Deadly, Deadly Humans | HFY

[@scifistories1977]

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[@novoguy100]

is Forgotten by design 23a the last episode of the series or is there more, if so when is the next episode comming?

[@EggsBenedict-te4nj]

"Because since their main threat was other humans, the threat evolved with them." That is honestly so metal.

[@スガル]

If you ever get into fight with human, get other human to fight it for you. It's what they're made for after all

[@devonharvey8414]

@@スガル😂😂😂

[@tribalteuton7256]

Not to mention, for the longest time, the germanic tribes viewed Valhalla and Volkvangnr as paradise.

[@SuperJibulus]

@@スガルHumans ☕️

[@ItsChevnotJeff]

​@@tribalteuton7256 Even in Christian faith, though Heaven is a place of peace and everyone is forgiven, in Revelation souls of saints call for blood against those who wronged them so much God's angel had to tell them to be patient

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

"Why fight when the difference in power is already clear?" Because humans hunted the sabertooth tiger, short nose bear, and *whales* with nothing but pointy sticks

[@AremStefaniaK]

becos purging is REALLY REALLY FUN brother!

[@Indubidably0]

Because we're humans and we don't give a damn about the odds.

[@friskas8664]

why change stick? stick good - famous words to life by^^

[@AJPemberton]

pointy sticks are a really good force multiplier, especially in large numbers. And even more so if thrown or launched from a bow. No predator on Earth has been able to compete.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@AJPemberton Whats that? Mammoths are more or less immune to the pointy stick treatment? *We will now weaponize gravity*

[@former_sub_sailor3368]

Reminds me of the 'Man-Kzin Wars' series by Larry Niven: "When the Kzin first encountered humans, they soon realized that the reason man studied war no longer was because he had gotten so very good at it."

[@glacier68]

Ha, this is the story I just posted a comment about but couldn't remember. See also "Seven Views of Olduvai Gorge" by Mike Resnick Another brilliant closing line about the nature of humans...

[@seanhert9560]

One of my favorite quotes!

[@johnsokolowski9211]

The kzinti were victorious until the last war,if I remember correctly.

[@bormos3]

Is there a decent kzin audio novel somewhere? I haven't found one yet and I like listening to these at work so reading isn't really an option.

[@seiboldtadelbertsmiter3735]

I loved the story of the first encounter between man and the Kzin.

[@glacier68]

I read an sf story years ago of a similar theme. Humanity was known as a pacifistic race by the generation galactic population, until some new contact chose to attack them (with similar results to your story). The closing line was something like, "humans didn't avoid war because they didn't want to fight, they avoided it because they were so good at it."

[@KenS1267]

That's a line from Niven's Man Kzin war series.

[@glacier68]

@@KenS1267 yep, found the reference elsewhere in the comments.

[@mastersgt3561]

Damn do you happen to remember where you read it? Wouldn’t mind reading something like that.

[@glacier68]

@@mastersgt3561 It's from the original short story in the "Man-Kzin Wars" be LArry Niven - another poster ID'd it elsewhere in the thread.

[@starspace352]

I love that story isn't it "Why humans avoid war?"

[@Isaic02]

Human Scout: "This world is not YOURS to conquer."

[@matthew8153]

Omniman reference.

[@joshuasepeda3289]

Nice reference.👍👍

[@Frostblitz96]

*BONK*

[@geoffreyfox7618]

Old Chinese saying, better a warrior in a garden than a gardner in a war, comes to mind with this story

[@Darqshadow]

To me it makes sense. A warrior can be at peace in the garden, but a Gardner will be panicking in a war.

[@draizwrm]

Excellent thought , Try explaining that too the Anti Gun Sheepeople, who things disarming lawful people will stop criminals from attacting them

[@kevincrady2831]

As long as the warrior also knows how to grow stuff. Otherwise the army starves to death.

[@Dave-ks9fi]

Unless he's a Hobbit.

[@adamschrader328]

@@draizwrm Why bother, let nature take it's course.

[@gabrieldasilva7970]

''get other humans to do the actual fighting for you, it's what they were made for after all'' That shit's too good.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

Don't tell them about the Spartans...

[@davidt.5513]

@@MrJustonemorevoice oh sh*t don't mention them or the story will end in a bloodbath

[@zaucethesaucebauce527]

I like how accurate it is. Where humanity is all about fighting itself pretty much because it has nothing else to fight but the moment something else came into the picture it was *TARGET SIGHTED* and everyone suddenly turned to battle the aliens and to advance together.

[@ItsDaKoolaidDude]

Neuron activation

[@markusburstrom3485]

Honestly the only thing that will unite us. A common enemy.

[@brightplaysgames8760]

Its true tho we like common enemys

[@Yokoto12343]

Its like somebody crashing a party and all eyes are on them...

[@VanguardJester]

"interrupting a fight between humans is a death sentence"

[@JackalformerlyKnownasDjjjav]

Because now, there’s a common enemy

[@lukasvillar9328]

This is beyond amazing. So unique, humanity is not getting slaughtered for once.

[@piotrd.4850]

Very creative indeed and nice change. Overall, nicely done. However still 'human exceptionalism'.

