sort to "Newest First." It's weird, but it works (for now).

[@Soundwave142]

Women being sexualized, are eye candy, or actually indecent because they are scantily clad or exposing "too much skin," is a valid problem, except their intent is not to preserve or restore a woman's dignity, it is just an excuse to "smash the patriarchy." Also, though, I think it not the case now because of modern Hollywood, but a sign of a bad or hack film is that they use sex appeal to make up for their lack of talent. It brings to mind, the women in Red Alert 2 and 3. In Red Alert 2, the women were "pretty lady" but in Red Alert 3 in "sexy lady."

[@alexfriedman918]

I think recent feminist “comedies” have clearly shown that a lot of these bitter angry hypocrites despise attractive women even more than they hate men! Ideology is a part of it, but pure old-fashioned envy and jealousy might have even more to do with this…

[@LeviathantheMighty]

Exactly. Modern Feminists are miserable and hateful. They want men to be women and women to be men. They're anti human.

[@kaczan3]

That's just not true. No one hates attrective chicks, no one puts them in jail on false accusations, no one completely ruins them. They only hate fectional depictions of attractive chicks, because that's what guys enjoy and they hate guys enjoying something. But with you "critics" it's always the same. It always has to go full circle to "chicks most affected". BTW, name one book, show or movie made by chicks for chicks that got ruined. Only guys' stuff gets ruined.

[@Jadty]

@@kaczan3 Old ugly fat women hate younger fit beautiful women.

[@msudoc]

You nailed it. Women hate other women, especially if they are attractive. Suddenly now that all the ugly feminists hold all this power, we get androgynous female Mary Sues, or fat sassy boss ladies. These morons actually think they are going to change the way the sexes view each other.

[@poocrayon4588]

Their feminist ideology stems from the worst female instincts, it's not some seperate thing

[@carlrood4457]

I like to say this about Star Wars: "A young squire invades the castle of the Black Knight to rescue the princess and becomes a knight." It's about the most basic romantic adventure plot there is.

[@mnomadvfx]

True but visually and plot wise George plagiarised scenes from a bunch of films to create A New Hope. Off the top of my head Hidden Fortress and The Dambusters were 2 films with clear visual similarities in certain scenes.

[@AdamantLightLP]

@mnomadvfx Not really plagiarism...

[@sgtNACHO]

Movies for adults are losing amy kind of sexuality and movies for kids are pushing sexual identity and sexuality. Crazy fucked up world we got here.

[@dragonmaster1360]

@sgtNACHO Of course they are. Gotta get them while they're young and gullible! Adults can see through the lies and bs (usually) that the alphabet mafia are preaching. Kids can't, and are a LOT easier to condition, indoctrinate, and control.

[@junior523]

Not saying i don't believe you but do you mind giving examples of children's movies with sexualization.

[@MMDelta9]

It is the height of irony that we live in an era that simultaneously castigates and decries any form of sexualization of women from *fictional movies...* But thots on OnlyFans are lionized despite it being objectively *worse* for a woman.

[@alexfriedman918]

Yep, it kind of supports my envy and jealousy theory. Bitter angry feminists despise attractive women, don’t like them shown as sexy in movies, but seem to want good looking girls to go straight from high school to OnlyFans! EMPOWERMENT? I think not…

[@Jadty]

Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

[@MMDelta9]

@@Jadty ...huh?

[@cryforthemoon]

@@alexfriedman918 You might also notice that the women telling girls to not sell their bodies are the same one that did sell their bodies before (became old) and if they could still sell their bodies they would be and singing it's praises. They never talk about the negative psychological stuff from selling your body, just that men are bad blah blah blah.

[@jamesb.russell2942]

^ whoosh

[@robertmichel4063]

14:00 "You can't have it both ways." Yes, they think they can. It's called feminism.

[@stevecrescini2081]

You can have it both ways if you’re trans

[@sijul6483]

Feminism is just Marxism wearing a skirt... I mean pantsuit.

[@alm5266]

If feminists didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards.

[@mnomadvfx]

No they can't - they can have it both ways in terms of getting away with it, but the studios bottom lines dropping through the floor are a demonstration that THEY clearly can't have it both ways at all.

[@burtleturtle0012]

The best part about actresses "discouraging the male gaze" in movies; they all like to look sexy and feminine for award ceremonies.

[@richardhockey8442]

'discouraging the male gaze' right out of the theater before the film ends

[@mnomadvfx]

@@richardhockey8442 I precede that by not even going to the theater these days. Maybe when I feel safer spending 2+ hours in a closed, lightly ventilated room with dozens of strangers I might entertain going back to the cinema again - but not while it's like this, there's just no upside for me these days. If VR headsets become good enough for a cinema like experience at home in the next few years I might never go back again.

[@Rashomon69]

“HBO was built on tits.” This child of the 80s can confirm. My friends and I used to scour the HBO guide for phrases like “brief nudity” and “strong sexual content”. Then, we stayed up until 3AM hoping to catch a glimpse of tits before we fell asleep.

[@tremblind]

Not so much anymore.

[@thatguyoverthere2288]

The TV guide was a godsend

[@belbo1221]

Yeah, "Dream On" was basically "Friends" with added silicone (and better writing/acting).

[@Indians-dl3to]

The only good thing about modern times is that you can watch these shows anywhere on the Internet.

[@brando3424]

yeah and stars after dark had those erotic pornos that came on around 3am. those were the good times of cable

[@thetruth4654]

Society is so weird right now, people supposedly cannot be judged for publicly sharing stuff like their fetish online, but at the same time OnlyFans or sex work is supposedly empowered work. But oh no we cannot have any hint of the female form, because women can be just as masculine and strong as men.

