Do we need fruits and vegetables?

We often hear that we need to eat our "fruits and vegetables" to be healthy. But is that statement backed by science? You may be surprised to hear the answer. Don't get me wrong. Vegetables can absolutely be part of a healthy diet and most people should eat an array of veggies. But does this advice apply to everyone and is it a health requirement? Let's dig in to the science!
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Table of contents:
0:00 Introduction
0:23 About the DD guide on fruit and vegetable
1:45 Do we need fruits?
4:58 Do we need vegetables?
6:51 RCT on fruits and vegetable consumption
9:17 Correlation to diabetes and metabolic syndrome
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[@hongkongtennis]

It’s bizarre how complicated this has all become. I grew up in the 1950’s. Most people were slim. The exact opposite of today. We ate bread, potatoes, peas, meat, vegetables, and occasional fruit. We ate fat. I never ate at a restaurant until I was 19. Take away food was fish and chips once a week. We ran around a lot. There wasn’t much else to do. We ate fat on toast with salt. In the 1970’s and 80’s we were told fat was bad and carbs were good. We had more sedentary entertainment. Processed foods became much more available. And then the obesity and diabetes epidemic began. We got richer, lazier, and fatter.

[@frankmattox1802]

Spot on. My experience too. I remember eating lard sandwiches. Yum!

[@geoffreylevens9045]

@@frankmattox1802 I really think the main problem is the hyper palatable, nutrient stripped, manufactured fake foods, esp those enriched with inflammatory high omega 6 oils, artificial sweeteners, refined sugars, extracted fructose etc. Any diet that eliminates those will dramatically increase health.

[@danieleduchene-alessandrin6959]

Lard and salt on baguettes miam miam fond memories

[@Pinkorchid72]

I have to say that I love these stories!

[@mistyrotanza6818]

And we moved a hell of a lot more

[@carolynbailey4530]

I have struggled with digestive issues for years, three weeks ago I completely cut out all plants and haven’t had any digestive problems. Bloating, nausea, pain, constipation gone within three days. Obviously I have a dysfunctional digestive system, I’m not advocating everyone does it, but for me it’s worked. So grateful for folks like you, before being exposed to the actual research I would have NEVER thought about excluding the “required” 30-40 grams of fiber from my diet. For the first time in a very long time I feel great everyday.

[@jonitouschner6040]

Truth!

[@cathy3701]

Same here. Plant free for 15 months. Autoimmune issues resolved. IBS-C gone.

[@scotchfillet]

Here as well. Low carb and daily IF did wonders. But eliminating fruit and vegetables fully resolved digestive issues as well 'heal' the arthritis in my hands.

[@miekiepiekie1]

Wow thats great! I want to try it for the same reason one day 🙈

[@keylanoslokj1806]

Yeah some of us have a really cute compromised digestive tract

[@irisevans7763]

It was really good to see such a rare video where facts, limits of knowledge, and personal bias are clearly communicated in such an honest way. Thank you!

[@johnsonpaul1914]

Please note-- bell pepper, zucchini, tomatoes green beans, snap peas are technically fruit. A fruit is the seed containing structure

[@johnsonpaul1914]

@@zlmdragon. Excuse me, but the good Dr just got done putting a disclaimer on "fruits" having nutrition over and above what was available in "vegetables" and the proceeded to incorrectly include green beans and zucchini as desired vegetables, I have no idea what your "poison reference is implying. Let's have the content correct

[@michaelashley2855]

Noted. Excused. The GOOD doctor

[@LucasTigy2]

i still like to put it this way. plants are less digestible than animals and don't contain as wide of a nutrient profile. however, a lot of plants contain high amounts of certain nutrients, which can make them beneficial for supplementation. if you are lacking in certain nutrients, you can use plants high in that nutrient to try and make up for it. there's also different methods of making plant nutrition more bioavailable as well as reducing any antinutrients present in them. so no, you don't need them, but they can still help in their own way. (not to mention some of them even taste good ;D)

[@richardmathews8250]

A year of Keto took care of the majority of my health issues, many I'd just caulked up to getting old, but, I remained on methotrexate for my RA. 30 days of eliminating all plant foods and tapered off methotrexate in 2 weeks. Another week and I tried a small salad and my hands cramped up terribly the next day. Another week and I again tried a small salad with the same results. I continued carnivore for a few more months and at that time was able to tolerate a salad with no problems. I now switch between carnivore and a meat heavy Keto.

[@michaelashley2855]

Good

[@bighands69]

I would suggest seeking out a gastroenterologist who specializes in integrated/functional medicine or a allergist who does the same thing. You need to probably go through a process of elimination to figure out what the cause is.

[@richardmathews8250]

@@bighands69 Why, the problem is solved. I don't "need" to eat plant foods, check out Dr. Zoe Harcomb on KZbin.

[@bighands69]

@@richardmathews8250 It is like having a stomach reaction when you drink water but everything else you drink you feel better. It would most certainly be something worth investigating rather than leaving. I do not mean rush down at five in the morning to a hospital but doing some research and finding the correct doctor such as I stated above is a good thing. There is nothing wrong with eating meat but not being able to touch any vegetation at all is worth checking out.

[@the51project]

Cows eat grass. I eat cows.

[@MT-sq3jo]

Unfortunately, most cows are fed corn (a grain, not fruits or veggies) in USA 🤣

[@scottw2317]

@@MT-sq3jo My Australian Cows eat grass and I eat Australian Cows ;)

[@TerriblePerfection]

You're very fortunate if your cow ate grass. Most do not.

[@arthurbenedetti9146]

@@TerriblePerfection not really, brazil has basically all cows grass fed, it is cheaper here. The same goes for basically every country from south America. Only europe, north america and parts of asia that are grain fed

[@fignewton8690]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THATS FUNNY

[@tke2414]

I avoid high carb veggies and eat tons of other veggies and also meat every day. IMO, the idea for most people should be to just avoid processed foods, sugar and seed oils as much as possible and eat only whole foods and healthy fats. If you can combine that with IF and maybe a 6-8 hour eating window and 16-18 hour fasting, your body will thank you in more ways than you can imagine.

[@geraldlewis432]

Cool

[@alventuradelacruz522]

Carbs are good ,I eat most of them

[@TravelConsumer]

​@@alventuradelacruz522carbs literally makes you ugly stop go carnivore

[@PearsonReport]

Okay class… let’s say this all together… There are no essential carbohydrates There are no essential carbohydrates There are no essential carbohydrates Just saying… There are no essential carbohydrates

[@saltrock9642]

I just sprinkle in veggies throughout the week and all is good. I have a some berries but no fruit. This issue is similar to the cholesterol discussion where it has always been assumed that fruit was a super health food and LDL cholesterol was the evilest of all evils. Things are starting to turn around on these issues. Thanks Doc!

