Atheist Asks TOUGH Questions: EPIC Response! (Q&A)

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Daily Dose Of Wisdom

Daily Dose Of Wisdom

Күн бұрын

Frank Turek is asked a series of challenging questions by a young atheist in a Q&A line. This conversation is remarkable. You can find all of Frank’s videos at @crossexamined
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@boblawblaw1354
@boblawblaw1354 Жыл бұрын
I am being 100% honest.. Today, I had this exact same question in my mind. What created God? I start mindlessly and randomly browsing my KZbin feed and see this video shows up.. I truly believe this video was Gods way of giving me answers…Just like what was stated in the video.. if you seek God out he will show you the way.
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing! God is good ❤️
@lionoffireministries
@lionoffireministries Жыл бұрын
Amen. You seem so genuine in your search for truth. God is real, and God is good. God bless you, friend 🙏
@JL-fg2vk
@JL-fg2vk Жыл бұрын
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@pepepena1937
@pepepena1937 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@Daily_Dose_Of_WisdomMy 11 year old daughter had the same question less than one hour ago. Just went to go to sleep and open KZbin and this is first video that pops up.
@mrjoeykim
@mrjoeykim Жыл бұрын
I look forward to reading about it on your law blog. :p
@niallmurray8654
@niallmurray8654 Жыл бұрын
What a healthy debate that was. Respect to both people.
@mysticnovelbro
@mysticnovelbro Жыл бұрын
not really, the atheist based all his arguments on, excuse the UNINTENDED PUN, on bad faith principles. Thats not healthy, thats condemnatory.
@JL-fg2vk
@JL-fg2vk Жыл бұрын
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@ShuggaMug
@ShuggaMug Жыл бұрын
I agree.... Both sides were patient, clear and respectful. The lack of emotion was also refreshing.
@mysticnovelbro
@mysticnovelbro Жыл бұрын
@@ShuggaMug were we watching the same clip? lol
@FBI-ju5no
@FBI-ju5no Жыл бұрын
​@@mysticnovelbro Care to explain?
@InvisageStudios
@InvisageStudios Жыл бұрын
That wasn’t a debate, that was a guy seeking answers and he had the humility to sideline his ego and ask. ❤
@Kimmy-Shortvids
@Kimmy-Shortvids 7 ай бұрын
1k
@BrokenDiety1
@BrokenDiety1 7 ай бұрын
And he got for it was more sophistry.
@christianlenik5307
@christianlenik5307 7 ай бұрын
that Atheis wanted HIS Answer, not THE answer
@Rafaelecguit
@Rafaelecguit 6 ай бұрын
I mean...This is the mentality that everyone should enter into a debate, express their ideas but be open to listening and being wrong
@Aesop531
@Aesop531 6 ай бұрын
@mrao8819 you cant just spray the word "sophistry" and then run away. You should explain why and how what he said was fallacious or deceptive.
@dantebbe
@dantebbe Жыл бұрын
This kid is terrific. Good questions, and he phrased them more clearly than most anyone I’ve heard before. Discussing with someone like this is a gift because he helps everyone think more clearly about the topic. Very respectful too.
@cathyheston3029
@cathyheston3029 Жыл бұрын
And his peers listened also....❤
@malirk
@malirk Жыл бұрын
Why do you think God created anything?
@cathyheston3029
@cathyheston3029 Жыл бұрын
@@malirk Why would you think HE didn't or wouldn't?
@83KJack
@83KJack Жыл бұрын
​@Brian Stevens we dont have to think 🤔 we KNOW 💡 God says it in His word He created us to worship and love Him. To be His bride, His family, His love!
@83KJack
@83KJack Жыл бұрын
​@@malirk and i am more than happy to respectfully answer any more questions you may have brother 👊
@mr.balawis9948
@mr.balawis9948 2 ай бұрын
The man is like a child asking curious and innocent questions about his existence. And i tell you, that is the very characteristic that is pleasing to our God.
@acberkowitz
@acberkowitz Жыл бұрын
This kid was brilliant and respectful, we should all strive to ask questions just as this kid did
@dimi3446
@dimi3446 Жыл бұрын
These questions cannot be answered. They’re undecidable for now because we don’t have the right questions to ask yet.
@MsViva710
@MsViva710 Жыл бұрын
@@dimi3446 I know that GOD IS because the prophecies made thousands of years in the bible are fulfilling so precisely these days.
@dimi3446
@dimi3446 Жыл бұрын
@@MsViva710 I generally believe it’s good for people to believe in something because it makes them better people and I also see religions more like traditions and not so much about God necessarily. What happened back in those days? Nobody knows for sure but there’s definitely something paranormal and we call it paranormal because we don’t have the understanding of physics yet but it’s more likely that it was non-human intelligence rather than the creator of the universe because even the word “creator” doesn’t make sense. Who created the creator? See? We don’t have the right questions to ask and that’s because we don’t have the physics yet or maybe we do in some black project. Remains to be seen. So back to what I was saying, it’s undecidable, at least in terms of public knowledge that is protected under the freedom of information act. In terms of secret knowledge, there’s probably a lot more that we are unaware of.. meaning the public.
@obrien709
@obrien709 Жыл бұрын
Peaceable and respectful. Definitely not brilliant. Everyone knows about God and it’s nothing more than willingly ignorant to deny His existence.
@mrsix344
@mrsix344 Жыл бұрын
And hes smart too
@ryanpalmquist4823
@ryanpalmquist4823 Жыл бұрын
I love how polite that kid was... I wish everyone could discuss hard personal issues the way these two have.
@kristinlowther6260
@kristinlowther6260 2 ай бұрын
This was refreshing to watch. The young man was calm, respectful, and articulated his doubts and questions in a way that left openness for the other person to respond. They both spoke and they both listened. This is how it should be.
@aarontaylor1688
@aarontaylor1688 Жыл бұрын
THAT is what healthy debate/discussion looks like. No screaming, finger pointing or accusations. I wish more people in society would learn to communicate better with each other.
@nezkeys79
@nezkeys79 Жыл бұрын
These are setup with rules people have to adhere by or they get kicked off and never asked back. A TV host for instance gets barely any time and has execs pushing them to move on. In a perfect world every debate has no time limit and everyone is allowed to speak with no interruption
@yalnevatekofreedom5096
@yalnevatekofreedom5096 Жыл бұрын
Blame pedo Kier Starmar
@maribelcantero8696
@maribelcantero8696 Жыл бұрын
My respect the guy who ask the question. He was polite and respectful. So many times I want to give up with GOD but I'm here waiting for him to hear me🙏🏾😭
@ssj02
@ssj02 Жыл бұрын
That is the rare thing called "wisdom". Not a lot of it out there. If case you've read "The Republic" - Plato - the points are made through a logic based dialog.
@steverenom.299
@steverenom.299 Жыл бұрын
The liberals especially need to learn this. They are quick to just call you a racist or Hitler or a sexist or whatever else as soon as you disagree with them about something.
@loganlyndsea135
@loganlyndsea135 Жыл бұрын
That young man grabbed my heart! So polite, well spoken and intelligent. It's my hearts prayer and desire that he would come to the saving knowledge of God and find peace in it.
@liliangabriel4548
@liliangabriel4548 Жыл бұрын
God is already callibg him. He just needed his questions and confusions to be answered.
@pizzagui2pizza437
@pizzagui2pizza437 Жыл бұрын
When you leave comments that make you seem cultish lol.
@190light
@190light Жыл бұрын
He doesn’t need to come over. Leave the boy alone
@Jik239
@Jik239 Жыл бұрын
Until he’s burning down the cities with a ski mask because he thinks black people are beneath him, with a sign that says “put trump in jail, because “I think” he’s a danger to our democracy so I don’t want anyone to be aloud to vote for him” 👍
@MiguelGonzalez-ni8dy
@MiguelGonzalez-ni8dy Жыл бұрын
What would happen to him? Eternal love in hell?
@mabelameba
@mabelameba Жыл бұрын
This is the healthiest, ego-free conversation I've heard. Love how both sides validated eachother. I wish we could extend this level of respect and embrace towards other subjects that are so polarized today.
@JFlyer1973
@JFlyer1973 Жыл бұрын
Too bad political debates didn’t follow this model of debate!
@tracezachdaniels4264
@tracezachdaniels4264 Жыл бұрын
YES.!!!!!!!! IN LEARNING CLASS TODAY... intelligent people discuss ALL things......and well not so intelligent people ARGUE and separate themselves from discussions and ALL things they disagree with which IS hmmmm NOT intelligent and or ''not well thought out'' and or ''' ignorant '' and Ignorant people are just STUCK in their thinking process and I am in NO way speaking down to Ignorant people I am JUST pointing out the obvious ALL humans HAVE the ability to NOT be Ignorant IN FACT we are ALL born to be constantly learning ''' Ignorant ''......we ALL are but '''STUPID'' is KNOWING better and STILL choosing to be willfully Ignorant .....well.....THAT IS ALL ON YOU .....and I hope you always STAY LEARNING....it's the best ...I promise....MUCH LOVE...[[[[Teesus]]]]]
@NikkiJayArtistry
@NikkiJayArtistry Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@samuelkapia820
@samuelkapia820 Жыл бұрын
@mabela.. Well stated. 👍 Agreed 100%
@The_Situation
@The_Situation Жыл бұрын
​@@JFlyer1973I see this argument a lot. The issue is that a debate is one thing, we can all agree or disagree and nothing comes of it. In politics decisions have to be made about things that greatly affect peoples lives. It's the making of the decision that often angers those who oppose said decision.
@KINDAtheexpert7608
@KINDAtheexpert7608 2 ай бұрын
I’m the atheist guy debating turek. Huge respect to both gentlemen. Your right, both were VERY fair, consistent, non evasive, articulate and showed humility. Love to see it
@hellodaviddunn
@hellodaviddunn Жыл бұрын
I’m a Christian but man I needed this today. Left me emotional. Thanks for sharing this. Subscribed.
@shelleymurphy1966
@shelleymurphy1966 Жыл бұрын
Ditto!
