Day 2 Red Kratom Withdrawls (Vlogged the Withdrawals)

Day 2 of Red Kratom Withdrawals. Thank you CG Kid for inspiring me to vlog the pain that I went through with this! Kratom had many benefits but also the withdrawals were more than I expected. Hopefully, this helps someone know they are not alone when going through them!
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[@ogfit5448]

For the people on less than 50g a day, quit now because it WILL get worse.

[@StayDownComeUp512]

This. I went from 4 to 20 in the least year. Day 3 rn. Kratom has its place, but if you have an addictive personality, ADHD etc....just don't fuck with it man. Its like heroin lite.

[@Jacksonfresh01]

I quit today

[@StayDownComeUp512]

@@Jacksonfresh01 month clean and I feel amazing. Was up to 20g a day and used for a few years. You do got this. You'll be tired but you got this.

[@Jacksonfresh01]

I relapsed

[@OoSwIItchyOo]

​@@Jacksonfresh01how you doing? Wishing you strength

[@JWick-iq6lp]

Thank you for posting this. For years I've been tired of people constantly saying "KRATOM is not addictive!" "Kratom's not an Opioid, its just like coffee." I feel like 'Hey if you want to deny your drug dependence, thats fine with me, but STOP telling other people these lies!"

[@commissaryarrick9670]

They will say I have been taking kratom every day for 5 years it is not addictive. They don't see the irony

[@brandolee1969]

tbh for most people it is not addictive. that really sucks man. I love kratom and I can't amagine being that addicted to it. also they really don't know it its an opiate or not. naloxone also binds to the opoid recepter. that dosent necessary make it an opoid. sometimes I wonder if it comes down to genetics. God bless bro

[@Cbd_7ohm]

@@brandolee1969 You don't know what you're talking about. Anything that binds to an opioid receptor to a significant degree, is an opioid. Kratom alkaloids aren't opiates. The word opiate doesn't mean opioid.

[@brandolee1969]

@@Cbd_7ohm chocolate also binds to opoid recepters

[@brandolee1969]

@sonicblast123 and I get what you're saying, but no, you can't call it an opiate or an opiod... lol, do some more reading on the interweb

[@sej_222]

I'm so glad you're showing people what it can be like. You *are* truly helping people in doing so.

[@EricBZink]

I really hope it helps someone I don’t normally vlog anything so this was new

[@rowinaluna9938]

thanks

[@NittyGritty420]

Disagree.., painting kratom in a negative light will give the fda ammo and the will make the herb illegal… resulting in hundreds of thousand people overdosing. Took kratom for 10 years got off it no problem.., there are withdrawals but they are no way near as bad as dope. Kratom withdrawals just feels like having a bad cold for 3 days.

[@beto4Cristo]

1. Kambucha 2. Vape kush 3 cbd 4. Workout

[@Boojyman]

Add sauna and you're set

[@iamthefiremanjj]

Fuck weeed , that stuff gives me the worst anxiety I could ever experience

[@darylmixan8170]

​@jerzyroginskijr1117 we are cut from the same cloth... there is nothing relaxing or chill if I smoke weed... nothing... when I was young and smoked, I just remember wishing I wasn't high😊😊

[@supremeteam1831]

@jerzey same

[@SquiddlyInk]

@@darylmixan8170it flip flops for me - some days it’s chill and relaxing and others I feel like I’m about to die lol 😊

[@willmanderscheid4236]

I am on day 1 of withdrawal of heavy kratom use. I have never been this sore. Thank you for the video

[@magvs_mæstro216]

How are you doing now? How long did you suffer for?

[@WarshMeh]

What happened? Titration is the best, almost painless and totally doable, just takes discipline.

[@runeplate123]

I remember being in the living room and opening the curtain and seeing ppl working out side, someone driving a car, and walking their kids. And I literally felt if I walked out there I would be dead within a HR. That’s how I felt and the time went so slow and the pain felt like death was a easy way out. It’s that bad…

[@boxcarairwaves182]

The moment on the toilet amazing thank you for this! Your a cool guy

[@Cuestar]

Not sure if you've already done this, but you might want to think about pinning a link to the withdrawal videos on all of your original red kratom videos. It may help some people that are excited about the supplement when they just watch the older videos. Hope you feel better soon, man! Thanks for documenting this

[@EricBZink]

Absolutely thanks I’m glad I could share it

[@trowwzers5057]

I used to watch your r/niceguys content all the time lol I’ve quit opioids and Kratom and the withdrawals are almost identical. I quit 60gpd of red vein CT because I was suffering from severe tremors and panic attacks. My family thought that I was having seizures

[@katryanaorange2092]

Good for you for taking charge of your life. You're a warrior and i hope you're much better now?!

[@kevculmstock1]

Thanks for documenting this! I'm about to start a taper and these videos help alot with support.

[@liltunturi1251]

Addiction is when you feel more "sober" under the influence of a substance, than if you are actually sober. This feels too real for me too.

[@BobC59]

Well said! I just tried kratom (tiny dose) recently and felt more “normal” than I have in years. I always want to feel that way but I know it can’t stay that way. so I will use like I do alcohol - in moderation, once or twice a week

[@Regalieth9143]

Man what!! 💯 I was getting high and while I was high I kinda felt sad, that’s when I knew I was addicted, went cold turkey

[@anthonysuarez4093]

WELL SAID

[@heathercampbell2806]

Thank you very true !! I was scared to drive unless I took a few pills then I felt normal as hell!!

[@liltunturi1251]

@@heathercampbell2806 Yeah Heather, sobriety is like a stretched out bad trip until things stabilize again. Thank you! Hope you doing good

[@fretnesbutke3233]

I got off of a 5 year Fentanyl prescription,on my own,by joining my local rec center and exercising every other day and replacing it with my natural endorphins. I felt better after my first workout,and it just kept getting better..IF you can be consistent, you'll find you are naturally higher for longer and can't wait for your next workout. At the 2 year mark,I was on top of the mountain. I got knocked off the routine by Covid and started on Red Mang Da,but I know I can get back on the horse and it'll be so good. When you get going,you won't be tempted because you don't want anything to interfere with how great you feel. Also,I stopped working out around age 26,and started again at 56,so don't let age or not being an athletic type stop you.

