Did 'Posterior Praise' Cause Lonely Deputy to Throw a 'Jail Mary?' | Vicky White Update & Analysis

This video answers the question: Can I offer an update on the case of Vicky White and Casey White? This case was the topic of a Netflix documentary titled “Jailbreak: Love on the Run.”
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[@2legit2Kwit]

I was a jail nurse for 6 weeks until I quit. Most of the younger incarcerated men have anti social personality and high risk taking which makes them exciting and I can see someone like her throwing it all away as she never felt she was rocked hard in life. I left because I realized it was very unsafe physically and most people are on meds that keep them subdued. A lot of manipulative mental cases.

[@eveapple4928]

Yup I work in a jail type setting. The manipulative narcissists are everywhere! If they think they can charm you they can’t help themselves. It’s really important not to lose focus and remember that you are in authority and have a responsibility not to be manipulated!

[@res2788]

I believe that there was a time in her life that she would have never made such a mistake, but over the years she became desperate and lonely.

[@LisaBarker-s6q]

good decision... I have a friend who was sexually assaulted working in a prison. will spare anyone the details, suffice to say am glad you left.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I met a woman a few years ago who was near the end of her LA county, Los Angeles Probation & Parole agent career(retired). She said homosexual behavior is very strong in CA jails, prisons. Parolees continue to have same sex attractions, interests.

[@blurrylights6344]

Is "rocked hard" a euphemism here? Just curious.

[@texasrefugee7888]

I was a medical officer in a 300 bed men's county jail. The jailers and deputies would constantly accuse me of wanting to get with an inmate. I'm just not turned on by needy Men or Men in Orange. And let me say by the time I left it was very difficult for me to tell who the bad guys were and who the good guys were. There's not much difference between the guys behind the bars and the guys behind the desks.

[@kodek1234]

Well this guy was a murderer. That’s a pretty big difference.

[@pnscar3]

@@kodek1234 not all are in for murder in fact murder is minority

[@davidgray1515]

Thats why most women answer they would rather be alone in the woods with a bear rather than a man.

[@sunnydelight5255]

Great comment. I know what you mean.

[@elliebellie7816]

I had a similar experience when I worked as a Prison Librarian back in the '90's. I was in my mid-30's and so were most of the inmates. I never could figure out why prison guards kept accusing me of flirting with inmates. I was like, why would I want to spend time with someone who murdered their grandmother for drug money? Or spent ten years molesting their daughter? At that time, many many inmates had AIDS - why would I want to hook up with someone with AIDS? I finally left after two years.

[@GH-oi2jf]

Worst retirement plan ever.

[@oregonsnob31]

Haha that’s funny!

[@katehack1677]

🤣👍 yep

[@jimmylight4866]

She will not outlive her benefits. So she won. Imma silver lining guy

[@nutellabrot9047]

😂😂😂

[@chrisnoname2725]

Most people waste away in retirement. Although short at least she felt alive in hers. It’s just unfortunate it took her so long to live.

[@dizzyfingers7180]

Vicky let a killer out of jail. I don’t exactly feel sorry for her. She put a dangerous individual back on the street to satisfy her own needs.

[@thecozyconstellation]

yeah it~s not like she was conned and didn~t know he was dangerous. HE WAS IN PRISON

[@feliciawalker3955]

That part.

[@SPFAlpha]

She wannid a fahk

[@Kuulei265]

It wasn’t the sex. It was the intimacy. She thought she would get that love she was missing from her life. I honestly can get into her shoes. Men do not realize what it does to a woman to be rejected sexually. To have to shut yourself down because your partner has “issues” and you are just left to deal. See, she said she put others first, not herself. Women give out to their jobs, their Husbands, their Children. At times you can feel like, “Hey, where’s mine?” Yes you can “get out” of that unsatisfactory relationship but when you’ve worked like a dog to keep it, you just cannot go back to being poor again. Sorry. It’s the truth sometimes.

[@TomN495]

@@Kuulei265her first priority, preparing for the escape, was shopping at a sex store. Not saying she didn’t crave intimacy, but she was selfishly seeking sexual excitement at the expense of the surrounding society’s safety. I do feel bad for her though, what she did was very human and we know she had to be miserable to get to this point. At the end of the day, she was the only one that got hurt.

[@jdstep97]

I cannot imagine throwing away my career and reputation for a man on the run. She must have known they would not get away.

[@There.Is.Only.Now.]

Almost as she wanted it to end like that

[@carnifaxx]

I think she felt already trapped and dead inside, so she probably wanted her last adventure and was not hoping for a good end anyway...

[@carriemindplsable]

I believe she knew she would die. She said she would go out with a bang and she did.