@maccusmc
@maccusmc Жыл бұрын
I don't know how anyone can be Christian. Why believe in something there is no evidence for?
@frankhouck4446
@frankhouck4446 Жыл бұрын
@@maccusmc 1. There is all kinds of evidence for God, you just refuse to open your eyes. I’m know this comment will open a “pandoras box” of questions/debates, and there is some great videos on many of those questions. 2. Faith. 3. Philosophically, I could argue “why would anyone not believe in God when there is no evidence he does not exist”? I hope you find your way.
@maccusmc
@maccusmc Жыл бұрын
@Frank Houck great show me this evidence. Secondly, faith is belief without evidence. When we believe things without evidence then you can justify anything. Like 911
@kf91274
@kf91274 Жыл бұрын
​@@maccusmcHe won't, bc there is no evidence.
@erinjoyner3739
@erinjoyner3739 Жыл бұрын
The difference between this kid and most atheists who 'debate' Christianity is that he's actually -searching- for answers, instead of searching for a way to disprove the answer. He wants to know, genuinely, and that's why he's not just kicking and screaming against the words being said. He walked away from that debate a winner whether he got the answers he was expecting or not, because he was respectful and actually -listened-. Good on him.
@The6thMessenger
@The6thMessenger Жыл бұрын
But see, trying to disprove answers is how science works. If you look for answers, to prove something, you will inevitably find something, no matter how stupid or improbable it must be. That is confirmation bias -- it's how flat-earthers stay flat-earthers.
@erinjoyner3739
@erinjoyner3739 Жыл бұрын
@@The6thMessenger While I don't disagree that scientific theory required as much disproving as proving, and they're certainly discussing some science based ideas, I would actually argue that this conversation is largely more faith based than science based. But what I meant, and probably didn't phrase right was more that most theological/atheist debates I've seen are largely just arguments for superiority, rather than actually discussions for information. This one felt the contrary to that! Hope that clarifies!
@sagemodead9877
@sagemodead9877 Жыл бұрын
I think you have a very harmful view of atheists. I’m an atheist and I watch videos on religion all the time looking for answers, I just think the points coming from the sides of the atheists make more sense to me personally. A small portion of us are “kicking and screaming” and make the others look bad. Just the same as a small portion of religious people are super judgmental and make you look bad. I feel like most rational people from both sides are just looking for answers, there’s just a small portion of them that make both sides look bad, and of course they’re the ones that are shown more often because they’re seeking attention.
@erinjoyner3739
@erinjoyner3739 Жыл бұрын
@@sagemodead9877 I don't recall giving a view in a generalized sense - only that the majority of these videos are not so good natured and usually result in a screaming match (often one sided).
@sagemodead9877
@sagemodead9877 Жыл бұрын
@@erinjoyner3739 I definitely have saw it both ways, but I think either way neither side is a good representation of that group of individuals as a whole
@JmesFloyd76
@JmesFloyd76 Жыл бұрын
You know that a debate is a war of words, but not of violence and profanity, but an apologetic display of logic and common sense. This debate was well done, no one was offended, and the one questioning was humble enough to accept the response when it addressed all of the problems of the questioner.
@JL-fg2vk
@JL-fg2vk Жыл бұрын
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@nicolab2075
@nicolab2075 Жыл бұрын
Or he couldn't be bothered to go into it. The big bang is not necessarily the beginning of the universe.
@BirdNatureView
@BirdNatureView Жыл бұрын
​@@nicolab2075 How is it not?
@nicolab2075
@nicolab2075 Жыл бұрын
@@BirdNatureView Because we have no idea what came before it. It could be the big bang emerged from some pre universe state that has always existed. It seems to be likely that the big bang emerged from something rather than nothing (although we can't prove that either)
@ContriteCatholic
@ContriteCatholic Жыл бұрын
I suppose he was genuine in his quest for truth and when he heard it, there was no point in trying to "win" the debate. Such a delight to witness.
@victora.juarez1835
@victora.juarez1835 8 ай бұрын
I really needed this video, I was feeling like everything seemed like the world was about to shut down and I was saddened by this fear of dying. Now I know that resuming my faith in God gives me the comfort to continue living and appreciate the things he gives me.
@georgechristopher3736
@georgechristopher3736 2 ай бұрын
That is very good to hear my friend!
@Uwiskqu
@Uwiskqu 5 күн бұрын
how Ironic I am here cause I wanted to die
@Jindy2
@Jindy2 11 ай бұрын
This was just wonderful. That young guy was a true seeker - no arrogance, very humble. He will find the truth.
@Jeremy-vo3ul
@Jeremy-vo3ul 10 ай бұрын
And hopefully u shall find truth
@bankruptwizard
@bankruptwizard 10 ай бұрын
@@Jeremy-vo3ul he already did
@Universal-e2c
@Universal-e2c 9 ай бұрын
Radhe Radhe 🕉️
@Getthetruth5
@Getthetruth5 8 ай бұрын
Amen
@MsBob314
@MsBob314 8 ай бұрын
@@Getthetruth5yes, amen. Amen in that he found the truth in that not only are we not certain, but the god assumption is the most of ignorant of the stated options.
@beasthunt
@beasthunt Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the guy asking the questions was the type of person you would hope we would all be when asking questions.
@veneno6388
@veneno6388 Жыл бұрын
It was set up . All fake
@ssist01
@ssist01 Жыл бұрын
Nice logo.
@jamespawson6045
@jamespawson6045 Ай бұрын
It’s a religious person’s wet dream! The guy was nice but did not debate well at all.
@stever3425
@stever3425 Жыл бұрын
Imagine our politicians having the same conviction, mind opening, reflexion and respect as these guys. The world would be sooooo different.
@quinnhaynie7767
@quinnhaynie7767 Жыл бұрын
I think you’re saying that a meritocratic system of public discourse would be a benefit to the government of our societies. 100%. Now. Just figure out a way to suppress the opulent reach and influence of the plutocrats and I think you may have a platform.
@CatsAreAwesome146
@CatsAreAwesome146 Жыл бұрын
bro we wouldn't even need multiple parties that would be great
@GoAwayBrandon
@GoAwayBrandon Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately politicians don't have the intelligence
@gingercake0907
@gingercake0907 Жыл бұрын
You will always have multiple political parties because you will have rich people with different agendas about how to stay in power.
@ruthegan8524
@ruthegan8524 Жыл бұрын
Some of them are, thank God.
@WiLian-i9c
@WiLian-i9c 6 ай бұрын
Revelation 22:6 said: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the end".
@AfricanSouthernCross
@AfricanSouthernCross Жыл бұрын
All I can add is that this young man is way more intelligent than me, I believe in God but I just do, this young man has actually very credible questions and he isn’t arrogant or smug trying to get the gotcha question.
@JL-fg2vk
@JL-fg2vk Жыл бұрын
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@drewzalo
@drewzalo Жыл бұрын
A true seeker of truth
@jpix96
@jpix96 Жыл бұрын
I hope he finds the person who said: "... I am the way and the TRUTH and the life. ..." John 14:6
@fredwinslow744
@fredwinslow744 Жыл бұрын
The professors answers were entirely rational. Although rationale is a human endeavour and god is possibly a creation of man and god doesn’t mind us drawing that “rational “ conclusion and still apparently wants us to know his presence
@malirk
@malirk Жыл бұрын
I think it's great to seek truth. I always wonder when talking with people. 1) What convinced you of the God you believe in? 2) At what age did you become convinced? Feel free to answer.
@nunyabiz2889
@nunyabiz2889 Жыл бұрын
This is how all debates should go down. Repect and intelligence on both sides.
@chaschoune
@chaschoune Жыл бұрын
Nah, the response were not intelligent.
@mightbeahuman3442
@mightbeahuman3442 Жыл бұрын
@@chaschoune why’s that?
@chaschoune
@chaschoune Жыл бұрын
@@mightbeahuman3442 He misrepresents what science says to better make his point. Ex: he misrepresents what the second law of thermodynamics says, he uses the big bang as if science use it as a proven fact, which it is not, ...
@lonewolfx499
@lonewolfx499 Жыл бұрын
Massive respect to that young man for being open-minded, respectful, and most of all curious.
@matijaslat2100
@matijaslat2100 10 ай бұрын
yeah, well educated and polite young man
@jiloronbinmakunton184
@jiloronbinmakunton184 10 ай бұрын
Questioning God existence is not a good curiosity..
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 4 ай бұрын
The young guy was cool being respectful and honest about his Atheistic views. I'm glad brother Frank Turek addresses Atheism and beliefs of other religions and worldviews on Cross Examined ministry. I was an atheist and agnostic from 17-19 years old until I discovered evidence of God's Existence and Christianity myself. Creation requires a Creator we human beings would call God. Atheists seem to think that God cares if we know that He exists or not obviously don't understand why the last book of The Bible is called Revelation because He finally reveals Himself to the whole world. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth (Yeshua H'Mashiac The Messiah in Hebrew) is The Son of The Living God came to save us from the Eternal consequences of our sins. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@petermilne4243
@petermilne4243 9 ай бұрын
I am so happy I found this channel. It is going to help me “Bring People to Jesus” and “Jesus to people”. Thank You.
@brandonboss6868
@brandonboss6868 Жыл бұрын
I'm so used to listening to dramatic political debate/arguments. It was amazing to see an intellectual conversation between two very brilliant lads. One person sits and listens, while the other speaks. Then stops speaking, awaits a response. Amazing!
@pauljohnchimba7529
@pauljohnchimba7529 Жыл бұрын
Dude I’m already a Christian but Frank just preached to me. 😢 He loves me too much to force himself on me.
@john1425
@john1425 Жыл бұрын
Yeah thats because his arguments are only convincing of you already agree with the conclusion.
@johnx140
@johnx140 Жыл бұрын
​@@john1425 keep coping lmao
@john1425
@john1425 Жыл бұрын
@@johnx140 Coping with what?
@nickxenix
@nickxenix Жыл бұрын
​@@johnx140Average christian who worships God but still ends up in hell.