[@markfox3083]

Berries are little fruit

[@YouYubeEnjoyerNum1]

yes... fruits and veggies are bad and ldl cholestorol is good... my bad habits aren't bad...

[@Pinkorchid72]

Same! Veggies 4 times a week only as a small side to a grilled steak topped with butter or blue/Gorgonzola cheese. Few strawberries or blackberries 3 times a week. 1/2 tsp of honey in my tea.

[@mmabagain]

I have a some berries but no fruit. I have fruit but only berries. There ya go.

[@thelastminmom5251]

Berries are a fruit.

[@christinaa.8233]

I’ve eaten a plant-free diet for about two years now and have had almost no digestive issues. Prior to that I always ate lots and lots of fruits and vegetables thinking that they were so healthy and wondering why I was running to the bathroom five times a day. I had bloating, cramps, diarrhea, and gas all day every day. Since I have eliminated the plants, I have never felt better. Meat, eggs, and dairy is the way for me. It may not work for everybody else and sometimes it’s difficult to wrap your head around not having any produce, but it seems as though it works for quite a few people that have suffered from specific elements such as auto immune disease and gastrointestinal disease. I started this way of eating with Graves’ disease/hyperthyroidism and have come off of the anti-thyroid medication and my thyroid levels are all normal. I have also lost about 65 lbs.

[@angelgirldebbiejo]

I have same problem with breaking down the veggies. I do like a salad now and then but too many will cause gastric problems.

[@christinaa.8233]

@@angelgirldebbiejo same here. I actually enjoy salads and such but my stomach does not.

[@nickbardan3867]

How is your cholesterol levels?

[@christinaa.8233]

@@nickbardan3867 all within range. HDL on the high end of normal and triglycerides on the low end. LDL right in the middle. Even if the values were elevated I wouldn’t mind and would not take a statin or change my diet if they paid me.

[@nickbardan3867]

@@christinaa.8233 Hmm....I've been trying all kinds of diets in the past two years. I never went for the extremes vegan or carnivore. I'm afraid of both . I don't know what to eat anymore .Even water is toxic.

[@avermaak12]

I stopped eating fruit and veg almost 5 years ago. Resolved chronic athsma completely

[@krayziejerry]

Ypu must be so constipated, do you have hemorrhoids due to your all meat diet?

[@avermaak12]

@@krayziejerry not a single problem. Apparrentlt requirement for dietary fiber is a myth. 49 yo and in tip top shape

[@johnpatrickorense3982]

Fruits are natural but are not eaten naturally. Some animals eat fruits in the fall to get fat and prepare for winter when food is scarce. We have it all year round. Also some fruits are modified to be very sweet. The fructose is processed in the liver and too much causes fatty liver disease (not mentioned)

[@donaldevanshennings7732]

Spot on.

[@kevind4383]

It's also possible for a fruit to taste sweeter not because of an increase in sugar content but through a decrease in acid. Granny Smith and Golden Delicious are both apple varieties with a fairly equal sugar content, yet the Golden Delicious apple is far sweeter to the taste because it has a much lower acid content than the Granny Smith variety. Also, the ironic thing with grapes is that the higher sugar varieties tend to get used for wine-making whereas table grapes are typically bred to have less sugar and acid than wine grapes. When it comes to breeding affordable, mass-produced fruit, traits like crop yield, storage, and resistance to disease take far more precedence than a higher sugar content. If you see some inclusion of words like "sweet", "sugar", or "honey" in the name of a fruit, it's not as much of an indicator of a wildly higher sugar content as much as it's a marketing tactic. It's important to remember that when calories are equated, studies have shown that actual fat loss is pretty consistent among ALL types of diets and no one diet reigns supreme in that regard. Some people just don't like fruit that much and low-to-no-fruit diets pander to those palettes. When people are gaining significant amounts of fat on a diet full of highly processed junk and fast food, the last thing we need to tell those people is that the reason why they're gaining weight is because of the unprocessed, whole fruits they're likely rarely eating to begin with.

[@donaldevanshennings7732]

@@kevind4383 I agree with a lot of what you say but if you compare a granny smiths with a crab apple you can see the difference between a wild fruit and a cultivated one. The traits you mentioned are important but sweetness is very important to the consumer. No diet intending to benefit people includes processed foods. If that is your diet the maybe the nutrients from fruits could be important. The sugar in fruits is fructose and this is the worst sugar you can consume. Its also the main sweetener in high fructose corn syrup used in processed foods. Fructose can only be metabolised by your liver, resulting in fatty liver disease if you over consume. If you try to lose weight by cutting calories you will fail. To lose weight you need to appreciate how your body uses what you eat. When you eat carbs your insulin rises causing your body to stop burning fat and to store more fat. This is the most important thing to understand if dieting for weight loss. I have changed to a low carb high fat diet to improve my metabolic health. I am 69 and the same size I was at 18. My blood tests show a great improvement over last year. I'm sure you could get similar nutrition from a vegetarian or vegan type diet but that seems harder to do for me. I was on a mainly plant based diet until 9 months ago. I suspect you know this.

[@kevind4383]

@@donaldevanshennings7732 Thanks for the response. First and foremost, I'm glad you've been able to improve your health, that's also a path I've gone down in recent years. In May 2018 I was around 180 pounds (BMI over 28), by August 2019 I dipped under 130, and now I'm just under 120 and holding steady. However, the path I chose to go includes less dietary fat, more whole fruit, a reduction in calories and an increase in cardio. I was most definitely cutting calories during the four months in which I lost the bulk of the weight but ever since then I've just slowly trended down when others would be experiencing the "back up" part of the yo-yo. I simply made modifications in the carbs I consume, but it's almost always been swapping a simple carb out for a more complex one. I replaced things like french fries with grapes/melon/papaya, I eat more quinoa as opposed to white rice, and l almost always use chickpea pasta over wheat. People have been breeding fruit for a long time, yet the obesity epidemic is only 40-50 years old. Fruit has been bred to be sweeter for far longer than just the last 40-50 years, so if that does play a role, it's likely a minor one. Removing the fructose from the fruit and adding it to processed foods that also likely contain fat (unlike fruits that contain fructose, fat and fructose is a combo not seen in nature) is the main culprit, but it's orders of bad above being something like table grapes. For fat loss, the most important part of any {insert prefix here}-diet is the "diet" part, and that's just a fancy way of saying "cutting calories." Similar to when when the body is running off of carbs, the body has no reason to initiate lipolysis when dietary fat is sufficient enough to maintain a certain caloric threshold; it will only begin lipolysis when a caloric deficit is present. Don't get me wrong, having lowered blood sugar is certainly a good thing, and fat loss has been shown to have a positive impact on insulin tolerance, but the body can still lose fat even on a diet that includes a modest level of carbs. Insulin's primary role is to take blood glucose and convert it into glycogen for use in the liver and muscles, but the insulin won't convert glucose into adipose tissue if those glycogen reserves are low (like they would be after exercise or fasting.)