[@kina18]

For any man. No man is worth squandering savings, a home and security for. She could've kept all that and just dated guys who aren't criminals. Doesn't seem like she put much effort into meeting anyone decent. Maybe she wasn't dancer qualify but she wasn't ugly. She could have found someone had she made an effort. And I don't see what's wrong with living a quiet life or how that's unbearably boring. I don't see the fun in always having drama and being broke and hustling.

[@carriemindplsable]

@@kina18 I kind of feel like this was just a big suicide plot of hers. One last crazy adventure and then gone. She may have been pretty depressed

[@nanmurray2988]

Convicts can be very charming and beneath that there could be much evil.

[@katie0303]

Like Bundy.

[@Gizziiusa]

and that could be any convict, male or female.

[@elettramia6380]

Charming? I guess if you have nothing to live for

[@Euterpe65]

I always love how carefully Dr Grande chooses his words for these stories. He is a literary wordsmith!

[@kendrawaddams3174]

He does English wordyness real good! 😆

[@David-p7z9n]

Not to be petty, but is there another type of wordsmith other than a “literal” one?

[@David-p7z9n]

@@kendrawaddams3174Being a doctor, he’s had all that book learnin’ in skool.

[@Euterpe65]

@@David-p7z9n I didn’t say literal. I suppose a better descriptor would be that he’s quite adept at the art of derivation; he creates clever colloquialisms and I find it delightful.

[@David-p7z9n]

@@Euterpe65 You’re right; you did say “literary wordsmith”, but even that’s somewhat redundant :)

[@RunningInLondon]

This title 'Jail Mary' You are gold, Dr. Grande.

[@RunningInLondon]

So glad you brought the five factor OCEAN model back for this one.

[@blacksquid270]

The one that stuck out to me was "clothing challenged dancer" 😂

[@AnnaBelll.e]

😂😂😂

[@sarahfrith1984]

Dude played her, I am a cynical old bird these days, he didn’t love her, he just needed her help to escape

[@Juliet-y3g]

obviously

[@ragnardanneskjold7675]

she was exceedingly creepy.

[@kevinspacey5325]

Yeah but I bet it got her wet. People wonder why society is in the dumpster.

[@kodek1234]

She is not the victim here.

[@kevinspacey5325]

@sarahfrith1984 just another woman going for a murderer, don't notice any patterns here people, that would be sexist.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Lonely/insecure people attract narcissists. Both were immature & kooky. Great update as always. Thanks Dr G😊💙💙

[@woiowoiow190]

Not really, I was lonely for many years studying in school and it was a choice I made not to.hook up so I could be focused in my job and school. I attracted good girls, which you couldn't farther from truth. We as adult have choices, wheather we attract the "good" people or "bad" people. We choice what is right for us tending all realities and consequences. Enough of this idea that adults can't make bad decisions that lead to terrible consequences. It time people take resposibility for their poor choices in life.

[@charliechurch5004]

​@@woiowoiow190good for u but most cases it's true.

[@charliechurch5004]

Agreed so sad

[@neesiecarman9674]

I attracted a narcissist once. He mistook my quiet, independent nature as lonely and bored. It didn't end as he planned.😂

[@Bebecat477]

The self-inflicted back of the head shot seems odd to me. I do feel a bit sorry for this woman. She was lonely.

[@KingfishStevens-di9ji]

Gross stupidity

[@solsticequeen]

After watching the documentary, I want to now listen to the call fully and hear if anything sounds off. For some reason, she didn't sound like she was going to kill herself from how she spoke on the documentary. I could be wrong, but he very well could have done it so that he is the only witness. He keeps asking about his wife...which could be genuine, or could be a ploy...since he is a criminal and all.

[@sketchysketches381]

​@@solsticequeenThat's stupid. He was already in jail for 75 years and would be jailed for life either way. He had nothing to gain by killing her, but she had something to lose. She'd have to face the shame and humiliation of what she did and was clearly already depressed. Lots of depressed people act very normal or even happy before committing suicide

[@woiowoiow190]

Have you been to Japan? And the amount of people that are lonely.? This is a matter of being a irresposible person, and on top of that released a murdered into the world. She made world worse.

[@teresaintexas]

I might be wrong but I took that it was a possibility that she accidentally shot herself from the airbags going off & causing the gun to fire.

[@ericwalstrand3512]

That guy knew exactly how to play her. He knew she was lonely and had nothing else going on in her life. He used her to his advantage

[@mattb541]

She was capable of better. Women have agency too

[@scottandrews947]

@@mattb541 Not according to feminism (when it's convenient for them anyway).

[@letstalkaboutit8254]

Lonely desperate women are capable of doing some crazy sh*t. Even married ones.

[@kodek1234]

Yeah sure poor little babe in the woods.

[@MindbodyMedic]

In UK. And europe there are many many cases of rejected middle aged women shacking up with various non Europeans who either defraud them or use them for residency etc. Often very obese too.

[@florinflorian1849]

-We're on the run, mate, we have to keep a low profile. -That's right, let's buy an orange car.