[@jamesrosewell9081]

​@piotrd.4850 well it's inevitable that human writers have that bias lol. But honestly I don't see any way for a sci-fi story to get around that. It's either human exceptionally or biased against humanity where they get wiped out. Not much room for nuance when it's always human vs aliens

[@goaway152]

i have seen many neutral views of humans in writing. @@jamesrosewell9081

[@スガル]

​@@jamesrosewell9081Hunter and Prey, no in-between

[@PeachDragon_]

I mean we consider ourselves civilized but we're very very close to animals, to an alien even 1% more genetically advanced we look like barbarian savages and berserkers

[@pierremainstone-mitchell8290]

As a former soldier (Australian Army) plus a long time Sci-Fi fan I have say what a great little story!

[@Splunkzop]

As a former soldier (Royal Australian Engineers) plus a long time Sci-Fi fan, I have to agree.

[@AremStefaniaK]

Lol how to be a "former" australian aka badass? Did you kill off complete hordes of enemies singlehandedly, leaving nothing to kill for others so they had to discharge you so others can have a chance too, or that the planet just simply doesnt implode when it runs out of things to kill?

[@pierremainstone-mitchell8290]

@@AremStefaniaK Oh you poor ickle diddums! Please read my post again! I wrote "As a former soldier (Australian Army)" NOT "a "former" australian".You really are a "Richard Cranium"!

[@solannedmundo.harina9908]

Is that you in the pfp?

[@muradm7748]

Do you have Emu war nightmares?

[@DigitalDeath88]

"Why fight when the difference in power is already clear?" A human hunter sitting in his chair next to his bear skin rug: I wonder...

[@mp5enthusiast]

Quietly laughing to myself about the idea of an Alien-Human war, where aliens keep getting clapped by dudes pulling out their Mosins like, "Oh boy, here I go killin' again!"

[@bishalnath24]

This is what most sci-fi movies get wrong, they show aliens bigger and stronger than humans but in reality, if it is bigger then most probably it is from a planet with less gravity and we would be easily able to tear it apart limb by limb.

[@JohnJ469]

Are you sure about that? Animals on this planet are pretty much the smallest they've ever been.

[@kdrapertrucker]

​@@JohnJ469yes, and what happened to those larger animals in the past? They died out as the oxygen levels dropped

[@JohnJ469]

@@kdrapertrucker I think it was more atmospheric pressure than O2 levels. Don't get me wrong, the Carboniferous had very high O2 levels, but we think they had dropped by the time of the dinosaurs. The huge mystery to me is how did such large animals survive when their lungs and circulatory systems were much more primitive than today? What if air pressure was higher? 1 litre of air would have twice as much O2 than it would today. And it would make it easier for huge Pteranodons to fly. Even the early mammals were huge by 60 million years ago. An Elephant would barely make to the shoulder of some.

[@Vanjayel]

@JohnJ469 Yes al lifeforms here on Earth are smaller today because the gravity is higher today. Dinosaurs can not exist today because of that gravity difference. If a Human could go back in time to Earth then, that Human would move and fight like in that John Carter on Mars film of a few years back or like the Hulk. 🙂

[@JohnJ469]

@@Vanjayel Why would gravity be higher?

[@sam2x13]

As my brother once said almost fifty years ago, only I can hit my brother. We may squabble amongst ourselves. But heaven help the person who thinks that they can harm one of us and not pay a price.

[@techristopher8077]

Indeed

[@nargalda773]

you spell fucking xenos wrongly

[@LordOceanus]

There is an old Bedouin expression that comes to mind with this. "I, against my brothers. I and my brothers against my cousins. I and my brothers and my cousins against the world."

[@Pork98]

It's the same with me and my friends. I can insult them, but if someone else does it, they won't make it out without some sort of injurty

[@nargalda773]

@@Pork98 as it should be, nobody is allowed beat my younger brother, only me

[@jkirschy]

This reminds me of an Alan Dean Foster book trilogy called "The Damned" that I read back in the 1990s. The first book, "A Call to Arms" basically tells the story two warring groups of aliens come across a world groaning beneath the weight of unused weaponry. One of the groups, the Weave, tries recruiting and finds humans very effective soldiers and quite innovative when it comes to finding new and better ways to kill their enemies. The other tries invading Earth to stop the supply of these new super-soldiers. The invasion does not go well for the invaders... And it motivates the humans to join the Weave en mass in their war against the Amplitur...

[@drcatspaw]

I remember reading that when I was younger. One of the few books I kept my copy of on my shelf. Great series.

[@beauleggedwatkins]

Read that book myself years ago.

[@FinNews167]

I remember these books, didnt really like them much.

[@DaUziel]

I had all three books

[@lars1701again]

I loved that series and got it on audio book

[@newperve]

Other reasons humans made peace so easily was 1) They had practice at it. The political entities that combined to form the human federation had arranged more peace treaties than the rest of the galaxy combined. 2) The war aim of the First Human Interstellar War was to eliminate the danger of the Kalu-Kamzku. That danger was much less than originally thought, and was substantially reduced combining instead of fighting each other and the Kalu-Kamzku. Initial battles both reduced the danger and showed it to be much less previously thought. Continuing a war unnecessarily takes resources, and those resources might be needed in the next war.

