Curing Our COVID Myopia (w/Dr. Marty Makary)

[@ZDoggMD]

Ad-free version along with a wonderful tribe of humans here on Locals: zdoggmd.locals.com/post/2122333/curing-our-covid-myopia-w-dr-marty-makary Website version with links and audio-only podcast: zdoggmd.com/covid-myopia/

[@wakemewhenitsover3021]

My daily work-office is on airplanes as a flight attendant- I have not experienced anyone giving anyone else a hard time on their mask/ no-mask choices. The mask-mandate on planes/ airports ending has made my job soooo much better again.

[@MzClementine]

They never helped they actually hindered and hurt people even more. We found that out back with influenza and the Spanish flu which is actually, right out of fort Riley Kansas. Our military. It would be wise of you all to say no next time. Because it's coming it's right around the corner. If you haven't seen China taking its positions pay attention. While everyone is paying attention to Amber Heard and Johnny Depp's trial, our processing plants are blowing up. We don't make the steel to fix them. They've taken away our ability to produce energy. Pretty soon truckers won't even be able to bring food or goods across the United states. They have man-made all of it. Hope you have some food at home. I'm not joking.

[@joandefenbaugh2025]

I HATE that you were put in that position.

[@purplealiencookies7416]

Carful I hear the Vaxxxed pilots and stroking out mid flight ✈️

[@norvaz94]

I bet you’re so happy that you no longer have to be the mask 😷 police.

[@jasminecrandall2262]

I love Dr Makary! As soon as I saw he was the guest, I saved it immediately so I could enjoy it later.

[@ronaldbentley5167]

As a parent of a high school student who wanted to attempt suicide due to closure of everything in Michigan, I appreciate experts who continue to speak of the Mental Health concerns of our teenagers. Government officials did our kids quite a disservice.

[@rogerherrington3180]

And it was 'Thanks' to empress whitmer's closing of society.

[@ArkadyItkin]

Florida was not an extreme. It was the reasonable place everyone else should have been along with them.

[@mtmg3648]

True. And De Santis's covid response and standing up to the narrative has made him a very viable presidential candidate. If I am correct, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya was one of FL's advisors.

[@jesussavemetoday975]

I’m so glad the state of Florida is not purchasing covid vaccines for babies through 5 year olds. All other states are going to harm innocent little children for NO clinical efficacy and unknown future risks. Heartbreaking! How will a baby tell you she has chest pain?

[@elainemcdaniel3954]

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[@frommyhighhorse]

I wish we had these types of convos during the pandemic but better late than never. thank you

[@luddity]

Free speech is the first casualty of wars and pandemics, only to be revived once the money making opportunity is past and the billionaires are satiated.

[@falzdichotomy7959]

I can't thank you guys enough! With so much informational media toxicity out there, it's like a health spa break every time you guys (and Vanay) get together. Truly a pleasure learning from you all 🙏

[@AtypicalPaul]

I hope in my lifetime that I see a true positive change to the Healthcare system

[@vivaciousom5347]

Yes. Ditto.

[@healthcareplanforus1246]

We're going to IF ppl are willing to get engaged AND if we can come together as a Nation. I talk about so much of what they discussed in my upcoming book. What's missing is a viable Plan to implement "Health Care 3.0" which is what I'll be unveiling. The patient-care issues are easy to fix but cannot be done without having a solid foundation to build upon.

[@bajajoes1]

IT BEGINS WITH PEOPLE WILLING TO SAY "NO" TO DOCTORS!

[@ShimmyMD]

As a nephrologist I love that you discussed Beer Potomania.

[@CrisusAttucks]

I love Marty......my son son is just finishing up his spinal surgery fellowship, just signed an $800,000 contract in Dallas and bought a 2 million dollar home with zero down because he has no money, but he does have 400k in student loans......I'm moving in with him next year. lol

[@DiamondLil]

My favorite label in the grocery store right now is "plant-based popcorn."

[@kids.cats.crazy.]

