Digimon Theory: Original Chosen Children...Digimon Frontier?

[@ronbartolome8333]

There's one fact that is consistent throughout the frontier series that made me assure that the series happened before digimon adventures 01 and 02. Remember what they said about armor digivolving? They said it was an ancient technique of digivolving and only veemon, armadillomon and hawkmon can do it. The three were considered somewhat "extinct" digimon in season 1 and 2 but they were abundant in frontier. Also, most of the digimons there were armor digimons only armor digivolved with different digi-armors... So there... Plus the first five that gennai were probably takuya and the gang since koichi is only a spirit... So there. :))

[@yyyrational]

Ron Bartolome can u explain Sagitarimon?

[@TrustDevon]

digimon frontier could start it all because the 5 chosen kids went in, did all their fighting saved the world and came back, since the world didn't have the guardian digimon anymore and new evils were made from the leftover dark data from frontier new guardian digimon were chosen, azulongmon and the other 3, which for the most part all appear in season 1/2/3. at the end of adventure 2 Kari become a teacher and t.k a writer. t.k sells his story for whatever reason and it becomes the show on season 3 and kari is the teacher from season 3( not confirmed, just saying this because of similar voice actor) seasons 1 thru 4 can be related and on one earth just different locations of the earth, like different continents.. season 4 happen first. 5 kids defeat evil, new evil comes along, messes up time barrier so time passes quickly in digital world, then adventure 1 starts, then 2, then 3 in a different part of the world..

[@chrisclack4258]

mr or miss Poncho Pacman one small problem digimon tamer is from A separate universe from digimon season one and season two matter of fact all digimon series are all separate from each digimon series and all digidestined seeing of how tai and david and there teams and digimon partners should of helped with defeating the dereaper why the dereaper was on earth on the digimon tamer digimon series

[@chrisclack4258]

and plus mr or miss Poncho Pacman the original digidestined digimon partners are huanglongmon and baihumon and azulongmon and zhuqiaomon and megadramon who rookie form is tapirmon and it was never ever ever mentioned that azulongmon and the others for had digidestined partners on the digimon tamer anime at all mr or miss Poncho Pacman

[@chrisclack4258]

mr Poncho Pacman Ryo od digimon tamer is some how traveling from the digimon tamer universe to the universe from digimon season one and digimon season two i forgot to point that out mr Poncho Pacman

[@Deathmare235]

I think they should have a digidestined in one universe but cause there’s way too much enemies they have to split the universe maybe 2 of them are Izzy’s parents and they send him to the Adventures universe

[@lavuntecolquitt]

EXCELLENT theory. I've thought this for a long time myself after watching Frontier the 1st time.

[@MrBankaikenshin]

All confirmed for being different universe's. Xros Wars simply enforced this during the crossover special with every leader. Debunked.

[@kevinreyhan209]

+MrOathFlame nope, not really takuya only said that 'they (taichi and daisuke) are from same world but different time, he didnt said that 'he (takuya) came from different world', the fact is maybe tai and daisuke didnt realize his ancestor at all

[@KingofBeasts444]

NoOne Alive it is actually.

[@MrBankaikenshin]

Lol no. Old clockshop man said "I called upon heroes from another dimensions and timelines here" Debunked.

[@azuresaiyan9005]

MrOathFlame Tai and Davis debunk your debunking.

[@captiandrago]

MrOathFlame I'm sorry but I can't see an idiotic statement and no comment on it no offense but one is never you School yourself they could not have all been from different universes just because of both Thi and Davis also the only one confirmed to be a different universe is from Digimon Tamer all the rest could be from the exact same universe

[@leejames929]

when you said ancestors you meant descendants right? just wanted to make sure im understanding the video

[@brenokv]

Maybe that or that since they were the megas reincarnated, he is emplying that yes patamon and gatomon are legit warheroes of ancient fucking times

[@Dudepatrol47]

It’s also worth noting that while the silhouettes of the Original Digidestined are just the silhouettes of Tai and the others, after Koichi’s spirit/soul returns to his body in the real world, the number of Humans and Digimon in both the silhouettes and Frontier matches exactly. The silhouette shows four human boys (Takuya, Koji, JP, and Tommy), one human girl (Zoe), and 5 Digimon (Bokomon, Neemon, Patamon, Salamon, Lopmon).

[@LordZeromaru]

@TheQueenAretha Only in the US version. In the original version, the are called "Tamers", while the Adventure's character are called "Erabareshi Kodomo" (Chosen Child).

[@EternityinOurHearts316]

I had this theory myself when I first watched Frontier.

