Diablo 4: CONFIRMED The Untold Fate of the Crusader from Diablo 3

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@ManateeExpress
@ManateeExpress Жыл бұрын
I think the dead "Johanna" you find is also a former servant of a different Johanna, seeing that D3 happened 50 years ago, I'm sure that she would not still be adventuring at that age, this would also explain the Johanna we find looking completely different from both her D3 and HOTS design. It seems to be a constant stream of succession
@ritzroldennalpajora4742
@ritzroldennalpajora4742 Жыл бұрын
nephalims have long life span...theyre not merely humans...
@69belhaven
@69belhaven Жыл бұрын
​@@ritzroldennalpajora4742 i mean she looks nothing like D3 Johanna and both D3 Johanna and Tomyris took up their masters name and armor meaning D3 wasn't the original Johanna and the one dead in this game is likely another in the line.
@ryutou-ki4dl
@ryutou-ki4dl Жыл бұрын
yea judging by 8:45 (and the fact that the tomyris, the girl youre helping wants her armor to continue her name as well) it seems this is in fact not the d3 johanna but her successor. I would argue dash has this one wrong as do most people who assume its her. if the d3 johanna was not the first and took her masters name than it seems to be a tradition since it appears to be what tomyris wants to also do.
@lvlsauce
@lvlsauce Жыл бұрын
Barbarian from d3 was already old, and he comments on it. Nephilim like rathma looks the same as he did hundreds of years ago.
@voiavictor
@voiavictor Жыл бұрын
​@@lvlsaucethe d3 barbarian looks old since originally it was supposed to be the same barbarian from diablo 2. A shame how that turned out but it's quite understandable, since there were no gender locked classses.
@TheHorreK2
@TheHorreK2 Жыл бұрын
considering the timespan its hard to believe that this is the same johanna and even more unbelievable that she helped killing the Prime Evil/Malthael and then getting killed by some brigands lol
@ManWithCrowbar
@ManWithCrowbar Жыл бұрын
great writing from blizzard lately
@CremeDeLaNut
@CremeDeLaNut Жыл бұрын
i agree that if it is the Johanna from d3, its a dumb death. As for age, nephelems do have way longer life spans so i wouldnt put it past blizzard to make her death stupid.
@RageUnchained
@RageUnchained Жыл бұрын
Age is a predator that has teeth which never dull, claws that cut deeper than any other, and with the patience to ALWAYS claim it’s prey. It’ll come fer me, and it’ll come fer you friend.
@yurinalysis8034
@yurinalysis8034 Жыл бұрын
Imagine fighting the Prime Evil Diablo and then the Angel of Death Malthael and also fighting thousands of demons and monsters alike, facing unspeakable nightmares just to be killed by some brigands with no superhuman powers.
@JoJoZaka
@JoJoZaka Жыл бұрын
@@yurinalysis8034 that's basically every main character death in the series except sorcerer who was killed by the rogue
@sunshower6560
@sunshower6560 Жыл бұрын
The Johanna that we rescue the armor from possibly was the apprentice of the crusader in Diablo III, which means at some point, the Johanna we played fell in battle.
@rosaecrux
@rosaecrux Жыл бұрын
As I said elsewhere Possible explanation, but as with Meshif, this could be a far stretch for the sake of catering nostalgia and it is argued about in the Blizzard forums as well.
@boogienightsmarkwahlberg6011
@boogienightsmarkwahlberg6011 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I don't accept at all the possibility that our D3 character was taken out by anything or anyone. We defeated the 2 biggest baddies to ever exist, then fall to a random mob? Not buying it
@rosaecrux
@rosaecrux Жыл бұрын
@@boogienightsmarkwahlberg6011 It gets addressed in the video and also pointed out that the developers took greater liberty in the details.
@JoJoZaka
@JoJoZaka Жыл бұрын
@@boogienightsmarkwahlberg6011 people get old
@shawnaw2
@shawnaw2 Жыл бұрын
@@boogienightsmarkwahlberg6011 The world is diablo is harsh. All 3 characters in D1 succumbed to Hell's influence. Some characters in D2 died/assassinated/grew old. I won't be surprised if characters in D3 died of old age or some incurable plague/cursed by something.
@nekovet69
@nekovet69 Жыл бұрын
I hope we get a crusader or a paladin to play as in the near future. I love playing as the "holy warrior" archetype.
@dariusreed563
@dariusreed563 Жыл бұрын
Or both the paladin was more about auras and zeal while the crusader was more about heavy weapons, armour and thorns
@jorjecruz1282
@jorjecruz1282 Жыл бұрын
I want that crusader archetype back honestly. I was a BEAST with him in D3. That plate armor w/ a two handed sword and a shield plowin through demons on a holy steed.
