Can They Breathe Underwater In FFX? (Analysis & Discussion)

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Dansg08

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@Dansg08
@Dansg08 6 жыл бұрын
After seeing more comments about this topic I was compelled to make a video to try and put the explanation of the issue beyond any reasonable doubt (a futile effort on the internet but this was a fun one to make :P). It also gives me a chance to try out the new "Premiere" feature on KZbin, hence the ambiguous nature of the title/description ;) --- If you love Final Fantasy please come hang out on our 24/7 livestream! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJK7lmqCgZqJjbc ---- To see what else you can watch on the channel because there is a LOT, goo.gl/4wgnSb
@Penguinz13989
@Penguinz13989 6 жыл бұрын
dansg08 you should make an in depth video about the history of the development of the game at square
@Jessefancolly
@Jessefancolly 4 жыл бұрын
2 years late lol, for fun I have my own theory. Our air has like 20 percent oxygen, what if spira has a content of say 50-60 percent? Sin fixed pollution 1000 years ago nature thrived.
@rebeccachambers4701
@rebeccachambers4701 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was through the novella that they pretty much established that summoners manipulate reality so magic monsters the piriflies everything is basically being manipulated by the summoner so essentially the power flies with machina are being manipulated by the machina. And so they're able to breathe
@markhill8150
@markhill8150 4 жыл бұрын
In the remaster, after you arrive on besaid beach at the start, Letty states that the best blitzers can hold there breath for hours. I think you need to talk to him more than once to get this line.
@Gil-X47Lapua
@Gil-X47Lapua 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you saved me 19 minutes.
@clearspira
@clearspira 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the end of this video where he goes over that using Yuna, didn't you?
@Gil-X47Lapua
@Gil-X47Lapua Жыл бұрын
@@clearspira He probably didn't have to watch the video because already knew the answer.
@kingenfuuken
@kingenfuuken Жыл бұрын
its in the original too
@MennydorgesERArchive
@MennydorgesERArchive 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, the humans in this game can cast magic and have endurance feats way above real humans, surviving underwater, regardless of pyreflies doesn’t seem that impossible
@lukehart7225
@lukehart7225 2 жыл бұрын
Even Final Fantasy VII has beyond human abilities
@Primitive01
@Primitive01 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukehart7225 All FF games have beyond human abilities..
@lukehart7225
@lukehart7225 2 жыл бұрын
@@Primitive01 didn’t think about it too much 😂 you’re right..
@anonnnn719
@anonnnn719 6 жыл бұрын
I know they're not the most popular or most up to date content, but you make me want to start my own final fantasy channel!!
@SunflowerSpotlight
@SunflowerSpotlight 5 жыл бұрын
With FFX just now on Switch, there will be an influx of new people playing. It was my first video game beyond, like, StarFox64. 😅 My awesome brother got it for me for my birthday, and a switch to play it on. I’ve got a lot of great memories of playing with him. I became chronically ill at 11 and sometimes couldn’t sleep because of the pain. We’d play. It was great distraction, and we bonded a lot in a common goal. People who are deeply invested will always find their way back one way or another. Do it if you want to, and maybe it’ll be your thing, or you’ll move on to other stuff. I’m probably going to have a channel about chronic conditions, for both people suffering and for family members who want to understand but don’t know how to talk to their family members about it. If you have something to contribute to the platform, out of your love for it, why not? I wish you the best of luck with it!
@LegaiaFan
@LegaiaFan 4 жыл бұрын
Being able to throw a ball under water is more unbelievable than anything else in FFX.
@pamelaglickman1216
@pamelaglickman1216 Жыл бұрын
True! I'm impressed their bodies aren't crushed by the weight of the water, LOL.
@blastortoise
@blastortoise Жыл бұрын
I think it's more impressive if we want to be REALLY pedantic that said ball is covered in razor sharp spikes and is electrified while also carrying a zombie plague and being hard enough to change flesh into stone and shatter it in the same impact.
@jacobteague635
@jacobteague635 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore these conversations, especially when it comes to the best game in existence. Never stop creating Final Fantasy X videos please, Berk. :)
@Matthew_Klepadlo
@Matthew_Klepadlo 5 жыл бұрын
I’m really interested in the bio-structural mechanics of the Jecht shot. Indeed it’s sublimely magnificent, as always!
@JohnGlasscock
@JohnGlasscock 6 жыл бұрын
The best explanation is it's a fantasy world where a lot of real world physics simply do not apply. Which seems to be extremely common in final fantasy games. Ever seen the fight between Sephiroth and Cloud in Advent Children? Yeah, try explaining all that. Lol That's just one example though. Great video and commentary as always
@Zade2188
@Zade2188 5 жыл бұрын
The why for that is has been explained but the reason that people can breath underwater hasn't so you have two side how think there right and will not back down
@Floridamangaming729
@Floridamangaming729 3 жыл бұрын
Well i mean sephiroth is a god. And cloud was also modified by hojo to be a superhuman soldier. thats why they are able to so the things they do.