It’s also gluten free!

[@AthenaProsperus]

Love your guys’ talks! Could you please do one going over all the Pf data dumps?

[@JConabike]

Haha don’t hold your breath! This guy is a clown.

[@hughchefner]

@@JConabike yeah grifters like z dogg and vinay prasad wont touch the pfizer dumps w a 10 ft poll. Thats not what theyre getting paid to do

[@MrsSheffield]

I doubt they’ll ever knock vaxxes, they promote them and believe in them no matter what facts/data come out.

[@monykalynf3604]

Dr Marty-do you know how many times i (Registered Dietitian) got YELLED at by the attending for asking about NUTRITION?!! OMG. Also-as a critical care RD STOP MESSING WITH MY TUBE FEED AND TPN'S!!!!! For the love of god-had to get the head transplant surgeon involved to have the IDIOT residents stop messing with my tubefeed over weekend on one transplant patient (years ago this happened)- and no one had checked his vitamin D level since admit (been months since admit by that time and by time I took over)-level nonexistent. massive doses of Vit D within a week was AWAKE(previous comatose), extubated (long since trached) and was starting to WALK. yes my mini rant to leave the nutrition to the professionals LOL

[@nutritiousyogi]

Wow that is insane. I worked in the corporate wellness space for a very large corporation as a nutritionist for all of 2020 and the first thing I did when this all went down was release an in-depth email on how the immune system works and ways we can support it because I felt a responsibility to do so. "Soon this info will hit the mainstream and folks won't feel so powerless.", I thought...... Yea, that sadly never happened.

[@marial3231]

Monykalyn, I heard about very similar situations that your describing and it is just wow. Criminal really. What in the world is happening to medicine. Seems like the pandemic has brought out certain traits ij people that are extremely unattractive and more often than not compromising to the well being of the patients. Thank you for advocating for your patients in this difficult environment 🙏🏼 health care providers like you are treasure💜

[@rogerherrington3180]

Can't you point malpractice at that resident?

[@ArkadyItkin]

I have a strong suspicion that I will never see the faces of workers in quite a few of my local cafes / grocery stores downtown San Francisco. It's so wrong and it's so sad.

[@hoju472]

These guys are on the ball 🔥 keep it up 💯

[@claredunn757]

Great conversation!! Love when you guys give your insight. I used to be the masked person outside. When I was debilitated by long covid I was so scared, the paranoia was real. Now that I’m stronger, recovering, and rebuilding my life I wear a mask indoors. People give me looks and snicker, that’s ok. I’m doing my best to move forward. I’m actually going to the gym now and take it off when I work out. I have come so far! Thanks for motivating me to get vaxed last fall.

[@patty-cf7jj]

I don’t get it. You have long Covid then you still got vaxxed??

[@claredunn757]

@@patty-cf7jj Yes mamn. I got covid dec2020. I got J&J shot. If you have not researched some long haulers get better. I am doing healthy protocols and it is possible the vax could have made me better. Anyway I made to choice to do so, and I am glad I did. In Dec 2020 it was my second time getting covid and it disabled me for almost over a year. I have my reasons for what I did, that simple!

[@MrC.USA.18]

Thanks!

[@ZDoggMD]

thank YOU!

[@hughscot]

These guys are great. I always watch when they are both on.

[@maliawhite4912]

Was looking for Makary’s congressional testimony and landed here. ❤

[@kannwilk7805]

As someone from Michigan we are very low income population, many do not regularly see a pcp until they are bad off, shitty hospitals that downsized over the years, we have huge many intergenerational households. Heavily obese and lack of primary care. Where our hospitals are located is problematic in relation to access to many. Then we have a very rural area in care zone desserts. We have areas were there should be superfund sites on the Eastside and central Michigan from past industries. Then you hold up Flint Michigan as an example of the shittiness of what our state has done over the decades. I am not sure but our parks were open. We could go to the beaches and only a portion of our play equipment was shut down. But I had my son’s birthday party at the park behind the city central government. We attended two birthday parties at the beaches for my son’s little friends. The count and state parks were free admissions without the pass or paying. So using a country that has great healthcare, and mainly single households with a very high standard of living. With a high public welfare system and public health system and per capita they are more educated.

