Deepal S07 Australia Walkthrough and Official Launch Sydney Oct 2024

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[@Stan-at-KangarooIslandTV]

Nice to see these cars arrive here.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Choice is good

[@reventonrowe6111]

I actually quite like it. No weird looking bits. It’s the Urus I can afford to buy!

[@LudicrousFeed]

Love that Lambo yellow! 😁

[@proximaone1350]

I was thinking Lambo too😊

[@cabigenthapa3108]

I have one and absolutely love it.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Fantastic!

[@a1peck]

They have a nice look about them, love to see one in the metal when they come to Melbourne.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Worth checking out in the flesh

[@tren133]

Changan does some of the best exterior styling amongst all the Chinese automakers. Their luxury sub-brand Avatr looks even nicer.

[@mixalis6168]

Seen a few around in Thailand, the look really good in person

[@gfbprojects1071]

I like it. Can definitely see the Model Y touches which shows which segment of the market it is targetting.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yup it’s a crowded segment alright!

[@jansenwilder1335]

This is the lower budget version of the Avartr 07..same Huawei software.. It's an affordable premium EV .. below the Avartr Range segment. 🎉😊😊

[@LudicrousFeed]

I’m hearing whispers it is going to start with a $4 …

[@stevenlee7195]

whats the next model? Sandeep?

[@Ausijoeblow]

Or RaaJeep😂

[@dr.andersonsghost4315]

Hardik, that'd be my guess. Get a Hardik to go Deepal.

[@daveamies5031]

Yep in typical Chinese tradition use a name that sounds like it's from any other country other than China to try and deceive consumers, another DeRUCCI of cars

[@Ronin-ol6ft]

is this Changan? already saw Avatr thou and its bloody Good!!

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yes Changan

[@ahpong]

Yes, I test-drove the Avatr11 yesterday in Bangkok. My dad is looking to replace his 10 yo Mercedes with the Avatr11. Jeeze, it's EQS killer!

[@Ronin-ol6ft]

@@ahpong im waiting for BYD Bao 5 in Australia and also im an ex owner of BMW & Mercedes

[@reeceagland1980]

Seats look lovely, like exterior too but door handles look flimsy, don't lack of driver instruments and lack of physical buttons. One advantage recent Renault BEV is return to some physical buttons and driver focused screens rather than one do it all screen. Koreans also do this. Wish Chinese would too. N9 V2L in boot a big issue for me. Seems some cost cutting. L7 sedan looks good

[@LudicrousFeed]

I think the trend will eventually return to a mix of buttons and screen as the market demands it

[@johnbaumann1089]

WOW. Love it.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Hopefully I’ll get a test drive soon!

[@AJames-jr8kw]

They are already driving RHD Deepal S07 in Nepal and Pakistan. Bit of confusion with different reviews giving different info. I have seen some say FWD, others RWD. ditto LFP and NMC batteries. I guess we will find out in a month or so. Interestingly one said the 68kWh battery version (available in China) came with a 190kW motor while the 80kWh battery version had only 160kW. Mysterious.

[@LudicrousFeed]

I'm quoting the exact specs that Deepal gave us in the press pack

In Thailand the same. The long range version has the smaller motor. But both have power enough for a daily driver.

[@henrytoussaint7]

Good video, hot take but I reckon this is the best looking mid-sized EV SUV so far!

[@LudicrousFeed]

Wow big call! But yeah it's not a bad looking car 🥂

[@dabbingduskullz]

The Deepal logo looks like the same as Secret labs logo

[@LudicrousFeed]

Now I can’t unsee it! 😆

[@richardp965]

At first glance, I thought it looked like Cupra logo. lol! 😅

[@theimax1]

Tom does the deepal have bi-directional charging. Love the frunk

[@LudicrousFeed]

According to Riz's article in The Driven, yes it does allow V2L up to 3.3kW: thedriven.io/2024/10/17/chinas-deepal-official-launches-its-first-ev-in-australia-the-s07-electric-suv/

[@deanstyles2567]

The S07 looks good, a bit generic but if it proves to be reliable and is priced competitively it should be a compelling option. I'd probably pick it over the Xpeng as I prefer how it looks.