@fernandacappucci8412
@fernandacappucci8412 3 жыл бұрын
I freaking love how people take a game called Final FANTASY which involves aeons and etcetera, and then go crazy because some characters breathe underwater and start applying real world science............ you guys are genius, keep it up
@mrskye08
@mrskye08 3 жыл бұрын
If the fight between cloud and sephiroth is crazy enough, then try explaining the "fear" of sephiroth casting meteor, yet he casually uses supernova to destroy the entire solar system 😂😂😂
@Boyzby
@Boyzby 2 жыл бұрын
I think even in a fantasy world, inhaling water in your lungs will lead to drowning.
@Archeris
@Archeris 6 жыл бұрын
I am someone who as a kid also thought, why can they hold their breath so long under neath the water. But then I saw Evangelion and there their lungs also get filled with a substance. This has been taken from the real life phenomenon called Liquid Breathing as you also mentioned in this video. What I think is that the water in Spira might just hold a lot more oxygen then the water here on earth. Because it’s another world on itself. So that was my explanation. Not sure about holding the whole breath thing. That kinda throws my theory out of the window :P
@SBaby
@SBaby 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that people in Spira just evolved gills over time since so much of their world is water. We just don't see them. My theory is that they're probably on their backs, somewhere under their shoulder blades.
@StarMonkey34
@StarMonkey34 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t really care but I like the FFX videos you make so here I am 😅😂🤷🏽‍♀️
@graey24601
@graey24601 2 жыл бұрын
Two points I would add: 1: If the players were holding their breath to play blitzball, they'd have to be able to easily hold it for a lot longer than five minutes. Why? Because the whole purpose of blitz is to take peoples' minds off the fact that they might die at any time and so there's no way the sport would have the players riding the knife edge of drowning at the end of every match. This makes the "holding their breath" thing even more insane because it's not five min, it'd be more like ten or so for a safety margin. 2: More than once we see people get knocked unconscious while under water. It doesn't matter what sort of training you've done when you lose consciousness your autonomic functions resume, this includes breathing. This one, more than anything else puts the whole "holding their breath" thing to bed.
@kirkthejust6654
@kirkthejust6654 4 жыл бұрын
And you gotta consider the first mission with Rikku when they activated the sunken airship too.
@SunflowerSpotlight
@SunflowerSpotlight 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I had my PS2 hooked up to a little tv back in the day. I NEVER realized the sphere wasn’t entirely surrounded by glass, filling it. Goodness gracious me. 😂 Every day’s a school day!
@clearspira
@clearspira 2 жыл бұрын
Remember what happens when Brother and Rikku meets Tidus for the first time? They do not know that he is a Blitzball player yet. So why would they draft him into their salvage mission? It only makes sense if they knew that he would be capable of holding his breath for that long.
@BoBaskoro
@BoBaskoro 2 жыл бұрын
at 16:24 he mentions it's the only time you hear someone talk under water. I do remember when Tidus is thrown into the prison underwater and in a cutscene I think I remember him speaking underwater lol! I thiiiiink?
@danielvalentino3675
@danielvalentino3675 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Love this video. I never bothered wondering why, but I think it goes beyond just pyrflies, because not everyone can stay underwater for long periods of time, just wakka/rikku/tidus. Lulu/Aron/kimari/Yuna don't or can't. Soo I agree pyreflies are a portion of it, but also the person.
@noldocelu3326
@noldocelu3326 2 жыл бұрын
In the eternal calm video, we see Yuna training at holding her breath, she can hold it for 2 min 41 sec. There's also the underwater snogging.
@DrakeVagabond
@DrakeVagabond 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't it explained at the start of the game when Brother fives Tidus a mouthpiece?
@LeNoir679
@LeNoir679 6 жыл бұрын
I think you're right about pyreflies. Al Bhed seem to have breathalyzer type things though.
@infiniteaaron
@infiniteaaron 2 жыл бұрын
Real Blitzball would be so cool to see!
@yasualleonandabunchofnumbers
@yasualleonandabunchofnumbers 6 жыл бұрын
This is literally a Game Theory! They take topics like this, do real-world research on it and the extremes, either proving something is possible or how it's not even in the most extreme cases. Who cares if it's a fantasy game, it's fun to think about! I quite enjoyed watching this even if I couldn't make it to the chat at the time. :)
@andersson9333
@andersson9333 2 жыл бұрын
What about the scene when tidus falls into the water from the stone bridge when the first boss comes he goes up to catch his breath and look for a way to swim Out?? That makes no sense what he would gasp for air
@killxtech1302
@killxtech1302 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Via Purifico, I figure the danger was less the water, and more the swarms of friends that most people arent capable enough at underwater combat to fight them off while searching for an exit, even ignoring Zombie Evrae.