[@EricBZink]

❤️

[@sallypettit7156]

Just venting..I used to run 5 miles a day 6 days a week. I had muscles, achilles tendon completely removed from an infection. I can’t get proper pain meds, and cannot exercise to the “runners high” point anymore.

[@sarpsays]

Really sorry to hear that, have you tried other exercises that can do similar cardio like swimming maybe? It might help you get that feeling again! @@sallypettit7156

[@lostbooks2918]

Day 44 cold turkey. Doing amazing. You got this

[@t.jasonkittell2916]

This movie has been amazing for me- bro, thank you SO MUCH. “I’m sitting here sweating, pushing out imagine shit.” I’m sitting here in the same exact situation, and now laughing hysterically. This video has been a live savor.

[@t.jasonkittell2916]

Day 12 :) It can be done!!!! I have no will power and it can still be done!

[@rugdoc97]

Day 3 almost 4 still getting workouts done not nearly the energy I had before but I’m doing it. This is hell but when in determined to quit something I will quit nicotine was hard but nothing like Kratom and pills

[@rugdoc97]

Are you sober still how’s it going!

[@SeanuscaFood]

Stay strong Eric ! We are here for you ❤️❤️❤️

[@EricBZink]

Thanks all the love back at you!

[@PhilJLF]

Heroin withdrawals are worse but all physical withdrawals suck, wish you the best

[@_Kittensworth]

Thank you so much for this! I personally think kratom has a lot of potential benefit, but only if open, honest, evidence based resources are out there to help people make the best choices. It's helped me a lot to see this right now.

[@user-xu9nw4fv9c]

I been taking kratom for 2 years everyday. I never thought it would be so physically hard to come off it. It was great at first but then it became really difficult to function without it. I feel you pain. It feels like a flu

[@mikeporter9219]

How long does the withdraw effects last

[@user-xu9nw4fv9c]

@@mikeporter9219 for me about 5 or so days. I have a feeling the kratom i was taking wasn't pure kratom it might of been cut with who knows what

[@m.a.g.3920]

@@user-xu9nw4fv9c maybe, or maybe you had taking big doses? For me is not like the flu and I've been taking it (not everyday) for 3 years

[@yankees29]

Dude it’s sucks ass. I withdrew so bad last time and I started again like a moron. Time to kick tomorrow.

[@GreatGreebo]

Thanks dude...so sorry! Hugs❤️❤️❤️ LOVE YOU !!

[@EricBZink]

❤️

[@bruvvamoff]

Hope you're still clean. I had opiate withdrawals before and it was all the things you described but more intense. On day 2 my wife ended up calling an ambulance, load of help that was.

[@joshuachristie6150]

Thanks for the heads up man. I've been taking roughly 10 to 15 grams a day for several months and finally admitted I have a problem, so I am going to start weaning myself off. I've kicked heroin and fentanyl cold Turkey in the past, so I know I can do it, but I didnt realize the withdrawals were so similar. Thank you for the vids

[@williamphillip9749]

If you went through Heroin withdrawal then this won’t be terrible but it’s not easy either. I think you can easily do it and remember these feelings are temporary just like they were last time you quit.

[@These-nutz]

How did it go?

[@glennbarnette6659]

I’m shocked you could still work! I could do nothing but brace myself, cry, panic and sleep.

[@EricBZink]

You got this, it’s a struggle for real!

[@Cbd_7ohm]

Weakling.

[@glennbarnette6659]

@@Cbd_7ohm Try quitting benzos, Kratom and Suboxone at once and get back to me.

[@Cbd_7ohm]

@@glennbarnette6659 I'm mostly trolling lol I've stopped taking kratom and suboxone once cold turkey that sucked but yeah.

[@JM-zq9em]

Why is it always a big dick contest with detox. Mine is worse than yours..etc

[@bryceterry4823]

Thank you for this video just stopped yesterday and this is the one thing helping me👊

[@waynemason6162]

Thank you so much and God bless you. Doing it myself right now and yes... IT SUCKS!!

[@SAMEntalhealth]

You did get high from it. It's the tolerance build up that ceases the high . You're a warrior brother

[@Rocky-oq9cy]

9:06 I just want to let you know that right now I am going through Kratom withdrawal and I'm just glad that this video shows that I'm not alone. I'm on day 2 just the same as you here. I have kratom sitting right over there I keep having to tell myself "No, you aren't going to just take a small bit to stop the withdrawal symptoms." Because I just keep wanting to take a little bit. This sucks so goddammit much I'm just really really hoping the worst of it stops soon. I just want to sleep. Please let me sleep. My arms and legs just won't let me stop moving. They won't let me sleep. For some reason I am the opposite of hot. My arms and my legs are absolutely freezing. I am living in Texas it is not cold whatsoever right now and yet I am wearing a sweater and jeans. Thick socks. Laying in my bed under my covers. My hands and fingers are arctic.

[@jasminemariedarling]

Did u stay off kratom?

[@Rocky-oq9cy]

@@jasminemariedarling Yeah I haven't taken any, but it was really one of the most difficult and painful experiences I've ever had. Some people online will try to say Kratom doesn't have withdrawals. They are wrong, and fighting through them was horrible. I even went to the ER twice over the period of 2 weeks due to the agonizing pain I was experiencing in my arms and legs. I wouldn't wish that pain on anyone, and I'm definitely staying away from Kratom.

[@jasminemariedarling]

@@Rocky-oq9cy How long were you on kratom, how much were you taking and how long did the withdrawals take? I need to get off it. But I've been taking it daily for years, because any time I tried to stop I couldn't take the sickness & pain. The pain is mostly in my arms & the sickness is horrible. I have a doctor appointment in a few days, I'm hoping they will give me something to help before I completely withdrawal this time. I've cut my dosage way down but have withdrawals already, and this is just the beginning, I remember last time the withdrawals didn't start until I hadn't taken any at all for like 12 hours, so it's going to be worse this time. 😭 Just curious if you're all better now and how long it took to get there.