[@Margo714P]

"I have to keep tanning on all 4 sides!" Oh stop, my face hurts from the Atrophy nickname and now this. Only 10 minutes in and my face hurts from laughing.

[@paulvillarreal1588]

Keep watching… the reprise of the “tanning on all four sides…” joke was even better!!! Haha Marty with the set up: “…if you’re not aware of what ‘obesity’ is…” ZDogg pounces with no hesitation! Haha!!!

[@virginiagaygandy9134]

Always enjoy when you two get together . . .

[@Nmaslow1974]

I miss these one on one dialogues with you two

[@Golgibaby]

Real talk on all fronts, thank you!

[@user-ch1bd8hb1l]

Another great show. Thanks guys!

[@Donnyboy65]

Love you two docs together

[@nima16042]

Really enjoy Marty and this discussion. I have to say that employer coverage is just a bad model though-it interrupts our access to physicians between jobs and makes us insecure while also stifling business and innovation. I do think some sort of single payer system with an HMO model and some sort of capitation payment structure would be the most rational, structured care while reducing admin bloat and unnecessary services. Doesn’t mean we need to go full NHS and socialize all hospitals though-I think there should be more medical cooperatives where physicians and providers can own their practices. Reducing pharma costs by collective bargaining is another huge piece to actually control costs and not just transfer middle class wealth to medical industry CEOs. I think we do need a transitional Medicare for all option though, so the program has to prove it can compete against the private market. I feel the situation overall in Europe is preferable to the feeling living on a knifes edge and being extorted for my asthma inhalers here. I was even a Bernie Sanders delegate before the whole COVID fiasco distanced me from the rest of the left (esp on mandates), so I’ve been thinking a lot lately about what practical, meaningful but EFFECTIVE healthcare reform would realistically look like. Sadly I do not think either party is at all interested in achieving this since they are funded by big pharma

[@michaeljkauffman1587]

Awesome conversation on the current state of the US healthcare system from two ppl who actually act & make a difference

[@jonva13]

I love the healthcare conversations. I just find myself nodding my head all through it.

[@dr.fabrizioprado1361]

I think there was a huge collective commotion fueled by media and political and financial interests that were masked under the commom good idea. But the fact is that we had, at the end, beaurocrats making decisions about health and population matters, based in a precarious science knowledge and without medicine, common sense and compassion.

[@jackiebraun5479]

Read about young people being interviewed about why they wanted to keep wearing masks. A lot of them said that they wear the masks because then they don't have to worry about having appropriate facial expressions or worry about how their faces looked. Nothing to do with health concerns

[@mtmg3648]

I was wondering why this was. Good god our country is in trouble. Our society is going to pay for the damage we have done to our youth and it won't be pretty.

[@hylitesjc25]

I have asked this question of a few practitioners. If we notice all of these politicized issues and unnecessary mandates in public policies/private policies, what do we do about it? When a museum doesn’t let young adults in who don’t have a third dose of an vaccine when there is no supporting data to support it. Where kids are prevented education unless they are vaccinated again without supporting evidence, what can we DO about this? There are still restrictions for unvaccinated people even if they have had Covid. So they have natural immunity but this is not respected. For those of us who “see “ this and also know the science, what can we do?

[@sadfurby2376]

Idk about you but my parents had to get me vaccinated for multiple things before enrolling me in kindergarten. That was 2004 lol. Did you have any issue with that before covid?

[@yohnnitozvhiesla8426]

@@sadfurby2376 Apples to oranges. Go draw titers for hep b, and watch yourself be amazed you're still immune. Go draw titers for covid after 3 shots and report back if you're still immune.

[@mcdee1313]

Marty is so darn handsome and a great individual. I love the banter between the two of you.

