Debating Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life on Abortion

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[@GEN]

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[@neobridgey]

live laugh love bestie

[@allmigthygoddess939]

We should focus more on a|ready born children. We've been kinda neg|ecting those.

[@NorthernSpartan]

@@allmigthygoddess939 this!

[@mckaykriser4676]

If we're all for equality and opportunity and pro-choice, isn't abortion taking away that opportunity and choice from the unborn baby? And if that makes you feel like that takes away your choice to have an abortion, I understand. But the thing is you already chose 9 months ago when you had sex.

[@downrightdisturbed]

Doesn't the legal system require a document proving citizenship (i.e. Birth Certificate), so when does a baby become a human? At conception? or Separation from the mothers body? If we want to consider the fetus as a life, shouldn't we change the legal system to reflect that? or at least, debate on when a human life begins legally.

[@vaasmontenegro481]

''Vilifying the opposition is a lazy cop out to avoid conversation and critical thought" and that's a subscribe right there.

[@Parelf]

Same

[@kennys1wife]

YES! That's exactly what happened here! ❤️

[@jack-of-all-trades1234]

Jane Fonda went on The View and said that pro-life people should be murdered.

[@juocyjay5732]

Absolute w

[@killerkraut9179]

But the pro choicers are often creepy they compare unborn Babys with tumors and parasites ! That it one reason that i dont support them !

[@Jognquincyadams]

Love your style, Not arguing and keeping it without a bias, Something the government seems to need a lot more lol.

[@Unique_Monk]

actually, democracy isn't a great thing when it comes to stuff like this...for example, had the Germans had a democratic vote to go to war...kill the Jews/Poles etc., they would have won...would that have made it right ? of course not just like abortion...it's not a vote topic...its murder...what's to vote ?

[@LilBunny6077]

But you do realise murder is different from theft and pleasure? Both murder and theft are punishable and can't be normalised. So for someone to think it's OK to abort a baby is wrong and for someone to fornicate is also wrong. Abortion is wrong unless it's at the expense of the mother's life.

[@Jognquincyadams]

@@LilBunny6077 your the exact reason this world has a problem when somone says something even if its not what you disagree with you need to state your opinion without seeing the other side

[@LilBunny6077]

@@Jognquincyadams bro where did I disagree with someone?

[@lol-ot4pn]

@@LilBunny6077 eh abortion is ok if there is a way to make it a painless experience for the fetus. My stance comes from consequentialism. A baby that no one wants willingly being aborted by its own mother wont affect society in any way shape or form. That way there is no stale mate with opinions.

[@Courier-xl1gt]

"Pro-both" 💀 Made me laugh hard

[@arcturus4762]

I'm against both. I like the idea of controlling women's bodies (and men's too) and killing babies sounds like a ton of fun. So anti-choice and anti-life.

[@der-Dritte]

I am pro-both

[@vencedor1774]

@@der-Dritte how?? In ur opinion, should abortions be allowed or not?

[@der-Dritte]

@vencedor1774 I have listen to both conversations of the pro life and pro choice and I understand and agree with both, and I can't really choose a side bc of that

[@Mqpc]

@@vencedor1774 I'm pro both, from a philosophical standpoint, you should choose what you want to do with your own body. But, on the contrary, even if the baby is a clump of cells it cannot decide whether to live or not, and the mother is making this decision on her behalf. Fetuses' should also have the right to life as well IMO.

[@julesgoubert]

The world needs your videos in my opinion, we just need a way to make em see them

[@GEN]

best comment ive seen yet. Thanks for watching and supporting

[@anitachandra2030]

No it doesn't. He brings people who dehumanise me and believe that I shouldn't have my basic human rights and I'm supposed to be kind to them and listen to their point of view? Bore off.

[@julesgoubert]

@@anitachandra2030 Well if that's what you belief, good for you. In my opinion, in this video, he objectivly gives everyone the right to speak their mind, voice their opinion. By having different views on the topic in the video, he makes room for a conversation to be held about it without neglecting one side. That is what I think the world needs.

[@blendersplendor]

@@anitachandra2030 He addressed it in the video but being close minded is something that slows the process of understanding and finding some middle ground with the other side.

[@Mrrobot951]

The next video should be: should men have the right to opt-out of parenthood before the baby is born. I bet most women will say "NO"

[@KevinBrady253]

Keep doing this. It's great to see someone see the hypocrisy in both. These discussions need to have nuance, but many people just tend to tick the tribal boxes rather than understanding the actual arguments.

[@stuffynosepatrol]

@@jessy2465 *fetus

[@PeterTheRock-II]

@@stuffynosepatrol what the difference between a fetus and a baby?

[@stuffynosepatrol]

@@PeterTheRock-II a baby has been born. A fetus has not. That's the scientific definition.

[@stuffynosepatrol]

@@jessy2465 my hair is also human life but you aren't going to call me a murderer if I get a haircut :/ "Human life" isn't as precious as you think it is.

[@blendersplendor]

@@stuffynosepatrol The value of a human life is extremely subjective too.

[@origingaming5008]

"I want less people so the freeway opens up, lets kill these fetuses!" I swear everything that guy said was comedy gold

[@VincentE26]

😐

[@adam_wetton]

Lmfao ye he was too funny 💀. Its a shame so many people don't understand this kind of sarcasm these days

[@sleepn_on_me2473]

I am so for that. Bill burr shit

[@VincentE26]

@@adam_wetton it wasnt sarcasm he was for pro choice

[@wizardweeb3102]

@@VincentE26 they arent exclusive bro you are exactly who adam wetton is talking about

[@indeswma4904]

The lack of intellectual consistency on both sides is pretty amazing. Everyone you interviewed showed some sort of failure to understand the complexity of the issue, they had their stances and nothing is going to change that. It doesn’t help that our two political parties have taken these opinions on as standards of battle, it destroys the chance for fruitful conversation. Great video, thanks for doing what you do.

[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

Honestly as a pro choice person I would LOVE to hear a productive conversation including everyone where we discuss ways to help new parents and babies. Without criminalizing or forcing! Most people do not want an abortion, pregnancy is mostly preventable with proper sex Ed, and many people who are on the fence would happily keep the pregnancy if they had the financial support they need. I would like the conversation to include a team of gynecologists to prevent medical misinformation from ruining the discussion. The one thing that makes me upset about pro lifers is they very often use harmful misinformation.

[@Brisbae]

But you, o wise omniscient one, see all, know all and are all. Get off your high horse bro. We’re all ignorant in some way, it’s not ‘amazing’, it’s called being human. Don’t even try to tell me you are unbiased

[@hermitdelirus7065]

I agree with part of what you said, but we are talking about an edited video and generally they paint brief, oversimple responses to complex issues that can be talked for hours. Plus I didn't see that much a lack of intelectual consistency, specially with their stance on abortion side by side with vacc mandate. That comparison makes no sense and is a false dichotomy. They involve wildly different scenarions, on wild different answers and wildly different consequences. It baffles me that the woman said it's a "fair point".

[@blendersplendor]

@@Brisbae As unbiased as anyone is going to get in day and age.

[@larryc1616]

There is no both sides when it comes to abortion, global warming, guns, vaccines, LGBTQ, hate speech, green energy, fossil fuels, marriage equality, separation of church and state, racism, xenophobia, etc.... Teabaggers = American Taliban 👺🤡💩

[@TheSkyrimInquisitor]

I appreciate that you are showing both of the extremes. A middle ground should always be made, yet in USA it's two far sides in the game. Worst of all this dangerous mentality is spreading world wide....

[@nobodyelse7911]

@Gage King nope can I safely guarantee it's only USA that doesn't have a middle ground

[@dexasmoru8333]

I used to believe in the middle ground as well. But one side as made far to many concessions (the right) and ATM we are living in the lefts clown world. So I've been voting on the right to get BACK to the middle... I just hope the rights clown world won't follow.

[@gups4963]

@@dexasmoru8333 As a person on the right for my entire life, the truth is both parties are corrupt and need to be ended to get back to that point. The Right is only better because it isn't bat shit crazy

[@killerkraut9179]

But the left use to often salami tactics ! And they dont know borders !

[@ClosedDoor35]

I don't see why a middle ground should be made on this issue. Either abortion is wrong, in which case it should be banned, or it is ok, in which case no bans are necessary.

[@psychiomoth]

People need to understand that, it's okay to disagree, it's okay to have different opinions. I hate that nowadays, there are only one way to solve a problem otherwise, you're called many names simply because you disagree.

