(Democratic Debate) Bernie Sanders explains Democratic Socialism

Sen. Bernie Sanders explains why he describes himself as a Democratic Socialist at the CNN Democratic Debate in Las Vegas.

[@Sanchan]

CNN: Owned by Time Warner Bernie: Criticizes mainstream media Hillary: $500,000 campaign contribution from Time Warner. That is all.

[@_Biggg_t]

Wow media bias in the flesh folks....

[@zzzz1192]

x2

[@votethebern7560]

+Sanchan Thank you! It seems people are waking up. Not only do they own CNN, but the list goes on! Cinemax, HBO, TNT, TBS, Bleacher Report, NBA.com, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, HLN, DC Comic, and Warner Brothers are also owned by Time Warner. At the end of the day only 4 or 5 companies control everything we see and read. Most of them are our Internet providers also. Kinda scary.

[@lobete]

+Sanchan Adding that CNN claims Hillary won the debate, despite their own online poll having her a good way behind Sanders. Of course you can't see that now because they removed the poll that didn't conform to the story they want to tell.

[@cogen651]

+Sanchan Hillary is being backed by wall street. LOL

[@orokumiwa5664]

He explained social democracy, not the democratic socialism.

[@HammerheadGuitar]

Socialism is when an autocratic government takes your stuff, democratic socialism is us voting to take your stuff. Not really sure which one is worse.

[@prehistoricwatergun0136]

LegoGuy87 Democratic Socialists believe in a representative democracy which is essentially what a republic is.

[@Realbillball]

Come on, this is a matter of potato or potatoe.

[@hernancuevas2310]

finally someone gets it

[@sakawi]

@LegoGuy87 America is a constitutional republic founded on the principles of indirect democracy which is a form of democratic government. Do your research before repeating things that don't make sense.

[@scotchwhisky6094]

None of the countries he listed use democratic socialism, they're social democracies.

[@scotchwhisky6094]

@Jaskaran Singh "Nordic Socialism" isn't a real term but nice try, trying to twist words.

[@Xenospeech]

Jaskaran Singh That’s not socialism that’s capitalism with high taxes with social benefits

[@scotchwhisky6094]

@@Xenospeech Well his only credible source is a youtube video where the likes and dislikes are disabled. Pushing an agenda is all part of the twisted socialists. Also even the guy in the video does a sarcastic gesture when he says "nordic socialism" further proving that it's a skewed term.

[@Xenospeech]

Skywalker Tbh we should have some bits of socialism mixed in with capitalism but socialism by itself is impossible

[@Xenospeech]

Skywalker And even if it was I wouldn’t want to live in a socialist country

[@HI0271]

I love how he never explains what democratic socialism is lol

[@sallysmolich5822]

@Ralph Magliano mansions? hardly

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

Democratic socialism = Communism. That's why he doesn't explain what it is. He just expects the media to hold water for him and make the morons of society believe democratic socialism is something else. Half of what people say is socialism isn't, but one thing is for sure: Bernie Sanders is a communist.

[@xbird532]

Bonzi Buddy Bernie Sanders is most definitely not a socialist. What communist policies does he support?

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

@@xbird532 Socialists and communists are basically the same thing...except communists are willing to go much further than socialists for government controlling the means of production. If you don't think Bernie "Why is there so many deodorants" Sanders isn't a communist, I don't know if you can be helped. He went on vacation in SOVIET RUSSIA to yuck it up with communist friends. He has a history of befriending communist dictators.

[@xbird532]

Bonzi Buddy Give me just one communist policy that he has

[@thatsabadtouch]

I think I must have missed where he defined "democratic socialism".

[@PetteriWar]

It's spouting too good to be true verbal garbage so I wouldnt worry about it.

[@pocketsand76]

@@PetteriWar Dude, I'm literally living in it. Its completely possible.

[@PetteriWar]

@@pocketsand76 what?

[@deebeefr]

@@PetteriWar yeah it's used in Vermont and a lot of Scandinavian countries

[@epa2349]

@@deebeefr None of the Scandinavian countries uses "Democratic socialism". They are all free market Capitalist economy with high taxes on working people that funds their social programs. That's not any kind of socialism.

[@tailung9282]

I love how I got an Adventure Communist ad on this video 🤣

[@dannysegundo5143]

Lmfaoooooo😂

[@thegrimreaper8937]

Bruhhhhh 😂

[@joestewart-paul7181]

🤭🤭

[@morganperry653]

funny how people still don’t get socialism from democratic socialism 😂

[@taj561]

@Joshua Chamberlain no the fuck it wouldn't. We ALREADY spend more in healthcare than other countries who are democratic socialist...so what are you on about?

[@ianmvp1]

The fact of the matter is that socialism promotes lazy ppl. Go to fucking work and stop thinking you’re entitled to every fucking thing. We need to stop with this mentality of what the country can do for me and start teaching the opposite. WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MAKE YOUR COUNTRY BETTER! USA USA WE LOVE THE 🇺🇸

[@texmontana420]

taj561 yea & where is a fuckton of that money going?? MEDICARE. If you said we already spend more than any other country, than how much sense does it make to spend even more money

[@taj561]

@@texmontana420 we wouldnt....you idiot.

[@darkwolf4434]

You know, Democratic is a socialist system with a representive democracy which Bearnie doesn't seem to underdtand, he don't seem to know what ideology he supports and defines social democracy which is used in countries like Sweden and Denmark.

[@sterlingmalloy8849]

“What is democratic socialism?” “THE ECONOMY IS RIGGED AND ITS NOT FAIR!”

[@behnamkeivan4633]

are you saying its not fair when 0.1 procent of your country has all the money.

[@_prestonmarx]

yeah...... and democratic socialism is how we would solve this.... what’s ur point lolll?

[@theusa4052]

The economay is rigged and it’s noht fah.