[@lanegibson5926]

Exactly what I was thinking. Women being sexual and selling nudes is empowering, but it’s disgusting and objectifying if a film features a sexy women in revealing clothing?? I don’t care if women do OnlyFans. I don’t care if women wear revealing clothing in film and tv. But this shit? Make it make sense, people. Lmao

[@chasehedges6775]

@@lanegibson5926👍😊

[@LaifuHaiku]

Whichever can benefit them more. That's their rule.....although yeah i still don't understand how it benefits them desexualizing women in movie except to give older actress chance to compete with younger one.

[@CursedWheelieBin]

These aren’t widely held beliefs by the majority of society though. Just a few extremists and famous idiots. Their muppet “followers” don’t believe it either. They’re just malleable because they’re young and dumb. They’ll unbelieve this stuff in a year or two and it’ll be onto the next crap. None of this affects us other than women in movies aren’t sexy anymore. Whatever 🤷🏻‍♂️. If I wanna see an attractive woman on a screen, there’s plenty of free content out there that’ll scratch that itch 😈. These are non-issues

[@thetruth4654]

@@LaifuHaiku True, but many of the older women actors that still get roles, usally get these acting jobs do so, due to there merit and success that they have achieved in the past.

[@satangavemeataco419]

I love that we live in an era where stuff like OnlyFans, sex work and surgery is deemed "empowering for women", but hot women in entertainment is deemed "problomatic". Also cosplay exist and with how some of those girls look proportion wise.. unrealistic body standerds my *ss.

[@zackyezek3760]

It’s not that complicated. Hollywood and similar centers of culture have been taken over by crazy & fugly women (and their male equivalents). Those people are fine with everything BUT normal, attractive women, because the contrast shows just how gross and unpleasant they are. It’s the reason these same people push BS like “body positivity”, AKA the propaganda demanding we pretend grossly fat woke landwhales are attractive & healthy.

[@tomcoop9750]

Toxic feminism

[@Ilyak1986]

The difference: are the women getting paid for it and worshipped? No? It's toxic objectification. Yes? It's empowering. Wheeze.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@tomcoop9750 that's redumbdant

[@tomcoop9750]

@@marbellaotaiza801 only if toxic masculinity is

[@Fairred6507]

The women's personalities are as unappealing as possible, too.

[@tis7963]

In the film Jungle Cruise, the amount of effort expended to avoid any hint of female sexuality was insane. Every shot with Emily Blunt was blocked out with the sole purpose of keeping her tits and ass out of the frame. It got to be funny, and then distracting.

[@chasehedges6775]

As much as I loved that movie, yeah, that's definitely true. Didn't have any problem making sure to show off Dwaynes Johnson’s physique tho. 🤷‍♂️

[@doc_adams8506]

That sounds like a drinking game waiting to happen. Every time they crop her chest, take a drink!

[@mnomadvfx]

That's just so sad, because they certainly didn't do the same for Dwayne Johnson. Emily Blunt is smoking hot, and in that sort of climate too getting all sweaty..... what a tragic waste.

[@canebro1]

Which is double sad. She was in The Edge of Tomorrow, and there were a couple scenes of her being really sexy while also appropriately clothed. It is possible to do both.

[@MarcioSilva-vf5wk]

She hulk was an example, she sexualize Cap Americ by the point that the phone wallpaper was his ass. Now imagine something like this gender swapped, the outrage...

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

In the comics She Hulk knows she's smoking hot and plays into it. She has absolutely no problem being seen as sexy. I still can't believe how badly D+ ruined Jen Walters. They took a character that could have been Marvel's Wonder Woman and made her selfish and unlikable.

[@KeytarArgonian]

‘I have to deal with getting catcalled in the streets!’😂

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Y'all can thank the Russo's for starting to comment on his ass in Endgame

[@spider-man9118]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp insert vine boom here

[@Anthyrion]

You know, i never watched the last Thor movie. I saw only that, what was shown in the trailers and especially the scene, where Chris Hemsworth's Thor tries to negotiate with Zeus. First Zeus chains him, then strips him completly naked with a magic spell, so that the audience can see Hemsworth's naked butt. And now imagine the same scene, but with Natalie Portman's "Thor". You can not tell me, that if there would be a scene filmed like this and shown in cinemas, that the same people, who think, that it is alright to show Hemsworth completly naked, won't be raging across the cinema and the streets.

[@audreyandremington5265]

Im a straight female and I do not think that was at all appropriate. Personally, I don't want *any* fanservice in my media. I understand that sometimes sex and nudity is important for a plot, but it needs to be filmed in order to convey the story, not in order to give the audience a "treat". I feel like that's an unpopular opinion though and I don't understand why.

[@aldunlop4622]

You’re lucky, I tried to give it a go but it was just awful. Within 10 minutes I’d had enough. Not watching the rest.

[@sigmacademy]

The movie kinda hinted at the female Thor and Valkyrie possibly being subjected to the same treatment, but then refusing to be put in that situation. That being said, What Josiah Saw (2022) had an final scene which showed a brother and sister committing incest at a hotel from a referenced scene earlier in the movie (to highlight the truth about a lie told earlier in the movie), and that scene has a justification of being in a movie that is all about temptation, corruption and how dysfunctionality in families have lasting effects for the children if not addressed. Although, to be honest, I did find that scene with the Zeus entourage fainting at the sight (including a male guard) WAS kinda funny, even if it made no sense considering the location. It hinted at a filmmaker that was willing to put some edgy humor in there, unlike the other entries in the cinematic landscape that are usually humorless and who fails to recognize the positive effect a single joke or moment of humor can have in an otherwise serious movie. (not the usual Marvel approach of non-stop humor).

[@chasehedges6775]

@@aldunlop4622 The whole film is garbage from beginning to end, really.

[@damp2269]

@@audreyandremington5265 imo fanservice is just like everything else, it has a time and a moment and can be used properly or terribly, just depends on what you are telling and how.