[@Rocky-oq9cy]

@@jasminemariedarling I was taking an ungodly amount. I had been taking probably 10-12+ TABLESPOONS of Kratom two times a day for probably around 2 years. I didn't start at that point, but my dose slowly went up over that time. The withdrawals lasted probably around 2 weeks. It is going to be difficult to sleep during them. The lack of sleep and the aching pains in my arms and legs was the worst part but even in extreme cases such as mine, it DOES go away afterwards. I won't lie to you and say it is going to be easy, but the withdrawals do get better. Lots of Ibuprofen and Melatonin will help.

[@jasminemariedarling]

@@Rocky-oq9cy thank you so much. Wow that's a lot, I take about 3-5 tablespoons a day, but its been like 9 years. I really really appreciate hearing that it will get better. Thank you

[@Anangelfromabove]

Love your honesty. I’m going through the same rn. So glad you got through this.

[@thomashunt6000]

Hey, how's it going? I'm getting ready to jump off of this stuff and go through WD for the third or fourth time.

[@therealjulez7886]

man.. thank u for posting this homie. I was thinkin of tryin Kratom as an alternative since i quit smokin cannabis. and I have a verrrrrryy addictive personality I wud of indulged myself into withdrawal fast. hope ur feeling better today, take care bro

[@miguelsalas8583]

Thank you so much, i was getting a major tattoo on my chest on Friday and my tattoo artist recommended Kratom, I took 5 capsules and within 30 minutes felt amazing. Didn’t think anything of it. Later we went had some drinks. Saturday I had a Christmas party and I had unbelievable sharp dulling pain in my upper stomach lower chest and even in my back. The pain would come and go. Yesterday was Sunday and the pain was still there. I didn’t think it was related to the Kratom, I was convinced that it was my gall bladder. Today is Monday and I finally start to feel better. I’m hoping all of this is related to the Kratom I took and not my gall bladder. Thank you for this video

[@chicofromph33nix64]

I would look into it.. taking it once or a few times shouldn't do that.. unless you've been going hard for over a year

[@Slippery413]

It take 2 or 3 weeks for your body too build a tolerance too it. 1 day wouldn't do anything.

[@hmmmidk4085]

Not supposed to mix alcohol and kratom

[@Surfer8652]

I've been a heavy kratom user for the past decade and take over an ounce a day. Quitting cold turkey is nightmarish, and I'm basically unable to get out of bed for days. That isn't feasible when one needs to go to work and function in life. Instead I've tapered off a few teaspoons per week which allows me to continue functioning mostly but it's still difficult. I just started using stem and vein kratom which so far appears to be making the tapering process easier.

[@that1s3curityguard26]

Over an once a day?!? How are you doing now?

[@jasonday8334]

I was up to 4 oz a day, and tried to quit CT 😂 yeah that didn’t work, after 24 hours I wanted to play in traffic. Anyway I have a plan to taper and already cut my dose in half, and 10% reduction each week.

[@Iamfree62]

Or you can go from powder to tea which is a lot weaker too. I am a believer in tapering no matter how long it takes and it is the only way I could quit. Tapering was rough enough and cold turkey is like begging for nasty WDs IMO. I like being addicted to coffee a lot better than kratom no matter if all the pro kratom newbies say they are equal...hogwash and we all now that here. Have a good one.

[@dacoup5955]

After 5 years of heavy kratom usage 60 - 100 grams per day i'm now on day 8 of tapering down to 28gpd with only 2 doses within a 24 hour period with 10 - 15 hour windows in between and to say its been rough is an understatement of the year when i started this journey ... the drastic shift cutting out my middle dose and cutting a third of my intake was a shock to my body, the first 3 days where absolutely awful but i grinded it out sticking to my promise and i realized after the third day the withdrawals got easier to bare but they are still here and they get quite exhausting, i cannot just quit because of the amount i've been taken that would be catastrophic and possibly lead to me to lose my job taking days off from work and i'm not risking that. Next week i'm cutting dosage in half again and dealing with another 3 day adjustment period, then the next week i'm putting myself at the 5 -6gpd range with the same schedule and adjusting for another week and then i'm jumping off completely ... I'm not looking forward to it but its gotta be done, for anyone going through this two things i suggest ... get some probiotics in ya, vitamin c packets are your best friend and from my experience the sooner you get comfortable with the withdrawals the easier it gets ... so don't prolong the inevitable, taper if you're on a high dose mark but the longer windows you put in front of you before your next dose gets your body adapting so i'd imagine when i go cold the worst would have already passed.

[@TK-sz6nj]

Thank you for explaining how you assumed it would be no big deal, and are humbly saying this is no joke. Kratom forms a strong dependence. The addiction factor becomes evident when we go through this withdrawal and realize how bad this substance is, and then relapse months or years later. Every time I relapse I know how bad it will be to get off, and yet I throw reason to the wind. After 5+ times getting off and on, I am able to see what it means when they say addiction is a disease. For me, a strong sober support group is needed

[@Iamfree62]

Each time the WDs are worse. Kindling.

[@chrisschindler7485]

I agree thank you for putting this video up I already was going through withdrawals when I saw your video. I was super happy not to Go through it alone. I've been talking in AA meetings about Kratom and educating people On the withdrawals unfortunately my sponsor made me change my clean date

[@delisspeciosa8801]

hello hery, every day I drink red borneo with black coffee, it makes my body relax & stay awake for 6 hours, after that I sleep soundly & my body is refreshed

[@user-qc3up8uc5o]

8 months clean and it feels great

[@ambergeorge6435]

Thank you, I almost tried this. I appreciate you

[@Bravo08328]

Thank you for posting this. It really helped me not feel alone while im going through this withdrawal and your right this shit sucks. Its my 6th day of no kratom havent slept in 5 days im hoping this restlessness goes away because me not sleeping is killing me. Thank you bro you helped big time god bless

[@EricBZink]

Absolutely and you got this!