[@jeremiahbell8682]

@@behnamkeivan4633 I mean people do have a consumption problem and love buying dior and Jordan shoes for no reason especially the poor for some reason

[@markd.9042]

He's not even explaining democratic socialism, he's describing the welfare states of center-right to center-left social democracies. He's getting his terminology confused which is understandable. For example, I myself mix up the terms baseball and basketball despite loving both.

[@Johnnysmithy24]

ITS NOT understandable, because he is misleading a bunch of people into thinking they want socialism

[@markd.9042]

@@Johnnysmithy24 What he's doing is convincing people that socialism is actually social democracy.

[@sdbo7102]

can't wait for the bernie vs donald debate!!

[@zzzz1192]

😆 poor donald

[@zzzz1192]

+Kelly Em4 is paying for the military with taxes is socialism, do you believe we should demolish it?

[@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable.]

+Kelly Em4 You seem to be misinformed. There are differences between a democratic socialism and socialism. There is a huge difference between democratic socialism and communism. The US is a country with socialist components. The US military is funded through socialism. That is an irrefutable fact.

[@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable.]

I see. No actual response. Only ad hominems. Unfortunate. Are you capable of a civil exchange?

[@SmashtheCmachine]

+Kelly Em4 Well, this "shit for brains", who's sick of being lied to by my government, and the only one telling us how we fight back is your all-feared socialist. :)

[@hunterg3899]

When did he even explain except just appeal to emotions.

[@Mike20we]

He literally explained it. It's just free healthcare along with free education and better social problems as well as a progressive income tax for the rich. It's also a fight against corruption mass companies and monopolies and racism a and homophobia and such man ok.

[@herrylaw3196]

@@Mike20we no he didn't haha swap the words and thats what he was talking about

[@herrylaw3196]

@@Mike20we Fight against corruption? He was endorsed by Madura, you know the Venezuela Dictator. And to this day won't call him a dictator. Also switched to Independent party and tried to use the democrats to get votes

[@mikemantle]

"Let the “socialist” snivellers croak, let the bourgeoisie rage and fume, but only people who shut their eyes so as not to see, and stuff their ears so as not to hear, can fail to notice that all over the world the birth pangs of the old, capitalist society, which is pregnant with socialism, have begun."

[@sehlinwilliam]

Please, elect this man. After living in the U.S. for four years, I've seen how "your" society works - Bernie Sanders has ideas that need realization. I wish y'all the best of luck, from a Swede.

[@imogenlw7544]

Socialism is unrealizable because of its inability to develop a method for economic calculation of scarce resources which socialism assume are infinite in quantity. Socialism only distributes what Capitalism creates. After the distribution is complete, people are broke, starving to death & the survivors again resort to capitalism.

[@pvmvertigo7095]

+Imogen LW He's not talking about uprooting capatalism, just expanding inherently socialist programs like social security and public schools.

[@benstevinson764]

Bernie Sanders is an American 🇺🇸 Legend!

[@joelbell7261]

Ben Stevinson 😂😂😂😂 I’m sorry 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m dying pfffff 😂😂😂

[@zek7353]

Who's watching this in 2019 after Bernie had announced his run for 2020? :>

[@aprofessionalgamer5355]

Me. I can't wait to laugh as he falls on his face. Again.

[@bluebandit5586]

Anthony Decesare yep. The thing that scares me is the amount of stupid people who support him and they don’t see that he will bankrupt us.

[@shawnk3278]

Blue Bandit I’m a Dem and I agree 1000%. AOC and Bernie are going to drive out moderate Dems if they ever get anywhere close to the presidency which will cause Republicans to be in control for 30 years.

[@bluebandit5586]

@@shawnk3278 as a libertarian that also scares me, but giving up some social bullshit in order to avoid communism is fantastic

[@justanotherweirdo11]

Yeah and I just realized this was from the last election cycle

[@billmelater6470]

To understand Socialism, see Bastiat's "Legalized Plunder". No, Socialists, you're not moral and you're not virtuous. Charity is a personal act of sacrifice, not an act you force on others through government.

[@RedVelvetBlackleather]

Bill Melater Objectivism all the way. Aye Rand was the one Jew who didn’t want everyone to serve her and the “greater good” the supposed greater good are the low life’s and degenerates. Fuck Bernie

[@mikeg5616]

i love what you said about charity. trump 2020 lets make murica powerful again.

[@Fwazonly]

"We are often told that the poor are grateful for charity. Some of them are, no doubt, but the best amongst the poor are never grateful. They are ungrateful, discontented, disobedient, and rebellious. They are quite right to be so. Charity they feel to be a ridiculously inadequate mode of partial restitution, or a sentimental dole, usually accompanied by some impertinent attempt on the part of the sentimentalist to tyrannise over their private lives. Why should they be grateful for the crumbs that fall from the rich man’s table? They should be seated at the board, and are beginning to know it." OSCAR WILDE.

[@billmelater6470]

@@anastasiamurawski3825 The only greedy person here is you who would anoint themselves with the authority over what they did not have a hand in creating. Truth is, the wealthy have already done far more for the economy as a whole that you ever have. Life isn't fair kid; it's what you make of it. Best you accept that soon. If you're so worried about the homeless, then get off your ass and help. Donate, time money, whatever. Better yet, start a business and give them jobs. But do not sit at your computer whining and bitching for other people to solve the world's woes.