@ZakhadWOW
@ZakhadWOW Жыл бұрын
@@jorjecruz1282 I'm truly enjoying the "prequel" version of the Sader in Immortal. Holy Banner- pillar zapping things, Cage of swords arcking lightning everywhere, Sacred FIre main attack sending out arcs of fiery glory, and then the Lightning horsie that zaps everything, eventually stunning it.
@Angelic_Hero
@Angelic_Hero Жыл бұрын
I've found it weird we didn't start with one just because of how much of the story is based around working with the church.
@lilsabin
@lilsabin Жыл бұрын
I am waiting for it before buying the game , lol
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this Johanna is just the next Crusader to have taken the name since she's still young despite D3 happened decades ago. She even says in D3 that she took her master's NAME and armor, meaning that her own apprentice would likely do the same with her once she falls or retires. Also the obvious elephant in the room being that D3's Johanna was involved against Diablo and Malthael and survived them both, but died here against some random weirdos. If she survived massive demonic invasions, Prime Evils and fallen Angels, she wouldn't die against normal dudes.
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the details and the lore of the naming convention itself all point to the dead Johanna being the D3 Johanna's apprentice (or apprentice's apprentice depending on other factors) who was bestowed the name and armor after the D3 Johanna eventually retired from either old age. The corpse of the Johanna in D4 is a young woman, so it's impossible for it to be D3 Johanna since she'd be very old by now.
@fredericbrasseur7399
@fredericbrasseur7399 Жыл бұрын
There's no way a bunch of fanatics and bandits would beat one of the Nephalem, these guys were gods among men.
@JoJoZaka
@JoJoZaka Жыл бұрын
how do the regular humans of diablo 1 and 2 defeat primes then
@jonathanabgrall6075
@jonathanabgrall6075 Жыл бұрын
Considering there's 0 references to the Nephalem in D4, even Lorath who met him in person multiple time never mentions him, i'm starting to think Blizz just retcon'd that portion of D3s lore
@fredericbrasseur7399
@fredericbrasseur7399 Жыл бұрын
​@@JoJoZakaHow do you even come to that follow up question? Just because D1/D2 characters were weaker doesn't mean they weren't powerfull on their own. It would already be hard for a low life bandit to kill heroes from D1/D2. For instance, it took a Viz-Jaq'taar (an Assassin from D2) to kill Isendra, the Sorceress. It would be even harder if they were facing one of the heroes from D3.
@chatonivre2662
@chatonivre2662 Жыл бұрын
They were very strong indeed, but we are in the diablo universe. A low level ruffian could have killed the mightiest hero by slicing his throat at night.
@HelloSquiggles
@HelloSquiggles Жыл бұрын
​@@JoJoZaka The lore implies they work together at different points. So it's a combined power. I would be interested to know what the cannon suggests each D3 character's role was in the story. For instance, the Rogue of D2 canonically did not get involved until after the defeat of Mephisto.
@Torque5150
@Torque5150 Жыл бұрын
I thought that its not THE D3 crusader, rather its whoever down the line was using the name Johanna
@venveng
@venveng Жыл бұрын
D3 crusader should be around 70+ or 80 years old. That body looks like a young black woman.
@____-ju6mx
@____-ju6mx Жыл бұрын
its definetly not the crusader from D3. she'd be too old and i doubt the D3 crusader would get killed by some random bandits after fighting demons
@cr90captain89
@cr90captain89 Жыл бұрын
@@____-ju6mx could be that even though the Nephilim is eternal like angels & demons, the crusader probably decided to keep the tradition of taking up your masters name & passed it down. honoring the order & the line of masters before.
@BL00DYME55
@BL00DYME55 Жыл бұрын
yea I think a lot of fans agree this couldn't have been the player character crusader from D3, for a whole lot of reasons, from the looks and the age, to the fact that it's extremely unlikely the hero who defeated lesser and prime evils got killed by a few bandits. Whoever wrote the wiki page for Johanna got it wrong, so I just added a few lines to clear things up
@cygnusdane634
@cygnusdane634 Жыл бұрын
I like to envision "our" Johanna sometime after the events of Diablo 3, felt 'her' crusade was over and simply passed on her mantle to someone worthy. We have Lorath from the same time walk away from his path, haunted by the events he endured from that time.
@BHRamsay
@BHRamsay Жыл бұрын
Lorath has certainly seen some interesting stuff, but I want to believe that The Nephalem might still be out there
@danielgeronimo5538
@danielgeronimo5538 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't it said in the lore that these crusaders pass on their names to successors?
@ryutou-ki4dl
@ryutou-ki4dl Жыл бұрын
i just love your videos, the way you make these quests soooo engaging is amazing. also love how you voice your character and kind of roleplay it while also narrating it (its all written very well too btw). I would say youre def the best diablo lore channel and argue your the best lore channel in general on youtube.