[@LudicrousFeed]

I guess with all these cars starting to present the same amount of value, buyers' choice will probably come down to appearance, appeal and brand relatability for most!

[@ahpong]

I am a Deepal L07 user in Thailand. It's a good car, yes. But if it arrived in Thailand earlier, I would have added $7K AUD more for the Xpeng G6. Xpeng, Avatr, Nio, and Aion HT are brands meant to compete with Mercedes and BMW. Forget Lexus.

[@satay8167]

Price has to be super appealingly to compensate new unknown brand to begin although there is nice features and in the meantime I stick with my y.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Pricing will be everything

[@hal3137]

Thanks Tom stella effort.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Thanks!

[@pmacgowan]

Very Nice, give MY a run for its money

[@LudicrousFeed]

It’ll be interesting to see

[@romeoguitar]

I have S07 in Thailand very Lambo like, i still prefer Seal interior but exterior S07.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Nice! Thanks for sharing!

[@Fat-totoro-cat]

Why are modern EV's obsessed with having almost no physical controls and putting everything on a large screen? I bloody hate it! I dont want to have to take my eyes off the road to adjust the climate control...

[@LudicrousFeed]

Seems to be the trend doesn’t it. Some have suggested voice control but in my experience that’s not always foolproof! The HUD helps somewhat with the telemetry in front of you rather than looking to the side

[@shuobu1521]

Because you can voice control everything

[@CThienV]

It's not just EVs. Same deal with my wife's new Lexus. It's always a joy jumping back into my 14 year old Honda afterwards.

[@SS-yw7vo]

If it's done right it's not a problem

[@CThienV]

Cars coming out today were conceptualised and designed many years ago, and at that time perhaps the concept of elegance and simplicity was the flavour of the day. Unfortunately the pallete has changed upon the launch of these cars. Except for Chinese EVs which are designed the week before launch. 😂

[@harryrose6254]

Can someone explain the maths? They say it has a range of 475km. However, it has a 80kwhr battery (more or less) and an efficiency of 18.6kw/100km = 430km, not 475km. Allowing for only being able to use 90% of the battery = 387 km. Every bev specs does the same.

[@LudicrousFeed]

I don't disagree, it doesn't quite add up at first glance

[@MTH1]

Am I the only one who see these 2 colours to be copies of the Genesis GV60? 😅😊😂 0:23

[@LudicrousFeed]

Some are saying the yellow reminds them of the Lambo Urus

[@amon5124]

Actually this car don’t have a driver’s display. Only HUD. Kind of makes sense.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Hopefully the HUD will compensate for the lack of instrument cluster display

[@CYBER-EV]

Not really competing with the value of a model Y or the size of the G6, charging speed is important, which means they are a few steps backwards in their technology. On the positive, it has nice clean lines/styling and impressive frunk.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yeah huge frunk! I’m glad the HUD makes up for the lack of instrument cluster

[@chrisnewman7281]

In my experience travelling around there aren’t that many charges that offer very high speeds. You really have to hunt them out in in some cases go out of your way to find them.

Charging speed is enough for most drivers. In Thailand it is quite less expensive than the Model Y.

[@moestrei]

Charging speed in Australia outside the Tesla network is mostly 50kW no matter what the car can do 😂.

[@sawprince7539]

please model 3 refresh or model y 2024. which one is better for long term.

[@MrFouzi123]

Both

[@LudicrousFeed]

Do you want a Sedan or SUV?

[@sawprince7539]

@@LudicrousFeed I’m good with both.

[@wosamosman9814]

If you want the latest Tesla has to offer go for the Model 3 but if you're not bothered I would say the Model Y is a more practical option ( Bigger , Higher of the ground etc )

[@TassieEV]

Large looking frunk the touchscreen only controls with no buttons that coudl fail them for a 5-star rating under EuroNCAP which does the testing for ANCAP so could be a 4-Star rating. But why does Chinese vehicles still have some weird love affair with the past with USB-A unlike Korea who have dumped A for C only. Was Brendan Gleeson there as I am sure I heard his voice talking about the battery size. They launched their special colours for Bondi in Spotto & Freddo colours really. :)

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@@TassieEV I’ve got a whole bunch of A to C adaptors ready to go once the world fully goes C 😁

[@robmulally]

Needs more drones

[@LudicrousFeed]

Definitely! 😜

[@jovceata]

I'm liking the L07 a lot more the S07 reminds me too much like a MG4 but a lot better

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yeah the L07 looks interesting

The L07 is a very nice car and I love the hatch. Unfortunately it is too low for me…

@@LudicrousFeedLooks great in person!

