Teenager Who Pursued Undesirable Friend is Murdered in Remote Area

Teenager Who Pursued Undesirable Friend is Murdered in Remote Area | Kelly Bullwinkle Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Күн бұрын

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@StellaChristelle Жыл бұрын

As my grandmother always said - Better off alone than badly accompanied.

@In_swedish_the_jam_means_sylt 28 күн бұрын

well said! im using this one

@ntlkrr Жыл бұрын

It makes me so sad when teenagers respond to bad friends with neediness. I wish she had a stronger self esteem.

@YankeeBoy512 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps it’s not your intention, but your comment sounds a lot like victim blaming. Of course she was needy, as many teenagers are. Her parents should’ve done a better job of instilling self-esteem in her, if you want to blame anyone other than the actual criminals.

@Mlpgirl168 Жыл бұрын

@ntlkrr it is VERY sad, indeed. 😢

@mahboopful Жыл бұрын

Hard to navigate this time of life.

@inezaa Жыл бұрын

same

@katc2040 Жыл бұрын

No need to victim blame when the people who killed her had the lowest self esteem of all

@rullvox5912 Жыл бұрын

I don't think they should ever be released either, they are a menace to society.

@erikamccarthy1457 Жыл бұрын

💯 If anything, he deserved an equal amount of time (not less). Jail sentence should of been life without parole for both, definitely premeditated murder. Fact, beyond doubt….

@CashCowz962 Жыл бұрын

Indeed...that poor girl...never ever seek the company of folks that don't like you...that's the first thing you must pick up when you hang out with people ......

@jodybrown4956 Жыл бұрын

Re introduce ball and chain work all the ungrateful selfish entitlement out of this kind of subhumanoid .

@Moodboard39 6 ай бұрын

But but but , the laws caters to criminal lol they love giving lighter sentences . I wonder (depend on that state ) if they actually giving them right sentences from the penal code ....

@PyrPupMom Жыл бұрын

If someone makes it clear that they don't want you around, leave them.

@hopeausbyn1734 Ай бұрын

💯

@charlyshay1013 Жыл бұрын

You nailed Damien's "simple but effective" tactic of being really nice to Kelley and then turning right around and being really mean to her as a way of keeping her on the hook. Unfortunately, that tactic is all powerful on a person with low self esteem. Very sad.

@Rawnervzz Жыл бұрын

Yes I wish I could walk into the memory and tell them that

@dougankrum3328 Жыл бұрын

I was in High School in the early 1960's...I guess in a way it was a good thing for me that I really, really liked to read....I went right to the nearby library after school and read for a couple hours...went home for dinner, then read until bedtime...my parents had been teachers at one time so we had a whole library of books at home...I never missed being involved in a 'group'....and outside of the reading thing...I did go to the YMCA...mostly for the Olympic sized pool, as I liked swimming too...and YMCA showed occasional free movies...

@jtzoltan Жыл бұрын

@@dougankrum3328how do you encourage a kid to enjoy reading to the level you did?

@Rawnervzz Жыл бұрын

@@dougankrum3328 good for you, I believe my life would be different mostly for the better if I had no social life in highschool

@Heywood.Jablome Жыл бұрын

Taking notes on Damien's Pickup Method....

@rejaneoliveira5019 Жыл бұрын

“The pain of being lonely is less severe than the pain of being with a antisocial partner.” - that’s spot on! Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤

@MeloBurgers Жыл бұрын

OMFG my exact problem!! i’m truly hoping to overcome this t e r r i b l e issue!!

@SandAngels73 Жыл бұрын

So true! That's why I never remarried after my divorce 21 years ago. Im just not willing to take that kind of chance again.

@KoolT Жыл бұрын

No, it is SO MUCH BETTER to be alone than with an abuser. This girl didn't love herself enough. Never be a DOORMAT.

@JaxonSmithers Жыл бұрын

That's true, I've been lonely for 12 years and it's still a lot better than being with a psychopath, sociopath, or narcissist.

@KoolT Жыл бұрын

Love yourself enough to never accept abuse.

@mwartchow Жыл бұрын

I understand how a lonely person can be fooled by a fake friendship. I was bullied in elementary school, so when two girls appeared to want to be friends with me, I ignored their mean comments and became the blunt of their jokes. Thankfully, it did end when I went to a different middle school.

@matthewtoxic6691 9 ай бұрын

As someone who knew all three of them, Kelly, Damien and Kinzie, I can tell you Damien and Kinzie are text book sociopaths, from my experiences with them before and after Kelly’s murder when we were all helping search for her.

@hopeausbyn1734 Ай бұрын

🤔 Hmmm, shows up early in child development.

@valeriemacphail9180 Жыл бұрын

The root of all "pranks' is malicious intent. Humour for one, humiliation for the other.