[@jamespickup7177]

Same

[@mayhemx9]

Same

[@3WayPlaythroughs]

I do think it's plausible. Another part of this theory I've heard is that the Koromon that Tai and Kari met back in the original first movie somehow returned to the Digital World when it fought Parrotmon, and that it went on to become Takuya's beast spirit (which matches the timeframe, since the four years between the movie and the show would be countless eons in the Digital World). I find this part less likely, but it's interesting to think about.

[@senaykaraman618]

İ did not watch it but its wrong how i know? Gennai tells there was 5 kids and their DİGİMON PARTNERS but frontier kids dont have digimon partners btw digimon adventure and frontier are in diffenert universes

[@abhranilgangopadhayya7953]

I agree with this theory. After Lucemon's corruption the DigiWorld had lost most of its data, but after he was defeated for good it was rebuilt into its original form....meaning a new world entirely (resembling the old original one). And of course Spirit Evolution is obviously more primitive and basic than having partners or anything else.

[@thatguy779]

Well I personally believe that the digidestined from the first season are the originals because in the first episode, Agumon and other digimon comment on how they are "the first ever, there's never been anything but digimon here".

[@amytong8656]

Its an interesting theory, but I really doubt it. After all, in the digimon frontier, everything is made of digicode, and even when the digiworld was being reborn, it was being reborn from digicode. In digimon adventure, there's no trace of digicode.

[@danieo1210]

Nice vid as always. I have some thoughts that may further boost this theory. as we know at the end of frontier the digital world is destroyed, and most life with few exceptions is wiped out for thus being reborn into digitama. Meaning most digimon in the digital world has to hatch into fresh(baby) level and evolve from there on out. But with close to none strong(er) digimon existing, digivolution is a difficult task. Because as being hinted to various times, fighting other digimon is a huge factor to digivolve, mostly after rookie(child) level that is. with every digimon weak, there is no big bad digimon to hunt the weaklings around, pushing them into evolving stronger and better (evolution lifecycle). The digimon were having an easy time in other words, no need for evolution. And that´s where the boost in theory comes in, for if you look at the backstory for why the digimentals(diggieggs) came to be, it was exactly because of the digital world being young (which it was, since it´s a new world), so the deities(be that the Sovereigns, Yggdrasil or whomever god Seraphimon claims to serve) created the eggs to make it possible for digimon to digivolve, and restore balance. So all in all, it wouldn´t be farfetched to think that Frontier is in the same universe. quote from wiki: Armor Digivolution (アーマー進化 Āmā Shinka?, lit. "Armor Evolution") is the fusion of a Digimon with a Digi-Egg (デジメンタル Digimentaru?, "Digimental"). It is featured in Digimon Adventure 02. It is an ancient form of Digivolution that was developed when the Digital World was young and it was almost impossible to digivolve even to the Champion level without assistance. It is later used in Digimon Adventure 02, when the Digimon Emperor's D-3 and the presence of Control Spires prevent Digimon from Digivolving to the Champion level. digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Armor_Digivolution#Armor_Digivolution

[@AlphosNZ]

As you find out in Xros Wars all the seasons are from different dimensions except for Digimon Adventure 1 and 2 they're just in different times.

[@antitheist3206]

Here's a Digimon timeline I came up with. This is based on what i have observed and constructed with my current knowledge of the current anime canon. The words in parentheses are the Japanese titles. the ones i could find at least. Fusion (Xros Wars) > Frontier > Adventure > Adventure 02 > Tamers > Data Squad (Savers) That's what we have so far.

[@IamImplex]

That makes a lot of sense actually. Just that the original digidestined were responsible for sealing Apocalypmon(the main bad guy in Adventure, spellcheck?) Which didn't happen in frontier

[@sockaponch]

Now to follow this up, the reboot looks like this theory can be true over there cuz there r some returning Digimons from frontier like Neemon and also they showed the celestial triad for the first time. If they r creating a Digimon universe with frontier and tamers as prequel and sequel respectively

[@josephcross6227]

Well, something that really bothers me in digimon frontier is the great number of armor-level digimon that appears in this season. I mean, only six species of digimon (v-mon, wormmon, armadillomon, hawkmon, tailmon and patamon) were supposed to armor-digivolve but at the same time they were supposed to be rare, so, I don't know if Toei was just trying to show more digimon species or there are a real meaning behind this

[@pokeEUReKA]

I think its possible. The 0'4 kids needed the trailmon to travel to and from the digi world instead of computers, suggesting the barrier between the two worlds is strong, and that is the only passage because Apacalymon and the other evil digimon haven't weakened it. I think because Koichi wasn't there for the final battle and most of the series, as the story of the legendary warriors were passed down it got messed up and Koichi was forgotten :( It also had them fighting apocalymon instead.

