Why I Played All of Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League

[@defendthehouse]

KZbin is a weird thing to do for so long...

[@codelyandmore]

And what a journey it has been !

[@narutofan4545]

Time to quit

[@alanchichilla]

Just don't quit before publishing the Revelations part, please! Btw. when will you publish it? ;-)

[@jacoblofthus7908]

I don't doubt that.😂

[@mezcashis]

What a true Canadian. “Suicide Squad fucking sucks” his next words “Sorry” 😂😂

[@ninobrown909]

Canadian? Dang, couldn't tell from the lack of "aboots".

[@Walamonga1313]

​@@ninobrown909He didn't even faht

[@KSunlan]

Saying DTH has been around for 11 years is... nuts. Love you guys.

[@defendthehouse]

It's more like 15 years now since the OG crew! Kinda scary honestly...

[@Walamonga1313]

Never heard of in that entire time. The internet truly feels vast

[@snekie]

I almost bought Suicide Squad at launch, it had the "oh this looks kinda cool to play, I should check it out" only to learn that that's about all you'll see of the game for the entire thing, no new exciting things, just literally what you saw in the trailer. I'd feel a bit robbed if I bought it, glad I didn't, and glad this video was posted so that idea never comes to mind again. Great video format, would love to see more

[@ninobrown909]

You should know better by now to never buy at launch. I'm 40yrs old and it hurts to say that because it use to be a fina and amazing product at launch.

[@whosDaBun]

the gameplay is fun for what it is. it’s a looter shooter. idk why people expected so much from it tbh.

[@entombedentity]

That beginning rant.. I felt that. I've been watching since your Halo 3 MythBusters series. Honestly its pretty incredible that you're still going strong. I wish you the best. Just remember to take some time to enjoy yourself

[@benjabr0]

what's good, fellow H3MBer

[@jyapp4489]

You were absolutely right regarding Destiny. I've been playing since launch as well and that game never fails to amaze me with how much they got right in the gameplay aspect above all else (minus year 1 of Destiny 2). Things have just changed so much that realistically the reason why Destiny is still running is because they got the formula right a long time ago, and when they deviated in the wrong direction they HAD to transition back to survive. Games like Suicide Squad utterly failed to realize that issue, and at this point its becoming blatantly obvious just from talking to devs (and now being one) that its a poor management and chasing "safe" investments issue that's causing the current stagnation.

[@iponce2]

bungie make a good fps. we can rightfully criticize them but we have to recognize their strengths too

[@ninobrown909]

Man dude, you put in a TON of work in this video and I really appreciate it! Though I do love shallow and short entertainment , it's nice to watch a video as in depth as this. Not only was it a view into the Big Machine that is now the games industry, but also a view into how one of my favorite entertainers ticks. You and Joe are just awesome content creators and I hope to see you two continue this wonderful video game journey for more years to come! Btw, myth video on BF1 where y'all attempt to land on a ladder from great heights is my absolute favorite video. There is no better representation of my video game journey.

[@defendthehouse]

When I was making the big grid of videos we've made for the opening shot, the only one that really caught my eye was that cursed ladder video and all the trauma came rushing back!!

[@Staladus]

Its honestly amazing that you guys are still going, really wish you guys get the views you deserve

[@ninobrown909]

Yea this video is definitely under rated in terms of views. But in a time of 10sec videos, this form of content is definitely not going to appeal to the masses.

[@balboy14]

DTH is a channel I've followed intermittently over the last decade, and over the past couple of years with the Zombie's series, I've enjoyed tuning in more than ever. Pair that with a growing desire for content that actually means something and isn't a short-form attention grab and I can't tell you how much this video satiated me. Thank you, for the continued creativity, for the insights into your thoughts and everything you guys put out. I'm going to take this as my sign to start tuning in WAY more.

[@Prelmable]

You guys have a podcast?? You're doing a bad job promoting that.

[@snekie]

Every new podcast is posted on the Discord :)

[@pieru]

@@snekie vomit

[@defendthehouse]

Can be found wherever podcasts are found, search for "Defend The Podcast". That said, we don't do episodes very often, it's a fun little hobby for us.