[@Bravo08328]

Thank you 👍

[@Bravo08328]

IDK if I'm different but the cravings the restless leg and not sleeping was more amplified? I don't take as much as other people but it's got to a point on the 8th day with 7 days of sleep and restless leg i just couldnt take it anymore. I ended up getting some, 30 capsules and and took 4 and finally fell asleep with no restless leg or pain. Now I'm just trying to take 2 every few hours and it helps with me not twitching or having restless leg or insomnia. I really don't know what to do because I tried for 8 days of detox and I thought it would get better but 7 days with no sleep and always having restless leg just got to me. If anybody can help me I would greatly appreciate it. I appreciate your post it helps a lot take care god bless

[@Iamfree62]

@@Bravo08328 Magnesium glycinate and massive vitamin C. Exercise if possible till you about drop.

[@austinwilson4785]

Hope your still doing good, I’m on day 4 after 2 years of heavy use, and starting to feel a lot better.

[@legalbeefs6495]

Ty Austin day 2 here I needed to hear things get better

[@mamothboyzosrs9718]

thanks for posting im about 24 hours in and its awful

[@tsraney]

@@mamothboyzosrs9718did you make it throw the week? On day 4 rn and it's been hell

[@mamothboyzosrs9718]

@@tsraneyi caved on day 4 and decided to do a fast taper instead of cold turkey like i tried...im not proud but i was good for 2 0z a day...down to a half teaspoon twice a day now almost time to stop completley..wish u luck man

[@dravonthatcher9185]

I've been taking 8 grams a day for 5 years. I come off every 3-4 months and go through this to get my tolerance down. I have 8 herniated discs in my back, I'd rather deal with this than take a perc again.

[@bobbybowring4499]

I’m doing basically CT from heaps of red per day and it feels like death for me personally. Every movement feels hopeless and miserable and I don’t want to stay still. Cold and achy everything sucks. The psychological aspect for me is almost unbearable but bear I have been on suboxone before etc

[@tinabrothers]

Hope you feel better soon!

[@EricBZink]

I do some finally

[@sej_222]

Yeah I agree. It's a milder withdrawal than from opiates but even that is *awful*. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

[@EricBZink]

Yeah it sucked was more than I expected

[@maryluangelo2534]

Yep

[@maryluangelo2534]

I agree omg it nothing like opiates. I didn't have much trouble with the kratom I would just do a little bit less each time and it wasn't bad at all I don't know I take 2-4 grams 2-3 times a day The only problem a had was a nose thing Sneezing and runniy nois

[@anthonylewis9256]

@@maryluangelo2534 Same here I been thru full agonists opiates before so this shit seems weak to me . I took 10 grams 3 to 4 times a day went to 5 grams 3 times and stopped. Did you have the feeling of wanting to stretch your whole body several times thru out the day ?

[@maryluangelo2534]

@@anthonylewis9256 Omg Anthony lmao I told my Dr. I needed one of those torture stretch machines I don't know what you call there's old-time torture things I need to be like stretched until it pulled me apart lol between that and the restless leg syndrome ohhhh Lord hope all is well with you and have a good day

[@breezyncj]

Thank you for this validation..sometimes I start to question if it's all in my head or not and this confirmed the withdrawals are absolutely real. I'm trying to come off of 13-15g a day after using it continuously for 3-4 years or so. Not sure if you'll see this but I'd love to know how you're doing nowadays.

[@christianestrada1671]

That’s okay I do the same thing. I think it’s just anxiety. Like you wanna believe what you’re going through is from this particular thing but the question still looms over your head. You’re gonna be okay. I went through this many times and I’m going through it again. Good luck 👍🏽

[@audiofaktory]

Hey Eric…Is it the type of Kratom making this worse, or is it a result of kindling? (Kindling is where each withdrawal is worse than the last)

[@mikeporter9219]

I takeN 5 RED HORNED MENG DA every morning for the past 2 months and previously used opioids, so am I about to have symptoms like this or does it take longer for the withdrawal to get like this, also should I start tapering off now because I'm not trying to go through this.. ALSO THANKS FOR RECORDING THIS BRO YOUR DEFINENTLY SAVING PEOPLE

[@LuisMorales-xh2ch]

I completely understand. I take Kratom 3 times a day 3-4 grams for about 3 years. I just recently came off of it and delta 8 really takes the edge off. Delta 8 makes most of the pain go away and gets you out of that mindset. Puts me right back on track.

[@tomvennings6170]

agree delta is a life saver!

[@richardlawson6787]

I prefer top grade cannabis

[@Cbd_7ohm]

@@richardlawson6787 Cannabis ans it's constituents in general are good(you have to be careful with the Delta-9-THC though, causes tolerance dependence and withdrawals with chronic use).

[@mandawilson7050]

So your just trading one for another lol

[@rian6352]

@@mandawilson7050yes, but one is less harmful

[@jasonjones4036]

Got off herion/alcohol 13 yrs ago. Went back to drinking and smoking weed. Found kratom and haven't had a drink in 2 years. Now I have to end kratom. Stepping down bc kratom is getting bad for me. Irritable, restless and discontent. Should have never started. I can't even smoke weed anymore. My memory is gone. My spiritual life sucks. I don't think it's evil- esp compared to dope but it's not all that ppl think it is either. Can't wait to be totally free again. That's what I get for taking shortcuts. Not looking forward to the next month. :/

[@chriscooper4990]

Buddy me too i started this shit after havein a year sober from heroin and meth and i feel the same way as you buddy but dont beat urself up we are still doin so much better than we were back then love ya pal we got this shit

[@alanluscombe8a553]

Same boat here, i regret listening to everyone saying its a cure its my fault for listening to it but this shit isnt a cure its just a trade. Its taken my entire life

[@cesaruribe2487]

