Dark Souls Lore - The Nameless King

Dark Souls Lore - The Nameless King / Gwyn's First Born
For the duration of this video, I'll be assuming that the Nameless King IS Gwyn's First Born, just for the sake of brevity and clarity. Whilst it is extremely likely, it's still not outright confirmed. I just wanted to mention that, because there are times when I say stuff like "We know X is Y" etc.
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[@Arcangel2992]

Everyone before DS3: "it's Solaire!" FromSoft in DS3: "lol nope, fuuuuuck that"

[@SilverMont]

I figured that, if it was anyone, it was Andre, haha.

[@deevee5327]

Many people considered Andre. After all, he loved his arms (just as Nameless King did) and he managed to survive up to DS3, which also makes you think... XD

[@Arcangel2992]

+Silver Mont Andre was a good prediction too, he resembles Gwyn a lot.

[@ViperJoe]

Well, Andre _was_ originally meant to be Gwyn's Firstborn -- which explains his character design, among other things -- but the idea was scrapped and Miyazaki stated that the Firstborn does not make an appearance in the final version of Dark Souls 1 (I guess he wasn't lying). Solaire was a massive red herring, though.

[@slightlytwistedagain]

I'm sure Andre was meant to be a descendant, not the first born. It points more to Astora being a city of deities, which also explains why the Astora armor is called the Elite Armor, Elite as in the gods and their children being elites.

[@Infernalicon]

the reason the nameless king was forgotten was because he infused his weapon with lightning and went into PvP...

[@SilverMont]

Lightning used to be the bee's knees, he's just not kept up to date on the meta

[@justnoob8141]

Infernalicon ...what?

[@konghammer6061]

Silver Mont, I recently started using his sword spear, surprisingly good for pvp, most people who invade me don't seem to have faced it much because I almost always catch them with the weapon skill.

[@Raven-fr3ki]

@@konghammer6061 sword spear isn’t common in pvp because statistically other lightning weapons perform better, using weapons that don’t have the highest numbers is never a bad idea, bc the meta weapons always kill fast but chances are you can elude them with your unique move set

[@konghammer6061]

@@Raven-fr3ki I've noticed that. With the game being out for so long now I've found that using unique weapons over the meta really messes with people. That back step upward spear slice gets them every time.lol

[@sirsiruin6882]

An interesting but very subtle hint that the firstborn is ally to the Dragons is the fact that in Dark Souls 1 his shrine is protected by the Hellkite Drake. Of course, we couldn't have known that before DkS3

[@brendanjoyce645]

The dragon before the undead parish the one you get the drake sword from his tail?

[@matthewlucas4142]

Mind. Blown.

[@nayyarrashid4661]

@@brendanjoyce645 it is a drake not a dragon... But for a drake he is incredibly powerful still

[@ryansc0tt0]

@@nayyarrashid4661 Aren't drakes, dragons, and wyverns all related? Archdragon Peak is after all protected by wyverns. The Old Dragonslayer is guarded by a drake in DS2.

[@s8theninjawarrior916]

@@nayyarrashid4661 irrelevant since Nameless king's pet is a drake

[@bluemagician9724]

I guess you could say he engaged in.... JOLLY COOPERATION with the dragon!

[@ericjrthered4365]

BUN YOODER oh my

[@sirbig8292]

tl;dl: The Nameless King could have saved everyone but he was too busy banging dragon girls.

[@blackcat3467]

lmao

[@SilverMont]

Maybe.

[@chung2795]

Nameless King is Donkey confirmed

[@themultigamer840]

Absolute Chad

[@ballthatbounces626]

@@chung2795 4 years later and I can confirm this is canon.

[@trey5wop199]

UNDER THE CLOTH HIS TRUE FACE IS REVEALED PINWHEEL

[@somerandomguy29]

Pinwheel came back for revenge? :o

[@MetalKabu]

this made me laugh harder than it should have.

[@nathanieljernigan1147]

Fuck, that means that under the mask... Is another mask!

[@spasmodicgamerzn1221]

AND UNDER THOSE MASKS , CEASLESS DISCHARGE , COVETOUS DEMON AND PROWLING MAGUS

[@thecorniestlemur7969]

If they do bring back Pinwheel in the Ringed City, they should make him like Orphan of Kos levels of hard.

[@tokugamer9930]

My theory was that when his son Faraam betrayed him, he wented to "tie" his next children with him at least by name, so he started to name them with "Gwyn" on beginning of names

[@bergonath8851]

Fucking Solaire... sniff...

[@ureicul6237]

solaire... I miss you.

[@wanderingbufoon]

gwynaire

[@ViceVersaLogic]

The Ram part of Faraam could be taken from Indian culture. Look for Rama, warrior prince who was exiled...

[@hectorvalverde5044]

genius

[@thecrazedcacaconsumer3483]

👌

[@armanon9225]

Rama is butter :D

[@Jellyfishmadness]

Armanon Anrak Haha :D

[@Kyuno97]

it could also come from farang as it is refering to a "white" fugitive from the western lands in thailand. That could be a connection to the white meaning of gwyn. Like the nameless king (faraam?) is the fugitive of the white of white referenced from the "white" guy (gwyn)

[@TotallyToonsTV]

I think the mystery behind The Nameless King is genius. He was there the whole time and only those who paid attention knew of his existence and fought him.

