Cupra slashes the price of the Born EV by up $17,000 - amazing value!

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[@ilkka182]

I have a Cupra Born 58 kWh. Bought it in 2022 and now driven 92.000 km. It’s a good car.

[@bjornaltmann8184]

We'll be back that quickly! ....Best regards from Germany 😉😂

[@trevorevans7101]

This looks to be the right choose for our first EV.

[@Steve-jx3mh]

The My23 was selling for about this last year. We got one in October for 55k driveaway with performance and interior pack and the ususl tint and internal protection. Popped it on a lease and best car i have had.

[@rowanforgus]

It’s actually a lot bigger than a Toyota Corolla on the inside, because of the high roof/ceiling and long wheelbase. It’s only Corolla sized on the outside. It’s also much bigger than the MG4 on the inside, especially in the rear.

[@rocket3man]

That brings the Born back to the price point where it should be for a compact hatchback with only a small carrying capacity. It’s always been overpriced.

[@DanRyzESPUK]

@rocket3man 400 L of capacity is not small, are you american or something?

[@balkanleopard9728]

@@DanRyzESPUK Actually it's 380 litres but it's still good for its segment.

[@redrockcrf4663]

Hoping this comes to NZ. Still $64k + ORC in NZas of today

[@StephenButlerOne]

As a Born owner om glad they are bringing the prices inline with what i think its actually worth. I haoilly oaind £39,950, but i was paying for its looks and anszing seats, and the way it handled. Knowing there were cheaper options. I just never like any of the other options. I dont mand payogk to the an earlier adopter. Thr new model 25 car has ironed out the majority if the originals issues. I would ksur like a 240v plug under the centre consome. It wouel be handy. The car is very good, its turn of pace is somthijg diferent and its got a good chassis set up. But also comfy on a long fun

[@craigjenkins3297]

Yes Sam, I loved it too but then found out that you can"t tow anything at all because it"s not homologated for that. Bought a model Y finally.

[@Fritsvrolijk]

Nice to know if you paitt the full price

[@byddf]

In my country, I also don't choose MG4 because MG's image in terms of car quality is not so good. Even though MG4 has lifetime warranty here, there are many conditions and limitations.

[@peoplelikeus3684]

Where do we get this BORN deal?.

[@henvan8737]

Just checked the Cupra Born web site from Melbourne. It's listed at A$49990 for the 77kwh battery. So still considerable more then the MG4.

[@ellWayify]

Yeah that’s for FY24. The model in the video that is 47k 82 kWh was FY23. Stock isn’t there now though cos I’m guessing it’s already taken

[@DrewCocker]

That's better than $63k though.

[@damianotoole8770]

have they reduced the price to provide a price gap to the taviscan?

[@ChickensAndGardening]

Why doesn't Toyota offer an electric Corolla? If it were under $35K and had decent range, it would sell really well. I'd buy one!

[@thyristo]

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The official WLTP range for the Born 77 with the E-Boost Pack (77 kWh lithium-ion) is 560 km (348 miles). With the larger battery and upgraded motor, the Born VZ, which features a 84 kWh lithium-ion pack, claims a range of up to 599 km (372 miles). The sister car, the recently redesigned VW ID.3, has also seen a range boost according to WLTP figures. The 77 kWh version claims a range of up to 550 km (342 miles), while the 84 kWh version claims up to 604 km (375 miles). I’ve had the chance to drive the 77 kWh version, and it showed an estimated range of 550 km. While I haven’t had enough time behind the wheel to fully assess its real-world range, my brief test left me quite impressed with how well the car handles. It’s surprisingly agile and quite enjoyable to drive. I was expecting a much softer and wobblier car.

[@sargfowler9603]

You'll get that in summer easy driving and a light foot, in winter more like 300km

​@@sargfowler9603 You can have both with a heat pump installed. So Winter range is barely affected. Even driving at a steady 120 km/h on the highway, it gives around 400 km of range. With mixed usage, it's easy to exceed 500 km. Around 600 for the 84Kw version if you do lots of city driving. As for winters, they're pretty mild here in Portugal, it rarely drops below 10°C in the peak of Winter, so the range isn't affected year-round. I have managed 540 kms in the Highway at 113km/h and over 650 kms mixed usage with a Tesla 3 LR RWD with a slighlty smaller battery of 75kWh. Ranges are already really good if you don't have an heavy foot.

[@sargfowler9603]

The outside temperature affects EVs a lot if it gets to freezing. My Cupra will struggle to get 300km on a run and that's full range. With 10%-80% usage its more like 210

[@marcc.490]

Reported to have poor app connectivity. So can’t turn the aircon from your phone remotely on a hot summer day.