[@blairwest5962]

The actual thing is the digital world is actually a dimension(not just a planet). Remember the episode in frontier where they actually go to moon and see the planet they were on and the stars. Season 1 and 2 were on the same planet whereas season 3 and 4 were on different ones. I believe the reason that digimon is a cardgame is season 3 is because the others from the first two seasons actually came back and (one of them) started the stories of digimon. The digital world is the entire internet. That would give us a good reason to assume that it's more than just one planet that's constantly changing.

[@jonahstafford7643]

What if about 50 years happen between seasons 2 and 3 and after the "happy ending" a new catastrophe emerged between the two worlds, the digimon were sent back to their world, and the story of the "Digimon Adventure" became a show to reprogram the citizens that digimon are fictional creatures.

[@TrippNessa]

Well according to Gennai; an evil being came through the wall, was eliminated by the original chosen, and now another has come (Apocalymon). Yamato talks about how the original chosen beat the same creature before, as though it was Apocalymon both times. But then after that wonders how the chosen before them defeated their enemy, as though it was a different being the first time. It confused me, but I do agree that Lucemon doesn't exactly distort time like that.

[@DavisXKen]

I think it went 4 Huge gap 1/2 Smaller gap 3 The reason the frontier kids may not have helped (if 4 comes before 1) is because (as stated about 100 times in season one) the digiworld may only let in certain digidestined. Like tai and Matt and the others couldn't open the portal to the digi world but davis could. So takuya and friends may not be allowed in at that moment because they have served their purpose in the digi world and would need a d3 to get in. Ryo's appearance throughout the seri

[@kevinschupp9815]

In a way, this could be true. BUT must also remember, in Digimon Frontier, there were 10 spirits, not 6.. the other 4 were corrupted. Now with the digital world being destroyed and then rebuilt, it could be what caused Apolycomon to come into being, the leftover of the original digital world. The change in how it looks and digimon interact could also be because of how much time went by... Remember again, in Adventure 01, we find out that the digital world time is accelerated because of a problem with the firewall caused by Apolycomon. Also, the original adventure digidestined digimon were specially created by the order of light.. their eggs were infused with the power of the crests (which was shown to us when Kari was taking over by that ghost and explained that background story in 01) As for the power of the crests, which were suppose to come from the original digidestined.. it would make sense that since their are 9 crests (Courage, Friendship, Love, Knowledge, Sincerity, Honesty, Hope, Light, and Kindness[Ken's which we find out in 02]), where did the 9 crests come from? Supposedly they were the left over positive energy from the original digidestined, as stated in the show, BUT in the digimon movie it's stated that the crests power came from when they witnessed the Greymon vs Parrotmon fight. Now another thing to remember, in 02 we find out that Ken's brother DID go to the digital world too as a digidestined, and that's how the dark spore infected Ken.. so was Ken's brother an original failing digidestined? (supposedly Ken's brother and Ryo were there) It's a plothole, that really can't be fixed, they gave evidence that the original digidestined were Ryo and Ken's brother, but the whole Frontier idea also works out, actually better, but when the digimon invaded in 01 and 02, if the Frontier kids were the original digidestined, then they would have been helping.. but we never see them (granted it's because they were not thought of), so that's a hole in the story.

[@jpsingh13]

Im pretty sure that it was stated that most of the seasons are in alternate universes. Adventure 1 and 2 are in one universe and in an alternative universe then earth season after that has it's own universe separate from each other.

[@MstEli]

I like this theory. We know that alternate universes exist in the Digimon universe, but connecting Frontier to Adventure and 02 makes it less of an orphan in how it relates to the rest. At least with Tamers, they made it clear from the very beginning that in that universe Adventure and 02 were fiction.

[@ch2010ize]

Frontier clearly takes place in then present day 2002 (same year Zero Two takes place) and there ended up being 6 kids in Frontier not just 5 and the flashback in Adventure showed 5 kids with Digimon.

[@TrippNessa]

It's hard for me to give examples because I haven't watched Adventure in sooooo long lol, but I LOVED the soundtrack from Our War Game (Children's War Game in Japanese). The song "Requiem" was amazing during the scene when Omegamon (Omnimon) is born. But oh man I have to tell you, so in the Japanese version when TK (Takeru) is facing Puppetmon (Pinocchimon), the dub cut out the scene where Pinocchimon pulls out a hand gun and shoots it like five times at Takeru! I was shocked when I saw it.

[@OnlineAdel]

The Original DigiDestend fought against Apocalymon and won. The DigiDestend got inspiration from that event that Apocalymon has been defeated by the original group. "If they could so can we" I rewatched season one not to long ago now and found counterevidance of this... the original DigiDestend have never been starred. Also as inaccurae as the picture was there was still digimon standing near the DigiDestend and they was in a different village where digimon used to be born compared to frontier.. If they wanted frontier to be the same they'd use atleast the same village and gives the DigiDestend their partner digimon to back up that theory. If frontier had all that and a the same big bad as season one with the only flaw being the picture children looking like Tai, Matt..... then yeah it would have been possible but with all that countering it otherwise... not really...

