Did Turbulence Help Bring Down United Airlines 585? 🌪️ Air Disasters | Smithsonian Channel

[@butteraviation3228]

I love how the smithsonian channel says “it’s brighter here” at the end of every video after talking about a plane with hundreds of people on board crashing

[@ryanramjag6365]

Ikr

[@guyunknown9123]

Glass half full folks....

[@kaypz]

It’s out of place

[@CaerelsJan]

I love how this is the 109th time I've read this kind of comment.

[@muftiharits]

Well technically speaking it’s brighter there at the moment of impact

[@JoenneAndreson]

I was a Flight Attendant for United in the 80's and 90's. I flew this same route out of Denver the next morning. I was traumatized but continued flying for another 10 years. We were told it was a heavy wind sheer that brought 585 down

[@Tsheed1]

It was a hard-over rudder issue. That happened on the couple other flights on the Boeing B737 luckily one didn't crash so they was finally able to figure out what have happened

[@HirokaAkita]

Cause of the crash: *UNDETERMINED* . Yes, that was one of the only "undetermined" FAA cases. Several years later, thanks to an aircraft that barely survived unharmed those sudden rolls, it was revealed that the servo valve which controls the -tail's rudder- ailerons, in extreme temperature conditions (to be specific, thermal shocks), could get jammed, or even worse, inverse their inputs. _Yes people, that means left became right and right became left._

[@tangojuli209]

wing's rudder?

[@HirokaAkita]

@@tangojuli209 * Tail Sorry xD

[@redleader5199]

@@tangojuli209 No ssuch thing as rudders on wings, those are called ailerons, and also it's rudder hard over.

[@tangojuli209]

@@redleader5199 (I know) I didn't know if Hiroka Akita has Engl as a 2nd language, so I was giving him a heads up with I hope, subtlety.

[@redleader5199]

@@tangojuli209 He speaks english perfectly,

[@TheFULLMETALCHEF]

As I recall this was due to a malfunctioning flight surface servo that jammed the rudder hard over. Nothing the pilots could have done.

[@MrSuzuki1187]

It was caused by a rotor wind on the lee side of the front range, not a rudder hard over. The rotor rolled the airplane upside down at about 1,000 feet above the ground which was impossible to recover from. I flew this exact 737, airplane #1299 (UAL number, not the N number), on Flight 585, DEN-COS one week before this accident. It was our newest and cleanest B-737-200, and it was my favorite one to fly at United where I was a pilot from 1986-2015. I was a pilot on United's 737-200 fleet for 10 years and the other pilots in this fleet all believed it was a rotor wind, aka an invisible horizontal tornado, a phenomenon unique to the front range of the Rockies. It was invisible due to the dryness of the air, but would occasionally be visible for a brief time, which was the evidence proving it was a rotor wind, not the rudder.

[@SneakyCaleb]

So high winds like this can just bring planes down? It’s just luck of the draw?

[@impossible98123]

That is wrong. It was a servo failure that caused a hard over and reversal. Look it up.

[@aboodcraft8385]

1:49 "CRASH! CRASH!"

[@icycreamfrommc_1745]

1:37 Look at the rudder dam

[@bintanganimationzrulez9771]

1:49 CRASH!! CRAAASH!!!!

[@DM-mj8nr]

is that part of ATC training? to jump out of your chair and start shrieking “CRASH CRASH”?

[@planeman8414]

Kinda

[@spaceenemiesnovel]

I guess that was for the TV version. The real ATC sounded much more professional. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2W2fHd_idZlnsk

[@animemangafan1987]

He overreacted on what he saw after the damn crash. We're all human

[@ourserieswillnevereverdie]

When the person yelled CRASH CRASH I started crying because it was sad 😔

[@AwShucks_DrØneStrike]

1:49 "CRASH, CRASH!"🗿🗿🗿

[@riythemusicguy7696]

I occasionally visit the park where the plane fell. It's tragic that this happened.

[@goodbye_ig]

ATC Tower: CRASH, CRASH! The ghosts pilots: oh my god JUST SHUT UP

[@gwats19577]

Rudder hardover...It took out a USAir 737 too...

[@falanajerido875]

Wow when does descending become such a problems?

[@maths5214]

1:49 ratio the air traffic controller shouts

[@obombabeenlaid5101]

That's one huge cockpit. That low they didn't have a chance.

[@hoax1216]

smithsonian channel : A plane crash Also smithsonian channel : Its brighter here

[@kareemhaidar2003]

1:49 “CRASH!! CRASH!!!”

[@pnrlineofficialyt9837]

1:49 crash!!!! Crash!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@LeemWills]

Brace brace brace brace

[@AurelienBTC2937]

Brace for impact

[@mwm78]

Have we learned our lesson here ? We must never take a Smithsonian channel cameraman in our next planes or else bad things are gonna happen !