[@weswolever7477]

We’ll know the true extent of Drinker’s power when everyone ends their conversation with “ that’s all I’ve got for today - Go away now”

[@campbellsoup93]

Don't sign up for a superhero movie if you don't want to be sexualized. Simple as that. Superheroes are meant to be ideals both morally and physically. They're all built like greek statues. I never see anyone complaining about how the male characters are all jacked, frequently shirtless and in skin tight clothing. And this goes for the comics as well as the movies. Namor, for the longest time in the comics, wore a speedo as his costume. That's it. A speedo and nothing else. And no one said a word. But have Huntress in a costume that shows off her abs and suddenly it's 'demeaning' and 'oversexualization'. It's ridiculous.

[@rustyshackelford4224]

I'm a guy, and I was never complaining about how comicbooks love sexualizing Namor or Night Wing/Dick Grayson...

[@stein857]

Pamela panderson being an elitist b*tch as usual

[@richardgarner2510]

If they didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any...

[@Fangface74]

I'm using this!

[@jamespfp]

That's the funny thing about inconsistency for sure. In practice, the double standard cancels itself out, leaving nothing.

[@Tony_409]

Just wait until they have triple or quadruple standards

[@chaddfrancis2179]

Stealing this.

[@richardgarner2510]

@Fang Face use it well friend

[@deeesher]

To me, one of the most egregious moments in the Disney Star Wars era was seeing the giant serving tray covering Ashoka's breasts in Rebels. Seeing her new outfit made me realize, we will never get a Slave Leia in Disney Star Wars. The 'brothel' scene in Andor confirmed this. God forbid you show any women (or even Twi'leks) trying to entice clientele.

[@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329]

Respect sex workers! Unless it's censoring them on any kind of media lol

[@chasehedges6775]

Modern Disney Star Wars js garbage but Andor was really good

[@LaifuHaiku]

Well the force is female and all that. So the force being the force covered the raunchy alien ladies from the audience

[@alexfriedman918]

@@LaifuHaiku At this point, I’m afraid the force is she-male!

[@deeesher]

@@chasehedges6775 I thought Andor was okay, and maybe a bit overrated. The unnecessary flashbacks and pacing was really slow. Plus it's strange to me that the Empire would have a prison with only human men, and zero aliens or droids working (or even as guards). I can't imagine they never captured a Wookiee that would definitely help in their production. Plus as I mentioned, the brothel scene at the beginning was extremely watered down. Again, I kinda liked it and there's plenty of moments to appreciate, but it could have been much better.

[@AnthonyF1227]

Personally, I'm cool with there being more modesty in media (for both sexes). The problem is when women are no longer feminine. The scene you described with Han & Leia, Leia is not showing off her body at all. She's dressed very modestly, but yet she can still be quite feminine and sexy. Go back to the classic movies and women didn't show nearly as much skin as 10+ years ago, but they knew how to make a man swoon. Hollywood doesn't know how to make women sexy without giving it all away and they certainly don't know how to make women feminine because they try to make them all be manly.

[@Mahtijanis]

Well said!

[@newtpondskipper]

Agreed! Hollyweird thinks sexy is lack of clothing because they never understood old movies and how a woman could burn the set down with a look and how she stood. Now these low level film makers think it's about showing everything and it means nothing.

[@seaofenergy2765]

There isnt any modesty when the ripped and abs full male torso is involved. Its not even a healthy body type to have, having like 5% body fat, but its literally everywhere now. I agree with your sentiment though. Just dont think the modesty thats happening in terms of women on screen is a two way street. Its like they think well women were put on display before so its mens turn to be overtly sexualised with 'perfect' bodies shoved in the face to emasculate the male viewer..its like a spiteful playground mindset....

[@mnomadvfx]

The problem is that the masculine bit is the only way they can visually display some level of physical parity with men. It's a tired visual trick to sell their "strong female characters" who are only strong because they say they are rather than because their powers/skills are explained to even basic satisfaction, or that they are given a character arc which takes them from weakness to strength ala Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, Danaerys Targaryen or Arya Stark.

[@niallrussell7184]

ah the old days when they couldn't show a married couple in the same bed.. had to be separate.

[@Midtable1881]

Cinema goers: “There’s no nudity in films these days” European cinema: “We got you covered”

[@DoctorPhileasFragg]

Or rather, UNcovered.

[@TwistedReality13]

Razorfist didn't even have to cuss. That backwards bra bit was pretty funny 😂😂

[@ghostrouxinol6169]

Isnt ironic that Thor can be shirtless and his actor is uses steroids to play the role. But Scarlett Johansson needs to hide her natural curves.

[@occultnightingale1106]

It's not just shirtless, he had a full-nude scene. On display, in front of hundreds of spectators. As a joke. Only when it's a man.

[@ghostrouxinol6169]

@@occultnightingale1106 I was aware but nudity is a different topic.

[@occultnightingale1106]

@@ghostrouxinol6169 the scene with Thor in the thumbnail is a shirtless scene by technicality, because it is a nude scene.

[@ghostrouxinol6169]

@@occultnightingale1106 Oh. There is so many Male Superhero shirtless that i might mistake for any other scene.

[@CursedWheelieBin]

The women don’t even have to do a fraction of the work that the men do to achieve their physique. Look at female comic book characters ie. In the actual comics. They basically look like Olympia level fitness models. Absolutely incredible, right? Something between an elite gymnast and a ballet dancer. There has NEVER been an actress willing to put themselves through the work necessary to achieve that physique. Not one. Never. Some 10lb goblet squats and glute bridges with generic looking CrossFit plates, and then pretend like they’ve conquered the world. Meanwhile the men are having to cycle on and off numerous drugs, fasting, dehydrating themselves, pushing themselves in the gym, being meticulous with their diet, really sacrificing a lot to transform themselves physically for their role. They’re literally working harder, and people wonder why they get paid more? (Btw I don’t even care. At that elite level it’s up to you to know your worth).