[@krayziejerry]

You do realize that during different seasons, we have Have different seasons for fruit, of course we have food all year round. 😆

[@thejoshuathomas]

I appreciate the balance in your discussion points. I personally eat a meat-based diet including specific fruits (kiwifruit, bananas, occasional berries). My reasoning for kiwifruit and banana is that I can easily control my daily consumption levels. I have the occasional berry or cruciferous vegetables when it is offered at someone's home or at times when dining out, but those instances are minimal at most. I utilize these habits simply because they aid me in feeling my most optimal (no present or previous illnesses/deficiencies). I am able to maintain my physique year-round with minimal fluctuations. I have never struggled with cravings for anything not in my current plan, though I will not deny my childhood affinity for assorted pasta dishes. I am sharing this because I think it is important that those of us who choose a style of eating without preexisting issues often stay silent and do not contribute much to these discussions. And if others can relate, then maybe they will not feel at odds with or ashamed of their choices. If you read this far, thanks, and I hope this message resonates with you in some capacity.

[@mrazik131]

are kiwis grown in your area? how many do you eat a day? I have seen them grow in NZ,😃

[@thejoshuathomas]

@@mrazik131 They're shipped into my location year round (Southeastern U.S.). They come from multiple countries depending on brands, some are from California with others from a few Latin American countries. On occasion we get New Zealand kiwifruit, but I haven't seen them in a bit.

[@bighands69]

@@thejoshuathomas If you have no health issues you can probably eat a more varied diet. To include Meat, fish, eggs, nuts, fruit, green veg and potatoes. The key is to ensure that you do not over consume processed carbohydrates such as wheat flour and added sugar. Going forward you should probably get some medical tests such as bloods, fibroscan and CAC scan. Take advantage of your good health as too many people just take it for granted.

[@thejoshuathomas]

@@bighands69 You're definitely right. I've expanded my food choices since this post, but this was a great launching point/reset mechanism. Every major food group is now back in my eating habits, except for whole grains, which I'm working on including in some capacity.

[@bighands69]

@@thejoshuathomas With whole grains' keep them to a minimum but consume them for variety. I would not consider them a health food but they do taste good. So having a bit of toast or quina once a week is fine or even rice.

[@borderreiver3647]

The climate argument against meat production is a non starter, crop farming produces a higher carbon footprint than meat production. Especially when using artificial fertilisers and pesticides.

[@siddhanthravichandran3245]

Yea.... But meat production needs way more crop farming because we currently have to support around 60billion farm animals.... As opposed to 7 billion humans. If we fed ourselves directly with plants.... There would be a significant decrease in crop farming

[@BigSlimyBlob]

@@siddhanthravichandran3245 The vast majority of the grain we feed livestock was meant for human consumption, it was rejected for low quality or is a byproduct. Not that many crops are grown specifically for farm animals, though admittedly that's still too much; we should focus on regenerative ranching instead.

[@emerson-sheaapril8555]

Thank you so much! Have been so confused about this, especially considering studies don't often take into account ones metabolic health.. which..mine is not the best. I'm really glad you made those distinctions and now not feeling so confused anymore or wondering if I'm missing out or doing harm I can focus more fully on life style changes.

[@caminhaoraizes]

This was really wonderful content thank you as being a former diabetic I can say that there is no such thing as one diet fits all with my body type and moderate protein high fat diet works great and you have to take into consideration as you age and according to your activity level you’re going to have to adjust your approach thank you for the wonderful video

[@matts2758]

Thanks Bret. Love your open minded and balanced approach to thinking about things.

[@rtdpoe620]

i appreciate that you mention the evidence for different viewpoints & studies. thank you!

[@damien2198]

After years of constipation/bloating, cutting vegetables/fibers totally solved the issue, and more. Meat (and a bit of fruits) all the way

[@krystalmarie5637]

How often do you eat red meat? Interesting hmm, many people who follow carnivore actually experience constipation.

[@damien2198]

@@krystalmarie5637 one or twice a day, sometime 3 times ( but honestly now I only eat max twice a day, red meat fill me up for the whole day, nothing better than starting a day with eggs & steak, I do not need to eat the whole day, (huge productivity hack). My poo has never been as regular (daily/smooth) than on carnivore.

[@krystalmarie5637]

@@damien2198Thanks for your reply! How long have you been following this diet? I tried a carnivore (fish, mostly wild caught) a few months ago for 3-5 days (form of fasting included) and I had seen some good benefits like increase/sustained energy, clarity, decreased inflammation, generally felt well etc. However, my bowel movements slowed down significantly. I do have a digestive condition that I think may play role this and I also do not get enough sleep, don’t exercise and sit often. I also have followed a keto like diet essentially including green salads, kale, zucchini and yellow squash with my meals. Similar results without the halt in bowel movements. Currently, I’ve been including grass fed steak into my diet and pastured eggs. It’s been a challenge maintaining keto or carnivore because of several reasons, sometimes difficult to have the time to cook my meals, my own lack of willpower/discipline etc. And my partner who I stay with eats a lot of processed or high sugar foods so those foods are in the house. I’ve been addicted to sugar in the past because of the way I grew up so sometimes it’s really challenging to not indulge. I WILL start and sustain a keto/carnivore cyclic diet within the upcoming months. I WILL put only high quality foods into my body. I WILL intermittently fast. I WILL stop sitting as often as I do. I WILL move my body everyday. I WILL get enough sleep. I WILL stress less.

[@damien2198]

@@krystalmarie5637 3 years now, I mostly eat beef(i prefer grain feed (fattier))&(normal )eggs. it just feels right .

[@whomadethatsaltysoup]

I thought it was very helpful. A very reasoned look at the '5 a day' myth. I particularly liked the clear line drawn between fruit and vegetables. They are always lumped in together, as though they are one and the same. Obviously, a mango is not the same as a cabbage - just offer them to your children and gauge the response. Again, thank you for sharing this informative video!

[@chetbodley8629]

If you are going to do a video regarding environmental effects of meat based diets you must do a video regarding the environmental disaster of modern agriculture. World wide soil destruction is rendering vegetables less and less nutritious.

[@barbsdee3831]

Well said. Totally agree!

[@radioaxe6964]

Thank you for the factual approach 🙏 👏

[@Damudean]

I have to say this was one of the best videos of seen from a person that supports vegetables in most diets.