[@ingonyama70]

I don't think Nameless is something as clear-cut as a hero or a villain, at least until he Hollows like his Daddums. As a war god, the Firstborn only had respect for arms and battlefield prowess -- something the dragons had in spades, if you look at Gough's dialogue. A 20-to-1 kill ratio is pretty amazing no matter how bad you are at math. So a betrayal makes sense from that perspective alone. And yet, this interpretation of him clashes strongly with the Warriors of Sunlight, benevolent comrades-in-arms who place "jolly co-operation!" above all else. They're the original Sunbros. Even if Solaire's quest for "his own sun" is a search for power, he greets you, a comparatively weak Undead at the time of your first meeting, with friendliness and respect. The Sunbros are a Covenant of nice guys (not to be confused with "Nice Guys" who whine about friendzoning). So, let's see what happens when we combine these disparate ideologies. You have a guy who both a) respects strength and prowess, and b) founds and watches over a "band of brothers" style covenant of protectors and heroic champions. Obviously loyalty is extremely important to him. Let's flash back to the Dragon Wars, and Gwyn's companions at the time. He's buds with Nito, First of the Dead, and the flame-happy Witch of Izalith, both of whom use "underhanded" tactics -- poisoning the dragons once Gwyn's shocked their scales off, and burning down their homes, the Archtrees, presumably in an attempt to demoralize them. Such tactics, which have less to do with combat prowess and more to do with dirty fighting, might have left a bad taste in the Firstborn's mouth. The last straw, however, would have come from Gwyn's third ally, the recipient of a piece of his Lord Soul: Seath the Scaleless. A weak, malformed, twisted dragon sorcerer who betrays his kind and uses sorcery to compensate for the fact tht he can't fight his own kind "fairly". Such a creature would be the absolute antithesis of everything the Firstborn stands for, even before he went crazy and started doing mad magi-science in a castle that's too small for him. The Firstborn's already smarting from Gwyn relying on Nito and Izalith's tactics, and now we have this traitor to his kind, who relies on methods that have nothing to do with being any kind of good at fighting. If i were the Firstborn, that would have definitely pushed me over the edge. I'd want to fight on the side of the conflict that aligned more closely with my morals, no matter what I had to give up. And given what we know from the "Sacred Oath" miracle, it talks about an heir of Sunlight, his faithful First Knight, and the loyal dragonslayer who served them both. Now that we've assume the Firstborn had a beef with Seath -- not to mention the fact that we find him in Archdragon Peak -- we can pretty much peg Dragonslayer Ornstein as the first knight, and Havel the Rock as that loyal dragonslayer. Truly a trinity not to be messed with -- at least until Gwyn decided to mess around with the Curse of the Darksign. This might even have been the trio that kicked off the rebellion against the Gods, though that's even further into speculation than this. Just my own take on the mythology, but I feel it makes a good deal of sense.

[@thecrazedcacaconsumer3483]

Curt Clark this

[@randomcarbonaccumulation6478]

This makes me wonder why the key to Archdragon Peak - the "Path of the Dragon"-Gesture - is found after Oceiros' boss room, who emulates Seath and everything the Nameless King supposedly despises.

[@belland_dog8235]

@@randomcarbonaccumulation6478 Well, NK doesn't despise the Dragons, just Seath. But Oceiros would not have known that it was just seath he hated., as the NK has his name struck from history and all (or almost all) records of him destroyed as well. Oceiros, probably just wanting anything related to the Dragons before he went mad, probably saw the likeness of all the stuff in that room behind his boss room and thought "Hey, looks kinda draconic" and starting researching or whatever he does. It probably had nothing to do with Seath, just other dragons, but Oceiros wouldn't know any better, how could he?. That's my theory anyway.

[@kuronishiro7239]

@@belland_dog8235 I don't think so because if you look closely where we fought Oceiros there are lot's of stone that are engraved so we could imagine that it may be someone who wanted that all this knowledge about dragons doesn't disappear and moreover we can find a pattern on the ground just before the Oceiros' room that we can also find at the dragon peak. So it's clear that the Nameless King has something to do with the Lothric kingdom. Btw sorry for my mistakes english isn't my mother tongue

[@s8theninjawarrior916]

Its not 20-1, its 3 scores, 1 score is 20, so its 60-1 even more impressive

[@Seinglede]

In regards to Yorshka there's an easy way to reconcile her and Gwyndolin being siblings despite him being Gwyn's last-born. They could always share a mother, just not a father. If Yorshka was the result of Gwyn's wife having an affair of some sort with a dragon she would both be Gwyndolins younger sister even though Gwyndolin is Gwyn's youngest child. This would also give the Nameless King motive to betray Gwyn and join the dragons. If he decided to side with his mother that could easily be the the foolish act that lead to his removal from history.

[@lilypad395]

Good observation, I haven't heard anything like this before and it would explain a lot of things.

[@Titanic_Tuna]

to add this theory, The mother could have been Velka who happens to be referenced as one of the deities from the time. It would certainly add much motive as to why Nameless would have tuned his back on Gwyn.