[@samuelvitols8460]

"And those resources might be needed in the next war" Is the best part of that.

[@jamiepatterson1214]

That was really interesting. Most stories are from a human perspective, but rarely from an alien one. The alien perspective of humans, based on history, is right on the mark. The aliens would never understand the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[@eriolduterion8855]

One well remembered short story was about an alien cautioning his superior about humans - due to the story of the Billy Goats Gruff.

[@DrCuriensapprentice]

I liked the fascination that the “Alien” author has about Humanity, but also a level of unease that a species that looks so unthreatening by appearance can be extremely dangerous if you give them a reason to, like if you’re reading about Ted Bundy or Jeffery Dhamer

[@David_Baxendale]

I read an article on the most scary creature in fiction. One answer was, to other creatures on earth, we are. We are as relentless we are robust. We are as aggressive as we are revengeful and inturative. We have, for the most part, crawled our way, with few natural weapons, tooth and nail to the top of the chain. To animals on earth we are the terror in the night, we are the thing, the alien, the predator. We are the creature in the shadows, that makes the bump in the night, the creature they can't escape from. We are the stuff of nightmares...

[@brandonbowerstx]

Look up "endurance hunting" Humans are the meatbag versions of Terminators.

[@sognarisenheart7806]

Doves would beg to differ. Ans some other Animals too - to them we are more like the weired mamals that leave food laying around all the time. Must be confusing yet convinient for them.

[@David_Baxendale]

@@sognarisenheart7806 well, now and in certain places. Dogs are not eaten for food in some places. In those places we are the strange two legged things that take them for walks and feed them. In others where dogs are eaten, we are brutal butchers.....

[@arthurbriand2175]

They even say we kidnap animals and bred them to use against their own kind. We are rot and chaos, the corruption of the natural order.

[@matthewconner7800]

We are also the strange ones who come to the rescue of trapped animals that we could eat, that dive down storm drains to rescue ducklings, and that want to pet and give scritches to any animal that is remotely cute.

[@xrunner55]

If the aliens have wide eyes, greet them. If they have narrow eyes, run. One is a prey animal, the other is the hunter.

[@wstavis3135]

Tyger, Tyger burning bright....

[@rbrought]

Generally that is true. But deep sea fish with wide eyes can be hunters (along with various birds).

[@verdanteridium]

More accurate for mammals is this: Forward facing eyes means predator species Sideways facing eyes means prey species The other orders (like reptiles, birds, etc) likely have different guidelines for this. Important note for artist who make art of alien animals and/or monsters: break the above guidelines to make something alien. The ocean has plenty of examples of this, and we often describe the depth of the ocean as alien. Just to see why this is important: Skyrim's horses have forward facing eyes. This makes them a predator species, and explains why they look weird to some people.

[@bobbarclay316]

The hammerhead shark would be an exception. I can think of no others off hand.

[@BenjaminPitkin]

@@bobbarclay316 Actually, the hammerhead is an example of extreme bi-focal adaptation. The principle is essentially this: - Prey creatures, often only require a limited bifocal region in front of their mouth, and in their direction of travel. Their predominant optical requirement is for 360-degree vision to identify threats and provide physical security. Thus cows, horses, chickens, birds, and sheep - all have eyes on the sides of their heads. - Predator creatures, are essentially target-fixated. They require bi-focal vision to identify objects and provide depth perception over a limited forward-facing vista. As predators need to "physically interact" with target objects in front of them. Being target-fixated, they're generally less concerned with objects to their rear - and thus have peripheral vision limited to an angle of about 225 degrees. Essentially, they can't see what's behind. Now, bi-focal vision is improved as the eyes are brought further apart - and the hammerhead is an extreme version of this. That means it likely has EXCELLENT depth perception.

[@Fr0st1989]

reminds me of the awesome "We know you're out there and we're coming for you" story

[@georgecottell6616]

"The Gift of Mercy"

[@ralphacosta4726]

This is the real reason we haven't found any other intelligent species; they're hiding, hoping to not be noticed.

[@NRPax]

And they tell their children things like "Eat your vegetables and be good or the humans will find you."

[@xomox5316]

Its the theory on why killer whales do not mess with/eat humans no matter how hungry they are in the wild, they have the smarts to know just how deadly we are and killing one of us results in massive attacks. In captivity killers whales do sometimes attack humans also supporting the theory that the don't mess with humans 'rule' is taught in the wild.

[@Kartoffelmoses479]

Thats actually a real theory. Called "the dark forest theory". We haven't met any alien life forms, because everyone is hiding, to not risk a war and go extinct

[@covahdong6899]

When watching Aliens and Predator, I always had a question. What if Earth was a death world and we were the the ultra predators? Nice to see I'm not the only one with this thought.

[@DrgnLdyLizzie2001]

I always thought Predators were more ambush hunters. Once they lost the element of surprise, their size, strength, training and technology was a leg up for them but when that was equalized, they were taken out almost as easily as a human.