[@pointshealthcoaching8474]

Thank you for your brave discussion!. What I find interesting is how ppl change. Example, the small group of ppl you refer to who can't tolerate veggies is not static. You may think you're not in that group at some point, that can change. Why force yourself to eat something you don't need? You can get the same micronutrients from animal nutrition. Your body doesn't have the difficulty digesting both plant and animal sourced foods at the same time. I move towards simplicity and clarity.

[@stevec3872]

I started on keto 15 months ago with great success, evolved to ketovore but mostly "vore". I love fruit but don't eat it. I have a salad nearly everyday, about a cup of greens with some shredded cheddar and half an avocado (yeah, that's a fruit), but that's it. I have no digestive problems, no heartburn, and am very regular with no problems at all with constipation. So I'm good.

[@michaelashley2855]

Yay !

[@berternie6181]

Good shit, glad you're putting out good info like this, the world really needs it

[@helenahandkart1857]

Dr Sher, thank you. A great explanation of the issues people experience, & types of studies out there. I think often the benefit or harm is in the dose. Most people seem to benefit or at least be fine, eating some veg, & even some fruit. Some are super sensitive, & can't tolerate much or any. & increasingly, it is seeming that many start to struggle with various health issues, when the dietary volume of vegetables &/or fruit becomes too high, &/or for too long.

[@mechwarrior83]

Super interesting point you made about high fiber worsening bowel movements. I did not know about this and now realise that often time I will be constipated when I have a large salad. I never put 2 + 2 together on this, thank you for pointing this out and it is of course one of the many reasons I love your channel! Thank you for putting great information out there in a very accessible manner.

[@georgemarkets1]

Check on YT a great presentation by Paul Manson about this topic. I also healed my digestive issues by going zero fiber

[@barbsdee3831]

I love watching your videos as they give a balanced for and against view. It certainly makes me want to investigate more. As a type 2 diabetic I always think it’s good to test my blood glucose before I eat something and then 2 hours after the first mouthful. Everyone has different reactions.

[@Lgarell60]

More Great Information Doc!!!!

[@Joy80JJ]

I don't eat fruit much but do eat some veggies in small quantities along with higher amounts of protein.

[@LisaCulton]

I eat hardly any fruits and vegetables and I'm exceptionally healthy at age 50+. As a matter of fact, my overall well-being improved drastically when I stopped trying to get "5 a day" (and dropped "healthy whole grains" completely). For years now, I get about 2 servings a day, comprised of some leafy greens in a salad and a few handfuls of berries (blueberries, raspberries). That's it.

[@mediawolf1]

I like that you are clear on what the data does and does not show, and how strongly or weakly ("needs more study"). I also appreciate that you are emphasizing individual variations. I personally do better with fiber in my diet. I do better when I eat vegetables with my meat. Without it, my digestion and my overall constitution suffer.

[@jsmith5764]

The data is about numbers of people, I'm not a number so what is best for me will have to wait until there are everyday reliable means for food choices that are beneficial for me.

[@marilynbeth5993]

I love fruits and vegetables. I like having a lot of fiber in my diet. I think one or two piece of sweet fruit a day is a good for me. I think it's far better than processed grains and sweets. I like high fiber vegetables to be filling and keep me from eating less healthy food. With a high fruit and vegetable diet, I can easily maintain my weight. 106 pounds at 5'2".

[@Rosebud4u1]

healthy protein's & fats will do that, more so then what you just described! Plus its not about maintaining weight, other elements matter too... such as fat within your body, sugar spikes during the day, what your body chooses to run on ect... carbs is not a sufficient source, it burns quickly & converts to body fats, upping your internal fat stores, cholesterol ratio ect... if you don't burn it off! If your body can not handle high carb intake. (like when you were younger) Carbs are sugar & sugar is carbs, as is fructose... the only difference is the amount of fibre to counter act net carbs! Ie: subtracting fibre from total carbs to get net carbs of a food

[@edwardwong654]

Dr Bret explains this very well with real critical thinking. Notwithstanding avocado as being a fatty fruit, the anti-fat sentiment thereby promotes fruits and vegetables as a sacred healthy food group. Since most proteins are with meats, they will also be associated with fats. That leaves fruits, and vegetables, and to a lesseer degree grains - until the anti-carb movement is now starting to replace the anti-fat. I still like fruits in moderation although sugars are a concern for me, and I still believe in cruciferous vegetables to give me fiber and other macronutrients. But I look forward to seeing more research in this area. Great topic by Dr Bret.

[@siriusfun]

Thanks, Doc. How about exploring the plant defenses/anti-nutrients found in most vegetables such as phytic acid, oxalates, lectins and other endocrine disruptors? Also, the lack of bio-availability with most. More and more data is skewing this way.

[@robh8057]

I tried not eating fruits and veggies, but that did not last long because I got bored just eating meat.

[@michaellee4053]

I eat high fat/low carb fruit almost everyday: olives, avocados, coconut, and capers. Berries sparingly, and higher sugar content fruit once or twice a year. I can’t imagine doing LC without the aforementioned fruits sans the high sugar fruit.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

✔ I am addicted to shaved coconut with plane cocoa & a drop of sucralose 😋

[@XXXmar123]

Sounds like a low key addiction for me. I used to say that about carbs.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@XXXmar123 - I think you are right !

[@duckfan48]

I really appreciate your evidence based approach to explaining diet, including the hierarchy of evidence.

[@johnsonpaul1914]

I like your willingness to consider alternatives.\

[@georgemarkets1]

I have to congratulate this doctor and the Diet Doctor team for being so open minded and even critical of the established status quo regarding “healthy” nutrition . Amazing video guys. Big thanks from an outlier who also suffers from most vegetables and fruits but is thriving on a meat based diet

[@DF-ee8vt]

Decades from now, there will be lots of data on low-carb diets since many people are "discovering" them. There will be a pretty large natural study group, and I think the results will be favorable. They control weight well and prevent most chronic diseases.

[@beardumaw24]

I've been following Dr Paul Mason, a brilliant young doctor researching metabolic health. His latest research suggests that maybe plant material with all of it's anti-nutrients may not be healthy or required for people to eat. And in fact may positively influence People's Health from abstaining from high amounts of vegetables and fiber.

[@kr639]

FWIW I started out years ago heavy vegetable basked keto, transitioned to all carnivore and now am largely carnivore with some veggies. I used carnivore as an elimination diet and do great with it... no auto immune. Since added in some veggies but more for variety. IMO i'm getting all the nutrients i need especially adding in pastured beef liver, pastured eggs etc.... Feeling really really really good!

[@krystalmarie5637]

Great! How often do you eat red meat?

[@kr639]

@@krystalmarie5637 daily!

[@krystalmarie5637]

@@kr639 That’s awesome! How many years have you been doing this?