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

The cultist don´t believe in different opinions. You have to follow the fairytale book or else.

[@cawesome2934]

@@PROVOCATEURSK untrue

[@nate2759]

@@PROVOCATEURSK Wokeness is a cult and a fairytale book.

[@njfblh2]

Right is banning abortion. Left is saying do whatever u like. It’s okay to disagree but conservatives banning the other side from freedom to live their life is wrong

[@SynxSP]

​@@njfblh2 The problem is perspective. Right is not taking away freedom, from their perspective, they are protecting the freedoms of the unborn.

[@Waryfuls]

_no but seriously, some of these are kinda shocking to hear, how easily they shout these one-sided opinions... but hey they are opinions._

[@MagikRayne]

Isn’t it a battle of one side of opinions vs another? There’s no right or wrong answer.

[@williamchoi6561]

I’m astounded at your ability to ask controversial questions without starting a massive argument. Edit: I just got to the point with the massive argument😂 nevertheless still impressed

[@johnisaacfelipe6357]

why make a distinction and attribute value onto the concept of virginity then? Either you don't believe in it and therefore you don't judge people with virginity as a consideration or you believe in it and you judge people with virginity as a consideration

[@Frvnklin]

I definitely lost some brain cells listening to these people.. Wow 🇺🇸 Great vid tho aha you’re killing it!

[@GEN]

thanks for watching!

[@agcrazy721]

the last guy was spittin tho

[@Randomperson-if4hy]

@JohnJameson That’s because third world countries exist, they don’t have access to proper education. But this is America bro, we got free education (except college) yet we’re still dumber than a goldfish.

[@KINGPOOPS]

People who call themselves "empaths" are some of the most narcissistic people you'll ever encounter. Stay away from them.

[@jakarreh]

For me, the problem is not even the abortion, but the fact that such a big number of girls are getting pregnant without having what it takes to be a mother. It feels like having unprotected sex is more important than going to therapy nowadays. Hookup culture is the worst

[@bloodwargaming3662]

Again it's your opinion and i can't be forced to listen and obey to it .

[@jakarreh]

@@bloodwargaming3662 facts

[@randomdude3646]

i think this is actually the issue of responsibility, and accountability

[@brittanyv6594]

You think that rape victims, children should be "held accountable" for getting pregnant after a man ejaculates in them?

[@Dubbadizzo86]

@@brittanyv6594 Brittany, don't be a moron. We aren't talking about the .5% of cases here. Were talking about the 90+% of abortions that are elective. Get a clue.

[@mobiusdick6225]

@@brittanyv6594 Weak ass shit right here

[@HanselLeiderhosen]

@@brittanyv6594 so can we agree then that only rape victims can get abortions?

[@weego2585]

@@brittanyv6594 I don't even think he's referring to kids. Adult women don't have a right to abort their baby, the only way I'd say it may be ok is if the woman would die from the child.

[@benegmond6584]

When people say your questions are stupid, you already know just by asking something that these narcissists may pick up a hint of resistance and they dont like that.

[@peagames2002]

As one born and raised in Finland (I was going to get aborted by father's request but mother refused). I raised to believe and understand reasonings behind Finland's current abortion laws that are very strict. Abortion by process is really traumatizing experience not only to the woman, but the doctor doing it (no matter how 'professional' they are, they too are human), but then there is this other factor that comes in that would make Pro-Life very difficult to follow with: "Every baby must be saved." Due Chernobyl incident Finland has had increased case of possible deformities baby would have, some enough to consider abortion. I've heard from my mother of her cousin's stories of how they gave birth to babies that had no upper skull scalp and had no brain, only to live a few minutes. I believe abortion law is also considered mercy killing for those deformed babies, because their livelihood and independence is incredibly hard to achieve and they might live with constant internal physical pain and being unable to have any say to it. Chances are their life expectancy is less than 2 years old at best. I'm not talking about mild cases or aspergers or blindness, I'm talking about really serious deformities that are medically so difficult to repair, that the babies would end up either suffering after birth, become stillborn or become test subject for medicine study. The other reasons of course are rape, economic struggle and family planning restrictions (by partner's request for e.x. I think). It's though really discouraging to tell my opinion on this since both sides are so extreme. I understand that value of baby's life, it's important. But is it so important for us to try to make it outlive expectations with a disability that could make that child's life unbearable physically?

[@hajibaji2772]

Of course there are always exceptions but the only thing i disagree with is when a woman has sex and then aborts then again has sex and aborts like bro

[@belakthrillby]

@@hajibaji2772 Of course it's terrible when a woman is irresponsible like that. The trouble is that by trying to craft a law to stop those irresponsible women, often times women who truly need an abortion are prevented from getting one and forced to carry babies to term that might kill the mother or the baby itself may be stillborn or have severe life threatening deformities.

[@Justyoureaverageeverydaytroll]

Comment section… what about the fault of the man…. Did he do anything irresponsible? Asking for a friend …

[@starter0951]

Your opinion on pro life is manipulated. Health issues are always a concern rape is as well. Consent was already given in every other situation by the mother when she had sex

[@leahbourg6299]

@@Justyoureaverageeverydaytroll what exactly are you asking?

[@anakolarova930]

OF COURSE WHEN IS WOMEN IS DISCUSSABLE BUT IF MEN COULD GET PREGNANAT WOULD NEVER BE DEBADABLE

[@somewhatsurprisedpikachu2887]

Exactly!

[@asamabry]

fr. if men could get pregnant, it would be pro choice all the way

[@fallon-may0935]

If a man could be pregnant, being prolife would be the face of feminism

[@EdgeMaster556]

@@asamabry Still murder

[@foxymations69]

Well, thats a logical falacy cuz men cant get pregnat stupid 👎👎👎👎👎👎 -1,000,000 auora

[@stevekima8881]

If men could get pregnant, you know what the rule is gonna be. Thats all im saying

[@J_A]

Please elaborate.

[@Tredenix]

Feminists would already have outlawed it.

[@bogartmotomoto8222]

Choice to kill babies

[@funnygaming2672]

@@J_Agiving birth is dangerous and harmful even when it a success .i have permanent back problem and loss my gallbladder because i had a baby. Some just die or have others complication. If men could get pregnant it won't even be a question men would be prochoice by majority. I also got an abortion because I got rape/groom. Here in Canada rapist/groomer /pedophile can ask to be the LEGAL guardian/parent if you keep it! That mean you get stuck to have the groomer /rapist in your live and making another victim in the process if you keep it.. you just better off starting new and getting pregnant with your partner /husband and not been in danger anymore.

[@J_A]

@@funnygaming2672 I don't disagree with it being dangerous, even if we have gone a long way in making it a lot safer. I myself am pro-choice, so I think abortion should always be legal. However I don't think I agree with what Steve said, since if that was the case, then everything else would also be a lot different and it would be hard to predict what the laws would be.

[@Breiitz]

"Vilifying the opposition is a lazy cop out to avoid conversation."

[@Alynleia]

The guy that say "the gift of life" is creepy af, red flag all over his face. XD

[@someone-ql6pu]

he's a kid. he may grow and now life isn't white and black

[@mynuttyme]

I'm not American but I'd probably be on the red spectrum and yes I agree. He's scary.

[@Србомбоница86]

Abortions are creepy ,men that support abortions are creepy

[@CGrantMusic1]

Was hoping to learn about the two kinds of black people…👀

[@Diamond-db3fx]

same

[@asamabry]

seriously! 😭🤣

[@IsaiahBuchanan175]

dark and light skined

[@Caro.tito23]

If life begins at conception, so should child support.

[@Mo-fu9sm]

such an unintelligent argument: co-relating child support to life. By that logic if someone skips on child support, does that mean the children are now lifeless?

[@Caro.tito23]

@@Mo-fu9sm I clearly didn’t mean that, what are you on about. Just saying that the people saying life begins at conception should also be aware that men impregnating women should pay child support if they have no intention in being in the child’s life even before they’re born. If a woman has to carry to full term against their wishes, men should have to pay them for the needs and costs of pregnancy. “Does that mean the child is lifeless” no, stop making fantasy scenarios in your head to counter attack an argument. If they refuse to pay it then they’ll be sued lmfao, not that hard to figure it out is it?

[@Essy311]

Obviously.