@Incsub12
@Incsub12 6 жыл бұрын
Word up dansg, here’s to hoping it’s just a video of you recreating the infamous awkward laughing scene between tidus and yuna on a loop for like 10 hours straight. I’d watch it, as long as you play both tidus, and yuna.............
@Dansg08
@Dansg08 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, that's.... An interesting proposition :P
@PhantasticTruth
@PhantasticTruth 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think that this detail may be a key factor that's related to the plot and understanding spira and Tidus' story. I believe that the lack of explanation of spira's physics is deliberate. What if spira is just another dream?
@VanStolin
@VanStolin 5 жыл бұрын
I know it's been a while since this video, but this also explains why the Fiends appeared at the game. Fiends are naturally attracted to the concentration of sphere water. It almost makes me wonder if people don't understand how the Blitz stadium works, they just know that it does. Similar to what Cid said about the Airship and how he doesn't know how it flies or even how to really work the Sphere-osilo finder. Pretty cool.
@fluttersshy3436
@fluttersshy3436 4 жыл бұрын
0:42 - Agreed. Whenever someone questions topics like this it's just "because video games".
@SuzuStarlight
@SuzuStarlight 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add a detail to the whole "but Blitzball is just 5 minutes per halftime" thing: a halftime would take even more time for the players than just 5 minutes. The 5 minutes are just the active play time. We also have to consider that the players have to get inside the pool and to their places before the halftime starts and out of the pool for the break between halftimes. I'm pretty sure that those factors alone could stretch the time spent under water per halftime to 10 minutes in the worst cases. I think that adds even more credibility to the concept of how pyreflies influence their ability to hold their breath, because we're getting way closer to the human limit with those times.
@Tidus3350
@Tidus3350 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, could you do one about the farplane aswell?
@Dansg08
@Dansg08 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe
@benja0502
@benja0502 4 жыл бұрын
While I don't necessarily disagree with the logic behind pyreflies and basically all the arguments made in the video, personally, I would almost rather just have it left unexplained. When I played through the game I never questioned it, I was just like “in Spira holding your breath underwater is just a thing”. I mean, its a fantasy world, real world physics don't necessarily have to play a role in a fantastic world like Spira. When I saw Al Bhed had spiral pupils, I didn't consider the genetic evolution behind it, I was just like “oh cool they have spiral pupils” and many other things about the world. That's one part of worldbuilding in general I really like, when not everything is 100% set in stone with logic and rules, but there are phenomena that just... happen. And as long as it's consistent with the rest of the world, a logical explanation shouldnt be required Great points in the video though Burke, there was a surprising amount of effort considering the topic of the video, so good on you!
@DREAMSQU33ZE
@DREAMSQU33ZE 6 жыл бұрын
Awww I missed this. Busy weekends.
@jermainezinnerman7450
@jermainezinnerman7450 6 жыл бұрын
❤👋🍋
@stopthelawsuits
@stopthelawsuits 5 жыл бұрын
If it doesn't make sense it has a simple answer. Pyreflies
@nowitssovivid1273
@nowitssovivid1273 6 жыл бұрын
Hah it's so true that the pyreflies react with water. Heck, the summoning of Zanarkand itself is like this giant water bubble of the fayths' memories. Fun video, though. Maybe it was a silly topic, but I got a kick out of it anyhow. 😂
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 5 жыл бұрын
Nevermind the fact that Yuna literally walks on water in Killika, and Tidus remains unconscious with his face under water long enough to drift from the highwind excavation all the way to Besaid. Yup, realism.
@n3w2d3str0y0u
@n3w2d3str0y0u 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought the water in the Pool was different from the regular water, maybe that's the case. But it's a game, who gives a f.
@MyJourneyConcludes
@MyJourneyConcludes 6 жыл бұрын
nah you also see them swim underwater for long periods at various moments during the game outside of the blitzball arena.
@Matthew_Klepadlo
@Matthew_Klepadlo 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna make an hour long video on “The physics behind Blitzball!!!” And I wanna say “See, there’s this really cool xxassholexx, Dansg08. He really knows his xxshitxx about FFX.”
@blackjacktrial
@blackjacktrial 3 жыл бұрын
My recommendations for blitzball are all messed up thanks to Burke and Jomboy. It's a lottery if blitzball is underwater or in an alley these days.