[@kr639]

@@krystalmarie5637 2 with about 90 plus percent carnivore

[@rasskall-aka-Luke_A.]

I really appreciate Dr. Scher's objectivity. I am pre-diabetic, and recently flirted with the carnivore diet. I noticed significantly lower levels of inflammation and lost 5lbs, but my waste elimination slowed down some. I think it has everything to do with our gut microbiome, and our ancestral eating genetics. However, with food prices on the rise, it is much more economical for me to have vegetables in my diet.

[@w4rsh1p]

Less waste to remove

[@mrazik131]

veggies are more expensive than meat many times plus it will not satisfy as meat, so to be economical meat is better!

[@Pinkorchid72]

@@w4rsh1p w

[@bakntheday]

That's me. Can't digest veggies well. I can do most tubers however. I can eat fruit but tend not to. I feel SO much better plant free.

[@brett6468]

I eat local berries when they are in season (about 6 glorious weeks). After berries, I enjoy local peaches when in season, with full-fat yogurt (3 more gluttonous weeks). Then it's back to Carnivore for the rest of the year. Vegetables and their fiber grind my digestive transit time to a near halt.

[@danielmccarthyy]

Dr. Scher is awesome.

[@dianelakata1308]

You didn’t mention ketones and their roll in health/disease prevention. I “chase ketones” for their neuroprotective benefit (family history of Alzheimer’s disease) and, hopefully, to reduce the risk of the return of colon cancer (as per Thomas Seyfried). I also had all the traditional treatments. The higher consumption of plants could interfere with that, right? Would be very interested in your (and everyone’s) thoughts about this. I am currently more “ketovore” than straight carnivore.

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

Apparently the body creates all the glucose it requires via gluconeogenesis. That eliminates the need to eat carbohydrate. Dr. Georgia Ede has provided research/evidence that fruit and vegetables contain a collection of toxins that are either not found in meat, or are found in extremely small amounts. The body makes anti-oxidants, too, so it is unnecessary to consume plants for their "anti-oxidant" value. Meat with fat contains all the nutrients a human needs, in roughly the correct proportions, and it is easily digested by our extremely acidic stomach acid. We don't digest plants, bacteria digest plants and we digest their excrement. If you tolerate plants and don't have any health issues, consuming some plants is probably not going to harm you. When I switched to pure carnivore a collection of health issues cleared up very quickly and I lost 40 pounds over 4 months, then weight stabilized and has remained constant since.

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

@@zlmdragon., I'm not sure what you were trying to tell me through that doctor's advertisement. For 300,000 years our ancestors were carnivorous and occasionally ate some vegetation. Then, during the last 15,000 years, our species has been experimenting with plants and farming. The Maasai in Africa and the Inuit in Canada's north eat a diet that is almost entirely animal based. To their detriment, most of the Inuit now have Western food shipped to them, but that is a very recent problem. An almost exclusively animal based diet is what we evolved to eat, all other diets are, by comparison, short term fad diets. I didn't mention salt as it was not part of the question. Salt is very important and with any luck you will know when you have either consumed too little or too much. Also, salt comes as a single item, salt, or as a refined product, salt with anti-clumping agents. The anti-clumping agent is poisonous in any quantity, so it is better to avoid those products. Vitamin D is necessary for regulation of the immune system, which is critical at this time. Vitamin D can be made by exposing sunlight to skin but you need strong sunlight, from betwee the equator and 37°, if you live north or south of that, you probably will need some dietary source. Vitamin D is consumed in about 15 days so you have to keep making or eating it. Vitamin D toxicity is extremely difficult to achieve. Since vitamin D is stored in fat, the fatter you are, the more vitamin D you need. The RDA is for rickets, you need a much higher level to achieve a "sufficient" level in your body.

[@stevec3872]

Alzheimer's. I'm 69 and my mother went into a nursing home at 69 with Alzheimer's and stayed there for 15 years until she died, or until her body stopped working because she really died years earlier when she no longer knew her children and her memories and experiences that made her a unique human being had disappeared. That is a major motivator for me to avoid such a fate, being a living and empty husk. I also am ketovore, mostly "vore".

[@dietdoctor]

Hi Diane, eating plants doesn't necessarily lower ketone levels. That would depend on the rest of your diet and the amount/type of plants you eat. Here is a more detailed guide to ketosis that may help www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/ketosis.

[@ascendtoaesthetics]

@@dietdoctor listen to Rhonda Patrick on her latest Joe Rogan experience...

[@shardlake]

Looking back at my childhood in the 70s fruit was something that only appeared at Christmas, normally in the form of Satsumas. Currently 1 month into a carnivore diet, feeling I have more focus and energy, was planning only to do for a month, now I plan to carry on, with the odd diversion for Xmas dinner... (Also lost 12lbs)

[@angelgirldebbiejo]

We rarely ate fruit either except in pies my grandma would bake.

[@dawnelder9046]

I was in Newfoundland as a small child in the early 60s. I remember Blueberries picking in the summer. At Christmas there were 2 cases of fruits. One with oranges, the other apples. All wrapped in dark purple papers. Big event when Dad brought them home. In my mind those cases were massive, but I would have been between 3 and 5 at that time. My grandmother lived in a massive home at that time, but somehow when I saw it as an adult it was much smaller. So those cases might have been smaller as well. I was 6 years old before I ever saw a banana.

[@scottw2317]

the original name for the fruit shop was a green grocer. Fruit was seasonal and didn't store as well as many vegetables. Up until the 1940s from about the late 18th century it was recognised in medicine that diabetes was a carbohydrate disorder and that people must avoid breads, grains in general and in particular fruit.

[@clifslonneger5340]

thx for the video 👍🏼

[@awm21awm21]

Everyone is different. Despite Diet Doctor's recent focus on satiety from protien, I have always achieved satiety primarily through volume. This means I need, and enjoy, the low calorie density of vegetables as a large portion of meals to maintain weight.

[@marilynbeth5993]

I feel fullness from volume myself. I eat large bowls of raw vegetables: a quart or more at a time. I love family size bags of cut up vegetables.

[@stephencullum8255]

I eat a few Barbados cherries and a occasionally star fruit. They are fairly low in fructose. Both home grown. Other wise I leave fruit alone.

[@viveviveka2651]

Thank you. It's unusual to find someone on YT who is being truly careful about the scientific evidence, and who is being true to it. There are too many propagandists out there.

[@krisjustin3884]

Could those of nordic origin be less tolerant of vegetables and grains and be more inclined to do better on carnivore diets? Perhaps their metabolism adapted like this in the cold climate that did not allow as much food to be grown in the soil. We also see people in the Mediterranean regions living very well off grains, vegetables and wine and less animal products. These two groups would make interesting subjects in studies like this.