[@erikkennedy8725]

In some ways, we are. Our blood is acidic. We're capable of organized hunting and tactical thinking. And we have determination and incredible endurance- once we start going after something, we don't stop. It may run faster, but we will catch up when it tires and keep coming until it's too exhausted to run anymore.

[@andrewmalinowski6673]

Going based on "Alien Vs. Predator" Earth is akin to a training ground, the Unblooded Yaut'ja (Predators) come to Earth and use humans at an ancient pyramid to hunt and kill Xenomorphs birthed solely for the Yaut'ja to hone their skills. The Bad Blood from "Predator" gets taken out by soldiers because he wanted to fight something tougher than other prey

[@zzing]

This was a nice story. It kind of makes sense in a way the idea that non-predatory herd species are more often those that become intelligent.

[@greghight954]

It was eating meat and fat that allowed the human brain to evolve its size. Our brains require a huge amount of energy that is hard to get from foraging plant material. The most intelligent creatures on earth eat other creatures. Herd animals exist to eat all day and reproduce.

[@binibnladin]

Just a question. How? Since they won't care who dies and who gets to live. Maybe a mama protecting her young and that isn't always the case.

[@kleinjahr]

Speaker to Animals, "How much intelligence does it take to sneak up on a leaf"

[@darkhorse13golfgaming]

No it totally does not. Carnivores have to develop skills like planning and risk assessment while herd species just have to keep a lookout lol

[@stephenrowley4171]

Our intelligence is to make us better hunters.

[@unclelink]

"Unremarkable corner of the galaxy?!"😂 Sounds straight out of Hitchhiker's Guide! That's a compliment. Why does this make me feel proud? That's dark, man!😂

[@up.grayedd]

human here: did you guess by now our reason studying you? yeah - it is because you fucked up! those hawks must be awesome - we'll keep them as pets.

[@azram63]

Interesting to hear a story where the humans are the galactic badasses that aliens fear. Usually in sci fi, humans are portrayed as weaker both physically and mentally in comparison to an alien species.

[@leyrua]

Reminds me of a story where humans evolved in much higher gravity environments than most other species. The result was a degree of durability that made them functionally bullet-resistant against handheld weapons, because weapons had to be designed with zero recoil so that they wouldn't shatter the wielder's fragile arm bones. It also made humans extremely _short._ 😂 Imagine the indignity of having your arm ripped off by an iron midget after you have fired five repulsor blasts into him, giving him nothing more than a black eye.

[@Flesh_Wizard]

He may be two feet but he'll rip off your feet to gain another two😂

[@lateefpou2986]

That was fantastic. One of the best short stories side by wise I have ever beautifully written I love the perspective. I love the detail of humanity. From an alien's perspective I love the setting of the teacher teaching his students. The humor was fantastic. Just excellent thank you for this fabulous gift

[@psykorobot6807]

As this story started it made me want to reread the short story With Friends Like These by Alan Dean Foster. I imagine this is what humanity looked like eons before the With Friends... story begins, where humanity is now a mythic fierce warrior race (long lost in history after a great war its existence is based on legends) and now this human race is being sought out by a federation of aliens as the last chance to be saved from being taken over by the Yops.

[@charlesyates8228]

I thought of Alan Dean Fosters The Damned Series.

[@dskero]

Oh, I love that story. The ending when they took the moon with planet (because they are sorta nostalgic about it) is great.

[@nyxs1s266]

I really enjoyed this, it reminded me of an intro to another story which I can recall the name of. The other story was was of a human science vessel studying a star when a warrior race shows up and decides they are going to toy with and slowly microwave the humans in their unarmed vessel. They described the humans as primitive hairless apes, the scientists in their desperation modify their telescope to focus the light of the star they are studying on too the alien warship. It was at this point that they learned how proficient the primitive apes were at war.

[@hashirahmed5727]

What's the name man

[@nyxs1s266]

@@hashirahmed5727 Really wish I knew, been trying to find it again for years with no luck.

[@andmos1001]

Do you remember the author?

[@nyxs1s266]

@@andmos1001 I really wish I did, I think it "might" be one of the wing commander books?

[@andmos1001]

@@nyxs1s266 well, Google is there… so if you can remember quotes from the book, it can help tremendously

[@crazedvole]

Nice to see one where humans are not at a technological or physical disadvantage. Also nice to see that humans did not go on galaxy wide killing spree just because we had the advantage. (Which is probably what we would do in real life.)

[@davidhollenbeck9227]

Well have the humans found oil on one of the alien planets? If they did I am sure the Humans would bring FREEDOM to the aliens

[@azram63]

That very concept has been explored in the two Avatar movies. @@davidhollenbeck9227

[@rodneypayne4827]

Suffer not the Alien, Mutant and Heretic to live. Ave Imperitor!

[@jadedandbitter]

​@@frankfkling304Buddha clearly never met a cat.

[@dragnarok4286]

@@frankfkling304 So many animals do that not just humans. Dolphins are monsters but compared to us they are our equals in cruelty the only difference is we now have human and female rights they dont

[@michelelyons9410]

A wonderful story! What is interesting is that I can actually see this happening. An alien species would see humans as possibly weak because of the constant infighting----never realizing that the best way to bring humans together is to present them with a common enemy. And then humans stumble out into the galaxy to look around. I just loved this story, where Humanity is mad, bad and dangerous to know!