@TwistedErrors
@TwistedErrors Жыл бұрын
I love how you narate every random encounter on the way to the quest and every happening in it gives that special flavor , really grate work .
@ryutou-ki4dl
@ryutou-ki4dl Жыл бұрын
he literally like writes it as a visual novel for lack of a better way to describe it. I just love it so much. he role plays it in such a fun way.
@TwistedErrors
@TwistedErrors Жыл бұрын
@@ryutou-ki4dl True , i watched his videos about diablo 1 and 2 it was so good , he cud be really good asset as a narator to some dark game in a future :D
@ryutou-ki4dl
@ryutou-ki4dl Жыл бұрын
@@TwistedErrors yea great voice+good writing+good editing. hes literally got it all.
@michaelmackrill6917
@michaelmackrill6917 Жыл бұрын
It would be a dream come true if I could start season 1 with the Holy Crusader....Most players would love this class in d4...
@Killer99215
@Killer99215 Жыл бұрын
New classes for when we get map expansion from the rest of Sanctuary. Skovos in the south: Amazon Westmarch west of Tristram: Paladins Far north of tristram: Monk Etc..
@TheRocksta1986
@TheRocksta1986 Жыл бұрын
A holy crusader…. No a paladin. Crusaders were about as helpful as herpes. Paladins need to make a return from a different faith. One of the most played and loved characters from diablo 2 gets tossed aside for his retarded little brother the crusader, yet we keep the barbarian who wasnt played that much….. makes sense
@Killer99215
@Killer99215 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRocksta1986 this.
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 Жыл бұрын
What's also interesting is that crusaders are everywhere in Hawezar and Inarius' troops have tons of light-oriented spells and skills that could probably be slapped onto a crusader class. Even in the context of the story, a crusader character could be one that's on his/her way to Hawezar to join the Zakarum effort going on there until Mephisto kills their horse to jumpstart the D4 campaign.
@Rolandais
@Rolandais Жыл бұрын
For sure, the Dead Johanna we find, is not the D3 Johanna, that Johanna would be long dead or retired by now, but this is definetly one carrying on the legacy, even if our D3 Johanna, is either dead, or retired.
@blech71
@blech71 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Always have. I’ve recommended them to so many of my friends that like me just skip all the dialogue to get to smashing to come back and watch through your narrative vids. These make it is much more fun. Also, we end up getting so much more out of the story. Many times having “oh shit, ah now I get it!” Moments when your vids tie it all together in an awesome way. Great content! Keep it up! ❤
@vindurza
@vindurza Жыл бұрын
This side mission hit me hard since crusader was my D3 main
@BaoNguyen-bh2rk
@BaoNguyen-bh2rk Жыл бұрын
I haven't played Diablo since the very first game. I love how deep the lore has become.
@marcuslobo5765
@marcuslobo5765 Жыл бұрын
The crusaders and paladins have really been given the short end of the stick. Both with tragic stories vs others who had apprentices etc. and kinda had good retirements
@ribertfranhanreagen9821
@ribertfranhanreagen9821 Жыл бұрын
well it's diablo universe, have too much faith on demon or angel and you are screwed.
@BL00DYME55
@BL00DYME55 Жыл бұрын
I just want to know what the hell happened to the OG barb from D2. The best of all the barbs.
@yurinalysis8034
@yurinalysis8034 Жыл бұрын
@@BL00DYME55 We don't know anything about the D2 Barbarian or what happened to him after D2. The only thing we know from the quotes of Malah the healer in Harrogath of D2 Act V that the D2 Barbarian was a friend of her son and he hails from Harrogath itself.
@sleepyhealer
@sleepyhealer Жыл бұрын
Elisa already said,”there is no light here.”
@ZakhadWOW
@ZakhadWOW Жыл бұрын
as much as I hate the Danuser era of writing (everythign postMetzen basically) It makes *some* sense that if anyone truly died in battle it would be the Paladin/Crusader.. They are they holy warriors who should be leading the charge, followed closely by the monks on their flanks (with all that teleporting fist business and all) and the Barbarians as well, with their massive leaps into the middle of groups gathered by Sader/monk. Demon Hunters/Druids/Rogues covering the far edges and seeking to outflank, with the Wizard/Sorceress/furthest back. The WitchDoctors/Necromancers in front of them directing waves of minions.
@felmaster3534
@felmaster3534 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the midnset that the dead Johanna we find is either the apprentice, or the apprentice of the apprentice of the D3 Johanna. Considering she was Nephalem, the only Johanna wouldn't have gone down without a fight, and likely lasted longer as a soldier than many others.
@BingBangPoe
@BingBangPoe Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the appearance of Johanna's corpse is randomized or that this was a visual glitch. When I played this quest and found her corpse, it had a hairstyle closer to her Heroes of the Storm version. Similarly, I've seen other NPCs getting "different haircuts" when playing on different characters.