[@billmelater6470]

You've got a lot of buzz words, but not a lot of sense. Now what I'm going to say here is surely going to sound mean to you. However, you must know that I am a pessimist, every day afraid of losing my job and my livelihood to the point of keeping me in a perpetual neurotic state. I am by no means wealthy, but I cherish what I have and will work to keep it so that I might stand on sturdy ground to help others. I will not let the rhetoric you support turn my ground to sand. What I say here and have said is simple and very fundamental point of fact. You are trying to argue for an end result, starting from the sky trying to work back to the ground instead of trying to figure out how to get from the ground to the sky. Thinking you have the right to control and use what is not yours is greedy, regardless of need or want. It is not up to the rich anymore than it is up to another poor person to take care of you or me. Only you can take care of you. Everything else must be gained by trade with consent of both parties, otherwise you're just supporting theft. Any reasoning that places the labor and resources of others at your disposal by right is an argument for slavery. Health Care for example, is a service. If you can't do it to yourself, then someone else has to. For you to think it is a right, is exactly the same as believing someone else's time and labor is yours by right. That is slavery and for that reason, is not a viable option morally or functionally. *"Most wealthy people look after number one and their own, I sure dont see them doing anything for the economy"* That's because you don't have a basic understanding of economics or how wealth is gained in the first place. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs didn't get rich because they forced people at gunpoint to buy a product. The industries that sprouted from their product and the jobs they and those other industries helped usher in is far more valuable as a whole than any singular handout you would cry for. The complete fact is that they have done far more for the economy that you or I ever have and have in fact grown the wealth as a whole. The "wealth pie" is not stagnant, it grows and shrinks depending on economic realities. The idea that someone has to by right do something for you because they have more than you is selfishness of the bad sort and it will get you nowhere. Blaming others is the first step in the wrong direction. Everything starts with you. Someone else having more than you does not mean they stole from you or took from you anymore than it means you deserve any of it. You can argue they're keeping something from you all you want, but the truth is, that none of what they're keeping was yours to begin with so it too falls flat. So you've done what you can within your power which is great and more people should do it. The problem is that many think then that they should be allowed through the gun of the State, force others to do what is in their eyes right which blinds them to their own wrong. You can't be generous or charitable through other people's money. Reaching into someone else's pocket regardless of what you do with the ill gotten gain is still theft. And yes, you have worked a "living wage", given that you are not dead. Actually, you're better off in fact, given that you're even able to communicate with me on KZbin. "Poverty" is relative to time and geography. There are people far worse off than you that see your "unlivable wage" with access and time for the internet is immeasurable wealth. Do not be so self centered. Yes, we are a wealthy nation on a whole, but that does not mean the wealth belongs to you. The nation is not wealthy, the "nation" has no money, only people can have money. Any nation is simply an aggregate of people. If you didn't earn it, there is no argument you can logically and consistently give to reason that you deserve what other people earned. To think you can take by right from "the nation" is in actual fact, the idea that you can take by right from the people in it. The 1% whining is just that; whining. The 1% is not the same set of people year by year. people enter into it and people fall out of it all the time. That level of wealth is not easily obtained and even harder to keep. They don't owe you or me anything. We don't deserve handouts because they have more wealth. Their wealth is not "distributed" to them, it is worked for. And of course, some gain wealth through ill means, but that does not set the stage to keep from others that which was gained fairly anymore than you punish a city because of those that break into houses. The fact of the matter is, that many in fact gain wealth by special privilege from government, the same body you would run to in order to fix all your problems. Again, everything starts and ends with you. You're the one at your own helm. Some people may come along and help and that's fantastic (if not forced) but you are ultimately the one driving your own ship just like everyone else. Someone having more, does not mean it was taken from someone else. The wealth you see around you was NEVER created by someone sitting around yelling at other people to pay their way for them. It was built by people who had a drive, had a talent and worked for it. The reality of the world is death and suffering. Only constant and intelligent work brings you out of that hell. Just because you're out now, does not mean you can't fall right back in. Eating just once is not enough. You will need to eat again and again, so you must labor again and again. The wealth around you is largely a fiction and can fall at any moment either on its own or by those seeking to pull it towards them with hopes of rising up, erroneously thinking that the wealth they grope for is incapable of sinking right down with them. Your ideology is that of a crab in a bucket, pulling down those that seek to rise out which keeps you all in the bucket. Instead of pulling them down, look at what they do. Do what they do to the best of your ability and let others do the same. You can only ever try, but results cannot be guaranteed anymore than you or I have a guarantee of not dying today or tomorrow.

[@thelonias1814]

Lmao. Reading all these comments in 2017.

[@NormanconEVE]

reading these comments in late 2018... oh my Burnie or his followers don't know what they are talking about.

[@DonkeyKickingMC]

Reading these comments in 2019. They still don't know what they're talking.

[@jamesmcdaid1260]

2019 here

[@luchthonn]

@@DonkeyKickingMC Care to explain?

[@luchthonn]

@@NormanconEVE You as well

[@cyberferretX]

"What Democratic Socialism is is ***insert long winded monologue about problems with America with no explanation of what democratic socialism is or how it would solve those problems***" "cheers and applause" seems about right.

[@josemarcosr8746]

Free healthcare, free education and higher taxes for rich people.

[@Nickr1497]

@@josemarcosr8746 only raising taxes for the wealthy to support socialist programs doesn't work you have to raise the taxes of everyone and everything

[@TheLeahacer]

I am so glad he answered those questions. .. o.O

[@wolfstar675]

It's funny how a lot of people call Sanders a communist and then they start quoting Lenin and shit. What he wants is a mix of socialism and capitalism.

[@SimpMcSimpy]

+Enrique Godinez There is no such thing my friend. At the end you end up with socialism.

[@wolfstar675]

David Kupich No. Solving the problems with the current capitalism isn't getting rid of capitalism. The US is socialist already in many ways. Democratic socialism isn't Lenin socialism.

[@zzzz1192]

+Nicolas Calderon hey don't mention the truth! The military isn't supported by socialism!

[@Boufu]

Funny enough, that's what we have in the US already. He just wants to embrace more socialistic aspects in his campaign is the thing

[@HammerheadGuitar]

Why does he call himself a socialist if he wants a mixed system? The USSR was socialist, Scandinavia is capitalist.

[@levipete84]

Everyone one of you that really thinks Bernie can help us is lost .

[@siryeti8195]

@The Cadaver Trump is better than any other democrat out there

[@wfurney]

The word you're looking for is "crony" capitalism Mr. Sanders

[@junshiiida6689]

After studying European politics I can confidently say Bernie Sanders is a mainstream center-left politician.