@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын

You nailed it, how are you doing today

@BubbyBold Жыл бұрын

There do exist funny and wholssome pranks. A good prank is when everyone involved laugh

@strawberrysubmarines Жыл бұрын

@@rolandscoth8520man you’re just the rizzard of oz in these comments

@gabriellejohnson7324 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@cyruscherry35 Жыл бұрын

I think the excuse of its just a joke is a way to gaslight the victim..you can literally kill a person and claim it was just a joke

@ForAncientKingAndElvishLord Жыл бұрын

As an introverted lonely person I can confirm that sometimes you can be vulnerable and it can get dangerous

@PlanesKiwi Жыл бұрын

It's a chilling thought that there's the possibility that those two killers may be released to roam about freely among us. They are still young & physically able enough to cause death and destruction.

@sdsurfgirl60 Жыл бұрын

This is a parents worst nightmare. 😢 I agree with Dr. Grande that they should never be released.

@elizabethhamm5320 Жыл бұрын

Poor Kelly. She was a naive, vulnerable teenager who didn’t want to be isolated. Too bad that she didn’t have enough pro social relationships with her peers to protect her. Thanks again for another great analysis Dr. Grande

@jameshudkins2210 Жыл бұрын

Some bad people look for those who are vulnerable for some reason. They can be easier to Gaslight, Lead On or whatever unfair and deceitful ill behavior one has in mind.

@hollydaugherty2620 Жыл бұрын

It’s not the job of teenagers to “protect” other teenagers.

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

[QUOTE] The poster is correct. Female are inherently narcissitic in their neuro-psychology. This is for evolutionary reasons. Like is attracted to like; as they see themselves in each other. And like narcissits, they are disgusted by humans with excessive humanity and care little for them (the extent they do is shallow as any truthful woman will attest to and 'feel’). ENFJ-females among many other narcissist-craving and loving “feelers" will often lose their virginity to narcissits. This is essentially a 'life-cycle’ for most females. How the narcissits makes the mentally undeveloped and narcissist woman feel is what draws and compels her mind, heart and 'clit’ to it. Consider your highschool experience for example; such occasions are cliche-i.e. essentially a 'life-cycle’ for females who often narcissitically believe their clit to be irresistible. Later in life, after “swallowing" and absorbing the narcissists/cluster-B sexual essence and narcissitic abuse… Only 'then' are these narcissitic little girl finally ready to “lower" and belittle themselves for a “good-man" (human with excessive humanity as an instinct). Most human female's are inherently wilful, narcissistic, hypersexual girls at their core essence. Get over yourselves! Too many females have a similar experience, i.e. spending their younger, beautiful years [secretly] having sex with narcissists for the emotional 'tingles’, before 'settling’ down for the “good man" (who they 'consistently’, and narcissitically perceive to be “lesser" in sexual attractiveness, compared to they multiple narcissit/cluster-B EX). This is the life-cycle of most women, especially the more “attractive" ones. Consider your life experiences, it is one such example of countless many. And it persists throughout human history, and certainly will into the future. Female's crave emotional-stimulus, because like narcissits, so many of them feel “empty" on the inside, and they instinctively look to a narcissist to 'fill’ them up with their sexual energy. Think about it…

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

@@Adam2-2 I hate your stupidity. 🤦‍♂️💢 It would be funny if you weren't getting honest. ~ Willing lamb's to the slaughter. (It's almost as if the nature of their thoughts is purposely designed to lead them to the slaughter house, smh).

@TheFakeyCakeMaker Жыл бұрын

Proving the old adage true "treat them mean keep them keen"

@panpan-vz3om Жыл бұрын

'the winner would be with Damien, this is a battle to see who could demonstrate the lowest standards ' :)

@barbaramiller2956 Жыл бұрын

"Loneliness is a powerful and sometimes hazardous motivator." This needs to be said loud and often--to keep people out of destructive relationships.

@shellyharry8189 Жыл бұрын

Damien and Kinsey should never be released. They're dangerous.

@jackiegrice714 Жыл бұрын

The whole concept of having a soulmate has gotten a lot of people in trouble. Kelly was too inexperienced to see the danger she was in. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.

@tessaducek5601 Жыл бұрын

The concept of soulmate has completely lost its meaning since used in the 60s. But I guess everything has.

@KoopaBOOEY Жыл бұрын

What puts me in disbelief is that, what would be the probability that you would find a soulmate in a high school? That’s profoundly naive to think you will find someone special in a high school, who gets you, in a world where there were 7 billion people existing a that time. If Kelly wasn’t so naive to think high school is the best that the world can offer in a soulmate, she would still be alive and finding better people to have a relationship with. But I don’t think a soulmate exists. I think a more compatible mate would have been out there if she looked deeper and realized Damien is just one out of many outcasts who like Marilyn Manson and Natural Born Killers and all that early 00’s nonsense

@peterolbrisch8970 Жыл бұрын

The whole concept of soulmates is creepy and clingy, as well as mathematically improbable.

