What did Alphacool do here? Water Block Roundup 2023

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der8auer EN

der8auer EN

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@LawrenceTimme
@LawrenceTimme Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to test older water block generations to see the progress. I still use my ek supremacy evo
@olivierwolphjoseph2329
@olivierwolphjoseph2329 Жыл бұрын
Currently using a Ek Phoenix 😅😎
@bchurch19
@bchurch19 Жыл бұрын
I only replaced my 15 year old EK Supreme HF recently 😂
@sumtingwong665
@sumtingwong665 Жыл бұрын
Using the same block as well!
@Tealc2323
@Tealc2323 Жыл бұрын
I use EK-Supremacy EVO too and I wish to know if it's worth upgrading.
@spaghettilocomotive
@spaghettilocomotive Жыл бұрын
I recently swapped out my Supremacy Evo for the new velocity2+direct die conversion kit for my 12900k, but the block or direct die part was pure garbage, the old supremacy evo cooled better than after delidding and liquid metal. Safe to say I wish I could turn back time and just keep it stock with the old block.
@DerangedCoconut808
@DerangedCoconut808 Жыл бұрын
I always find EK to be the SnapOn of the watercooling industry. Big money for identical or comparable performance to lower priced products. you are mostly paying for the name just like SnapOn or Matco tools. (old mechanic here, thats the closest analogy i can relate to)
@wudruffwildcard252
@wudruffwildcard252 Жыл бұрын
EKs answer totally confirmed what I believe what EK does with every product. EK doesn‘t aspire to be the best, their business model is to be the first. Because they know enthusiasts who are the early adopters buy the first available water cooler!
@96kylar
@96kylar Жыл бұрын
They also will swap for the best
@Jeff.55649
@Jeff.55649 11 ай бұрын
1-2 c difference between all blocks, lmao. Doesn't matter what block you buy. But haters gonna hate!
@pcodyssey41
@pcodyssey41 10 ай бұрын
@@Jeff.55649 1-2c worse for a $250 block vs a $50 block, simps gonna simp.
@Jeff.55649
@Jeff.55649 10 ай бұрын
@@pcodyssey41 haha someone's mad cuz I'm right, lmao
@pcodyssey41
@pcodyssey41 10 ай бұрын
@@Jeff.55649 you're right that EK's $250 block performs within 1-2c of a $50 Chinese competitor, still trying to figure out why you're bragging about that.
@a5cent
@a5cent Жыл бұрын
Why this dude doesn't have a million subscribers in beyond me. IMHO the best tech channel on YT.
@hokiturmix
@hokiturmix Жыл бұрын
Aron Ra-'s videos about atheist rants have millions of views.. About biology is just a fraction of that.
@marinipersonal
@marinipersonal Жыл бұрын
Because, sadly, most people prefer shallow goofy approach. The laziness to learn and think. Is a long curve, but worth, given the willingness and time required. But as I’ve mentioned earlier, a goofy dropping a 2k dollars GPU is funny for some.
@kidShibuya
@kidShibuya Жыл бұрын
Because other tech channels would take this result and make the thumb EK IS RIPPING YOU OFF! Then rant rant rant in the video till the fanboys are all fired up. Nobody is really interested in facts, just drama.
@ItalianMetalHED
@ItalianMetalHED Жыл бұрын
@@marinipersonal linus tech tips channel is proof of this! gamers nexus should have 15mil given his attention to detail and proper lab testing like debaur. Linus is quirky and annoying and people are drawn to his antics. I found him annoying.
@arkratos3727
@arkratos3727 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing a round up like this. I remember the radiator round up about 10 years ago and that was super helpful for the community. Hope to see more coverage like this and hopefully every few years or so. Thank you again!
@GS0CK6
@GS0CK6 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Finally someone made the test. And thanks for confirming to me that the Heatkiller is basically the best block and only at 80 euro. Im done with EKWB and this video confirms it. Also can you mind telling me what quick connect fittings you use? thanks.
@marinipersonal
@marinipersonal Жыл бұрын
EK is not too bad. Performance average, design is good, but is waaaaaay overpriced, also quality control is poor. Shipping active backplate with longer screws that wouldn’t fit as desired, cracking the bridge between the blocks (stress), distro with over tighten or not tighten enough, same issue for GPU blocks. Let’s not forget the DOA RGB strips or the flipped jet plates. Apart from that, is fine. 😂
@luckerNo01
@luckerNo01 Жыл бұрын
Im interested in those quick connect fittings too! What are those?