@pipsiscroudel3847
@pipsiscroudel3847 Жыл бұрын
Christianity is a culture, not a fact. Whatever you choose to follow should only be able to facilitate an evolution to your being. Giving you the tools to be able to unshackle you from any limitations spiritually and within in life. Religions generally tend to tie their followers to them too tightly through greed and control (Spanish inquisition, taliban in Afghanistan) rarely do they give the tools to help you guide your own spiritual development which in turn then evolves the religion itself. It was a Roman Emperor Constantine that developed Christianity to have the heaven and hell notion in order to have some allegiance and obedience towards his religion. Creating fear among his people not freedom. It originally had the belief of reincarnation. Says a lot about the idea of God giving free will, when it could be that you are a piece of god and free will is an immutable condition to your being as God has ultimate free will. Making you your own saviour. Buddhism has many great tools of self development and its said that Jesus was a reincarnation of the Buddha.
@treefiddy2470
@treefiddy2470 Жыл бұрын
This is the kind of debate we need. Kudos to both gentlemen
@Giantmidgetmotochannel
@Giantmidgetmotochannel Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t much of a debate, bro asked a grade school level question and the speaker answered with platitudes and baseless assertions
@Miked1332
@Miked1332 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I love when people go in, ask tough questions and is still open to the response and asking questions without being disrespectful. Just asking these questions to hear someone's answer.
@Giantmidgetmotochannel
@Giantmidgetmotochannel Жыл бұрын
@@Miked1332 yeah, but this wasn’t a tough question, the who made god question is one I heard in bible school as a child, a tough question would be like: how can we trust the message of the Bible is true when so much of it is demonstrably false? Like I wouldn’t trust a ikea instruction manual to build a shelf if it was constantly incorrect or missing parts or steps.
@markskojec863
@markskojec863 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Giantmidgetmotochannel- I disagree that much of the Bible is demonstrably false. Are you willing to defend that claim that you smuggled into the question you posed?
@Giantmidgetmotochannel
@Giantmidgetmotochannel Жыл бұрын
@@markskojec863 of course, and you don’t have to take my word for it, there are libraries full of examples of inaccuracies, contradictions, and preposterous claims (like the nature of the planet) that biblical scholars have gone over in great detail. Did you have a favorite bit that you think shows a clear example of the Bible giving an accurate representation of something profound?
@ElsaTube-j4i
@ElsaTube-j4i 9 ай бұрын
If there was ever a video that I should memorize, this one is it! It is so compact and to the point. So clear and logical. For sure, I'm going to memorize it!
@brianmesser12
@brianmesser12 8 ай бұрын
nobody knows what comes before bigbang
@Wendeta-hq2cp
@Wendeta-hq2cp 8 ай бұрын
​@@brianmesser12 There is nothing before it since there was no time. Just ☦️God☦️
@brianmesser12
@brianmesser12 8 ай бұрын
@@Wendeta-hq2cp I could just insert bugs bunnies with your logic. I need to have evidence for my truths.
@Wendeta-hq2cp
@Wendeta-hq2cp 8 ай бұрын
@@brianmesser12 Sure, ask away.
@brianmesser12
@brianmesser12 8 ай бұрын
@@Wendeta-hq2cp do you believe in all gods ?
@sithlord1051
@sithlord1051 Жыл бұрын
THIS is what debating should be! Respect and acceptance of one's another views. Well done, gentlemen!
@mycrazyaklife
@mycrazyaklife Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 Жыл бұрын
A debate is not accepting another’s point of view. A debate is discussing opposing viewpoints.
@uwekonnigsstaddt524
@uwekonnigsstaddt524 Жыл бұрын
Turek had a compelling argument. There are other ways Turek could have countered the so called assumed dichotomy. The answer is given by the Creator Himself on Jeremiah 17:9, Romans 1:18 amd several other passages.
@Itsuser_1234
@Itsuser_1234 Жыл бұрын
Respect what? Listening a person take a person serious who believes in fairy tales?
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 Жыл бұрын
@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 His arguments were not at all compelling anyone with a college level physics course could debunk his arguments.
@Paul-z7n6d
@Paul-z7n6d Жыл бұрын
His parents must be so proud of raising him so well. I'm proud for him.
@goldenpaperyt9763
@goldenpaperyt9763 Жыл бұрын
Yeah alot of people wouldnt be so respectfull. Me included i get really heated very quickly.. i would have been shouting at him in a minute
@CelebsTracker369
@CelebsTracker369 Жыл бұрын
@@goldenpaperyt9763 yes Jesus Christ Bless him
@scottr4278
@scottr4278 Жыл бұрын
What a smart kid. He asked his question in such a wonderful manner we should all take note. Me included.
@truthseekerKJV
@truthseekerKJV Жыл бұрын
This kid obviously studied material from another atheist's playbook on how to trip up Creationists. Any kid could have done that. And there is nothing intelligent about denying the existence of God Almighty.
@worldwithout72
@worldwithout72 6 ай бұрын
The question of who (or what) created God turns into circular logic. Who/what created God? Well then, who/what created them/that and who/what created its creator and on and on. Eventually, you can only come to one logical conclusion - Something/someone had to just exist. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? If the egg, doesn't the egg need a chicken and rooster to be created? If the chicken, where did the first chicken come from? Again, only one logical conclusion - something/someone had to just exist, so why can't that be God? Thank you, Frank, for such respectful responses to those who do not believe! God bless you, brother.
@GwladYrHaf
@GwladYrHaf 5 ай бұрын
Yes it’s a circular argument because in a universe where time exists and thus causality within that universe needs a cause outside, outside a time bound universe, causality is not longer a required imposition, because of the timeless nature outside a timebound creation. So yes I agree with you
@phillipbrown001
@phillipbrown001 Ай бұрын
That’s true, reminds me of the circular error in MS Excel…
@shanesimon1676
@shanesimon1676 Жыл бұрын
Usually in these debates, emotions are running high..people are screaming and cussing and whatever have you. But these guys are being very calm and respectful towards eachother. Good job!
@joseph7105
@joseph7105 Жыл бұрын
Props to the kid. He remained very calm and used his logic and reasoning without getting emotional. I pray he keeps searching, questioning everything, and finds the truth somr day.
@bender6316
@bender6316 Жыл бұрын
and if you're truth doesn't exist? then what?
@mathiasnkristensen
@mathiasnkristensen Жыл бұрын
​@@bender6316 then there's no harm done. You can be religious your whole life, but if death turns out to just be infinite nothingness, then your actions on earth will have no good nor bad impact on the afterlife. People will never find "the truth". That's why faith and belief exists. We can only have faith in our belief. We can believe that our belief is true, but we actually have no proof of our belief. Otherwise it wouldn't be a belief, but a fact.
@onsight2822
@onsight2822 Жыл бұрын
Religion is the cause of all wars and hatred in the world ! The crusades , Afghanistan , Ireland , , , , , , ,
@onsight2822
@onsight2822 Жыл бұрын
Never mind that religion destroyed the original path or worship and made it a crime 🤮 if we ALL worshipped mother earth instead of made up characters we would live in peace.
@loudenlaffnite246
@loudenlaffnite246 Жыл бұрын
@@mathiasnkristensen "then there's no harm done." Ah, Pascal's wager -- an apologist's best friend.
@stevenaleman7454
@stevenaleman7454 Жыл бұрын
How refreshing to see and hear a healthy debate/conversation between two sides that aren’t using hatred, bullying, threats of violence, intimidation, insults, and ridicule to get their points across…. Great job to both in the conversation.✌️😊👍❤️🤗🎤
@yoshisaidit7250
@yoshisaidit7250 Жыл бұрын
The Christian is using lies. Making claims that has no evidence. That in and of itself is in fact insulting, hatred, bullying, intimidation, threats of violence, and ridicule.
@pedrodimariaajao4849
@pedrodimariaajao4849 8 ай бұрын
I love that kid. He is intelligent with his questions. In fact, they are genuine questions for everyone to understand the question of God. God bless him and may he open his heart to God
@captainsorders8673
@captainsorders8673 Жыл бұрын
Big respect to this kid, very polite and respectful.
@domi69ify
@domi69ify Жыл бұрын
As an atheist, this is the best Christian apologetics I’ve ever heard! I’m actually impressed. Both sides were truly represented as well as possible. I’m happy to see a Christian actually presenting and understanding their faith the way I believe a true God would want. I don’t believe in hell, but how simply he defines hell almost makes me. I’m glad I watched this.
@roems6396
@roems6396 Жыл бұрын
He is 100% lying when saying that there is evidence against the universe being the un caused first cause. The universe itself can always be expanding and contracting. Heat isn’t disappearing in the universe. It is simply finite while the universe is currently expanding. “Space, time and matter had a beginning”. Yes….for THIS iteration of the universe. Each possible iteration has new time, space, and matter. This man is full of shit. There isn’t a shred of evidence that supports the existence of any god, and CERTAINLY not the Canaanite war god Yahweh, that eventually morphed into the nonsensical god of Christians.
@kimberg2539
@kimberg2539 Жыл бұрын
Humans only assume... we know nothing... so one could say god excist and doesnt excist at the same time if you follow our principles. But the way we view GOD is a holy deity personafied, the true father of jesus christ which most likely is another man made mythos. I dont believe in that kind of GOD, but as this guy answering the atheist said, that he thought of whats out there in space is what he thought is god that i can agree AND disagree with. There are forces we just dont understand and never will until we die, and even then we might not know it. There are only theories. You have on this earth as the guy stated "free will"... so you do with that what you want. My thesis is that we all are just like any other living organism on this earth, fragile and weak, but evolved to a point of what we concieve as HIGHLY intelligent. And just the fact that we may regard ourselves as highly intelligent prooves how uneducated and clueless we really are to the real forces of space/universe and its mysteries. What made it all is truly more complex than any lifeform will ever be.
@Mike-rt2vp
@Mike-rt2vp Жыл бұрын
​@@kimberg2539there is a gigantic amount that we do not know, and humility around that fact is gravely needed. But we do not know nothing.