[@Kallon-r3b]

Cupra looks great, but it must have LFP or Solid State Battery

[@eeehan77]

Waiting for the price on the vastly superior 2025 Cupra Born VZ Electric.

[@StephenButlerOne]

All the cupra across the range buildt after june of 24 arw called MY2025 cars, they all the upgrades the vz has only difenece is the extra power, (its not really needed for the streets) and vz gets diferent seats. But in my opinion, i drove borth before buying, the Dynamica seats in the V3 model are the best in the range. Best looking, and in comfort, but that is subjective. But thr V3 has a nice massage function in thr two feomt seats, the vz doesnt. But i wouldn't make of brake the deal. The vz is fast fast, but the Born 60kw V3 e-boost, with 165kwh (or thsts what tesla caheger gives me), is also Fast, fast enough for british bendy A, B and even C roads. A blast around the B and C roads, these are really rural roads. On thr A raods tiu jave to be careful for your licence, as they are the raid that you will rack your points up on and end up banned. As the born os a car that pushes you on when youre in it. For this realson id call it a hot hatch as its just fun, its a hatch thst shoudkt be this much fun. A hot hat h isnt all bout outright soeed. Otjereise the Golf R wousl be the car evey gold iwner eants. But in almost all reviews, they said wow blistering, savage etc... but id still rather have the GTi ad its more fun.

[@MT-xy7fw]

Isn't this same as ID3 with many bugs?

[@drwisdom1]

Isn't it a rebadged ID.4?

[@timogronroos4642]

You are thinking the dinosaur way. Rebadging is not needed anymore when the whole tech is based on the platform. You just design different cars on top of it. The closest to this size is VW ID.3. Others are at least these: ID.4, ID.5, ID.7, ID.Buzz, Skoda Enyaq, Elroq, Audi Q4, Cupra Tavascan, Ford Explorer and Capri are all based on same MEB platform.

[@markuc]

Id3

[@TB-up4xi]

Rebadged ID3 made on the same production lines in Zwickau Germany.

[@aaronc5978]

I prefer MG4.

[@ramblerandy2397]

A Cupra Born is just a VW ID3 in different clothing and as such, it's a good car. And it was cheaper than the equivalent ID3. I've always said that the ID3 was a wee bit over-priced to be a total winner. That imfamous lousy software has actually improved a fair bit now, because of Xpeng and other Chinese input, to the point where its no worse than average. I haven't tested the very latest version [V.5?] so I can't say. But why concentrate on the software? Because the car has always been pretty good in every other respect. Interior space especially. The 150kW motor is ICE hot hatch nippy without a strain, and the old standard battery size of 58kWh usable gives plenty of range, and it's lighter than the biggest battery, hence the better performance. Making the car a lot cheaper would be very nice indeed. Now we want that in UK/Europe too, although how it's going to fare against the Chinese invasion remains to be seen.

[@timjudshore6907]

I like it , just put an s on it and it's a supra ❤

[@FrankiePo89]

S+cupra = scupra 😊

[@fryske.tynster]

and we in europa don get it cheaper again why?

[@dietmarwolf79]

Isn't the Cupra made in Spain?

[@TB-up4xi]

Zwickau Germany - same platform as the VW ID3

[@pr1stvan]

The legacy cartell suddenly started supporting the channel or what happened today?

[@Rene-uz3eb]

What people don't realize, these super fast evs need more expensive mechanics because they are exposed to more stresses. That's why sports cars are more expensive. So if you're trying to make an affordable ev, you probably shouldn't shoot for below 6s in any of the variants. Except if made in china

[@fakamada]

@@Rene-uz3eb Super fast?

[@thyristo]

Wouldn't buy stuff not designed and produced in China. And that's not limited just to cars. I've fixed way too much stuff made in the West. Horrible designs. Proprietary and planned obsolescent trash.

[@antin4680]

I wonder could it be exported from China instead of Germany?

[@Nick-io9uk]

They had BRAND NEW Renault Master Electric vans for sale on autotrader for £15,995....list price £62,000! Mind, 52kwh battery in a van is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

[@gpsfinancial6988]

It's plenty for a van used around town, not great if you are on a road trip.

[@bigvinny333]

It never gets mentioned, but can these EV's do a vehicle to vehicle load. And by that I mean could an EV share it charge with another vehicle that has maybe died due to lack of charge by the side of the road ?