[@Caro.tito23]

@@Essy311 seems like some people don’t think that way lol

[@lol-ot4pn]

@@Mo-fu9sm are you ok? lmao

[@TwinsFan22]

I’m incredibly pro-life and this video was incredibly informative and it was great to see the arguments of both sides

[@Tl-mh7gq]

It's so crazy that men shouldn't have equal say on women's bodies. But yet women have the same rights as men and they aren't even required to go to war.

[@TwinsFan22]

So true. Everyone says women are still oppressed but we have rights that men don’t have the privilege of having

[@Tl-mh7gq]

@Hannah but if I was say since you not a man and not required to go to war. You shouldn't vote or speak on men problems. It'll be a outcry. I'm glad you understand. Not to mention it take 2 to make a baby. So a man should have a input on his offspring that is mentally and physically going to affect his life based off the woman decision.

[@Beau83820]

@@Tl-mh7gq what does jobs have to do with autonomy?

[@Beau83820]

@@TwinsFan22 tell me all those rights then? Of we do have those right i havent experienced them yet, get off the internet and touch some grass

[@arizonarangershat3831]

“Contraception is not hard to come by” Unfortunately it is for a lot of people, and you can use contraception and still get pregnant.

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

I think they forget about rape...

[@jackmiehoff7530]

A person is always a person no matter what. It doesn’t matter how old you are or what happened to your parents.

[@dexasmoru8333]

What a joke. Gas stations are at every other corner and filled with condoms.

[@Fankas2000]

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Yeah, because soooooo many abortions are about rape and not about being young, dumb and full of come.

[@larsmisuma1241]

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 it’s less than 1% of abortions

[@EricRedbear]

Here's a question for both sides: "Are YOU willing to pay for it?" As in: If you're pro-life will YOU be willing to pay for the upbringing of an unwanted child? If you're pro-choice are YOU willing to pay for the medical procedures and any therapy for the "mother?"

[@awwwkitteh]

the cost for the abortion procedure and therapy is much less than raising a child until they're 18 years old. prochoice all the way. notice how prochoice includes prolife in that each individual has the right to choose. prochoice is inclusive, prolife is exclusionary.

[@WaylonMoone]

Yeah, Even if I’m NOT the father, I was there for my little sis when she had a kid, I TOOK CARE OF HER DAUGHTER AS MY OWN, literally some of my family members like my older sister still talks down to her saying she should work more KNOWING shes still young, literally 21, mind You shes a mom and shes saying this to her own blood to work harder. Idc if I’m not the father, I want that kid (My niece) to feel loved and to know she matters in a mans eye.

[@bogartmotomoto8222]

What about those who oppose human trafficking? Can we now oblige the citizen to rescue those victims on their own?

[@mattewclubb5882]

Or Mabey you should man up and help raise that baby instead of leaving it up to the pro life people

[@foxymations69]

@@mattewclubb5882 yeah bro man up its your kid does'nt matter how the baby was made.

[@PrivateMemo]

I feel I need to point out that I am firmly pro-choice before I say this; I don't think it was necessary to make fun of those pro-life people like that. Still a fun video. I'll consider subbing after watching a few more. They generally seem pretty good.

[@tylynnfiedler5547]

agreed. I'm pro-life and I think that there are people from both sides that need to be more respectful

[@viktorias63]

@@tylynnfiedler5547 as a pro life person o don't generally have respect for two kinds of people: 1. Pro aborts 2. Russian propaganda trolls Just can't

[@sylvanaalcidor2010]

The thing about pro life is that the is no middle ground. A life is a life. Regardless on the circumstances. Whether it has Down syndrome, or is conjoined twins. Whether it was conceived out of rape or one night stand. Whether the child is going to survive 2 weeks out of the womb or 20 years. It’s a life regardless. So if you believe that an abortion is needed for any of these circumstances I mentioned or any other ones than you aren’t pro life. You are pro choice. Because in certain situations you want the woman to have the choice of having an abortion which isn’t pro life at all. Now, when women are “allowed” to have those abortions is a completely separate topic. Pro life by pure definition is extreme and there is no middle ground. I wanted to speak on the religion aspect does that guy know that since he had pre marital sex that he just committed the same level of sin as a murder? Because by his own definition no sin is greater than the other.

[@calebgao6931]

stop radicalizing people, how can you call people "extreme" when you put one night stand and r*pe into the same category. This just doesn't add up, in addition I am pretty sure vast vast majority of the pro life would agree that "r*pe" is an exception in this topic.

[@sylvanaalcidor2010]

@@calebgao6931 pro life by pure definition is radical. It was always extreme bc who are we to say who was more deserving than the other? If you are pro life why are you picking one “life” over the other? Even if a women gets pregnant through rape by their definition it’s still a life. What makes this “life” any different or undeserving than a fetus from a one night stand? Pro life believes that a fetus is a life from conception so how the fetus was conceived shouldn’t matter bc now IT IS A LIFE! y’all don’t believe everyday women when they say they were raped so pro lifers logic wouldn’t actually work in our society

[@calebgao6931]

@@sylvanaalcidor2010 what makes a life through r*pe different than one night stand? One is totally avoidable one is not, why do I have to explain this simple 3rd grade concept to you? Life only matters if it's under your control.

[@XxANGELTEARxX8]

@@sylvanaalcidor2010 your argument doesn't stand up. I could sit and ask pro choicers who gave them the right to decide when a life should be kept and when it's discardable and seeing from all the videos on the matter, non of them can agree on a unified answer and a lot give an extremely ridiculous answer, which makes the rest of their argument NULL. Pro lifers are very clear that life begins at conception which mean it's sacred from that moment onwards. The moment that baby is forming, there's a life, and no person on the entire planet can judge a life worthy to keep or not. No one has that authority. Sure, a mother can decide whether or not to terminate her baby according to your laws, but that in NO WAY makes it a moral or a redeemable choice and ESPECIALLY if its made for pure convenience or selfish worries. If truly necessary, abortion should be kept as an option for actual DIAGNOSED severe medical compromisments and life threatening complications, but it should NEVER EVER be an option to eradicate certain babies just because they have certain issues or depending on whether the mother wants it or not. It's not a toy. It's not an object. It's a growing human being. There has to be boundaries and rules to an important issue like this, so as not to allow so many babies to be discarded for some futile, vain reason.

[@sylvanaalcidor2010]

@@XxANGELTEARxX8 this simply isn’t true. There is a pro lifer in my replies literally arguing with me against the logic you just said. I’m saying that pro lifers believe a life is a life. Whether it was out of rape or not. Whether it was out of incest or not. But their is a group of “pro lifers” that say they are pro life but say abortion is okay in cases of rape (which really isn’t pro life) and it you think that it’s a life no matter the circumstances you are the definition of pro life. And that’s what makes pro lifers extreme doesn’t matter how that fetus was conceived pro lifers still consider it a life. Which is radical and extreme. Pro choice takes into account how the child was conceived and what damage it does to a mothers physical AND mental health which pro lifers do not

[@GABRIELTRUJILLORielTru]

To the guy with the bottle in the paper bag. You're a champ, my guy 👏

[@SneakySteevy]

On 1 side it’s pro-life. What they want is clear, they want life. On the other side it’s pro-choice. Some of you would say that what they want is also clear. They want choice. Why would they want choice when the other option is pro-life? What is the remaining choice? Pro what? Why they want another choice to pick beside « life ». For me it’s clear. It’s not pro-life against pro-choice. It’s pro-life against pro-death.

[@issecret1]

Give me the pain, give me the suffering, as long as it's theoretical and can't actually happen to me.

[@kal2352]

That guy is so ridiculous. You can bet his opinion would shift 100% if it happened to someone in his family/friends.

[@shoukifong]

So privileged

[@sworddash2365]

I kinda feel like bro was talking about life in general. Pain and suffering for the sake of others is almost always worth it, and I think that's what he's saying. We'd all be better people if we were willing to sacrifice ourselves to help our society.

[@Owenthewhimsicalguy-ni4oo]

Exactly!!

[@arizonarangershat3831]

Thinking that sex is simply for reproduction at this point in history is insane. Sex has been about more than reproduction for awhile, and most people aren’t only having sex in hopes of conceiving.