@hunterhollingsworth9058
@hunterhollingsworth9058 2 жыл бұрын
There are some NPCs in the game who will make statements that relate to this, one person warns Tidus not to exhaust himself before the tournament, because if he goes in while exhausted, he might drown. So no, they cannot technically breathe underwater. i love the connection between the pyreflies infused water and the kilika sending scene. its a great way to understand things like how she can walk on the water. she probably has learned how to manipulate them when she was an apprentice summoner.
@jamesbritt5353
@jamesbritt5353 2 жыл бұрын
There's actually a tribe in South East Asia that have a rare genetic adaptation that's similar to aquatic mammals that allows them to dive for 7-12 mins under water and fish off of one breath.
@redzerg
@redzerg 6 жыл бұрын
you are one of the best KZbinr ever 💛
@NaveedAmar98
@NaveedAmar98 6 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say what's up Burke. Not sure what to expect from this topic but hey I like FFX and your videos so I'm looking forward to watching this. I'm always learning new and interesting things about this game that I have played a couple of times before.
@OiranTayuu
@OiranTayuu 2 жыл бұрын
When you talk to Keepa on the beach when you first reach Besaid, he says, “We’re always top dogs for the first few minutes of the game, ya? Then we start to run out of breath. That’s when they get us. But Cap’n Wakka, man, he don’t stop! No halftime breath for him, ya? He just keeps going!” Datto says, “You being a blitzball player’s probably what saved you out there. The best players-they can hold their breath, like, forever! I wish I could do that.” Letty says, “It true that the best players can even sleep underwater? Man, that’s like…superhuman, you know?” No one mentions pyreflies.
@wegogiant
@wegogiant 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, Burke. Have you ever considered speed running FFX? I know it’s not for everyone, but I just started doing speed runs of it and so far I’m having a lot of fun.
@Dansg08
@Dansg08 6 жыл бұрын
I have, but never gave it a serious attempt. It seems so perfectly strategized and worked out already that I'm not sure it will be that interesting. But maybe someday
@rayoflight1920
@rayoflight1920 6 ай бұрын
It's just holding breath underwater, if you talked to the Aurochs after meeting them for the first time they say they're only good the first few minutes of the match because they can't hold their breath for too long unlike Wakka, one says he's good at handling the ball but his weakness lies in his inability to hold his breath, another says that some blitzers can even sleep underwater and for him those are superhumans, in Besaid a guy says he wanted to be a blitzball player but he gave up because he can't hold his breath
@haselni
@haselni 2 жыл бұрын
So many thoughts on this: Underwater rugby is a thing! Check it out some time. Real impressive what people can do, though of course it's not 5 minutes. Nobody talks about FFX characters being able to see underwater with their bare eyes without any issues. Nobody talks about their extremely baggy parachute clothing or how holding the ball does not impact their swimming technique and speed. Water in general is super special in FFX. Tidus' iconic weapon is made of it, and his name is very close to "tide". Especially in Dansg's pronunciation. xD
@crisedx
@crisedx 6 жыл бұрын
This is either about Tidus' name as someone said... or the only other topic of debate (I could come uip on short notice) what is the actual name of Yojimbo's dog? There is the iconic laugh scene too, but pretty sure he has already got a video on that... Edit: maybe not, if the ultimania translations are involved it is unlikely to be one of those, since you shouldn't need to go to those to address either.
@lontrus
@lontrus 6 жыл бұрын
Wasnt the dog's name Daigoro ?
@crisedx
@crisedx 6 жыл бұрын
@@lontrus People are in two camps about that... afaik it hasn't been definitively confirmed anywhere. However, if we assume that the attack name refers to the dog (I forgot, so not sure, but the attack name might have an exclamation mark after it, making it an order) then yes his name is Daigoro. The fact that in X-2 Yuna's trainer pet is named Kogoro is also a likely reference to this (in Japanese the prefixes dai and ko can refer to size when talking about animals, big and small respectively e.g. "neko" is a cat "koneko" is a kitten). Those are basically the arguments for his name being Daigoro, however, it is not explicitly stated anywhere. If you dig through the game data in X the dog is internally called komainu, however, that is not a name either (or it is, but it refers to the style of dog he is based on, so its more like a breed... komainu is the name of the statues seen in Shinto shrines in Japan).
@Eenkin
@Eenkin 6 жыл бұрын
World of Final Fantasy calls one of the dogs in the Yojimbo fight as Daigoro in the Maxima update. However, Yojimbo also has a second dog in that fight named Gamut which wasn't in X.
@crisedx
@crisedx 6 жыл бұрын
Eenkin True, that to me might basically just be Square-Enix accepting the popular answer though. There has also been figures released where the dog has been referred as Daigoro. The problem some people have with stuff like this is it has never been confirmed in a way directly tied to FFX (or by the original developers). Having said all that I am still in the camp who is happy just to refer to the dog as Daigoro since that's the best name we have ever had for him.