@courve
@courve Жыл бұрын
The unavoidable fatal flaw of these religious apologetics or any failed argument in general is that they rely on at least one foundational assertion being true despite a lack of sufficient evidence or proof of that claim. How it’s a problem is that the unproven claim isn’t even at issue, and instead is just automatically accepted and is a springboard for what the conversation at hand is based on, which itself becomes fruit of the poisonous tree. As an example, when the speaker talked about the story discussing whether or not the mother who rejected the gospel is in hell or not. The answer that he discussed sounded nice, but he glossed over demonstrating that hell even existed. Absent of that, any discussion surrounding hell is irrelevant and invalid.
@justsittinhere72
@justsittinhere72 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you watched it, too. I was an atheist myself. If I couldn't "see" proof with my own senses, I didn't believe it but my quest for truth eventually brought me to a saving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. I don't regret a single moment since that day. My hope, even though I don't know you, is that you too will be blessed with that same eternal hope. John 3:16
@samanthatalmadgect3459
@samanthatalmadgect3459 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian and I thought this was amazing. The young man was incredible and made me think!! All of this was powerful.
@Is-there_a-ChristianGod
@Is-there_a-ChristianGod Жыл бұрын
Why are you at a Christian
@CurseSeer4561
@CurseSeer4561 Жыл бұрын
What about that young man did you find “incredible”, and what did his rudimentary, and juvenile questioning make you think about? In my view, the existence of God, and the forces of good and evil are so abundantly clear and observable in everyday life that I have to wonder whether or not these “sceptics” are even cognitively present in their own bodies to somehow miss the blatant evidence in front of them. When I see debates like this I have a hard time not just shutting my brain off completely because it’s such a boring subject.
@TgfkaTrichter
@TgfkaTrichter Жыл бұрын
@@CurseSeer4561 You realize that if god is real, he is responsible for every evil force in the world, at least when your god is the christian one.
@CurseSeer4561
@CurseSeer4561 Жыл бұрын
@@TgfkaTrichter That is the most brain dead comment I’ve read all day. We have free will. God doesn’t work your actions like a puppet with his hand up your ass. He will allow you to separate yourself from him if that is your choice. He will allow you to fall into sin if that is your decision. Evil is committed by those compromised by outside demonic influence, and who have willingly given up communion with God.
@codecraftercc
@codecraftercc Жыл бұрын
@@TgfkaTrichter imagine he isn't real. Aren't we just all morons then?
@ultrasone8450
@ultrasone8450 4 ай бұрын
This was most human and humble conversation about this topic i ever seen, Jesus Christ is our lord amen !!
@510dani4
@510dani4 Жыл бұрын
Wow. A debate with no yelling and screaming. We needcto get back to this. Excellent video
@guillermoelnino
@guillermoelnino Жыл бұрын
Must be a really old clip yhrn. I cant imagine an atheist today using anything close to an insidr voice not dripping with smug emotion.
@krisamagus1
@krisamagus1 Жыл бұрын
a very often seen superficial comment. Not fantastic, adds nothing to the topic. Sorry, don't wanna be rude, it1s just annoying to say the least.I wanna read topic related comments, instead I read your comment over and over, almost word by word. I just wanna kill myself. Please do not take it personally... I do not know you, I would be interested why did you feel you need to copy maybe rephrase a little the 20 thousand comment before you? Just why? What's the resoning behind it? I can explain my comment, can you yours?
@berserkki-4357
@berserkki-4357 Жыл бұрын
Agreed although I don't think there's been a time to go back to as we have never been in this place before
@guillermoelnino
@guillermoelnino Жыл бұрын
@@berserkki-4357 this is only a few years ago.
@bengeurden1272
@bengeurden1272 Жыл бұрын
A debate not yelling and screaming? In what world do you live? Where I live, we are civilized lol.
@gregorygant4242
@gregorygant4242 Жыл бұрын
This kid was awesome ,so humble and intelligent in his questions, not typical for most kids today !
@amschelmayer.7092
@amschelmayer.7092 Жыл бұрын
BOY or young man! Not 'kid'. Would you say 'kid' if it were a female? Indoctrinated feminized fool.
@alicomando1195
@alicomando1195 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Pbuh Wasn't Crucified Nor he died for our sins and He Never Told Us to Worship Him But Worship Only ALLAH (Only One GOD) بِسۡمِ ٱللَّهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيم Bismillah hir rahman nir raheem In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful. قُلۡ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ 112:1 Qul huwal laahu ahad Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, ٱللَّهُ ٱلصَّمَدُ 112:2 Allah hus-samad Allah, the Eternal Refuge. لَمۡ يَلِدۡ وَلَمۡ يُولَدۡ 112:3 Lam yalid wa lam yoolad He neither begets nor is born, وَلَمۡ يَكُن لَّهُۥ كُفُوًا أَحَدُۢ 112:4 Wa lam yakul-lahoo kufuwan ahad Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” ************ اللهم انا نعوذ بك من ان نشرك بك شيئا نعلمه ونستغفرك لما لا نعلمه O Allah, we seek refuge in You from associating partners with You while we know, and we ask Your forgiveness for what we do not know. ********* Dear people you have Warned ⚠️ in the Last Holy Book of Humanity (The Holy Book Quran) (5:72) And surely they disbelieved when they said: 'Christ, the son of Mary, is indeed God'; whereas Christ had said: 'Children of Israel! Serve Allah, Who is your Lord and my Lord.' Allah has forbidden Paradise to those who associate anything with Him in His divinity and their refuge shall be the Fire. (5:73) Those who said: 'Allah is one of the Three', certainly they disbelieved, for there is no god save the One God. And if they do not give up this claim, all who have disbelieved among them shall be subjected to painful chastisement. And for their saying, "We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God." In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him. Rather, God raised him up to Himself. God is Mighty and Wise. -Quran 4:157-4:158 وَاِذۡ قَالَ اللّٰهُ يٰعِيۡسَى ابۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ ءَاَنۡتَ قُلۡتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُوۡنِىۡ وَاُمِّىَ اِلٰهَيۡنِ مِنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰهِ​ؕ قَالَ سُبۡحٰنَكَ مَا يَكُوۡنُ لِىۡۤ اَنۡ اَقُوۡلَ مَا لَـيۡسَ لِىۡ بِحَقٍّ​ؕ اِنۡ كُنۡتُ قُلۡتُهٗ فَقَدۡ عَلِمۡتَهٗ​ؕ تَعۡلَمُ مَا فِىۡ نَفۡسِىۡ وَلَاۤ اَعۡلَمُ مَا فِىۡ نَفۡسِكَ​ؕ اِنَّكَ اَنۡتَ عَلَّامُ الۡغُيُوۡبِ‏  (5:116) And imagine when thereafter Allah will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to people: "Take me and my mother for gods beside Allah?" and he will answer: "Glory to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right to. Had I said so, You would surely have known it. You know all what is within my mind whereas I do not know what is within Yours. You, indeed You, know fully all that is beyond the reach of human perception. مَا قُلۡتُ لَهُمۡ اِلَّا مَاۤ اَمَرۡتَنِىۡ بِهٖۤ اَنِ اعۡبُدُوا اللّٰهَ رَبِّىۡ وَرَبَّكُمۡ​ۚ وَكُنۡتُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ شَهِيۡدًا مَّا دُمۡتُ فِيۡهِمۡ​ۚ فَلَمَّا تَوَفَّيۡتَنِىۡ كُنۡتَ اَنۡتَ الرَّقِيۡبَ عَلَيۡهِمۡ​ؕ وَاَنۡتَ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ شَهِيۡدٌ‏ (5:117) I said to them nothing except what You commanded me, that is: 'Serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' I watched over them as long as I remained among them; and when You did recall me, then You Yourself became the Watcher over them. Indeed, You are Witness over everything. اِنۡ تُعَذِّبۡهُمۡ فَاِنَّهُمۡ عِبَادُكَ​ۚ وَاِنۡ تَغۡفِرۡ لَهُمۡ فَاِنَّكَ اَنۡتَ الۡعَزِيۡزُ الۡحَكِيۡمُ‏ (5:118) If You chastise them, they are Your servants; and if You forgive them, You are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise."' قَالَ اللّٰهُ هٰذَا يَوۡمُ يَـنۡفَعُ الصّٰدِقِيۡنَ صِدۡقُهُمۡ​ؕ لَهُمۡ جَنّٰتٌ تَجۡرِىۡ مِنۡ تَحۡتِهَا الۡاَنۡهٰرُ خٰلِدِيۡنَ فِيۡهَاۤ اَبَدًا​ ؕ رَضِىَ اللّٰهُ عَنۡهُمۡ وَرَضُوۡا عَنۡهُ​ ؕ ذٰ لِكَ الۡـفَوۡزُ الۡعَظِيۡمُ‏ (5:119) Thereupon Allah will say: 'This day truthfulness shall profit the truthful. For them are Gardens beneath which rivers flow. There they will abide for ever. Allah is well- pleased with them, and they well-pleased with Allah. That indeed is the mighty triumph.' لِلّٰهِ مُلۡكُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالۡاَرۡضِ وَمَا فِيۡهِنَّ​ ؕ وَهُوَ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ قَدِيۡرٌ (5:120) To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is in them and He has full power over everything. Qur’aan 3:59-62] 3:59 إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُۥ مِن تُرَابٍۢ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ Verily, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allaah is like the example of Adam - He created him from dust and then said to him ‘Be’ and he was. 3:60 ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُن مِّنَ ٱلْمُمْتَرِينَ This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be from those who doubt. 3:61 فَمَنْ حَآجَّكَ فِيهِ مِنۢ بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا۟ نَدْعُ أَبْنَآءَنَا وَأَبْنَآءَكُمْ وَنِسَآءَنَا وَنِسَآءَكُمْ وَأَنفُسَنَا وَأَنفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَل لَّعْنَتَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَى ٱلْكَـٰذِبِينَ So whoever disputes with you concerning him (i.e. Jesus) after all this knowledge (about him) has come to you, say: ‘Come, let us summon our children and your children, our women and your women and ourselves and yourselves and then invoke God to send His curses on those of us who is lying.’ 3:62 إِنَّ هَـٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْقَصَصُ ٱلْحَقُّ ۚ وَمَا مِنْ إِلَـٰهٍ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُ ۚ وَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَهُوَ ٱلْعَزِيزُ ٱلْحَكِيمُ Verily, this is the true story (about Jesus). And there is no God that has the right to be worshipped except Allaah. And indeed Allaah is the All-Mighty, All-Wise.” I Pray to GOD to Guide me and My Christian and Jewish People to The Right Path And Truth. ❤️ 💙 💜 Ameen *************** Holy Book Quran 2:47 يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اذْكُرُوا نِعْمَتِيَ الَّتِي أَنْعَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأَنِّي فَضَّلْتُكُمْ عَلَى الْعَالَمِينَ 2:47) O Children of Israel! Recall My favour which I bestowed upon you, exalting you above all nations. (2:48) Fear the Day when no one shall avail another, when no intercession will be accepted, when no one will be ransomed, and no criminal will receive any help. Holy book Quran 7:143 Prophet Musa (Moses) Pbuh When Moses came at the appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he asked, “My Lord! Reveal Yourself to me so I may see You.” Allah answered, “You cannot see Me! But look at the mountain. If it remains firm in its place, only then will you see Me.” When his Lord appeared to the mountain, He levelled it to dust and Moses collapsed unconscious. When he recovered, he cried, “Glory be to You! I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers.”