[@paulc6766]

BYD & Hyundai does that.

[@kng128]

​@@paulc6766so can Lucid and Cybertruck. Ford Lightning might be able to also.

[@DrewCocker]

3:24 Not this one. The MG4 has V2L, but it's only 2.2KW so it would be very slow to charge another car, even slower than home charging.

[@Nomads_Rowing]

Confused - VW ID models get slated apart from the price, as low tech compared to Chinese alternatives yet this is a Seat Cupra body on the VAG underpinnings 🤔

[@crnalajna]

I didn't expect you to ever recommend the VW ID.3, in a different outfit. It does look nice, though, but hey, it's still the same bad MEB platform they're in the process of abandoning. Right?

[@FrankiePo89]

Selling at a lost to take market share?

[@DileepaRanawake]

It’s basically a rebadged vwid3 ? Wondering why the huge discount - is it just to clear inventory before all the layoffs begin and factories close? Totally different category of vehicle to an Xpeng g6.

[@Nick-io9uk]

I think they have to have a certain portion of their total sales by year end comprise of EVs...or else pay huge fines. Its not beyond the realms of possibility they actually end up paying your to 'buy' one off them. Buy a £20,000 car get £25,000 cashback or something to prop up their EV sales & avoid being fined. Completely different scenario, but I remember in the local area in 2008 crash selling brand new Dodge Avengers for £5,500 as there were a lot of fears Jeep-Chrysler would go bust & warranties would be invalid. I've seen brand new Fiskers with 570hp be advertized for £19,995 recently for just that reason. There really is no bottom to the market.

[@TB-up4xi]

Almost bought one - no app to control anything in Australia - hopless for 2015 let alone 2025, attrocious in-car software typical of the whole VW EV lineup.

[@knutk5863]

Cupra is not solely a german brand. It's originating from Seat, a spanish company part of the Volkswagen group

[@fakamada]

It is a German brand. Like Skoda. Don't be emotional.

[@darville7521]

Facts are emotional now? Snowflake! Ignorant!

[@elmojito]

@@fakamada The brand was created by the Seat team in Spain as part of the "sport" effort similar to Renault's Alpine. They have gone solo as the brand by itself commands a premium over Seat. But all design is from Spain. The German connection is due to its "mothership" being VW. Components though are all group synergies. BTW, Audi Q1's and VW Polo were manufactured in Spain.

[@DanRyzESPUK]

​@fakamada it'd a Spanish brand, the design team is in Barcelona. It belongs to VAG.

[@fakamada]

It is officially a German brand. Every single component belongs to VAG. They own it. Design is irrelevant. My mom could have designed it. It won't change anything. Cannot believe how childish you guys are. Skoda, Seat, Cupra; they are all German brands. Your meaningless objection will not change it.

[@jensonee]

The first models from Cupra could arrive in the US in 2028 or 2029

[@t-lm]

In simpler terms, you no longer have to pay $17,000 unnecessarily.

[@balkanleopard9728]

It's VW. Say no more. No way Jose:

[@monkeysuncle2816]

79 kwh not 82, according to their own site's specs

[@GoranCRO]

Its small and still expensive. Nothing of vale at that price range

[@thyristo]

I prefer JAC E10x

[@michaelfung4629]

At 47k. Not a huge leap to BYD Seal

[@larryjenkinson5525]

🇦🇺 This is not good for the EV market. Are these manufacturers just ripping us off? You would be (a) very cranky if you just paid full price for one (b) very hesitant to buy any EV in case there is a big discount just around the corner. Tesla did the same thing to it's customers!

[@fredrikdahlinwinscher8881]

How can anybody miss the obvious that this is a ID3? everything exept the design and som features its a MEB platform ID3. have both this and the ID3, the Born is more lively faster steering stiffer suspension, the ID3 is more grown up...

[@i6power30]

Cupra is not German. It's Spanish

[@chesshooligan1282]

And that was Barcelona in the video.

[@IanThompson-p2r]

It’s made in Zwickau Germany using VW MEB platform same as all Volkswagen Auto Group cars. Spanish heritage is just marketing blah

[@DileepaRanawake]

Still a ridiculous £36k base price in the uk $72k auz ! Which is mad because it’s basically an id3 made in Germany.

[@sscheiko]

Its good to see a price drop, but coming from a VW. They are experts at making things more difficult to fix just for the sake of making the engineering department look intelligent. Like the door actuator thats put in backwards and requires the entire door skin be removed so the often failing part can be replaced. Personally, I'd run away from this vehicle.