@thesamuraihobbit
@thesamuraihobbit 3 жыл бұрын
Tidus and Yuna kissed underwater. I mean full-blown makingout, tongue wrestling. That requires breathing.
@LucasBumcel
@LucasBumcel 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot also that minutes in blitzball are 30 seconds in real-time. So 5 minutes in blutzball is 2 minutes 30 seconds
@alarsenal10
@alarsenal10 6 жыл бұрын
The title of this video is really, really accurate
@Dreday-dp1jp
@Dreday-dp1jp 6 жыл бұрын
Wait are there are pyerflies in tids' zandarkand then?
@I0oxxo0I
@I0oxxo0I 3 жыл бұрын
question is : why does tidus grasps for air after he falls off the bridge in the water , just before rikku encounter :D
@Troisnyx
@Troisnyx 2 жыл бұрын
The same way your lungs would need to adjust after breathing in a PFC. A rat gasps for air after coming out of a PFC, a liquid INTENDED to allow it to breathe underwater, because physics. You've just been physics'd, mate.
@berentook
@berentook 6 жыл бұрын
People do know that FFX is a video game right??
@gildedbear5355
@gildedbear5355 2 жыл бұрын
super late to the party, but posting none-the-less. I agree that pyreflies could contribute, but it's also worth considering that the humans of Spira are "human" but don't have to be humans that are identical to us. There are many types of mammals that have extremely long dive times (to great depths). They do this with, as one might expect, adaptions that we simply don't have. Generally they have more myoglobin (a protein that store oxygn like hemoglobin but in the muscle instead of the blood) and store less air in their lungs. It's possible that plays a part as well, with the humans being able to increase the myoglobin in their bodies to seal-like levels. Of course, that doesn't explain the ronsos so perhaps the increased myoglobin is an effect of pyreflies 8) Honestly, it's a world with magic. It's not hard to think that the magic might have something to do with the things that differentiate that world from ours.
@jermainezinnerman7450
@jermainezinnerman7450 6 жыл бұрын
Earlier in the game. After Wakka pushes Tidus in the water and that cutscene when you're done with that area. When Wakka comes up behind Tidus to ask him to play blitz for the Auroch's. You can hear Wakka laugh underwater. That's the other part I know of 😀
@Coreisus
@Coreisus 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Wait!!! What if those blue orbs in the spherepool, that seemingly float in a grid at different elevations, are the pyreflies!? And they're helping to both maintain the shape and put oxygen or whatever else into ther liquid?
@MrMcCoyD4
@MrMcCoyD4 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to LA “lung cleanses” with PFCs
@jbac5767
@jbac5767 2 жыл бұрын
Man the music from this game is incredible. Holy fuck
@Qazqi
@Qazqi 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I love the research!
@xheralt
@xheralt 3 жыл бұрын
One important distinction to remember that while magic and pyreflies are both omnipresent in Spira _they are not identical._ I will say therefore that pyreflies are not the reason that certain people can breathe underwater, *magic is what provides that specific effect.* I also think it limitless, on that account. *But pyreflies **_are also involved,_** and have to be;* we know that pyreflies can both permeate into and coalesce to form solid bodies. But where additional solidity of body would be _extremely_ necessary would be in situations like the deep dive, where Tidus, Rikku, Brother, et. al., uncovered and reactivated the Celsius. No ordinary human body could stand the crushing pressures of the deep unassisted, but a pyrefly-reinforced body? Absolutely! This same phenomenon may be also how one's 'hit points' increase. Underwater breathing is an Al Bhed trait that seems to be passed on from parent to child, so there is a genetic component. Half Al Bhed Yuna appears to have lost the genetic coin toss. I would say that ancient Al Bhed (maybe in the days of the machina cities) analyzed and determined what gave rise to their ability to breathe underwater, and devised a treatment for other Spirans (human, Guado, etc.); this treatment is expensive, time-consuming, and probably uncomfortable, which is why only teams or occasional Free Agents are able to obtain it.
@rayoflight1920
@rayoflight1920 6 ай бұрын
In Mobius' event with ffx when Tidus was feeling down Wol tells him it's okay to feel sad and that 'when you're done u can float back up from the depth', and Tidus' reply to him 'you might think twice before giving that kind of advice, remember I'm a blitzball player, If I want to I can stay underwater for a looong time' Wol then answers 'do it if you want to, we'll wait until you come back up for air' If mobius is canon then people in ffx need air after a while from being under water, Yuna and Tidus' famous scene was under water and it looked like they both stayed without air for more than 5 minutes. Apparently Square isn't consistent about how ffx characters could stay submerged for a long time
@XaW84
@XaW84 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, but it still leaves the question of why Tidus never had seen or heard of pyreflies before coming to Spira. I mean, he played in Zanarkand inside the blitzball arena there. And being a pro player he would know the ins and outs of the game there, including how he is able to breathe under water for so long. Unless the aeons forgot/chose not to include pyreflies in the dream?