[@kevinmurphy65]

Fred Saberhagen's Berserker Wars had a similar take accept these were written in the 60's. The Campo, a peaceful alien race wanting to survive the extinction the Berserkers brought, sought a weapon to fight off the Berserkers, ultimate killing machines that make the Borg and the Terminators look like bunny rabbits...that weapon was the Human Race. In that Universe, humanity had just come out of a brutal internal war and were armed to the teeth so when the Berserkers arrived, it wasn't so easy for them. And I gotta say, if we ever do "get out there" we would be VERY dangerous.

[@seantrevathan3041]

Reminds me of the David Weber book Out of the Dark. An alien coalition sends "their worst" species to subdue humanity after being disgusted by viewing the Battle of Agincourt. No spoilers, but it doesn't go their way.

[@Vanjayel]

or one of his other titles: Excalibur. Fast galaxy-wide empire ruled by several ancient races that dominate all others. One faction kidnaps a army of earthling medieval knights to fight for their profitmargings (because "They" may not wage war on primitive civs so have to use other primitives to fight their wars for their profit). Fast forward a 1000+ years and Earth (now space-faring) wants to join the Galaxy. Earth is denied status, and faces extermination for the audacity to request status in the Galaxy............. ....... well ..... fire the torpedos and ram those Bugs........... it does not go well for the Galaxy Capo's🙂

[@magmat0585]

I remember that book, I really like Weber.. It was good, up until Dracula came out of nowhere, a bit more deus ex machina then most of his things

[@seantrevathan3041]

@@magmat0585 I didn't wanna mention the Dracula stuff for spoilers. But yea- where the hell did that even come from? Here I am reading nice little military scifi novel and we get Anne Rice stuff thrown in that completely pivots the story to the opposite end. Completely random.

[@seantrevathan3041]

@@magmat0585 If you want a solid alien invasion novel- Footfall by Larry Niven( of Ringworld fame). Probably one of the more believable in the genre.

[@ilyataytslin1934]

@@seantrevathan3041 Yes, unlike most David Weber stories, humans in "Out of the Dark" are distinctly outclassed. Then vampires make themselves known. "Fuck it, bloodbags, it is our planet too!"

[@orlevy3379]

This is one of the funniest stories I've heard, I've heard it several times already and I enjoy every moment, thank you for that from the bottom of my heart

[@MrStrikecentral]

"Why fight when the difference in power is already clear?" Do onto them before they do onto you. And he who fires first, wins! Besides, we LOVE an underdog story!

[@juliorodriguez4954]

Beautifully narrated story. It reminded me of Star Trek episode. Also would love to hear the human side of the story.

[@SammywiseG]

It would probably involve some kind of telling about the dismembering and disemboweling of a giant space cockroach that was about to incinerate a family by a recon marine while he was casually chewing on a crayon. 🙂

[@juliorodriguez4954]

@@SammywiseG Yeah you’re right.

[@NRPax]

@@SammywiseGFormer Marine here. Can confirm the accuracy of your sentence.

[@NRPax]

"Also would love to hear the human side of the story." Probably starts along the lines of "No shit, there we were..."

[@paulwarren9927]

@@SammywiseG 🤣🤣🤣

[@HawkGTboy]

This was great. I love science fiction stories where humans are NOT to be F’ed with.

[@robliptak93]

This was a fun listen! Found myself chuckling and had a smile at the end as well.

[@Ks3N]

I hope this has a sequel/full novel, the idea of humans being dangerous and incredibly complex which baffles the aliens that encounters them makes this story so unique compared to most alien sci-fi stories today. Kinda reminds me of a japanese manga I read a few years ago which humans are labeled as dangerous savages and all aliens branding the earth as a deathworld due to how incredibly dangerous it is to live ex: disease, natural disasters etc.

[@scifistories1977]

Check the playlist in the description. U/WRickWrites has a number of stories in this universe. All crackers!

[@Amenoxiel]

This is gold. Brutal, dark but also funny and light hearted. Well written and read.

[@ignatiuszoo]

I greatly enjoyed this. Good framing, interesting, and ends with an unexpected punchline. Most "big picture" analysis of humanity is either saccharine or despairing, but not this. A fair analysis, done well.

[@voradorhylden3410]

I like all these little concepts. Long enough to get your mind going but not too long as to stiffle imagination. 👌

[@PsychoticOrc]

I loved this story, would love to see novels based on this universe... very well written

[@scifistories1977]

The author (u/WRickWrites) has a whole playlist dedicated to his stories on my channel here: r/WRickWritesSciFi - Sci-Fi Stories: kzbin.info/aero/PLkBGMBYRr0mGfLtO633JFDuJd_dehSle- Most of his stories are set in the same universe.

[@Sami_J92]

That's wonderful. I'm not into sci-fi, but I can still appreciate the quality of the writing. I've been working on two books, one a fanfic and the other an original work, but I've been stuck for about three weeks now, probably due to laziness, haha... What I'm trying to say is, seeing how beautifully this was written has motivated me to keep writing and to create something impactful, so thank you.