@gregorygant4242
@gregorygant4242 Жыл бұрын
@@alicomando1195 Yeah ,right weirdo !
@dustinposey8476
@dustinposey8476 Жыл бұрын
Not typical for anyone in that manner...
@hardyharr9377
@hardyharr9377 Жыл бұрын
So you know most kids today?? Your stereotyping is showing...
@b_5443
@b_5443 11 ай бұрын
I had never heard anything from this man, but very much appreciate the way he engages with folks with such patience.
@Universal-e2c
@Universal-e2c 9 ай бұрын
Achyutam Keshavam Krishna Damodaram Rama Naraynam Janaki Vallabham 🕉️
@brannycedeno6823
@brannycedeno6823 2 ай бұрын
The atheist guy is close to salvation believe it or not. He has the humility to listen to the Word, and that's what he did right there.
@AVC.1111
@AVC.1111 Жыл бұрын
That guy’s face at the end of the answer from Frank Turek… it touched him. Good job Frank.
@Mastamindzmuzik
@Mastamindzmuzik Жыл бұрын
I thought he looked like he was going to cry.
@marianospencer
@marianospencer Жыл бұрын
No. He clearly is just a gentlemen. Turek`s example didn`t make sense. "His" god would punish someone just for not "believing" in him but rewards any murderer who does. Pablo Escobar is with god, he killed men, women and children, even killed his lovers, cheated, sold drugs. A true christian.
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 Жыл бұрын
I always like how Frank Turek is able to give so many obviously correct arguments (this time about physics) and I always agree with him for most of the video and then he just becomes illogical at one point. At point Turek's logic will always fall apart. This time it happens at time-point 4:14. No, if something immaterial and timeless caused the universe, which is a reasonable conclusion, we still don't know anything about that cause, except being immaterial and timeless. For example, we don't know that that cause is intelligent, which is the very important feature of a God.
@Mastamindzmuzik
@Mastamindzmuzik Жыл бұрын
@@goranmilic442 where aren't suppose to know everything. We don't have answers to a lot of things but we aren't God
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 Жыл бұрын
@@Mastamindzmuzik I agree. Then why is Turek pretending to have the answers, when he doesn't? There is a spaceless and timeless cause of the universe? Very well, I agree. But we must stop there, because we don't know anything else about the cause. We don't know it's God.
@chris.a8383
@chris.a8383 Жыл бұрын
The young Man is a thinker, it's not just about hearing his own voice or just wanting to know he's right. He is searching for answers. He is taking in information. Kind of guy you want in your corner. He makes uni student's look smart and gives us hope for the future.
@modofobia5626
@modofobia5626 Жыл бұрын
Yes , you ask questions not only to debate and try to win but rather valid questions and willing to listen.
@Thomas-yu7dh
@Thomas-yu7dh Жыл бұрын
The way he rolled off the S-U-R-G-E acronym without fail was nothing short of perfection. Such an insightful and productive debate between two clearly knowledgeable men.
@markford4127
@markford4127 Жыл бұрын
Its because they practice their bull answers so they look good..........but fail
@scatton61
@scatton61 Жыл бұрын
So he remembered an acronym .... yeay
@john1425
@john1425 Жыл бұрын
Yes rhetorically convincing but scientifically vapid.
@Jashtvorak
@Jashtvorak Жыл бұрын
Everyone can say absolute bullshit with ease with a practice. Turek practice a lot to spew nonsense.
@mrsir6990
@mrsir6990 Жыл бұрын
@@john1425 vapid ? How so
@moldbrain660
@moldbrain660 2 ай бұрын
“If your god is just and kind, he will not care whether you worshipped him. If he is not just and kind, you should not wish to worship him.” -Epictetus
@82_KID
@82_KID 11 ай бұрын
I'm only about 4 minutes in and I love this debate! I love that they are having a civil discussion and not shouting over each other as well.
@vallor8322
@vallor8322 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent discussion. I'd never heard of it being referred as the "uncaused first cause" nor ever questioned why we should worship that. The answers were amazing and reaffirming. This is the sort of intelligent discussion that earns my subscription to a channel :)
@azukaoji32
@azukaoji32 Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Welcome Aboard! :)
@Finny_finn_finn
@Finny_finn_finn Жыл бұрын
I like how this was broken down. That kid needed a non confrontational interaction with someone who could rationally answer his questions
@ruthegan8524
@ruthegan8524 Жыл бұрын
It was good.
@creativesolution3
@creativesolution3 Жыл бұрын
There was nothing rational about the answer. This kid is much smarter then this man that bases his claims on the assumptions that god exist .
@Finny_finn_finn
@Finny_finn_finn Жыл бұрын
@@creativesolution3 i am sad for you. I hope that you find God soon
@creativesolution3
@creativesolution3 Жыл бұрын
I can say the same to you. I'm sad for you. I hope you'll find truth soon @@Finny_finn_finn
@newweirdorder4164
@newweirdorder4164 Жыл бұрын
I think, as a society, we label things too much. I am firm in my belief that we are all talking about the same thing.
@M5mejane_SomeoneNew
@M5mejane_SomeoneNew 9 ай бұрын
❤ That was beautiful! Thank you for posting this! It’s perfect! 😊
@martiedebeer1419
@martiedebeer1419 Жыл бұрын
Respect for the student asking questions. He is respectful and he is trying to find the truth.
@justineddy5306
@justineddy5306 Жыл бұрын
Its heartening to hear a thoughtful and friendly conversation on such a contentious issue.
@whatshedoing8993
@whatshedoing8993 Жыл бұрын
Finally a debate where both parties are respectful enough to speak and be heard. Without yelling over each other. Whether they agree or disagree. Also for the young man to agree with Frank’s reasoning bc it “made sense”.
@Shan-2024
@Shan-2024 24 күн бұрын
Wow as a Christian this was such a great video, both parties were polite and questions and answers were heard and respected, I have never heard a conversation like this before and this has definitely helped me be able to talk and discuss better with a specific family member who doesn't believe in God.
@Ceeelk_LoveJesus_
@Ceeelk_LoveJesus_ Жыл бұрын
That’s such a great inspiring discussion between two respectful human ! As a Christian I aspire to share the Gospel this way
@lifeisgood5794
@lifeisgood5794 Жыл бұрын
I am blown away at the wisdom and much respect to the young man asking the questions as well.
@kiralindholm2009
@kiralindholm2009 Жыл бұрын
What a polite and intelligent debate. This is what it should be like.❤😊
@krisamagus1
@krisamagus1 Жыл бұрын
a very often seen superficial comment. Not fantastic, adds nothing to the topic. Sorry, don't wanna be rude, it1s just annoying to say the least.I wanna read topic related comments, instead I read your comment over and over, almost word by word. I just wanna kill myself. Please do not take it personally... I do not know you, nut I would be interested why did you feel you need to copy maybe rephrase a little the 20 thousand comment before you? Just why? What's the resoning behind it? I can explain my comment, can you yours?
@leslienkwonia1075
@leslienkwonia1075 7 күн бұрын
Remain blessed for sharing this video 💙
@ImaITman
@ImaITman Жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment to give absolute unwavering applause for Carter. That young gentleman will grow in whatever he chooses to do in this life as his ability to understand the importance of debate & the nuisances of it debate is remarkable at his age. As a Christian I do pray he accepts God if he hasn't already!
@lkade7375
@lkade7375 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@fortealfredo8147
@fortealfredo8147 Жыл бұрын
God already has begin to reveal Himself unto Carter, and has made an impression upon his soul-live and now is one step closer to Messiah
@abongilezolanipeterson5588
@abongilezolanipeterson5588 Жыл бұрын
@ImalTman I tend to seperate debate and discussion. To me debate is what you do in court, where you try by all means to win the argument even if you know your guy is guilty. It's also the same when you join a school debate team. They make you pick a side and you have to stick to it no matter what, even if you don't even agree with that side. The atheist guy, by my personal definition, was not debating but was discussing. Debate = I'm right, you're wrong. Discuss = I am opposed to your viewpoint but let us go on a truth discovering journey together. So discussion is about getting to the truth and debate is about proving I am right and you are wrong. Many people, in my opinion, cannot seperate debate from discussion. This happens especially in romantic relationships. But it can happen in friendships, and even philosophical and religious conversations like this one. I'm glad to see that we actually got to watch a discussion as opposed to a debate.