[@cydney5049]

As a future RN (I'll be done in December!), it's so good to hear you guys talk through issues in our healthcare system. I'm leaning toward working for a doc-owned/run surgical hospital if I can. Every nurse I've talked to that works for private surgical hospitals has high job satisfaction.

[@mercadoenterprise]

I guess it will be another year and a half before you talk about the dangers from the injections. Ok we will wait. Patience is a virtue.

[@healthcareplanforus1246]

I love listening to you two (& VP). I can't wait for you to see my Plan. Based on your conversations I'm 100% sure you'll like it. You talk about much of what I have a Plan to implement & I quote all 3 of you in my upcoming book.

[@willowtree8415]

So thankful for natural immunity! It was the answer needed to get us out of this fear COVID mentality !

[@Martin-bigsmiffy]

Vaccine has reduced IFR in Australia from 2% to now 0.14%. Natural immunity means millions more dead.

[@crunchybeen4263]

Now if everyone would admit that natural immunity is good and no jabs are needed.

[@MrsSheffield]

Besides interesting topics on this YT channel…i have to admit…I do love it when Dr. Marty is on…😍

[@sharonpinkerton8297]

You know what though, mom wasn't screened for colon cancer at 84 and got colon cancer at 86.She had a remarkable surgeon who was able to avoid ostomy with 4 hour surgery.She lives on at 94 years.

[@kids.cats.crazy.]

Reminds me of one time years ago I went for an annual checkup to a doctor insurance chose for me. He looked at my lab work and saw that my cholesterol was slightly elevated. He told me to stop eating cheeseburgers and milkshakes and that was it. Neither of those are things I eat regularly (sporadically and infrequently if that) but he saw some numbers and made an assumption. Did he ask about family history of heart disease, high blood pressure, elevated cholesterol? Nope. But he got paid for seeing me.

[@t.c.s.7724]

You two are very funny. Great discussion. I tend to think Attia has OCD, perhaps with a pinch of masochism. He's very interesting and highly intelligent, which can be seen in people with OCD.

[@cherylh7167]

How is one way masking effective for an aerosolized virus? Do you have any studies that back up your claim?

[@KINGJROC1979]

Funny...ran against this and decided to subscribe cause these 2 conversations is funny for them to be doctors..it reminds you that we are all humans...👑💯🙌🔥

[@barbaraross2017]

Less money spent on building new long term care facilities and invest in providing high quality howmcare to keep more seniors at home where they want to be. It has been shown to be very cost effective and elderly people maintain their mental and physical health longer.

[@phenomenalfemale524]

The CDC sucks.. Govt collected data on health matters should never be withheld from citizens.

[@Josh-fp2qn]

Omicron finally found me. I’m 34, unvaccinated. Day 4 of covid. So far first 2 days were the worst. Felt like a sinus infection. I was told symptoms could get worse on day 6 or 7.

[@amandabarber8161]

I was 35 when I got it in 2020. Never got worse than a sinus infection for me. Lots of head and sinus pain but no cough or trouble breathing at all. Lasted 10 days.

[@lisaleed7615]

@@MK-ih6wp how much NAC for Covid?

[@bullymaguire632]

Marty Makary really got that Peter Parker hair tho 💀 I guess it's better than having no hair 😳

[@frankherthem1794]

I literally had someone with beer potomania yesterday in the ed

[@drrachelblackie2976]

Veterinarians have non-compete clauses hard-core. I know a vet that had to leave a clinic and he wanted to stay living in the same town, so he did a different profession for 2years to work out the non compete. I had to leave a clinic and had to leave town and rent out my home in order to work. 🤦‍♀️

[@victorialoven2645]

I can’t tell you how spot on and true!! I payed the first bill and it was a huge burden after that for 6 years! I’m finally done and will never make that mistake again!

[@118debi]

In an emergency, take your own pulse. That's my favorite house of God rule

[@PIA-tj5hc]

From a nurse….excellent show!!!