@peterolbrisch8970 Жыл бұрын

@@tessaducek5601The concept of soulmates is creepy and clingy and mathematically improbable.

@peterolbrisch8970 Жыл бұрын

@@KoopaBOOEYThe concept of soulmates is creepy and clingy and mathematically improbable.

@Toughmittens Жыл бұрын

I was in the same situation that Kelly was in. I wanted to be loved by a group of antisocial people. One day, the sort of leader of the group took us to a hiking trail in the middle of the night and acted as if he was going to kill me with a pick axe while the others laughed at my hysterical screaming. I had snuck out of my room without anyone knowing and he pointed out that he could kill all of us and no one would know because we were all teenagers that had snuck out of our homes and he was an adult that didn’t go to school with us. That man was arrested for attempted murder years later and now I don’t know where he is. I was in love with him and so were the other girls in the group. He negged me just like the guy in this story. I’m surprised by how similar all of this is to what i went through. This even happened so close to where I lived and around the same time. I think that the alternative culture that was popular during that time made it hard to differentiate between the people who were just doing it to be cool and the people who were actually mentally unwell and dangerous.

@redemptionhappens7725 Жыл бұрын

Yes. The grunge and goth teen cultures were unbelievably toxic and hid a lot of antisocial personalities.

@AFBudgets Жыл бұрын

Thank goodness you got out of that TO many kids die because they sneak out:(

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

You're annoying. You deserve to be with anti-social people.

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

Utterly brain-dead, and fit only for the humanoid-cattle farm. Smh. 🤦‍♂️

@sandhanitizer15 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Grande, this is why i love your channel. You can be telling a story, completely serious, and fit in a line like "at least he didn't have to finish watching The Matrix Revolutions" without changing tone or facial expression lol.

@joker6solitaire 9 ай бұрын

I guffawed at that one! There's a delightful webcomic called "xkcd," and the author made a comic about the Matrix trilogy: Three people are finishing watching the first Matrix movie at home. One person says, "Let's watch the next one!" And the other two say something like, "Man, what a shame they never made any sequels." The first person says, "But they did--" "--YES, it's TOO BAD they didn't make sequels," the other two conclude emphatically.

@SocialExperiment232 Ай бұрын

I choked on my tea on that one 😂😂😂😂 what a poop of a movie.

@jow.6605 Жыл бұрын

Two psychopaths who should never be released.

@tasha3757 Жыл бұрын

6:35 "Because she was funny when she was scared" 😠 Anyone would be _scared_ with a gun pointed at them, even including herself. Despicable!

@DreamingInTechnicolor Жыл бұрын

It’s a sad state of affairs when being young and naïve, can easily lead to a death sentence.

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

It actually isn't. It saves the lives of the virtuous, intelligent, and high-sentient people. The "defects" (especially when they can help it; and I was referring to the willfully R-tarded) must never be prioritized over the healthy, healthy and productive people who care about society, and do not live a life solely dedicated to "avoiding feeling upset". She got the "tingles" she sought after and badly wanted. If those were decent/"good people" who momentarily were being "mean" to her-she would've left, asap! Zero interest. Zero patience. Somehow, these sorts of homunculus (low-sentient "feelers") always find a way to search for cluster-b, and they usually have sex with them at some point, while pretending to be "searching for themselves", or doing their"healing", or "trying to figure out their feelings about somebody or a situation." She got what she deserved. It help to keep the streets clean of homunculus (lumps of meat who live only to crave emotional stimulation... But only from dark-triad/bad-boys, obviously).

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

The poster is correct. Female are inherently narcissitic in their neuro-psychology. This is for evolutionary reasons. Like is attracted to like; as they see themselves in each other. And like narcissits, they are disgusted by humans with excessive humanity and care little for them (the extent they do is shallow as any truthful woman will attest to and 'feel’). ExFJ-females among many other narcissist-craving and loving “feelers" will often lose their virginity to narcissits. This essentially a 'life-cycle’ for most females. How the narcissits makes the mentally undeveloped and narcissist woman feel is what draws and compels her mind, heart and 'clit’ to it. Consider your highschool experience for example; such occasions are cliche-i.e. essentially a 'life-cycle’ for females who often narcissitically believe their clit to be irresistible. Later in life, after “swallowing" and absorbing the narcissists/cluster-B sexual essence and narcissitic abuse… Only them are these narcissitic little girl finally ready to “lower" and belittle themselves for a “good-man" (human with excessive humanity as an instinct). Most human female's are inherently wilful, narcissistic, hypersexual girls at their core essence. Get over yourselves! Too many females have a similar experience, i.e. spending their younger, beautiful years [secretly] having sex with narcissists for the emotional 'tingles’, before 'settling’ down for the “good man" (who they 'consistently’, and narcissitically perceive to be “lesser" in sexual attractiveness, compared to they multiple narcissit/cluster-B EX). This is the life-cycle of most women, especially the more “attractive" ones. Consider your life experiences, it is one such example of countless many. And it persists throughout human history, and certainly will into the future. Female's crave emotional-stimulus, because like narcissits, so many of them feel “empty" on the inside, and they instinctively look to a narcissist to 'fill’ them up with their sexual energy. Think about it…

@beckycantrell5547 Жыл бұрын

@@Human_01 what the heck is wrong with you!