[@donaldevanshennings7732]

Both groups would have very little processed food. There are not many veg patches around igloos.

[@viveviveka2651]

Peoples on the Tibetan Plateau also ate mostly animal foods.

[@viveviveka2651]

Peoples of the Tibetan Plateau also ate mostly animal foods.

[@katywuste9054]

Interesting and informative video. Fruit isn’t everybodies cup of tea so great that we don’t really need them

[@catherineball7584]

I love veggies and won't stop eating them as they make me feel better and improve my skin. However, the Inuit don't have such things in their diet and are perfectly healthy.

[@toni4729]

I had to illiminate plants because of a salicylate problem for more than thirty years. It hasn't gone but now I'm able to consume a few vegetables. I dare not eat anything with chemicals added, they made me so ill I was a mental and physical cripple for years before it was diagnosed. I thank the immunogist that saw the problem with tears in my eyes.

[@mrsmama9347]

Also, doctor , what is your opinion about the dried apples made at home totally without chemicals outside in the sun? Thank you

[@TX1836]

My favorite fruit in the world is the avocado. I do also enjoy blueberrys, and strawberrys , but very very rarely.

[@sheilasanderson9681]

Can you address the research on our gut microbiome in a future video? Advice for feeding good biota can seem to be at odds with low carb and keto.

[@janeknight3597]

I came across a passing comment to the effect that it was the cation of gut microbiota that made metformin “active” I would be interested to find out where that came from - my magazine article had no reference. So yes another vote for the biome!

[@scottw2317]

from what is understood I believe the saying is we know more on the surface of mars than on our gut biota.

[@scottw2317]

@@zlmdragon. you can only feed what you have. Even a diet poor in something for a microbe will generally only down-regulate it and if you don't have other beneficial ones then they cannot up-regulate. Other issues are such things like glysophate is a registered antibiotic and it used in so many plant food products. these will knock out certain strains allowing others like carb loving fermacuties to take over for example.

[@unpaintedleadsyndrome]

The people who eat less fruits and vegetables and are less healthy, what is the rest of their diet like? Highly processed foods? Correlation is not causation...

[@Glock20SF10mm]

Fan of a couple fruits: avocado, olives and their oils. Fruit oils:).

[@DailyDDD]

Hi. Just discovered your channel and am loving it. Pls my question might seem out of place here. Dr. I want to know if any food that can cause up 160 mgl/dl blood glucose spike after 1.30 minutes is right or better still what's the healthiest range of spike? Thanks

[@dietdoctor]

You may find this helpful! www.dietdoctor.com/blood-sugar

[@erickgonzalez244]

I really like your videos 👍

[@phelysarrian1814]

Never really liked veggies and fruits and forced to eat some for 50 years. - I am now 2 years plant-free thanks to Baker, and never felt so great and looking younger, less white hair, more muscles, better sight, no prostate hiccups, better memory ... everything just great on simple steak and eggs.

[@glasslinger]

I am keto 4 days a week, no starchy carbs. A better subject for a video would be "do you need grains." Or "do you need dairy." The farming industrial complex determines what is "deemed" necessary. Each will "adjust" the food pyramid to insure a good cash flow for their industry.

[@MT-sq3jo]

I agree. I’d add studies on, “do we need meat or animal protein”? Is vegan healthy? Longevity study of vegan vs keto vs carnivores vs Blue zones diets.

[@dawnelder9046]

@@MT-sq3jo Who's version of the blue zone diets. The Blue Zone book, like The China Study if full of lies. In Okinawa they did eat just like the book said. Right after the 2WW. It was called starvation. The USA sent in a lot of food to help the starving population. Including Spam, which is still loved by many there to this day. Yuck In reality their diet is high in fish, pork, and vegetables cooked in lard. Until the last few decades rice was rare because of their location. The book would also have you believe that the people who invented pepperroni, salami, feta, mozzarella, suvloki and cheese sauces for vegetables eat a mostly plant based diet. The Ansel Keys school of science. Cherry Picking 101. Make it fit. Forget the facts. I am personally a person who does fantastic on dairy. My genetics. If I am ill, I make real egg nog. Something my mother always gave me when ill as a child. It works for me. Always feel better. And there is nothing nicer than when the cows get outside in the spring and eat the fresh clover. You can taste it in the milk. You can also tell the difference between a cow fed hay in the winter and a cow fed the left over sludge from human crops. I have lived in a lot of areas. I understand in P.E.I. they feed them potatoes in the winter. I have never had the milk from there, so would have no idea how that effects taste. And as it turns out if you have looked at Allen Savorys work, they fix the damage of crop based agriculture. Add carbon to the soil. Fixes its ability of soil to retain water. And unlike plant based agriculture do not cause red tides and desertification. But I am much better off keeping the grains out of my diet. Not just the gluten ones, which really do me harm. Also need to keep the lugumes out as well. Not just the dried ones, or peanuts. Even things like green and yellow beans. I love them, but they are very abusive back. Yet if you come from the Middle East your ancestors had over 10,000 years to adjust to eating grass.

[@MT-sq3jo]

@@dawnelder9046 your view of the Asian diet also seems cherry picking. Growing up in one of the most prosperous cities in the Far East, people in my area never starved as you said, nor rice eating leading to a city full of obese people. Introduction of Western diet staples such as McDonalds and KFC, sadly, marked the beginning of general health decline of the population. You believe what you believe, I’ll continue to play the odds and follow the best examples available.

[@toni4729]

You can't be keto only four days a week. You would never get into keto that way.

[@TehKaiser]

@@dawnelder9046 The diet of the people in The China Study include very, very salty vegetables. The vegetables are pickled and thus tasty. The excessive myopia of such studies is culturally insensitive, along with the biased interpretation of data.

[@MsTony1402]

I totally envy folk who just eat fatty meat because that’s all that’s needed to effectively fuel a human body. Most of us other folk probably eat food because we enjoy what we’re eating. We enjoy veggies, we love the different tastes, we love the variety on our plates, we love the volume in our tummies that veg provides etc. How can one change their mindset to look at food just as a fuel source???

[@Metqa]

@@zlmdragon. Yup. when I have a delicious medium rare steak on my plate, I absolutely enjoy it. unless it was cooked poorly. then I'm sad. A very bad feeling is to have a belly full of volume and still not feel satisfied, like having drunk lots of water but still feeling thirsty or having eaten loads of high volume watery or fibrous matter and still feeling hungry. That's just a sad, pitiful feeling to me. I'd rather eat something I like that is delicious and fulfilling, not just filling, and be satisfied, than feel like I have to keep stuffing something in just to feel full but still feel hunger. I like salads, I like the ingredients in them, i like oil and vinegar and creamy dressings, and the fresh water fruits tomato, cucumber, bellpepper, but it's not the same as a serving of beef steak.