[@Seinglede]

Titanic Tuna I almost put that in my original comment as well, but decided to keep it to a single point. This would also explain Gwyndolin and the Darkmoon Blades connection with Velka and, if Yorshka and Priscilla are in fact the same person as I believe they are, would explain Priscilla and the Painted World's connection to Velka as well. It could also explain why Velka is considered a rogue deity. If we consider all the dark souls games part of a recurring cycle, as they are, the recurring theme in Dark Souls 2 of the queen of the kingdom tempting the king into letting the age of dark come to pass could be meant to be harking back to the events preceding Dark Souls 1. If Velka realized the Age of Fire's end was inevitable then it's not strange that she would "betray" Gwyn. I even wonder if Velka was always called Velka. Thinking about it now maybe her true name is in fact Ariamis. Priscilla herself says that the Painted World is a kind place. Maybe her mother, Velka/Ariamis, made it to protect her from being killed by Gwyn. That could have even been the inciting incident that lead to her siding with humans against the gods, to get back at Gwyn for trying to hurt her children.

[@Titanic_Tuna]

I just thought that Velka would be the perfect character who fits the missing piece of your theory. I just hope we get to have more mention of Velka in the upcoming DLC. Hopefully a bossfight if we're lucky.

[@T19681]

Oh what if velka has a kid with Gwyn, Gwyndoline, and then velka has a bastard with Seathe, Prescilla.

[@Solid_Seth]

I remember seeing an interesting theory regarding Priscilla being the daughter of the Nameless King. Since Priscilla has an ability that is practically the bane of the gods, you would think that Gwyn would of had her killed on the spot. So why was she just banished into the Painted World instead of being killed? And here's what the theory believed. Despite her being an "abomination", if she truly is the daughter of the Nameless King then that makes her the grand-daughter of Gwyn. Now its not uncommon for parents to have a hostile relationship with their children, as seems to be the case with Gwyn and the Nameless King. However, parents tend to have a soft spot with their grandchildren. It's rare that you hear of a volatile relationship between a parent and their grandchild. So despite his anger towards his son and despite Priscilla being a threat to the gods, maybe he just couldn't bring himself to have her killed because she is his grandchild and she didn't choose to be involved in any of this. So since he couldn't keep her around because of the threat she posed, but didn't want to kill her, he chose to have her banished.

[@UNOwen-nn6ui]

o.O .....damn...... that actually sounds rly good👍

[@justnoob8141]

Solid Seth Seath is her father and Nameless King is male not female

[@justingridley371]

Just Noob there was never any sold proof seath was Priscillas father

[@justnoob8141]

Justin Gridley Priscilla has crystal mark on her face and she has fluffy tail while Seath has crystal trait and scaleless tail and Stormdrake trait isn't crystal wyvern but fire bird wyvern and Ancient Dragon unique trait is that their body cover in stone which she doesn't had and Nameless King will give her a incredible height and nothing else let see...... possible father... 1.Seath(experiment or with some woman) 2.Nameless King(make her motherless) 3.Ancient Dragon(extremely unlikely) 4.Stormdrake(very unlikely)

[@justingridley371]

Just Noob in have played all them and know that it is still highly likely but no sold proof

[@KenjiAsakura09]

No, no, no. Giant Dad is the First Born

[@elignationsva5895]

Solaire is the Lord of Sunlight, GiantDad is his first-born, and Priscilla is the Faithful Knight who 'served them both'.

[@azrael8924]

+Eli Nations (DaPotatoOfDoom) U wot m8?

[@danielmhfu]

bull you wouldnt want her to be your knight putting her in danger how could you risk that fluffy tail

[@emma-rz7mf]

no gwyn is GIANT DAD's first born

[@bloodraptor]

THE LEGEND WILL NEVER DIE

[@chaoticspark2639]

my friend asked "me why is the nameless king boss fight so hard?" i said "he is the god of mother fucking war!!"

[@somerandomguy29]

When my brother asked me what was so hard about the nameless king i handed him my controller

[@chaoticspark2639]

XD

[@takezokimura2571]

The Firstborn is like a hollow in appearance, somewhat resembling Gwyn´s face after he linked the fire. As you said it could be that the bell not just summoned him but brought him back from the dead. But I don´t think he linked the fire and I find it hard to believe he wants an age of dragons. Great Lighting Spear says that he had respect only for arms and nothing else. There would be less challengers in the age of dragons and since he fought dragons during many years it is safe to assume he once considered them his hardest enemies. But after dozens of dragons it starts to get easier and the battles would lose their luster. He would seek new challenges. What bigger challenge than an undead that never gives up and always try new strategies? I think that he sees the dragons as battle comrades, beings strong enough for him to consider them friends.Remember what Gough said? For every dragon killed they lost three knights. So in the Firstborn´s eyes dragons are superior to the Gods´s army even though the Gods emerged as the winners.

[@kevindahlke6042]

Just a correction, Gough said they lost three-score Knights for every dragon, or sixty.

[@m3t4lmancer]

I love the drawing of Solaire in the thumbnail/beginning.

[@FootprintsForTwoTravel]

Solaire is the Stig from Top Gear

[@SilverMont]

He's really good at driving cars?

[@UrbanCohort]

I think the Nameless King is an unsung hero. Solaire was part of his order, after all, anyone who commands Solaire's respect has mine :o

[@Wolfharth]

think. patches uses a spear, nameless king uses a spear. nameless kings deific status was lost, probably meaning his hair, patches is bald, it all makes sense. patches is the firstborn god of war

[@SilverMont]

what

[@Wolfharth]

it makes perfect sense though, patches uses the twin dragon greatshield which has dragons on it, and the nameless king joined the dragons, i cant believe nobody has thought of this FLAWLESS logic obv.