@overzealouseuthanasiast9731 Жыл бұрын

@@Human_01 Sounds a lot more like _you're_ one of the "defects" dirtying up society, trying to deflect your failings and insecurity onto those who don't have the means to defend themselves. I bet your computer hard drive already has a vivid cornucopia of incriminating material for future detectives to discover too.

@MaxCady7.62 Жыл бұрын

@@Human_01ou sound like you have never even touched a girl and youre mad about it.

@NetSunJin Жыл бұрын

Glad Kinsey’s parents weren’t delusional and could see through her bs and felt she needed to be put away . I agree. They should never be released from prison.

@donprice9050 Жыл бұрын

Do they give courses in prison like, "How to appear remorseful" and "How to say you have changed and found God"? Or the favourite, "How to say what juries and parole boards want to hear"

@RoseNZieg Жыл бұрын

yes those are greatest things to learn in prison.

@jacks1bonnielass Жыл бұрын

@@RoseNZieg 🤣

@reingp Жыл бұрын

and apparently these parole boards are gullible too. Manipulated so easily while putting the rest of society in danger

@jenanne31 Жыл бұрын

Good one! 🤣

@jtzoltan Жыл бұрын

@@reingph man, there was a case here in Canada with a man serving life in prison with the possibility of parole after 15 years for murdering his partner extremely violently. He was evaluated and classified as a high risk of reoffending, but a few years later was reclassified as moderate risk. The prison board parole board at the 15 year mark approved him to parole at a halfway house where he'd have a day pass, which he soon used to arrange a meetup with a $ex worker that he then proceeded to murder in a similar manner he did his girlfriend if I recall correctly. The $ex worker's name was Marylene Levesque. It's disturbing what they're doing to criminal justice under the misguided belief that the problem is primarily the criminal justice system and society, and that the offenders themselves bear little responsibility for who they are... I'd say it's even worse in the US where in big cities repeat offenders will commit murder, be caught and released with little to no bail (due to "bail is discrimination" policies) just to then commit another murder, robbery, etc. Long sentences for people committing crimes that directly harm themselves at most like what they used to do for possession of small amounts of drugs for personal use, that's evidently more destructive than it is anything like an effective deterrent, but long prison sentences for people who commit repeat violent offenses or other serious crimes do indeed work to at least keep those people off the streets. Mind you, it needs a high degree of certainty to try to protect the wrongly accused. We just ought to apply similarly punitive measures to white collar criminals as well like the Bernie Maydoffs and such.

@tmajcan94 Жыл бұрын

With a name like Damien, you know it's a bad "Omen". 👿 Well done again Dr. Grande. A great way to end the weekend.

@redemptionhappens7725 Жыл бұрын

I hate that name and if I was cursed with it I’d change it the second I reached 18.

@redemptionhappens7725 Жыл бұрын

@@caddieohm7059Us oldies associate it with one of the most disturbing movies and evil characters of all time.

@jessicaellina3878 8 ай бұрын

Yes..do people really still give their boys that name?? It is a big no no in the UK..as well as Myra ( Hindley) the infamous child serial killer, along with her boyfriend Ian Brady.

@merlinsteele6840 5 ай бұрын

Yep only idiots give their kids that name.

@AndriaBieberDesigns Жыл бұрын

Why are these people up for parole. They’ll just get out to the public and hurt somebody else.

@pantherinparadise9686 Жыл бұрын

Have you not noticed our government officials?

@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын

They are the most corrupted people in the world, how are you today?

@theshadylady1982 Жыл бұрын

Ya... that's why they do it. That's what they want.

@CommercialForest Жыл бұрын

July 2023 update…Damien granted parole

@mistrjt9213 Жыл бұрын

Ungrateful ass kids are so damn stupid these days. They’re beginning to enter the workforce now. 🤦🏻‍♀️

@Job.Well.Done_01 Жыл бұрын

I had a friend who tried to k i l l me under the ‘soul tie’ friendship claim. When I figured things out and broke the plot, My old ‘friend’ got extremely angry. There were all kinds of clues. All kinds of ways my old friend tried to lure me into my own death. I flanked the plan and caught my friend. There is lots of evidence and plenty of terror involved in the discovery. My advice: Never allow yourself to be such a nice person that you are blind and naive to how malicious people are. We all have malice within our abilities as humans but some people choose evil over good.