[@JohnADuerk]

Excerpt from the NTSB report: "3.2 Probably Cause. The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of the United Airlines flight 585 accident was a loss of control of the airplane resulting from the movement of the rudder surface to its blowdown limit. The rudder surface most likely deflected in a direction opposite to that commanded by the pilots as a result of a jam of the main rudder power control unit servo valve secondary slide to the servo valve housing offset from its neutral position and overtravel of the primary slide" (p. 139).

[@Rocky_bhai08436]

Amazing channel and video

[@reneesaddler2796]

This is so crazy I like for this❤

[@petrolhead9621]

It’s so sad as they are just about to land the aircraft

[@JazeDionisio]

1:49 CRASH! CRASH!

[@jhoel8039]

You can see scenes of the crash in the episode runaway runoff

[@ahmed_MBZ250]

Where can i see the full uncut episode?

[@foxhound_inc]

Good question I want an answer to that too

[@ادم-د8ج7و]

im pretty sure on the smithsonian channel website

[@ادم-د8ج7و]

not sure but it was there a few years ago so

[@BestIkeaTable]

On tv if you’re in America

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[@fnkfauzan2]

Animation:Violence Turn Real life:Not Violence Turn

[@D-syncMonopoly]

I live like 3 minutes away from this airport

[@billkrupp409]

Duel flap spindle failure

[@SaharaColeman]

Really almost on the runway and this mess happens? If turbulence brought this plane down then anyone who says “don’t worry about it” needs to watch this episode.

[@musman9853]

it was a issue with a rudder control system. Turbulence isn't an issue.

[@pieseldatches]

Turbulence wasn't the cause, the rudder of this plane had a design flaw.

[@adilsidd8063]

@@musman9853 turbulence wasn't the issue in this case but it is a major issue if it's counter a plane

[@JP-he6rq]

25 people died ,, in wilderfild park,, the park is haunted with the sprites of the dead, who died on flight 585

[@geeesegooose]

It is not haunted 😂 I live near there and nothing is wrong. There is a very peaceful memorial to those who lost their lives. Widefield* community park

[@ItsYaBoiBaller]

The cause of the crash was because of a rudder hardover rip to those who died in the crash

[@hkobb7]

Is the ATC controller like the Home Alone dad's younger brother or something

[@Ate-lover]

the rudder is turn to the right

[@alejandroalejo3302]

Rudder hardover's 1st strike...

[@KkedldLgamertagGD]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rebornthefgist]

The actual reason is not turbulence, instead it was a rudder hardover.

[@songyan6662]

ATC: CRASH!!! CRASH!!! Outro: iTs bRIgHTeR hERe

[@bintanganimationzrulez9771]

Lol

[@kamalsidhu7454]

Help? I was expecting a safe landing by your caption

[@jaredbrown3249]

Something in tail broke

[@alexsandusky7691]

Imagine honoring these people that lost their lives in these terrible accidents and you pick the worst actors ever to portray them. Send them back to info commercials.

[@tag4042]

The tumbnail spoiles the cause

[@pedrofonseca6949]

the pilot probably stepped on the rudder way to much

[@planeman8414]

No it was a flaw in the rudder system, happend a few times

[@vladimirputinforUSA]

CRASH...CRAAAASSSSHHHHHH!!!

[@ofooda]

Rudder malfunction/rudder hardover

[@OOHAMI25]

Hello

[@Girly194-g1i]

I dont think turbulence helped 585 crash the boeing 727 has a problem with its rudder the rudder would freeze up during decent to lower atitude

[@paulinakorga-barancewicz6087]

Why plane crahed Beacuse of rudder

[@AurelienBTC2937]

And USAir 427 ?

[@AurelienBTC2937]

Eastwind 517

[@AurelienBTC2937]

What

[@angelitodejesus7391]

1:49

[@thebigmaninprague3827]

it crashed because the tail would get stuk if yoi turned the tail strongly

[@carolinaanicetodelapaz3104]

😮😢😢😢 Unitec

[@เอื้อมพรขําประเสริฐ]

Pirate don't know

[@kyledbryant]

Those pilots looked terrified in a 10 knot wind shear. I soloed students at that airport with a 10 knot wind shear. It was common all year long at COS.

[@oneilbrissett4854]

Usair 427,s brother

[@HAMSE-n8v]

this real

[@miladnassir6637]

Ok

[@ishmaelwastaken]

CRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CRASHHHHHHHH

[@Boeinge]

How about Failed you Landing Failure

[@physiotechniques]

Oops everyone is died RIP 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@scythingthrough4273]

United 585

[@scythingthrough4273]

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[@NAISBAISFSX]

it wasnt a problem with turbulence but it was a problem with rudder control system basically a technical eror

[@lizrachel5085]

ini c jry pos laju sangat baik hati tidak akan membuka hatimu yang tak akan saling mengecewakan mu yang tak pernah bisa dipaksa atas aturan tapi tak pernah bisa dipaksa

[@CyanOfficialYT]

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[@NAISBAISFSX]

it wasnt turbulence the cause if the crash it was rudder control system (technical error)