[@itsl3489]

Further this would explain why Patches hates Clerics

[@demonicclips7180]

also why patches is still alive even in the ringed city. he lives on forever.

[@samaelrevenger6818]

He is immortal, god of war in disguise.

[@gadbenezer9329]

Adorable thumbnail with Ornstein eating the cape of nameless king

[@algirdassalomskas9050]

i just love the dramatic and gritty lore visualisations ! 16:22

[@TheGinnerMatty]

I always like to think of how the old gods would react to the current events in the games world. Like if Gwyn (if he was still alive) or the Nameless King knew what happened to Gwyndolin, how fucked would Eldritch be? xD

[@fatdragon6484]

My theory : He was called Faraam ( God Of War ) , he was also in heavy dragonslayer armor at the time of when he was hunting dragons , but he released the armor when he allied with them , the armor was the one that you fought at lothric castle which is now controlled by the pilgrim butterflies , he trained ornstein back then to become a dragonslayer and that is why they fight in similar ways .

[@reigoj8228]

Soo I checked quite a few languages and got one hit for name Faraam: In galician language, it means "Doesn't exist" Been a while Alex.

[@b0mbard371]

look at the cute ornstein chewing on the cape makes me want to hug the little guy

[@salmaanwalker3242]

I believe his name is sen. In the first game sens fortress is said to be an old proving ground built by the gods to test Those who wish to enter anor londo. It would make sense that a god of war would test warriors strength before letting them enter his kingdom. Also there's tha fact that man serpents are found in sens fortress just like in archdragon peak. Also sen kinda rhymes with gwyn which kind of goes with the theme of gwyns children having similar names to him.

[@dumbtweacz2150]

Kool Kid youre so stupid

[@kormorgen637]

Not to mention the snake men appear both there and in dragon's aerie. Dark souls 1 the snake men were in sens fortress Dark souls 3 they appear where the Nameless king makes his new home.

[@andryuu_2000]

'Sen's fortress' is a wrong translation of 'fortress of the thousand traps' This theory of Gwyn's firstborn being named Sen is dumb. If 'his name was lost' since the first game, and anything related to him being destroyed, how could there be a fortress named after him?

[@SilverMont]

It could always be one of those cases where it was mixed up in game, too. Like, "speak, friend, and enter" being "say friend, and enter"

[@chupakabra1129]

Sen doesn't rhyme with Gwyn

[@HM4Hill]

7:14 hate when that happens

[@bungiecrimes7247]

I do love when time itself reserves to give you a second chance for that big F

[@AlecEburhard]

other possible names: --Gwynmab or Mabgwyn (Gwyn's son or son of Gwyn) -MacGwyn (same) -Gwynson (same) -Arwyn, from the Welsh intensifying prefix "ar" and gwyn meaning "white, fair". -Gwynaneurin, -neurin, originally spelled Neirin, which possibly means "noble". -Gwynarwel, meaning unknown ;) -Gwyncadfael, cadfael means "battle prince" from Welsh cad "battle" and mael "prince". Gwynfael or Gwynmael also works. -Caerwyn, derived from the Welsh elements caer "fortress" and gwyn "white, fair". -Gwynwgan, from gwogawn "glory, honour" -Gwynalader, from gwaladr "leader" -Cledwyn, from the Welsh element caled "rough" combined with gwyn "white, fair, blessed". -Gwynemyr, emyr = king -Gwynfor, from the Welsh element gwyn meaning "white, fair, blessed" combined with mawr meaning "great, large". -Gwynudd, -udd or -id = "lord, prince"

[@souptime450]

What about Gwynigg

[@AshnSilvercorp]

20:23 unless it's the chaos blade!

[@rastaking9547]

what if the nameless king had a child with Pricilla and had yorshka and gwyn was disgusted with him the first born breeding with a halfbreed so he exiled him

[@banababreab4382]

rasta king Damn. That actually makes more sense than so many theories I've read

[@DerpxGames]

rasta king They slay dragons around those parts of towns so being a dragon rider is off the market

[@danielantony1882]

rasta king Why does Yorshka call Gwyndolin Brother then?

[@Ajehy]

Daniel Antony; Sometimes, a child who was born in unusual/unfortunate circumstances would be not only raised, but adopted by their grandparents. Teen pregnancy? If the grandma was willing and young enough to make it believable, it could avoid a scandal. (See Dr. Who ep. “The Empty Child” for a variant on this). Mom’s an imprisoned abomination crossbreed, dad’s a runaway traitor? Sounds like someone who could really use the protection a “legitimate” parentage would offer. Of course, who offered this protection? Gwyn, as a doting or at least begrudgingly accepting grandfather? Gwynn’s wife or consort? Or perhaps Gwyndolin himself raised Yorshka, and told her he was her elder brother. Hey, better “your dad was the sun god who died for us all” than either “your dad’s an exiled traitor.” And why not “I’m your father”? Gwyndolin already showed that he has self-esteem issues. Born deformed, forced into a gender role he wasn’t comfortable with... he hid behind an illusion of Gwynevere instead of ruling outright. He wouldn’t see himself as any more palatable a father than the Nameless King. But that’s just my take.