@Angie_bae 7 ай бұрын

I was drugged and beat up. Chelsea MA police didn’t do anything!

@HexagonFL Жыл бұрын

Every time you say “probably because of the murder part,” I laugh 👍🤣

@laurastrobel718 Жыл бұрын

Agreed Dr G. Those 2 sociopaths should never see the light of day. Sad Kellys' lack of self esteem led to making an ultimately fatal decision in selecting peers and hopefully a romantic partner. RIP Kelly 💓💐🙏🕊️🌈

@farmcat3198 Жыл бұрын

The pain of being lonely is less than the pain of being with an anti-social partner. This is a lesson learned too late for many.

@jenniferfoote5442 Жыл бұрын

When i was a teen in the 80s i hung with the metalheads and punk rockers..we were definitely the outcasts and antisocial to a degree but never not once did we consider killing eachother..in fact it made us love eachother more being 'different'

@TNKabouter Жыл бұрын

When i was a teen in the 70s i hung out with outcasts and druggies but no one killed anyone, i had a bad taste and clingyness too, not much harm came from that except from the parents: how do you dare do that to us!!

@ScoutsPatterson Жыл бұрын

Not a fan of diagnosing, much more into hearing speculations about situations like it though. Thanks Doc!

@jeromeburdine966 Жыл бұрын

It never ceases to amaze me how people (even grown adults) are always drawn to those who don't want them as friends, who mistreat them, who ignore them, etc. and yet completely ignore those who would just love to be good, caring friends to them. See it all the time!!

@ericoffutt9499 2 ай бұрын

the matrix revolutions joke is one of grande's better in the thousands of videos i've watched, i usually get a chuckle from his puns but that one was 10/10

@BloodylocksBathory Жыл бұрын

This crime reminds me of a film from 1969 called Last Summer, starring Barbara Hershey and Bruce Davison. It involves a group of friends who over time seem to enable cruelty in each other, and turn their attention towards a shy girl who longs for acceptance and companionship. It too ends very badly.

@plasticweapon Жыл бұрын

1969.

@BloodylocksBathory Жыл бұрын

@@plasticweapon thanks for catching that

@robinhaupt9119 Жыл бұрын

I always appreciate your insight and analysis of those who commit crimes, thank you.

@brookiegremlin6660 Жыл бұрын

countless murder confessions have started thusly: "okay, so our plan was just to scare her..."

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

And they achieved it and more! 😂🎉

@MrJuvefrank Жыл бұрын

Christian Brando was no exception to the rule.

@LetItBeSummer-1 Жыл бұрын

RIP Kelly. Sorry for all who loved her. 💕 This is painful…no words

@carpenanne Жыл бұрын

You give insightful analysis. I particularly value your comments about loneliness… it can be so hazardous if we don’t unpack it and reframe it as a gift and opportunity to get to know yourself as your own best friend. Thanks.

@Jeanne90275 Жыл бұрын

Both should have gotten LWOP. This was obviously premeditated first degree murder.

@CG-MP Жыл бұрын

this story reminds me of a childhood friend and the types of people she hung around in high school, to where she wasn't the crazy creepy one, but for some unfathomable reason she desperately craved attention from those types.

@BigZebraCom Жыл бұрын

Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening in an adventure with Moose without Squirrel like this.

@chesterfinecat7588 Жыл бұрын

Her life was Rocky.

@BigZebraCom Жыл бұрын

@@chesterfinecat7588 Well done!

@AnnaBelll.e Жыл бұрын

I laughed so hard I scared my dog

@bryanwalthall5483 Жыл бұрын

@@chesterfinecat7588That deserves an Angry Upvote.

@nhmooytis7058 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@catlady9012 Жыл бұрын

Some people are evil. Too bad Kelly had such low self esteem that she could not see this. Personally I would rather be alone than with people like those monsters.

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

She is evil as well. If she wasn't, she wouldn't have found her company so appealing (and to the extent that she died for it, and we even willing to put up with the abuse and seemingly subtle threats). She didn't use her brain. She was only emotionally hungry for some "tingles".

@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын

You are absolutely correct it’s better to be alone and happy than been with people who are not ready to help you combat any you are facing. How are you doing?

@paranoidasteroid3439 Жыл бұрын

What in the victim blaming hell is going on in these replies. So a lonely and probably insecure teenage girl deserved to be killed because she wanted to be a part of something, even it was the wrong crowd? Please remember these people were the only ones she thought that “noticed and accepted” her. Even though their behaviour shifted and they treated her terrible afterwards; she probably didn’t want to “lose” these people, thinking this is her only chance at being a part of something. You don’t know how it feels being the only person without a partner during a group project, or how looking at your spare page in the yearbook hurts. Especially as a teenager.