[@carlrood4457]

The original title of the movie WAS Mad Max 2 in Australia. It was called The Road Warrior in the US because the original Mad Max didn't have much play here and was virtually unknown at the time the second one was released.

[@aldunlop4622]

I watched them filming the Thunderdome in an old quarry in Homebush Sydney. Used to take my lunch down and sit on the cliff’s edge above the set. Great fun.

[@BrennanCh06]

It's not about sexuality it's about beauty. They are absolutely against the idea of female specific beauty.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Gotta make those girls as unattractive as possible, surely won't affect the earnings, right ? RRRRIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHHTTTT??

[@freaky66]

I definitely noticed this trend in videogames as well. Lead women have below average looks or they are covered up but lead men have to look like Chippendale dancers 24/7. Mortal kombat 10 and 11 is a perfect example. Why I love mk 9 it was even playing field.

[@richardhockey8442]

Take a look at the character creation screen in Darktide - it's not 'gender' or 'sex' it's 'body type' and the faces available could barely be described as human let alone attractive.

[@BigCowProductions]

​@@richardhockey8442 it's demonic.

[@filmandfirearms]

Also, the over animated faces. Fallout: New Vegas had better vanilla facial animations than most new games today. Also, the voices. I love Cyberpunk 2077, but female V sounds like a man who's been kicked in the balls. I can kind of excuse the "body type" sex selection, since trans people like Claire do exist in that universe, but it's still weird

[@hammfield1473]

@@filmandfirearms Female V is substantially better than Male V and his shitty, quasi-New York accent.

[@inendlesspain4724]

I always felt that MK10 was a huge improvement over 9, not because the female characters were less sexualized in 10, but because the models in 9 kinda sucked; every female character in 9 looks like they were meant for some 3D animation porn parody of the game itself with bodies that look like a stick with a pair of balloons attached to it, meanwhile every male character looks exactly like fucking Rambo. It's not even that I'm against a whole cast of characters in which every or most women are an eye-candy and every or most men are jacked af, but it really feels like they just used the exact same two templates for every character model in the game and it gets old pretty fast, while 10 introduced more bodytype variety. With 11 however... I can see where people are coming from.

[@elitronprime7322]

This is partly why anime are kings of giving men what they want. Attractive women and appealing men co-existing at the same time

[@Bakagii]

they're so generous with it to the point the fans are sick of unnecessary fan service lmfaooo

[@forrestredd2706]

I was actually thinking this as well... I personally have lived in Thailand for the last year, and seeing women actually flaunt being women is such a welcome reprieve from the US being the way that it is. The way that they treat women in the west telling them they can't be beautiful or sexy or slim, it is so hateful and forceful, that eventually they will just push women to not exist in a sexual or sensual or feminine way at all.

[@deadnorth8648]

Drawings are still not real girls... Yeah it's cool, but not the same

[@Bakagii]

@@deadnorth8648 aye man, tell that to the blue bird weirdos who fuss so much over fictional character age and sexuality, then see them meltdown

[@alexalcalaortiz368]

@@Bakagii "so what you are saying is that you like jerking off to children?" followed by a goku reaction image is the only argument they would be able to come up with

[@SeenAndCheese]

All hail the Drinking bringing "THE MESSAGE" into our life.

[@chasehedges6775]

👍

[@Scott.Sandifer]

Seeing _Force Awakens_ in the theatre I was really taken aback by all the fat stormtroopers. Not only do their troops not have to pass any sort of physical training, but they've -enlarged- redesigned the armor for them?

[@faves2064]

It's why I love Milla Jovovich, she designs or has input into the design of her own costumes such as that fantastic Western style get-up she had in Resident Evil Extinction.

[@chasehedges6775]

She was soooo hot in The Fifth Element.

[@RAZGR1Z]

It helps when your husband is the director lmao.

[@faves2064]

@MGSKakashi as much as I'm not arsed about Paul WS Anderson as a director at least he doesn't take part in forcing 'the message' in our faces. lol

[@reginaldgickington4793]

Truly, the dude has built a 20 year franchise on the premise of "my wife looks really hot when she kills zombies"

[@wedgeantilles8575]

@Drshindigglydoo28191 You have way more fun watching those than most of the stuff that was released in the last 5 years...

[@rexlumontad5644]

Phase 4 and 5 are just a bunch of random side quests after completing the main campaign.

[@MohamedDun]

Team me you player Skyrim without telling me you played Skyrim 😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@secretsymphony]

This is so true. It's not only Hollywood. If you're British, just watch Eastenders - yes, I know it's shite - but it's all gym-fit guys taking their shirts off every other episode - no worrying about unrealistic male body image impressions being given - it's all for women and gay men. There's a storyline at present about Stacey doing sex work on a live cam to earn extra money. So far the most she's shown is a dressing gown. I expect it to end with some evil guy stalking her...

[@Indians-dl3to]

BBC is very well known for male-nudity only policy. Good luck finding any TV show that doesn't has male butt shot in it.

[@KeytarArgonian]

Jesus I haven’t watched Eastenders in about 15 years. Have they done an alt right incel storyline yet? 😂

[@dmitripogosian5084]

Oo, Eastenders ! My stay in UK 30 years ago .... No gym-fit guys back then ....

[@aronthedev3074]

I'm just going to quote The Little Platoon: "When the standards are so good, you can't help but double them!"

[@markcoffman494]

I think the last bit of cleavage I’ve seen on a movie was Domino’s in Deadpool two. Totally agree with his entire panel.

[@CursedWheelieBin]

Look no further than social media to see that sex sells 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@alexfriedman918]

Was Fat Thor before or after that? - I think there was quite a bit of cleavage there (although I only saw the trailers)…

[@leeaycock4456]

And they were good scenes, too.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@alexfriedman918 Deadpool 2 was the year before Endgame and fat Thor.