[@FormedUnique]

He never answered the question

[@stephenbryant5251]

That’s because he’s uneducated.

[@JokahFACE]

What he basically said: "FREE SHIT FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE HAVING LOTS OF MONEY IS EVIL."

[@bloodwargaming3662]

If your iq is sub 30 that's what you will understand

[@nuttintoseehere9141]

Never had a job, never will.

[@MiScuciMAN]

Why would someone vote for this guy?

[@Kang5030]

+Dramer Why wouldn't someone vote for this guy?

[@tomoe4898]

+Kang5030 Why would you vote for this guy?

[@chickenortheegg5229]

+Inojin Yamanaka Why wouldn't you vote for this guy?

[@Kang5030]

Inojin Yamanaka I'd vote for him because I'm a Social Democrat who loves his policies, and believes he's our best bet for good governance. Set, serve. Ball's in your court now.

[@tomoe4898]

Kang5030 Oh my, you don't know what's the difference between social democracy and democratic socialism? I lost interest, goodbye.

[@johnathanvale8634]

"When you say socialism are you talking about government controlling the means of production" Bernie says "are you saying that I don't want everyone to get a hamburger and a house and healthcare" "no Bernie just answer the damn question"

[@arctic_shadow578]

That is legit justin Trudeau lol he can't awnser a yes or no question

[@mikellasa]

He literally said no. This is common knowledge. Stop twisting words to fit your agenda

[@johnathanvale8634]

@@mikellasa what is my agenda again?

[@johnathanvale8634]

@@mikellasa I actually have looked into a lot of policy prescriptions and he has talked about nationalizing a lot of natural resources. In the medical care plan is also direct literal Central planning. So either you're misrepresenting what he believes or he was lying when he said it

[@BidenCrashenomics]

@@johnathanvale8634 you had the evil agenda of wanting a carrier politician to actually answer a question about what they mean. EEEEEEVIL I SAY!!!!!!! 😂

[@gehrigcupo3728]

"im not a capitalist, im against the 1% who control all the wealth" says the millionaire.

[@FriarJoe66]

Yes, he became a millionaire after selling a book after championing workers rights for his entire life, sounds genuine to me

[@gehrigcupo3728]

@@FriarJoe66 lol all he did was go from hating millionaires to billionaires, total hypocrite who doesn’t practice what he preaches. The guy has 3 houses for Christ sake while the people he claims to care SO much about barely get by. All he cares about is political power that’s why he says all that bullshit like supporting Cuba, are you fucking kidding me? Castro and Guevara murdered thousands of people for being “threats” and starved much more and this clown says we have a lot to learn from them🤨. Yikes.

[@randomxstory]

Hahahahaha love it

[@tmann0901]

@@FriarJoe66 oh that's very capitalist of him

[@FriarJoe66]

@@tmann0901 selling your own labor is not capitalist,,,

[@SmashtheCmachine]

I felt the Bern the day he announced, and there's no other with the conviction and planning and honesty of Sanders!

[@geyck]

Well, this was a country founded on hard work. If you take money away from people who succeed, what's the motivation for massing a business and hiring people? And then give it to people not doing anything, again, what's the motive to work?

[@NuclearHaggis]

Every country is built on stealing from its workforce The question is. Do you steal from those who have less, or those who have more?

[@md-lc8gq]

The top 10% didn't become rich by working hard but by simply inheriting

[@aurexblaze6019]

tabascosauce Man steve job was middle class and became a billionare stfu

[@JimmyLeiper]

geyck 0 because the billionaires are the same people that are automating jobs and outsourcing them to other countries leaving more people unemployed.

[@MrAtlfan21]

AuReX Blaze and Steve jobs believes that he shouldn’t make as much money that he made

[@theinstigatorr]

This guy fails econ101 but gets A+ in libtard100

[@theinstigatorr]

+MrBeautyandthebeats unless you have a graduate degree in economics you don't know shit about the subject. You might have that I'm not sure of your circumstances but that seems unlikely because you probably would have said so immediately

[@theinstigatorr]

+Megarational you already signal how little you know about finance, economics and the jurisprudence behind a private division by thinking his policies are worthwhile in the first place. I don't need to prove anything to morons like you, I comment here for fun

[@theinstigatorr]

+MrBeautyandthebeats I take back what I said earlier about needing a graduate degree to know jack shit about economics since GMU heterodoxtards technically meet that definition. I'm not going to respond to any of the points that you probably think are amazing since there's nothing for me to get anything out of it. However despite that I want you to know two things, firstly that you don't have the intelligence to do an actual economics program and secondly your qualifications are worthless both within the profession and outside

[@stevenh4797]