[@Droptima15]

I just wanna say, thank you for this, when it just went on sale for 60% off. I want to play it, but that still feels like too much

[@defendthehouse]

That is very convenient timing for you and unfortunate timing for Rocksteady

[@ninobrown909]

This game is over priced at 1cent.

[@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour]

I'm 8 minutes into this video, and you've reiterated the same sentiment about creating content probably 8x, and haven't even started actually discussing the topic of the video 😂😂😂 I can't.

[@joshuaknox2724]

I always used to wonder "do youtubers really enjoy the games they play" but hearing your views on things it really does take some of the magic out of it when you grow accustomed to making it into content but it's nice to see that you found your own ways to make it enjoyable for you and your viewers.

[@bbmonx]

i like how everything he says about the game can be applied to Destiny 2

[@johnwest6977]

Except it works on destiny 2

[@gabhoule]

I follow your channel since year one if I recall correctly. You always make/made quality content and brought fun and informative videos on the platform. Love you guys.

[@Jon_EL]

This needed to be made by the people who made Sunset Overdrive to have a chance to be fun...

[@JackAubreyy]

What a Tuesday blessing this is

[@anonvoila4883]

The sad part is, if you remove the story of Anthem, you realize how good the mechs and even the environment are. It's so sad that the game's technology was so advanced.

[@jackh3567]

I feel like this reflects exactly how a lot of gamers feel, hopefully some game developers see this video and are inspired to make something we all actually want! Great video!

[@TheRealLTJRH512]

The problem isn’t much the developers but the publishers that care only about the boardroom pitch, stock price, and quarterly revenue numbers. MK 11 while people may not have loved the gameplay mechanic changes had some micro transactions but a ton of free cosmetics and content. Only a few years later and MK 1 has massively reduced the free content, and cosmetics and locked up what it does offer behind its largely real money only currency

[@c-log4700]

The gameplay doesn’t look so terrible. Might still try it if it goes on gamepass or price goes down

[@adamc117]

How you describe suicide squad is exactly how I feel about destiny. And all the extra content for that is PAYED and then deleted. In SS it’s free and permanent

[@coltonwilkie241]

It's just too bad that free and permanent content is in a mid game.

[@JeannieLove]

Idk, I had fun. Just too bad that's all the story there is. They'd have to really ramp it up for Season 2 and beyond.

[@ricardomeijer7164]

There wont be much beyond season 2, the game will be lucky if it makes it to season 4. WB has already said its been a loss of over 200million, yes million... So its far from making a profit for them so they have no reason to keep it on life support

[@lucianwong420]

Oh shit, i totally forgot about this channel. If i remember correctly, i used to watch your Call of Duty myths. Damn, i get hit with a wave of nostalgia all of a sudden.

[@bam3654]

I’m am sooooo sick of floating numbers. I don’t care the number value I’m hitting.

[@thepopmanbrad]

tbh i really enjoy suicide squad kill the justice league i like the traversal the gunplay the voice acting the characters etc its all great

[@tombull89]

Yeah, I could rant about Anthem for ages. I think it's my biggest disappointment of all time. It had such a prestigious studio behind it, a good core mechanic (flying suits? what's not to love), it looked absolutely incredible. While the "looter shooter" concept was new to me at the time I thought I'd give it a go. And what I found was great fun, just flawed. Anthem wasn't the first live service game yet it was built like it was. So many core elements were missing, and it was just frustrating. We know Anthem had a troubled development period but it's like they just didn't play any live service games. As for Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League? That's going to stay firmly unplayed. I think my eyes are bleeding from the footage and on-screen effects. Thanks Jamison.

[@defendthehouse]

Yeah Anthem was such a sad mess to watch. I had honest potential (and even some interesting lore) but holy cow did they ever just fail at so many things.

[@Oxideist]

The first issue is trying to shoehorn every game developer into an archetype, Bioware is known for single player RPGs not looter shooters. I'd already had enough of that genre since Destiny ruined gaming with it in 2014, but seeing a game dev forced to make a genre they don't usually do (and again with Redfall) proves to me that we are really in the day and age where the suits are in control and they have no clue what they're doing.