[@bluecollarlit]

I like how people in the UK call people "mate."

[@BrendaBaBoom]

A little orange car with a 6’9” giant’s seat rolled all the way back to the trunk. 😂

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@bluecollarlit And Australia. And New Zealand.

[@janeyrevanescence12]

I remember watching an interview by a convicted pedophile for my Criminology class and he was asked how he picked his victims. He said that he knew who to target because of how they'd react to the phrase "You have beautiful eyes." Girls who responded "Thank you," had a healthy sense of self (as well as positive male role models in her life who would protect her) and thus were bad targets. Girls who responded "I don't have pretty eyes" were ideal targets because they didn't have a healthy sense of self and a lack of positive male role models to serve as protectors. I think that's what happened here with Vicky White. She was so lonely and craved what any woman wants; to be desired and wanted. Don't get me wrong, she should've immediately reported Casey White. But at the same time? I can understand why.

[@applepie9576]

I agree. She was like a teenage girl who met the man of her dreams online and plotted to run away with him to live happily ever after. This fantasy overtook any rational thought and common sense. Yes, she should not have done it but in a way I can understand why she did

[@acmhfmggru]

You guys are very quick to excuse a grown woman being incredibly irresponsible and criminal because she was pursuing feelings. If the gender was swapped you wouldn't be so dismissive of her depraved lack of ethics and self control.

[@hrdley911]

Very true! Nobody would have any sympathy if a male did this...​@@acmhfmggru

[@leiakiki]

She was an absolute moron for believing words out of the mouth of an inmate. She knew better.

[@Truthbetold630]

​@@acmhfmggruWell said 🔥🔥

[@RodSerling5]

_A man and a woman who resided in two different kinds of prisons. The man incarcerated within a structure of bars, concrete and razor wire; the woman incarcerated within a mentality of depression, loneliness and excessive alcohol consumption. -- Two individuals who spent eleven days on the run, in...The Twilight Zone._

[@TheV00d00D011]

Poetry ❤

[@indianastones6032]

Not all prisons are barbed wire fences with barred windows and doors.

[@Leeisme5630]

“Stone walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a cage….”

[@JavaBott]

Vicky was a grown woman so I don’t think all of the blame should be put on Casey, however it is extremely sad how she threw everything away for an inmate.

[@avppr3451]

"Clothing challenged dancer" I am dead :D ....

[@tortimeese]

I’m glad you revisited this case, Dr. Grande. Vicky White despaired over her life as many do as they struggle with isolation and lonliness. I think her final actions of selling her house for far less than it was worth, believing that the couple could live in the woods, etc. Vicky fell for the scam of romance. I think she deliberatedly ended her life knowing that the romance /fantasy would end. At the very least, reality came roaring into reality when the cops showed up.

[@Casinogirl56]

Not sure how long she thought 96 K was going to last, considering it would have been next to impossible for either of them to get a job. Life on the run is expensive.

[@kina18]

They planned on becoming hunter gatherers living in the wilderness 😂

[@mimax4498]

I think the plan was to live large and off themselves when seemed like they'd get caught.

[@Casinogirl56]

@@kina18 🤣🤣🤣

[@rolo1955]

Out here in sunny California, that 96k would last about one week!

[@tian5639]

The person who bought her house cheaply came out best in this whole sordid affair, around $50k under market price!

[@DavidDeeble]

O.C.E.A.N. is back, baby!

[@ChubbieVickie]

🎉🎉🎉Yeah, it's been a while.😅😂

[@Carene1610]

Watched this on Netflix today. Yes, she was wrong but I couldn’t help feeling sorry for her.

[@2legit2Kwit]

She worked in a jail so sorta lived in a jail

[@kimberleeberry2039]

It really is a sad story 😔

[@kodek1234]

Feel sorry for the lives she put in danger.

[@katjay3125]

Nope....she was wicked

[@AnalysisMedia]

Frustrated wannabe pole dancer settled for a costume of a different kind.

[@topgamer8289]

Can't remember the last time you brought up OCEAN

[@Janimator-OK]

"Extremely low in agreeableness. This is consistent with attempted murder." 😂😂😂😂

[@tod3msn]

I followed the case and it doesn't take Netflix to figure out that the Sheriff's Deputy who literally threw her life and career away to sort out that deep rooted psychological trauma was the motivator for the breakout. Look, sometimes we have something happen and we don't handle it. The Deputy lost her husband and it seemed she went into a tailspin that she never got out of turning her life upside down. Maybe taking a moment to seek mental health assistance when she lost her loved one would have made a difference but we will never know. My gut tells me it would have been a world of difference if the Deputy Sheriff sought treatment for her loss and maybe she'd be here today.

[@BlackSheep_216]

It's crazy what trauma will do to people. It will affect things, that affect things, that affect behavior and thinking in ways one would never realize. This is a sad story and I believe you are totally right.