I'm excited about Bernie's candidacy as never before for anyone in my life, and I'm in my forties. I also can't help but just really like the guy for who he is. However, I think he can dramatically improve his efforts at countering irrational socialism-phobia. I've thought about this quite a bit, so this is not a short comment. The "socialism question" is both a question he is frequently asked in interviews and for a substantial number of voters arguably the largest obstacle to their really giving his candidacy consideration (an obstacle those that do not want Bernie to succeed repeatedly try to amplify, often with little regard for intellectual honesty). Bernie's consistent answer to this question is fairly indirect, a listing of countries with democratic socialist governments and a praising of some of the social programs they have. It generally begins, (paraphrasing) "when we look at countries like Sweden, Norway,..." I think this answer would be far stronger if it were preceded by a statement that directly addresses the assumptions about socialism and democratic socialism that lead to the quite widespread phobic distaste and dismissive reaction; assumptions that as I understand it have nothing to do with what Bernie wants for America. So, I think it's worth having a discussion about how the answer can be improved. I certainly am not trying to suggest that Bernie say something he does not believe. Rather, I'm confident that Bernie can begin the answer with a clear and direct indication that he is talking about something useful and complementary to our current capitalism, and that he is as opposed to totalitarianism, and nationalizing industry as his audience. here's my take on what this might sound like from Bernie (apologies for the length)... "Good question. Okay, let's talk about democratic socialism. You'll notice I say democratic socialism. Authoritarian regimes have used the word socialism, but of course this is not what we want (by the way, authoritarian regimes have also used the word Republic, but we don't dismiss Republicans because of it). We're a democracy and I will fight to defend that not seek to change that. So do I mean the replacement of capitalism? No, I don't mean that at all. Capitalism has brought us wonderful innovation and great material wealth as a nation. But we all know over the last 30-40 years the wealth of the nation has grown enormously, but the people as a whole are not doing as well as they did in the past. That's because capitalism run free over time develops very real unpleasant consequences for us as a nation... like huge concentrations of wealth and power that invite corruption both in business and politics. These both have resulted in the tremendous increase in wealth and income inequality people everywhere I've gone around our country are all too aware of when I bring it up... they are living the reality of the many having less and the few having more. I've seen pragmatic successful responses to these real world unpleasant byproducts of capitalism in countries like Sweden, Norway... [insert usual points] ... so by democratic socialism, I don't mean some kind of worship of an ideology, neither a blind worship of a capitalism or socialism, but a pragmatic collaboration of the two." Would love to hear feedback on whether you also think this is a key area Bernie can improve, and if so, how you think he can best improve his response.

[@stgodless]

+Steven H you're right. He needs to address a whole bunch of people who automatically associate socialism with communism. It would also be worth mentioning that the "miracle of the loaves and fishes" is nothing but socialism in action!

[@AutonomousNursery]

+Steven H - I agree, and so does Bernie = www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article39804459.html Stay tuned!

[@stevenh4797]

***** yes we have about 300 million people... why wouldn't it scale up?

[@stevenh4797]

@Robert, I'm saying, why exactly do you think programs that work in a country of 6 million would not work in one with 300 million if the amount of GDP per person is the same?

[@stevenh4797]

Robert Shaw, there have been plenty of studies comparing the quality of health care country to country... and guess what, despite the U.S. having the most expensive health care (and being the only major country on earth not to offer universal health care), the U.S. simply does not come out on the top (or even near the top) of any of these studies.

[@biglarry862]

I’m re watching this 5 years later and I can’t believe he jus basically in directly said he’s a socialist but slaps democratic on there to make it sound good

[@Vlasko60]

But what does he mean by socialist? That is what is important, not the label.

[@ZacTheConqueror]

"socialism = communism" dumbass

[@WasingerKori]

Every other country can afford health care and free tuition because they don't have to compensate with a military budget.

[@GoombaFTW]

If Cuba can afford healthcare and their people live on a resourceless small island, I am certain that the United States has the capacity to do so as well. Private health care ends up being more expensive and inefficient than public anyways so their can really be no reasonable opposition to public healthcare.

[@celestialstorm3462]

Still can’t believe this was 7 years ago 🥲

[@CarbonGlassMan]

Ok, he did not define Democratic socialism and Denmark is NOT socialist. Lol

[@hanova61]

Even the prime minister of Denmark spoke up on that kzbin.info/www/bejne/iICaqJqJatmXsJY

[@kathybetzen1599]

Vladimir Lenin called his practice of Marx's communism DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM...

[@SlenderGamer56]

Lol

[@jashieu2105]

Wow 😭😭😭

[@coerfjoe1]

Bernie doesn't need to explain democratic socialism to those educated before 1970 when civics was dropped from public schools. It is found in the policies of FDR who is never discussed by Republicans. FDR's 2nd State of the Union address introduced the rights of remunerative work etc. They were considered for adoption in 1948 until Nixon in 1970. For your further education, read Lincoln's 2nd State of the Union address where he discusses the importance of capital or labor. To paraphrase him, he said they are both important, but without labor there is no capital! These are forgotten or unknown today so corporations go untaxed, the wealthy untaxed, with no consideration for the condition of the people which leads to Citizens United absurdity and unregulated Wall Street. Know your history and your rights in a decent society not a Hobbesian one.

[@YungTsundere]

Bernie catch this vote my nigga

[@NoahAyala]

+12 bricks lmao ! . . . he about to catch both our votes !

[@zzzz1192]

+NoahAyala he better get more hands because I just threw another one. (We need to vote in the primaries to get him as the nomination for the Democratic Party, voteforbernie.org has the information on individual states )

[@YungTsundere]

***** k cool

[@maximusbradley6261]

I love how when he was asked if he was a capitalist the first time he just shifted the question and brought up the Republicans. Then he says he not a capitalist and thinks that the people in the 1/10th of the 1% shouldn't own the same amount as the bottom 90%, but he owns 3 houses. Give me a break. God Bless

[@khaos5085]

He also used to hate Billionaires till he became one. He's a hypocrite.

[@waleednassar6975]

@@khaos5085 Bernie Sanders is worth 1 million dollars, and owning more than one house is called called investing in real estate.

[@khaos5085]

@@waleednassar6975 Oh I must have mixed the two but yeah Bernie used to hate Millionaires and Billionaires.

[@YasinKhan-bf5xs]

@@waleednassar6975 So he's investing with his money/property like the top 1% and he's hating on capitalism? he's a hypocrite who just tries to act as if he has the moral high ground

[@Fwazonly]

God doesn't exist. When you die nothing will happen. Try to make this life a little better for your friends, family, and society rather than being a smug asshole.

[@Chubbs57181]

"SOCIALISM only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it." -Ronald Reagan

[@franciscohaske9120]

Capitalism works in a place where infringing basic human rights is OK and the solution to many problems is hated because of decades of propaganda: AMERICA, or hell.

[@franciscohaske9120]

Christopher Draper that’s the point. Chile is capitalistic. China is capitalistic. Venezuela, believe it or not, is not socialist. Also, the great Fall of Venezuela was made by a crushing Market, not because of some Welfare policies.