[@allenr316]

Good story. I vaguely reminds me of another story I heard once about a species that would essentially wipe out any other species that committed any action deemed 'too egregious to be allowed to exist'. But any method they used on humans, the humans were able to outwit it... either through intellect or cold blooded practicality. Eventually the actions of the first species triggered the humans to attack all other known races in the galaxy in a holy war based on a fake religion they had introduced into human culture. The combined might of all other galactic races was able to defeat the 'holy human empire'... barely.

[@unusualbydefault]

Fake religion? This sounds like heresy brother

[@allenr316]

@@unusualbydefault 😅😅

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

Do you remember the name of that story?

[@samanthahawkins3436]

I’m glad the HFY stories are getting more attention through this medium, and the Ai does a fair job, but it isn’t perfect. It’s especially evident in a story such as this where different people speak. A little fine tuning, and it’ll be easier to tell who is speaking during the conversation.

[@gregcorwin8316]

If you enjoyed that, then I suggest that you might really enjoy "Old Man's War" series by John Scalzi, or Posleen war series by John Ringo. Some very obvious similarities between this piece and both series'.

[@lappesjl1]

Old Man's War was a great book.

[@gregcorwin8316]

@@lappesjl1 And it has four sequels (that I have read) that are also really good. The first two sequels are continuations of the original story arc.

[@F3n1x49]

I love the idea of this being "Old Man's War" from the perspective of the aliens. Don't mess with the humans dammit!

[@gregcorwin8316]

@@F3n1x49 It certainly has that feel

[@A.Saans304]

Could you imagine this being the reality of most sentient species? We've always imagined a more violent and deadly species that we basically have to overcome in a fair amount of science fiction. The thought that we are the more violent and deadly sentients among the other space fairing civilizations is a fascinating viewpoint. Fun story!

[@andrewsypniewski3403]

There is a snippet of something similar to this that I remember reading years ago, but I fail to recall what it was, so any help on this is appreciated: The story read much like this in the respect that it accounted how an aggressive alien species happened upon and subsequently attacked humanity. Perhaps the first battle(s) went the in the alien's favor. But VERY quickly, humanity showed its own aggression and began to counter and push back the invasion. Then, to the alien's panic, humans went on the offensive. The one piece that I can recall in some detail was told through the eyes or report of an alien and went something about like this: There was a moon or planetoid that was the site of an extremely violent conflict. Eventually, the defending humans were routed, and the aliens thought that they had secured the moon in its entirety. There was a powerful and hyper important factory/reactor on its surface. Just as a squad of them came into view of the structure, they found a note left behind by the retreating humans that read, "If we can't have it..." Then, the building detonated, and the entire planet went with it. The report ended with a plea for the alien's own species to either run from humanity or at least warn other civilizations of their folly, lest they be destroyed by a species who were so fixated on war that they would essentially self-destruct something so important of their own to prove a point. If *ANYBODY* has a name/link to this, please help a brotha out!

[@sparta2705]

That's fuckin badass

[@andrewsypniewski3403]

@@sparta2705 I thought so, myself!

[@smokinggnu6584]

Just a smaaaaal point of contention, we humans are Omnivores. We eat EVERYTHING.

[@flitsertheo]

Everything ? Don't even try to make me eat broccoli.

[@georgea5991]

>Artificial structures with human built, human sized openings. >Machines built by humans to transport humans. >Settlements and groupings of said structures near resource abundant areas and cultivation. >Advanced warrior technology. >Casualties. >Actual fucking space travel. >A fleet. >More casualties. "Intelligent" Invading Xenos Assessment: They _may_ be sentient. Perhaps we should talk 🤔🤷🏻‍♂ "Primitive" Human Response: Well, guess aliens are real. They aren't too tough, but they're the first ones we've met, and they look weird. They aren't too smart, but have cool looking shit. Let's talk 👍🏻🤷🏻‍♂

[@Nico6th]

What an interesting viewpoint! I greatly enjoyed listening to this story. Thank you!

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

Humans "Fight or Flight" Or, the other, "can we pack bond with that big creature over there" (Not in those exact words, but you get the idea) It looks cute, cootchie, cootchie, coo, you big fury beast! Who's a good boy?

[@flitsertheo]

Well, it worked a few times, so why not try with the big furry creature ?

[@stephenpickering8063]

Been reading some Human's are Space Orc stories elsewhere, which might be a reason why this turned up in my list of videos but this is quite a good one. One obvious error in that we're omnivores rather than canivors but otherwise looks into a possible basis for a "f**k its humans - run!!" type of background.

[@watchthe1369]

That was a nice little story. Ever read one of Ralts Bloodthorne's stories? Dark but hilarious that has a premise much like yours. Then there is a story written by Alan Dean Foster, a trilogy that has this as a basis too. they have the premise that humans are surprisingly lethal, but the reasons why vary.

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

Wasn't that in one of the two of Foster's short story collections? "With friends like these..." was one I think and "...who needs enemies?" was the second.