[@AJames-jr8kw]

150k RMB in China (31.5k AUD) so they have room to undercut the competition if they wish. ( Chinese price maybe cheaper version than Australian..)

[@LudicrousFeed]

Would be nice if it was that price haha

[@umeshchudal]

If there is no physical button then it is not for me.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Luckily there are more options in the EV market now with newer brands also emerging …

[@BB-qp5xo]

Wow, not shy in the mercedes logo copy! : )

[@kamsunleong6648]

So petty.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Inspiration needs to come from somewhere

[@ulfw]

Seems AU has become the testing ground for which no name brand sticks. None can possibly be making money with the low volume they'll do. How many hundreds of sales does a "Deepal" expect to bring in?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Absolutely AU is the defacto "western" testing ground for Chinese brands

[@Looneytune]

Chinese ppl in Australia be like: Why they sell the outdated version here for the full price huh

[@LudicrousFeed]

The export market get what we get 🤷‍♂️

[@yellowfig812]

92 kw DC fast charging is just not good enough nowadays. It's pretty bad that they didn't even say the charging speed in the presentation, just the 30 - 80% time (trying to hide something?). The competitors like Tesla, Xpeng and zeekr all do more than 200 kw

[@davec110]

They're not competing with those brands. not in China not here. They under cut those brands significantly in China. Atto3 does 80kW DC and it sells well. If this is priced under $50k like the Atto3 it's bigger has more range, better specs, more luxurious. People looking to buy an Atto3 might take this instead.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Pricing will be key

It is enough for most drivers.

[@s.vortex]

I thought Deepal was an Indian car brand. ☺

[@LudicrousFeed]

Seems to be a common misconception

[@alanung]

@@s.vortex ditto…😄

[@ahpong]

🤣🤣🤣

[@joeloss3476]

Wow some blatant copying of Tesla there! And some good innovation too. The powered roof sunshade is something Tesla should have done years ago.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yeah loved the powered sunshade

[@Ausijoeblow]

To be fair, every ev from china that is of similar size to a Tesla, reviews would emphasise , this new entry is Tesla this, Tesla that. In really all of Tesla, software is probably the only thing that is not made in china.

[@ahpong]

I am a Deepal L07 Sedan user in Thailand. The software in Deepal was made by Huawei yet the brand is marketed to ex-Toyota/Honda users so it will handle only basic functions. If you want something fancier than Tesla and Mercedes at the same time, wait for the Avatr11 also from ChangAn. Test-drove it yesterday in Bangkok. The Avatr11 is EQS killer at the price equivalent to the Tesla MY.

[@mixalis6168]

See 2-3 per day in Thailand.. Australia is so far behind !

[@LudicrousFeed]

Great to see these in Thailand!

@@LudicrousFeedThe S07 had no competition. Its was the only affordable EV of this size. It also beat the Honda CR-V at the beginning. I very like the colours and that you can choose the interior colour independent from the exterior colour. The infotainment system (from Huawei?) is very good.

[@gregwatling4041]

With a peek DC charge rate of 92kW I would never consider this car it is way too slow at charging. Other than that it’s a nice looking car.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yup not much faster in DC speed than Atto 3

[@gregwatling4041]

@@LudicrousFeed yes I would only consider these cars with low charging speeds as a second car never a road trip car

[@tren133]

@@gregwatling4041 Most Deepals sold in China are the EREV variants, which have a smaller battery, but also will have a small engine up front which only acts as a generator. They still offer good electric only range (mid trim is like 200 km of electric only range I believe), so you essentially have a full BEV for your daily driving if you can charge at home. Then for road trips you would just gas up so the lack of fast DC charging becomes a moot point. Why Changan isn't selling that version in Australia I have no idea.