@@alanluscombe8a553 don’t lose hope of you do it right it will work. I was taking 72gram of Kratom when I first got off heroin. Then started to taper the Kratom. I am now down to 27 grams. Day by day!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@VisualTedium]

Lemme tell why i dont believe your story. Respectfully. Your brain wont let you go back to weed after an opiate addiction. It will just give you panic attacks

[@alanfernandez854]

@@VisualTedium Seriously? Is there a reason for this? Makes sense. After using opiates, benzos, and adderal and such, weed has constantly given me really bad anxiety

[@jasonjones4036]

Hope your work trip went ok. Hope you didn't go back. You can get thru this

[@cindykay5366]

Thanks for the withdrawal information

[@scotty8307]

This isn’t a recommendation but if u take suboxone (one dose) there is no kratom withdrawal. Suboxone has a very long half life so by the time the suboxone wears off the kratom is out of your system. The suboxone affects a different receptor in your brain so suboxone will get you off with one dose. Note you don’t want to continue using suboxone of course as long as u discontinue within 2 days you will literally have zero withdrawals.

[@bradmorgan252]

How the hell are you supposed to get one dose of suboxone

[@zyzyx4157]

Don’t do this!!! I took suboxone THREE WHOLE DAYS after my last dose of kratom and it kicked me into precipitated withdrawal! Withdrawals weren’t too bad but instantly was in the most pain I’ve ever been in as soon as I took the suboxone! Started throwing up and could barely move! Don’t take suboxone. Wait at least two weeks because kratom stays in your system for much longer than normal opiates.

[@douglascollins9669]

When withdrawaling from heroin u nothing gives u relief when out in the sun u sweat like crazy and when u go inside with the a/c on u start shivering and shaking

[@EricBZink]

it's just hell all the way around

[@douglascollins9669]

@@EricBZink yes it is..but hey u got this man

[@LUC1FER_R1S1NG]

Yup...story of my life..dont take suboxone....i didn't know

[@DoingNothingKing]

@@LUC1FER_R1S1NG suboxone is real deal withdrawals. Kratom withdrawals is nothing. Solute if you made it through the suboxone withdrawals. Heroin addicts even say suboxone withdrawals is worse then heroin. It’s way worse then fentanyl

[@Iamfree62]

The term Cold turkey comes from the skin condition of people withdrawing from heroin... if you did not already know that. I never touched heroin but was reading about mega dosing studies of vitamin c to kill WDs on heroin and kratom. Vit c and magnesium glycinate helped me quit along with a lot of firewood splitting and exercise to keep my mind off feeling so crappy. Never again LOL.

[@donkcrypto9613]

I wonder if the WDs on the red were worse then the other two due to the fact it was your 3rd go of trying it. Maybe it does act more on opiate receptors and is worse WD but I would think the 3rd go could be a factor. How long did you wait in between going to the next 30 day trial?

[@jasonday8334]

I’m tapering off of a 4oz a day use. I tried CT from that high of use, I lasted 24 hours before I relapsed and got on a taper plan. I’m doing well, cut my dose in half, with the same frequency for 7-10 days and then reduce dose by 10% every 7-10 days. Kratom withdrawal is a force to be reckoned with. I hope your doing well.

[@briandcarey3110]

Did you sneeze alot?

[@julesdevall2176]

I was using Kratom for my cravings for meth adderall and benzos and when I started tapering I had so much panic and anxiety I had to take a week off work, its been a couple weeks since I stopped and I'm feeling a lot better now

[@alanluscombe8a553]

Hows it going for you now? How much kratom were you taking? I am having a hell of a time with this shit. The mental part of it is terrible and nothing seems to help at all

[@billyfubar2748]

"I've been smoking a bunch of cigarettes" I don't know why I feel like shit

[@Iamfree62]

yup, from me a three year non stop kratom abuser...if you are quitting kratom do not turn around and substitute drugs and be smoking pot and drinking etc. Your mind and body are out of balance and is struggling to stabilize after kratom abuse. Stay totally clean and get over the kratom. I recommend tapering at your own pace... you can walk down a set of stairs a lot more comfortably than jumping down from the top step is an example about tapering I read and I agree. I got a scale and kept a log and quit after three years non stop kraton abuse. Stop smoking too. Have a good one.

[@legalbeefs6495]

Day 1 here brother ty for this I don’t feel so alone watching you..

[@alanluscombe8a553]

How are you now? Im having a very hard time stopping this and besides the physical stuff the mental part is very hard. Feel like dying and nothing helps

[@endlessswaz2529]

Day 2 here bro and it's fuckin terrible so scared I'm gonna cave in and get more. Trying my hardest.

[@DancingSk3L3tons]

Good on you Bro, not enough people are talking about the downsides. If you take ANYTHING long enough you are going to feel withdrawal. I never thought quiting coffee and kratom would be on par with cocaine for me but... Here we are lol

[@thinkforyourself828]

Balance out withdrawals with magnesium, kava, b-complex vitamins or 5mg melatonin. Infrared saunas also cut detox time in half.

[@bane1]

How do you utilize the sauna?

[@o0R3stless0o]

what b-complex did you use?

[@Iamfree62]

Massive vitamin c helps lots of people. I took magnesium glycinate and vitamin c powder. I exercised like crazy and quit towards spring so the change to sunny weather would help my mood...that really helped me.

[@nategreenfield1349]

Needed to see this because I'm about to go cold turkey. I've withdrawn from every opiate and it's just horrible and I thought this wouldn't even compare but honestly it suuuuuuucks man it almost gives me flashbacks of fentanyl withdrawal. This will be my last withdrawal I just can't do it anymore . Why do we put ourselves through this hell? Hope you made it and are done with the shit

[@caitlincrisis]

It’s my second day off kratom, so thank you for your testimony, need the inspiration

[@TheGr8-1]

‘I don’t wanna see ppl’ that’s the perfect description of the feeling. And you are on point. It’s not close to opiate withdrawal. But if you’ve only ever withdrawal from coffee and you compare it to this? Kratom withdrawal sucks that much more. But if you have withdrawal from opiates then kratom sucks. But it’s nothing you can’t handle. Lol. It’s all relative.