[@Death_Scythe88]

+Adel Humadi Yes. I just finished Adventure 1 and they said that they didn't fail, and they if the originals did then so can they! I also believe that Gennai said that the world will start over AGAIN and once the balance has shifted to dark again that they will call more Digidestined... or something along those lines!

[@MJ-vr8gg]

If I remember correctly, the silhouettes surrounded by eggs are tai and his crew when they found that digi egg daycare area. does anyone remember the show??

[@dragonsoul0]

I'm still convinced that most of the individual season are separate timelines. Adventures 1 & 2 being one, Tamers being another, then Frontier another, Data Squad, then Xros Wars.

[@animelovers000]

nope apart from seasons 1 and 2 all the other seasons are in separate universes

[@TrippNessa]

Look at it this way. Matt's dad had just been attacked by a swarm of Gazimon, ran home, made Matt wake up to go hide in the emergency stairs. Matt brings Gabumon along, and when the scene cuts back, Matt and his dad are like "I don't know what's going on!". So they had already been talking, and Gabumon is there now. Chances are Matt introduced them along the way and his dad was too stressed at the time to really question it. That's what I always figured anyway.

[@hoshidoryo2471]

that really does seem possible when I think about. I've just never put that much thought into until now

[@dakidkossreturns]

Makes sense few technology used in season 4..

[@TechtraColour]

Didn't they have modern cell phones, though? Which the Digimon Adventure team didn't. So on the real world side of things, don't know that the timelines fit.

[@eduardotejeda-polanco8014]

The reason why frontier could have been the first digi-destined is because the digital world is data therefore when you enter data you can enterit any given moment in time go through the data and skim it like a book. So frontier was born after adventures but they enter the digital world at its early stages of creation.

[@3Bismyname]

well it does make sense cause theres also the fact that the ppl of new frontier dont know anything about digimon whereas if all the events from the first 3 digimon series there r several occasions where the world learns about digimon. the 3rd series even has a card game based around them.

[@Jamie-ef9dl]

SPIRITS OF KOJI AND TAKUYA ARE EMPEROR GREY MON AND MAGNA GARURUMON... DECEDNDANTS OF GARURUMON AND GREYMON NOT THE FIRST

[@Digidestind12]

+HeroEpic Actually its the other way around.

[@Jamie-ef9dl]

In the movie it says how there spirits were descendants of THE real ones

[@Digidestind12]

+HeroEpic watch it again it literally is the other way around

[@RuneRelations]

+HeroEpic if the Digimon doesnt have the word Ancient (the Ancient versions of the sprits fought Lucemon out 10 8 lost with Ancient Greymon and Ancient Garurumon sealing Lucemon away in the end) in front of it then its a new Digimon made by stealing everyone elses Spirt to Digivolve to a stronger version of Mega they already have honestly I think they went the cheap route with the show with Magna Garrurumon and Emperor Greymon (though kinda makes since they are the only 2 to survive and all) wish everyone got Ancient Sprit evolutions instead. (But they probably werent made yet or to much work to make 6 more character designs)

[@mattwo7]

+HeroEpic The real ones were the ancient mega stage versions, AnchientGreymon and AnchientGarurumon. They have literally zero ties to Digimon Adventure.

[@umbreonanime9490]

i realized this that if you look hard the digimon in the pichure of the oraginal look a slite bit like, bokomon, nanmon, patamon, salamon, and lopmon. they are the only real digimon that travel with the kids

[@jewellia7777]

I always thought the same thing because of the word "frontier" and the 5 people. But it feels like it was just me hoping there was some connection to my fav first 2 seasons. At the same time it felt a bit unbelievable since the frontier season looks all modern with the kids in the first episode on their cellphones (from what I remember, and did they turn into digivices?) and season 1 and 2 they didnt have cellphones so it looked more oldschool

[@daniellemiller3611]

yes, yes there phones turned in to digivices

[@JustAnotherAccountHere]

Combine this with Protomario's video of the "true" first digidestine, then it might be legit. Also, I noticed that someone pointed out the Trailmon factor and logically it is possible that they died out. Before anyone flames me for this please note that 1: there was a Trailmon graveyard in frontier and 2: bokomon said that digimon species have died out before referring to the elusive/rare Murmuskmon in Island of Lost Digimon

[@gingerking9247]

It is a nice theory however if you remember correctly they drop subtle hints in Digimon adventures that Matt and Tk's dad was one of the original digi destined and none of them from Digimon frontier have the same last name as Matt and Tk. So how does that fit with your theory?