[@viking1au]

Still too costly for a VW E3

[@johnhedge1429]

I was with you until you said no V2L. This car is supposed to have V2G! WTF!

[@leedaq7767]

such a small EV for a big money

[@rusnyg]

27,000 USD? Yeah, sure… Meanwhile, in the EU, it starts at 45,000 euros 🤡

[@rusnyg]

And goes all the way up to around 60,000€. Might as well buy a Model 3 at this point...

[@steverichmond7142]

This is Spanish car and Seat have a very poor reputation. MG is far better from China.

[@DanRyzESPUK]

This car is better than an MG4. The problem was that it was utterly expensive so not competitive. Not anymore.

[@steverichmond7142]

@@DanRyzESPUK I own a MG4 X power with special rally seats. 0-60 3.8 seconds - with massive race ready brakes. The SEAT is a joke next to the x power. It feels like what it is a Spanish Fiat - very rattly .Overpriced slow crap.

[@gilesfitzherbert7725]

LOL, the Cupra Born costs the same as a Tesla here in the UK. Ridiculous, no way would I buy the Cupra Born instead of a Tesla.

[@Stef-sq2dc]

Personnelly l don't like the small wheels. Also MG has really small wheels. Just weird 😕

[@raoulheinrichvonmerten4851]

MG is cheaper. MG is easy to drive with out the ‘extra electrics’ that drive owners mad.

[@IStrup]

makes the Fiat 500e at $10k AU more expensive look like a joke

[@petepetrass]

like the Leaf it is grossly overpriced.

[@blackhorseteck8381]

It's a glorified iD, no thanks!

[@protagonist9716]

MG4 is better for sure

[@rowanforgus]

It’s better than the ID, and the ID3 itself is actually a decent enough EV

[@lkrnpk]

Still I like Škoda and Cupra EVs better than VWs...even if underneath it is ID

[@onlineo2263]

The id3 is a really good car. It suffers from duff software that won't be updatable in 5 years time, some stupid decisions on frunk and electric window buttons and cheaper interior materials... But all in all it is definitely good-great car. Would consider it on an offer. I have heard the Born is even better.

[@onlineo2263]

​@@protagonist9716I highly doubt it. If you could get a Born for the same price as an MG 4 I would get the Born every time. The MGs are good for the price but you have to live will a lot of little annoyances like multiple bing and bongs, and some glitchy software.

[@Limousinegladiator]

GM EV cant wait

[@Sloth_girl-z2h]

Actually puts this in my sights. Always liked but overpriced and crappy VW infotainment, but at this price... hopefully others follow.

[@protagonist9716]

I'll take MG4 over this

[@onlineo2263]

I challenge you to take both for a test drive?

[@francisgeorge5922]

47000 for Corolla sized car ? No thanks

[@concentricholdings6029]

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[@icelandhouse]

It's funny this guy is talking only about cars even though his channel is called Electric Biking LMFO

[@LeonieBachmann-h7x]

Thanks so much to Elon to support Alice as German chancelor! She will save Germany and Europe!

[@leotek..]

right, by getting rid, once and for all, of all evs in germany. or maybe not, now that she is his newest girlfriend.

[@mikemalone9678]

How did Fascism work out the last time in Germany, and Europe?

[@user-nh1yb9mk7y]

​@@mikemalone9678Poland is more fascist than AfD

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[@krasserTerror]

Another far right politician bought by Putin. Europe doesn't need to be saved by Russia, thanks.

[@endeshaw1000]

Schau mal einer guck XD ... auf einmal gehts... ^^

[@dbmn7571]

More EV's more electricity required at a higher cost. Australia closing their reliable electricity production sources. If in the city you'll have options but, in the outback,...goood luck. For those already driving EV's, you haven't seen the yet the problems that'll occur when the electricity is more expensive and not available like a gas station. Maybe China can run some electricity cables to Australia from all of their coal fired plants they've build.

[@boballen9095]

Sam, meet Mr. MGUY who also I've no idea if you two know one another. I suspect perhaps not, possibly with intent. Sam you know already that I find you to be well informed, rationaland that your KZbin channel provides insight and opinion on the topic of all thing related to Battery Electric Vehicles. I'm less sure the same can be said for Mr. MGUY. This is to urge the two of you to compare notes of a factual nature and see what emerges. www.youtube.com/@mguytv/videos www.youtube.com/@electricviking

[@micoots]

I've watched some of mguys videos didn't like them didn't subscribe. You can tell the bias. I personally prefer factual channel's, not everyone gets it right but some are more than others.