@wicklunda Жыл бұрын

I find your approach so helpful. I am learning to use your techniques in my job.

@jkjives1786 Жыл бұрын

So you don't diagnose situations, you only speculate about what could be happening? 😅

@Fireproofwitchnz Жыл бұрын

Dr Grande coming in hard with the roasts 😂 "Competing for low standards"

@CommercialForest Жыл бұрын

This happened a few towns over, before social media was big. It didn’t get much publicity, but glad it was solved. Rip

@jdd3786 Жыл бұрын

It didn't get much publicity because mainstream media protect their own.

@eddenoy321 Жыл бұрын

@@jdd3786 So mainstream media is all anti-social teens ? Learn to think before you post.

@jessicaannepaskow92 Жыл бұрын

I lived in Redlands, California from 1999 to 2020 and have never heard of this case. Thanks Dr. Grande for sharing it with us!

@KoolT Жыл бұрын

Why some arrogant jerk could think it is okay to kill another person is so sad. Poor girl.

@jane.c.c Жыл бұрын

They killed for no reason, just for kicks, so they don't deserve to ever get out of prison

@dieselandlevimygoofyhuskie9420 Жыл бұрын

I love your work Dr Grande cheers from Australia 🇦🇺👍💕

@sharonwilfong503 Жыл бұрын

Excellent commentary. Your analysis of these two demented people is spot on.

@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын

So true he is best at his work, how are you doing today?

@roxannespahr2804 Жыл бұрын

Woke up just to watch this wonderful person named Dr. Grande analyze another crazy situation...when you say "now moving onto my analysis" or "just a theory, my opinion" i sit up taller and pay full attention 😂 I love your analysis on everything you cover. Very smart and def know what you're talking about. Thank you for being here and I hope you had an explosive holiday weekend...Happy independence day!! ❤️

@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын

Happy Independence Day, how are you doing?

@HexagonFL Жыл бұрын

Dr. Grande is the best!

@shakeworldwide2031 Жыл бұрын

she was sweet met her through my friend Adam, who was also a Crafton Hills College student….. rest in peace, the both of them

@megatherion2695 Жыл бұрын

Just what I needed. Thanks, Doc!

@Monka83 Жыл бұрын

😢 so sad.. poor Kelly, so naive. I hope her soul now resta in peace.

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

Oh, it is (count on it)! 🤣 -Not much of a choice.-

@MartineH1 Жыл бұрын

Evil people can demonstrate what they are already at young age. Our job as parents is to teach our children how they can protect themselves against this kind of people. Some evil people can hide their evil intentions but some are proud to show everybody what they are. Teach your kids that good people around them bring good things. Bad people are not to trust or to have around.

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

............................. "Evil" is the antithesis to the virtue: 'humanity'. Humanity is the characteristic that defines the human spirit. Humanity is symbiosis across humans and society. 'Humanity' exceeds 'social-darwinism'. ............................. NEURO-PERSONALITY ............................. "SENSORY-FEELERS" ARE LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR SPREADING DISINFORMATION AND HATE TOWARDS ENTJ/INTJ (AGAINST "THINKERS" IN GENERAL)-BOTH IRL AND ON THE INTERNET; DESPITE THOSE NEURO-PERSONALITY TYPES BEING A BLESSING TO SOCIETY AND ALL OF MANKIND! THEY DESERVE BETTER! 😤 'ESFJ', 'ESFP', ISFP and ISFJ are a pathogen to humanity, and 'then' Cluster-B (depending on they neuro-personality). THEIR "FEELINGS 'IS' THEIR REALITY", THEY ALSO HAVE A MALICIOUS-MIND BY DEFAULT (excluding normal ISFJ). DESPITE HAVING MALICIOUS INTENT THEY ARE ALL EMOTIONALLY-WEAK AND PRONE TO COVERT/VULNERABLE-NARCISSISM. ............................... Also... To intelligent readers (who do 'not’ have a ‘pathological disregard for rationality and reality'). I recommend researching 'narcissistic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissist'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!! They are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-r@pe, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim/damsel in distress, creating "flying-monkeys", and 'bribing' others (with money or BJ) to attack, or at times, kill someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Emmett Till. xSFP and ISFJ (2W1) are the most complicit, narcissistic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependents' (look up the definition). Like ESFJ, XSFP's "feelings 'is' their reality." Most are covert/vulnerable-narcissists. ISFJ often perceive things only on the surface level (even by sensor standards), are suckers for a “pretty face", and their neuro-psychology makes them the ideal narcissitic-codependent and pawn to the ESFJ (blind-loyalty, surface level perception, susceptibility to covert-narcissism). Lastly, ISFJ are notorious for impersonating other people's identities IRL and on the internet. SUMMARY Evil personality: 'ESFJ' (ALL), ESTJ (Cluster-b), ISFJ-2W1 (covert-narc/enabler). [Secretly] Evil and narcissist-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP (ALL), ESFP (ALL), and ISFJ (2W1 enable ESFJ). ☝️ALL of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict as a distraction (at other people's expense, truly evil). Spread the word! Thank you. ___________ Research ref: Raudha Athif, Ghislaine Maxwell, Marilyn Monroe, Karen, ESFJ-narcissists, ESFJ-neurology, Gaslighting, Amber Heard, Fake feminism, Rising of a shield hero (Malty-'ESFJ'; XSFX spread disinformation online. ISFJ is the main culprit; ISFJ largely perceive things on the surface level), 'Brood-parasitism’- XSFJ natural psychology. // Close.