[@kennethtasker7089]

Adoption

[@MasonMoves]

Personally, I think back to when Matt's dad actually knew who Gabumon was. I think that his dad and a few other people who had worked for the game (like Henry's dad from season three) were actually the first Digidestined. There is a rumor that they failed, and their kids came to help out, but that doesn't make sense, since there were only five original Digidestined... We Digimon fans must put our heads together and execute the powers of our knowledge (tried to make a season four joke... didn't work...)

[@TheCinemaniac]

+Melo SVG Adventure (Seasons 1&2) and Tamers(Season 3) took place in different continuities so Matt's dad and Henry's dad couldn't have worked together on the project that created the digital world.

[@uriel9777]

+Melo SVG in season 3 the seasons 1 and 2 were tv shows or something like that so...

[@MasonMoves]

Just Another Guy sorry my sister went on my profile!

[@TrippNessa]

Yes but then in the following episode Matt's father sees Garudamon and Greymon and freaks out, thinking they're monsters, and has no idea what evolution is in relation to Digimon when Izzy tries to explain it all to him. So I think it's more likely that Matt had just told his father Gabumon's name, and his father didn't quite get that he was a Digimon, or what Digimon were at the time.

[@SharaRaizel]

I actually LOVE this theory. even thought the use of cell phone kinda throws a wrench in the works i think overall that it's a really good theory. in fact, I actually use this theory in my more recent fan fic Drowning Memories where Frontier actually takes place 8 years before one year after 02 (basically 4 before 01). It's a fun theory and as a digimon fan fic writer i just love ideas like this. i'd love to hear any other season crossover theories as well.

[@Binnieth]

Ryo also appeared for a couple of seconds in Our War Game.

[@jimmyyoung2048]

I finished frontier recently and I thought the exact same thing about half way through so I'm glad when I KZbin searched Digimon Facts this was the second post

[@TrippNessa]

In the dub yes, not the original Japanese version though. The dub changed countless dialogue lines, and anything changed in that manner can't really be considered as canon. In the original Yamato (matt) does not say that, and Hiroaki (his father) says "Gabumon-kun, was it? Be careful." And then he leaves. Yamato never says anything to indicate it being strange that his father knew Gabumon.

[@tanimchowdhury6651]

Remember this fact: The original digidestined HAD DIGIMON. Those digimon turned into the 4 Digimon Soverigns.

[@LordZeromaru]

This is only theory. Tought are relationed, both series occurs in a different timeline, and even, the Digimon Adventure graphics novels confirms that there are none connections between Adventure and Frontier elements...

[@terrelll.frazier435]

that would explain why all the armor digimon being around in that season. its an ancient evolution processing

[@syfqkuro]

This could be legit tho.

[@terrelll.frazier435]

Yes it could be.

[@syfqkuro]

+Terrell Frazier At least it gives us some ight to how come armor-evolution is ancient.

[@terrelll.frazier435]

Yes

[@jonahstafford7643]

I think that the series all simultaneously take place in different dimensions, created by the digital world's existence in which different sets of people are chosen to save their respective version if the digital world. The digimon show and tcg in Tamers shows that this original version of the digital world and human world slips the events of the second digidestined, and is likely the most unstable

[@supasphoje]

its kind of strange that in digimon the movie (or more specificly the first digimon 02 movie) had patamon and gatomon digivolve to their mega levels. patamon was seraphimon but gatomon became magnadramon instead (which resembles angwomon in no way at all) thought the movie is non cannon. Also, If the digimon frontier kids were the first to enter the digital world, why weren't they able to help the season1 digidestens? thought the theory does point out a lot of similarities between the 2 series.

[@bluewayfinder]

I don't really think that takuya and the others can be the first digidisted, because the 5 children in that image had digimon partners next to them, I actually think that it they MIT Tai, Izzy, Sora, Matt and TK's parent, mostly because that Matt's dad knows about gabomon.☺

[@jac0736]

02 and Tamers take place in a way that claims everything in Adventure is a TV show, yet Ryo is present in both. This makes me see Digimon as a big multiverse. If any of you read DC's Multiversity, one of the first things they play with is that some universes write out other actual universes stories as regular comics. This doesn't retcon that universe as just a story, it's still it's own universe, but a different universe writes its story thinking it's fiction. If Digimon's multiverse plays by those same rules, and the fact that there's a digital world in tamers while its residents thought it was all fiction suggests it does, then that's how it makes sense for everyone to show up in Xros/Fuion without any plot hole showing up. It also means that Frontier could be its own separate universe disconnected from everything, or going a different route the digital world might be the one thing that actually binds all these universes as a nexus point, meaning they're separate universes but can all be in each other's cannon due to taking place in the digital world. No matter what though, the original children beat Apoclymon, so unless there's a story about the Frontier kids beating him (sealing behind a firewall) then they aren't the originals.