[@solotraveller888]

Loss of her husband? They were divorced a loooong time ago.

[@deathtoallpoliticans]

@@solotraveller888 her second husband. Did you watch the video?

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@solotraveller888 I think it was her fiance who died prematurely. Still tragic.

[@madeleine9907]

I think she was depressed and didn't care what happened with her She was very unhappy ♥️

[@arkalonalan]

Bingo

[@skiak004]

He's 6'9"- a giant physically but not so much mentally.

[@Janimator-OK]

"Extremely low in agreeableness. This is consistent with attempted murder." Hilarious line and delivery, I laughed

[@Readyplayer8]

NBA should have got him early

[@JamaicaSugar]

I don't understand how their supposed "monitored" phone calls were not discovered the time?! Almost 1,000 calls is tremendous chances of bring intercepted but they never were?

[@scrinjun1]

She had a burner phone that no one at the jail was aware of. After the escape the calls were found because they were all recorded.

[@shimmer8289]

If you listen to wade Wilson's phone calls from prison he has a team of sister wives doing very explicit phone sex with him from 2019 up to and after his DP conviction. It's should not be allowed.

[@aroukapenn]

There should have been an automatic highlight in the system if an inmate speaks X amount of times, especially to the same number. He spoke *EXTENSIVELY* that should have been an *automatic highlight, however she's the head jailer, so she probably could have gone around that.

[@shimmer8289]

@aroukapenn but they spoke freely about being together on outside,and touched on the planning. They need to incorporate AI or something to pick up on certain key words and get these phone calls screened by a human.

[@aroukapenn]

@@shimmer8289 *EXACTLY...GREAT POINT!!!* Now that you say that, I think bigger jails and prisons do exactly that, if at the very least, highlight when there are X amount of calls...*a 1000 calls..GEESH!!!*

[@janetr5929]

I watched this on Netflix yesterday. I didn’t like the way her friends painted her as a victim and that they had a love story like the ex con tried to portray. She stupidly let herself be suckered into helping him escape. She ruined her life and endangered so many people over an unrealistic fantasy. I feel bad for her parents. It also goes to show how you don’t really ever know your coworkers.

[@kingbaboon1145]

The ending was dumb and they romanticized their relationship.

[@sublimeade]

Why would you watch anything on Netflix

[@magdam8290]

Do we even know ourselves? Maybe vicky used to frown at such relationships before she let into Casey manipulation. It might have taken her by suprise

[@alysonkavan1207]

I did not know Vicki was such a heavy drinker either till I watched the Netflix’s documentary

[@nadiastar6264]

Most COs are

[@gijanetexas5770]

@@nadiastar6264Smokers and drinkers, and if they quit they turn to another legal substance. Pills, etc.

[@johnsebring-y1q]

employee of the year 4 times can you imagine what the other employs are like

[@industrialathlete6096]

WOW

[@tpbrcombo]

I’d say they’re a lot less miserable than you are.

[@Woodburnworks]

@@tpbrcombo lol? ok bootlicker

[@Mlpojnnb1234]

Probably brain dead keys

[@dkanizai84]

Been in jail there several times. The other employees are HORRIBLE. She, at least, cared somewhat about the inmates.

[@wildmountainthyme4123]

Such a sad tale. May she rest in peace.

[@hankd18]

Sadly I don't think she's gonna rest where she's going.

[@davepost7675]

"Self inflicted gunshot wound to the back of her head"... How?

[@katjay3125]

He killed her in the car by grabbing her hand with the gun in it

[@justnoted2995]

They were upside-down in the overturned car, I guess

[@makolikeamfshark]

@@justnoted2995 that makes zero sense lol

[@res2788]

@@katjay3125That’s not self inflicted

[@LynnRene]

You have me super interested to the point of obsession. Thanks a lot! 😊 Everywhere I've checked so far says " ... Casey White was charged with *Felony Murder in Connection With Vickys Suicide* ... " It's literally impossible to charge someone with murder if the other person committed suicide! (Unless you knew they were going to do it and didn't tell anyone OR if you helped them and/or egged them on to do it) I'm going back in to see if anyone with a brain works for the major media outlets and can explain it. 🙄

[@Des-Laine]

I literally live in this town. I know several people that knew them both. Seeing the movie was weird.