[@UserName-vv1ws]

Can't believe you did this bro. Makes for a great video but let's say F the shit collectively and just wait for the greats

[@TheDevil69270]

Thanks for going though this introspective experience, but also through the pain. I love this type of content, you have a great analytical brain and this channel can benefit from it ! Hope you can bring this to a game you enjoy some time soon !

[@mullaoslo]

It's even funnier when you think about the Arkham series started becuase they wanted to pivot away from standard licensed movie games of the time. They canned the Dark Knight game to focus on a game set in just the batman universe leaning towards the animated series but still being it's own thing.. It was supposed to be anti cash grab franchise but now "it lived long enough to see itself become the villain"

[@Hasd31]

Remember when video games where you know games?...

[@chrisrutley1332]

Well, I appreciate the content. DTS is my favorite thing to watch during work lunch breaks. And yeah, as a general rule, if you expect a company's profits to increase every year into infinity at a rate over inflation, something is going to break eventually. I'll note that I think this is largely driven by the studios or their owners being publicly traded companies. Privately owned companies tend not to have as much pressure to mortgage the future for short-term gain.

[@Incog-e1z]

This is one of the greatest videos I watched all year. I’m pissed I only now know you guys exist.

[@defendthehouse]

Thanks! 😊

[@SzymonAdamus]

If you want to play games that feel new, unique, ambitious and try to be a true pieces of art expanding the culture - play more indie games. This is where all this and more is happening right now. AAA games have gotten so expensive to make that less and less companies wand or even can take risks. With a current market situation (Embracer stuff, few big titles domination, recession etc.) it will only get worse in this matter. Play, support and talk more about smaller, indie or AA games. Ignore and stop buying/promoting giant soulless franchises, sequels etc. There’s nothing wrong with them as a video game equivalent of a blockbuster, popcorn movie, but that’s not what will ever challenge us intellectually or be truly experimental or/and creative.

[@DavidSRJR]

I do not envy those who play games for their jobs. I am glad people can make a living doing it but a lot of the experiences seem to get ruined with people in chats back seating or when players feel like they need to rush through a part because it would be boring.

[@BillyJSingh]

This video was amazing!

[@garyisfat]

that clip of ryan and jeff guerstman broke my fucking heart man life was so much better back then

[@XepptizZ]

It doesn't just happen for content making. I used to be an avid gamer, I could play through multiple a week with how short FPS campaigns were. Now, most games have such recognizable game mechanics that there's not much surprise left. The most enjoyable experiences I have had over the years was Her Story and Antichamber probably.

[@courier11sec]

BUT JAMES THERE ARE BRIGHT FLASHING COLORS! THE KIDS LIKE BRIGHT FLASHING COLORS RIGHT? -some asshole exec probably.

[@ViewtifulJae]

Game isn’t that bad and you can tell a lot of work went into it. Honestly the gameplay loop being so repetitive is really its biggest issue. They could fix everything else just like any other looter that launches and sucks as a first outing into “live service”

[@crazy-acid-trip9765]

New viewer and damn you got me hooked already . Thank you for your service. Alot people wouldn't do what you did . Glad to sub

[@JesseAnderson]

This bothered me especially last year, but I cannot stand people trying to critique things in real time to have their perfect game of the year nailed down by the end of the year. 2023 ended up releasing something like a dozen (probably more) games of the year depending on your preference. But no matter what game you were watching coverage or streams for, people went out of their way to establish some objective metric for extremely minor issues most games have as well. We don't need to play games like we're building a stupid list every year, we can just respect the game that the developers made and pay enough attention to enjoy it.

[@jacoblofthus7908]

I (sort of) get why people dislike this game, but I don't like jumping on hate-wagons. It just isn't worth it.

[@Baer1990]

On top of that, I notice the further I go over 30, the less patience I have for just sitting down and gaming. I still do it daily but binge-ing isn't in it anymore

[@tanork47]

It saddens me that my friends are in the same boat. They havent grown to hate games, they just have seen and are seeing the patterns that modern games are now. No Innovation, no creativity. Now its only indie games where we can find that same spark. Plus indie games release in a solid state.