[@ItsTechnicallyMagic]

+JAC 073 I agree. It makes more sense for it to be a multiverse. This video's theory is destroyed simply by the fact that the Frontier kids have cellphones in a similar design to what the adventure kids use in Tri, thus making the events of Frontier happening before Adventure impossible.

[@justincanu9153]

The first two seasons being a tv show in three was only something they added in the dub, tamers only ever had the video game and the cards that went with it, otherwise it has no connection to the first two seasons. But yeah if they decide to create a larger world building canon then they'll likely go down the multiverse route with all of their dimensions connected via their own individual digital worlds and a singularity underneath it all connecting the worlds together. Too bad we can't retcon data squad and fusion from the canon if they do that.

[@jeffreywilliams8499]

Happy 25th anniversary to Digimon Animation series

[@ReaLx2006]

Funny I thought the exact same thing. I still think the frontier chosen were the first humans to touch the digital world. Except their adventure in fact takes place in a different universe then all the rest. But if the theory stands, Frontier happens long, long before Tai's generation.

[@RuneRelations]

or just maybe its a different canon, but if it is true what happened to the Spirts themselves guess you can say they found rest after Lucemons defeat or something. I myself like the ideas to prequels to long running series its like this what happened before the day was saved.

[@ViewerOnline101]

I've heard this theory before, and it's wrong. First off, Digimon Frontier had 6 members, not 5, Kouchi just joined later, like Ken did in Season 2. Also the silhouette of the originals in season 1 do not match up, the biggest indicator was that it had 2 little kids. And the great evil that the originals defeated was Apocalymon. They hadn't destroyed him, they just sealed him behind the firewall.

[@SymbolicSky]

Padamon is actually considered heavily to be a link to angelmon padamon excuse misspellings but he didn't digivolve because unlike many of the other digimon and their digidestined partners padamon almost ever left TK on his own. He stuck by him quite literally in every situation they got into and TK contrary wise didn't fall prey to devimons tricks byu means of greed, or selfishness in fact he very much tried to solve the problem always finding a ray of "HOPE" Padamon is literally the digimon which will evetually digivolve ito the angelic hero angelmon which defeats devimon i this however there is also Gatomon who is the digichild ( i guess you might say) to Seraphmon or Angelwoman because she is much like a symbol of the Virgin mary or a female angel. Both of them symbolize hope and purity while Gatomon has a slight bigger edge to her being a digimon that has not only inoccent heart but also very very strict beliefs in loyalty to others because she is able to contain memory even partially of her being some kind of hero while padamon I gues doesn't have these memories at all.

[@AmityvilleFan]

I think it is futile to bother with Adventure 1-2 (season 1-2) because they are appointed as tv-shows in Tamers (season 3). Although the "DigiDestineds" appear as canon in Xros (season 6), this don't make the all events of season 1-2 as canon, merely a fictionised version of the events we don't really know of. I'd base my assumption of the characters/real world's knowledge on the Digital World, the human characters (digimons can exist in multiply copies, reborn etc.), and the methods of digivolution. Based on this I'd make the timeline this way: Xros -> (Adventure 1-2) -> Tamers -> Savers -> Frontier

[@Death_Scythe88]

+gagnashdiak x You have issues! lol

[@RuneRelations]

+gagnashdiak x I think the chart for digivoultions is like this Frontier(they are using the power of Ancient Digimon to fight) - Adventure 1-2 (actual forced digivolution but runs on human emotion) -Tamers (Card system to simplify the human emotion aspect and biomerge to force mega) - Savers (your own power level and digivice determines whether you digimon can digivovle to certain stages or not also I think the main characters dad Biomerged with his partner to turn to BautoLeomon and Digi-Hybrid humans) -? Xros (its just weird in comparison to every thing else Super Evolution is like they just gave out free Digi-Armor of Miracles apps to everyone and most Digimon are used as Armor and weapons more than anything so the characters personal growth with his partner means a little less its more about your group team than about how you connect with 1 digimon)

[@mattwo7]

Didn't Savers/Data Squad establish that all the spinoff series took place in separate universes(Aventure 02 being a sequel series)? Moreover, Oikawa and Iori's/Cody's father were most definitely part of the original digidestined, and Matt's father probably was one of them as well considering the lack of surprise upon seeing Gabumon. They likely failed because Oikawa and Iori's/Cody's father ultimately never went to the digital world.