@someusername121
@someusername121 Жыл бұрын
Ek has been shit for 10 years but they sponsor KZbinrs so kids who are new and don’t know better think they’re good.
@undefwun2135
@undefwun2135 Жыл бұрын
Great news on the Heatkillers. I just found a local (Aussie) shop that has these in. Hoping to upgrade my now aging (6.5) years system and pretty much an almost full Watercool components loop (res, cpu, gpu, rads) on my wish list spreadsheet.
@CoRy35744
@CoRy35744 Жыл бұрын
The fittings look like Koolance QD3
@suff528
@suff528 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I would love to see the same type of video about radiators.
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
Billet Labs definitely should have contacted you instead
@ayah922
@ayah922 Жыл бұрын
@der8auer EN Pleassse do it. I know in a vacuum choosing LTT was the right business decision (assuming they wouldn't mistest it and slander it) but I would love to see Roman's opinion as an engineer. Neither Steve from GN, Jayz2cents, or any other youtube have the machining experience Roman has and that should be one of the main things to be evaluated. Aesthetic finish, fluid dynamics, craftsmanship, performance, and value. I have no clue what gives Linus the right to say it's overpriced when he knows nothing about labor and materials costs in Europe. Roman has first hand experience running a machine shop and would have the best opinion in the tech space on whether the product is priced competitively in an objective sense. I know it will never have 'value' when it's competitors have 1/8 the price, but what manufacturing costs are all things considered and what the profit margins likely are. If I can pay my local machine shop to make the same/similar for me at a more competitive price then they might have a problem.
@Morrigan_DeDesarux
@Morrigan_DeDesarux 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. Although, as unfortunate as the situation was, it brought a lot of things to the surface along with the Lab's jabs at HUB and GN regarding data collection stuff.
@B3n85_
@B3n85_ 8 ай бұрын
I which Heatkiller made Ram blocks
@aigarius
@aigarius Жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the killer feature of the Alphacool Core line - the G1/4" threads are **metal**!
@SWEJmeister
@SWEJmeister Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the roundup! Interesting results. I'm using the full nickel Heatkiller in my AM5 build, love the look and build quality.
@BleepBlop-rh9lm
@BleepBlop-rh9lm Жыл бұрын
The same. Amazing build quality and looks.
@EmoEmu
@EmoEmu 4 ай бұрын
I love getting all the extra manufacturing infos on the various blocks.
@kevinh5024
@kevinh5024 Жыл бұрын
Im always amazed by the quality of your testing videos. Very informative and educational. You are great teacher. Thanks for posting.
@heslo8767
@heslo8767 Жыл бұрын
Great content as ever mate! Would be awesome if you could do a direct die comparison at some stage too
@kristianschlosser7108
@kristianschlosser7108 Жыл бұрын
derbauer on the velocity2 mounting: "really simple". Jayztwocents: *immediately breaks it* :D
@necronix9947
@necronix9947 3 ай бұрын
The Barrow blocks have an add on RGB controller that plugs onto that 3 pin rgb header , there also a converter cable that changes it to a normal RGB header.
@GrandAdmiralHamilton
@GrandAdmiralHamilton Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for including the EK Velocity2 in your roundup as I bought one of those a couple of months ago but have yet to mount it! 😊👍
@rekareaper
@rekareaper Жыл бұрын
I really wish you would test with higher pump speeds as well. I understand why you don’t, but it would be interesting to see the differences.
@GhostPsi69
@GhostPsi69 Жыл бұрын
Theoretical performance vs actual real life performance, also doing max pump speed would allow manafacturers to cheat on flowrate in the blocks.
@rekareaper
@rekareaper Жыл бұрын
@@GhostPsi69 it is actual real life performance for me. I have two loops that I sometimes combine. Each is a MORA3 with an EK Dual D5 pump top that all run at 100%. It isn’t cheating on flowrate to have a block designed for high pressure and high flow, as that’s how you’re going to get the best heat dissipation.
@jjlw2378
@jjlw2378 Жыл бұрын
I run my pump 100% all of the time. My computer sits a good distance from me and I can't hear it at all. I've never not run a pump at 100%.