@XaW84
@XaW84 6 жыл бұрын
Otacon464 Yes, but he would have heard of them before. Any athlete of a high level knows about the finer aspects of their sport, even if the details of it is obscure. The same goes for other things, like summoners. Like Yunalesca they excists, but Tidus cannot even pronounce Summoner when he first hears of them in Spira.
@brahms0624
@brahms0624 10 ай бұрын
At the beginning of the game the Al Bhed give Tidus a breathing apparatus before they dive. At least I believe it is. Like a mouthpiece. Tidus doesn't even ask about I, so he knows what it is. Does anyone talk about that?
@mg3929
@mg3929 2 жыл бұрын
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@daheadsmiter2052
@daheadsmiter2052 4 жыл бұрын
Lucid dreamers can hold their breathes forever as well. Maybe spira is a dream realm as well. o/
@traverspixelman9801
@traverspixelman9801 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought that everyone that could swim underwater and breath the water were Al Bhed, and kinda had gills like that one dude from water world.
@_bach97
@_bach97 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Burke I don’t know if you notice this but my favorite song in the game movement in green is just a more happy version of to zanarkand or maybe I’m a bit late. 😎
@pyrefly7575
@pyrefly7575 6 жыл бұрын
That is super obvious isnot video - worthy
@pippofranco879
@pippofranco879 6 жыл бұрын
Berk
@Dansg08
@Dansg08 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of songs in the game are based off To Zanarkand, it's one of those special pieces of music that can be molded into a bunch of different moods :)
@Dansg08
@Dansg08 6 жыл бұрын
@@pippofranco879 Hi
@_bach97
@_bach97 6 жыл бұрын
Pippo Franco gotcha
@KompassBKeys
@KompassBKeys 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to add, that we do not know to much about the different races. Obviously Ronsos are quite slow and strong under water while Guados seem to be quite fast and Al Bhed become better in everything. Luca, Kilika and Besaid are also very close to the water (ok as nearly all cities in Spira ...) - so I assume many of the inhabitants are fishermen (as can be seen in Besaid and Kilika) so they probably have to be good swimmers for their normal work. Nevertheless: We do not know how long a "normal" Ronso is able to hold breath without any training. But we do know, that every race tends to behave different under water. Btw: Are Yuna/Tidus etc ever mentioned to be "human"? And even if - well its fantasy ^^ But: Thanks for all the resarch - great analysis for a ffx topic as always!
@HaqiKusanagi
@HaqiKusanagi 3 жыл бұрын
Yuna is human. Tidus isn't. He's just a dream of the Fayth. All Al-bhed seemed magnificent underwater, too. Yuna, being half Al-bhed, eventually master that underwater technique in "Eternal Calm".
@middle_pickup
@middle_pickup 2 жыл бұрын
How big is a blitz arena? The size of a tennis court? The size of a football field? Considering the fact that the blitz sphere is, yes, a sphere in shape, this means that the volume of water pressing down on your body would be equal to half the size of the court when at center of the sphere. It would be completely ridiculous to expect normal human physiology to allow for this kind of performance even with the most rigorous of training. It's magic, guys.
@Dreday-dp1jp
@Dreday-dp1jp 6 жыл бұрын
You make great points because I've never known rikku to train but she can hold her breath 4 ever
@Dreday-dp1jp
@Dreday-dp1jp 6 жыл бұрын
@Otacon464 I didn't think of that
@watchraventhehostage5938
@watchraventhehostage5938 2 жыл бұрын
Back when this game first came out, my buddy turned to me & said, "No way human beings can hold their breath & swim that long." I turned & replied,"You think this is Earth? You think that's Earth water? You think those are Earth people? Go throw & kick a ball underwater & see how far it goes. Be glad you're on Spira, where Blitzball isn't stupid."
@travis1984ify
@travis1984ify 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the best proof of them actually breathing underwear, versus holding their breath is when Tidus washes up on Besaid at the beginning of the game. He's face down in the water, UNCONSCIOUS. When you're unconscious, it is physically impossible to hold your breath. Therefore, he is breathing in the water.
@janicethompson8565
@janicethompson8565 6 жыл бұрын
That was a surprise! Had no idea what it would be about. Fun content!!! I’d damn near be willing to watch a FFX video about shoelaces if you threw one out here. 😂
@kblade08
@kblade08 2 жыл бұрын
Asking the real questions here. One of the biggest mysteries in the whole franchise for me tbh.