[@andrewtheidea]

KEEP MAKING MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS!!

[@ephemeral5298]

i hated the story tbh. it was goofy as hell to me but i actually enjoyed the gameplay itself. maybe cuz i was using king shark and deadshot and they feel better to use than the other 2 but the gameplay itself felt fine to me. getting sets to flesh out the builds and spam abilities more often feels good. im used to grinding boring stuff after playing Warframe for a decade so it doesnt really phase me much. Maybe im the only one that liked it idk. i played the campaign with my brother so maybe that added to the fun factor a bit but im in the endgame by myself for the most part.

[@Vikushu]

I totally agree with you about how cynical having video games as a hobby is. It's really sad to see publishers chase "safe" bets like an uninteresting genre dragger we've all seen before, versus something different or at least fun. The ones with money to spend on a risk want to take the riskiest bets of all. They're chasing Fortnite's and Destiny's when they should be chasing Ori's, Tunic's, or Hi-Fi Rushes. Not games that are ubiquitous, but engaging and delightful to play through.

[@spugspence8607]

19:42 I just noticed her buns snapping into place, kinda ruins the moment when she is randomly using her hair control ability.

[@StealthMonkey]

Anthem, while deeply flawed, is still one of my favorite games of all time.

[@radrobb3530]

I'm playing The First Descendant now and I played Avengers from day one until they shuttered the online (and made it marvel ultimate alliance aka playable offline forever). Live service games can be pretty awesome if you just learn to have self control and embrace what you enjoy in the game. You simply don't need to log on if you don't want to, and put it down when it isn't fun. No genre is bad, but every genre is bad for someone.

[@Edgeworthless]

I know exactly how you felt with the gear being too op too quickly I got a really good assault rifle and sniper rifle while playing through on normal difficulty, and they absolutely shredded the first few bosses. It took me until Invasion Level 5 (What used to be the hardest difficulty) in order for it to feel like a challenge. The flash fight still sucked though

[@tD-wp5vj]

i guess its times like this im happy i didnt pay attention to who made the game or movie growing up. never got that fan/ company loyalty. its why i found many hidden gems growing up.

[@calebpribyl5152]

Yeah I have that same feeling as well! (Sega Saturn library has WAY TOO MANY underrated games that it’s impossible for me to list!)

[@THEEJONESY]

love this commentary, more philosophical videos

[@LaviathnGames]

I find I have a similar experience with being a platinum trophy hunter. it’s sometimes gets in my way of enjoying a game. If the game does not have a platinum trophy or one that I can reach with my skill level, I don’t feel as much enjoyment in playing it. But if it’s a platinum trophy I can get I don’t care if it’s 120 hour game I’ll play it twice. For example, assassin’s Creed Valhalla PS4 and PS5

[@MrBongJovi]

Man, seeing Ryan Davis brought me back. Loved the real giant bomb.

[@brpers1l151]

Wow, that was one hell of an intro

[@anth0nyislive]

I loved this video! Would love to see more of these!

[@rob1965g-i3b]

Compulsive video game finishing disorder? Time to see a therapist 😉

[@defendthehouse]

I did! His name was Brainiac!!

[@ThyTrueNightmare]

The issue with the industry will always be shareholders, shareholders want stocks to go up or divinities to be paid. this is where I see private companies having an advantage. The issue for private companies is there is a lot more weight resting on your shoulders should you go bankrupt.

[@eduardogonzalez-xk4vj]

Good video, and I hope to see the new Cod Zombies video soon

[@ezzahhh]

Superman didn't even die in a cutscene, he just dies and that's it.

[@Derglesnaf]

Never played Destiny, however I’m not surprised that the creators of the original Halo series made and still make a good shooter game.