[@littleblackcat2273]

I remember reading that Alan Dean Foster trilogy, "The Damned", starting with "A call to arms" - it was light hearted, enjoyable and fun, but also stroked the egos of the humans who were meant to read it. :D

[@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233]

Also the online novel Curbstomp Wars - when medieval Hell invades modern Earth .. and Deathworlders have a similiar premise.

[@bobbarclay316]

I truly enjoyed the story, particularly since Ive been working for some years on a novel on just these topics. Now I have to worry about accidentally plagiarizing the ideas you planted in my head. Good job on a good story.

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

''lightly armed by human standards'' hmmm.. makes me suspect the few other ground engagements there was , played out sort of like the kam deploying what they considered city killer tanks or such stuff , only to find it matched by heavy ...scouts... followed by the actual heavy weapons or proper titan/mech direct combat units arriving to just sweep the whole fields clean of what ever the scouts not killed with indiscriminate mass destruction just to send a message through any survelance feeds of their foes.. aka ..ask us to negotiate ,while you still can.

[@edgarcastillo2804]

Hey class...behind this door i have some humans. Best troll moment hahaha. o7 to the writer

[@hoegild1]

This is a strange experience. I had the same idea for a sci-fi novel a few years back, but didnt write it down! I feel like som AI has hacked my brain, and copied my thoughts. Well written and well woiced, by the way.

[@Adactus]

I would totally buy any book that is based off this short story. This was amazing. I don't know why this was recommended to me but I am glad i found it. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@scifistories1977]

If you like this story, the author has written more stories in the same universe. Check this playlist for more: kzbin.info/aero/PLkBGMBYRr0mGfLtO633JFDuJd_dehSle- I'll be releasing another one of his stories in the next day or so.

[@Adactus]

Thank you!@@scifistories1977

[@IceFiction404]

Well written story, Thank you.

[@nesapanjalingam704]

Thank you 💙💚❤️ for all your effort & the time you put in when uploading this. It is really truly appreciated 🙏 You really made my day, you know 🙏🤗

[@jackfoxx6351]

The end was perfect

[@grimmlight4541]

I absolutely love this premise of humans. Would love a game when they were overpowered like this.

[@kevinwatts8221]

OMG! I laughed out loud several times... too funny.

[@Ice-yp4wg]

I really like how well put into consideration were the species' evolution towards civilization and how it affected their cultures and strategies in combat too.

[@ninjabearpress2574]

Humans are omnivores, far more dangerous, and the most dangerous of us are called Marines.

[@jiopaley]

Brilliant. Especially love the ending - make sure you get humans to fight for you.

[@1974rabj]

Just stumbled across this, and enjoyed it. Thank you for your efforts here :-)

[@scifistories1977]

It's a great story. I have lots more like this, so why not take a look around.

[@soumy1986]

I just discovered these today and I can't stop... Subscribed..

[@zenmollusc6128]

Loved this - it reminded me of that Arthur C. Clarke story "Rescue Party"

[@TimeMaster0]

always love how these stories describe us as carnivorous hunter gatherers when we are not carnivores but omnivores.

[@Kellethorn]

Bro, the premise for this story is actually amazing. Absolutely loved it.

[@jacobuponthestone9093]

This is really good work. I think so anyway. Seems a lot of other folks feel the same. The outside looking in perspective is a nice touch. I did about 4 years in the service myself. Not patting myself on the back but it does make me wonder how a race that hasnt been at war with itself for thousands of years would percieve us. The "never, ever harm a human juvenile" both resonates with me and reenforces my opinion ive always had. That people that do so are. Less than human. I actually felt a little pumped when i heard that.

[@toddsikes7292]

my favorite trope of humans in the galaxy, is that the aliens better hope we don't find them because we are crazy violent apes with guns.

[@robertpowell1464]

Its really a fun way of introspection on the human species and a fun flip of the common script for scifi.

[@lappesjl1]

Excellent story. Might make a good military sci-fi series.

[@garyschreiber8776]

Reminds me of several SciFi series by multiple authors. For example, there's The Damned Trilogy by Alan Dean Foster, The Uplift Series by David Brin, and The Freedom Series by Anne McCaffery, to name a few... I see, below, that @jkirschy mentioned The Damned series. Basically most of the universe is "too civilized" to the point that most races have an inability to tolerate combat, yet Earth excels at it. Most of those authors are fun to read and very enjoyable. Anne McCaffery is one of my favorite authors, who unfortunately passed away in 2011.

[@KomarBrolan]

Love this story. Hopefully the real sentient races are this thoughtful and peaceful.

[@Hallreaver]

This was really great, really great writing, it'd be awesome if there was more to the story :3

[@5wasthenumber]

Fun story, thanks!

[@darkforge633]

This was so good, I love it. This needs to be turned into a comic or something.

[@basilreid257]

Much applause I liked this a lot. Being seen from another point of view.

[@makisko02]

This is awesome..you should write an entire book

[@scifistories1977]

If you like that story, check out this same authors' other work. He has quite a few stories in this playlist. r/WRickWritesSciFi - Sci-Fi Stories: kzbin.info/aero/PLkBGMBYRr0mGfLtO633JFDuJd_dehSle-

[@mortengu1385]

Loved the story and the interesting angle where humans are discussed in a xeno-biological study!