[@pereiraplaza222]

Men, caffeine withdrawals are no joke either, I'm not kidding.

[@SquiddlyInk]

@@pereiraplaza222no they’re not a joke at all. It’s all relative though they’re right.

[@pereiraplaza222]

@@SquiddlyInk For me personally cafeïne withdrawals are worse than Kratom.

[@therideneverends1697]

@@pereiraplaza222 i can not take my ADHD perscription whenever and i dont feel withdrawls, i drink coffee 4 days in a row and day 5 if i forget it feels like someone hit me in the head with a brick

[@Ben-nh9xw]

There is no free ride for the addicts. I finally tried Kratom for the first time about three months ago. Had been taking opioids for 20 years. Tried Kratom to see if it could help with the withdrawal I go through every month as I run out of my monthly prescription in 10 days to 2weeks. It felt like a miracle that first week,all the benefits of an opioid without the drowsy feeling. Good for pain. Good for anxiety,total home run. Then the constipation came. Then even worse,I finally went. Hours to accomplish it and had a sense of what delivering a baby felt like. Thought I would get a break when I went back on the pills when my prescription came again. No,even taking stool softeners every day and getting that 10 day break from the Kratom each month my problems in the bathroom never ceases. Right at the this moment I have not taken Kratom for 8 days and have not gone to the bathroom in 3... and am scared shitless thinking about when I finally do(hahaha). So I guess I would tell you all that Kratom works,but is a pain in the ass also.. hahahaha

[@richardlawson6787]

Opiates can cause constipation...but I never had it with kratom..dude you need to examine your diet...increase your intake of fiber

[@Ben-nh9xw]

@@richardlawson6787 exact opposite with me,never had it with opioids,but do with Kratom

[@Iamfree62]

@@richardlawson6787 Common with kratom.

[@giovannimarino7449]

Can i ask you question i really want to get of methadone witch i have been taking for years ive herd about red kratom can help me with wd how whats the longest i could take red kratom before I start to physically withdraw from it because i dont want to swap one for another not sure what to do .Hope your better today greetings from uk

[@290DIRT]

I've been taking Kratom in 2 years but only as needed. This month is been a hard time for me, I took 5gr each, 3 days in a row and on day 4 (today) I didn't take at all and I'm feeling depressed, anxious, fatigue also warm feeling around my waist. Are these withdrawal symptoms?

[@Griffinvapes]

I've been taking one to two opms shots a day for 2 years... I'm on day 4 off it and it's been hell. Blood pressure through the roof. Heart palpitations and intense body pain. Never again

[@dravonthatcher9185]

I've been taking 8 grams a day for 5 years. I come off every 3-4 months and go through this to get my tolerance down. I have 8 herniated discs in my back, I'd rather deal with this than take a perc again.

[@EricBZink]

❤️

[@RobChapala]

Yo, could we talk? I'm currently trying to quit pain management but the damn meds run my life..

[@dravonthatcher9185]

@@RobChapala sure hit me up on instagram @dravonishere

[@klausmkl]

ive taken percs too. Never again for me.

[@joecanales2259]

Man your videos cracking me up, I’m day 2 right now off red Bali n extract shots. Ima long time opiate addict. So I know the deal. Been here many times. It’s nice to laugh thru the shitty feeling. When you’r in a parking lot and know you need to go inside but don’t even wanna see people. Or every movement causes you to feel dizzy n nauseous. Thanks for the entertainment. Hope it went well. I know I won’t get much sleep so I’m just gonna watch videos n chill. ✌🏽

[@jacobherzig4805]

Yeah first time I ran out kratom after talking it several times a day for over a year... ABSOLUTELY 100% like coming off of roxys. Not as intense but you definitely feel hit. It sucks, you can't get comfortable, you can't get anything done, walking up stairs wipes you out, you can't sleep but you're tired as hell, you forget shit... it's just a whole lot of WTF.

[@jacobherzig4805]

@Stephen Cho I still take it but instead of every few hours I take it once a day.

[@jacobherzig4805]

@Stephen Cho that's awesome man! I guess for me it's the ease of access that keeps me hung up on the sludge. If what I keep reading about the FDA trying to get the WHO involved in a global ban actually happens, I probably won't have too much of a problem walking away from it. Keep up the good work! Victory is always inspirational. Thank you for sharing!

[@deathdealer5859]

qQQ

[@chandapetit9175]

Stay off drinking and coke ur Aces.... Great video... Loved the Wal-Mart part.. Sooooooo can relate.. God bless

[@alanluscombe8a553]

Thank you for not lying about this shit

[@mattbauby2357]

Thanks for your vid man .. I’m. Struggling right now with HUGE doses of the liquid shots opms gold. Feels like heroin withdrawal just as intense. Can u tell me how long u we’re on kratom ??? 5 grams a day is like nothing. I can’t believe ur even sick .. but thank u for showing us that even small doses can mess u up

[@AltruisticWarrior]

Similar problem here too. Nodzilla shots. Switch back to powder and take 10 caps or so and see how you feel, taper from there. Towards the end use some immodium towards the night time hours(3 tabs or so). It'll stop the RLS. Stay away from benzos and things like benadryl. Start working out when you can to kick start natural dopamine responses. I feel far better with exercise.

[@alanluscombe8a553]

I feel you. I get scared when i hear of people saying they feel terrible after using 5g a day. I use 50 to 120 g a day and stopping is worse than when i quit pain pills.

[@pimmelpaule5606]

@@AltruisticWarrior "start working out" lol. i know u mean it good but...,.

[@GalCharlotte]

I just detoxed and had withdrawal from alcohol. You sound like me but I was even worse. Why did you go cold turkey?

[@ravenclaw5857]

I take red Kratom for pain and it works great. I am only taking 500mg/0.5grams about every 2or 3 days. I am carful not to get addicted. but it is the only thing that helps with my osteoarthritis, Fibromyalgia and small fiber neuropathy. I can not function when I hurt.