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

Whoah!! Too much intelligence and sign of basic sentience in your post! Ps: I was referring to the "our job as parents..." Not to product dumb children who can only mindlessly indulge their feelings, and live the life of an overgrown incubating-fetus and vulnerable-narcissit. ... That's basically what you're implying, and to that, I say... "Kudos". 👏🤯🎉 Most parents will never authentically arrive at that realization, let alone act on it. All the not reason for "parental licence." Not everyone is suited to produce and rise a human. Most can hardly manage an actual pet (like "Doggo" over here, 👉🐶 🐕 ~who's a good boy?🦴 ). ... Lol. 😅🤭

@MartineH1 Жыл бұрын

@@Human_01 I struggle to be a good parent. I try to not lead my daughter to take (or not to take!) my own steps and it is one of the hardest things to do. I talk a lot to her and try to help her to find her own way and it is hard to not use my own experiences as example (bad or good). But I usually say that the things that are really important in this life: be happy, and it is your responsibility. But don't hurt anyone when you are seeking hapiness. Be honest and decent. It comes back to you in blessings. Be generous, specially to the vunerable ones. It comes back to you in form of love. Chose wisely those ones that will be around you. It comes back to you as support and good enviroment. Even Jesus did it. And believe that God helps the ones that have good will...And go and live, for life is a gift (a "presente" as we say in portuguse). Yes, live the present!

@togek1ss 2 ай бұрын

@@MartineH1 as someone that had to deal with toxic friends like this girl did (wasn't homicidal but definitely a sociopath that was unraveling in her disorder). what my mother did when I was a teen was teach me about personality disorders (specifically cluster B type) and to always trust my gut and not feel guilt for cutting off/telling off people when I feel as if they disrespected me. A lot of people like this girl suffer from feeling too much guilt for others that they can't make logical choices for themselves.

@joychappell3817 Жыл бұрын

Hardest working man on KZbin! Happy Fourth of July weekend Dr. Grande! 🎉💥 Thank you for your excellent content.

@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын

Yes he is best at his work, how are you doing?

@Ycjedi Жыл бұрын

"But at least he didnt have to finish watching The Matrix: Revolutions" 😅😅

@m.f.richardson1602 Жыл бұрын

Always interesting. Another reason for Me to limit my experience with people Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲

@maxshabazz1543 Жыл бұрын

That Matrix Revolutions joke was brutal lol. Truly tragic case.

@scarletohara6743 2 ай бұрын

This was a excellent analysis of these sick young people. Thank you for your work, Dr. Grande.

@Microbex Жыл бұрын

Your dry humor is refreshing Dr.Grande. 😅 Thanks.

@rejaneoliveira5019 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@MDWD Жыл бұрын

You nailed it Dr.Grande as always. Txs

@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын

I agree they should never be released. They not only pose a danger to society but they do not deserve to have a life of freedom after what they did to Kelly.

@michael-m Жыл бұрын

That was an interesting one. As per usual I have to express my thanks for tonight's video, Doc. I can offically call my day complete now that I viewed today's case. Stay well people! OH! One more quick thing....(please read👇🏼) If you are Canadian, I hope you had a great Canada Day! 🇨🇦 If you are American, I hope yall have a great 4th! 🇺🇸 Regardless, make smart choices this long weekend. No excuse to drinking or drugging and driving and just overall be safe out there.. Watch out for each other whether on the roads, waterways, trails, backyards and BBQs or frankly wherever! I wanna continue to see yall here I future videos. No excuses. Stay well both Doc and y'all out there ✌🏼

@dizmoolli275 Жыл бұрын

💯👏👏 Gracias

@WoodyWard Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the speculation and analysis. 👍

@kaleskristen 8 ай бұрын

I came to your page to see if you had anything on the Kohberger case, but found this. I grew up here and I started school at Redlands East Valley the year after this all happened and I remember how awful it all was. Thankfully I didn’t know any of these people but I am friends with people whose older siblings went to school with them and none of the stories I have heard about them were pleasant(besides Kelly) It really is a sad and tragic story 😞

@ChefSalad 2 ай бұрын

On the topic of loneliness, I've always like the quote, "If I must be lonely, I think I'd rather be alone," referring to preferring no partner to a bad partner. it's always served me well.