@Unchainedful
@Unchainedful Жыл бұрын
It isn’t randomized, it’s a static corpse. It may have been updated since there’s an update every day on the game.
@daysleeperCid
@daysleeperCid Жыл бұрын
Tropic Thunder's Simple Jack's haircut is spot-on with that of the dead crusader. the resemblance is uncanny!
@Jekkzur01
@Jekkzur01 Жыл бұрын
Omg how you added in D3 parts just perfect and well done. This why your so amazing the streamlessness of everything!!! Just simply smooth and coukd watch 100 times over!!! Love your work. You ever ask for patronage i will be in line helping out!!!
@Bl4keBelladonna
@Bl4keBelladonna Жыл бұрын
my crusader would never fall like this , i killed MILLIONS of demons :/
@Xehemoth
@Xehemoth Жыл бұрын
9:46 Either that, or Johanna may had already been "replaced" before the events of Diablo 4. Either the Johanna we knew from Diablo 3 died, or more curiously abandoned her faith.
@Ghostman128x
@Ghostman128x Жыл бұрын
Gotta love his story telling even on event missions or simply walking in the open world.
@lolbots686
@lolbots686 Жыл бұрын
Idea The necromancer on the way eyed tomyris. "You said your mentors name was johanna,yes?" "Er,yes why?" "I was merely curious. In my early days of training,my mentor spoke of traveling with many individuals,one of which being a crusader of akarat who bore an armor of unshakable faith." "I...see. who was your mentor if i may ask?" The necromancer nods,reaching into his pouch a small locket that held a small drawing of a group of people. A woman in crusader armor. A man in similar armor,a man who seemed more like a swindler,a woman of unearthly almost desert esque beauty,then finaly,a pale woman who bore a scythe. "My mentor was Mira,a necromancer like myself...and a true specter of death in her own right." Tomyris was shocked. "I...wow...you must have been close huh?" "Id like to think so. we were great as a group. But my mentors power was so far beyond mine. I studied blood magic,whilst mira could unleash an army of vengeful dead with a whispered promise of vindication. But sadly,she has moved on to carry her dutys befiting her new nature. I have not seen my mentor since. Knowing lorath however...i like to think when it is his time to come,he will at least see a friend he once fought beside. It is my hope at least." The aprentice crusader nodded. "That was very moving. Where do you think she is now?" "Knowing my mentor? Ha...my mentor usurped the angel who played at being death himself. If i know anything...she will only rest when her duty in the cycle is concluded. Such is the fate of every necromancer." The group arrived. "Well,my mentor awaits." The necromancer nodded. "Indeed. So she does." To be continued...
@lilywong9672
@lilywong9672 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's not the same Johanna? They did say they take the names of their masters so it could be they why look different. Plus this was 50 years after Diablo III and that corpse looks too young to be in their 70s.
@mistajongilbert
@mistajongilbert Жыл бұрын
Dash, you got me when you slipped Tropic Thunder in there. You got me good
@XcelesteXmagixX
@XcelesteXmagixX Жыл бұрын
You should cover the D3 followers! I was so happy to catch up with rogue Lyndon. I wonder if Eiryna and Cormac are somewhere in D4 as well 🤔
@jorgearturobedrinanaromano5567
@jorgearturobedrinanaromano5567 Жыл бұрын
"fun fact" like 10 years a go there werw some dialogs dataminedad of a quest that was never implemented in ROS in wich Eiryna and Cormac falled in love, maybe a D4 could be their son/daughter XD
@Niflheimrr_EL
@Niflheimrr_EL Жыл бұрын
​@jorgearturobedrinanaromano5567 the first time I heard crusader Warwic in D4 I thought it was Kormac. So having him be son could be nice or it could be Kormac but he adopted a Crusaders name after their death.
@snowieken
@snowieken Жыл бұрын
@@Niflheimrr_EL That's indeed the same voice actor. I expected him to belt out "Gloriousss" or "Jondarrrrr" at any moment.
@ZakhadWOW
@ZakhadWOW Жыл бұрын
@@snowieken DOminic Keating keeps on Giving.
@TonyTheTemplar
@TonyTheTemplar Жыл бұрын
@@jorgearturobedrinanaromano5567 what if Kormac and Eiryna started their own Holy Knight order together and we will find out what happened to them when a new class from that order comes out. It makes sense.... Kormacs order was corrupted, he loved Eiryna, her order was founded by an angel, and we know Karmac preferred weapon was the Spear and shield. All of these traits can be found in the leaked image of the Holy 6th class that Blizzard leaked last year
@rossedwards7296
@rossedwards7296 Жыл бұрын
Truly my favourite Diablo content creator! Could watch and listen to all of these all day
@geraldhiller
@geraldhiller Жыл бұрын
That was clever placing the ad into the event edit.
@justanothermedly
@justanothermedly Жыл бұрын
You're an amazing story teller. I love the Diablo storyline and you really do it justice. - Keep up the good work and thank you for what you do!
@tiagomagalhaes7032
@tiagomagalhaes7032 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's meant to be Johanna for two reasons, and the devs don't seem to be pointing in that direction either. Compare to the D2 Paladin sidequest story, where they leave lot's of easter eggs to tie that story to the fate of D2 paladin. There's barely any in this story, besides the character having the name Johanna, a name that we know was not her real name and that she took her master's shield and name after their death, so it would make sense that her student would have done the same and that would probably be who we are seeing dead. Like, this is 50 years after D3...it would make absolute sense that Johanna has already died either in combat or from old age before we start this story.
@Hochspitz
@Hochspitz Жыл бұрын
Keep the stories and quests coming, I love them!
@PapaDeusVult
@PapaDeusVult Жыл бұрын
While I enjoy Johanna as a character from Heroes of the Storm, I'm of the belief that the canon Crusader from Diablo 3 is Anajinn from the 'The End of Her Journey' short story that Blizzard released instead. For one, it fits more narratively since she does make mention that she's investigating a disturbance in Tristram at the end of the story. Second, as per the weapons in Diablo 3 that were tied to Johanna, the tooltip blurbs state that she suddenly and mysteriously went missing (presumably stumbling into the Nexus). Without an apprentice to carry on her crusade, her weapons, and place in the order-her name was stricken from the rolls and roster of the Crusaders. If we're to take all of that as canon, a Johanna shouldn't even exist anymore. Unless of course the Crusader order from Diablo 3 has changed rather drastically in Diablo 4 in just half a century and isn't precisely the same one that was introduced to us. Given how entirely bleak it all seems to be on Sanctuary from the Fractured Peaks to the swamps of Hawezar as of this installment, it wouldn't surprise me if even the mighty Crusaders have fallen so far in less than a generation. Humbling and saddening-as I love the Crusader and its lore-but entirely on-brand
@RageUnchained
@RageUnchained Жыл бұрын
The crusaders and paladins are both offshoots of the same order originally so it’s always possible that this sect of crusaders is an offshoot of the one we saw, besides that if we recall Johanna from D3s primary objective was always the redemption of the zakarun faith. If she was successful prior to her disappearance it’s also possible like historically has happened within various churches in our own history that the zakarun faith went through a period of reform and change.
@feanorwindwhispers9936
@feanorwindwhispers9936 Жыл бұрын
YES! I remember that too.
@PapaDeusVult
@PapaDeusVult Жыл бұрын
@@RageUnchained "besides that if we recall Johanna from D3s primary objective was always the redemption of the zakarun faith." Isn't that pretty much the primary objective of all the Crusaders that Akkhan originally assembled? And has been for each apprentice they've taken over the generations? I mean, sure. Each Crusader had their own idea how to go about their journey-like how Anajinn seeks the Light, whatever form that may take-but the entire brotherhood's objective is the redemption of the faith. My take on the canon Crusader being Anajinn-instead of Johanna-is also thematically fitting. Anajinn is the 'Seeker of the Light', as far as the order is concerned, and the latest iteration of Anajinn awakened to power within herself: her nephalem birthright. It goes full circle with Akarat having witnessed the nephalem Uldyssian's sacrifice during the Sin War, mistaking it as a visitation from the 'angel' Yaerius. Akarat preached Zakara, or the "inner light", and Anajinn manifested it-just as the other heroes did
@LionLadTV
@LionLadTV Жыл бұрын
bless you for using the hots intro 😍
@noirdixneuf
@noirdixneuf Жыл бұрын
I love how the zone quest got put into the lore XD
@Uber_GoobTube
@Uber_GoobTube Жыл бұрын
Oh Boy! Here I got enjoying lore again.
@hated7dtd
@hated7dtd Жыл бұрын
From slaying demons, angels, and Diablo himself to dying to such plebs. This must have been some other crusader already.
@SirGlacius1
@SirGlacius1 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful series! I love it!! May I suggest you turn off the damage numbers for maximum immersion? Can't wait for more
@cbrock68
@cbrock68 Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna assume the johana we find dead isn’t the original johana we play as in Diablo 3 but maybe a recruit that took up her name like tomyris because I have a hard time believing a crusader who fought both THE prime evil and maltheal would die to a bunch of bandits lead by a rogue church knight
@rosaecrux
@rosaecrux Жыл бұрын
Oh that is an interesting take. I did not play D3 and I like to see those connections.
@evanlord6428
@evanlord6428 Жыл бұрын
Dude, your voice is amazing!
@DarkLOREDash
@DarkLOREDash Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@patrikzotaj4528
@patrikzotaj4528 Ай бұрын
will crusader return as a class.
@randyg280
@randyg280 Жыл бұрын
Great content as usual. Not sure I trust that wiki. With a gap of 30 years between games, it makes more sense that it's Johanna's apprentice, which would mean she passed way earlier. I can't see a crusader making it to their 50s/60s while fighting demons in sanctuary.
@OldBaldWookiee
@OldBaldWookiee Жыл бұрын
I mean in a world where magic and demons exist why would that be so far fetched. Look how old donan and lorath are and they are on a quest of life and death of the utmost importance
@BL00DYME55
@BL00DYME55 Жыл бұрын
@@OldBaldWookiee both Donan and Lorath hung up their hats long ago. Donan settled in Scosglen and started taking it easy as he got older, and Lorath became a hermit, living in solitude and avoiding civilization entirely, once again, likely due to age. It's only because of the player character they came back to stop Lilith, and even then Donan was very difficult to convince to return, even after what Lilith did to his son. So I don't think it's the same crusader, because even in Diablo universe people quit dangerous work when they get older.
@OldBaldWookiee
@OldBaldWookiee Жыл бұрын
@@BL00DYME55 yet they both embarked on one last quest of apocalyptic proportions. How is it you are dodging the obvious point im making here? Also look at Deckard Cain. That old fossil should have retired long ago but he travelled sanctuary and helped the heroes until his final days .
@OldBaldWookiee
@OldBaldWookiee Жыл бұрын
@@BL00DYME55 also lorath literally follows you and kills demons in d4 Donan as well
@BL00DYME55
@BL00DYME55 Жыл бұрын
@@OldBaldWookiee I didn't say they didnt follow you and kill the demons. Your initial point was that this is the corpse of the same crusader as the player character in D3, because people dont retire from killing demons in Diablo universe. My counter-argument was - yes people do retire, and both characters you brought up in fact did retire from their Horadric duties prior to the events of D4. It's only after you, the Wanderer, visit both of them and convinces them to help you, that they become "unretired". And yes, Deckard Cain was one stubborn old man, so he did pursue the knowledge and fight demons until his last days, so he is the rare example of somebody who never retired. But the point remains, most people do retire with age. So when we find a corpse of Johanna half a century after we last saw her, that looks nothing like her and is too young to be the same Johanna, it is safe to assume that Johanna from D3 either retired or died long ago, and the corpse we find in Maugan's folly is Johanna's apprentice who donned her armor and the name as is their tradition.
@LDSG_A_Team
@LDSG_A_Team Жыл бұрын
Petition for Dark Lore Dash to voice a character or NPC in Diablo at some point. His voice is too good.
@dylanboyle4137
@dylanboyle4137 Жыл бұрын
Nice narration and voice, I thought you were a diablo character for the first 30 seconds.
@ambushbob5383
@ambushbob5383 Жыл бұрын
The same crusader that fought the prime evil killed by bandits...
@rogersmith9092
@rogersmith9092 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really think you have this one wrong. Even the heroes/nephalem were retconned to just regular adventurers, these "adventurers" defeated the prime evil and malthael on steroids. To simply die fighting vermin.... yeah.
@spaceduck1006
@spaceduck1006 Жыл бұрын
I got an amulet from her, thought it fit the story a lot better. Interesting to know that you can get different item drops from it though.
@s1rf0rt4h8
@s1rf0rt4h8 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait for more D4 content
@malenotyalc
@malenotyalc Жыл бұрын
2:40 I am inclined to agree with the crusaders that it is not worth losing more lives to retrieve armor. I really wish these quests were not so linear.
@vazzeee
@vazzeee Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think Blizz retconed the whole Nephalem thing from D3, and the band of human heroes vanquished the Prime Evil. Also, it is possible that this Johanna was an apprentice to the D3 one, cause what, she is like 30 at the time? She would be like 80 here.
@mathewcooper8505
@mathewcooper8505 Жыл бұрын
Really wish we could play as that class in D4 :( I’m kinda annoyed that there’s so much crusader lore in the game… but no class to play.
@TonyTheTemplar
@TonyTheTemplar Жыл бұрын
i agree completely. in fact i don't even want to listen to the dialogue of side quests until i can do it with a Holy Knight class to have a better immersion experience lol
@thesagerodel4485
@thesagerodel4485 Жыл бұрын
This can't be the same Johanna from Diablo III; that was 50 years ago and if the body we find is still that fresh and young looking (not to mention a completely different ethnicity) then it stands to reason that the body we find took up the armor of her master, so on and so forth, from the original Johanna from Diablo III. I also note that the writers for the Fandom wiki are just lazy.
@nenzonenzo
@nenzonenzo Жыл бұрын
How the hell does some godly crusader , able to go toe to toe against angels , and upper echelon demons - get ganked by some random thugs. Also I remember this quest , but didn’t realize how important this line was until this video. This was because I was like lol what a chump, imagine getting ganked by some bandits- so I just thought this was some random crusader.
@KingGoris
@KingGoris Жыл бұрын
coincidently i finished this quest yesterday 😁
@joshframent9385
@joshframent9385 Жыл бұрын
I stopped here for D4 lore and your voice made me immediately want to open Oblivion
@themissingpeace7956
@themissingpeace7956 5 ай бұрын
The fact that D4 launched without a paladin/crusader class still makes me sad to this day.
@jsullivan649
@jsullivan649 Жыл бұрын
Anajinn is the confirmed crusader from D3? Joanna was an entirely different one as we even find items with her name in them in 3.
@lordmarwolaeth4570
@lordmarwolaeth4570 Жыл бұрын
Nope, the confirmed Crusader we play in Diablo 3 is Johanna.
@kd9749
@kd9749 Жыл бұрын
This is likely the successor (or two) from the D3 Crusader, as ‘Johanna’ is a title, not strictly a name. This still provides some insight into the fate of Johanna from D3. As it’s unlikely she retired, it’s save to assume that she died in battle at some point and the title was passed on.
@robotmick8977
@robotmick8977 Жыл бұрын
my head canon for this is that its one of Johannas successors she gets the armour from
@numerodez6558
@numerodez6558 3 ай бұрын
Maybe the Johanna that is dead isn't the one from D3, she could very well be a disciple of hers since appearently the name continues from master to apprentice. That would explain the completely different designt and age.
@Ligh7Bulb
@Ligh7Bulb Жыл бұрын
9:45 Simple Johanna. Best movie ever 🍿
@KuddlesbergTheFirst
@KuddlesbergTheFirst Жыл бұрын
What happens to Sonya the Barbarian? She became a cannibal boss of the Dry Steps known "The Snu Snu"?
@Basada79
@Basada79 Жыл бұрын
Shouldnt she be an old laddy now? Its 50 years later and all other characters aged appropriately. LOVE your work. Big big fan of all your videos
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, either that's an apprentice, or some random bandits are more deadly than the Angel of Death... I know which is more plausible to me.
@siindree
@siindree 4 ай бұрын
Think I agree with some of the comments that it could be a different Johanna we see here instead of the Nephelim Johanna from D3, there were no mentions of increadible Nephelim powers in this guest either...
@jroberts2nd
@jroberts2nd Жыл бұрын
Diablo IV is basically “hey did you main crusader? Too bad, we’re gonna rain death and pain unimaginable on them.”
@agaaga7748
@agaaga7748 Жыл бұрын
if only all side quests were as interesting as this. This is literally the only side quest I remember
@voidsentoni5977
@voidsentoni5977 Жыл бұрын
Ah this side quest.. this is one side quest I remember most bc the line "You can't be serious Tomyris..." repeating when visiting the inn 😂
@BL00DYME55
@BL00DYME55 Жыл бұрын
I get a whole bunch of ghost lines in various areas around the map. Usually areas where quest NPCs used to be at some point during the story. Must be a bug, cause the characters that say these lines arent even there anymore. I just hear a random voice talking with nobody around, still startles me sometimes lol
@bubbaknows5926
@bubbaknows5926 Жыл бұрын
You are a great story teller. Read me a bedtime story of the old days before the fall of The Lord of Destruction, Baal.
@SCnightmareSC
@SCnightmareSC Жыл бұрын
Every playable character in D3 were all Nephalim. I honestly think that whom ever you chose had a reason for not coming back in some way, shape or form. This Johanna is not the same person. Jus the same name. Wether given to or self appointed.
@edhu9
@edhu9 Жыл бұрын
The playable crusader from D3 is Anajinn, not Johanna. Plus looking at the end of this quest, Johanna looks like a title among crusaders.
@feanorwindwhispers9936
@feanorwindwhispers9936 Жыл бұрын
Johanna was not the heroine from Diablo 3, her name was actually Anajinn,that is the reason why Johanna has fair hair. It is stated by Myriam that whe heroes will have a calm life after defeating Malthael. It like Sonya from HotS, Kerr is the main Character in Diablo 3, Sonya is for HotS.
@Luksusowy91
@Luksusowy91 Жыл бұрын
I just done tgis quest today xD
@ladylynxelot9925
@ladylynxelot9925 Жыл бұрын
Because the lore is super muddled, of course the conquerer of the one prime evil would randomly fall in a swamp where a random level twenty Necromancer can crush it.
@stalarionjagarn188
@stalarionjagarn188 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, but I'm inclined to think like many in the comment that this was an apprentice and not the nephalem herself.
@cerogravity8653
@cerogravity8653 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to add her as a crusader skin when they add the character.
@Ieatpaste23
@Ieatpaste23 Жыл бұрын
I love this guy's voice.