@fermitupoupon1754
@fermitupoupon1754 Жыл бұрын
@@GhostPsi69 how is it cheating though? I mean I vary my pump speed because I want to achieve a certain dT across the radiator, but other than that I see no real reason to do so. If you mount a D5 properly, you're not going to hear it, regardless of pump RPM. My old D5 didn't even have speed control at all, it always ran at full speed. As long as you keep the same pump speed between different blocks in the test, it effectively shouldn't matter what speed your pump is running. Unless a specific block is really designed for slow flow, but then again why would it be, as that just isn't the efficient way to go about it.
@Hito343
@Hito343 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Really appreciate the time that went into it.
@floodo1
@floodo1 Жыл бұрын
Quite interesting. Good to know that the performance of high end blocks is so close
@benitoabreu4785
@benitoabreu4785 10 ай бұрын
Wow! Good stuff, brother! You really know your work. I'm glad I found your channel. Keep up the excellent work!
@jeremybarber2837
@jeremybarber2837 Жыл бұрын
Such a great round up. That Alphacool block is… surprisingly great & basic.
@meppie1922
@meppie1922 Жыл бұрын
Finally some news from water cooling perspective. Nice vid as always man🤙
@Dan-Simms
@Dan-Simms Жыл бұрын
Very good point, always good to look at multiple test results, from multiple sources. Especially if you are going to be purchasing that item.
@dieselphiend
@dieselphiend 3 ай бұрын
I just switched from EK to a Heatkiller block for my x570/5900X, and it was used. I had to take it apart, and clean it but it dropped my temps by nearly 10c compared to the EK. Increased clocks on all cores, breaking the 5Ghz barrier I had before, to 5.12Ghz, and near or over 5 on every other core. It's sharing a single 240mm x 60mm rad with a 3090.
@Gary_HTX
@Gary_HTX Жыл бұрын
Refreshing to see some proper testing again.
@jirismidak2001
@jirismidak2001 6 ай бұрын
Hello, IT? Well, I actually own the Alphacool CORE 1 block, it sits on 14th Gen i9 in Z790 motherboad. And all I can say is, its awsome! It really is! It performs great, keeping the CPU around 60C when playing MSFS2020, which is the most demanding application I am currently using. To be fair, I must say that there is also an Alphacool GPU block on a 3090. And I have a very custom loop with 2 huge 40mm 360 radiators with legendary German Noiseblocker FANs and almost 4 liters of water in the whole loop, pumped with DDC 1T Plus pump. So, plenty of liquid + plenty of cooling capacity = cool and quite components. Great video as usual! Thank you!
@azadipti4499
@azadipti4499 Жыл бұрын
Great technical insight and content
@roberthelcher2884
@roberthelcher2884 Жыл бұрын
Great information. I wished I had this information two weeks ago. My loop is complete. Thanks for taking the time to create this content.
@dallebull
@dallebull Жыл бұрын
Lol EK, Such a company answer: "You had something NON STOCK? Well in that case it's that thing's fault, if you tested it in a normal system it wouldnt be an issue!!!"
@BleepBlop-rh9lm
@BleepBlop-rh9lm Жыл бұрын
Happy owner of Watercool Heatkiller :) Ordered directly from Germany all my watercooling components from them.
@jeremytine
@jeremytine Жыл бұрын
this and techpowerup convinced me to buy the core 1, perfect timing. Thanks.
@Kulaan
@Kulaan Жыл бұрын
I like how you explained how people should watch multiple points of view before making a decision! Watched and respected your thoughts for a long time. I know very little German and I honestly started watching you because it was in German. And you tell the truth as you see it.
@orgolove
@orgolove Жыл бұрын
Awesome review - very systematic.
@ronnie8274
@ronnie8274 Жыл бұрын
Roman, thank you for the testing information. This really helped me understand more about these types of coolers. I know what to look for and what to do because of your hard work. Thanks again for all that you do. Ronnie.
@thorgen_ironside5279
@thorgen_ironside5279 9 ай бұрын
Great video, that Alphacool block did perform well.
@philth7587
@philth7587 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I bought one of the Alphacool Core 1s off the back of positive reviews, and because I liked the look of it. It replaced an EK Quantum Velocity block. The RGB, although I'm not normally a fan, looks great. Performs well, too, keeping a 7800X3D below 80 degrees with a 35 degree or so water temp.
@Div617
@Div617 Жыл бұрын
Is this with CB23 runs or just gaming?