[@Margo714P]

What are RVU's?

[@Larry_left_a_comment]

"I have more risk tolerance than Fauci". The man is 81!

[@emmyelijah7395]

Drs ZDogg, Marty and Peter Attia should get together for a podcast!

[@sanell6]

There is one actually

[@emmyelijah7395]

@@sanell6 oh really? Gotta hunt for it now, thanks.

[@dj_laundry_list]

I have COVID hypermetropia, so this doesn't help me :/

[@ZDoggMD]

I myself suffer from COVID astigmatism 😭

[@myhappygecko2895]

@@ZDoggMD Astigmatism SUCKS. I've had a bad one my entire life.

[@dj_laundry_list]

@@ZDoggMD DocVader clearly doesn't suffer from the same ailment, so those must be some fancy lenses in that mask

[@joanbeyerlein5891]

As a marathon swimmer I take issue with the idea of closing pools..really there is just pee in the pool and not poop..and hey you can't get Covid in a tub of bleach 😂

[@mthoodstyle]

Loved this pod! You two give me all the feels! Never heard GOMER before. I'm going to drop it with my ER friends on the sly 😂

[@TheMilford]

Anyway we can get a transcript of these shows?

[@jodistrock2765]

I made the decision to stay right above my “required wRVU” & make less = Quality over Quantity vs. my friend & colleague who wants to make a certain amount/year & has to see 10+ more patients per day… we are 11 years apart in age, so there’s that difference too. I will soon be 50 & ITS GONNA BE ALL DOWN HILL FROM HERE!! 🙏🤞😍😉

[@brockreynolds870]

What you REALLY need is direct care, you just pay a monthly premium to a network of hospitals, like a health club membership. If you need any services, they are covered. That would cut out the for profit middle man. Make health care cheaper for everyone,,, and require that all hospitals be non profit (60 percent already are) Doctors aren't as big of a deal. Lots of people can swing a doctor bill, let's face it, you'll never get a bill from a doctor's office for a quarter million dollars.

[@annatanneberger1]

I stopped watching ZDoggMD shortly after the covid drama started, because he seemed gung-ho about what a dangerous virus this is and then gung-ho about vaccines, so I'm not sure what he can possibly have to say about "the short-sighted approach to covid."??

[@jmkztube]

The parks were free and open in Michigan

[@go4damo]

"The line of academics and the private world is completely grey now." - Dr. Marty Makary, 2022

[@dianasthings729]

More like trying to overcome Pandemic Psychosis.

[@MzClementine]

They banned physician-owned hospitals?? The businessman.?? Come on we all know why they did this. Exactly what we're going through right now. Oh no we can't have an actual doctor speak out on our medical claims of medical claims were not professionals in. Oh come on humanity stand up.

[@our2kidsMR]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: my favorite episodes are the ones with Dr. Makary! He's got to be the Surgeon General in the next administration.

[@seanmcpherson7962]

Michigans population density is over twice swedens. Seems obesity+more than 2× population density easily could account for twice the deaths. What was r during the waves for each? was Michigan overwhelmed, etc. more intensely due to higher transmission rate due to density?

[@amandabarber8161]

My brother is a nurse in MI. Just anecdotally, his hospital in Southwest MI was completely overwhelmed during the last wave they had this last winter.

[@miguelcarrillo202]

Nice Job, Z. Your wine aptitude is impressive for a youngling. The Pinot sounded very promising, but unfortunately, the second Founder's Estate Beringer red is trash. That is barely at their second to bottom tier wine. I used to be a member there when Ed Sbragia was the winemaker, his Beringer Private Reserve Cabernets are legendary. I have had the pleasure of drinking nearly 20 years of those wines. I myself, have over 25 years in the education and enhancement of my wine knowledge. Will be testing for my entry level Sommelier certification this year. Then I have 3 more to go. Sommelier, Advanced Sommelier and ultimately if I live long enough, Master Sommelier. There are barely under 300 to ever pass that exam. I recommend Somm the movie series.