[@wezzy9437]

I think his name would be Gwynsen because of Sen's fortress, which may have a connection to him because of the snake-men there and at Archdragon peak.

[@andryuu_2000]

It doesn't make sense

[@originalfinalslasher]

That actually makes a lot of sense

[@1SWINZ1]

I have a theory - in Dark Souls 1, Ornstein is an illusion, but Smough isn't. You are told in DSIII that Smough was the last guy left guarding Anor Londo, and that Ornstein had left to seek the Nameless King. Doesn't this explain why Smough smashes Ornstein's body when you defeat him? It's because he knows it's an illusion! Whereas Smough's body is treated with care, if it is him that you defeat first. So, I think - and this is just my opinion - that the Chosen Undead killing Smough is cannon. Smough was the last one left because Gwynevere, Ornstein and Gwyndolin were all illusions. And we now know that Gwynevere left for Lothric, and probably Gwyndolin and Ornstein went with her(she left with a ''great many deities'', right?). Gwyndolin then returned to Anor Londo only to be devoured by Aldrich. Just a theory! I think that it makes a lot of sense with the DSIII item descriptions.

[@giantotter319]

I mean...it explains the Old Dragonslayer.

[@hal6368]

SwinnyUK in darksouls lore gwyn has said given ornstein a part of his lord soul maybe ornstein used the power of the part of the lord soul as an almost real illusions

[@VenomtheOne]

except for one detail: when you kill fake Ornstein last, he drops his soul (ethereal material) and his ring (psychical material). how can an illusion possess both if it's something that doesn't physically exist?

[@SilverMont]

+VenomtheOne I've mentioned this before in another video - it's possible that the soul and ring were used to create the illusion, that it's born from those​ two things that would have a strong memory of Ornstein

[@Dat_Scrub]

SwinnyUK but if ornstein is slain he drops his soul an illusion can't have a soul however considering the "alternate theory" for every decision made a new universe is created in which you make the exact opposite decision so in one universe you kill ornstein he doesn't go to Lothric and archdragon peak but in another he stands with smough and fights the chosen undead but no matter what it is impossible for ornstein to be an illusion if he was an illusion how could he drop a soul?

[@hal6368]

him being the first born literally screams it out with item descriptions.

[@marvelouspatches8577]

The music is right on point with those video. Well done sir!!!

[@Knight_Astolfo]

7:18 Dark Souls 3, Life is Strange style.

[@dancingmadspaghetti]

traditionally, two-handed means what you settled on: one sword wielded in two hands. the alternative is either dual wielding or two weapon fighting.

[@8SwordStyle]

Superb video as always. Keep it up!!!

[@samjosephalcoriza5087]

great vid as always man

[@WakkaMadeInYevon]

Yeah if it was "Sword in each hand" it would probably be "Dual Wielding Swordplay", in which case "nimble" wouldn't need mentioning, that's a given, and yet the NK is a very nimble 2-hand sword user.

[@WakkaMadeInYevon]

By the way, that Ancient Wyvern fight was legendary

[@cissuperdroid]

Besides, heavy armor tended to be associated with two-handed, single weapons in history, so...

[@nathanieljernigan1147]

The Ivory King came from Forossa, and may even have been a Lion Knight himself. The majority of Loyce weapons are greatswords, and even further a lot of them are dex based greatswords. Looking at you Loyce Greatsword.

[@nayyarrashid4661]

@@WakkaMadeInYevon What was good about it? I just stood on the side of that entrance and soul speared him... Had to use about 6 ashen estus

[@Rat-dh6ck]

His name is Gwynsen, Sen's fortress is a hint and sen is a suffix for "son of". Same enemies reside in Sen's fortress and Archdragon peak.

[@nayyarrashid4661]

Sort of a twist on Thor's name

[@Eparavu]

yay new s Silver Mont! you are so underrated.

[@maciejochowski7662]

7:15 That fail xD Interesting video btw. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@slightlytwistedagain]

I think it's worth noting that the Nameless King/Faraam/Gwyndor (whatever I like how it rolls of the tounge) foolishness might be much deeper than just aligning with the dragons. In DS2 you have those two paths from Majula, Iron Keep and The Lost Bastille. In the lore it states that both of them hated each other. Considering Iron Keep and The Lost Basille are representations of Gwyn and the Witch of Izalith, it's subtlety saying that the hatred between the two is still continuing (the went to war with one another). What area is on The Witch of Izalith's side, Heide's Tower of Flame. I always thought it odd that an area so connected to Gwyn was on the side of The Witch but treating HTOF as Nameless King/Faraam/Gwyndor area it makes more sense, especially with Old Dragonslayer and "DragonRider". Maybe I'm reading too much into it when I say this but considering HTOF location, Nameless King/Faraam/Gwyndor might have sided with The Witch as well who went to war with Gwyn at one point. It's deeply interesting if true because if so then it appears Gwyn wasn't a beloved ruler and is more reason for the Nameless King/Faraam/Gwyndor to be stript of his status, he really did the ultimate betrayal. Also a bonus, you know how angels are a big thing in DS3, in Iron Keep there is an angel satue above the bridge. It isn't Dark Lurker and is female. It seems angels have been a big thing from the begining.