[@gabbar51ngh]

You can look at your food as fuel source & still enjoy it.

[@farmerjohn6526]

A lot of what's needed in fruits and vegetables is now in a supplement.

[@hemeheru6219]

You 100% need them both..Doc is speaking of Fruit from a stand point of people who are pre Diabetic or those who have Diabetes already, but if your eating properly from the beginning u get plenty of vitamins and nutrients from fruit..The problem is the WESTERN WORLD we believe we're right about everything and our unbelievable inability to not PROCESS food for convenience killed us so u cant eat alot of fruit because u get sugar in ur purchased Tomato sauces, Bread turns into sugar after u eat it, Tylenol has forms of sugar in soda etc etc..So if u base it on OUR SOCIETY then it's hard to eat something as natural as fruit because most things we produce is in a PACKAGE and will mostly turn into sugar after you eat it...So the problem isn't the fruit because people were eating fruit before processing food and putting sugar into things and hiding the facts..The problem is us meaning the Western cultures..Convenience is the problem..Feed a kid fruits and Vegetables in a country the does have alot of process food and they will be great...

[@cyndimanka]

So the high-fiber low-carb vegetables have a lot of oxalis so there’s so much to watch out for. They told us to eat salads and drink green smoothies and then people had issues and didn’t know why

[@OIOnaut]

Please Explain the significance of the Ranle Cycle focus on the mechanism of a moderate (tri-macronutrient mixed) diet vs. pure binary diet i.e. protein + carbs vs. Protein +animal fats excluding Omega6 LA->4HNE-> plant derived industrial oils.

[@robertwalker1849]

I am 76 and have been a Type 2 Diabetic since I was 60 years old, I followed the NZ dietary guidelines which are based on the American one and have been badly wrong Their Diabetic recommend diet is even worse, On December 1 2019 I started on Keto, and I lost weight from day one by cutting out Bread Potatoes, Rice, and Pasta, I have slowly whittled down the Vegetables as well I hardly eat any Fruit, If I do eat Vegetables my blood sugar spikes higher and for longer than when I don't, I like to eat some vegetables in moderation even potatoes I have them once a month and I make a Hamburger once a month so two bad meals out of 30 is not too bad, I get slight bloating from the Burger Bun but not the Potato, The last time I ate a Fast food Burger I felt off colour for three days, I do feel much better without Fruit and Vegetables if I need to lose a little weight I fast for 36 or 48 hours easily shed a kilo in 48 hours, i like your videos watch most of them and learnt quite a lot from them, Also follow Ken Berry and Shawn Backer and Jason Fung you need to be well-informed these days with so many con artists around trying to sell snake oil.

[@bighands69]

I think the volume consumed of higher carb vegetables and fruits matter. Consuming on occasion will be fine for the majority of people and may offer benefits. Eating them every single meal is a completely different matter though.

[@mrsmama9347]

Thank you for the video, doctor. I wonder if it is possible that a person on a moderate keto diet gets higher than normal insulin ( 7 in reference) level after 2 months ?

[@anomamos9095]

Long before I became overweight and type two diabetic I went on a health kick where I ate less meat and fat and a lot more fruit etc I got sick and fat so I went back to eating what was my normal unhealthy diet which while a lot lower in fruit and veg still had too many carbohydrates in the form of starchy vegetables like potatoes breads and porridge. One of my favourite foods is a bacon and egg sandwich with tomato sauce using plain white bread. I have not had bread in over two years since being on keto but I saw an ad for low carb bread and tried it. BIG MISTAKE! While not being anywhere near as nice as I remember it because the bread tasted awful after eating about six slices in total I was ill and I’m not a coeliac.

[@scottw2317]

not tried chaffles then?

[@anomamos9095]

@@scottw2317 considering I have no clue what chafels are I cannot say that I have

[@scottw2317]

@@anomamos9095 chaffles are basically egg and a grated cheese like mozzarella that are mixed together and added to a greased waffle maker to make a keto/carnivore waffle. You can add other ingredients but this is the simplest one you can work from there. There are so many recipes on youtube to look up if you are interested

[@anomamos9095]

@@scottw2317 . I have tried something like that but not in a waffle maker. Considered the cheese and grated cauliflower version for a pizza base. The thing about the bacon and egg sandwich is that the taste is iconic and so simple that any alterations in ingredients spoil it and turn it into a quiche.

[@carnivore_scalper]

On fiber. I just finished this book written by a naturopath on removal of toxins from the body and he stated that fiber is essential to remove non-water soluble toxins through stool. If this is correct, that would be one (the only?) reason to keep eating fibrous plants.

[@Shauntomac]

Ray peat recommends raw carrot for that

[@loganwolv3393]

Well, tbh i really like the low carb fruits though... like passion fruit, blackberries, raspberries, pomengranates.

[@renantejosesiguiente1442]

What is recommended diet for a BPH patients?

[@rainermaelger4726]

Danke !

Much of what people consider vegetables are fruits: _Capsicum_ peppers, cucumbers, eggplants, string beans, summer and winter squashes, pumpkins, tomatoes, avocados, olives, okra pods, etc.

[@shreyarao2106]

I'm keen on your video on the environmental impact of carnivore and/or high animal protein products. I wonder about this myself

[@dietdoctor]

We have a 3 part series on our website you might be interested in! www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/green-keto-meat-eater-part-1

[@yasminwalid4234]

@@dietdoctor if everybody eats animal based diets this can't be sustainable by anyway speaking about population also some people of low economic status can't afford an animal based diet

[@matthewalexandersayers4470]

Nope, haven't eating a vegetable in 7-8 months.

[@TigerCarpenter]

I am 52 and I never ate vegetables (yes I did not to offend the host of some event sometimes), so on average I ate 95% of the meat and 5% of walnut and some rare occasions when I had no choice but to eat some form of vegetable. yes I do put mustard or some chili/spices in my meat. I never got sick even once in my 52 years of life. neither my 46 years old bother, nor my parents who also never eat vegetables. our families live at least 90-95 years old and are top fit physically and mentally to the last day of their life. they simply die out of very old age. I did go for 30 days vegan challenge couple of years ago, to please some people and to check it out of for myself. I had zero energy to train or to work. I felt like my cognitive capabilities were severely impaired, I wanted to sleep all day to preserve the energy. I felt dizzy and unwell. bloated, farting uncomfortably all day. I also had diarrhea the whole month. I never managed to form a solid stool in the vegan month. I actually could hardly swallow the vegetables, I had vomiting reflexes while eating vegetables. no matter how much I ate, I was always hungry and weak. I feel like eating vegetables is a form of punishment. after a month of vegan punishment, it took me 72 hours of eating raw meat, to fully recover from being malnourished and unwell. I also drink a lot of real cow fresh milk, and I eat 4-6 eggs a day. I drink 1 real ground beans coffee in the morning without sugar or milk. I drink water with real lemon juice squeezed into it (half lemon for 1.5 liters of water). there you have it. go vegan! NOT!