[@moestrei]

​@@gregwatling4041When road tripping in Australia you find most chargers to be 50kW max anyway....so what's the point?

[@gregwatling4041]

@@moestrei those slower chargers are being replaced, but you can drive from Melbourne to Brisbane using only 150kW to 350kW and that’s not using any Tesla chargers.

[@honesty_-no9he]

NO LFP Slow charging

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yes no LFP is a drawback imo

[@honesty_-no9he]

@@LudicrousFeed They could have gone for CATL Shenxing battery and had both LFP and 4C charging. 30% to 80% in 35 minutes is not acceptable these days.

@@Sensei_it_isIn Thailand we have a L07 version with LFP.

[@mazilys]

It’s starting to look the same as MG, BYD, etc

[@LudicrousFeed]

I don't entirely disagree, these new brands need to differentiate themselves and win over some new buyers somehow!

I think that the S07 looks different than a BYD. Other Chinese brands look really very similar, indeed.

[@steveny9972]

30-80% in 35 min is slow for DC

[@LudicrousFeed]

Probably similar to BYD Atto 3 and Chery Omoda 5 to name a couple of notable examples

Slow, but enough for most drivers.

[@steveny9972]

@@LudicrousFeed I think ATTO 3 is faster, 10-80% about 40 min for ours

[@sphinx2k210]

S07 might be the closest to a chinese copy of a Model Y yet, especially the frunk, UI and driver controls but with added comfort, HUD and roof sunshade. Will be interesting to hear about price and stats.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Yes price will be everything. Bigger battery also than the RWD Y

[@maxstechnology6363]

The Xpeng G6 is WAY closer than this…

[@camneilsen8234]

13:55 wtf ?

[@LudicrousFeed]

A bit of modern dance

[@camneilsen8234]

@@LudicrousFeed I suppose at least someone got paid for doing a job even if it's a bit weird 😃

[@A861967]

Somehow disappointing design and technology all look the same nowadays

[@LudicrousFeed]

Something about imitation and flattery I suppose

[@MrMosimc]

It does not seem that Chinese car manufacturers are going to hire someone who can find a great name & make a great logo for their cars!

[@gregj7916]

I guess everyone is there for the freebies, be nice if Inchcape had promoted Citroen before attempting to flog this unknown brand.

[@LudicrousFeed]

No such thing as a free lunch? (Or drink or goodie bag … ) 😁

[@dointheokecoke5548]

S07 ugly around boot S05 looks better

[@LudicrousFeed]

It’s an SUV, hard to make it look pretty tbh

[@stizzygrayson5541]

NMC batteries catch fire

[@Aussie_Stu76]

by all means show the proof and stats to back it up!

[@jaywess6139]

Rubbish... stop reading made-up, anti-EV propaganda (and check how often ICE vehicles catch fire while you're at it).

[@milkoowen6800]

Not another ev, we need more phev instead

[@LudicrousFeed]

Have you checked out the BYD SL6?

[@milkoowen6800]

@@LudicrousFeed good car, but that's it, there isn't anything else. Really want a Li L7, 8, 9, the 6 seat configuration on these are more practical in my opinion.

[@tren133]

@@LudicrousFeed Is Changan really only going to export the BEV version to Australia? The vast majority of Deepal sales in China are the EREV variant. Really in most ways the S07 is not particularly competitive against the Model Y or say the Xpeng G6 or BYD Sea Lion 7. The main selling feature of Deepal is its lower price and the fact that unlike the Y or G6, you can get it in EREV variant. Also I think the newest update also adds Huawei autonomous driving system, which is market leading in China. Odd decision to not offer either the EREV or the Huawei ADS. Maybe they cannot implement the Huawei stuff overseas, but they should at least send the EREV version.

[@moestrei]

Plug ins are a trap, many of the tiny batteries fail around the 150.000km mark. Overseas PEHV are disappearing from the market which is why this obsolete technology is being flogged here.

[@milkoowen6800]

@@moestrei best selling luxury SUV brand in China is Li Auto, they only do phev, it is not a dead technology.