[@Xolcm]

"Men should be muscular and women should be va-va-voom!" Hiromu Arakawa

[@Jabrownie23]

Hence why I still love old-school sword and sorcery. Hiromu's a wise woman.

[@mnomadvfx]

Exactly - fantasy escapism. That's what people want in the cinema. Not some Mary Whitehouse hyper conservative feminist sanitised vomit that Disney seem to be producing like its a factory production line, often reusing the same bad characters with the same bad actors playing them.

[@mnomadvfx]

Lol - Fist of the North Star was so much muscle that Kenshiro literally walked through falling skyscraper buildings like it was nothing. Sooo much epic 😎

[@maniacaldude]

Speaking of double standards, the animated movie Brave had a couple of scenes where we see bare man (or boy) butts, but whenever a woman gets naked, she's completely covered up by like a blanket or something. If that isn't a double standard, I don't know what is.

[@chasehedges6775]

Pixar's Brave was such a mediocre movie. One of the worst animated Pixar films of 2012.

[@Grubnar]

I thought that the WHOLE POINT of that film was that it recognizes the double standard. They literally point it out at the end!

[@maniacaldude]

@@chasehedges6775 It was definitely one of Pixar's weakest and most underwhelming.

[@maniacaldude]

​@@Grubnar Not that particular double standard, they don't. But that's the least of Brave's numerous problems.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@maniacaldude 👍👍

[@JamieZero7]

I feel sorry for Harrison he really thought of doing something for the fans a good send off. But sadly writers let him down.

[@damp2269]

i doubt he went in without reading the script.

[@JamieZero7]

@@damp2269 Well I saw the video he was excited for this compared to the other recent stuff. He likes indy. Which is a shame. I mean bladerunner 2049 was funny I saw him on a late night show wearing the same outfit as the movie it was like he didn't bother to change just wearing everyday clothes lol.

[@JamieZero7]

@@damp2269 Ryan and Harrison ford should have worked together. He likes Ryan and Ryan gives a good performance. He enjoyed bladerunner 2049. But that's what Harrison cares about a good movie. It's why he doesn't like star wars. And has been reluctant to take on roles. He cares about the quality of movie. So it's a shame to see this.

[@JamieZero7]

@@damp2269 James Mangold was a bad pick. He has attacked people and clearly woke. And then you got KK. Stephan Speilberg probably doesn't care. And the writers Jez Butterworth did edge of tomorrow and le mans. Which are decent but not sure about the 3rd writer he has no credits compared to the 2. But these movies were like 10 years ago and they worked with different teams. Not done anything lately that's good.

[@stephenmadgwick7758]

The original Aussie title was Mad Max. The American release changed the name to Road Warrior and also dubbed the voices because they claimed American audiences couldn't understand the Australian accent. (Apologies all, I shouldn't comment online while drinking, got it wrong. Original was titled Mad Max in America the voices were dubbed, No.2 was originally named just Road Warrior and later changed to Mad Max 2 - Road Warrior)

[@bruhdon4748]

That’s actually insane 😂

[@darkhighwayman1757]

Wasn't Mad max the first one?

[@stacystec]

😂 I’m curious now if I ever saw the dubbed version. I watched it in the 80s on TBS but can’t remember the voices being out-of-sync (not like King Fu theatre)

[@stephenmadgwick7758]

@@darkhighwayman1757 yes first film released as Mad Max in Australia and Road Warrior in America

[@stephenmadgwick7758]

@@stacystec I had both versions on DVD. The dubbed version was mostly in sync but the voices were very different.

[@tyw2675]

I can’t help but to think that what happens in Hollywood influences the culture - young people are having less sex than ever, and there’s several reasons why we suspect that is (the phone destroying social skills, the overreaction of Me Too, etc.). I think some of this influences that. Like “sexualizing women” is just bad or something. It isn’t. It’s okay to be sexually attracted to women who are sexually attractive.

[@kaminsod4077]

Yeah you're definitely on to something. It's like in my age group (18-30), less people overall are getting laid but the few who do are hyper sexual sluts who go through partners like normal people go through socks.

[@John-Doe-Yo]

Idk where your from but all the friends I know are hooking up like crazy thanks to tinder or bumble. Both men and women in our 20s. Not me though I’ve been with the same girl for 4 years. Casual sex is like the norm now though lol.

[@CursedWheelieBin]

@@John-Doe-Yo Yeah casual sex was still a thing in the 90s. It was made more widely acceptable to admit to when shows like Friends and Sex & The City became so popular. I’m not sure though whether that’s MADE them popular, or vice versa 🤔 . Sort of a chicken & egg situation there. I was a teenager back then and not yet shaggin’ much 😄. I think many young people now, particularly nervous anxious types are really confused and they conflate sexual attraction with sexual misconduct. They believe that doing this whole “SIMP” nice guy routine is like a cheat code to unlock pu$$y. Many of these dudes have a lot of resentment because they start to develop an expectation of “winning” for all the effort they’re having to put in. I’ve seen it before and when they’re politely rejected it turns very ugly. Worse yet, there are so many vultures on social media that capitalise on this and monetise these anxieties to create content riddled with confirmation bias. Red pill, black pill etc. Money is at the root of ALL OF IT. They’re so terrified (young men) of being called a creep and getting hashtagged into an assisted suicide that they freeze and shutdown instead of being present, acknowledging their urges, talking about them with their friends HONESTLY, trying out relationships, failing, and trying again. You know, living? I think back at my earliest attempts at intimacy and some of the lame, cringy stuff I thought I had to say in order to get a girl to like me and I laugh myself half to death. 😂 I consider myself very fortunate my 20s were from 2005-2015 and not a moment later! I saw the rise of social media but I remember the quality of life that existed before it.