@chinenyeezeanochiejane7556
@chinenyeezeanochiejane7556 Жыл бұрын
Amen 🙌
@boof0569sm
@boof0569sm Жыл бұрын
Amen. I agree 💯 he's a very bright and humble young man. I pray if he hasn't already I pray he finds God. 🙏
@harrys.3165
@harrys.3165 Жыл бұрын
What a great young man.I hope he travels the good path in life.I wish him well
@XxSonnyBlackzZ
@XxSonnyBlackzZ Жыл бұрын
He surely is
@KeithEasley-vc1mb
@KeithEasley-vc1mb Жыл бұрын
He surely isn’t if he doesn’t believ in God or jesus
@yeshuaislord6880
@yeshuaislord6880 Жыл бұрын
@@KeithEasley-vc1mb You don't say
@margotleenders4133
@margotleenders4133 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@YESHUAisMessiah
@YESHUAisMessiah Жыл бұрын
Wow😮 one of the most respectable and civil debates I've ever watched between an atheist and a christian. Much respect for both of them and I prayerfully hope this young man finds all the answers to his qstns in YESUAH. ❤💯🙏
@melissai4798
@melissai4798 15 күн бұрын
Let’s pray for this young man in particular.
@jambaril4892
@jambaril4892 Жыл бұрын
The best debate i have heard between a Theist and Atheist so far. So polite yet very enlightening. Respect to both! ❤
@bengeurden1272
@bengeurden1272 Жыл бұрын
The best debate between a theist and an atheist you have seen so far? Go watch some Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris or Daniel Dennett. They have had very high standing conversations, debates, speeches and discussions from like 2007 until 2023. It will open your eyes. Many people here could agree. :)
@acemxe8472
@acemxe8472 Жыл бұрын
@@bengeurden1272Strongly disagree. Just about every one of the atheists you listed rely almost entirely on rhetoric as opposed to posing an intellectual argument or engaging the arguments. Most of the better atheists are obscure.
@elvendarkness1
@elvendarkness1 Жыл бұрын
That was a very polite and respectful back and forth, no matter what side you side with… we need more of those type of discussions these days in every day life, from slavery, history, and gender. That was really refreshing to watch and listen to. Thank you for sharing.
@rustypistol8599
@rustypistol8599 Жыл бұрын
I really REALLY admire this respectful debate. This is exactly how we build and maintain a mutual respect to agree to disagree. It’s not about flipping out and getting combative or hitting below the belt. This isn’t common at all and I really enjoyed this back n forth. We’d have so many more constructive discussions and debates if we saw this more.
@edgedcombatives
@edgedcombatives 2 ай бұрын
This was the most civil debate in religion that i ever saw. Of only every disagreement of religion was this courteous, perhaps there would have been less war.
@ryanmac8829
@ryanmac8829 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Both sides were respectful to each other. I was baptised Catholic, never practiced really. I've recently found God again after many years of turmoil and strife. I met with a pastor last weekend and I'm really excited for my first time back in a church this weekend.
@Gankstomper
@Gankstomper Жыл бұрын
How about actually doing research and thinking critically instead of blindly believing? The sky fairy isn't real just because you were baptized. And you didn't "find god", you just decided you wanted to and you're fooling yourself. He's not real
@zoechihari6289
@zoechihari6289 Жыл бұрын
​@@Gankstomper😂😂😂😂shame
@justmyopinion7
@justmyopinion7 Жыл бұрын
@@Gankstomper Whether you want to believe that God exist or do not, it makes no difference to the very existence of God, it will only determine your end destination and where you will spend eternity. There are non-Biblical evidence of events described in the Bible that are irrefutable such as the flood, the Egyptians that drowned in the red sea, the existence of king David, certain tribes in the Bible that they never even thought existed, so whether you say God does not exist or does exist, makes no difference, but there are way more proof that God does exist than for the non-existence of God....
@Gankstomper
@Gankstomper Жыл бұрын
@@justmyopinion7 You have no clue what you're talking about. There's proof of the flood? No, you have it exactly backwards. We can prove the flood DIDN'T happen. Do you know what water does to soil, and other layers of the earth? The flood would have left permanent evidence everywhere in the world. Yet we can prove many many places have never had large amounts of water. Not to mention all the other problems with the story of Noah. I think anyone with even a middle school education should be able to identify certain things there that make no sense. Do you really believe a species can completely repopulate back from just 2 members? You'd have to know nothing about basic biology to believe that. I could go on about that story, I'm very pleased you used such an asinine example. The Bible containing some true things doesn't instantly validate everything in it. You don't get to say "oh this guy existed, these tribes existed, therefore the magical sky daddy does." The Spiderman comics contain real places in New York, does that prove Spiderman exists? You don't have any proof for your God. All you have is claims you can't back up, and arguments AGAINST your God you have no answer for, such as the problem of evil.
@MF_DOOM99
@MF_DOOM99 Жыл бұрын
So the God is man-made.
@xsky134
@xsky134 Жыл бұрын
This is so good!! I really hope my wife and her family will accept God's love invitation 😢 I really love them and don't want them to be separated with God forever
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Жыл бұрын
I will pray right now my brother! (And please everyone reading this - do the same ❤️). Have your way Jesus
@sillygoosethyme7609
@sillygoosethyme7609 Жыл бұрын
Just love her, unconditionally. That is enough. I'm saying this as an atheist son of a deeply Christian father, with an atheist mother and two atheist sisters. My father is often so blinded by his need for us to believe what he believes that he can't share in the love the rest of us freely express and he doesn't see just how wonderful a person my mother is (she literally heals people from 6am to 5pm, 5 days a week with a constant smile on her face, without any thought or need for the Christian God, Jesus Christ or everlasting life). My advice, as a son, would be to love your wife and your children/future children for who they are until you leave this world, rather than judging them on one part of who they are (their spiritual beliefs or lack thereof) till that day.
@paulaushofer9133
@paulaushofer9133 Жыл бұрын
​@SillyGooseThyme 1 John 4 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁷ Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. ⁸ He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. ⁹ In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. ¹⁰ Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. This is the ultimate love my dear friend. Eternity is a long time, we are only here for a short time. Your dad wouldn't be "loving" if he wouldn't warn you of hell. Flee to God.
@galinor7
@galinor7 Жыл бұрын
Is the invitation available also to kind and good parents whose children die in hospital in agony from brain cancer. Oh the love invitation of God!
@TheStandardBearer
@TheStandardBearer Жыл бұрын
In the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus, I stand with your prayer.
@brebrownie
@brebrownie 14 күн бұрын
Wow, he said, "okay, thank you." He just got a seed planted/watered. I bet he's gonna accept God one day and live a life for God. Amen!
@boywonder6659
@boywonder6659 Жыл бұрын
Frank is very good with his answers to very tough questions. Thank you for the video.
@JL-fg2vk
@JL-fg2vk Жыл бұрын
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@chuckdeuces911
@chuckdeuces911 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately his understanding of hell isn't biblical. Most people's understanding of hell isn't biblical. Hell is not eternal. Hell is not open right now for any human beings or life that was ever created on this earth. The only being confined to anywhere that could be considered hell is the heavenly hosts who disobeyed God's wishes. They are in a deep abyss. In the end times it says in revelation chapter 20 that the beast, the false prophet, and the serpent called Devil will go into the lake of fire for ever and ever. Everyone else will be judged and thrown in the lake but so will death and hell/hades. Not forever but it's the 2nd death. Not an eternal soul. The parable of Lazarus and the Richman is a parable, not literal. People don't realize that the OT has zero concept of an eternal lake of fire where people go in an after life. It's sheol which is an ambiguous word which seems like in some passages that it's speaking of a place where souls are living but it's a misunderstanding by modern Christianity. Even the NT and Jesus say death is like a sleep. We will all sleep until the day of judgment then at that time you will either die again or be taken to God. Thessalonians 4:13-17 which people use to justify pretrib rapture shows the dead will rise first, then the living will be taken as well. There's a lot of other proof verses but the point is he's wrong about hell.
@JL-fg2vk
@JL-fg2vk Жыл бұрын
@@chuckdeuces911 prove it. Any of it.
@jamesbrice6619
@jamesbrice6619 Жыл бұрын
@@chuckdeuces911 wrong.
@baraksinz
@baraksinz Жыл бұрын
@@chuckdeuces911 Lazarus and the rich man is NOT a parable. Parables are always specified as such in the scripture, and never are there specific names mentioned.
@D0csavage1
@D0csavage1 Жыл бұрын
Frank Turek nails it then nails it then nails it again. If I were there I'd get up and hug him for flooding my soul with a dose of reality.
@JL-fg2vk
@JL-fg2vk Жыл бұрын
Not a single sound argument in his answers, and an accumulation of bad evidence is more bad evidence, just as an accumulation of manure is still manure. All more evidence that faith is immoral and religion is evil.
@AV036
@AV036 Жыл бұрын
Want fast track to reality.😂 I fell for this clown 5 years ago! time to wake up. It's a rehearsed routine with all the angles covered. "S.U.R.G.E" is his totally made up Nasa aka sataN BS!! Frank Tourek is another agenda Lucy-fer spinning monkey. 1. Jesus created Earth fixed observably water level it cannot lie. 2. Satan invented an anti-centrifugal water whirled spinning clown ball.
@mikehannahs
@mikehannahs Жыл бұрын
This kid is very respectful and awesome for being so, he knows how to communicate
@mikehannahs
@mikehannahs Жыл бұрын
I agree 💯
@JennySimmons-yc5vj
@JennySimmons-yc5vj 4 ай бұрын
Love your commentaries in your videos, they help clarify all the theories being thrown out by Dr. Turek. Dr. Turek has great examples when he speaks! Amen!
@bigwrinklyboi9680
@bigwrinklyboi9680 Жыл бұрын
I see so much of myself in the guy asking questions. Hearing them answered in a logical and confident way helped a lot
@robinandersson99
@robinandersson99 Жыл бұрын
As an agnostic atheist, i have to admit that this is by far the most convincing arguments I have heard from a believer. The kid also did an amazing job with his questions.
@juliustaylor9920
@juliustaylor9920 Жыл бұрын
Im a Christian. Just curious but what made u want to watch this video? Even though u claim to be an atheist is there something in you that kinda makes u wanna know if there actually is a God?
@robinandersson99
@robinandersson99 Жыл бұрын
@@juliustaylor9920 Well, since I'm an agnostic atheist and not just an atheist, I don't really believe that its even possible to prove if god exist or not. The reason I watched the video was because I'm just generally interested in the topic and I'm always open to listening to everyone's point of view even if I disagree with it.