@philth7587
@philth7587 Жыл бұрын
@@Div617 Sorry, had meant to say, CB23
@taiiat0
@taiiat0 Жыл бұрын
i really like the Mounting type of double ended Screwing a Backplate to the Board and then Thumbscrew the Block onto that. it's easy to install/remove, the Backplate doesn't fall off when you take off the Cooler, Et Cetera. it's just the easiest to use IMO. as long as the double ended Screws are large enough to operate with your Fingers, that is.
@mexicanhalloween
@mexicanhalloween Жыл бұрын
never been disappointed by alphacool, they're my first choice whenever I need any watercooling bits
@doctordonutdude
@doctordonutdude Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! I'd love to see me testing like this that gives super accurate, comparative results for us to know not only what to buy, but how what we've bought should be performing.
@skaikey
@skaikey Жыл бұрын
This was very good, thank you.
@xhayame
@xhayame Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful testing. I have two projects going on and I actually have both the barrow AND alphacool block that was in this video and it's kinda cool being able to see how both compare.
Жыл бұрын
Well done, explained ser gut. Very useful data for interested costumers.
@aureliusmanica
@aureliusmanica Жыл бұрын
How to address the elephant in the room without doing it? Over explain your methodologies. Way to go! Your job is always amazing. Keep on doing it for the community.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 Жыл бұрын
Damn, i wish this was available when i was building my AM5 rig...i bought the EK Velocity 2. Im using the very good Alphacool Eisblock for my 4090 which has performed much better than i expected.
@alex75hgft
@alex75hgft Жыл бұрын
please do the same tests for 7800X3D and other AMD cpus as they have their die not cantered like the intel CPUs. It would be great to see if these blocks perform well on AMD
@Tealc2323
@Tealc2323 Жыл бұрын
I would also love to see tests done on AMD.
@cannesahs
@cannesahs Жыл бұрын
I would also want see testing done also on AMD. Their IHS is changes lot of things. And ofc chiplets aren't in the middle.
@leeross7896
@leeross7896 Жыл бұрын
Awesome as always!
@paulclarkson2583
@paulclarkson2583 11 ай бұрын
Great video, Love the details
@supernova874
@supernova874 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work and detail on it and thank you for your time , I'm definitely Add alphacool core 1 and watercool Heatkiller IV to my next upgrade blocks :😀
@nathanielbecker9227
@nathanielbecker9227 Жыл бұрын
DerBauer, when checking mirror finishes on your waterblocks, use a TV sharpness Test! Then you can see exactly how the waterblock is shaped.
@the-wert
@the-wert Жыл бұрын
12:20 - theoretically you could restore lost performance of coldplate created by such technology by recrystallization. You could test what difference (if any) would this make - just place it in oven with protective atmosphere at 400°C for a few hours.
@Gregregorovich
@Gregregorovich Жыл бұрын
That Barrow RGB header is compatible with standard 5V ARGB, if you make (or buy, if they exist) an adapter; looking along the wire (with the wire closer to your eye than the connector), with the pins at the bottom of the plug with the snapped/cut off plastic tabs below it, it maps to left to right 5V, Data, (no gap), Ground.
@peteb5343
@peteb5343 Жыл бұрын
The fact you actually have a Heatkiller impressed me..
@philliumo
@philliumo Жыл бұрын
It'd be cool to see another one of these roundups with more small name blocks, like Optimus PC. They make some bold claims about their performance.
@tiggerlator
@tiggerlator Жыл бұрын
Just fitted a core 1 aurora to my loop
@tbrayden3694
@tbrayden3694 10 ай бұрын
Great video Roman. Now we need a radiator roundup 😀
@timothynolan7250
@timothynolan7250 Жыл бұрын
Great work! Love it!!!!
@СусаннаСергеевна
@СусаннаСергеевна Жыл бұрын
My favourite block is the Barrow CPU-pump-reservoir combo. Elegant way to fit watercooling into SFF. I’ve also asked why they use a fan cable for their LEDs. The answer, it seems, is simply “it’s a better connector”. Which is true, anything would be better than the actual LED connector, but it feels like it’s only an excuse to sell adapter cables.
@alexanderm2702
@alexanderm2702 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a test with a vapor chamber between the CPU and the block. I've looked into doing it myself but the power rating on the ones that would fit seem to max out at 150W. My theory on why the Alphacool block is so good: the sideways slots offer an easier path to get rid of water that has already contacted copper and warmed up. That allows higher flow rate of fresh cool water. It also creates turbulence in the water and also creates a bit more surface area.