[@LejoTheAstro]

Never seen gameplay from Suicide Squad and the utter barf of numbers on the screen is nauseating. Don’t tell me how much exp an enemy gets me right above their dead body, just add it to the exp bar. AND WHY ARE THE NUMBERS SO BIG

[@Texas-FINALMIX-]

He thinks it sucked 10:00 saved you 10 minutes of rambling

[@juaneskator]

I bought it day one, was super excited, and played it like 10 hours straight (something I never did before). Enjoyed my time and have like 80+ hours lol But it's sad to feel robbed bcs of all of the comments

[@johnaplin9848]

Suicide Squad kill the justice league literally just wore me down I wound up quitting right after visiting the hospital because I nearly died from diabetes and when I came back to finish the game I just realized that I couldn’t do it anymore I was lying to myself telling myself that suicide squad was good and I really wanted this game to be good but I couldn’t do it and I quit and sold my copy and used the leftover cash which was only ten dollars and bought some cosmetics I had my eyes on for an exotic weapon in destiny but yeah it’s a very sad loss for rocksteady

[@blinkachu5275]

Thank you for this video So many people defended this bullshit game (I also beat it from start to finish because I could not believe it would be as terrible as it was, I deluded myself into thinking it would get better) with "oh at least the combat's fun" like... no, it's not. It genuinely isn't if you even take a second to think critically about it I genuinely feel like a lot of gamers have been so brainwashed by bad games in the past 10 years that whenever a game looks pretty nowadays (which SS:KTJ does have as a plus point), they will gloss over anything in relation to its gameplay

[@Pix-t5n]

Very good video. I don't make these type of videos but i kind of feel the same way about gaming. Not sure if it me getting older but games don't feel enjoyable anymore. When i was younger i could stop playing games. Now, they kind of feel like a chore, after a couple of hour i just want to jump of and do something less.

[@dustinbingham7322]

when i need a mental reset Mount and blade warband works for me

[@frankallen3634]

Well I've played one game the last 6 years. And next year in March I get to play a new game. Finally the next mainline game and that will be the game for the next 5 to 6 years. I only enjoy one series and I only enjoy one genre.

[@defendthehouse]

Which game/series is this?

[@nadtz]

I loved the late 80's-90's suicide squad comics when I got around to reading them and this game completely missed the mark for fans like me. I'd have loved a game that covered the original SS in a modern context where they go in on some ridiculous mission that makes sense to the government but needs to be deniable and some of them die but generally succeeding (more like the second movie than the first) in the same way that the Arkham games did Batman justice, but instead we got them killing the Justice League (which let's be honest, they couldn't do) in a looter shooter that instead of making the individual members stand out in some meaningful way made it a generic run and gun FPS. I'd guess that a lot of people interested in a SS game don't particularly care about live service aka milk your wallet games but had hoped Rocksteady would have put out a good game like the Arkham games. And if the reporting on the development on this game is accurate I feel for the devs who joined rocksteady thinking they would be working on something like the Arkham games only to find out they would be working on this instead. My condolences for your sacrifice playing this game but I was entertained by your dismantling of why it was so bad if that's any consolation.

[@JuniiHejjiko]

This is something i brought up privately a lot but the drive to make content on a piece of media. Since doing streaming a lot i always see stuff with that lense and how it would be fun to do live but that means when i am outside of that the enjoyment of said game feels moot. Honestly been recently myself to get out of that and trying to enjoy things out of my own personal time but i think other content creators do need to be aware of that. How much of their opinions are affected by the need of making content of said game?

[@humanmale1042]

Idk why but I think I might be one of the only people who actually likes SS, even though it’s not great, I’m having fun. And that’s what games are supposed to be, fun. No one can tell me I can’t enjoy that game

[@koleszgdanska7149]

5:20 took him long enough

[@Furzkampfbomber]

What I wonder is, who in his right mind wants to kill some of the most iconic and beloved DC characters time and time and time and again? That is the first big flaw this game has at least in my book.

[@JDM12983]

Hearing some constantly fuss and complain about pretty much everything; isn't fun to watch/listen to >

[@TheRaivoX]

5 minutes of blablabla jesus fucking christ

[@laylaschu]

thank you for your sacrifice 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@gmtom19]

Hey man, I liked the video but I think almost 10 minutes of pre-amble before getting to the actual topic is wee bit much.