@elizabethbecker1024
@elizabethbecker1024 2 жыл бұрын
In the beginning of the game rikku gives tidus a breathing device when she tells him he needs to work to stay on the boat. I thought this was explicit and never thought twice about it just assuming tidus wakka and rikku had a device along with the blitzball players. I think this video is overthinking it. If it was just the pyreflies more characters other than those three would be able to fight underwater. They are the only characters that can fight underwater because of the breathing device!
@AubreyTheKing
@AubreyTheKing 6 жыл бұрын
I never did question how they can hold their breaths under water. Even back then when I first played this game as a kid. Firstly, I don't care about Blitzball. Never did. And secondly, like what dansg08 mentioned: "Its FINAL FANTASY!" There's A LOT of wired shit happening! Out of all the bizarre things in FFX, the one that people question the most is people breathing under water? Fuck that. During the section where the group has to go through the Thunder Plains to reach the next area, we (the players) have to dodge lighting bolts along the way. We reach a Inn, and inside we see Mister Mika. What I wanna know is, how the living hell did this old man dodge a hundred lighting bolts!?! ...okay, maybe its not that questionable, BUT STILL! Me and my friends would ALWAYS question that lol but who cares! like I said, Its "Final Fantasy," anything goes. Great video dansg08!
@sumwhiteguy1273
@sumwhiteguy1273 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this convinced me to purchase this game again so I can relive this master piece. Such an amazing game. And I fucking loveddddddd Blitzball. Couldn't wait till I could recruite all the good players. 😌
@cfworthy
@cfworthy 3 жыл бұрын
"Indeed, the increase in oxygen flux with exercise could be as high as 100-fold higher than resting values in the contracting skeletal muscle." - Radak Z. Chung HY. Goto S. Systemic adaptation to oxidative challenge induced by regular exercise. Free Radic Biol Med. 2008
@jefferyosborne9342
@jefferyosborne9342 9 ай бұрын
I am 100% on the training bandwagon here. My "proof" is when Yuna gets kidnapped by the al bhed, ONLY waka and Tidus go down and rescue her, while she is incapsulated in a spehere of air, also no other chars are shown in water unless they play blitz
@ShaggyShagz13
@ShaggyShagz13 2 жыл бұрын
No amount of training prevents you from drowning while unconscious and underwater. Has to be some kind of magic.
@SeLeBoCreations
@SeLeBoCreations 6 жыл бұрын
I'm all here for this!
@bearzerkr1177
@bearzerkr1177 5 жыл бұрын
I think that a good reason would be, that the reason that certain people can play Blitzball and others can’t is because they are born with the ability to breath under water. Would be a reason why there is only a few people who actually play Blitzball not everyone. I think that might be the reason or lore based explaination
@kentchamberlain5720
@kentchamberlain5720 2 жыл бұрын
There are pearl divers in Indonesia who can hold their breath for up to fifteen minutes while swimming deep underwater for pearls. I always figured that was the explanation.
@Penguinz13989
@Penguinz13989 6 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait
@KHmixerX
@KHmixerX 6 жыл бұрын
Get hyped!
@afoninja121
@afoninja121 2 жыл бұрын
My head cannon is that the people of Spira have evolved to become half fish people and are able to breathe underwater for extended periods of time.
@Mattev2309
@Mattev2309 6 жыл бұрын
Do you guys think we will ever get a 10-3?
@GAMEOVERttp
@GAMEOVERttp 2 жыл бұрын
Agree and disagree..... can we remember this a game with a giant flying whales and tiger like humans. Who's to say the 'humans in this game cant breath longer underwater? It's a game. However you cant ignore the evidence in the game. And YES Pyoflies make them breath under water, It pretty much explained in the ultimatamian. The reason people are refusing to believe this is because, a few characters in the game including Yuna make reference to training themselves to breath underwater. And there is no other explanation in the game how they breath underwater other then this. So you cant blame peoples attitude and logic on this. Yes training is required to breath underwater, but it's not training of the lungs, its training of the pyoflies within ones body. If people want to argue you cant control pyoflies I'd argue against that. This is why spira has unsent, as well as unsent that can control the aging of thier bodies by manipulating the Pyoflies. Also a persons emotions can control the person's pyoflies which makes them stay attached to the world after they have died - in the form of fiends. Remember the ultimaianian says there is a evident connection between plyoflies and water, the body is 60% water and we see the most Plyoflies come from bodies in this game. Having agreed with Plyoflies theory, I do totally disagree with the blitz ball stadium shapes theory. Wakka tells you its technology that does this as certain technologies are allowed and not allowed by the temple. You ain't changing my mind about that part and that's just total head canon until someone shows me proof or evidence that suggests this. Water may be linked to plyoflies but it doesnt have a mind of it's own and no machine in the whole game is seen manipulating the plyoflies. If that was true then maybe it would be possible for machines to do the sending or control fiends.