[@richeetah5221]

actually it was hunters that established the different universes

[@mattwo7]

Richeetah No I'm pretty sure there was something about alternate computers hosting other digital worlds or something?

[@richeetah5221]

mattwo7 No, it was different universes, plus if that were true, then masaru and co. would not have went to the same digital world when they escaping from the bio-hybrids.

[@mattwo7]

Not really. There's still alternate digital worlds in existence. Not to mention there's no real scientific laws that dictate which digimon world connects to which human world or even what makes them different. As 02 pointed out, it's an alternate plane of existence while Savers claims it's an alternate universe instead, meaning that travel to and from the digimon worlds isn't an exact science. I mean, why would Adventure's Digimon World uniquely have the Digi-Armor system while Tamer's Digimon World uniquely has the potential for the humans to merge with digimon in a natural process while Frontier's digimon world uniquely has the potential for humans to naturally turn into digimon and back and Xros Wars'/Fusion's has DigiXross and Digimemories?

[@mattwo7]

Also for that matter, why is it that the DigiGnomes only exist in the tamers Digimon World and why aren't there more entities like the D-Reaper in the other digimon worlds? I mean there was the Mecha Roges and the DigiElves but the less said about DW4, the better.

[@Solfei]

your point are a little bit lacking. while some of the digimon share their names its just because they belong to that family (greymon family, garuromon family, etc). one point that you missed is that in 02 its explained that "armor evolution is an ancient form of evolution and in frontier there are plenty of armor digimon during the entire season. making it a very common form of evolution. I really doubt that patamon and Tailmon waited that long to find their partners.

[@eddog6666]

Here's my theory on Digimon. digimon beside Adventure 01&02 the rest takes place on the parrel Earth. However the digital is one world. and here's the timeline: Digital world: Frontier. Tamers Adventure 01 Adventure 02 xros wars Data squad. Reason why I think this is true is the fact that the numbers. Frontier= 5 to six later. Tamers remember Impmon? he had two humans and 3+2=5 the Same number as the Frontier. Impmon screwed up the plan by leaving. so more digidestineds had to be chosen. The d-reper could explain the telephone booths in Digimon adventure. the xros wars have to before data squad because there is mention of a digital war with digimon several times in data squad. this time line is a prefect fit. what do you think?

[@azzcalvert7719]

eddog6666 except that marcus from data squad shows up at the end of the xros wars hunters arc and is described as a hero from the past. So data squad would have to have occurred before xros wars

[@eddog6666]

Azz Calvert then why would data squad say the human digimon war? this is the biggest clue to timeline. here is one question that could answer all the problems. In Xross Wars was the digital world destroyed? if yes it could have come after data squad. if no it has to be another digital world. wait a minute Xross may be after anyways. data squad connects the two worlds and then something happens which brings a foe which fails in destroying both worlds. then frontier happens. this leads to tamers which leads to adventure 01&02 both of them are possible as long as this question remains unanswered: Was the digital destroyed in Xross Wars? until the answer there is no way of knowing and it will stay that way.

[@azzcalvert7719]

But wasn't it confirmed by the old clock shop man that all the previous heroes (Tai, Daisuke, Takato, Takuya, Masaru) were all from the past and had saved their own world? Therefore Xros Wars would need to be after all 5 of those seasons

[@eddog6666]

Azz Calvert only xross wars season 1 in America.

[@azzcalvert7719]

But that's said in the Young Hunters Arc in the original version too :/

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

Wait you're saying that koromon and others were frontier's partners? that isn't true... they were made from the data gathered in the parrot Vs greymon fight. V-mon and other "Ancient" digimons on the other hand were waiting for someone to open them.

[@jazzy3345]

it also explains how/why the humans and their partners could biomerge.

[@HyperKirbyinc]

It is possible, BUT, Season 1and 4 are supposed to be in different universes, keep that in mind.

[@AVAL2775]

I like this theory, personally i hate that tri brought back the original tamers, so my headcannon will always be that frontier was ment as a prequal to adventure

[@ultimateblaze23]

in 01 or 02 cant rerember they refer to armour digivolving as an ancient form of digivolving so why wasent it in frointer as you cant armour digivolve without a human as proven by magnamons bio

[@jadiidvega4662]

I was wondering why patamon did not digibolv into sarafimon in the second season

[@DenTehMan]

This would be a valid theory if not for a couple important factors. One of those factors has already been pointed out by 33jedi Another factor is the original Japanese names of BurningGreymon, KendoGarurumon and MetalKabuterimon - which are Vritramon, Garmmon and Bolgmon, respectively. Taking this into consideration, these have nothing to do with the 01 Chosen Children/Digidestined except maybe their designs in a way. And yes, I do realize that KaiserGreymon/EmperorGreymon and MagnaGarurumon do have their names in common with the lines up from Greymon and Garurumon... but when taking that into consideration, so do GeoGreymon, RiseGreymon and ShineGreymon. Another important to take into consideration is the (sticking with dub terms now to avoid confusion) Fractal Code system. When a Digimon gets defeated in Frontier, it releases in a Fractal Code. When a Digimon gets defeated in Adventure 01 and 02, it reduces to a much lower Level or downright returns to its Egg form. And then there's the Trailmon types. I've not watched a lot of Frontier, so please forgive me if I'm ignorant, but why did the 01 kids have to get transported to the Digital World via that big flood-thing and certain digital portals instead of getting to get on some sort of train that's actually a Digimon?