[@amphibeingmcshpongletron5026]

I'm amazed (and glad) it works for you at such low doses! I tend not to feel much of anything even at 2 grams even if I haven't taken it in months or years. I need 3 grams to really notice any effects, and even then it doesn't do much for pain in my experience (at least not acute muscle pain, headaches, etc). It's more mental benefits for me. Haven't had issues using it on and off over the years but I'm still weary of becoming dependent on it since I just ordered a bunch for the first time in years.

[@jazzygirlmusic2765]

Same here raven I was on high doses of fentanyl patches and oxycodone 30mg I went to rehab got off of it and was not able to do anything at all hurting so bad fibromyalgia is aweful but I found kratom and I’ve never felt better bc opioids made me go thru detox even taking high doses I was still withdrawing it was aweful

[@chicofromph33nix64]

You are very responsible with kratom.. RESPECT THE PLANT... wish I did b4 I got myself into this mess

[@Cbd_7ohm]

I take 14.7g 1.3% mitragynine kratom 3 times a day as filtered acidic tea.

[@joshnadeau9654]

I’ve taken kratom for 4 years, 40-50 grams a day dosed out roughly 8 times a day. Shits a godsend, but coming off it was a fun experience . Wasn’t complete hell but was definitely uncomfortable but not impossible. Think kratom withdrawals are bad? Try coming of hydrocodone. When you compare the to there’s a reason one you can go buy at the store no problem.

[@joshnadeau9654]

@@shayneswenson I agree the hypersensitivity, diarrhea being so sick that getting out of bed took effort. There’s no comparison. Found kratom about a month after and helped with the cravings. Been taking it ever since. Only downside I’ve ever seen from taking kratom at such high doses is the occasional slight nausea and occasionally stomach pain from the kratom farts.

[@joshnadeau9654]

Added fact. When I was at the peak of abusing hydros I would get so constipated I thought my appendix was blowing then go to the hospital to get laxatives then proceed to give birth.

[@jk7197]

Try coming off Methadone...Heroin is easier than that crap. Wish i wouldnof known about Kratom back then.

[@jrockmarquez5195]

LoL Dam you would take that much kratom ,and i feel you i use to be on hydrocodone to and i would pop 3 tens and crush up 2 tens and snort them every 4 hours i would spend like a thousand bucks every 3 or 4 days. And i would quit cold turkey on them like 5 diffrent times and would have to hide my withdraw from my girl so she wouldnt know i was on them And kratom helped me withdraw of them but i never really got addicted i guess you gotta look at yo self in the mirror and say you mean to tell me this little pill is stronger then you lol but it was never that bad i just got me alot of white mang da and white Vietnam .. i wonder how itll affect me when i quit. But i do take like 4 grams in the morning befor work and take like 6 grams of the red mang da after work but thats it but anyways how was your withdraws off the kratom

[@PrettyFLY4aWiFi.]

@@jk7197 dude would die if he withdrawaled methadone.

[@BobC59]

How much, how often, how long did you use kratom? Are you stopping cold turkey (no taper) here?

[@sherizazzetti1824]

Thats why my legs hurt so bad how long does it last i hate it but prayers for all going threw this im glad i found your channel

[@nocturnalmystery8047]

Imagine being sober and feeling the chest pain and wanting to get away. This is how it is for us with severe anxiety every day. I'm trying to quit red maeng da (1/2) tablespoon every 4 hours. Tapering is the way to go.

[@lucasvarela9632]

I got a scale and it really helped my taper. Hardest part for me is not giving in to taking a large dose when I want to really relax

[@davidjlewis9367]

TAPER! You dont have to go through it like that.

[@davidjlewis9367]

5 day taper day1 5g, day2 4g, day3 3g, day4 2g, day5 1g.

[@EricBZink]

Yeah I should have

[@Its_me_wish]

It's a no brainier..you could do a 2 week taper and feel literally no physical withdrawals. Compared to a real opiate withdrawal Kratom is nothing..and tapering is easy easy easy. The worse after a taper..even a quick taper..would be low energy for a week or 2. If you have ever went through an opiate withdrawal..kicking Kratom is a walk in the park. Not saying it doesn't suck..but it's not life altering. You withdraw from Suboxone and your life stops lol Kratom is a life saver.

[@As5Hat]

yup. I'm tapering from suboxone now. At 1.5mg from 12

[@harmonymomentofbeing5753]

It’s really hard to taper for me cause I’m a junkie and I fail every time that’s why I have to go cold turkey and this way I remember the pain and never come back to it .... at least not like I have been anyways . Kratom is wonderful and safe just wish I knew all this before and was more aware but we didn’t know in the beginning ... well that’s my Half ass excuse the other half is I knew moderation goes with everything and there would be a detox , so there’s that .

[@jordanmitchell8894]

How long were you using red kratom consistently for. One thing I notice is any time theres an apparent safer option to a different kind of drug, people immediately think that means they can take it every day for multiple months and not experience any biochemical changes. I have no intention of taking it long term. All I want to use it for is to counter any withdrawl effects when I finally take my last dose of suboxone. Ill probably take it for a week or so max.

[@jimmyboyer9392]

serouisly taking all that leaf red kratom cant be good for your stomach dumb how people are.

[@angiegosleigh3474]

That really sux. Love and hugs to you

[@EricBZink]

All the love back

[@itzflintz3505]

I notice every time I try to stop taking Kratom my whole body is just in pain and uncomfortable. It’s like I vibration of shitty feeling in my chest and the whole time I just wanna fast forward through it.

[@deadbodybaby1]

I’m boutta just sleep as much of this as I can off

[@thaspacegoatae3419]

For me it's like being in hell. And I have withdrawaled off of poppy seed tea and percocet as well.

[@alanluscombe8a553]

@@thaspacegoatae3419 me to bro. I am very close to going to a rehab or something. Ive done other drugs and never had the issues stopping as i do with this. It is not a cure for other drugs its just a trade.