[@kaminsod4077]

​@@CursedWheelieBin You're right on the mark. While I'm not perpetually terrified of interacting with women, as a less than attractive man on the autism spectrum, dating for me is like trying to dance through a minefield.

[@richardhockey8442]

Sounds like Isaac Asimov story where people live by themselves in the middle of plantations tended by robots, and barely if ever talk to other humans and are required by the government to mate with suitable partners purely for procreation, which they find vaguely disgusting.

[@baddragonite]

Star wars is essentially written like a soap opera in space. Everything is character and relationship driven

[@Elric70]

Dragons needed slaying, but heroes came about for the glory and princesses attached to said dragons. The earliest version of get rich or die trying.

[@kingdragoonmk10]

Its the weirdest thing, this freaky paradox of , Obsessing of Sexuality, and Sexual preferences to the point of pushing it into kids shows... But also trying to be as NOT sexy as possible...

[@alanwake5927]

Totally agree

[@phileas007]

It's not just Hollywood, it's all of society

[@chasehedges6775]

Our modern society is going the way of the Western Roman Empire.

[@chasehedges6775]

Society went downhill after 2016. 2017 - 2023 has been the worst decade. Granted, there were some good films and movies and TV shows but it is a pretty meh decade so far

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

Yeah and I think that you need to go outside and see the real world for not everyone thinks the same as Hollywood for it is not the world.

[@natmarelnam4871]

not really... it's corpo clowns and ESG demons. But the Left controls the media so you don't hear about the good products being made.... The Left psychotically blocks people for not being trans. Which I transdededededed at three months old, they can't stop me, now!

[@daryltor7608]

Go outside then

[@marsoelflaco5722]

🙋🏽‍♂️ I love Scarlett Johansson's double standards!!!

[@danjonmills]

I liked her double D's. (In her prime)

[@poocrayon4588]

The thing about Scarlett is shes an idiot. Those old timey studio excecutive moguls who controlled the stars images tightly were right and new best.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

@@hey-lk3zm Clever!👌🏽👏🏽

[@emailandi82]

Women can appreciate the female form as well. I miss seeing hot chicks in movies too. Generally in adult movies I think everyone can be appreciative of a good looking cast. If I wanted to look at gross people all day, I'd go to Walmart. 🤷‍♀️

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

Go at 2am to see the craziest people ever.

[@Jessica_Jones]

Lol well said

[@craigbryan6980]

In fact, we watch films to get away from the reality of Walmart

[@lightworker2956]

Agree. I think it's only older and unattractive women who are trying hard to keep attractive women out of movies. Probably in an attempt to keep men's standards low, so that the older and unattractive women have an easier time dating. It's the 21st-century version of a teenage girl shaming or spreading nasty rumors about a beautiful other girl, to kneecap the competition.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Virgin Western Shows: "We conceal women from showing off their curves and skin because it is bad." Chad Anime Shows: "Prudes nowadays."

[@mattbergamin9001]

They’re drawings nigga

[@Jadty]

Anime: Tits and ass of all shapes, sizes and ages. B A S E D

[@Tony_409]

That's why they are running htitpieces on anime and manga now by blurring titles to make it seem inappropriate

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

I usually don't mind hot women, as a matter of fact I'm jealous in a "Good for you, I wish I had that" kinda way. But I am sensitive to sexual content in similar ways. I'm not complaining about intimate scenes all the time, (unless it's in a show where it just doesn't belong), but I had to steer clear of many beloved movies because more often than not, for me, those moments feel like an excuse to get borderline pornographic with little to no relevance to the story besides speed running a relationship's growth or fan service. Is that weird? Edit: It pisses me off sometimes and i wish they could just tell a story, but I don't like the alternative of having no stories and no romance.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Best Virgin vs Chad I've seen in a while.

[@alexfriedman918]

“They might as well be men”? At this point, I’m sure quite a few of them are! Remember Az’s Crying Game moment? 😂

[@TheKythia]

I'm just binging through 'Married with Children', and there is that one episode when Al gets super horny and basically forces himself onto Peggy five times in a row. In a sitcom. Everybody laughed. How things have changed.

[@StreetPreacherr]

Chris is quite correct for men of my age. I'll tell you, I definitely wasn't watching 'The Decline of the American Empire' on cable because I was a huge teenage history buff!

[@lukebailey3662]

Finding a decent movie these days is akin to finding hay in a needlestack

[@alexfriedman918]

To find hay in a needlestack, use a horse … or a woman that looks like one.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

Or finding a gem in a sea of sh*t.

[@alexfriedman918]

@@soulextracter Hmmm… could be. Oh, that ditz VP of marketing from Anheuser-Busch, for sure!

[@chasehedges6775]

@@JustTooDamnHonest👍👍👍

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

Deny Hollywood Standands. Embrace Anime Waifus.

[@danjonmills]

I hope you're joking. You still need to entertain real life women; not just jerking it to Anime porn.

[@mnomadvfx]

When men can actually embrace robot waifus in the future the world will basically collapse in 1-2 generations. Men are being systematically repressed by media dominated by feminist 'creative consultants' that hate men and are pathologically jealous of good looking women. Once robot waifus are possible there will be no need for films or games - we will get the fantasy live in our own homes 😂

[@benironside1264]

It’s not just Hollywood. Us blokes have unrealistic body ideals presented in all media. Adverts, magazines etc all show ripped muscular guys that women drool over whilst having a conversation about how showing women that are slimmer than them sets unrealistic standards. I tell you what, it’s a lot easier to be slimmer than it is to pump yourself full of steroids and workout twice a day

[@b.chaline4394]

Hollywood twenty years ago: Props Keira Knightley’s boobs on the King Arthur poster Holywood today: Flattens Karen Gillian´s boobs to oblivion on GOTG3’s poster Can’t these creeps just leave women alone?