[@creeperkiller78]

3:00 in olden times (don't know the specifics) some family's named the first born son after his father hence Gwynavere and Gwyndoln, so there's a good chance the nameless kings name is simply Gwyn

[@Lexender]

ultra ranger There's a fourth child called Fillianore, so not necessarily that it has to follow the "Gwyn+X" formula

[@garou1508]

ultra ranger gwyndovere?

[@siegmeyerlinde]

These lore videos make me feel so happy

[@thenathanbyrne7333]

:D first time getting to see ur vid on the day it was made

[@DoctorDex]

Nameless Lord sounds a lot better to me than King. He's still my favorite boss though.

[@amaankhadar5264]

Nameless King is just dark souls' true neutral

[@SithYuta]

I began ds on ds3 but then played all of them through and am in love with this series

[@bynnrowell9595]

nice job missing that kill xD Also, dem doodles you get for these videos are amazeballs, I love them

[@SilverMont]

Me too!

[@Aventador815]

The nameless king's name could be sen because in sen's fortress there are snake men just like in archdragon peak

[@shaunmitchell9956]

Good point

[@SpencerIsAnIdiot]

I think that coincides with the idea of "Geynsen"

[@SilverMont]

Yeah, I kinda like the idea of "Gwynsen" if only 'cos it would explain who/what Sen is, haha.

[@shaunmitchell9956]

Silver Mont what I'm hoping they will do because this is the last game, after the dlc or a few years after they will release a whole book or page wi every single outcome or detail to the lore as it is

[@adrianchua835]

Sen's Fortress is a mistranslation. In Japan it was actually called the Fortress of a thousand traps. And the man serpents could be there because of Seath.

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

was anyone else hoping the ultra secret post final boss boss would be a fight against Solaire?

[@camiloprieto3814]

SH4D0W I was hoping for Giantdad tbh.

[@dumbtweacz2150]

SH4D0W thats why youre not developing the game. because of your shitty ideas

[@finallyaleks]

+Silver Mont I'm so sorry that happened to you. (Regarding the game footage at around 7:16. And right after footage of demolishing the Nameless King solo! Props for that, by the way!) And most importantly here we have another excellent lore video. Good work, enjoyed it!

[@TheBlackCoyoteGaming]

masterful video well done sir

[@TheGoodCrusader]

My name jeff

[@SilverMont]

Gabe why didn't you respond to my e-mail

[@TheGoodCrusader]

Silver Mont sorry dude been working on half life 3 for years now.

[@wanderingbufoon]

faraam i think is urdu... for faraham karna. which could mean rally or gather. befitting name for a god of war.

[@nayyarrashid4661]

Farhaam means to provide and I think it sounds more like Persian or Egyptian to me... It is not a real name so...

[@allusi1337]

seriously alex for me you're the best dark souls youtuber that exists,you put so much effort in your videos and yet you put them out pretty fast.I am a huge fan of your videos and hope you won't stop doing them even though the dark souls series has come to an end. Greetings from Germany :)

[@SilverMont]

Thanks, glad you like them! And yeah I've got a lot of content planned haha - it's actually somewhat of a relief to know that there won't be any new Souls games coming (at least, not soon) as it means I can finally get around to re-creating some of my older videos and also making some Demon's Souls lore

[@allusi1337]

+Silver Mont Great! im looking forward too it :D

[@deadrabbit9802]

Ahhhhh! Finally another lore video. Not that I don't like your other videos, I just like your lore ones the best.

[@SilverMont]

+Dead Rabbit it hasn't been that long, surely!

[@deadrabbit9802]

+Silver Mont well... It's kind of a "I'm greedy and want to work you like a cow until you have no energy left" thing... Oh wait, I just compared one of my favorite KZbinrs to a farm animal, crap.

[@SilverMont]

I compare people to animals all the time, it's cool

[@cortx2lh]

And he has a weakness to dark dmg. Another evidence.

[@MrPie-vc4ux]

The dragon got stuck so I had to slowly kill it with wood arrows :(

[@SilverMont]

That sounds very painful, for all parties involved

[@Knightfire66]

i hope the nameless king gets stuck... so i can finally kill that sun of a bitch... but the only bugg i had was that i got stuck entering the fight in the "door-smoke"

[@joshuamoothedan2611]

I like your dark souls one vids because I left with more questions than I began butnlove your videos

[@machitoons]

Well of course his name was GWYN’O’WAAAAAR [intense medieval metal guitar solo]

[@randomguy3849]

RIP My boy solaire

[@tagzz7793]

Gwynt is the Welsh word for wind

[@jonathangrover3176]

Tagz Z77 i thought it was that Gwynne meant "white" or "pure?"

[@garymcjerry]

Gwyn literally means white however white is synonymous with being pure or blessed.. because different contexts and connotations can generally change a word unlike English, it's quite hard to directly translate every word to an english one... for example: if you ask for someone's age in Welsh your really asking 'how many years do you have' see how it doesn't fit into English very well.

[@Cr33pysku11]

You find Ornstein's armor without a body because he took it off to have intense yaoi action with the Nameless King

[@aldrixlevy228]

Your thumbnails are the best haha

[@SilverMont]

Thank you! I like the art, too

[@nando9173]

Hey silver Mont Faraam could derive from the Persian/islamic name Farnaam or farnam, meaning "One with a great/majestic/highly respected name" a very fitting name if I say so.