[@boodledemic6430]

Obviously but when you go :0 what sex means I might get pregnant?? You’re plain stupid. Don’t want kids, don’t have sex

[@yussefduzdar2006]

The level of virtue signaling from that “brothers and sisters” dude is crazy😭😭

[@Србомбоница86]

Seriously???he is your issue

[@FreeRangeChiHuaHuas]

I adore that sarcastic guy there would never be a dull moment

[@jaelguest348]

he made me nauseous. I hope all that stuff he said was truly sarcastic cause if not he has a seriously devalued view of life. Kind of confirms the selfishness of my body my choice

[@Somebodyuprobsknow]

@@jaelguest348 facts

[@J_A]

@@jaelguest348 It was very obviously sarcastic and doesn't confirm anything. He might not have taken the subject seriously in this video, but it doesn't mean having the right to your own body isn't important.

[@xcele]

@@jaelguest348 it was sarcastic ….

[@rubenloedolff]

@@J_A No, a lot of it he seemed to have hidden some typ of truth or a jab at pro lifers. He was definitely meaning a lot of what he said hiding it behind the facade of a 'joke'.

[@greg407]

Great video, covering both sides. As expected when observing both opinions there’s always those selected few that just can’t stand having there views challenged.

[@6333.]

abortion is healthcare.

[@TheTopNotchOne]

How? I'm curious.

[@kenny6920]

6:27 is disturbing dude is sussy af

[@hopegrit1868]

bruh you are so amazing and an actual wise critical thinker!! most people nowadays have extreme self-rightious attitude on different issues when in reality that is the most foolish thing in the world. every generation thinks that they are smarter than the previous one and wiser than the one after them yet they are all the same. people need to read history and talk to people on both sides and spend just one hour thinking not being in their echo-chambers. thank you for this video. i am rooting for you ;)

[@GEN]

thanks for watching!! appreciate the support

[@frostydog860]

Nice work overall. But please don’t poke fun of your interviewees off camera. Not a good look if you’re aiming to be neutral.

[@hajibaji2772]

He made fun of both sides of ppl

[@user-md7uc5tx6b]

Imagine mocking the dude saddened by the fact that we've had around 70 million abortions since 1973. Not a good look, ngl.

[@rorogogos]

@@hajibaji2772 Other than the lady who blurred her face, not really. GEN made multiple edits and cuts specifically for making fun of the guy's religion or his beliefs. Same thing with calling the other religious guy a virgin (as an insult..? I don't even know why he felt the need to edit and include that into the video).

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

The religious would take our free will if they could.

[@roshanaiyer5888]

This channel is actually amazing to develop your view of the world and seeing all the different viewpoints you can have, it is a breath of fresh air to see someone talking about an issue, but from a firmly neutral standpoint. These are the types of things that challenge your viewpoint in a healthy way, and is the solution to the radicalizations of the left and right.

[@JoanieBean]

Hot take: Yes, it's a life. But the life of the mother is more important. There is a reason the mother's life is always the priority during crisis situations. The potential life does not supersede the already existing life. And all of us, to be alive, something had to die. The cow, the chicken, even the grass or plant you ate. And life isnt just merely about existing, quality of life also matters a great deal. I would rather not have been born than have to live life as an orphan with no loving family. Or worse, born to parents who did not want me and do not love me. Y would any logical person bring a life into the world they cannot support in any aspect? Abortion is a necessity. Life is not intrinsically valuable, it honestly depends on the circumstances of that life.

[@S91761]

"But the life of the mother is more important". If the mother's life is at risk, then it should be debatable. "Abortion is a necessity". No, contraceptives is a necessity. woman have 10+ contraceptives and can demand the man to wear a condom. Any person with a brain can add those effectiveness % rate and it would prevent abortion. Abortion is not a solution, because people will still remain useless and keep making poor choices. Why then can't we abort those grown people who can't even do a simple task, like not having a baby. Wouldn't it be better for society? to have only people who can think before they act? Responsible people is a also a necessity. Think about it. If abortion is a necessity because it solves so many problems, getting rid of people who creates those problems is also a necessity.

[@Draglox]

I'm confused as to how a mother not choosing to abort her child will affect the mother's life? I understand there could be some complications, but from what I've heard, they are very rare

[@WeebSlayer71]

​@@Draglox There are cases where the mother can die from pregnancy. Example: Women with hindering conditions get pregnant and... well, there are times where the mother dies from birth. Doctors now are able to determine such thing before birth though.

[@JoanieBean]

@@Draglox in so many ways. And not just dire like life or death. Financially. Even is she plans to give up the kid she is still responsible for the pregnancy and it's cost. Not to mention the impact on her personal and professional life due to pregnancy. Emotional. Having a kid u don't want is brutal. Pregnancy is horrible enough as it is. I can't imagine also not wanting the child and how it would fuck with one's mind and mental. Physical. Pregnancy is HORRIBLE. Some women like it others hate it. It changes ur foot size, u can get diabetes/so many life threatening conditions. U know a lot of fist time mother's are cut? (As in they are cut from vagina to asshole to make space for the kids big ass head lol). And so many more things that are temporary and others that alter ur body forever.

[@Draglox]

@@lvelylilies Well she is really just facing the consequences of her actions, isnt she?

[@ktmal1681]

Argument 1: A baby/ fetus is a person. They will become a person. - The biggest issue with Pro-Lifers is that they are valuing the possible life of a human over the actual pre-existing life of a human. A fetus is not yet a person, they are not yet born, they are not yet sentient, they are not yet anything other then a parasite. The women however, is in fact a person, she is in fact sentient, and she is not actively parasitizing another organism. (que the smart asses in the comments to make a joke about this). Argument 2: But you could be killing the next Einstein or Mother Teresa. - What Pro-Lifers are doing is protecting what could be (baby) at the expense of what already is (person). If you want to argue that the possibility of a person being born and adding good people to the world should be the reason to outlaw abortion, then the invers argument can be made that the possibility of a baby being born a bad person is why abortion should be allowed. Argument 3: They chose to have sex so they should live with the consequences. - Oh boy this is a long one....... Driving is a very dangerous activity and many people end up in the hospital from accidents. Should people who were driving in a car be denied blood or organ transfusions because they did something that had a obvious possible consequence? Because that blood an those organs could have gone to someone who didn't do something risky and thus, the person who got into the crash is affecting another life; possibly causing their death because they got the blood and organs instead. - What about people who did all the right things and yet their partner purposely broke the condom? That is a surprisingly common thing that happens and yet you expect the women to keep the child because someone else did something slimy? Or, sometimes the contraception just simply breaks at no ones fault.... what about then when they are taking all the precautions and still have an accident? - What about those who are no longer healthy enough to carry their child or financially able to handle the pregnancy and subsequent child? You are forcing them to A) keep the child and possibly die, have the child die, or be unable to provide a healthy home environment for them. Or B) get rid of the child into a foster care system that is riddled with abuse, neglect, and trauma. Not to mention the shear number of children waiting for a family but end up aging out of the system and are just pushed out onto the street. both options are actively choosing to force a child and their parents to live a horrible life when instead they could have experienced none of this pain by just not being born. Argument 4: God gave you that life and you threw it away. - Well, i don't really much care about what god values or not. Because if god truly cared about life and he truly wanted that baby to be born then he wouldn't turn around and give thousands of other children cancer and terminal illnesses. I have a joke for you: What gives kids cancer more then smoking? well the answer is god.... what a nice guy! Also assuming he is real which he is not. Argument 5: Life begins at conception. - What are you defining "Life" as? Because if you are just talking about a living organism instead of inorganic material then there is some bacteria that would like to speak to you. In fact, the sperm in your testes and the RBCs flushed out during every period would also like to talk to you. If you are talking about complex organisms then...... there are some plants that would like to talk to you when you just chop them up or rip them out of the ground. If you are talking about sentients then.... well.... a dog is sentient but a fetus (when it is aborted) is not sentient. So again, what do you mean when you say "life"? Argument 6: Sex is not meant to be fun. - Then why have we evolved tissue that specifically evokes a pleasurable sensation? Because the action is meant to be used for either, fun or reproduction. Argument 7: It is murder. - Is it now? Well lets see here........ we kill people (and allow people to be killed) all the time even though their heart is beating and they are still technically alive. People in comas, people who are mentally dead, people who are denied housing and free health care, people who are denied entry into the country from their war stricken home, murderers who are released from prisons because there is no more space, murderers who are not convicted based on technicalities, people with mental illnesses are allowed to keep their children, people who are abusive are allowed to keep their fosters, priests who rape children causing them to kill themselves are just moved to another church..... shall i continue because i do have many more examples? Argument 8: Men shouldn't have a say. - Screw off with your fake equalist rights nonsense. Women who think men should not get to speak on these topics are the same ones who slap men freely and then cry if the guy slaps them back. This whole "men shouldn't have an opinion" is exactly like saying muslims should not be allowed to say anything about christians or the religion. - That being said, no.... men should not have a say when it comes to the individual women's right to have an abortion. As in, if a couple get pregnant, the guy should be allowed to say if he does or does not want the baby but he should not have control over if the baby is or is not aborted. On that same vein, if the women wants the child and the man does not, he should not be forced to pay child support if they were to split up; though this should be written up in a contract to protect all parties. Argument 9: Do you support Mandatory Vaccines? - Mmm........ No.......................................................................................................................................... And yes. No i do not support mandatory vaccines that have not been tested and studied for at least a year or so. That being said, well know childhood vaccines that have been successful for years in maintaining the health of children, yes.... those should be mandatory. This is because there is a difference between the possible life and health of an unfeeling fetus and the actual living, breathing, conscious child that can feel pain and illness. But ultimately this question has nothing to do with abortion laws. A vaccine is vastly different then one single fetus/ clump of cells. A vaccine potentially affects anywhere between 1 person to 1 million people while an abortion truly only affects two people, the women and the fetus. You can argue the father is involved but they should not be affected because... it is not a person!!!!!!!! and if you are already attached to this thing or the idea of this thing, you have a problem. Argument 10: Should foster be prioritized over Abortion? - This is the same issue as whether or not immigrants should be allowed into a country or not. i know, i know.... but bare with me. How does it make sense for a country to take on an additional burden of people and provide housing, food, and health care to these people while the people who are already in the country don't have access to these things? It's like (to make a train of analogies) rescuing people from the ocean and bringing them onto a boat, then ones the boat is filled you just dump the people already on so that you can go to the next group of people and bring them onto the boat, and so on and so on. With abortion and the foster system, why are we arguing about whether we should control and force people to have kids while there are thousands of children in the foster system who will never have a family and end up aging out of the system? It makes no sense. That being said, even if the foster system was fixed up and whipped into shape, abortion still should not be outlawed; though the case against abortion would be stronger if that happened.