@juliustaylor9920
@juliustaylor9920 Жыл бұрын
@@robinandersson99 🤝🏽
@aspiknf
@aspiknf Жыл бұрын
@@robinandersson99 I think God exists, not the God of any religion, and I agree with Robin Andersson.
@DrShemp-sv6gf
@DrShemp-sv6gf Жыл бұрын
I don't believe I've heard of an agnostic atheist. I just assumed you could be one or the other, interesting
@malawisupasoldier7478
@malawisupasoldier7478 Жыл бұрын
I have to give that kid props for asking a good question in a respectful manner. Very respectful conversation
@gipsymelody1268
@gipsymelody1268 Жыл бұрын
yeah very rare thing but probably the dude was anti because by others experiences! i mean of course you can get bad experiences even in christian community... but in other fact the christianity itself a very well made stuff ;)
@chaschoune
@chaschoune Жыл бұрын
Yes, the questions were more intelligent than the responses.
@krisamagus1
@krisamagus1 Жыл бұрын
a very often seen superficial comment. Not fantastic, adds nothing to the topic. Sorry, don't wanna be rude, it1s just annoying to say the least.I wanna read topic related comments, instead I read your comment over and over, almost word by word. I just wanna kill myself. Please do not take it personally... I do not know you, nut I would be interested why did you feel you need to copy maybe rephrase a little the 20 thousand comment before you? Just why? What's the resoning behind it? I can explain my comment, can you yours?
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 4 ай бұрын
The young guy was cool being respectful and honest about his Atheistic views. I'm glad brother Frank Turek addresses Atheism and beliefs of other religions and worldviews on Cross Examined ministry. I was an atheist and agnostic from 17-19 years old until I discovered evidence of God's Existence and Christianity myself. Creation requires a Creator we human beings would call God. Atheists seem to think that God cares if we know that He exists or not obviously don't understand why the last book of The Bible is called Revelation because He finally reveals Himself to the whole world. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth (Yeshua H'Mashiac The Messiah in Hebrew) is The Son of The Living God came to save us from the Eternal consequences of our sins. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant
@roduLubienieckih
@roduLubienieckih 27 күн бұрын
Thanx for your work! Best wishes from Ukraine 🇺🇦
@OneMoreChaunce
@OneMoreChaunce Жыл бұрын
I didn’t search for this video but I’m glad I watched it all the way through. I have a whole new understanding about God and what a respectfully interaction between these two men🙏🏽
@Quintin-c7k
@Quintin-c7k Жыл бұрын
Me too
@roems6396
@roems6396 Жыл бұрын
Is 100% lying when saying that there is evidence against the universe being the un caused first cause. The universe itself can always be expanding and contracting. Heat isn’t disappearing in the universe. It is simply finite while the universe is currently expanding. “Space, time and matter had a beginning”. Yes….for THIS iteration of the universe. Each possible iteration has new time, space, and matter. This man is full of shit. There isn’t a shred of evidence that supports the existence of any god, and CERTAINLY not the Canaanite war god Yahweh, that eventually morphed into the nonsensical god of Christians.
@RobBeatdownBrown
@RobBeatdownBrown Жыл бұрын
MUCH respect to that young dude, who was asking very intelligent and legit questions as opposed to defaulting to ‘Well if God is so great, why do bad things happen?’ This was a very insightful conversation
@hectorino9351
@hectorino9351 10 ай бұрын
What an incredible exchange. The young man was brilliant! The answers were compelling, wise, and very easy to understand. I loved this debate. So, I'm subscribing to your channel, Mr. McGuire. Thank you for choosing to publish such healthy content. Keep up the excellent work.
@nothingbutstatic
@nothingbutstatic 4 ай бұрын
I found the answers scientifically ignorant and full of correlation/causation errors and leaps of faith.
@dwaynefitzpatrick7463
@dwaynefitzpatrick7463 Жыл бұрын
He's the most polite and respectful atheist I've ever seen. awesome conversation
@joeybboy3433
@joeybboy3433 Жыл бұрын
I'm not!
@stephaniewilson5284
@stephaniewilson5284 Жыл бұрын
Lots athiests are nice
@joeybboy3433
@joeybboy3433 Жыл бұрын
@@stephaniewilson5284 not me!
@DJPastaYaY
@DJPastaYaY 9 ай бұрын
Happy to be learning about God! 🙏🙏
@arod88
@arod88 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Props to the first guy for being humble and taking the answer given to examine it himself. He didn't try to "be right" but took Frank's answer and reflected on it.
@enochbaffour3153
@enochbaffour3153 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic discussion. Love the mutual respect between student and professor. Why can't discourse be like this in the mainstream
@richardjones4662
@richardjones4662 Жыл бұрын
Studend and "professor". Hmm, I'm take a wild guess and say you are an evangelist.
@texasshaolin83
@texasshaolin83 Жыл бұрын
Both sides are educated and respectful.
@miiguel3550
@miiguel3550 Жыл бұрын
The reason it is not mainstream is because we put shit in and we get shit out.
@rubensf7780
@rubensf7780 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s because people are anonymous on the internet
@alicomando1195
@alicomando1195 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Pbuh Wasn't Crucified Nor he died for our sins and He Never Told Us to Worship Him But Worship Only ALLAH (Only One GOD) بِسۡمِ ٱللَّهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيم Bismillah hir rahman nir raheem In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful. قُلۡ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ 112:1 Qul huwal laahu ahad Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, ٱللَّهُ ٱلصَّمَدُ 112:2 Allah hus-samad Allah, the Eternal Refuge. لَمۡ يَلِدۡ وَلَمۡ يُولَدۡ 112:3 Lam yalid wa lam yoolad He neither begets nor is born, وَلَمۡ يَكُن لَّهُۥ كُفُوًا أَحَدُۢ 112:4 Wa lam yakul-lahoo kufuwan ahad Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” ************ اللهم انا نعوذ بك من ان نشرك بك شيئا نعلمه ونستغفرك لما لا نعلمه O Allah, we seek refuge in You from associating partners with You while we know, and we ask Your forgiveness for what we do not know. ********* Dear people you have Warned ⚠️ in the Last Holy Book of Humanity (The Holy Book Quran) (5:72) And surely they disbelieved when they said: 'Christ, the son of Mary, is indeed God'; whereas Christ had said: 'Children of Israel! Serve Allah, Who is your Lord and my Lord.' Allah has forbidden Paradise to those who associate anything with Him in His divinity and their refuge shall be the Fire. (5:73) Those who said: 'Allah is one of the Three', certainly they disbelieved, for there is no god save the One God. And if they do not give up this claim, all who have disbelieved among them shall be subjected to painful chastisement. And for their saying, "We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of God." In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Indeed, those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. Certainly, they did not kill him. Rather, God raised him up to Himself. God is Mighty and Wise. -Quran 4:157-4:158 وَاِذۡ قَالَ اللّٰهُ يٰعِيۡسَى ابۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ ءَاَنۡتَ قُلۡتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُوۡنِىۡ وَاُمِّىَ اِلٰهَيۡنِ مِنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰهِ​ؕ قَالَ سُبۡحٰنَكَ مَا يَكُوۡنُ لِىۡۤ اَنۡ اَقُوۡلَ مَا لَـيۡسَ لِىۡ بِحَقٍّ​ؕ اِنۡ كُنۡتُ قُلۡتُهٗ فَقَدۡ عَلِمۡتَهٗ​ؕ تَعۡلَمُ مَا فِىۡ نَفۡسِىۡ وَلَاۤ اَعۡلَمُ مَا فِىۡ نَفۡسِكَ​ؕ اِنَّكَ اَنۡتَ عَلَّامُ الۡغُيُوۡبِ‏  (5:116) And imagine when thereafter Allah will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to people: "Take me and my mother for gods beside Allah?" and he will answer: "Glory to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right to. Had I said so, You would surely have known it. You know all what is within my mind whereas I do not know what is within Yours. You, indeed You, know fully all that is beyond the reach of human perception. مَا قُلۡتُ لَهُمۡ اِلَّا مَاۤ اَمَرۡتَنِىۡ بِهٖۤ اَنِ اعۡبُدُوا اللّٰهَ رَبِّىۡ وَرَبَّكُمۡ​ۚ وَكُنۡتُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ شَهِيۡدًا مَّا دُمۡتُ فِيۡهِمۡ​ۚ فَلَمَّا تَوَفَّيۡتَنِىۡ كُنۡتَ اَنۡتَ الرَّقِيۡبَ عَلَيۡهِمۡ​ؕ وَاَنۡتَ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ شَهِيۡدٌ‏ (5:117) I said to them nothing except what You commanded me, that is: 'Serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' I watched over them as long as I remained among them; and when You did recall me, then You Yourself became the Watcher over them. Indeed, You are Witness over everything. اِنۡ تُعَذِّبۡهُمۡ فَاِنَّهُمۡ عِبَادُكَ​ۚ وَاِنۡ تَغۡفِرۡ لَهُمۡ فَاِنَّكَ اَنۡتَ الۡعَزِيۡزُ الۡحَكِيۡمُ‏ (5:118) If You chastise them, they are Your servants; and if You forgive them, You are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise."' قَالَ اللّٰهُ هٰذَا يَوۡمُ يَـنۡفَعُ الصّٰدِقِيۡنَ صِدۡقُهُمۡ​ؕ لَهُمۡ جَنّٰتٌ تَجۡرِىۡ مِنۡ تَحۡتِهَا الۡاَنۡهٰرُ خٰلِدِيۡنَ فِيۡهَاۤ اَبَدًا​ ؕ رَضِىَ اللّٰهُ عَنۡهُمۡ وَرَضُوۡا عَنۡهُ​ ؕ ذٰ لِكَ الۡـفَوۡزُ الۡعَظِيۡمُ‏ (5:119) Thereupon Allah will say: 'This day truthfulness shall profit the truthful. For them are Gardens beneath which rivers flow. There they will abide for ever. Allah is well- pleased with them, and they well-pleased with Allah. That indeed is the mighty triumph.' لِلّٰهِ مُلۡكُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالۡاَرۡضِ وَمَا فِيۡهِنَّ​ ؕ وَهُوَ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ قَدِيۡرٌ (5:120) To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all that is in them and He has full power over everything. Qur’aan 3:59-62] 3:59 إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُۥ مِن تُرَابٍۢ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ Verily, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allaah is like the example of Adam - He created him from dust and then said to him ‘Be’ and he was. 3:60 ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُن مِّنَ ٱلْمُمْتَرِينَ This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be from those who doubt. 3:61 فَمَنْ حَآجَّكَ فِيهِ مِنۢ بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلْعِلْمِ فَقُلْ تَعَالَوْا۟ نَدْعُ أَبْنَآءَنَا وَأَبْنَآءَكُمْ وَنِسَآءَنَا وَنِسَآءَكُمْ وَأَنفُسَنَا وَأَنفُسَكُمْ ثُمَّ نَبْتَهِلْ فَنَجْعَل لَّعْنَتَ ٱللَّهِ عَلَى ٱلْكَـٰذِبِينَ So whoever disputes with you concerning him (i.e. Jesus) after all this knowledge (about him) has come to you, say: ‘Come, let us summon our children and your children, our women and your women and ourselves and yourselves and then invoke God to send His curses on those of us who is lying.’ 3:62 إِنَّ هَـٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْقَصَصُ ٱلْحَقُّ ۚ وَمَا مِنْ إِلَـٰهٍ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُ ۚ وَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَهُوَ ٱلْعَزِيزُ ٱلْحَكِيمُ Verily, this is the true story (about Jesus). And there is no God that has the right to be worshipped except Allaah. And indeed Allaah is the All-Mighty, All-Wise.” I Pray to GOD to Guide me and My Christian and Jewish People to The Right Path And Truth. ❤️ 💙 💜 Ameen *************** Holy Book Quran 2:47 يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اذْكُرُوا نِعْمَتِيَ الَّتِي أَنْعَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأَنِّي فَضَّلْتُكُمْ عَلَى الْعَالَمِينَ 2:47) O Children of Israel! Recall My favour which I bestowed upon you, exalting you above all nations. (2:48) Fear the Day when no one shall avail another, when no intercession will be accepted, when no one will be ransomed, and no criminal will receive any help. Holy book Quran 7:143 Prophet Musa (Moses) Pbuh When Moses came at the appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he asked, “My Lord! Reveal Yourself to me so I may see You.” Allah answered, “You cannot see Me! But look at the mountain. If it remains firm in its place, only then will you see Me.” When his Lord appeared to the mountain, He levelled it to dust and Moses collapsed unconscious. When he recovered, he cried, “Glory be to You! I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers.”