[@Ornstam]

Praise the sun!

[@blastbowman9026]

Nice to see the mystery to be revealed after so long

[@fernybern]

great video i immediately thought his name was faraam but i think we will never really know his past

[@OldManMcLoyf]

There are many universes in Dark Souls, many timelines, ask Solaire and he even says it.....I think in one of them Solaire is the First Born.....he will always be in my eyes...

[@gabrielperez9757]

Aye we can agree

[@ElDrHouse2010]

And in another the first born is Patches.

[@avizzi3836]

And another frampt

[@jupiterscock0]

He says time is convoluted. It doesn't mean people can suddenly be born from different parents just because. As Lazule and Avizzi said, it makes as much sense as Patches or Frampt being the first born. I'll add Gwyn to the mix. In another universe, he's his own son and the whole Souls franchise is just a poor allegory to Christianism.

[@HelixsoulX]

It took me so long to subscribe because I straight up thought you were vaati.

[@GuilhermeBOT]

It seems legit

[@SilverMont]

+HelixsoulX I must be, considering how often they are brought up. I guess when I sleep, my Zelda villain alter ego emerges or something

[@Foeleyable]

+Silver Mont i think they are referring to vaatividya; another dark souls lore dood.

[@ElDrHouse2010]

THIS VID. FINALLY! Thank you The Silvermont you're a qt pie!

[@Dr_OneWing]

i think the fact that his second phase boss music is a remix of Gwyns theme is the biggest indicator that he is his firstborn, or at least related to Gwyn

[@yiftachzabary]

Holy shit that picture is cute AF :D

[@ShirakiAkarin]

sooo the nameless king had sex with a dragon?

[@andybaker8775]

Shiro, Lord Of The Moonlight Yiff in hell

[@elignationsva5895]

I have this to say. Remember the darkened Orenstein in DS2? Perhaps the king turned him away, and he went to Drangleic, perhaps to the old cathedral to atone for his "sins", or something. Perhaps he was unworthy, serving with Gywn and all. I also believe that the Nameless King sorta gave up on the world after being defeated. He watched close by, but why care? His enemies were getting his revenge. Also, Solaire. He is the true Lord of Dark Souls. Praise the sun, brothers.

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Gwyndolin may be worshiped as a moon god famously in the first game...but in the third it seems knowledge of his god status may not be known outside of Irithyl. As for the first born...I think the matter is likely complicated. We don't know what inspired him to join the dragons. Only that his father disapproved so much that the first born was disowned to the point of losing his name and status in Gwyn's court. Kinda hard to take away in born powers...but all else could and was taken from him.

[@bat_greedo5875]

What if Solaire IS the Nameless King?!?!? We don't know what happens to Solaire after you kill Gwyn (at least if you save him in Izalith), so maybe he found his "sun" AKA: bright, fiery soul. Prolly not tho

[@SilverMont]

Miyazaki suggested that if you complete Solaire's quest, he defeats Gwyn and links the fire in his own world

[@bat_greedo5875]

Did not know that, thanks for letting me know!

[@bat_greedo5875]

By the way, I'm a little confused about the whole phantom thing. You can see Solaire is "physical" in your world near several bonfires, but I didn't realize he was considered the Chosen Undead in his own world. I thought he was a part of your world, like the way Frampt or Gywn are part of your world. I assumed every world had its own Solaire, not that he had his own world. Sorry about how long this comment was.

[@SilverMont]

The way Solaire puts it, his world and your world have "overlapped" momentarily, which is why you're able to interact with each other physically. And yet when he's not physically there, he can still be summoned into your world as a phantom via his sign, etc.

[@58632hhhh]

so okay where does Solaire fit in now?

[@roxerg]

Just some goofball that adores the sun

[@SilverMont]

Pretty much this ^

[@58632hhhh]

Roxerg A pretty strong goofball given his combat prowess if played correctly in the positive outlook of his questline.

[@forkontheleft7474]

he might be that faithful first knight?

[@DrnMontemayor]

Gwyllsmith was his most likely name, of course.

[@vituvieira]

2:19 it is indeed. I checked it with a friend that lives in Japan.

[@MegamodeltaV2]

More like Nameless Scrub.

[@RadaRadaYadaYada20]

Bet he wrecked you mate

[@freeware9642]

Jason Probably but that's the great thing about Dark Souls. Some bosses are super hard for some people and others are super easy. That's just another great thing about Dark Souls.

[@the_indicted]

19:53 Onii-chan tuskete!

[@TheZorkiel]

How about this one, you failed to consider the full implications of Yorska only mentioning Crow and Dragon and flying. More conventional like climbing and more fantastical or magical means are not considered. How she naturally assumes the player, a fully human (or hollow) looking creature to be these things. Then how she is shocked, amazed and ashamed even if you say you can not fly. Also note she does actually know of the Pontiff who does posses a flying analogue ability by magic. I'd be willing to go so far as to say this suggests she knows of or has met Crow / humanoid and Dragon / humanoid shape-shifters, that can fly. I'd say it also suggests a connection between the two factions that have those creatures central.