@boredbuffysummershuh
@boredbuffysummershuh 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's something you can learn. Al bhed might be better at it. Yuna attempts to learn to hold her breath underwater in the eternal calm so she can't automatically...but she doesn't die when she's under water in Macalania. The pyreflie theory makes sense since that water had them. The al bhed have a lot of "weird" genetic differences. In X-2 Yuna has a long ponytail in the back with hair out the bottom. I looked it up and it says that al bhed hair grows faster than normal so...who knows?
@Sirkento
@Sirkento 6 жыл бұрын
@dansg08 The entire contents of the Spira Academy of physics exhaustive encyclopedia is as follows: Yes.
@nekogod
@nekogod 2 жыл бұрын
I vote for training over pyreflies or a combination of the 2 as it's made clear at several points that Rikku, Wakka and Tidus are the only ones in the group who can do it. If it was pure pyreflies then they'd all be able to do it.
@Troisnyx
@Troisnyx 2 жыл бұрын
Again, I give you Final Fantasy X-2. Not everyone is seen underwater on regular intervals in the replacement blitz team. Paine hasn't had any training.
@sciverzero8197
@sciverzero8197 2 жыл бұрын
I question why anyone would compare spirans to humans in general... its pretty clear the average spiran is well beyond the level of fitness of an average human, and their peak physical condition is being able to cleave through armored tanks with what is probably a pretty blunt sword. I don't discount the pyreflies at all. But also Yuna states in different versions of X-2 that in her literal _one year of training_ she can now hold her breath for between 2'41" to over 4' depending on the amount of blitzball you play and what version you're playing. Yuna is a novice player, who trains in the sea. I mean, its relatively easy to see spirans shrugging off or doing things that even peak human athletes literally could not accomplish, and that's not involving water or pyreflies at all. Cutting through metal with brute force. Throwing _people_ seemingly without effort. Jumping huge distances (even Lulu does this). The simple fact is, spirans are better than humans in every way. They may still die a lot, but that isn't because they're our equals, its because they're dealing with things orders of magnitude more dangerous than anything we could ever encounter. I mean, lets be fair here... these ARE a people who can _accidentally or intentionally fail to die and effectively become immortal as a result instead of dying._ They could also turn into normal fiends... but this seems to be more on their strength of personality than anything else. Eastern ghost lore type stuff. Also, consider the opening of X, where Tidus and Rikku do a whole survey and a skirmish with a giant octopus, without ever taking a breath. Even if you assume these were really brief, that's still a lot of activity.
@andreasmith6248
@andreasmith6248 5 жыл бұрын
“A giant freaking space whale 🐳 ” 🤣🤣🤣
@tylerwright2615
@tylerwright2615 5 жыл бұрын
Just found u the other day thanks for the helpful info through ffx
@gnulen
@gnulen 5 жыл бұрын
nevermind the breathing , how are they throwing a ball under water with no resistance ?
@kinsan89
@kinsan89 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously it's coated in the same oil as a goose's feathers
@Iminbrawl
@Iminbrawl 2 жыл бұрын
I've only played through the game once and dropped ffx-2 pretty quickly. Did Dream Zanarkand know about pyreflies? I forget if that's something Tidus "learned" in Spira or not.
@emmaknightley
@emmaknightley 6 жыл бұрын
Trying to seriously listen to your reasoning but the music is way too relaxing....haha. Can't for the life of me remember which location the music was from, someone help???
@Justin-ym5ce
@Justin-ym5ce 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not saying any guess is wrong I just don’t get why only certain ppl can swim and others cannot, that part doesn’t make sense to me
@jer2dabear
@jer2dabear 6 жыл бұрын
The way tidus' name is pronounced is my guess as to what this video is about. Seems like a silly topic for a video. So it fits:)
@Dansg08
@Dansg08 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe. Maybe not :P
@Vemonus92
@Vemonus92 2 жыл бұрын
I always had that damn question ever since I played this game but then again it's a game
@NevesThaMenace
@NevesThaMenace 2 жыл бұрын
I'm aware this video is 3 years old. But idk if anyone said anything about the short vids in between X and X2. Eternal Calm. She's counting the seconds holding her breath. Puts the entire theory to sleep.
@_bach97
@_bach97 6 жыл бұрын
Whenever it’s a ffx video I like. 😎
@วิชชากรสุขวัฒน์
@วิชชากรสุขวัฒน์ 6 жыл бұрын
and they can fight piranhas in the water (In Gameplay Tidus Wakka Rikku can be forever in the water area as u want lol)
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