[@Logotic]

Fascinating conversation as always. The comparison between Sweden and Michigan was especially interesting. One thing I'll put out there regarding Michigan is that they haven't had any statewide mandates since June of '21. People seem to assume that because it's a Democratic state that they still have the strict rules, but to their credit they decided that mandates really weren't necessary after vaccines became widely available. (And, omicron or no, I was absolutely delighted to spend a mask-free week in Detroit over the Xmas holidays.)

[@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw]

I have family there and even if the restrictions only lasted till June '21 they were very strict. Their governor was almost kidnapped and executed

[@Logotic]

@@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw Yes indeed, it got very ugly, and I'm pretty sure that figured into the decision to abandon mandates. It maybe illustrates yet another similarity between Sweden and Michigan. Both have small but very long-standing far-right movements. Sweden's approach did not give ammunition to those guys. Michigan's initial approach did.

[@devonmackify]

I think that they are talking about the Canadian vaccine, Medicago Covifenz, which as been approved in Canada. Not sure where it's at on an international front.

[@kammonkam4905]

It is not certified by the WHO because Philip Morris the tobacco company has share in it and the protein is cultivated from tobacco plant. The WHO doesn't like the fact that it is created with money derived from selling cigarettes. The government says it will find other venues to make it available to other countries.

[@brockreynolds870]

No, you don't have private equity running the hospital... most time in the catholic hospitals, a board of NUNS runs the hospital, and does it well.

[@SymphonicEllen]

the ones here were way better when the nuns were in charge. Not sure when exactly they switched but the care my great aunt received 30 ish years ago seemed far better than what my mom is getting.

[@monykalynf3604]

THANK YOU JENNIFER FOR SPONSORING DR MARTY!!

[@mint4444]

COVID myopia has had catastrophic results for healthcare. Here in Canada, our healthcare system is collapsing. Our ER wait times have gone from hours to days. Rape victims are being turned away and told to come back later. Cancer screenings etc. just aren't being done. Mental health emergency? Good luck. People have literally died waiting in the ER. The government spent all our healthcare dollars on COVID, and didn't build hospitals or increase beds or personnel. This is unacceptable.

[@cnkis]

I had to leave the Bay Area, because they were so insane. I live in a red state now. SO much better!

[@jannz1942]

The conversations these two have are always entertaining but ... ( shaking my head ) ... STILL promoting these " vaccines"..??.. Seriously?? ...and STILL no discussion on the importance of EARLY TREATMENT... which is the hallmark of good health care. Again... always entertaining... but in my mind puts them in the " captured " category.

[@joandefenbaugh2025]

Monitization of his channel is more important than truth and facts that can save lives.

[@scottcped]

Leftists are gonna leftist.

[@ssimon311]

I occasionally come back to this channel (only because of notifications), and get disappointed. Z seems so smart but his brain tends to hit a wall when he promoted the stroke pokes and nothing else. Myopia.

[@scottcped]

@@ssimon311 EXACTLY

[@harrywallington185]

@@ssimon311 Same here...just happened to watch an amazing philosophical discussion he had...definitely eye-opening in terms of greater reality...and yet still cannot accept the most basic immediate ones that should be in front of his face? Honestly completely baffling...

[@FallopianDismay]

For the conversation re covid, start at 13 min in. Good vid. Thx

[@toomanycatsfive]

Love me some nice Pinot🍷… and I’ve actually had Moshin. Not good for my acid reflux tho😢

[@alantasbler4581]

Wine isn't good for us? That's just crazy talk man!

[@PIA-tj5hc]

Yes….the 50% are serving!!! America has to do better.

[@greenlissy]

The Kermit Solution - best name EVER!!!

[@traiandanciu8139]

Must fear to have fear, but must have correct information

[@lizwiens671]

Great discussion as always! Interesting how young people are drinking less. I think it’s fashionable to disparage the generation below you but we need to look at the good and the bad. Same as when young people disparage the ‘boomers’. There was a lot of progress in their generation, I don’t know why we try to erase a whole group of people because some of the issues they created. The human race is just more complicated than that.