[@KonekoneFukkatsu]

Considering the background of the Hollywood types, particularly the directors and producers, and their penchant for being sex pests, evidently not...

[@Knight_Kin]

@@KonekoneFukkatsu Cool it with the Antisemitism.

[@macmcleod1188]

Male interest in females isn't really creepy. It's healthy. Suppressing male sexual interest in females is creepy and unhealthy. We have a very toxic society today, which is breeding below replacement levels. And request unhealthy societies with excessive breeding rates are replacing those with insufficient breeding rates.

[@KonekoneFukkatsu]

@@Knight_Kin What are you talking about? I meant "white" men, obviously.

[@LaifuHaiku]

Man, do i miss those 80's movies. Even under the christian watchdog organization back then, they didn't have much power on how a movie should be produced and directed. Bloods, violences, gores, manly man, womanly woman aplenty

[@chasehedges6775]

The 80s, 90s and 2000s were the best era for movies.❤

[@simonfilmfan4899]

@@chasehedges6775 The 2000s were a bit average to be honest.

[@Wilkies_World]

I always enjoy how candid the drinker is with things.... oh the big fat ginger one.... then destroying her even more casually

[@ihcfn]

Don't forget that Hugh Jackman and Henry Caville take days to prepare for those shirtless scenes, even dehydrating themselves on the day for it. There would be uproar if you asked a woman to to that to make her body look better!

[@PeterAckarey]

I wonder if Han’s knowing that Leia could take care of herself made him feel more comfortable cornering her than if she were weak and defenseless.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

This past weekend I watched a bunch of old B grade 80s action movies with my best friend. The amount of random boob shots were a sight to behold.

[@stephenmadgwick7758]

I know what you mean, i watched Action Jackson a few days ago and seen the breasts of both Sharon Stone and Vanity.

[@marcuskahn3783]

It was good old 80s Hong Kong Legends for me; with butt kicking Asian beauties that you can't find in the modern landfill of crap standard entertainment.

[@YnseSchaap]

80's horror also great for boobs 😁 or better yet every Dutch 70's movie 🤣

[@bbriggs7409]

@@marcuskahn3783 any recommendations guys?

[@Powerhaus88]

@@bbriggs7409 Conan the Barbarian for one

[@josiahmick1175]

this is why no one goes to movies- can't find people willing to pay to be insulted

[@BSJ-Unparalleled]

It really bothered me when Lady Thor got her muscles CGI’d onto her, but Chris Hemsworth actually had to work out to keep his role.

[@johnpatrickorense3982]

Supergirl in the upcoming Flash movie "Do you know what this symbol means?" "It means my eyes are up here you perv!"

[@Mister-Six]

This is why I just stick with older movies. Back when men were men and women were allowed to be sexy.

[@alexfriedman918]

“Men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri!” - Douglas Adams

[@Mister-Six]

​@@alexfriedman918 Exactly

[@simonfilmfan4899]

They were sexier in 1940s film noir.

[@miqueel5410]

There was a simpler time when people in movies were attractive and people went to see them because of that. Half the stars in Hollywood were there because they looked good, knew it and wanted to show off. I remember a movie called “wild things” that was the late 90s epitome of this.

[@renevil2105]

I remember the other boys talking about it cause of the hot lesbian sex scene in it lol. Didn't care about the plot or that it is a slasher movie.

[@miqueel5410]

@@renevil2105 I mean it was a terribly convoluted and needlessly complicated, and not really in a good way. But you’ve got 3 of the arguably hottest people in Hollywood at the time just chewing the scenery (and each other) with zero shame. Movies like that have zero chance of being made today.

[@theseproblemsmatter1]

The number of increasing sales in Manga and Anime over the years with attractive more revealing women just as the men says it all

[@danjonmills]

Lol they're not real women, though. They're drawings. Wtf. I like Anime, but I would never substitute real women for drawings just to get aroused. Those are just asexual weirdos.

[@SnipingIsFun]

Ecactly

[@colmduggan8230]

Same thing is happening in games just look at modern Mortal Combat

[@thegamingprozone1941]

MK9 was my favourite for a reason.

[@colmduggan8230]

@@thegamingprozone1941 I have lost interest in the series at this point i did not bother even playing MK11 even though i bought it on sale for €12

[@thegamingprozone1941]

@@colmduggan8230 same here the new one looks good I guess fighting games have never been my favourite.

[@LaifuHaiku]

I kinda love the new systems on the newer games, but i always find it weird that its okay to tune up violence and gore to 11 but smexy female? oh dear God, no. For the same reason later games has lower play time than 9

[@medigoomnis]

Mortal Klothing

[@Medoway]

Just a reminder that if you haven't checked out the Drinker's books (mostly the Drake Ryan series) they are fantastic and well worth a try. I did when I found out he was primarily an author; and I'm very grateful to the guys who posted a similar message on his earlier videos :)

[@JezaLoki]

What’s Chris point about Mad Max? They’re Australian films released as Mad Max and Mad Max 2, which was renamed and released in the USA as The Road Warrior because audiences were largely unfamiliar with the original. Did he say they’re trying to put the name Mad Max back into the title ? They’re trying to put Mad Max back into the title originally named Mad Max 2 ? Am I missing something ?

[@FunkyKikuchiyo]

A really good point came up but they moved past it too fast. When they try so hard to androgynize the female characters, they also lose a lot of screen presence. Regardless of beauty standards, if you’re going to have a person blown up on a giant screen, they need to be interesting to look at, and what you see should tell you something about the character. Movies and shows in other countries with much higher modesty standards get great character design and screen presence, so it isn’t like it is impossible to dial back eye candy and keep it interesting.