[@LuisMorales-xh2ch]

I highly recommend delta 8 to take the edge off. Takes away most of the pain for me. The pain felt like getting hit by a bus or falling down cement stairs. I completely understand what you girls went threw. Give it a try

[@alanluscombe8a553]

@@LuisMorales-xh2ch where do you find delta 8 and what is it? Never heard of it

[@IronCypher]

Keep going you can get off it day 7 is great

[@EricBZink]

❤️

[@peanutbutter5986]

I feel you I know exactly what you're going through I take creative all the time Tianeptine is just like this except for a huge dose of depression

[@andreallen6019]

Into day 2 cold turkey from red maeng da. Videos definitely help. It's good to have someone to relate to

[@FadedHolySoldier]

I'm on my 7th day of quitting cold turkey and I feel so much better. I took CBD to ease the anxiety and it helped alot. Kratom is something I'll never touch again!! It was a nightmare having to depend on that stuff just to feel normal.

[@brandolee1969]

you sure you were getting kratom? I always encourage people to buy from aka vendors never gas stations or head shops. just wanted to let you know. people are still being dosed with fentanyl today and not even know it. often times there being dosed with opioids. I encourage you to follow american kratom association and find a reputable vendor. God bless

[@SpreadingDisease]

@@brandolee1969 I bought from AKA approved vendors. I was only taking 12gpd and I feel like shit. It’s not the same beast as methadone or something like that but it’s still unpleasant.

[@bill9923]

I totally know that area. That Walmart was an alpha beta. I used to get my bikes fixed in that shopping center.

[@joeuser633]

You said you were withdrawing from 5 grams but how often did you take it and for how long?

[@RiZeSeeMe1993]

your a champ. Proud of you. I crawled up into a little ball and couldnt move the last few times i tried to stop. is gonns be hard. but you guys motivate me. 😞 Hope your doing well bud. Fentynal is a hard drug to withdrawl from. But remember the scripture. Jesus wouldnt be happy if i was still using & it got to late. im scared you know. Just a young man trying to do better & change my life. Thanks for helping me. 🙏

[@christianestrada1671]

Hope your doing okay bro

[@joshua22267]

Try a benzo and alcohol withdrawal once. Those make kratom look like a furry kitten.

[@RequiemForYourDream940]

Coming off of benzos is just the worst feeling everrrrr...i've gone through heavy opiate WD's and they didn't even touch the xanax withdrawal i had at one time. That stuff is brutal man...never again...

[@theway9828]

Oh yea buddy?

[@streamer_services]

I have come off of everything thats out there at one time or another.....worst withdrawals.....xanax and alcohol are the 2 withdrawals that can actually kill you....worst for me....xanax...fen..... cigarettes....dont let ppl fool you... cigarettes are hard as shit to come off of....for one because its what you reach for when you come off of everything else.....hell it all sux ass......

[@ashleejustice2098]

Well I have went through alcohol withdrawal so what your saying is I should be good going through this withdrawal correct

[@tongpoo8985]

@@ashleejustice2098 it depends on your level of use. I was using 30 grams per day and I'm quickly tapering. Down to about 5 or 6 and it feels just like a rough case of covid or flu. Pretty lame but not horrible, just try to take some time off work.

[@coletroutman1060]

Kratom withdrawal is the most real shit ever. Went through it once before, years ago. Currently trying to taper and I’m still feeling it. Anxiety, restless, hot flashes. Also, all the reasons for taking it, your mental state when you started taking it (if you did for any mental/emotional reasons) begin to creep back.

[@user-qi1bu7fp1f]

I'm on day 2 the reality of my actual conscious mind has been horrifying.

[@jrockmarquez5195]

How often would you take it ? And what was your dose when taking it? And did you quit cold turkey ??

[@Quaz.]

You have to ween down silly pants.

[@chrisdadigger1018]

The restless legs feeling like like your boiling in your own blood is most uncomfortable

[@RobertHasty]

Going through this now. Actually went to the er today thinking I was having a heart attack or stroke or something. All tests came back perfect. I was on pain killers for 5 years, weened off them in 2 weeks not a problem. This here is worse imo. Fucking terrible, I'll never do it again that's guaranteed.

[@frankiecicero8742]

God loves you bro

[@mitchellneel488]

I’ve been taking it for over a year now. I’m on day 5 now detoxing from mostly green and white. Probably 8-10 grams a day. Headache the first day.. restless leg syndrome 2nd day. 3rd day chills like crazy rls got worse. 4th day same thing got a tiny bit better. On day 5 now finally feeling normal but my feet are sweaty and cold. Chills on and off. But finally feeling like I’m breaking through. Shit is hell.

[@erickanew]

I'm on day 3, it feels the same as day 2. It's terrible. Those idiots who say it's like coffee withdrawal can kick rocks. It feels like opiod withdrawal

[@NittyGritty420]

@@erickanew have you experienced traditional opiate withdrawal? I my experience it’s a million times worse

[@therealmccoy8307]

@@NittyGritty420 I've withdrawald from heroin and kratom and kratom is peanuts compared to the big boi withdrawals

[@NittyGritty420]

@@therealmccoy8307 exactly.. everyone talking down on kratom saying the withdrawals are terrible don’t know how mild it really is. It’s a lifesaver for people trying to kick because we all know subs don’t work.

[@denm6893]

@@erickanew obviously you've never taken opiods. Lol.

[@DDD-vt5vb]

I have been in detox for a week. Been a nightmare because I used suboxon for the first three days which delayed withdrawals. But I’m in day two or three with nothing and it sucks. But I had a strong coffee and it made me feel so much better

[@BulletESV]

Currently going though kratom withdrawal, been on 4-6 opms extract shots a day for the last 3-4 years and taking kratom since 2016, I’m so done with this shit, it’s the devil to me, these videos help thanks

[@zhonglisimp1231]

The backpain could be from the straining from going to the bathroom so much.

[@EricBZink]

It was pain all over just for some reason felt it in the back more

[@MarS-dc2qx]

Lmao