[@virginalax44]

I never thought I’d hear doctor Grande describe penis pump

[@composedbydyc]

Negative pressure confidence generators 😂😂 superb

[@reneehouser2925]

Right! 😆🤣😂

[@gijanetexas5770]

I like how the big dummy convict didn’t know that wouldn’t be a turn on for her. LOL

[@hatuletoh]

In a way, I respect Vicki for doing something so ridiculously stupid. I think she'd never done anything reckless or stupid in her life, so she decided to go for one giant, reckless, stupid act, and she knew it would be the last thing she ever did. People who do dumb stuff for sex and romance are usually delusional about how things will ultimately work out, but Vicki had seemed to have no illusions that she'd even survive. She didn't go out shooting, she didn't try to hurt anyone, and she managed to pull off her plan without having to traumatize any innocent bystanders along the way. Yes, she threw her life away, but I think she'd have said that she didn’t value it anyway. And maybe 11 days of feeling really alive are worth more than decades of old age, depression, and loneliness. In any case, it was her life to spend how she wanted, and while what she did was illegal, given that she didn't hurt anyone else, I can't condemn her beyond suggesting that she ought to have tried to find a better way to live long before things got so bad that her only way out was romance with a convict and suicide.

[@jenfoster128]

I completely agree!

[@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353]

Agreed.❤

[@mimax4498]

Well said

[@guccidan2026]

Extremely well put man.

[@nicholaslake5937]

I was thinking of something similar with consideration to the older men and women out there that ruin their lives (often a spouse or other family members suffer as well) when they get scammed by online "boyfriends/girlfriends". They'll send their life savings and sell their house to send even more and occasionally will even face legal trouble (money laundering, etc), all while people in their lives and common sense tell them that the person they think is a retired doctor stuck on an oil rig or a 25 yr old model that for some reason likes 55 yr old men they've never met is just a scammer....there is no model coming to marry them, there is no guy on an oil rig just a plane ticket away. Their loneliness and desperation lead to levels of delusion that seem impossible. In this case, while I truly wish she hadn't have reached such a point in her life, at least she went down throwing herself into something that was real. Whatever true feelings were or were not involved, there was a person she could see, feel, and be with. Anyone who has ever had a broken heart or loved someone they couldn't have can probably understand her desperation to grab whatever happiness she could. I am 100% against what she did, but I can understand it.

[@jasonjohnson1690]

I could understand how someone could this everything away like this woman did, but your explanation of what her life and thoughts may been was very empathetic. You made me realize how someone could make the choices this woman did.

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

Your last words “despair, boredom, and hopelessness “ really helped me understand this sad story. Thanks Doc.

[@BluejThompson]

Dr. Grande! My grandmother will be 86 tomorrow and I put you up on the tv and she said “oh I haven’t seen Dr. Grande in a long time!” So I’ll do my best to get you back in her algorithm!

[@Paige0_0]

I’m from Florence, AL. All of this was so wild to see on the news when it was happening.

[@Super-ew1ty]

Your cute.....let's get wild

[@spacegirl226]

Flotown represent! This was the biggest scandal our sleepy little town had in ages. I don't watch the news or keep up with this stuff, but everyone was talking about it. You couldn't get away from it. But there is that little bit of small town pride "Hey, we made the news!"

[@arkalonalan]

I hope you're not lonely like Miss White. But.....if you are, give me a call 😊😮😂

[@Paige0_0]

@@spacegirl226 100%. I used to get so excited to just hear people talk about the state of Alabama as a kid lol it’s still cool to see Florence on the news although it was for a scandal

[@Paige0_0]

@@arkalonalan 😆

[@barnacles62]

Women should NOT be working around male inmates, and vice versa.

[@robertgantry2118]

Women shouldn't be cops or soldiers. I've seen very few women who even made decent mechanics, approximately zero, in fact.

[@EvelynTokamp]

But what if they are attracted to the same sexe? @barnacles62

[@TheGrimhilde]

what about gay people???

[@antoniofernandesmarchetti1097]

By your lógico, no people should work in jail because any people is at risk of doing this.

[@feleciaclemons5074]

​@@TheGrimhildedon't ask don't tell, apparently.

[@ministerofdarkness]

I guess Vicky had never heard of online dating? Then again some women just love convicts.

[@kingbaboon1145]

She was rtrded

[@bonnietoups2446]

The perfect “captive audience” for an insecure romantic partner. The control dynamic cuts both ways.

[@captainamerica6525]

I do not feel sorry for this woman and didn't during the incident. What a waste of a life and career.

[@An_Drea_Calling]

Dr Grande, do you ever even sleep? Take care, good Doc. And thanks for all your videos!

[@larbur9342]

His viewership has been going down dramatically. He has to put out even more videos to keep the cash rolling in. He used to command 500k to a mil views per video, and now he’s lucky to clear 50k.

[@feleciaclemons5074]

I don't make the connection?​@@larbur9342

[@Nick-ue9um]

@@larbur9342I wonder why? I listen to him all the time and there’s no shortage of cases

[@user-vs1tc3kj3z]

Whaaa? How? Maybe they followed him to patreon. He helps me keep the perspective.

[@watermelonwishes4193]

I've often wondered that myself, if he ever sleeps. 🤷‍♀️

[@SNDE7M3]

Dr. Grande! Busting out the OCEAN acronym. That's a shout out to the classics

[@jonmassey5619]

Self inflicted gunshot wound to the back of the head ???? That's just weird

Vicky was not a deep thinker.