[@nessyness031]

@@franciscohaske9120 China is communist. The government controls everything. Chile is socialist, Venezuela was socialist and turning and more comunist as time goes. Let's say The USA goes socialist do you really believe the governt will have the ppls best interest? I could answer that very easily with a resounding NO. As soon as the socialist representative get into power we as a society will be on borrowed time. Socialist and communism has been throw in to all countries that were at one point thriving and after that "experiment all go down hill" in one way or another

[@kuo8088]

nessyness031 that’s why socialism can NEVER BE IMPLEMENTED BY GOVERNMENT. The only way socialism has a chance, is if it is brought in by the free market, when it succeeds and beats out capitalist models. That is the only way to transform a capitalist society into a socialist one. You could throw money at it just to get it started, but you can‘t force the change in. What Bernie is doing, is communism and not socialism. Heavy welfare is inherently more communist in ideal, as it is closer to redistribution based on need and not merit.

[@kuo8088]

nessyness031 and no, the free market and socialism are supposed to be intertwined if you want socialism to work. You cannot have government intervention or you will have what the Soviets has.

[@SunnyAdi]

Socialism makes everyone equally poor, "What good could socialism do to the poor, it had made the "Rich" even poorer".

[@ON-YT]

People in Denmark don't call themselves socialist.

[@Forbidden-translations]

Gotta love all the conservatives going "lol econ 101" yet can't point to anything specific wrong with his policy.

[@solberg3866]

Do you have patience for specifics? Just say a word. What's wrong with his polices? they are immoral in addition of being impractical. His polices eradicate the relation between effort and result, between production & distribution. Under his socialist policies, the magnitude of the share which is assigned for the use of each citizen is quite independent of the value of the service he renders. Payment for work becomes quite arbitrary. Economic calculation as such is impossible and that's important if the production in the country is to result in a gain not in lose. Socialism wastes more & more scarce resources with time by mis-allocating them to places where they are less-urgently needed. His polices eliminate the incentives to work, to improve, to innovate, to save, invest etc. When you punish growth, development and success you're specifically destroying the economy & the buying power of your money.

[@myunself9976]

+Forbidden-Translations they always give the shallowest arguments without any content, it's getting so boring. "socialist! communist! cuba! venezuela!" yawn.

[@zzzz1192]

+FRance Alec America is corrupt #citizenunited #glass-steagall #nafta #tpp

[@leadhesh]

Read an economics book. Freedom leads to prosperity. People act in their self interest: that is the basis of economics. The more you tax their income, the less incentive there is to prosper economically. The more you let them keep, the more incentive their is to succeed, and also the easier it is for everyone to succeed. If you tax something, you get less of it. If you give people money to do something, you get more of it. That is the basis of economics.

[@karlmarx508]

leadhesh this is not true, also something tells me youve never read up on Marxian economics

[@paladin400]

FEEL THE BERN!!

[@imogenlw7544]

Socialism means Slavery

[@twiggymorris406]

+Imogen LW How?

[@Maltcider]

Twiggy Morris cuz 'murka! (But capitalist wage-slavery is okay)

[@zzzz1192]

+Imogen LW social democracy is a lot different from the traditional definition of socialism. #debatewithbernie

[@zach4panthers]

+paladin400 “CuteSpaniel” "Feel the Bern" sounds like an STD...

[@hcortez1990]

He never explained what his socialism is about he only said what its about morally

[@konami1979]

You don't need to be a socialist to criticize the income gap. Bernie still didn't say a damn thing about how democratic socialism functions and its core principle of gradually eliminating the private sector.

[@hungrycaterpillar4831]

He's got heart.

[@powerpointepic1122]

And literally no brain

[@stephenbryant5251]

@@powerpointepic1122 Yep.

[@herrylaw3196]

But missing the brains

[@wesleywindham1880]

Denmark Norway and Sweden are not socialist flat out

[@Chrissy717]

He did not say that...

[@GreenGiant400]

They have Democratic socialism... The thing Bernie is talking about here.

[@Chrissy717]

@@GreenGiant400 No. They have a social Democracy.

[@GreenGiant400]

@@Chrissy717 I see. My mistake.

[@BlikeNave]

Tough questions but even better answers!

[@herrylaw3196]

This didn't age well haha

[@_romulus4336]

Denmark's prime minister literally said that they aren't socialist.

[@reneenal7535]

uh.... he did not explain the difference (there is none). He just bashed the rich.

[@tonygrampsamerica]

I wish he really knew what he was talking about

[@Nickr1497]

Amen

[@peakhelliw1509]

unpopular opinion here, democratic socialism is socialism

[@NerdLady100]

This guy is a monster.

[@etherealsoulgazer]

Bro is a social democrat

[@mikd1420]

Democrats need young voters because they are easily persuaded!

[@threedog8164]

Dear Bernie-"socialism only works in 2 places, heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it"- Ronald Reagan

[@Thisleekky]

socialism has never failed in any country that adopted it, look it up people.

[@diananieva6764]

This LeekKy Venezuela

[@thomasc1830]

Bernie's senile memory seems to have forgotten the part where he describes 'democratic socialism'. Allow me to explain it for him: Democratic socialism is socialism spelled with "democratic_" before it.

[@ceciliagonzalez9361]

EXACTLY!!!!!

[@MarkLipka]

Humor is usually funny because it's truthful or accurate. In this case, your comment is funny because it's silly. Thank you.

[@10003159]

Labels mean nothing. It's about policy positions. You can be for anything and call yourself whatever you want.

[@TheWhiteOneGaming]

#Feelthebern

[@berniesanders9867]

TheWhiteOneGaming this didn’t age well

[@MrDudeBroGuy]

Got donged by someone who should have been in Federal prison. That's when you know you don't know what the hell going on.

[@cameronash5492]

I'm not feeling it.

[@poctordepper4469]

Uhh... income inequality is the STUPIDEST ISSUE.