@Blustride
@Blustride 4 ай бұрын
The Aquacomputer RGB adapter is 3 euros from their site. At that price it should probably be included, but it's also a nominal expense.
@waynemacleod3416
@waynemacleod3416 Жыл бұрын
the ARGB connector on the barrow is from commercial or DIY. I have 3 controllers and lights with that conector. you can get a adapter for the motherboard connector if you dont want to rewire.
@sabishiihito
@sabishiihito Жыл бұрын
The Corsair blocks should come with an adapter to standard A-RGB in the box, at least the one I got did.
@helljester8097
@helljester8097 Жыл бұрын
Yeah same here they’ve been including more and more of these adapters with hydro X products.
@ThunderingRoar
@ThunderingRoar Жыл бұрын
i ll rather just avoid all corsair rgb products instead
@rtkizzle5512
@rtkizzle5512 Жыл бұрын
I think the most important part of this video is at 10:36 when the kitty shows up just to let you know that this video was worth it.
@seitenryu6844
@seitenryu6844 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see an Optimus block. Not many channels talk about them.
@tomaspalkovic242
@tomaspalkovic242 Жыл бұрын
yes i second this
@jake..A
@jake..A Жыл бұрын
The alphacool core 1 is the best cpu block currently on the market, better than the optimus. I am currently using the core 1 upgraded from the sigv2 & also previously used heatkiller iv pro & ek magnitude & velocity 2 and the core 1 is the best.
@Simon_Denmark
@Simon_Denmark Жыл бұрын
Maybe because their market is almost completely in the US.
@1984TarpeN
@1984TarpeN 11 ай бұрын
Really nice videos to watch, I just bought an AMD 7900x3d and bought myself a Corsair Hydro X Series XC8 RGB PRO JTC Edition because it was so much cheaper than buying an EK block. and am really happy with the result. Corsair $110 vs EK $220 😃
@notinmyass5977
@notinmyass5977 9 ай бұрын
thanks you ! awesome video
@qazserNOS
@qazserNOS Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Heatkiller IV Pro I bought in 2017 for 60€ (B-stock) still hold up. :)
@malphadour
@malphadour Жыл бұрын
They got that design just right - there still isn't a block on the market that can consistantly beat it over 7 years after it was released.
@Quasars06
@Quasars06 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. Since 2015 I have the Watercool Heatkiller IV Pro Nickel and I see no reason to change it because for 10 years there has been no real improvement in performance apart from the design.
@Cinnabuns2009
@Cinnabuns2009 Жыл бұрын
I went with HeatKiller IV because it has a bracket that I (as a machinist) can change out and make to fit any hole pattern on any board. Also, it doesn't need mounted offset because the inlet is toward the chiplet side on AMD so the chiplets get the cold side and the SOC gets the outlet. Very nice feature.
@96kylar
@96kylar Жыл бұрын
Agree. And did the same. The heat killer block is wicked legit
@AndrewB23
@AndrewB23 9 ай бұрын
As a "machinist" you should be able to do most of these brackets bud
@MyJapaneseLife
@MyJapaneseLife 7 ай бұрын
And how can it help with that?
@sergeys2505
@sergeys2505 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic job, man 👍
@der8auer-en
@der8auer-en Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@robmasters3569
@robmasters3569 9 ай бұрын
I would have liked to see one of the Optimus blocks included in these comparisons due to the bold claims on their website about how much better the cooling is with one of their blocks compared to the rest (un-named) of the blocks on the market
@Laurin1179
@Laurin1179 Жыл бұрын
Very good Video! Thank you
@der8auer-en
@der8auer-en Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@davidl8523
@davidl8523 Жыл бұрын
@ 5:45, The 28C bios temp seems to be quite accurate. I think you meant it doesn't have the resolution you want.
@interlace84
@interlace84 Жыл бұрын
Dude *PLEASE* do those guys at Billet Labs a solid, get a hold of their prototype Linus fumbled and show the world how to do it right 🙏
@fickalinga
@fickalinga Жыл бұрын
It was a mistake sending it to linus and not derbauer
@der8auer-en
@der8auer-en Жыл бұрын
Will see if I can get in contact with them and if they are interested. I'm absolutely open to test it.