@mikethetraveler
@mikethetraveler Жыл бұрын
The quality of this dialogue is amazing! No screaming, just honest questions and responses
@ruthegan8524
@ruthegan8524 Жыл бұрын
Truly.
@itch4travel
@itch4travel Ай бұрын
Man created God in his image,
@keziarena
@keziarena 11 ай бұрын
just heard of frank turek today and have been binge-watching him. whenever he speaks i felt at peace.
@Believer1in3
@Believer1in3 8 ай бұрын
His books are outstanding!
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 5 ай бұрын
You might also enjoy the theological debates of Dr. William Lane Craig, against the most popular atheists.
@keziarena
@keziarena 5 ай бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 noted! ❤️
@maxmaxwell343
@maxmaxwell343 5 ай бұрын
Turek is as dishonest as every other apologist
@justingary5322
@justingary5322 4 ай бұрын
Ok cool. The young guy was cool being respectful and honest about his Atheistic views. I'm glad brother Frank Turek addresses Atheism and beliefs of other religions and worldviews on Cross Examined ministry. I was an atheist and agnostic from 17-19 years old until I discovered evidence of God's Existence and Christianity myself. Creation requires a Creator we human beings would call God. Atheists seem to think that God cares if we know that He exists or not obviously don't understand why the last book of The Bible is called Revelation because He finally reveals Himself to the whole world. Jesus The Christ of Nazareth (Yeshua H'Mashiac The Messiah in Hebrew) is The Son of The Living God came to save us from the Eternal consequences of our sins. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@imamidevz9245
@imamidevz9245 Жыл бұрын
Great debate! I just love how the young man asked and presents his argument. He's very logical. But Frank...I was touched...I was super moved. I love how he presented his responses. Very eloquent and direct. He leads us to realizing that God really exists! Thank you Frank.
@rodcortez4834
@rodcortez4834 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vids! Frank Turek perfectly communicate the Gospel through his patience and answers. Hopefully, that young man's eyes was opened. Hallelujah YHWH 🙏😇🥰
@yoshisaidit7250
@yoshisaidit7250 Жыл бұрын
Turek is a fraud
@Catgamer141
@Catgamer141 2 ай бұрын
This is a real question by the way as one of the big reasons I abandoned my faith was my concern over God's "goodness".
@ktod1375
@ktod1375 Жыл бұрын
The thing I love the most about this video is that they are actually having a debate. They are respecting each other and letting each other speak before the other one does. They aren't interrupting or calling each other names.
@aboagyedanquah8119
@aboagyedanquah8119 Жыл бұрын
This is the definition of "Gentleman"... Glad I watched this.... God bless us all and reveal himself to us daily... Amen 🙏
@Gankstomper
@Gankstomper Жыл бұрын
Reveal himself daily? He hasn't revealed himself a single time lmao. He's not real
@Mika-dw7gl
@Mika-dw7gl Жыл бұрын
@@Gankstomper far less "gentleman" than the exemple of the video, should watch again ;)
@m118lr
@m118lr Жыл бұрын
…Amen.
@Lacey_Butterflies
@Lacey_Butterflies Жыл бұрын
I am so completely blessed by this gentleman's response. What a perfect answer. And I am also extremely proud of the young man asking the questions. He was very polite and respectful, and if you look really close at his face in the end, you can see the light that suddenly came on. Hallelujah! Glory to God! 🙌 ✝️ 🙏
@Dealwithit515
@Dealwithit515 Жыл бұрын
He actually looked slightly disappointed in Turek's response at the end. No one who ends a conversation with "I see" is agreeing with the other side of the conversation.
@thrillofbytes127
@thrillofbytes127 Жыл бұрын
I can follow his dissapointment, the step from the creation of the universe to being in the presence of God in afterlife if you love him, is a giant leap. The metaphor with a guy chasing a girl, I don't see the relationship with the way God would handle the situation. How does Turek know this? It insinuates that God is communicating with humans. If he ever did, what part of the message would get lost in translation? If God exists, he can perfectly determine who will be in his presence, why wouldn't he give everyone another chance in afterlife (if there is an afterlife at all). If following Jesus and God is such a good way of living, then the ones that did not, could be forgiven and by the grace of God receive the enlightenment in the afterlife. I would like to see people use their loving powers for all other people here and now, not talk about us believers and them non-believers/other religions. God's existence does not depend on your prayers, if I follow the logic of Turek, he was there from the beginning anyway. It also does not matter how you call God or which religion you practice. I never heard of any proof that God finds Christianity the best way to worship him. Humanism could be his preferred way of practicing life and love. We just don't know and that is alright.
@Lacey_Butterflies
@Lacey_Butterflies Жыл бұрын
@@thrillofbytes127 "To one with faith, no explanation is necessary. To one with NO faith, no explanation is possible." 😉
@thrillofbytes127
@thrillofbytes127 Жыл бұрын
@@Lacey_Butterflies 🤣
@raydolph8776
@raydolph8776 Жыл бұрын
@@Dealwithit515I don’t think atheists go to these discussions looking to be saved, agree, or have their minds changed. The answer of “hell is an absence of god” is very general. The athiest could have come back with “what is hell beyond the general interpretation of the absence of god”. Is it a lake of fire? Is it eternal physical pain and suffering? People who live on this earth in the absence of god are not in eternal pain and suffering.
@ELIEARRIESGADO
@ELIEARRIESGADO 13 күн бұрын
Love that explaination of Dr Turek
@joelasmussen5787
@joelasmussen5787 Жыл бұрын
Small world - I was a cofounder of the Reasonable Faith chapter at UT Dallas that originally brought Frank in to do several of these sessions years back. In fact, my former roommate and good friend to this day was also a founder, he's the guy in the yellow tie managing the mic. Just happened to stumble on this clip tonight and it really brought me back. Thanks for posting, will definitely check out some of your other content.
@ssenatorjeoffreys6393
@ssenatorjeoffreys6393 Жыл бұрын
When you sometimes lose hope in life and this video shows up,with words of wisdom and knowledge that is simply understandable......everyone who pass this video may God continue to bless you Abundantly Amen.
@kdynomyt
@kdynomyt 10 ай бұрын
This one really moved me. Praise God 🤲🏽. I pray we all choose God’s love.
@joeleniola9140
@joeleniola9140 7 ай бұрын
If God exist, he does not love us
@Ann_Levi
@Ann_Levi Жыл бұрын
That part where you spoke from the heart was very much inspired! So pure and full of grace and truth! Thank you!
@candiloxmyth2603
@candiloxmyth2603 11 ай бұрын
If the church could foster this kind of conversation with curious unbelievers, unbelievers and atheist will have such a different opinion of the body of Christ. Amazing conversation ❤
@CelsoBanda
@CelsoBanda 3 ай бұрын
No we wouldn't cause he never answered any question with facts but with faith and faith itself is not facts just because your faith makes you think it's facts. If instead of this young man it was someone in the same league as Neil Degrasse Tyson he would of been fact checked and ridiculed
@alexmorgan3435
@alexmorgan3435 3 ай бұрын
An atheist believes that religion of what ever flavour is BS whether it's Christ or any other deity. There are almost 3000 of them to chose from. I prefer logic, reasoning and critical thinking. I am an atheist and not a sheep. The God Squad always seem to think that the burden of proof is on atheists to prove there isn't a god. Well I have news for you. You believe in fairy tales, a big man in the sky looking over us, YOU prove it. You believe in it, you provide the evidence. But you never can so turn it around to non believers to prove there is no god. Classic passive aggressive behaviour.
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