[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

Well written. I agree 100%. Another aspect is how we regulate organ donation. Someone has to sign up before they can take organs from their dead corpse. Makes no sense thad a corpse has more rights than a pregnant person.

[@rorogogos]

I don't think you really needed to mock the religious guys or the people who hadn't had sex. I feel like that's more ad hominem than actual debate. Especially considering you didn't do the same for anybody else (other than the interview we never got to see due to the woman asking for the blur, but I'm assuming you were just mocking them for acting that way, rather than their actual beliefs).

[@foxi708]

My birth father wanted me to be aborted. My mother decided to give me up for adoption. I was very fortunate to get adopted from birth. My half-sister spent a majority of her life in the system because she wasn't given up right away. The system is mostly awful, and to just say "give the baby up for adoption" ignores that. Many people who tell people to give their babies up for adoption have never and will never adopt. There are so many children that are born and just shoved into the system because their parents don't want them, and there aren't enough people adopting and fostering. There are also medical cases that are often ignored. There was supposed to be a sibling in between me and my half-sister, my birth mother had complications and had to abort. Because my birth mother did that I eventually got to meet her and my half-sister. If she had decided to try and carry it is very likely I wouldn't have met any of my birth family. I wouldn't have known the difference had I been aborted, and that is ok with me. I'm thankful for the life I have but I recognize that it was never my decision to be conceived or born.

[@EdgeMaster556]

so you would rather be killed than alive?

[@pedrogomespg.5882]

…. Remember you are only saying this because you were adopted + not killed. Remember youll lay down on your pillow every night knowing you weren’t aborted

[@sethswaggerty3928]

You have a refreshing approach and a gentle/humorous demeanor. Hope to run into you on the streets one day.

[@en2p187]

i agree i can't believe i stumbled on this guy what quality content!!

[@privatename2426]

This is a great video! I am pro-life (unless it's rape, or to protect the mother). I know it's a hard decision for some women to get an abortion but I have seen many who are proud of it. And who keep getting them. It's really disturbing how many repeat abortions there are. In the state of Florida they make you answer some questions before the procedure. I believe it was from 2017 stats that 75% of all women listed no reason or their abortion. The choices were rape, socio-economic reasons, health (I don't remember if there were more reasons). That's an absurd amount of abortion -- procedure that indisputable ends a growing human--to happen for no dire reason.

[@CyberDavid2413]

Deuteronomy 24:16 New International Version Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.

[@im7224]

They use murder as their form of birth control. Birth control comes before, not after the pregnancy. It's too late to think about it after the fact. When the government allows the systemic murder of living human beings from the womb and MOTHERS hold signs saying murder is their right, no one has to wonder why the value of life is diminishing.

[@CyberDavid2413]

@@im7224 we must teach and pray for the individuals making this independent decision.

[@dougdimmadomeownerofthedim2918]

Maybe, just maybe they don't feel comfortable sharing their personal reasons for anyone to see. And most women who get an abortion have not done so before and just an FYI 88% of active women used birth control. Can't recall the exact portion but there are a handful who practice abstinence.

[@privatename2426]

@@dougdimmadomeownerofthedim2918 This is an anonymous questionnaire. There is absolutely no reason to not tell the truth.

[@cecilhumphries921]

"There's 2 types of black people" lmfao 🤣 this sent me.

[@SahilSharma-ug7xv]

I don't think a baby should be considered alive until it gets out of womb and it happened due to an accident.people who eat meat all the time should not be one questioning women's right of abortion.its more harder on her.

[@blabiourrt]

I'm a pro-life teenage girl. I think that many people don't really understand how abortion works and what happens in the procedure, and abortion clinics should always do a 3-D ultrasound and show a video of the process before actually doing it. Countless women regret their abortions. The people that said abortion is ok a week before birth but not after - when does life start? Is it when a baby can live "independently"? People on life support can't live independently so does that mean we should pull the plug? The only difference between a baby in the womb and a baby who was just born is the umbilical cord, or feeding tube, being disconnected, and the switch from breathing through the placenta to breathing through their lungs. That's why they cry when they're born.

[@minetime6881]

0:20 Thank you! There needs to be more people trying to facilitate real genuine conversation rather than just constant screaming

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

Mr. Religious at the end, you will be with more than 100 billion humans in heaven for eternity. You don´t even understand the book, don´t tell others what to do.

[@jedsgee4784]

Really well done bro. I am very much on the pro life side but I really appreciate that you talk to both sides and actually use questions/arguments that the other side would use in a really chill way.

[@anthonyfloyd2662]

The woman that was raped , the woman that was molested by their father didn't have a choice, just like if you abort a child that child didn't have a choose either put in the midst of it all God has a plan in the midst of our bad decision making I'm Jesus name Amen

[@joaopeixoto6224]

The right to life is a human right so the right to abortion can't be a right because you're denying a right and the human rights shouldn't contradict themselves

[@CaptivePuppet]

I had an abortion. I’m pro choice, but it definitely is murder. I couldn’t be pregnant for my own mental health. It was too dangerous and I am by myself with a toddler. I had to mourn the death of the baby I killed. I will live with this forever. But I don’t regret it. I was heavily affected by the hormones and I couldn’t be present for my toddler. Suicide was a constant temptation. Everyone has their own challenges in life and we should practice compassion because we have no idea what those people are going through.

[@Almogit]

this only shows that life isn't black or white... you made a difficult choice but it was the right one for you, and you still acknowledge that the baby could have had a life, but again this is complicated and having a baby cant be a rushed thing, carrying one isn't so fun either. stay strong !!!!

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

Murder is the UNLAWFUL, premeditated killing of another person. Abortion isn’t unlawful in most places, and shouldn’t be unlawful, ergo, abortion isn’t murder.

[@CaptivePuppet]

@@ZacksRockingLifestyle Hmm, while I appreciate your definition, the law doesn’t determine the emotional impact of an action. I think it’s important to see the act for what it is, not based on lawfulness. I still believe it should remain legal, but saying it’s not murder dehumanizes the life of the baby as if it was nothing but a medical procedure. Sometimes the definition and accuracy of a word is less important than the emotional impact it has in describing what we experience. In this case, calling abortion murder feels accurate to my feelings of what happened. I’m owning up to what I did while respecting the life of the baby I lost. You can put labels on anything, but those labels can easily block out emotion and become blindfolds to the truth.