[@ea8269]

She destroyed her own life and ended up dead or killed?

[@res2788]

She was so excited that a man took interest in her, it severely compromised her judgment. If she was a dude I’d say that she was thinking with her little head

[@OllieOtterOxen]

She shows signs of fetal alcohol syndrome

[@cyndigooch1162]

​@@res2788That's exactly right, especially if she didn't feel good about herself and would've been susceptible to being manipulated! I'm thinking that she probably had unresolved childhood trauma issues as well, which is usually the case with people who end up in prison, for that matter. 🙁

[@changabriela3412]

You can never "think" yourself out of falling in love!

[@thirdlegstalliano]

I can't wait for Owen Wilson to play her on the silver screen

[@sammyb1651]

🤣

[@feleciaclemons5074]

You know what?????😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lauraarcher1730]

@@feleciaclemons5074🤭

LOL

[@RoseNZieg]

I need to unsee this comment.

[@arribaficationwineho32]

Did she actually commit suicide or was he ready to dispose of her? Does one commit suicide by a shot to the back of ones head?

[@pyry1948]

Do the sex toys qualify for "exceedingly creepy"?

[@An2oine]

Depends on political affiliation.

[@damienhunt4264]

Never.

[@FuhrerNCheifTrump]

@@An2oinerepublican coked filled sex parties. Open secret

[@AnnaBelll.e]

YES.

[@childofcascadia]

@BansheesBanshin Feel bad for your sex life then. Missionary in the dark for you, eh?

[@stevenm5082]

"Posterior Praise" should be in the dating dictionary. .

[@KLM747M]

She planed for two years how to escape with her lover, the inmate.- She deceived their colleagues, commit treason to us, The Citizens.- She, as police officer, vows to serve and protect us.- She went corrupt and had Sx with him in Jail cel.- Then, she got what she wants. Peace.

[@NostalgiaVHS]

I can't even remember the last time Dr. Grande used the OCEAN model.

[@jltrem]

In the immortal words of Mickey & Sylvia, "Love Is Strange".

[@RinpochesRose]

Or The Doors, “People are Strange”.

[@everydaywithsandra]

Yes haha

[@PaganGrace]

I like it when you reference the five factor model (OCEAN) and wondered why you stopped using it.

[@hawksnest7527]

Love the cactus candles

[@nutellabrot9047]

Thank you for the video. You are always the first talking about the most interesting stuff and I always agree with you 😃. For years this is by far my favorite channel. I can always rely on you. You never disappoint 😃❤

[@janetebonanno]

OMG - I just watched this on Netflix last night!

[@ragnardanneskjold7675]

Vicky was exceedingly creepy.

[@ModernDayPilgrim]

I did as well!

[@katjay3125]

Appears to be a dude as well

[@Swansong321]

@ragnardanneskjold7675. I'm starting to get that impression too!shocking

[@5153flash]

I just watched this a few days ago. She fooled the hell outta the sherrif and her co workers. They were in shock. Had they thought out a better escape plan they would have got away. A bright orange getawy car is not great!!! lol

[@nadiastar6264]

The plan was unrealistic from the start. We have technology that would find them before they can get very far.

[@oldegoatee8450]

What a SAD story! Horrifying, true - but sad as well.

[@dashjunkie]

i’m from Lexington, AL & very familiar w this case. I’ve actually spoken to Vicky several times over the years. One thing I wanted to add to your investigation: there was lot of debate, at least locally, whether Vicky killed herself or if Casey killed her? I know it was determined to be self- inflicted but there’s many, including myself that still wonder?! also, a belated Happy Anniversary🎉 & thx for sharing your wife w us! a Happy, Happy B’day 🥳 to her! hope you both had wonderful day together!

[@wendiwonderly1419]

I saw the Netflix documentary. Vicky and her nonsense went on for two years! There were inmates and staff who knew or suspected what was going on. It seems that Vicky made herself invaluable. Everything that went on at the jail went through her. She wasn’t a tyrant boss, she was just a contentious employee. And her coworkers were happy to let her do it. They made excuses for behavior that was out of the ordinary. It’s an extreme example of what can happen when someone ingratiates themselves into every aspect of a work environment and nobody says no

[@JohnGlen502]

And the importance of protocols in these environments.