[@scibus2593]

Boscod • I dare you to go tell a single mom who works multiple jobs to sustain a basic living for her child/children that income inequality is a stupid issue.

[@strattonkersten886]

Typical politician. Didn’t even answer the questions. Danced around it.

[@gudboah4688]

This is one of my problems with Bernie. He uses the wrong terminology. Bernies polices are social democratic, not socialism. They are similar to FDR’s policies. While that may not seem like a big deal, it actually is. Conservatives constantly call him a communist now slander him, and if Bernie was to simply present himself as an FDR style president he would be taken much more seriously.

[@beastygeorge]

How can you not love this man??? =)

[@mr.puncakeagent4789]

By knowing that he is a socialist.

[@gabenewell3955]

@@mr.puncakeagent4789 your an idiot

[@supersteph6171]

@@mr.puncakeagent4789 Yes, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing is it?

[@joymanchis]

@Itzva1_1 i agree, this country is built on exploitation. We cant just go around providing basic human needs to our citizens, we have to allow the rich to abuse the labor of the lower class to maximize profits for themselves and spend our tax dollars on pointless wars in other countries

[@herrylaw3196]

By listening to him

[@debbiematzen8633]

stop hating people for being rich. it's the American dream baby

[@scibus2593]

Debbie Matzen sorry to break this to you, but the American dream is a lie. Rich people get rich by dumb luck, and by exploitation of workers. I dare to go and tell a single parent working multiple jobs that their lives are shitty because they "didn't work hard enough".

[@napoleon3927]

No country is complete capitalist right now, nor communist, nor socialist, nor monarchist, nor feudalist. This is not socialism; this guy is just trying to have a government of the people, for the people, and by the people.

[@TheJuicebox625]

#feeltheBERN

[@futuramafan0423]

I don’t feel anything

[@luisguzman2598]

What a stupid statement

[@jaclynsr77]

One question, and it seems no one cares to ask: Who, How, What is going to pay for all of these "free" programs?

[@arntseaj]

These aren't "free" programs. The problem is is that many corporate business evade paying taxes through a corrupt system and take unneccesary wealth from the people who earned it in the first place. Statistically speaking I'm assuming you're part of the 99%. Do you want these companies that control everything and who evade taxes at the expense of us paying them to continue? Or do you want them to start paying their legal taxes as American companies and using those funds to expand social security, public education and healthcare? These aren't crazy and "free" ideas. They're how the system should work where EVERYONE pays their fair share in taxes and we use those taxes to fund beneficial programs.

[@SimpMcSimpy]

+arntseaj that was not his question... Tax evasion is one thing and "free" social programs something completely different.

[@arntseaj]

+David Kupich I mean to say that he would essentially use the higher taxes on rich companies and individuals/taxes owed that have been evaded to help fund these programs. Obviously our middle-class taxes would be a large part of it, too. I don't wish for people to think that these are "free" programs. We would all have to pitch in and contribute.

[@jaclynsr77]

So, the answer is taxes, more taxes, and more taxes, or a collectivness of giving through taxes by all people? Sorry- I pay enough taxes as it is. In countries where they have a vast array of social programs, the people pay well over 75% of their income in federal taxes to cover the programs. Sorry, that's not the answer.

[@GoombaFTW]

Taxing Big Corporations and Wall Street. Poor rich people amiright, all they wanted was a 4th Lamborghini but now they have to pay taxes to save lives through healthcare and educate American youth through free college. What a burden.

[@kmrust3056]

Why do people think that the big companies providing all the jobs will stay here if we tax them 70%?

[@das_it_mane]

This man should've been president

[@herrylaw3196]

No, no he shouldn't have. He was endorsed by Madura, you know the Venezuela Dictator, and then switched to Independent but still using the democratic party. But I don't mind socialism ill make the same as a doctor and ill be playing video games all day

[@brazapride]

sorry about my ignorance... is bernie sanders socialism the same as marxist socialism/communism?? and where has socialism actually worked ?

[@JuanPaulFilms1138]

He listed countries.

[@AuroraBorehalis]

He isn't a true Socialist, he is actually a Social Democrat. Which is still capitalist.

[@AuroraBorehalis]

***** That is Democratic Socialism. Not Social Democracy.

[@AuroraBorehalis]

Not even. Social Democrats usually are Centre-left and capitalists. Democratic Socialists are far-left and socialists. That's like saying Conservativism and Fascism are the same thing.

[@luramedina553]

IT HAS NEVER FUCKING WORKED LOOK AT VENEZUELA I LIVE THERE AND I CAN'T FIND FOOD

[@michaelhiggins2562]

For Bernie Democratic Socialism = equates = free stuff.

[@gregorbegger9291]

I don't think so. He'll collapse the economy

[@Energysunn2215]

Democracy and socialism does not go hand in hand

[@trvth1s]

''democratic socialism'' is a new fancy name for the same old thing. Hugo Chavez called it democratic socialism. Greece callled it democratic socialism. Norwegian countries also call it democratic socialism, but they do have capitalism and lucky for them, they have the largest oil reserves in Europe and very low population, gas/oil reserves pay for their socialism. Not every other country has that privilege.

[@rickyzhang]

I searched very hard to look for Bernie’s definition of Democratic Socialism. But I found nothing. He always defined Democratic Socialism by criticizing the problem of capitalism without giving a clear idea on how to build his ideal world. The capitalism operates like a machine. If there is a problem in the machin, the communists will destroy it rather than fix it. I hope he can say it out loud that he would nationalize the mean of production in his debate rather than promising college debt forgiveness or Medicare for all.

[@4477MAJ]

Plz get off the internet

[@LordOfTruth830]

I'll love to end socialism 😀

[@finlayoshea8406]

The reason why social democracy works in Scandinavia is because of these few fundamental reasons: They have Very low corruption, they have a very low population, they have an abundance of natural resources, they are in a located in a region which faces virtually no natural disasters, they have a very low obesity rate and a strong work ethic.