@rulik006
@rulik006 Жыл бұрын
Billet Labs waterblock is useless and unpractical product + overpriced Only good for taping video on youtube
@interlace84
@interlace84 Жыл бұрын
@@der8auer-en you're awesome 💪 heart of gold! here's to hoping it happens
@interlace84
@interlace84 Жыл бұрын
@@rulik006 It was a pro-to-type without a final retail price yet.. and one can only talk about its practicality after giving it a proper review 😉 those guys deserve better.
@justinbouchard
@justinbouchard Жыл бұрын
thank you for discussing testing procedures and set ups in reference to the end result. just because i have all the exact same components does not mean i will get the exact same results as you, even if i built the system exactly the same way as you. electronics are all built within tolerances. nothing is exactly the same at this consumer level of electrical computing components.
@shaneeslick
@shaneeslick Жыл бұрын
G'day Shiek, Makita & Roman, How my brain interpreted Shiek at 13:37 "🧑Simply because of the price...€250" "🐱What The!" 😂 Thanks for including the Science behind manufacturing the Fins (that HUGE Skiver making Fins) & Nickel Coating, understanding the difference between them & the finish they give is very interesting.
@420bobby69
@420bobby69 Жыл бұрын
I recognize that pink paste! Looks like the Kryonaut Extreme I put on after installing your contact frame in an attempt to make my 360mm AIO able to cool my 13900k. It helped a bit, but I'm starting to think it's impossible to actually cool that chip. Lol.
@GRCDriver23
@GRCDriver23 Жыл бұрын
time to try undervolting
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 Жыл бұрын
I'm running a cheap 360 AIO and it keeps my 13900K from thermal throttling. I hit a max temp in the upper 80's at all stock settings, just undervolted, which doesn't lose any performance, it actually gained performance vs not undervolting.
@420bobby69
@420bobby69 Жыл бұрын
@@bluegizmo1983 funny you mention that, undervolting dawned on me last night as a pretty obvious thing to do. how far did you push the negative offset on yours?
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 Жыл бұрын
@bobbyp6592 I didn't use a negative voltage offset, as I followed a guide that talks about how its better these days with modern CPU's to use Load Line Calibration to achieve an undervolt. Google "Asus Maximus Z790 Extreme and Intel i9-13900k - A tuning guide for beginners." It's a long interesting read about why this way is better, but to jump right to the information, you want the second post, then scroll down to "So let's start tuning the beast !". Basically it amounts to setting the DC_LL = 1.02 and AC_LL = 0.2, that's it, it's undervolted. You can fine tune it more from there but as it says in the forum post, those numbers should be stable for just about all 13900K's
@420bobby69
@420bobby69 Жыл бұрын
@@bluegizmo1983 LOL dude im literally reading guides about Load Line Calibration right now wondering if that's a way to optimize the undervolt for stability. I remembered der8auer explaining that setting in his 8700k OC video years ago, and how it affected the way the CPU handles 'voltage droops' or something. You have incredible timing, checking that out now. Thanks.
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt Жыл бұрын
Amazing content once again Roman so thank you very much for your hard work on this. I know there will be a million people saying 'oh can you add this' but I would like to make it a million and one! Something I think that would be invaluable to know would be where abouts are AIO in all this, so if you used the exact test bench and threw on the best AIO cooler, how much of a delta would there be between these and the dedicated blocks. Cheers.
@chrisfeaka4250
@chrisfeaka4250 Жыл бұрын
Think. Im going to try a cpuwater Loop cooling solution. Really like the look of the heat killer block
@megapro125
@megapro125 Жыл бұрын
the material science part about deformed metal having reduced thermal and electric conductivity was super interesting.
@arkie87
@arkie87 Жыл бұрын
wow a 50C temperature drop between junction and spreader means that vast improvements could be had by de-lidding.
@gonzalovega8021
@gonzalovega8021 Жыл бұрын
Barrow is almost Identical to the first EK-Supremacy, i have both and i can swap tops and mounting plates.
@Born_Stellar
@Born_Stellar Жыл бұрын
with the chinese brands you can almost always tell what company they copied from. thats good to know in case I need more parts though, lol.
@St0RM33
@St0RM33 Жыл бұрын
5:09 it's ARGB with the wrong connector that's why they modified it to fit some chinese argb hubs
@Shark00n1337
@Shark00n1337 Жыл бұрын
Great and informative vid as usual! Was the retail Core 1 also suffering from the same plating issues as your engineering part? Ty
@bm2085
@bm2085 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted a Heatkiller, this video is an other nail in my ek block's coffin...
@killer01ws6
@killer01ws6 Жыл бұрын
I would have loved for you to test a SuperCool 13th Gen one. it really keeps my 13900KS OC cool, but I also have a chiller.
@Collin_J
@Collin_J 11 ай бұрын
Cool vid
@rulik006
@rulik006 Жыл бұрын
9:00 their backplate "1700 heavy" costs 30euro - this is robbery despite of price backplate is superb
@scoobtoober2975
@scoobtoober2975 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a materials science person, but i've heat treated a few metals in my day. How about post skiving heat treat to re-grow re-fine crystal structure. Send me some revenues if you do this to some heat spreaders. Like take a made up EK block, heat treat it and sell it again. There are razor blades you can buy that are a brand name, then are cryo treated. It definitely helped them last longer, stay sharper. It was simply a slow deep freeze with steps down and up in temp.
@chris746568462
@chris746568462 Жыл бұрын
6:39 That alone shows why direct die is the way forward. If you took a scythed design and used EDM to make it i wonder if there would be a difference in temperature.
@protator
@protator 9 ай бұрын
This just confirms once again that EK's new strategy is to increase the prices, not the performance of their water blocks. They used to be the absolute performance king, picking an EK block for best performance was an absolute no-brainer - at least for those with the necessary cash. Sadly, for several years now even their ridiculously priced halo products have only been able to keep up with mid-tier blocks and get completely destroyed by the competition's top shelf products. I'm still using two Supremacy blocks in my server and a Supremacy Evo in my workstation, they're great, but those were the last EK blocks that were actually worth the high price tag. Corsair had issues with price-performance disconnects as well for a while, but they've sorted things out and returned to reality; for the most part.
@Gobbbbb
@Gobbbbb Жыл бұрын
Would just like to say thank you for making English videos in addition to the German ones, it really is appreciated and I hope one day to learn German.
@Dexx1s
@Dexx1s Жыл бұрын
LOL at the EK blocks. The Alphacool block is $100 for the non-RGB version IIRC, which is going to be cheaper than just about every EK block that isn't on sale. Nobody's really paying that much for a waterblock and then not paying the extra $15 for the contact frame, unless they're incredibly ignorant or just stupid. If I actually needed a block, the Core 1 would have been my choice, since the moment I saw it, along with the price. Good to see that the temps are decent too.
@GLHerzberg
@GLHerzberg Жыл бұрын
Sent a question to Alphacool asking whether the block exposes the brass and/or copper to the cooling fluid. The product's description leads me to believe that it does stating only that the "threads" are nickel plated. Would appreciate any additional insight into this from the community.
@GLHerzberg
@GLHerzberg Жыл бұрын
Alphacool responded with "The buttom of the 'Alphacool Core 1' is copper nickel plated and the top brass nickel plated, so both of them has no contact with the coolant." Thus, it is likely that their site's translation to English could be improved to properly contextualize the grammatical elements.
@RetroTinkerer
@RetroTinkerer Жыл бұрын
I was told "a while ago" by one notorious tech youtuber famous for its water cooling builds that there was no reason to review custom liquid cooler parts for their performance and a sponsored build was a perfect way to show of the parts. A medium one that used science in his handle also told me hey people build custom water for the way they look, no performance review is necessary. I guess corsair is a big sponsor and a performance review of underperforming parts is always unnecessary. BTW Thanks for the review and for actually testing the parts!
@SimonSays-
@SimonSays- Жыл бұрын
Never knew there was so much temp variance between different brands of waterblocks
@joekashula7687
@joekashula7687 Жыл бұрын
As always, excellent video. If you plan to do more testing Optimus Signature V2 is a must.
@DeclanBirmingham
@DeclanBirmingham Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate the cat appearance.
@gerthddyn
@gerthddyn 9 ай бұрын
This is why everyone should look more at comparison reviews. I've never found EK to be particularly good despite so many people being their fanboys. I got a heatkiller IV, because of availability when I was purchasing.
@Bluelagoonstudios
@Bluelagoonstudios Ай бұрын
I changed everything from EK Quantum to most parts from Alphacool, so I could clearly see the difference between my EK CPU block and the Core 1 from Alphacool. And it does much better than the EK. This is a system with a Ryzen 7 5800X3D, And this system is monitored and steered by AquaComputer interfaces. Pretty much advanced system.
@argusx77
@argusx77 Жыл бұрын
Great video
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