[@wendiwonderly1419]

I actually worked with a nurse who had some of the same character traits as Vicky. She had an alcoholic husband who couldn’t work and a lazy daughter who wouldn’t work. She worked a ton of overtime to support these two drones. Of course she nursing home was happy to fill shifts and she soon began to feel invaluable. Unfortunately she brought all her co dependent issues to work with her. She needed to be needed. She made decisions that weren’t hers to make and gave orders to other staff that weren’t hers so give. And she would falsely accuse other staff of abusing patients The boss felt sorry for her because she had a pathetic life. The boss wouldn’t exactly side with her but she would smooth things over. Soon this nurse thought the nursing home needed her more than she needed them. Inevitably when the boss finally put her in her place it was brutal and they were never friends again. Both the boss and this nurse are dead now unfortunately. I’m not saying this nurse would go as far as Vicky. I certainly hope not but I saw some character traits that made supervising the nursing home challenging

[@wendiwonderly1419]

I did temp work in 3 different prisons. The fact that I chose a full time job in this nursing home with this difficult nurse tells you all you need to know about my prison experience

[@wendiwonderly1419]

By far the nastiest and most corrupt prison was in Easton PA. Even the chaplain was on the take. When I play guitar on that great outlaw anthem ain’t living long like this I always substitute Easton for Houston

[@raisamoola2090]

Hi Dr G, sending love and gratitude for the upload from South Africa!

[@B-I-G-N-A-S-T-Y]

Same .

[@CatharinePizzarello]

Thank you! I think they were both headed for the same place in different ways.

[@LúciaKitten]

Thank you for the video, Dr. Grande!

[@autumn.melody1715]

Dumb and Dumber

[@woiowoiow190]

Stupid is as stupid does...

[@DanteGabrielle]

After watching the documentary I wonder who was playing who. I agree though she seemed weary and in despair and wanted excitement no matter the price.

[@DavidPawson-d7h]

Reserved spot to be edited later.

[@MEL2theJ]

😄 I've never seen a comment like this one

[@lambchopbo2022]

😂😂

[@valentinemelly2138]

@10:22 LMAO not a clothing challenged dancer… I didn’t get that until later on! Dr Todd is hilarious!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Wistful77]

People who give in to their sxul desires often commit crazy crimes. Lori and Chad for example. Thank you for giving us some of the details of their "relationship". You're the best!

[@bluegypsydoll]

Seems like and impulse problem

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

Well, nothing wrong with giving in to such desires as long as it is with the right person.

[@beautifulsunset4071]

I have missed OCEAN! Thank you for bringing it back, Dr G. 😁

[@RobbieJay-m7n]

Docs on a roll today!!

[@JugglingG]

I love the complimentary colours chosen for the lighting and attire of late. Great set up Dr Grande 💜

[@robinmaynard1640]

I like sex. but I can't fathom it being important enough to go to these lengths to get it.

[@markallen2984]

It's not sex... it's approval. For a woman, it is far easier to get sex than approval

[@kingbaboon1145]

It wasn't just about sex. She wanted 'love'.

[@charliechurch5004]

Sorry but at this women's age it shouldn't have been that important 😂😂😂

[@cadillacdeville5828]

All things considered... Vicky has to take a accountability for what she contributed to voluntarily, despite her circumstances of what she been through.

[@kingbaboon1145]

She's dead

[@lornaginetteharrison7168]

There are a lot of commenters seemingly absolving Vicky of all wrongdoing, placing complete responsibility on Casey. However manipulative Casey was, Vicky chose to break the law and put countless innocent people’s lives at risk. I don’t see any redeeming qualities in Vicky’s deliberate, premeditated actions that negates her wilful criminality.

[@veronikaschafersopran4990]

„Clothing challenged dancer“ 🤭

[@jennyng2994]

I had to replay that to clarify that was what was actually said!

[@donalynette]

Thank you for your kind & sympathetic evaluation of her. I think her situation, fits the profile of many single women, desperate, placing all hopes in a man, & believing we must prove to them our undying love.

[@lisetteeliseparis7070]

People loved her, they just had no idea how lonely she was. She found that horrible criminal exciting. RIP Vicky. (Thank you Dr. Grande!)

[@kayasper6081]

Your analyze and opinion is this case, is beautiful and very humane👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@betterthinktwice9944]

I watched the doc. As the police close in, Vicki says we should run (not "shoot me!")! At the last minute of the takedown, we hear Vicki say "Casey!" & then a gunshot. And, they say the shot was to the back of her head? How can that be suicide? Did Casey, knowing the relationship would be over, take Vicki's life?

[@barbarapaige4587]

I agree - I had the same thought - he killed her; it's hard to shot yourself in the back of the head. How many people commit suicide this way? She knew where to shoot; she knew how to use a gun.

[@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353]

​@barbarapaige4587 he would of had gun residue??

[@eva1480]

He was calm and composed not panicking Poor vucki safe ger life fast In my opinion he did

[@barbarapaige4587]

@@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353 I wonder if they tested him, or just didn't bother because he was already going to jail. If they didn't, it would have been a disservice to her family who deserved to know the truth

[@alysonkavan1207]

It still blows my mind that they didn’t run further! Vicki was so smart planning all of this they should have crossed the damn boarder! Or go to Cali or Washington or Colorado like girllyyy what were u thinking??!?