[@TheGinger_Ninja]

Solid analysis

[@cptshelly]

Not even the joker is crazy enough to play all of suicide squad

[@adamc117]

You don’t actually kill any of the league by the way, there’re all still alive

[@Axterix13]

It's a game that you have to wonder how it even got greenlit. They want to make a game with superheroes, a genre where characters have crazy and unique powers, where everyone uses guns. That no one in charge of the money didn't have enough to sense to see that and nix it right there and then, amazes me. It'd be as dumb as making a game about exploration and NG+ where exploration is meaningless and NG+ changes nothing in a meaningful way.

[@jrex6413]

19:10 this hit hard

[@Steveo0547]

At this point if they don’t start adding more missions I am done 😊

[@brendenchambers2032]

I wont lie i did not start watching until tears of the kingdom mythbusters and infinite mythbusters but I am hooked I do have to say my favorite series is zombies!!

[@jonathanbates9928]

i definitely get the addiction to buying games you know are going to be bad. its the only reason i bought halo infinite. i knew it was going to fail miserably, but i had to see it for myself. i watched my best friend do this same thing with all the cods. hes bought every single one, even the last few taht were undeniably terrible even before launch. its the fomo of, "what if this is the one that brings it back?"

[@commandermaverick1487]

10:51 BANE?!?

[@facepuncher5998]

do you also have these same issues in regard to fatigue, lack of surprise and or innovation in other media such as movie's, books, podcasts.etc or is this just uniquely towards just video games in general for you? Btw thanks for the content as always. Been around since MW 2019 mythbusters.

[@defendthehouse]

I'd say it's unique for gaming. Both of us have always stayed pretty on top of movies and while there's definitely been a dark Marvel shaped influence on big movies for a while, it feels like we're swinging out of that which is great and also there are just so, so, so many movies to watch and there's never been more outlets to find them. Same for books, which I think both of us have only in the last couple years started to get back into enjoying. But yeah movies and books are just for pure enjoyment and still feel very full of surprises.

[@83joonior]

I feel bad for the people that actually make these games. I'll bet they had some big ambitions, wonderful ideas to add, but then some Boss Hogg cigar smoking executive with dollar sign pupils shot it down and forced them to instead find a way to weasel more cash out of the gamers.

[@Trashboat444]

I had a lot of fun with Suicide Squad. I really liked the mix of movement tech and gunplay and felt i never had a game that had such a satisfying mix of the 2 since Titanfall 2 campaign

[@stephengiann1717]

I played the closed beta for an hour and I thought something was wrong with me, I felt like games weren’t for me anymore. It was THAT boring

[@stephengiann1717]

Then I went back to Elden ring

[@brandonworron1658]

Ill still defend the main game. I had fun with it

[@crazy-acid-trip9765]

I don't wanna come off like a old man but this game gives me a headache and the numbers is overwhelming to me . I hate the colors also . Too much of everything

[@doggobunni]

I think the game is wasted potential of an interesting idea, and it's a shame how much work was obviously put into this with the graphics, facial animations, etc. just for the end result to be so corporate. An increasing trend among games as we can all see. An economic system based on infinitely increasing profits is anti-creativity. It's easier and more predictable to copy what was successful before. Higher ups don't actually care about video games like the actual developers and players do, they just want the big arbitrary number to go up. Video games and every other creative medium deserve so much better than to be bossed around by profit margins

[@Homes23]

Games forgot to be fun. I loved Destiny an Halo for the enemy variety. Too many corners get cut nowadays. Looks at 343 Halo they put in the bare minimum every time.

[@AntMan1997]

I like this game and that’s my opinion that I am allowed to have.

[@VexxtheVoid]

I turned off damage numbers....made it slightly more fun. Its still crap also I only what it was really worth.....30 bucks.

[@confusion8579]

You got a time estimate on the next LASO episode yet?

[@defendthehouse]

No promises but I am expecting to have some sort of update video on LASO before July starts.

[@confusion8579]

@@defendthehouse Nice! Gotta be one of my favorite series you've made

[@featherhead3448]

What is the name of the game at 4:18? Please and thank you!

[@OpusMagenum]

Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts