Devil May Cry 5 (Zero Punctuation)

This week Yahtzee reviews Devil May Cry 5.
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#ZeroPunctuation #DevilMayCry5

[@Killjoyreign]

"'Spectacle Fighters, make testicles lighter'. So it is written." - V

[@MrSnaztastic]

"Die," -also V

[@The-Game-Merchant]

Your use of the same avatar as me made me think someone hacked my KZbin account to post comments for a second.

[@Killjoyreign]

@@The-Game-Merchant I bought it for a high price.

[@spikegilfer1997]

*Closes book*

[@redgrave4492]

It's baffling how "Character Action" sounds even more unspecific than "Action Adventure"

[@malcomalexander9437]

Stylish Action works best.

[@DaRealJGRIF]

Not really their action games with character. The most memorable thing from all "character action games" are the leads your Dantes Bayonettas and Raidens.

[@redgrave4492]

@@DaRealJGRIF It's too broad a term. It's kind of like saying if a game has a character and features action then it fits the term, which is almost any game that's combat focused. I preferred hack 'n slash or beat em' up if no weapons were used.

[@fish4225]

@@DaRealJGRIF The Stanley Parable has a character and action; the Sims has several characters and a lot of action if you so wish; Skyrim definitely has a character and definitely has action. Are these all "character action"? If not, why?

[@DaRealJGRIF]

@@fish4225 By your logic Hitch is a really good Will Smith action movie, Action is the overarching genre The stanley Parable is by no means an Action game. Character Action is a combat focused sub genre in which the refined combo focused combat system is extremely well developed and is a unique character in itself, also you picked 2 really bad counter argument games with Skyrim and the Stanley parable as they both have silent protagonist designed to help the player better identify with them. Dante and Bayonetta on the other hand are self driven individuals with their own goals and personalities outside the players input. Sonic has more in common with a character action character than Dohvakin but you know sonic is a platformer.

[@Virjunior01]

I approve of "Oh, You Done Fucked Up Now" as a difficulty.

[@darthsmythe6783]

Virjunior that one made me giggle, it's like a one hit kills you no save play the game in one sitting good luck cuz your gonna need it.

[@jole5861]

@@darthsmythe6783 That's hell and hell buddy

[@michaelsmith-ch7hf]

You die if the enemy so much as breathes in your general direction lolz

[@wubbawubba3396]

@@darthsmythe6783 it already exists m8, it's called hell and hell (only in DMC 4, DmC and DMC V).

[@rexaura8465]

One hit kill that erases your save file for the game and install but also hires a personal assassin to take out you and your loved ones. He also sells your console

[@RegretfulDeadMan]

I thought everyone WAS using Spectacle Fighter. This is literally the first I've ever heard the term "character action" All in favor of keeping the term "spectacle fighter" say "Aye"

[@KenKaneki-ux8xv]

Aye

[@skyleviathan9669]

Aye

[@abhilashmessi31]

Aye

[@flightlessagbsls]

Nay

[@PewPew_McPewster]

Aye

[@RepublicOfUs]

"The story falls apart near the end." *Has literally just moved over here from a video of Woolie exploding into orgasm at the near-endgame* Let's just say this is definitely a game for the fans the series already has.

[@rtiq270]

From the perspective of a new player, it does exactly that. But if you're a veteran of the series, your nuts will truly become lighter.

[@jenkind1]

@@rtiq270 I'm sorry you didn't like it. The best thing i can tell you if you feel like giving it another chance is get the HD collection and play Devil May Cry 3. If you like it, then you will probably like 4 and 5 better.

[@rtiq270]

@@jenkind1 What? Never said I didn't like it. I didn't mean to imply that I was the new player if that's what you thought. I fucking loved dmc 5.

[@Upsetkiller456]

On top, sometimes people forget that there are FOUR games before this one to build the story.

[@sonicx45shadow]

Domenick boucher 3, don’t bother with DMC 2

[@Mathmachine]

Who knew that giving fans what they wanted rather than changing things arbitrarily and then making fun of said fans would sell? I tell you, that was a mystery worthy of Sherlock Holmes himself.

[@BlackHeart1216]

@Geralt of Trivia not when it involves statements like, and i quote "Dante isn't a gay cowboy."

[@danilooliveira6580]

@Geralt of Trivia sure, but not when you try to shove it in the player's mouth. its not that hard to make a spin off to test the waters for new mechanics, or try something new without changing the core experience. or even better, create a new franchise.

[@TARINunit9]

Here's a fun fact: Ninja Theory's reboot was originally much closer to DMC4. Capcom came by and said "no this is too similar, we want you to go crazy with this reboot". Ninja Theory responded by making it way too crazy, but it backfired and Capcom loved it

[@MrMetalforever5]

DmC’s director was a knob but I’ll always hold DmC in higher regard than 2 and 4.

[@iattacku2773]

Capcom was salty dmc4 didn’t sell as well as they wanted it to

[@brainflash1]

Modern Warfare clones: Spunkgagrleweewee Devil May Cry/Bayonetta: Spectacle Fighter PUBG clones: Die-a-thons?

[@ryanbarham8464]

I just call them Royale games.

[@Ahoge-dono]

Yahtzee also coined the term PC Master Race.

[@QuicklimeTime]

Don't forget "MUMORPUGGERS"!

[@Heavysweating]

I think it would fit better for "rage games"

[@ts25679]

PUBG: A cower in the bathroom with cheese?

[@reedstreetteavee2]

"Mavis Beacon has characters and actions" fucking brilliant

[@wheeliebin18]

should've added - "...and she makes MY testicles lighter"

[@2Scribble]

And one of those actions is flipping her off when she gives you a low rating :P

[@suddenllybah]

Such a spiritual fighter.

[@kyleperkins93]

"Oh, You Done Fucked Up Now" difficulty is like Hell or Hell mode but all the enemies are replaced with Fury.

[@lugbzurg8987]

Hell and Hell Turbo Hardcore Must Style Yellow Mode. That'd be the one. Anything else I'm missing?

[@wiimaster06]

For some odd reason when playing this difficulty if you aren't fighting a Fury you are fighting a Blitz

[@stephencopley5083]

The Fury can without a doubt go fuck itself

[@TimBagels]

@@lugbzurg8987 add Legendary Dark Knight in there somewhere

[@lugbzurg8987]

@@TimBagels I guess you're right, though that's more of a "normal" type of difficulty that just goes up the linear difficulty scale. I'm talkin' the extra "branch difficulties" that add some sort of optional gimmick, like "Hell and Hell", which makes you die in one hit and how "Turbo Mode" increases the game's speed. Guess I out to have clarified that...!

[@Call_Me_Matrix]

"Spectacle fighters make testicles lighter"-Yahtzee 2019

[@FrAvatar]

that fucking cracked me up.

[@litarogers3984]

so it is written

[@90maducc]

“I mean not playing DMC for the challenge is like going to an Indian restaurant and ordering nothing but naan and raita” I genuinely approve this quote.

[@fangsinyourneck3444]

And yet, he played it on human.

[@90maducc]

PaperCubed the madman.

[@hajimeokajima]

Man... He is British. They have quite a lot of Indian restaurants there.

[@amannamedsquid313]

@@hajimeokajima He lives in Australia though.

[@hajimeokajima]

@@amannamedsquid313 I see... Same thing.

[@OpticalArxenal]

It delivered exactly what people wanted. And ho dang did I want it. It was a goddang love-letter if I ever saw one. And I suck at the game, but I love it.

[@5000Seabass]

I have a steam category with darksiders, DMC, Sekiro, and Bayonetta called “Slashy chop chops”

[@yotemtotem1246]

sekiro??

[@vaibhavbalooni5730]

@@yotemtotem1246 Sekiro is pretty much an action game, much like the other games he mentioned. Not as over the top, but is action still.

[@Karak-_-]

@@yotemtotem1246 Well, depends on how much you like to use prosthetic and special moves.

[@daemiax]

To be honest. I have genuinely felt like I have not played a game this good for AGES. DMC V was really a great hit in my books.

[@Yuuki_12]

I dont know, they ruined the story for me, everyone was too dramatic like a season of supernatural. 3 was the best in my opinion

[@harikaerif1]

@@Yuuki_12 dude have you played the first two Devil May Cry games. They're dramatic af (I haven't played 3 yet so I don't know about that)

[@Bat0541]

bit short, feels like it ends super abruptly, like a ton of build up for very little pay off, like the game was working toward something but gave up in the middle and just ended it. Also what a bizarre "multiplayer" element as well, who's idea was it to waste time putting that in?

[@Bat0541]

@@Yuuki_12 I feel like you can't use "Devil May Cry" and " too dramatic" together, it's basically just misunderstanding the tone of the game. All the games are like that.

[@2Scribble]

It's a comfort zone game Of course you're going to like it That doesn't make it BAD - far from it - a comfort zone exists for a reason But much like Far Cry New Dawn it ain't about to set the gaming world alight lol

[@DemonDude656]

Honestly DMC V was made, tailored, and forged for DMC fans. If you aint about the genre or DMC you wont super appreciate all the attention that nt into the details of it. (If you want to see the true scope of this I recommend watching Woolie VS playthrough of it they go into heavy detail on the matter)

[@artcellrox]

You. I like you. I still think 5 is in general really accessible and should be able to draw in anyone interested in action games, but you are rather right. Also that LP is the dopest shit.

[@obblivionkr]

Unexpected SBFP? No, expected SBFP.

[@DemonDude656]

@@JaelinBezel I mean youll miss alot of references and things that make V so cool with its predecessors but mechanically you wont have too much trouble I dont think? Thats hard for me to answer tbh, considering by nature its hard to think of the game as someones first time with the series. If you enjoy this TYPE of game certainly youll appreciate the move set, how it flows, etc but maybe not the best choice if you are new the the genre

[@palm5225]

@@JaelinBezel just dont. Buy the HD collection and beat the first 3 games (well maybe not the second game) then move on to dmc 4 and complete that. Then you are ready for DMC 5.

[@DemonDude656]

@@JaelinBezel id beat at least 1 Bayo first if you have your heart set on jumping to V

[@josephgarfield3363]

I still use "spectacle fighter"

[@Lifesizemortal]

this term is becoming more and more common but i always thought the genre was called "Hack n' Slash" even back when the first DMC came out. is it British terminology?

[@RESNone208]

Yeah I always saw these as hack n slash. They’re not fighting games, Tekken is a fighting game, UNIST is a fightin game, etc.

[@skolkor]

@@Lifesizemortal When you call it hack n' slash someone will say that that's actually Diablo clones even though a lot of people call them dungeon crawlers.

[@SidheKnight]

I didn't know there was a term other than "Spectacle Fighter" (which is what I'll always use). Hack N' Slash reminds me of those sidescrolling action games from the 16-bit era like Golden Axe (turns out, those are called "Beat-em-up's")

[@theirishviking9278]

@@Lifesizemortal no it's not but to me hack and slash don't rate how well you did in a fight the old god of war game are a good example of a hack n slash

[@shrk128]

I actually liked DMC4. It's story is cliche and very very simple, but it was fun, had good music (though most DMC games - besides the dubstep ginger child in the room - do) and was satisfying enough. Sometimes all you need is a good ol' "the princess was taken! you must save her and defeat the bad guys!" type of game. it feels like these don't pop up anymore.

[@olo9127]

I thought one of the few consistent praises for the DMC reboot was that the music was good? Different style than the original games, but good.

[@sm24644]

I loved how V read poetry to fill his meter.

[@astern.7425]

From the trailers, you'd think it was a book of spells, 'cause he's a mage, but nope. He's reading poetry to his enemies 😆

[@CurtisLittlechild92]

Kind of redundant though. As engaging in combat fills the DT gauge pretty fast anyway.

[@vigorouslethargy]

@@CurtisLittlechild92 I believe reading while Nightmare is out slows the DT drain. I could be wrong, though. Haven't actually sat and ran the numbers.

[@Deathclaw-lh5tl]

Spectacle fighter My testicle's lighter The suns are brighter The kicks are tighter

[@5and160]

My swords are twitcher

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

and my foe’s a blighter

[@spacebear4742]

the spectacle fighter's!

[@swaggio1]

Sounds like the God Hand end credits

[@Actiomedey]

You fucked up the cadence still good though

[@TheCatWatches]

Devil May Cry 5 was a love letter to the fans, celebrating all things Devil May Cry, even going so far as to make the one-season anime canon. Best game I’ve played since FFXV and Dragon Age: Inquisition.

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

Gone home is my favorite character action game

[@aleisshiki3649]

Pajamapants Jack interesting profile picture

[@BugsyFoga]

Mavis Beacon Typing is my favourite "Character Action Game"😄👌

[@melonetta]

Mavis Beacon is the character, Teaches is the action, and Typing is the game

[@eviltigz]

We need the movie tie now!! It will be spectacular..

[@ferhog7705]

It truly is Platinum Games' magnum opus.

[@Robert399]

It reminds me of the start of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHu1qatqrbCSY8U

[@-kenik9629]

MAVIS BEACON'S BAAAAACK!! *Gets vaporized by eye lasers*

[@bloodhit1]

The Three Warriors mission is full blown 3 people coop mission.

[@alastor8091]

And I still have yet to encounter another player despite having their names pop up. I've seen a few V's during Flying Hunter, a few Nero's on V, and a Nero once on M5.

[@maxastro]

@@alastor8091 I ran into players during Three Warriors. It was pretty cool, they were significantly better at the game than me and I had to rush to keep up, but it also felt badass when we were all fighting together.

[@alastor8091]

@@maxastro damn. I wish. Wish there were more missions like it.

[@skolkor]

Sometimes you don't see the other people in mission 13 and sometimes they've already played the level for you.

[@darweath]

Yesterday i played M13 and encounter with 3 player at once.That was a blast.

[@MatthewStevensOrMattDave]

Oh, Yahtzee, you've blissfully missed out the "They're just action games, but with good combat" debacle that went on some time ago.

[@uhobme2028]

Dragonball Z and Days of our Lives... You forgot the sprinkle of Kingdom Hearts with that big reveal

[@zigslotheon]

Olaf Benjamin what? Was V a Xehanort

[@StyryderX]

Nah, this is still tame compared to...that.

[@PureFlakes]

I believe the technical term for these games is CUHRAYZEE Games

[@TheXell]

Finally somebody with some fucking culture.

[@MrTrebleCleff]

"Nero... That nobody liked" Big L there mr strayan

[@DaRealJGRIF]

Nero had some bad reception when DMC4 initially released much like Raiden in MGS2 but both of them built a fanbase fairly quick

[@agtl3168]

@@DaRealJGRIF People exaggerate it though, in 4 he actually got praised by most journalist and critics as a character as well as his buster mechanic, but people like to pretend that everyone disliked him across the board, so over that narrative.

[@spikegilfer1997]

Then DmC came out and people who disliked Nero before decided they preferred him to Donte and therefore he is a stellar character. Honestly. The Devil May Cry fandom is almost the most lovely group of people in existence. Only stopped by the sneering, shit-smearing, contrarian attitude they adopt whenever DmC is mentioned. You certainly don't need to like it, but dislike it less obnoxiously please.

[@camendiv]

The writing for Nero was poor to say the least, but snatch as a gameplay mechanic was fun. Using that arm to slam peons and pull yourself up to a boss's face and start hacking away is something I'll never get tired of.

[@Usernamesdontmatter1]

@@spikegilfer1997 To be fair DmC went out of it's way to piss us off. The director making broke back mountain jokes about Dante's previous design and the wig scene didn't help.

[@ThisThingEaten]

I know this game was made for the fans, but even as my first DMC game, it turned me into a fan with its combat system and by simply not taking itself too seriously. Bought DMC 3 on the Nintendo Switch soon after.

[@WraxTV]

Truth is there's more reference to DmC: Devil May Cry in DMC5 than there is to DMC2. They skip over DMC2 with the quickness while they at least brought one of the enemies from DmC back. Granted, the anime gets a hell of a lot more nods than both of them.

[@Mikedot]

They also took some aspects from the DMC reboot including slow motion finishers, use of dynamic audio, the training room (yes even though it was also in Bayonetta) Really, despite the popular opinion, I feel that the reboot had some good ideas

[@udhsids]

@@Mikedot it was an execution that was the problem really.

[@Valanway]

DMC2 got brought up a lot more in the prequel novel, to be fair, and is a rather important piece of the setup of 5's story (and two weapons) so it's not like they forgot about it

[@ImaTroper]

@@Mikedot Considering the director of DMCV had to help out on DmC's development. Theres a good chance all those things were his idea in the first place.

[@Mikedot]

@@ImaTroper Perhaps, but then again, it would only question why those elements weren't included I DMC4.

[@DivinityFallen]

I appreciate that I've been watching Yahtzee since 2012 and he still releases his videoes at the same time on the same day. It makes me so happy.

[@angrybrony]

nero is great, fight me.

[@Zeffiren]

No one will fight you on this. Nero is the best dead weight out there.

[@BlackLynx4607a]

He's... okay-er in this game. Still a washed down, punk Dante.

[@angrybrony]

@@BlackLynx4607a except there not that much alike.

[@Andreu0rtin]

He is like Donte should have been (first not being Dante because Dante has an already rich and fun personality that make him unique), more aggressive than regular Dante but still having some level of sass and banter. Also the insults he gives work because two reasons: First, this guy is in a vendetta against the guy that cut his hand so it makes sense that he is angered about all this. And the times that drops the F-bomb is in a situation of obviously emotional distress, unlike Donte that he insults like no tomorrow with basically no reason. Second, he does it sparingly and mostly is not the center of the interaction between him and whoever is talking with so it doesn't come like a child trying to sound like an adult.

[@DreamedLint]

He is a good spicy boy.

[@SycrosD4]

1:07 “Devil May CryV (crive)” Clever

[@onimaxblade8988]

I'm impressed by the lack of interest Yahtzee had in DMCV

[@trevingrayek791]

I thinks it just he doesnt like Nero.

[@Carlisho]

He didnt even gave credit to the godly soundtrack 😭

[@nieildilsonsouza4747]

@@trevingrayek791 Who does like him? He's a whiny wannabe thick headed character... Even at the last part they tried their best to give him the best powar than Dante and Vergil, still failed and the character still boring and unlikable as usual.

[@trevingrayek791]

@@nieildilsonsouza4747 A lot of people actually, either for his gameplay style or his character growth. I think it was after the reboot that everyone started to appreciate him more.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Just because he's not as harsh on this game doesn't mean he likes it.

[@AeroDarkstar]

I'm surprised Yahtzee didn't even touch on Dante randomly breaking out into a Michael Jackson dance right in between some serious ass shit.

[@vashido1866]

DMC5 is my GOTY so far, best dmc game for sure. I seriously can't stop playing it. Also, V best boy

[@astern.7425]

I still like dmc3 more, probably because of nostalgia, but i don't care. Agreed on everything else tho

[@vigorouslethargy]

@@astern.7425 I put 5 just a tiny iota under 3, simply because 3's story flowed better and (although I like V and Nero) playing as Dante is the most fun for me.

[@seanjenkins5505]

3 also had a perfectly designed map, but they're neck and neck.@@vigorouslethargy

[@BenCol]

Spectacle Fighter sounds like a game set in a post-apocalyptic future, where the atomic explosions ruined everyone’s eyesight while also blowing the glass out of every pair of glasses, thus resulting in a bloody brawl to the death in the only surviving branch of specsavers over the few pairs of spectacles that were kept safe in an underground vault. And once you win and get your hands on a pair, you have to keep them safe from all the other near-sighted survivors ready to kill to see. Because, if you lose your glasses, how will you read your books? There’s time now.

[@RuleroftheSandcastle]

Now this is a comment. Writing prompt waiting to happen, original, funny, sudden reference to The Twilight Zone at the end... Absolute banger of a comment.

[@BenCol]

@@RuleroftheSandcastle Thank you, glad you liked it!

[@Crazelord91]

Tetris is my favorite Character Action game

[@SaraNightfire1]

Are the characters the blocks?

[@Crazelord91]

@@SaraNightfire1 Depends on your interpretation. It's a complex and layered character action game

[@allooutrick8266]

The action is pulse pounding as well. At any moment the player can decide to assert their decision, Launching objects to the ground with force that would shatter concrete.

[@DontGiveUp_Skeleton]

A lot of people do use Spectacle fighter, but I think you'd have to thank TB for that.

[@vigorouslethargy]

I will not thank tuberculosis for anything.

[@BinBintheRiceCake]

Toddler difficulty? I mean, still leagues harder then journalist difficulty.

[@iainrickwood2623]

Tutorial room difficulty? Dean Takahashi difficulty?

[@LOLquendoTV]

He is a journalist though?

[@dragonflight2468]

Here i thought yatzhee saw the error of his ways from this dmc4 review years ago and realized Nero is actually a good character now. Sadly, i was wrong. Seriously, I have never seen anyone still hating on Nero. Since the reboot, people learned to love him.

[@Belllcross]

I mean after the reboot I went from he's ok I guess, to oh hey nero I missed you you! Just didn't realize it till I saw his DMC 5 trailer for E3.

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

his early videos where mean spirited for the sake of it, and usualy did not reflect his actual opinion. that is why his current videos are so beloved, because the critisism is told trough satire, not just harsh words

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

@@gurriato i agree, but if the budged and time where not cut during production the game plot and characters would be much better.

[@Belllcross]

@@gurriato That is fair, to me DMC4 is a lesson on what happens when you rush games that could be great. Nero, I think was a casualty of this. You can see that the game can be more, sadly greed got to it first.

[@Montesama314]

I actually call them "spectacle fighters," but because the name sounds so natural, I forgot where the source was. Thanks for the reminder, Croshaw. The name "Character Action Game" might as well say as a subtitle: "This title was created by a bored corporate committee."

[@bensell982]

He's also the person who coined the term pc master race which ironically was intended as an insult

[@Aiobh]

I absolutely loved DMC 5, but my first thought when I saw the notification was "I can't wait to see Yatzee rip into this game" 😂✌️

[@Haan22]

For a Yahtzee review there was very little ripping, I think he had a blast.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

No haan.

[@SnipeMD]

Congrats to Yahtzee for being the first person to call V by name rather than just Kylo Ren. I appreciate credit where credit is due.

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

people still do that

[@andieketchum]

"A dedicated medium man." explains him perfectly.

[@alexanderzhmurov9624]

"Halfway between DragonBall Z and Days of Our Lives..." My God Man, My Good Man, how does he do it, how does he come up with this gold?

[@James-pt2vk]

Me upon seeing yhatzee did a video in devil may cry 5: Hooray yhatzee covered dmc 5! Me upon remembering how much yhatzee tears into games: oh no yhatzee covered dmc 5

[@Joker-nh6dd]

We come to yahtzee for jokes. Not actual reviews lets be honest here

[@PhyreI3ird]

I'm 5 months late to this whole thing, but just feel like saying cuz I love the game. Lots of people are saying its for fans of the series, and while I have no doubt that that's true; I, as someone who has only played about 2 hours of DMC 4 had an absolute fucking blast with this game. It may have been purpose built for fans, but this was really awesome even for a newcomer.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Except you would already be a fan if you played dmc 4.

[@PhyreI3ird]

@@fightingmedialounge519 I didn't like it at the time. I was pretty young and had no concept of the game's point being combo stringing for style and flare (or maybe the tutorial went over it and I just didn't care?) and so I hated that swinging this giant sword and shooting a relatively big gun did so little damage to these things, especially when the cinematics show Nero being so ludiculously strong. It just made me feel weak, so it irritated me at the time. I might enjoy it now, but I wasn't ready for it then.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@PhyreI3ird did you start to like it before playing dmc5?

[@PhyreI3ird]

​@@fightingmedialounge519 Dmc4 was just something a relative had for a time and it wasn't really around for me to take a liking to it as I learned more about the appeal of the series and figured out I had the wrong ideas going into it.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

That's exactly my point.

[@rafael471992]

I don't see how DMC5 differs from RE2 in how it modernized the genre. Both games focused on what they do best and upped it up to eleven. Being faithful to your roots doesn't mean something is stale.

[@1meen1]

Rafael Economides RE 2 made bigger changes then DMC5 , or to say RE was brought up to RE 4 modernization. DMC5 hasn’t really changed much, rather than filling a gap since DMC reboot’s original release to be honest. It’s one thing to be faithful and another to simply crutch on your roots. RE7 is a great example.

[@Jabroni_14]

@@1meen1 dmc 5 changes were way more significant, resi 2 doesn't differ mechanically from a survival horror game but adding new weapons or characters significantly changes things in games like these with skill ceilings so high that it's hard to appreciate the nuances of the systems without understanding them

[@jcace13]

What games don’t have characters and/or action in them? Spectacle Fighter is way better.

[@DreamedLint]

@@macmcskullface1004 lmao, savage.

[@CubicGC]

Tetris

[@ImaTroper]

Pong

Minesweeper.

[@nathangamble125]

"What games don’t have characters and/or action in them?" Puzzle games.

[@Not_An_EV]

0:54 its funny because if you replace games industry with The Escapist this is weirdly prophetic 😂😂

[@Corusame]

3:35 Good ol' left hand, the mysterious stranger we love to get to know intimately from time to time.

[@paperplanes6673]

The end comment was the best. Thanks yahtzee for many years of great reviews. I have to ask though, do you enjoy any games? I would love to see a video about the games you don't stop playing.

[@michaelolson7626]

Yahtzee in 2008: Fine in theory, but theories are treacherous things that can at any moment disintegrate like a biscuit raft. Yahtzee in 2019: You can't forever smell your own farts without getting a bit of poo on your nose.

[@gutsgattsu5541]

Can’t wait for your Sekiro review!

[@13666RAI]

sadly thats like in 2 weeks for youtube ~maybe~

[@SPM0717]

Next week is The Division 2.

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

@@SPM0717 division 2 is out now. sekiro is next week but he already said on the stream he doesn't like it as much as dark souls 1.

[@jotabeas22]

It is a "Like Dark Souls but" game, with stealth elements and a (slightly clunky) parrying combat system. Don't think Yahtzee will give it too much credit.

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

@@jotabeas22 The parry system is only clunky if you're bad at it.

[@sirfailalotful]

No... No, let's keep calling them spectacle fighters.

[@lugbzurg8987]

They're not fighting games, so no.

[@userjames2009]

@@lugbzurg8987 I was going to disagree with you, but I looked up a definition of "fighting games" before commenting to be sure and I think you're right. Fighters are a subtype of action game that emphases 1 vs 1 fights (whether the opponent is a human or an AI), especially with rounds and taking place in fixed locations. So because Dante is fighting hordes of enemies and running around, DMC mostly isn't really a fighting game (except for some bits when you are in a fixed location fighting 1 vs. 1 against an AI opponent). Maybe DMC should be called a Spectacle Hack & Slash. (Or a Stylish Hack & Slash. "Keeping it stylish!" - Dante)

[@lugbzurg8987]

@@userjames2009 Capcom and Sony seem to officially call them "Stylish Action Games", I believe. (There's a DMC5 trailer that uses those exact, specific words.) I know a lot of people use this term. I've also heard "Technical Action Game" before.

[@wiimaster06]

I just call them fun

[@eviegifford7019]

it’s been a while since i’ve watched this, i need to get used to how quickly he speaks again 😂😂

[@BloodEyesDragon]

Personally, I've always gone with "stylish action", but you present a good argument for "spectacle fighter".

[@spectrumbots4268]

Zero Punctuation: Character Action Featuring Dante From The Devil May Cry Series!

[@Terf1988]

Ah yes, "Spectacle Fighters" - was that first referenced in the Madworld review way back when? I wish Yahtzee had created a "chest high wall" shirt back in the day.

[@BottleWaterson]

Character Action is an umbrella term used to make the God of War players feel like their apart of the club, "your" term Glasses Brawler is closer to the Platinum and DMC variety like you said. Usually the signifier for Character action is: Does it have High Time, and, Can you juggle enemies.

[@blummie1215]

DMC 5 does nothing new while introducing a character who plays like no other character in the series, makes each character distinct from one another with Styles, devil breakers and demonic control. And tied up the story of DMC in the neatest bow possible but it didn’t literally give anyone but Dante a laser cannon so it’s probably just the same as the other ones

[@MrMetalforever5]

V turned out to be my favorite part of this game, both gameplay and character wise. The only edgy emo type I can tolerate is the kind that can recite poetry with a smile. And is also accompanied by a smartass bird and quiet panther that he can Stand Summon to fight for him. Hope they bring him back somehow in the next game.

[@maxastro]

I really enjoyed V's personality, but I was terrible at playing him. I thought he was kind of a bad character until my friend got ahold of him and demonstrated what an unstoppable beast he can be if played right.

[@trevingrayek791]

I like him a hell of a lot more than Dante and Nero.

[@trevingrayek791]

@@maxastro Its insane how much he can do

[@Dylan_Otto]

"Spectacle Fighters make testicles lighter" XD I'm so quoting this whenever I talk about Japanese hack-n-slash games with anyone from now

[@DAEDMAN55]

Hey Yahtzee. I know you probably won't see this but i got to play a level with you in this game and i have been a huge fan of Devil May Cry and your videos even since i was in Highschool years ago. Thank you for giveing me a stylish rank and i was so glad i got to play a level with my favorite reviewer.

[@paradoxicalreciver9295]

Well, according to steam, character action games are now called SPECTACLE FIGHTERS, so heres hoping he's happy about it!

[@shanecommins7968]

"You need me more than I need you" said the video game critic to the video game industry, fooling no one.

[@TheKrossRoads]

Isn't it true, though? I'm certain that if ZP became about reviewing movies, tv shows, or the backs of milk cartons, Yahtzee wouldn't lose that many views. The gaming industry, however, would lose one of the few trusted voices it has left.

[@shanecommins7968]

@@TheKrossRoads You're confusing video game journalism with the industry at large. People aren't about to stop playing games just because they don't trust critics.

[@TheKrossRoads]

@@shanecommins7968 I dispute that. If gamers feel like they are being willfully mislead on a certain title, buy rates for that title can definately suffer. It happened with Aliens: Colonial Marines, it happened with No Man's Sky, it happened with Mighty Number 9, etc. Perhaps the most famous example is Daikatana, where Romero talked a big game and then delivered almost none of it while the game sold like an umbrella stand in a shower. Games journalism is intimately linked with the industry as a whole, to the point where some sites like IGN and Gamespot operate more as marketing wings of publishers, or straight up propaganda, than objective reporting. Reviewers that savvy gamers can trust are depressingly few and far between, and to lose one is a blow to the entire industry as a whole.

[@shanecommins7968]

@@TheKrossRoads So, several things. First, do you really think ZP generates more demand for and sale of games? Have you ever listened to Yahtzee's reviews? He rags venemously on 95% of the games he covers. While I'd concede his favourable reviews probably do lead to a sales bump for those games, that's not the same as an aggregate increase in sales for the industry as a whole. He's a critic a large part of whose selling point is a willingness to knock lumps out of any part of the industry; credibility is all very well, but if that just means the credible journalist is calling a lot of games shit, that's not going to help sales, is it? Second, it isn't obvious to me that the point about gamers feeling misled requires ZP at all. You said yourself that the most famous example of a game failing because of its own bullshit hype was Daikatana, long before Yahtzee's time. I'd also point to the latest Fallout disaster, which had been pissed on by everyone before Yahtzee got to it. This is obviously a counter-factual thing and I could be wrong, but my suspicion is that a large and increasing number of gamers are becoming discerning enough to sniff out bad games without ZP's help. I'd finally note that the video games industry is the biggest entertainment industry in the world, by miles. It is simply not the case that its multi-billion dollar revenues are going to evaporate because Yahtzee stops bashing its products. He's a drop in the ocean of a business that will churn on. Without video games, though, he'd be out of a job (also not true that he could get by reviewing something else, but this is already essay length and I should really stop now).

[@thefinestmoviemaker]

Yet again another good video yahtz! Think you could do a zero punctuation on escape from tarkov its a realistic shooter (online only basically an mmo) but solo play is actually fun. Being scared out of skull when your player sneezes but, when you kill a squad of pmc's by yourself headshotting them with your shitty ak against their m4 and tanks as armour to finally kill them to only have 1 leg and you thorax left freak out, heal up enough to loot finally sort it all and die standing up.

[@DmitriStormblood]

I called em action platformer games but soectacle fighter does fit the bill. He was relatively nice to them, surprising.

[@BugsyFoga]

With Devil May Cry 5 being released it goes to show that Dmc will merely be a forgotten edgy memory in the eyes of Capcom.

[@redgraveflame4367]

@@macmcskullface1004 Theres a difference between being cheesy and being edgy.

[@redgraveflame4367]

@@macmcskullface1004 2 was made in earnest for 4 months and 1 is the definition of 90s action movie cheese. Not like the reboot where Donte has a whole scene where he had to rip open his chest to "see if he can still call himself sane, to see if he could call himself human." The rest of that game isnt much better.

[@gv2212]

no ,dmc was my favorite

[@zackbrangen1528]

*Son:* Dad, What's DmC: Devil May Cry? *Dad:* Son, we don't talk about DmC: Devil May Cry, just keep it in the void where it belong.

[@definitelynotpaul9209]

​@@macmcskullface1004 I mean, a couple lines were RE levels of awkward (not terribly surprising since it was RE4 originally), sure, but there's plenty of intentional camp and cheese throughout the game. The entire opening cutscene, "flock off, featherface," shit talking Phantom at the start of his first fight, etc. And, more to the point, that was the very first game in the series. Things have evolved and the tone has changed since too. Reverting back to trying to be hardcore edgy (substantially edgier than anything in 1/2) after 3 and 4 is a major tonal shift.

[@TNuuv]

trish and lady will be dlc or in a "special edition", who wants to bet on it

[@lugbzurg8987]

Lady, Trish, and Vergil are pretty much a given, after Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition. Though, I could really go for some curveballs, like Lucia, Nico decked out in tech, and Donte.

[@wiimaster06]

A true DLC curveball would be making Viewtiful Joe a playable character since Dante was playable in Viewtiful Joe 1

[@deetee5080]

I fooking love your one liners But I lost it at the mystery machine bit

[@benedictrogers1478]

Having just got something that can run it and finished the game literally today, DMCV does something right by aiming at the series existing fanbase and nobody else. While if you haven't beaten every other game you won't get that the last four missions dive right into the series themes that the reboot forgot about, it's also just one of the few games in recent years to have no shame in being short and linear. Despite the fact that the series is (very intentionally) made of cheese it has a well earned confidence that yes, you will replay it because it is just that fun.

[@neogamest123logic2]

What are you blind clearly it's also catering to the reboot fanbase as it retreads it's story. DmC reboot DLC Vergil downfall. This game is a casual cake woke and the story is a god awful regressive shit fest. Expectations have not been exceeded a total wash is what it is.

[@novadselir1068]

Still my game of the year

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

This and Dunkey are the only reviews I care for now.

[@hisholiness4537]

ACG.

[@HarryCasanovadevilhunter]

Dude dunkey is alot better than this guy

[@oyster2746]

there was one or two missions where you can have all 3 characters on screen at once, but you do seem to start the level at diffrent times

[@gearsofdawn]

DMC 3 had multiplayer as well, if you had a second controller when using the doppelganger ability and hit select (ps2) other person could control the clone.

[@android19willpwn]

man I love that they rounded out their trifecta of "Cool, but in a lame way" with Kylo Ren cosplaying as Marilyn Manson. V is great.

[@williammoore1030]

I think your looking for Hack and Slash. Never ever heard character fighter, ever.

[@GuyerTown]

but diablo styled games also fall under the "hack n slash" umbrella

[@joeymcmuffin9133]

V neither hacks not slashes

[@wiimaster06]

Shadow does though

[@zackbrangen1528]

01:04 *"Are You Ready For Me Yet"* 😂😂😂😂

[@CaptainIcebeard]

I'll go with your name for it, Yahtz. Spectacle fighter really does sound quite nice.

[@captain_nerdrage7091]

I prefer the term Spectacle Fighter

[@TheHitchhiker]

>Human >Easiest Difficulty level for literally every game Yahtzee you have played DMC, right? EDIT: I was wrong as shit, it was only called that for DMC4. Regardless, go back and play with devil hunter if we're actually playing the videogame.

[@Lisa_Minci96]

I mean he does button mash through these games at the end of the day

[@HundredDaysMusic]

Well now that you've mentioned it, and because it was my childhood, you have to do a zp on Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing.

[@vdate]

I will firmly maintain that the Timothy Zahn novel trilogy (...which kind of started the extended universe business, so well done there for 'choice of representative image') were among the best things I've ever experienced at 'doing well those things that made us really love the original Star Wars movies.' If only for them, the EU was worth having. On the other hand, the rest of it was probably pretty eh so I dunno, maybe it's good that it's gone. ..,all of which I hadn't thought about in years, until one of the Zahn novels was chosen as the EU's representative in the 'dustbin of history' shot. Thanks, Yahtzee.

[@ShadowWolfRising]

I'm still waiting for a new Breath of Fire and Megaman X (And Legends, Misadventures of Tron Bonne, and Command Mission.).

[@jackdreas4415]

Last week "I'm saving DMC V for the release drought" This week: reviews DMC V. Looks like the release drought came earlier than expected

[@jorkington5596]

I mean, this review came out last week, so the drought came alot earlier than expected

[@Unownshipper]

I like the idea of "Spectacle Fighter" as a genre.

[@thenotoriousdig610]

So that soda stream joke made me lol for a solid minute

[@ItsTheFizz]

OLD YAHTZEE YELLS AT CHARACTER ACTION

[@stevenr.rodriguez9997]

You didn’t mention the pre-visualization cutscenes, you’re review is invalid.

[@XiaNingTian]

I'm new to the franchise and thoroughly loved DMC 5. Surprised I never played any installment until now. Wish the story was just a bit longer. Looking forward to DMC 6 whenever *if ever* that happens.

[@frustratedsquirrel]

I only refer to them as Character Action Games because that's what Woolie calls them. I also feel like calling them 'spectacle fighters' is a bit confusing because it lumps them in with 'fighters' and those are typically characterized by being competitive player vs player experiences, which these kind of games rarely are.

[@jayarby8494]

What’s your favorite Character Action game? My favorite Character Action game is Donald Trump’s Real Estate Tycoon.

[@si_w8201]

It would be really amusing if the Donald went into music post Presidency and covered Floyd's The Wall album...

[@theodorerelic2718]

@@si_w8201 Hell, I'd be satisfied if the Don would just cover The Fletcher Memorial Home :)

[@si_w8201]

@Bob Bob Why not?

[@geardog24]

I'm pissed that they still haven't brought back Lucia. Say what you want about DMC 2, she was a great character.

[@TheMightyBean321]

Was so psyched when my man yahtzee referenced days of our lives

[@fictionarch]

can't wait to see this on the top 5 best now that we are nearing the end and there doesn't seem to be much competition.

[@fafast]

Liked just because of the hate for the term "character action game"

[@SasukeTheCursed]

Personally I thought the game was fantastic. A true love letter to the fans.

[@alexanderzhmurov9624]

"Infused gummybears..?" [Hears while eating gummybears] ... Now I have paranoia too!!

[@drfarrin]

Mavis Beacon Teaches: Glorious Sword Battle Skills I'd buy that.