[@testforall555]

Would you please if possible to explain the difference between the types of study like randomized control trial vs observational study vs case-control study vs others. Thank you. Mohamed

[@dietdoctor]

Hi Mohamed, we do have a helpful guide that discusses observational vs. experimental studies you may be interested in! www.dietdoctor.com/observational-vs-experimental-studies Should you be curious to dive a bit deeper into which types of scientific studies provide stronger evidence, you can also read through this policy www.dietdoctor.com/about/policy-for-grading-scientific-evidence

[@testforall555]

@@dietdoctor Thank you

[@Bankai90]

All I found from studies that with the more fruit the better. Yet no veggies = bad. Much veggies = also bad. Probably due to pesticide load. But fruits usually do good, even for diabetics. Sugar isn't rly any issue. Fructose isolated obviously is. As much as I personally love low carb. The data isn't that in favor of it at all

[@throrth]

I could have written the review by Christina A. Over 90% plant free for almost 2 years. A1c 5.5 Cholesterols all in heathy range. Have to admit I have not been as successful at losing weight but feel good. I will be 69 in April.

[@harryvandermerwe4604]

The recent Harvard study on carnivore longer term was favourable.

[@donaldevanshennings7732]

Any references? Please

[@jasonito23]

@@donaldevanshennings7732 - There is no such thing.

[@ninadperiodon]

5:22 Correct me if I am wrong? High protein moderate fat OR high fat & moderate protein?

[@jaypee525]

siriusisastar asked and I repeat How about exploring the plant defenses/anti-nutrients found in most vegetables such as phytic acid, oxalates, lectins and other endocrine disruptors? Also, the lack of bio-availability with most. More and more data is skewing this way.

[@redmine5568]

Actually we don’t need fruits and vegetables, we just need sugar. -BIG PHARMA and THE SUGAR COMPANY

[@krayziejerry]

These 100 percent carnivores are hilarious, one said that there had never been one vegetable proven with health benefits 🤣

[@67Stu]

Excellent video❣️ I've been one who has always had problems with a high fiber diet. If I didn't know that you were a doctor, I would swear you were a rabbi. 😜

[@jeanbaker1639]

After eating "normal" balanced diet for 60 years my outbreak to oxalate and lectins forced me to stop eating especially green vegetables. A painful and serious health crash, my main meal is all carnivore. Thankyou for your video. I'm sure it's not some can & some can't do vegetables, It's how long your body takes to sarcoma to the toxins in vegetables & fruit

[@beardumaw24]

When I was eating the SAD American diet I was eating lots of vegetables. Always has irritable bowel problems bloating and constipation. I developed prediabetes and so I switched to ketovore elimination diet. I eat mostly meats eggs cheese. Cut out every thing else. My health improves within weeks, bloating gone ! irritable bowel symptoms gone! I started introducing some grains vegetables and started to get bloating again. found out i can only eat asparagus artichokes and a few low sugar berries. Absolutely no grains, or high suger fruits or high fiber hi oxalate vegetables. I feel my best on a ketovore diet and my blood tests are excellent.

[@SnowyRVulpix]

I can count the number of times I've eaten fruit (Not including fruit culinarily called vegetables) over the past decade on my fingers. Not a lot of times... and I'm doing well. Don't really need natures candy bars.

[@dawnelder9046]

I love berries in season. Even the odd bit of homemade apple sauce on pork. Pineapple on the ham at Easter great. I limit fruit when I do have it. I consider a treat, nothing else. I have also gone months without fruit and do just fine.

[@keylanoslokj1806]

Not even nature's. Most is hybridised nby humans af

[@aH-qq2us]

I'm a sugar addict and I am on keto for nearly 4 weeks . I had 2 days when I went sugar binge eating and both times it started after small fruit snack

[@judymiller5154]

I've often said I can go from 1/2 and orange to a whole bag of cookies! Any sugar triggers cravings.

[@mrazik131]

yes me too, I got frozen jackfruit and ate the whole bag at one sitting while watching tv no I just can't control it... good to hear im not the only one lol

[@butchknapp8822]

I’m not a fan of fruit at all. I tried going carnivore but had constipation problems. Green vegetables dose help considerably.

[@dchoi99]

There’s always a bit of a transition phase when suddenly changing diets. Your whole body systems have to adapt. Try again and give it some time.

[@MeatMikeD]

I went carnivore about 16 weeks ago. It took 12 weeks on carnivore for the IBS-D to stop. I added almonds into my diet and my IBS-D returned. Back to carnivore. I am testing re-introducing foods now, so far meat/eggs/dairy are things I can handle. I went 13 years with IBS-D and the specialists and medications could not help. They would have me stop eating one thing (say eggs) for 2 weeks to see if that helped. Turns out it was all a total waste of time as it never would have been long enough or strict enough to determine anything of value. So far on carnivore, I have not been this healthy in decades and my research shows meat only diets give me 100% of all my RDA for all vitamins and nutrients (vit C is sometimes low, but sometimes I get over 100% of rda as well - way more than a carnivore needs - I mix in some spleen/thymus/testicles/lungs into the diet to get more than enough Vit C overall). There are certainly plant foods (like Almonds or sunflower seeds for vit E) that have much easier and efficient access to large amounts of some vitamins (C,E,B9) and I would prefer some more flexibility in my diet, but it hardly seems like it is necessary to add in plants (of course, who would not want to add in some chocolate every once in a while!).

[@ayazing456]

Try benfotiamine(fat soluble b1)/vitamin d/k2/omega 3(supplements and/or fish) and fermented food like water/milk kefir sauerkraut. Dose it per feeling as needed and drop what doesn't work.

[@krayziejerry]

How is your constipation? I imagine an all meat Dietz you would hardly get any smooth bowel movements.

[@MeatMikeD]

@@krayziejerry As noted, I had severe diarrhea for 13 years. I have zero constipation and my severe diarrhea has been cured. I go once or twice a day. I can still have loose stools, or hard pellets range, depending on the amount of fat I eat the day before. FYI, fiber causes constipation, a lack of fiber returns your bowels to optimum.

[@prismak7607]

Fruit has not the toxins of many vegetables so I think replacing fruit with vegetables can be harmful. Plants don't defend fruit with toxins because animals eating them help spreading the seeds. Still they need to be eaten with moderation.

[@donaldevanshennings7732]

Some fruits have poisons like deadly nightshade for example. Maybe the plant only wants certain animals to eat them. Modern fruits have been selectively bred to increase the amount of fructose.