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

@@CaptivePuppet (edit: do you just not know the difference between different types of homicide: such as manslaughter, murder, euthanasia, capital punishment, war, and justifiables?) okay, PUPPET. Take feelings over facts. Abortion is murder. Okay! Did you know that freedom is slavery? War is peace. Puberty blockers are completely safe, effective, and reversible.

[@kingstonmoop9518]

@@ZacksRockingLifestyleare u stupid how is killing a pregnant womens baby not murder. your saying that it is ok to rip that babys skull in half with scissors ok then sucking its brains out. or to rip it limb from limb. search up kermit gosnell victims and scroll a little and youll find a fouty week old child that was aborted and tell me thats not murder

[@morningcoffee2471]

It’s more men than women who thinks women doesn’t have the right to abortion. That speaks volume about the lack of empathy to women and selfishness of men. This doesn’t mean abortion is always ok. There needs to be a case-by-case judgement of who deserves abortion. However, the one biologically carrying the baby and facing all the biological risks of child bearing should have a bigger say (not necessarily a complete say; it depends on the circumstance).

[@Essy311]

Most people in America, regardless of sex, believe that abortion should be restricted at some point prior to birth. Gallop has decades of poll data on this.

[@morningcoffee2471]

@@Essy311 Define "at some point". I depends on the individual cases at the end of the day.

[@Essy311]

@@morningcoffee2471 Not really. Polling data from Gallup (which has taken this polls for decades) shows that while a majority of Americans believe that abortion should be legal in the 1st trimester, only 36% of American believe it should be generally legal after that. So, if you want a definition for "at some point," it would be after 12 weeks.

[@morningcoffee2471]

@@Essy311 If a child is raped and got pregnant, and doesn't know she is pregnant until the third trimester, do you want to look get her case as a stand alone or use your statistics to judge if she needed an abortion?

[@Essy311]

@@morningcoffee2471 well, what do the statistics say? You are the one that brought up statistics by claiming that men support life more than women.

[@thethikboy]

safe abortion is a contradiction in terms. Like safe murder.

[@pikelboi9674]

It’s a HUGE moral grey area. Yes I think it should be available, but it’s not like people who get abortions are all “yeah, I felt a bit sick and it turns out I’m preggo so I’m on my way to pop that little bugger”. It’s hard on them too and it doesn’t help when you scream “GOD HATES YOU”

[@annieh.5049]

i don’t think it’s a morally gray issue, but is gray in the sense of freedoms, control, & different circumstances

[@JuiciestEva]

I am pro choice BUT saying life starts when they come out of the womb is theoretically and morally wrong. A full term baby in the womb and a baby just born have both the same level of development and capacities (they feel, hear and think) so if you terminate a full term baby it IS infanticide. Putting the needs of the mother before the baby is morally wrong and selfish. Then you would be making the statement that it would be legitimate for people like Casey Anthony to murder their children because they simply do not wish to be mothers anymore ? For me 23 weeks is the ultimate limit for a pregnancy termination as we know that by that time the baby is fully formed, can react to noise, can see and is viable if born (although very premature).

[@Lost_Hwasal]

I wish you hadn't mocked that dude, it undermines your credibility and the credibility of people that are pro choice. Its not the way bro and you literally segway into "villifying the opposition" is bad.

[@GEN]

thanks for watching! definitely fair point + feedback - my aim was to actually poke fun at both sides evenly as you saw at the end of the video. I believe comedy is usually the best way to accomplish that.

[@axelmartinez9]

In my opinion he was definitely mocking the pro-life people a lot more. The guy was making a valid point about the 60 million abortions.

[@bbbbbbb51]

@@axelmartinez9 he's making a somewhat valid point, but his moral posturing is hilarious.

[@vivigoddess4453]

@@axelmartinez9 no he wasn't. What about his 66 million living brothers and sisters? He doesn't care about them. Millions of kids get sex trafficked, sold to pedophiles for drugs, lives on the street, having to make a living, by selling their bodies to creeps or has to watch out for creeps, because they don't have anyone to protect them. Small children taking drugs, because they cannot bear to exist, children having to work in mines, to retrieve crystals, to make your iPhone. Having to watch their friends die, because the mine collapsed. Getting beaten, and the list goes on and on. How about we fucking focus on the living millions of kids, that goes through hell, instead of being focused on bringing more into life, when we clearly don't give a fuck about the babies, after they're born.

[@mantabsekali920]

@@axelmartinez9 60 Millions of what exactly tho? 60 millions burden of taxpayer hahaha

[@satanicconservative1855]

This is one of those issues where i believe you shouldn't have an absolutist perspective. Both sides need to hear out the other side and we need to come to a balanced agreement.

[@TejasHullur]

learned a lot, great video!

[@GEN]

thanks fam

[@javierdelgado1087]

Men shouldn’t have a stance, they can’t choose to keep the child… and they can’t choose to have the mother abort the child, yet they can be held to pay child support if the mother chooses to keep the child even if the Father doesn’t want to? The lack of consistency is wild, the child isn’t viable or a human if aborted willingly but if a drunk driver crashes into a pregnant woman it’s double homicide… the value of the fetus is based in the development? Soo people that are born with developmental delays are less valuable? If they are only humans if they are wanted then orphans that are abandoned by their parents are less human? Such hypocrisy in the logic…. A human is a human even in its earliest stage of development. We don’t get to decide what to do with someone else’s life. Their DNA is unique and different to the mother’s making them their own person.

[@tmad-UwU]

Fax

[@zachulatowski4399]

pro choice question for pro lifes you say its killing a human, what if the mother dies from the baby? you know mother still has a whole life and the fetus never had a breath of air pro life question for pro choice if you can kill babies bc their not alive then can you kill a person on life support?

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[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

Pro choice here: yes you can kill a person on life support, that is no way to live. When a person cannot physically or mentally advocate for themselves then family or doctors can step in and figure out what is best for the patient. Are they even conscious? Any chance of recovery? We need death with dignity in this country. When it comes to our society we talk big about how great life is, how we must protect it, etc. But the people who have actually experienced the worst life has to offer, we know how bad it can be and we will always advocate for those who are suffering. People do not consent to life. They should be able to choose to humane death.

[@zachulatowski4399]

@@MyDuckSaysFucc then if you can kill a person on life support then why cant you kill a fetus that has no human features

[@zachulatowski4399]

Fetuses cant physical or mentally advocate for themselves and the mothers life and trauma is on the line so shouldnt the mother have the choice

[@rubenloedolff]

@@MyDuckSaysFucc If we know someone will wake up from a coma in 9 months it is immoral to murder them.

[@sethoakes3795]

Didn’t care for making fun of the passionate guy. Continuing life despite suffering is the most honorable thing a person can do. Someone in a wheelchair playing sports. Someone morbidly obese losing a ton of weight. And yes, a scared girl who finds out she’s pregnant, wrong or right, and overcomes fear to arrive at the decision that it is wrong to kill the child, and to bear the weight of the responsibility. Those people are called mothers and I fucking love mine.

[@RabiezDeWorgen]

Forgot the hardest question: Sacrifice the fetus to save the mother's life or sacrifice the mother to save/risk the fetus's life? There's a few medical instances where the mother is left to die in states that have banned abortion. Doctors refuse to sacrifice their jobs/freedom(jail-time) in order to save lives. It's a hard decision for them to make.

[@johnisaacfelipe6357]

I think a valid discussion can be had for therapeutic abortions (abortions done if childbirth is life threatening to the mother)

[@rorogogos]

@@johnisaacfelipe6357 I believe in every state (even texas which has really extreme abortion laws), abortions are allowed if they endanger the life of the mother.

[@johnisaacfelipe6357]

​@@rorogogos extreme? no, it is proper, the extreme is that we allow elective abortions at all (ie abortions done without a fatalistic cause)

[@rorogogos]

@@johnisaacfelipe6357 I was just meaning extreme as in the literal definition of extreme. It is the highest degree of that form of law. I also think that Texas' laws are fair and I support abortions only in cases of the pregnancy endangering the mother.