[@kammonkam4905]

Here many delivery guys on bikes wear masks, I suspect it has more to do with pollution than COVID since I see them removing it when they get off.

[@bradr539]

Marty just wanted a free t-shirt..🙃

[@G-Ross_Custom_Creations]

per rectum... i actually laughed out loud in a conference meeting! 😂

[@davidgena2667]

My neighbor friend is over 65 with a stable comorbidity and has had the vaccine with one booster. He had Covid in December, 2020. Should he receive the 4th shot? Thanks.

[@sagebrushnv]

Less alcohol among 18-22 sounds good but I agree it’s being traded for a far worse problem

[@karenkaren3189]

I stopped drinking 10 years ago because I knew that I was drinking too much. I miss it at times but my weight has remained at my premenopausal level and I have the skin of a 45 yr old. I know not drinking has helped in those two areas.

[@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw]

29:17 "we have to do everything at all costs to avoid 1 infection". We see this mentality with gun deaths and automobile accidents as well. "If it just saves 1 life it is worth it" the anything goes ends justify the means people. Even if it violates others freedoms and the founding principles of this country.

[@JasonRyerDenver]

Interesting the first 10 minutes focuses on wine - yet without nuance of which wines are healthier (ie less bad) than others. One thing I learned years ago was, beyond simply the alcohol content, there are various other factors that make some wines worse (and less bad) than others. More specific, most wines contain high levels of sugar, alcohol, and FDA-approved additives (76 of them!). In my world, a true wine connoisseur would know these things - rather than going by the taste (and more often the price, marketing / branding).

[@kc9502]

WHERE WAS VINAY?!???

[@shannonhodges1775]

Moshin Vineyards makes amazing wine!!!

[@kanstrand]

What if instead of smoking a cigar, you smoke some cannabis in an ice water bong? LOL

[@wednesdayschild3627]

The social effect of drinking and eating together might be the thing.

[@chazmann108]

What's happening with comments from your bud, Ashish?

[@Libertariun]

07:15 conflict of interest story featuring Pfizer.

[@sandymorrison1400]

When I was a kid we used to swim downstream from the cows in McDermitt Creek...poo!

[@GodlessPhilosopher]

ZDogg looks like skinny Joe Rogan.

[@DahVoozel]

Pools were closed during polio outbreaks.

[@scottschaus4619]

“Weeping and gnashing of teeth” is the phrase you were seeking. 5-6 occurrences in the Gospel of Matthew :)

[@DrakesDomain]

The main problem with the 1976 'Judgement of Paris' that nobody ever tells you is that 90% of the French Judges in that tasting had never tasted a California wine before. So it's a little like any blind tasting where the sweeter/fruiter/rich product tends to win. Not taking anything from Napa Valley wines...the nice thing about the Judgement of Paris is that everybody ended up winning in the end (e.g. winemakers and consumers everywhere benefitted)

[@chrissargent3136]

What bullshit. They did it again 10 years later. Same result. And again 30 years later, with the American wines drubbing the French.

[@DrakesDomain]

@@chrissargent3136 Chief, no need to be so angry. This isn't about who made the best wine. BUT it's an undenyable fact that 90% of the French judges never tasted a California wine before. It'd be like a gymnastics judge in the Olympics deciding the Gold Medal without ever having judged the particular discipline. Obviously it maks a difference. And the fact that Stag's Leap won by such a small margin obviously makes you wonder if the judges lack of experience with California wines played a role. What you should REALLY tell evrybody though, is that every time the Judgement of Paris has been recreated over the years, different wines have won (e.g. Stag's Leap never 'repeated')...indicating that blind tasting of wine is what is truly BS in this whole discussion.

[@chrissargent3136]

@@DrakesDomain not angry… and the Americans made the best wine… over over again in every major head to head competition since then …