@christinekordyjaka2113 Жыл бұрын

Dear Doctor glad to hear from you.

@reginald1106 Жыл бұрын

Me driving thru Redlands & just happen to listen to this video… close to home

@yamnjam Жыл бұрын

These evil people have no idea how much their crimes devastate the victim's families. The pain never really goes away and we can never see our loved one again. I agree with Dr Grande that unrepentant killers like these two should stay in prison.

@kelleybutler9203 Жыл бұрын

Great Analysis Dr. G. I had heard about this year’s ago but I truly think they should never be released either. Truly Terrifying.

@mattsspelman1457 Жыл бұрын

Bro wtf you slipping a cheeky roast of The Matrix in there. 😂

@AnnaBelll.e Жыл бұрын

Thank you for covering this story. Great analysis. I agree they need to die in prison.

@Human_01 Жыл бұрын

I strongly agree. But they did get rid of a homunculus, pampered lump of meat who never owned her own mind (solely acting on emotional cravings). Correct enforcement and legislation of "Parental licence" will solve so much of societies ills and result in an increasingly sentient population.

@elizabethwarman9028 Жыл бұрын

Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. I always learn something new from your videos.

@tracymiller1149 Жыл бұрын

"I guess he was giving up on the romantic relationship. Probably because of the murder part." I agree with Dr. Grande that they shouldn't be released from prison.

@zbaby82 Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree they should never be let out of prison.

@sophiaisabelle027 Жыл бұрын

We appreciate your dedication and hard work. Bless you.

@zwatwashdc Жыл бұрын

Bad parents leave their kid’s vulnerable to this kind of evil.

@leslijones4443 5 ай бұрын

Not always.

@ToeFungusASMR Жыл бұрын

These monsters need to be locked away for life and never released.

@starlyngaberson Жыл бұрын

Good coverage! Very informative

@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын

Yes we need learn everyday, how are you doing?

@Jay-fn2bh Жыл бұрын

Another excellent analysis. Thank you Dr. Grande.

@amieskattebo1378 Жыл бұрын

Could you do a video on body integrity identity disorder?

@rolandscoth8520 Жыл бұрын

Only if the corrupt government officials will allow him, how are you doing?

@FernRoses Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe the vehicle was found in the Ontario Mills Mall parking lot.

@UK2K1990 2 ай бұрын

"This was a battle to see who could demonstrate the lowest standards " One again, Dr. Grande doesn't miss.. There are always a few hidden gems in Dr Grande's sarcasm. Oke of my favorite parts.

@arabianhorses4ever115 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Your insight always seems spot on. Is teen murder--by another teen on the rise, or are we just hearing about it more? How do we do better? How do we teach kids not to trust their friends, and that friends kill friends? Can we teach them to spot dangerous behaviors in just anyone?

@PlanesKiwi Жыл бұрын

It seems that her mother wasn't present enough to teach her daughter the necessary life skills. Perhaps the mother also wasn't taught them by her mother? I really believe that life skills *_must_* be taught in schools. Too many parents are just not, for lots of reasons, able to adequately teach their kids.

@melinda3413 Жыл бұрын

I drive down San timateo - and over the train tracks where she was found 6 days a week. RIP Kelly.

@CringePanda Жыл бұрын

Throw away the key.

@drewray4U Жыл бұрын

Nothing like speculating with the best 💯

@frixrules Жыл бұрын

I had to pause the video just to laugh at the Matrix Revolutions joke. As usual, great delivery!!

@kellygulnick3960 Жыл бұрын

You're so funny dr grande!!😂 that being said its so sad how many people dont realzie their own value...why didnt kelly see she wss worth so much more than a man and "friends" that treated her in such a manner!

@jodybrown4956 Жыл бұрын

Kelly would be advised to have read the inspired book the Bible made friends with her creator come to know his personal name been forewarned of effect of poor choices bad associations reaping what we sow don't throw pearls before swine supposed justice system humankind's failure to act with wisdom soon reveals identity of true influence behind vast majority last days raise your heads erect deliverance near stay on narrow path ovoid broad spacious road many traveling on leading to destruction .

@terriwilliams4628 Жыл бұрын

Another good analysis video.

@britneyhouston-escajeda Жыл бұрын

Spot on Dr. Grande! always love how you sprinkle some humor in there...The Matrix bit 😂

@jeffreystorer4966 Жыл бұрын

Spot on doc ,that pair of crazy people should never be released, some kind of broken can never be repaired

@loiskondo8349 Жыл бұрын

I totally agree Dr. Grande, these two should never be free! We need to make sure our young people have high self esteem so they are less likely to fall for these types of people!