[@vimalpatra1440]

I love the choice of your topics and your storytelling style dude! I've watched the video on transgender woman in women's sports and even though I am an Ally, I did think that there needs to be definitely many rules for each sport and your video was very good, especially because I love to hear different perspectives and I'm sure many many other people do as well and it's part of us being more inclusive. Also, watched the video on love.. Gonna watch this too now, Really love the choice of your topics and interested to see what else you bring forward. Already subscribed and a fan who's not biased to any one side but curious to learn and empathic as well! Great job, You are what is needed for The Next Gen! ; )

[@ShawnaSanders-sn4ce]

Whether a baby is in a body it’s still a life. It’s murder, it’s evil and u had a choice to not get involved in the activity to create that life. Theres no excuse. Don’t involve in the activity or tie ur tubes!

[@nobodyname]

interesting video, def need more room for conversation today. thought the parts where u laugh at that one pro-life guy kinda didn't fit the unbiased approach of the rest of the video. keep it up!

[@GEN]

thanks for watching! That's fair feedback, I think I did poke fun at both sides though. And I think it's impossible to be completely unbiased but I try. Thanks again for watching!!

[@yolocomics5468]

@@GEN I'm not entirely sure why you were laughing, I agree with that and I know of a victim of sexual trafficking who says that about her life as well, do you mind elaborating on that?

[@butterygold]

Nice point although this subject requires thinking and asking philosophical questions no one wants to ask. I can't have sympathy for pro-choice people who don't think at all; they are not trying to open debate, they are demanding a right and an exemption.

[@amomentsglance6930]

There's literally no debate to be had this isn't some opinion on what kind of cake flavor is the best

[@butterygold]

@@amomentsglance6930 that's correct, abortion is not a right, there's no constitutional right and no legal exemption from murder.

[@amomentsglance6930]

@@butterygold you have no business or right to tell people what to do with their bodies it's called mind your own fucking business if it was actually about preserving life We'd have universal child care a better foster system ya'll don't care about what happens after

[@butterygold]

@@amomentsglance6930 you can do what you like in this life but you cannot avoid the consequences, if not criminal, the guilt will forever be on your* conscience, not mine.

[@mkl85495]

@@amomentsglance6930 stop grouping people, u have no idea what they do or don't support, but the murder of an INNOCENT human being is wrong with no exception.

[@aegishdaego]

To me it should be a choice, cause choice's opportunity is needed for wisdom to be learnt. Therefore blaming the choice instead of the education of thoses old kids isn't the good thing to do imo. Hope you got my point despite my mediocre english

[@Dubbadizzo86]

You do have a choice. You have a choice to use contraception. You have a choice not to have sex. You don't get a choice to kill a child. Christ.

[@ghosteii]

@@Dubbadizzo86 rape exists yk..?

[@Dubbadizzo86]

@@ghosteii Yeah, and they're like .5% of abortions, yk? Using rape as the bedrock of your position is fucking stupid.

[@aegishdaego]

@@Dubbadizzo86 I know i will look stupid but sometime contraception just doesn't work, even tho you used it properly. You can use a condom and the morning after pill but if you are very unlucky your wife can get pregnant anyway, and when thats the case why shouldn't turn to the abortion especially if we do this before the 4th week. ( yeah after that it become ugly to do so ) But yeah, we kill something that isn't even conscious, if it bother you so much to kill anything, why do you (probably) kill the mosquito that get in your bedroom, or even let the peoples eat so much meat that got provided thanks to the death of thousands of conscious animals. You can say that the choice to have sex and so the risk that follows it was taken and thats a valid point. But dont try to merge all the cases of abortions in the same bag, sometime it can be necessary, rarely but still.

[@Dubbadizzo86]

@@aegishdaego Ok, 3 things. 1. Sex is always a risk, as you mentioned, contraception doesn't always work. So the solution isn't abortion if it goes south. The solution is to NEVER have sex with someone you don't intend to have a baby with, or you carry that baby. 2. The reason I don't want abortion prevalent in our society is exactly what you're saying: you're comparing a human life with a mosquito. The problem with this isn't the impact on the one individual life that is killed, but the impact on our society if we become a society that treats human life like it's nothing. 3. I don't technically want abortion illegal, as I think there are rare cases in which it is needed, but the key word is "rare". I want people to make smarter choices when it comes to sex so abortion is as rare as possible.

[@SunShine-ve5nr]

Great that so many men are giving their opinion on what women can do with their bodies. Progress?

[@blendersplendor]

It takes two to make the baby. Also this feminist perspective that the father is only good for his sperm and that his role as father in the child’s life doesn’t matter is saddening to hear. Regardless, this should be a discussion the couple should have before unprotected sex. The only exception would be rape or if it was casual sex.

[@gagegarner6654]

Why did you laugh and make fun of the one pro-life lad, but respected the others? Did his passionate opinion not deserve to be taken seriously and respected?

[@Whos_Thea]

He was talking to long, the video doesnt need to be 3 hours long lol

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

5:27 The single most based person

[@alexg7254]

I really hate that what all the "pro-life" people are missing is how shit some of the laws are written. These lawmakers are not doctors for the most part, and it's clearly obvious. The exceptions for saving a mother's life are so ambiguously written, like "imminent death" without providing descriptive definitions of what that constitutes. If you've ever read laws, they usually start with a list of definitions and the terminology within the law often has it's own unique definition that does not exist elsewhere in the language. So now there are doctors that are afraid to performabortions in cases where the mother's life may be in danger, where fetus is ancephalic, etc.

[@killerkraut9179]

Doctors arent reliable there are often monster them self !

[@BunnyRain946]

The production quality and your effort to get both sides of the story is admirable. Well done.

[@st.christopher4854]

"Abortion is a human right." Spoken by someone who will get old, become decrepit, and die ... whether they like it or not. So much for "human rights."

[@Scortex]

In MY opinion, abortion is a right. The life of a woman is more important, than the life of a theoretical human beeing which isnt even born yet. I dont care about any religious reasonings.

[@Euro.Patriot]

It's not a theoretical human, it's a human. By that logic I'll say you're a theoretical human and by that same logic it'd be okay to rip you apart limb from limb just like unborn babies are aborted.

[@kiwiipeachii8980]

@@Euro.Patriot No because the "human' does not have the brains to want to live. It does not have the brain of a human yet Science my dude

[@vonnajmyers4380]

What about the human rights of the baby . That baby is its own person. If you don't want to carry a baby DON'T get pregnant. Ever heard of safe sex.

[@bumblebee2372]

Did you know that the law states that if children need any organ transplants and the family is a match then they are not forced to give up their bodily autonomy. Because it’s wrong to use other people’s bodies without their consent. 🤯 Doesn’t matter how the mother got pregnant, they have a right to their bodily autonomy and shouldn’t be forced to give birth. And I’m sorry to say this but safe sex isn’t 100% safe.

[@mattewclubb5882]

I know they talk about choice when they are really talking about thier own selfishness

[@EdgeMaster556]

@@bumblebee2372 Its the babies body too, its alive.

[@bumblebee2372]

@@EdgeMaster556 Yh but the baby is using the mothers body to survive. If the baby was out of the womb but needed an organ transplant of the mother it is her total right to not consent. (Doesn’t mean it happens often) Same for all cases, without someone’s consent you are not allowed to use someone bodily autonomy. If that’s the law why is it dropped for women.

[@EdgeMaster556]

@@bumblebee2372 so your fine with abortion until birth? And you admit it is a baby just because the mother provides it nutrient doesn’t take away the fact it is alive and has humanity.

[@teatime11115bghj]

His Face 😂😂😂 (1:33) "There are 2 types of black people...."

[@nishajeetkullu5766]

There’s a topic in the subject of abortion that no one talks about in such videos. Female feoticide. In India it was common until there were rules that came up which made checking on the gender of the baby illegal. So is it okay to Have female feoticide, just to save that female fetus from further problems from a sexist home? And sexist homes aren’t just a third world problems but everywhere. If we are talking about exceptions like rape then why not this? I’d love to see pro choicers answer to this because I’ve heard them saying things like it’s better to abort then have a shitty life.

[@issecret1]

Yes, it is. If that society dies out later because of that, that's fair. Now what?

[@nishajeetkullu5766]

@@issecret1 "that society?" what society are you talking about? And what's fair? Female feticide?