[@mimax4498]

Dude was a giant. Would've been hard to stay hidden long, so they hid in the motel, fulfilled the fantasy and was ready to die.

[@bradweir3085]

Another victim of the loneliness epidemic.

[@sammyb1651]

No. You're naive to think that. More a case of Dr Grande running cover for her poor character by painting a naive, flowery portrait of her. "She had always put others first" etc etc. How often do you hear this garbage when women are discussed? I mean she was married previously and left her husband after a couple of years so she clearly wasn't putting anyone ahead of herself there. And she wanted to be a stripper but had always been "unlucky in love". I mean; great marriage material right there. Any man would be lucky to have her! Time for lazy, selfish women to be called out in the same way we call men out.

[@JoeAdler-tr7dc]

I guess this is proof that women do prefer tall men this guy was like 6 ft 8 in tall😢

[@robgau2501]

He unlocked her inner exotic dancer. When I woke up this morning, I didn't expect to hear that. This sounds like a hillbilly romance.

[@rjsimpkins2911]

There's a lot of freaks out in the dating world. He knew how to bring her freaky deaky out.

[@charliechurch5004]

😂😂😂

[@MEL2theJ]

Thank you again Dr. Grande 🙏 Another excellent analysis

[@MJFish]

YES the five factor model OCEAN is back!!!

[@imtired6104]

"Negative pressure confidence generator" made my week! Thank you Dr. Grande!

[@miserychannel69]

7:05 Self inflicted shot - to the back of the head?

[@wmpx34]

It was a really long range rifle and the bullet traveled around the world and came back

She was flexible apparently.

[@janeyrevanescence12]

She was a closet contortionist?

[@gwendolenyoung4198]

💀💀💀

[@along5925]

Neat trick

[@dakotadakotawoooo]

what a great story. i enjoyed your analysis and the documentary about this case. i think because vicky was so well respected by everyone - co-workers and inmates.. and was seasoned and professional... even a boss in her field... it just took everyone by surprise. i wish it did not end so sadly.

[@Jadeserphant]

Ummmmm. How does one self inflict a gunshot wound to the *back* of one’s on head? Asking for a friend.

[@feleciaclemons5074]

Kind of easy, actually... Cant you reach the back of your head?? At least the side of your head,but closer to the back?? Directly /in the middle ,though,??? You are right . That's a" nope"😮

[@alysonkavan1207]

I mean lol they legit were like crashing the car or just crashed when she shot herself…so Im assuming it wasn’t lined up perfectly like you would think. But in the Netflix’s documentary they didn’t say it was the back of her head.

[@Jadeserphant]

@@alysonkavan1207 Ok, I can see that happening if they were crashing. I’ve seen KZbin coverage of this case but I haven’t had the time to watch the Netflix show yet.

[@HisMajestytheKing47]

Dr. Grande, I love how you're weaving in the psychological / personality analysis in your latest videos. Definitely differentiates your content.

[@michelleMc2024]

She must have been vey lonely. I hope she at least enjoyed her 11 days.

[@bluegypsydoll]

She released a murderer , put others in danger and u think u hope she enjoyed herself? Strange

[@mrazik131]

@@bluegypsydoll you have a good point but i feel sorry for her and understand the enjoyed comment.

[@rodneylove8027]

This was a very enlightening and somber analysis. Thank you.

[@saltrock9642]

See, pay someone a little attention and look at what happens. Eyes forward.

[@bold810]

You put in your time, Dr. Grande. Just remember when your time comes up, then fly, brother. Fly 😊

[@ea8269]

She threw away her entire life for a killer and ended up dead or may be killed by the inmate.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Was that ever resolved? Cleared up?

[@tronrobojim6526]

Great points at the very end Doc!

[@maryrichardson6029]

Always interesting Thank you❤

[@CarlosLopez-nl1rp]

It's been so long since we heard about OCEAN. Glad to see Dr. Grande didn't forget it.

[@morrismclean3584]

The condition, named, Hybristophilia, or Bonny and Clyde syndrome, is so much more prevalent than generally recognised.

[@missbee1968]

Great overview! So very sad, this woman literally threw her life away.

[@TwoCardinals]

She could have had a comfortable, respectable retirement. She could have dated, made more friends, and traveled. But she chose to let a violent monster back out on the streets for what? A few days of "excitement?" Even if they didn't get caught, did she really believe Casey would be content living alone with an older woman, isolated in some trailer off the grid for the rest of their lives? Probably within a week he would have made sure the fairly tale ended because that's what men like him do...and that's if he didn't kill her once her money ran out or the first time she wanted him to do the dishes. She ended her life for nothing.

[@sarahjaye4117]

Maybe she wanted it to end

[@yando2023]

Good wisdom

[@TwoCardinals]

@@sarahjaye4117 Maybe. But if that’s your goal don’t put other people in danger. And don’t waste a ton of resources by triggering a nationwide manhunt.