[@tomstepp3954]

Since when is private property immoral?

[@scibus2593]

Tom Stepp since it deprived workers of the true value of their labour, which was since you had feudal lords ruling over peasant farmers and stealing the resources that they didn't work for (basically since the dawn of recorded history). Now we have the Bourgeoisie that fill essentially the same role, but can no longer legally keep you as prisoner on their private property, so need to use sneakier tactics to alienate you from your labour, whilst telling you that you COULD escape this meaningless situation if you "worked hard enough".

[@ignaz7612]

Bernie Sanders in a Nutshell : Im part of the 2 Percent, which obviously makes me better than the 1 percent, and that means i dont need to donate my money.

[@lmaobozo_]

When I was 16 I thought Bernie was a terrible choice. I’m 20 and wish this man would have been the president in my lifetime. Democratic socialism is the economy of the future.

[@getparadox]

Now that Sweden's population has grown to over 9 million, they're having problems sustaining all of those public benefits. Denmark is still only around 5.7 million people.

[@johnpieloio5313]

So what? Germany has 82 million people and works just as well as Denmark with the same public benefits.

[@getparadox]

+John Pieloio And yet Sweden is cutting back.

[@FreebornJohnLillburne]

The man doesn’t even know that he’s not talking about democratic socialism. He’s talking about a market economy with larger social safety nets.

[@Rogdub]

All the people saying that he should leave if he want to live in a "socialist" country should know that many emmigrate from the US to Europe to live in a "socialist" country.

[@redwithblackstripes]

If people really understood what socialism is about they would realise that themselves are much closer to socialism than they think.

[@Rogdub]

Yeah, democratic socialism is a political position, not an economic one. That's why he says that he is a social democrat when they ask him if he is a capitalist. I think he should explain more on that topic, because it confuses people. He is just as capitalistic as every American. He wants to rig the system so it favors the middle class and small business. Today's american capitalism in rigged so it favors the top 1%.

[@player276]

+Rogdub "oday's american capitalism in rigged so it favors the top 1%." Someone with no job and absolutely no skills has access to schools, food, housing, medicine etc. Im sorry to burst your bubble, but the current system benefits the poor. They live far beyond their means because of the rich. Someone with their skill in Africa would be working in a sweatshop for less than a dollar per day.

[@redwithblackstripes]

player276 You are contradicting yourself , how a system rigged to favor the 1% would benefit the poor?

[@Rogdub]

player276 Seriously we all know what "access to medicin and schooling" means in the US. There are thousands of horror stories of about the healthcare system on the net. Poor people have to live beyond their means since they are not paid a living wages. People working a Wallmart need food stamps by the government. Education is freakishly expensive. US is becoming more and more like a feudal society.

[@nickbehrooz596]

I've done my research and I'm not saying this because I am a conservative.. If he gets elected we are screwed!

[@raycity1234]

I notice he does not spread his cash around to help the poor. All talk no action.

[@leonmorgan5659]

I think it reflects quite badly on the American left-wing when even their Leader doesn’t know the distinction between a capitalist mixed economy and socialism! he’s blatantly talking about social Democratic mixed economies while mislabelling it a d ‘democratic socialism’ And the only reason I can think of is because they sound similar ! maybe these terms need to be renamed to make it easy for Americans to understand!

[@ahsath]

Yeah Chávez said the same here on Venezuela, dont let him get to power

[@johnqpublic1]

Mind your own business and focus on your own country's problems, not ours.

[@tradingquebec943]

Reading this in 2019. LMFAO

[@chhive]

Anderson likes questioning Bernie because he is the only one who answers his questions and offers more knowledge.

[@rhianimal19]

Bernie lost the nomination to Killary the moment she ridiculed Democratic Socialism in Denmark, and he didn't respond. Put a fork in him

[@256amir]

I support Bernie in everything except for his Anti-Capitalism. Capitalism is the reason why America is so great.

[@fluxypoo]

im voting bernie

[@solberg3866]

+Eon Flux Sanders believes in a big central government, where the federal government takes more and more, controls everything in our lives and picks winners and losers, a system of democracy without democracy. There is no socialism.

[@fluxypoo]

+Sol Berg id still have that over a corporate oligarchy that buys our politicians with super pacs and lobbyists. were already in corporate socialism, the biggest most profitable companies, some we even bailed out with trillions of dollars, are paying nothing in taxes. thats right, you yourself paid more than bank of america in taxes :]

[@solberg3866]

Envy is an ugly thing

[@eagleeyez1]

+Sol Berg is it so black and white though? i don't see how big central government could result in what you claim. Care to elaborate?

[@myunself9976]

+Sol Berg nonsense, nothing to do with big government, the emphasis is on policies not size of government. but how typical is it that the counter arguments are based on association fallacy instead of actually discuss issues. do you ever actually think about policies instead of freaking out over titles? although i suspect that your perspective is so shallow anyway that i don't know why i am wasting my time here looking for an actual profound debate.

[@razkava9507]

Whos gonna tell him that sweden and denemark are not socialists

[@hanova61]

The prime minister of Denmark himself kzbin.info/www/bejne/iICaqJqJatmXsJY

[@eaneanterry8033]

you want to know why people are rich because they work hard

[@adityaunni420]

Me: Alexa tell me a joke Alexa: Socialism is the best economic system in the world. 😂🤣😂

[@MrBiscuit75]

Preach on Bernie!!!

[@cpsclan2447]

So it’s basically socialism? And it’s close to communism

[@davisk8701]

Want free travel, food, college and stuff? Join the military instead of begging for handouts.

[@davisk8701]

Also the wage gap is a proven myth, sorry Hillary.

[@c93]

These things are not handouts, you imbecile These are necessities rhat should be given out as a right especially because of the high cost of living, social inequality , and low wage jobs, homelessness, and etc. Educate yourself and learn to have some compassion.