[@justingridley591]

i agree silvermont it does point at the namless king being gwyns first borbe but like you said it is not totaly confirmed bet we find out in a dlc . just like this upcomming one we will find out if priscilla is really the lady in the tower who is the leader of the darkmoon blades

[@eltorreblank]

his name could be Gwynforossa

[@mariod4494]

I have a question is DS 2 canon or not ?

[@SilverMont]

Yes, why wouldn't it be?

[@mariod4494]

because i heard in a video that myazaki didn't consider it as canon.

[@SilverMont]

Mario D And what video was that?

[@mariod4494]

Dark Souls 3 - Top 5 Lore Misconceptions i know he is speaking ironically for most of the stuff.

[@josecarlosvazquezvega7042]

Mario D Yep, but they do not name any characters from DS1,they say: An ancient witch who created piromancy" instead of "The Witch Of Izalith" but yes, it's canon

[@TheOnlyGimmeturben]

i think the opposite nimble two handed sword play sounds like nimble play with a sword in both hands

[@Muzzle1300]

Theory time: I believe that Forossa was destroyed due to their worship of Faraam/nameless king and therefore they were seen as heretics that must be destroyed, it makes sense to why then many kingdoms feared them. And also the reason he sided with the dragons is most likely due to Seath, maybe seeing his father and a dragon gave him the idea that they're actually sentient creatures with thoughts and feelings and seeing the capabilities of coexistence with them drove him and his curiosity to ride one, also think about it the way to archdragon peak is in the irrythyll dungeon, so I believe he watches over irrythyll and helps prisoners (who are primarily mages) escape

[@slymasterslime4251]

tell the truth the thing he's riding is not a dragon it's a wyvern wyvern have wings that stick up and has two legs dragons have 4 legs and 2 wings on its back well this is dark souls it might be understandable

[@SilverMont]

Yeah, IIRC the game calls it a "storm drake" and drakes = wyverns most of the time in Dark Souls.

[@slymasterslime4251]

Ok im sorry i get triggerd when i here people call dragons wyverns and i know there like i guess a weaker species of dragons i dounno but thanks any ways

[@justnoob8141]

Silver Mont drake doesn't had any wings

[@lordmoldybutt6361]

I love your content, Alex.

[@SilverMont]

Thanks, my man

[@aoife-oh9si]

Gywnfel. Gwyn because of course, and fel because rhyfel is war in welsh, and Gywnfel sounds better than Gywnrhyfel.

[@ChuffIed]

i would like a lore video on Havel, his story is very interesting with archdragon peak, especially with the way he is standing with a dead dragon and a live dragon that does not attack him but rather jumps down to attack us instead. Obivously whether you make one or not is entirely up to you, just stating my interest.

[@SilverMont]

I have a lore video on Havel, as it happens! Although I made it before DaS3 came out

[@TankHunterSilas]

also for the "dragon slayer" it might refer to our third unnamed slayer in the armor boss that could have been a knight that was inspired to follow the other two due to having"similar" moves but a different fighting style

[@robertwilson2516]

I've been waiting for this video for a while. You always do the most research and your name definitions are very insightful. I believe the king is Gwyn's firstborn the evidence is to numerous to stand against that theory unless Fromsoft retcons that he is Gwyn's long lost twin brother. Yorshka on the other hand I think that she is Priscilla's daughter and like your theory she didn't inherit the lifehunt power from her mother and was allowed to leave the painted world. The part about Gwndolin being her brother in my opinion is thay Gwyndolin posthumously adopted her in the name of Gwyn because I believe the Seath + Gwynavere = Priscilla.

[@SilverMont]

Yeah, Lifehunt is a bit of an anomaly. Could be the result of Seath trying to research "immortality" (and instead coming up with something that ends life) ooor maybe it was NK's doing, to create something that can be used as a weapon against the gods. Now I kinda want a "Painted World 2.0" DLC haha.

[@robertwilson2516]

The DLC is coming and we dont know how many fromsoft plans to make so keep your fingers crossed.

[@cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543]

it kinda makes sense for knight solaire to be a apostle of the nameless king. solaire set off to find his own sun to become as grossly incandescent as his mentor and master

[@AsahiMiyagi]

If you separate the name Faraam into three syllables Fa (Which is a Chinese name meaning "firstborn" I'm pretty sure?), Ra (which is the sun god), and lastly "Am" (which just could be exactly how it sounds, "I am" or just "Am") rearrange the name into a makeshift sentence "Am Firstborn Son" and víola! The name Faraam eludes to saying "I am the Firstborn son"

[@huntereyeofdarkwood5417]

Levite Knight abit of a strech but definetly a cool theory

[@uhhok8296]

Because Gwyn is a Celtic name and the gods in dark souls are generally connected to the sun I think it would be reasonable to assume that the Nameless King's name could be related to Celtic deities of the sun. There are a couple of gods associated with the sun in Celtic mythology but in particular, the two "Belenos" and "Grannos" are the male ones that fit the bill. You may have already noticed the pattern, both these names have the ending "-nos" and hell, "Grannos" is only two letters away from "Gwynnos" which is what I'm proposing. Not only is "Gwynnos" apt for cultural and symbolic reasons, but I feel like it's exactly the type of thing DS would try to pull off. Like, it's literally "Gwynson" with the suffix flipped, which is the exact type of thing I would expect from Fromsoft, the creators of the vaguest and most punishing game series.