[@kayahbrown4346]

The only important factor is the baby, considering that so many babies are born in trading tramatic situations 2 seconds born and then sold into trafficking, children and babies starving children dont deserve to suffer because the parents cant make good decisions, this is a global issue including in the states kids are born addicted to drugs so terrible things

[@cgortz89]

I'm pro-choice. I think we should focus more on creating good lives for the already born children, rather than making abortion about "murder" and then leave much more people coming into poverty and criminality. Abortion isn't "murder" because there isn't yet a consious living being. The featus haven't even developed pain nerves yet. It is much better that most babies that are born will be in circumstances of parents that want and can be there for them. Every born person will have much more support and the world will be much more sustainable. I still think contraceptives and sexual education should come first, but humanity need abortion as an option. I don't want to attack the other group and can have some understanding for having another opinion in this. But I think to be "pro-life" is actually creating a setup of more people coming into lives with much suffering, which isn't really helping anybody. They want well, but they often create something not so well.

[@legacy1X]

If the father doesn't have a say on weather or not to have an abortion then the mother doesn't get to have a say for child support if she decides to keep it. Why can one opt out but not the other.

[@luxolontamo4440]

Amen

[@michaelregis1015]

You can legally sign all your parental rights and custody unto the mother, which will include not having to pay child support, if you don't want the kid.

[@rubenloedolff]

@@michaelregis1015 No you cannot. If she doesnt want you to sign it. There are a lot of guys out there that would not have payed child support if htey werent forced to...

[@fluffyplushie16]

they should be using facts to support their beliefs, not their religion or personal life experiences, this goes for both sides but I often see people who are pro-life clinging onto their religion to back up their opinion

[@grilledcheese2100]

You see a lot of pro-life people clinging onto religion to back their position up because that is the basis of their position. I am religious, im pro life primarily due to that but i don't use it as my evidence. Just as many pro choice people's basis for their position is the lack of a moral standard regarding fetuses in the womb which is due to a lack of a religious deity, the opposite is true for pro-life theists.

[@bogartmotomoto8222]

Religion ?? But killing is objectively wrong. Do you think people opposing extra judicial killing, genocide, gun shooting is because of their religion?

[@killerkraut9179]

With science and facts you can justify murder and genocide ! Its not just about facts its about values !

[@PepsiMaxVanilla]

banning drugs didn't stop people from doing drugs, but now people die of fentanyl ODs. Making a law against something doesnt stop it, especially with something as serious as abortion also, moving countries is way cheaper than being forced to have a kid in america i'm against abortion but i dont think banning it will do anything because theres a seperate underlying cause that needs to be adressed

[@frankiemendez4601]

Here's a dumb question, what if the father of the unborn child were to also identify as the mother? Would they still have a say in women's rights?

[@panyrosas]

Bodily autonomy is already understood by many - yet applied oh so differently depending on the distribution of power among groups. As an American woman, right now, my dead body literally has *more rights* than my living body. If I don’t consent to being an organ donor now, then *no one* for *any reason* can use my body after life. The state cannot use my dead body even if it gives “potential life”. But now? The state can, in effect, force me to experience pregnancy and birth, which is no easy task, if you haven’t talked to mothers about it. People should have the right to control their bodies *to preserve their health* be it mental or physical. (Non sequitur) Addendum: Pro-lifers (the ones I’ve encountered) eagerly point to soup kitchens, adoption, churches, shelters, and food stamps. How come, in my political life, I’ve never seen them at the policy table when it comes to paid parental leave (state paid, 9-12 months) or universal healthcare, daycare, and preK? The US does not ensure a cent or second of parental leave. Touts of “family values”- when there’s no guaranteed material sustenance for them :/

[@Dubbadizzo86]

I'm a prolifer and I don't eagerly point to any of those things. What I point to is your inability to weigh the consequences of your actions. I don't want you to carry a baby that you don't want to full term. I want you to NOT get pregnant in the first place if you aren't intending on keeping your child. I want you to be a goddamned adult and practice responsible sexual habits so we don't become a morally bankrupt society that is ambivalent to the idea of literally killing children. Just stop fucking people you wouldn't want a baby with. Use contraception. Or just abstain. I don't care. Just stop be a fucknut irresponsible dingbat. Sex is overrated anyway.

[@thejesusdied4u86]

Nobody is forcing you to experience pregnancy. Are you forced to have sex? Sex is a choice. You can't jump off a cliff and then realize halfway down that you want to be standing back on the top of the cliff.

[@im7224]

Calixta... yes, you did have control of your body but if you choose to not do enough to prevent a pregnancy, it's too late afterwards. Birth control comes before pregnancy.

[@Cornbread_et_moulins]

This country is full of nonsense

[@captainvanisher988]

Delusional and bad analogies. No one forced you to give birth because no one forced you to have s3x. If you consent to having s3x ,you consent to the possibility of conceiving and giving birth. Your analogy can be so easily picked on with this example: If a woman is in labour and dies then and there, even though she has specifically said she is not an organ donor, the doctors will try and save the child. Why is that? Because in one, it's organs and in the other it's separate human life. Why would we have to be for welfare programs for irresponsible people? Also adoption is a perfect way out of it if you are that irresponsible. There are too many couples waiting to adopt newborn babies that the market cannot satisfy.

[@christislife4me]

“ Do you think adoption should be prioritized more than abortion “ “ America has not fixed our adoption foster system “ Right sis so if we prioritize the adoption system then what do you think will happen? 😐

[@Shiroyashasama]

I’m so glad I came across this channel. I literally can’t stop binging his videos

[@maximilianneumann4785]

The argument of "Its my body its my choice its my right" falls apart innately because it is not your right since this decision directly encroaches on the right to live of the unborn. Now I am always open to think about extreme cases in which abortions may be allowed, but those should be highly regulated and always tried to be steered into the direction of bearing the child and then giving it to foster care.

[@karatechopster155]

I get your point but gestation is very hard on the woman carrying the child, women can go through extreme pain, depression, loss of teeth, serious swelling, etc, and can even die during labour or gestation. I think it’s important to consider the fact that labour is extremely daunting, scary and painful for so many women. I don’t think women are eagerly waiting to kill their child, it’s just that society makes it very hard for women to feel at ease during gestation and postpartum. I think that many of those who have chosen abortion have thought about “what could’ve been” but nowadays, the economy, foster care system and maternity/paternity leave doesn’t leave any hope for anyone. I agree that everyone should have the right to live but is the government really going be able to care for the now millions new mothers and babies after birth when they’re already struggling to find funding for other needs?

[@KyleCanSuckMyBalls]

I understand the point you are making. Imo it should be someone's choice at least under 0-5 months of conception. Typically, babies wouldn't feel any mental or physical anguish until 22-24 weeks after conception, as that is when most fetuses become conscious. I believe that abortion should only be a last resort type of thing if all protection methods fail. I also believe that you shouldn't barred from abortion, especially victims of R word, and child pregnancies as it could be really psychologically damaging going through an experience like that. But idk, this is just my opinion

[@강인수-r3r]

Land of the free means you can do what the fuck you want but it does not mean that you are above the law, no one is.

[@quizs2486]

Bro you made fun of that guy's opinion, not cool dude

[@GEN]

fair feedback - but i made fun of both sides

[@blendersplendor]

@@GEN I think it was fair given you gave both sides some criticism.

[@rorogogos]

@@GEN I mean the only reason you flamed that girl was because she didn't give film, you called the religious guy a virgin and made fun of the other religious guy after he gave his reasonings and opinions.

[@Waryfuls]

*_1:36_**_ YES>?! WE'RE WAITING... SAY IT_*

[@jadetantillo]

hahahahha

[@GEN]

lmaoooo

[@Archer-hg9rw]

I don't remember the last time I felt the need to hit that subscribe button. I support your initiative and will continue to support it, most of those issues are viewed as black and white. We're often vilified and called names for even questioning them.

[@beefcupcakes5959]

6:03 The difference is in abortion the child's body is what's being affected. There are 2 bodies in abortions, only one in vaccines.

[@diefluchendehexe5775]

All I am going to say, is if men were able to have babies, abortion would be allowed. Everywhere. They would NEVER fight against it. But because it isn't them having to push out a baby, of course they want to make sure women suffer. Even if it means the baby will grow up unloved, in poverty or abandoned. Or that, the mother will die in child birth. But sure. Let men control abortion....

[@mushios]

As a prolife married woman, Also Gen Z here, come at me. 😂 I think these people were the least informed in this subject and neither side had any good arguments. I’ve tried to study deeper into why I am pro life and yes part of it has to do with the way I grew up but the deeper I look into it the more I’m confident in my opinion. Either side needs to look at both sides and be informed. Do not spout things you know nothing about. I’m pro life even in really hard cases and I think that was the hardest thing to choose. Being able to stay informed and perfect my beliefs and knowledge of people ask why I think that way.