[@JayJordanJuly]

Loved this short story!!!!

[@lvc394]

The cow has eyes for hay, the wolf has eye for prey. One is there for dinner and the other is buffet.

[@Chris-iv8sb]

amazing how this turned so many of our flaws into advantages when compared with other ecologically dominant sentient species.

[@rayairey5770]

That was worth reading.......are you thinking of expanding on this one?

[@scifistories1977]

I don't have plans to add to this story.

[@chemievideo]

u should start to make plans😂

[@nativeafroeurasian]

Love the perspective. Some notes to consider though: 1. There are more animals using some kind of "war" between them to find territorry and the like (e.g. shimpanses) (giraffes, elk, deer and many others fight too sometimes until death) 2. Crows for example use the outsmarting strategy against oponents too, especially when hiding food 3. Humans have predators too including tigers and bears. But interestingly enough the smallest creatures are the most dangerous to him (snakes, spiders, frogs) when venemous as they are hard to detect and hard to kill. So he does fear it the most (in terms of deadly fears; there are more fears ranging from things "just" resulting in unpleasent lives to the power of the unalive nature). Many can't comprehend the scale of infinities and therefor overestimate the times and sizes inside finities all the way to infinities and simultaniously underestimate the true scale of absolute infinity. So it would probably make for a good and long distraction. 4. Everything unknown will be seen as a threat (fear is extrem and will lead to extremes when the target is unknown (that's how all the horror concepts of ghosts, weird figures, etc came to be and why they usually arise at night and/or remote places when the real cause of a simple movement by wind is not perfectly obvious)) and once gotton under control will be controlled and used Edit 5: diseases are unlikely to kill all of humanity, or any species for that matter, as there's enough genetic veriety in a healthily sized population to always have at least a few individuals to be immune against it by nature

[@GoranXII]

A nice story, but I think it's unlikely that humans are the _only_ carnivorous species in the galaxy, at least, if the number of sentient species is more than a half-dozen or so.

[@justindunlap1235]

Right, especially since carnivorous animals on earth also form complex social structures, wolves and lions are perfect examples.

[@GoranXII]

@@justindunlap1235 Spotted hyenas moreso. But I was more thinking that most of the 'big brains' in the animal world will scavenge meat when they can, even if they don't actually engage in hunting.

[@AJPemberton]

You probably know, but humans are not carnivorous, our behaviours and instincts are not those of a carnivore. We can be aggressive, but so can many herbivores. The herbivorous aliens not having to adapt to the continual evolution of predator response as the story suggests - at least not until sentient hunters were encountered, would also be unlikely. That's not how evolution works. It's very unlikely that such species would never encounter intra-species conflict either. Limited space and resources would be almost a certainty on most planets.

[@GoranXII]

@@AJPemberton Me might not be *hypercarnivores* (>70% meat diet), but a good portion of us do at least fit as hypocarnivores (

[@AJPemberton]

@@GoranXII bit of a late reply, but to clearify: humans probably have always eaten meat. Scavenged or hunted. But our evolution was as primates - omnivores at best, not carnivores. More to the point, the story suggests our speed, aggression and strength were due to that mistaken belief that we are carnivores. This is not how evolution works here on Earth. Herbivores are just as fast and strong as predators, often more so. There is no reason to think other planets/aliens would be different in this regard.

[@draggador]

what amuses me the most that humans are unpredictable in general; humans are about as likely to help strangers & switch over to the side of their ex-enemies & ex-opponents as they're to betray & turn on their own ex-allies & ex-friends; irrespective of whatever they choose to do, they're also able to rationalize their actions extremely well & can provide convincing reasons which make their decisions seem sensible, despite the fact that it can all seem extremely random to anyone who doesn't actually have a stake in the entire thing

[@alfonszitterbacke318]

We are the WH40k Orcs? I like dat. More dakka, there is never enough. 🤤

[@TheAgamemnon911]

I really like this setting. The perspective is fresh and the worldbuilding is 10/10 and well researched. (the latter shines even better integrated into the story in "The Worst Species in The Galaxy", which you should totally search and watch next, if the algorithm hasn't recommended it already)

[@echo__plasma2343]

omnivores we are omnivores

[@m.t-thoughts8919]

Much, much worse as carnivores. I'm deeply offended by the tellers relativation

[@echo__plasma2343]

@@m.t-thoughts8919 then behold: We glow in the dark, but only slightly

[@DrVerseAlt]

To be fair, that mistake on the aliens’ part is brought up as a plot point in at least one of the other stories in this setting.

[@anonymousnearseattle2788]

I bet these giant lizard chickens are delicious too. But that's just my predatory human instincts.

[@johngellare3507]

Funny thing is, Humans aren't carnivores. We're omnivores. We eat meat, *because we like it*

[@flitsertheo]

We do need some of the nutrients provided by meat. That's why we are omnivores and not herbivores.

[@williamkirk1156]

I really enjoyed this story. I turned off the lights and listened just like when people used to listen to radio show. Thank you.