[@thesnazzycomet]

I still crush on the woman in Indiana Jones 3, I mean come on... but I don't even remember last time there was like a "wow hot girl!" moment in a recent movie

[@itzbp9949]

Usually I watch low budget slashers and stuff as you're bound to find hot women in those.

[@O1OO1O1]

The Batman? Night Teeth? It's kind of like scooping a cup into the ocean and saying " see? no fish"

[@thesnazzycomet]

@@O1OO1O1 I couldnt stand catwoman in the patterson batman

[@O1OO1O1]

@@thesnazzycomet okay. But there will be plenty of people who find her attractive. And she had a scene where she was literally undressing, a scene when she was wearing a short skin tight dress, and plenty of scenes when she was wearing a skin tight. Bodysuit

[@Knight_Kin]

@@O1OO1O1 And yet it's still shit compared to what used to come before. I barely remember that movie even exists, like who cares really it's all just boring retreads of the same stuff done worse and worse with each iteration.

[@GIBBO4182]

If Hollywood didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any!

[@wotever99ninynine]

* wouldn't have any standards. That one extra word helps clarify your point, not that anyone wouldn't get it as is. It just gives it a bit more oomph. But yours was a very good comment so I'm not complaining 👍

[@pst5345]

i mean having a standard is just 1 vs double standards which is 2. 2 is more than 1 so 'more' is good in any business right?

[@Noodles.Doodles]

Brevity is the soul of wit. I like the OP the way it is.

[@Eidolon1andOnly]

​@@wotever99ninynine There was no need to clarify, it made perfect sense the way it was written. English is awesome in that way.

[@YouLousyKids]

"The MESSAGE!!!" is a fine legacy, Drinker!

[@nelsoc2]

Not just hollywood, was at Target about a month ago: Huge overweight women in sports clothes in women section. Ripped/muscular guys in mens section. I couldnt find a single skinny woman on any ads

[@doopdoopdopdop7424]

7:31 Same thing happened to Danaerys in Season 1 but Khal Drogo was exotic so it was considered ok.

[@Nevyn515]

7:10 - I thought it was clear in the Jamie-Cersei scene that she said no, looked around and saw there was nobody around who could see, and then got into it.

[@oliver1224]

The "Hate" scene in Blade Runner between Deckard & Rachel was due to Sean Young's refusal to date Ridley Scott so he got his own back with that scene & this is why it looks excessive & doesn't belong in the film. Also observe her reaction.

[@eriktonisalu5769]

Its weird that a lot of modern day females like to wear short shorts and revealing tops and yet in the movies they are so covered up that the whole time I am watching the movie all I can think about is politics and how messed up hollywood is nowadays. Bring back early 2000s please, I want another lord of the rings, matrix, gladiator, 300 and other great movies that made me forget about daily life and immerse in the movie and the great story it tells me.

[@cap00ify]

Yes, the Matrix, where the main female lead is covered head to toe the entire film. Sorry women wearing clothing is preventing you from enjoying film.

[@Knight_Kin]

@@cap00ify That's not what he is saying, fool. He is saying, not just that characters are more covered up but that it's POLITICAL and the messaging of shame comes along with that alteration. It's not costume changes that are upsetting, it's being lectured for daring to enjoy the movie beyond the bland POLITICAL messaging shoved in there. NOT hard to understand. Sure not every movie does this but the movies who go out of their way to desexualize everything to a weird sterile degree are 100% doing it for POLITICAL reasons. Little Mermaid being black and all her sisters somehow are difference races from a mother who herself doesn't match the race of any of her offspring? 100% POLITICAL (i threw in that example to show you it's not all about desexualization, it's the MESSAGE).

[@cap00ify]

@Hatchete Not reading all of that so jumped down to the last sentence where now you're outraged about mermaids being different races and working in the guy's catchphrase about the Message. Cool!

[@Jamesalexhughes]

Good to see @razorfist getting involved!

[@TasMan14PL]

It's funny to see actresses being desexualised in the movies and saying how important it is to break with bodyshaming or whatever, and then them going to first screenings in low cut dresses that exposes more of their bodies than any costume they had in a movie

[@rustyshackelford4224]

Lol! Yep. That's Hollywood narcissism for you...

[@hivebrain]

Transporter technician: "Oh no, they're forming." Captain: "Nope, she looks like that normally."

[@Francois424]

Awesome panel on that. Love you guys !

[@WhimeaMonster538]

This has been on my mind since 2015 I felt like I was going crazy

[@WhimeaMonster538]

Just to give you an idea of how crazy it’s gotten, in the thumbnail of this very video the picture of Thor was actually in the movie and the picture of black widow is photoshopped

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

If WB had gotten their stuff together, they could've been the ones to bring sexy women and men in actual superhero costumes unashamedly.

[@kellik5453]

I love RazorFist! Glad you are including him in your live streams!

[@collectivesartori]

First 3 minutes of this you guys have come out swinging. 🔥

[@christopherbuckley7544]

"skinny, androgenous actresses with no hips, no waist, no busts...they might as well be men" --- Sounds like the 20's...the roaring 1920's all over again. Hmmmmmm......

[@kardnails8729]

"They want to eliminate the concept of sexuality on screen" Yet at the same time, those same people want to teach out children everything about sexuality and gender, even taking them away from parents who don't agree with that.

[@doodis4861]

literally pushing kids to take harmful body/life altering hormones and mutilating their genitalia before they're even old enough to know better, the world is disgusting

[@squirmingcoil7889]

Nice thumbnail of Scarjo. Exquisite teddies! Pre-Disney goodness. Miss those days..

[@piefrosty319]

Just glad I got scarlet Johansson as black widow when I was entering my teens

[@dinosaurwoman]

As a woman, I LIKE seeing women being strong and sexy. I find inspiration in them. And notice that even though the men may be nekked, they're being emasculated in the story, which might as well just be castration. Evangeline Lily is absolutely right.