@dread1187
@dread1187 Жыл бұрын
I do not believe that Johanna is the player's Crusader, but a legendary name of a different crusader in the line. The items Johanna's Argument and Guard of Johanna both describe a different hero than that of our player, but I suppose D3 doesn't tell you that you cannot be Johanna as she is absent from the game. Either way, this video is great.
@desertman2008
@desertman2008 Жыл бұрын
Johannaaa face to represent, "Simple Jack". I💀💀💀
@slickperspective
@slickperspective Жыл бұрын
Man, this stories made me want to PLAY ALL characters in Diablo universe! They gottta bring back all these heroes to Diablo 4. Come on now. Bring back all those and some new characters.
@danielcontreras6778
@danielcontreras6778 Жыл бұрын
It could also happend that the Johanna from Diablo 3 died of old age and this Johanna we found dead is her apprentice just carry the name in his honnor.
@vmac8972
@vmac8972 Жыл бұрын
We need Crusader class since the paladin’s order is no more. It could be the beginning of restoring the paladin order maybe?
@johngohchuanheng3417
@johngohchuanheng3417 Жыл бұрын
There is Lyndon in Backwater Hawezar .... i wonder how many more d3 characters
@KagagiouX
@KagagiouX Жыл бұрын
End result: she became a crusader... faith doubting and ale drinking included.
@Mortybarkeep
@Mortybarkeep Жыл бұрын
its crazy cause i posted this to the Diablo 4 group on facebook only to get flagged
@christopherzirkel1792
@christopherzirkel1792 Жыл бұрын
Oh man! It looked like the previous Johanna in diablo 3 had perished. But at least her legacy lives on to another female crusader.
@Jackson-pd2vj
@Jackson-pd2vj Жыл бұрын
All im just hoping that in the new DLC there is a Crusader class. It would only make sense because there is no holy class in D4.
@Durahan82
@Durahan82 Жыл бұрын
9:30 and race . That one doesn't look like The Crusader from Diablo 3 at all .
@B1G_LU
@B1G_LU Жыл бұрын
All I’m getting from the videos I’ve seen about all the previous player charaters is don’t fight against hell because it ends horribly even if you are victorious
@DarkLOREDash
@DarkLOREDash Жыл бұрын
Agreed, unfortunately 😔
@yurinalysis8034
@yurinalysis8034 Жыл бұрын
Diablo 4 reveals the fates of some past Diablo 2 and 3 heroes who fought against the Prime Evils, 1st its Carthas the D2 Paladin and now Johanna the female D3 Crusader. I hope we got more info about the rest of the heroes like the D2 Barbarian, Assassin, Druid and the rest of D3 characters.
@lordmarwolaeth4570
@lordmarwolaeth4570 Жыл бұрын
The corpse looks different from the Johanna in Diablo 3 so it's no doubt her apprentice.
@LoreMaster007
@LoreMaster007 Жыл бұрын
“Inside her beats a mortal heart that will be tempted by corruption. On that day will she have the strength to resist or will she be our doom?!” 50 years later she gets killed by a no body. Great job Blizzard. Love to see that you put effort into the story. 😂
@DanJoymonger
@DanJoymonger Жыл бұрын
Considering that the heroes of D3 were Nephilem, it should have taken a lot to end any of them.
@arcadealchemist
@arcadealchemist Жыл бұрын
crusader best class i enjoyed playing but since everyone gets a horse in D4 no point playing it without crusader.
@theodorsik
@theodorsik Жыл бұрын
So… was the crusader not a nephelim?
@odinulveson9101
@odinulveson9101 Жыл бұрын
Paladins, Crusaders. And what about we finally get to play and learn more about the TEMPLARS alredy? The Templars were ruthless and male only but could reform themself. Then we got Three distinct tincan factions with varying takes on protecting the innocent, if not the light and whoop demons and devils behinds.
@aguiar6636
@aguiar6636 Жыл бұрын
So Crusader got killed by random mobs like a punk.... When she fought against hordes and hordes of mythical demons in D3.... That makes perfect sense to me!
@briankay3146
@briankay3146 Жыл бұрын
That corpse isn't even blond so it isn't the D3 Johanna. And if it is, yeah she probably died to a HC disconnect. Doesn't matter how good you are if that happens.
@rosaecrux
@rosaecrux Жыл бұрын
Somehow, someone is living the Kain life of Legacy of Kain, hm? 😏
@chrisxmarine
@chrisxmarine Жыл бұрын
Any word on the D2 druid?
@Athorax
@Athorax Жыл бұрын
What's the matter with Blizzard?! First they kill the Diablo 2 Paladin and now the Crusader too?!! Insane..
@riktorGaming
@riktorGaming Жыл бұрын
I think that dying from fighting bandits it's kind of a lame way to go for someone who actually fought the aspect of death and survived.
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