[@33jedi]

On top of all of that I just started Digimon Tamers in Japanese and Henry's father along with a team of others clearly admitted to creating the digital world. Thus making Tamers the first series. Then would probably come 01, 02, and Frontier with Savers coming in last. Or so I would assume given all the information I have.

[@DenTehMan]

33jedi There's just one problem with that theory, though: Digimon Adventure 01 and 02 are TV shows in the Tamers universe. The way I see it, each Digimon season (well, except obviously 01 and 02) takes place in an alternate reality. I mean, besides the anime there are some more and quite different depictions of the Digital World. Take the Digimon X-Evolution movie, for example. (WARNING! SMALL SPOILER AHEAD!) I like that movie a lot because it has no humans in it. Heh. And then there's the V-Tamer manga. (WARNING! MORE SMALL SPOILERS AHEAD!) In that manga, no Digimon reduces to a previous Level after a battle or something. Once a Digimon has evolved (digivolved), it stays in that Level until it gets deleted.

[@33jedi]

I have heard about the whole 01 and 02 being tv shows in tamers but after watching it in japanese I find nothing to support this. All I see is a card game. I mean, sure correct me if I am wrong, please, but wasn't the whole 01 and 02 thing only in the english version which is not accurate to the original creation which is what you have to truly go by for the true details?

[@DenTehMan]

33jedi You have made an excellent point! :O Rather stupid of me to get that mixed up... Still, it would make more sense to me to consider them all in different realities from each other. Mechanics and all.

[@33jedi]

I agree with that, however, if tamers was the first season it would explain a lot too. Like why no-one believes in real digimon, and why it was just a computer game and card game. They were also considered the first to ever enter the digital world as well, so that lines up. If 01 came after that it would explain the whole second chosen children bit, and of course 02 is a direct sequel no doubts. Then would probably come Frontier, because so many years have passed and the digital world has been made brand new. Takeru and Hikari's digimon have reached their true mega forms, Seraphimon and Ofanimon, and has kept the balance until Lucemon corrupted it again causing the need for the next generation. Then Savers in last because I haven't seen it to know where it needs to be placed. Also I know so many people say that Gatomon's mega form is that giant pink dragvon digimon but let's not forget that Digimon have multiple forms, Guilmon had Megidramon and Gallentmon so yeah.

[@BaraNoTog3]

There is a theory that that original digi-destined failed, so that would mean Season 4 or Digimon Frontier if they were the original digi-destined is that Season 4 is what would happen if the Original Digi-Destined had actually succeded.

[@CassCassCassime]

Mega Lucarioｺｽｲﾐｼｲﾐ ｼﾁﾘｶﾗﾐ dude. your taking theories as fact. don't do that. [Edit] What the heck did I say? Why did I say it?

[@or3356]

yay you chose a greate backround song! We are Xros Heart is so Epic!

[@hiriajuu_suffering]

This theory makes the most sense to me.

[@PharaohOfTheDamned]

nah because the data mechanics were COMPLETELY different. The original was just random code dust while the Frontier was fractal code

[@daca8395]

OR Digimon Frontier is after Tamers. Since degital world was restarted, and maybe digimon soverens died in last battle with D-Reaper.

[@Azarothpng]

I think the creatures of digimon don't have a doubt about how this all ended up. probably they are very happy that you found a solution for their messy story :)

[@Justinsaldana]

that actually makes sense cause those forms are more basic but look ancient.

[@Dio____Brando]

+Justin saldana they also have ancient forms like ancientgreymon to boot so i'm with him on that one digimon.wikia.com/wiki/AncientGreymon

[@TrippNessa]

Yeah I hear that. I have to pause whenever the subtitles take up more than one line of text, and it is kind of annoying. However I found the dub to be too dumbed down for kid standards for me to enjoy once I was older, but the original was much more mature and kept my interest. So it was worth the endless pausing, for me anyway =)

[@misseslittles]

The digimon that they turn into is super similar to season 1s digimon for example, kendalgarurumon and metalgarurumon, Right of away I new kendalgarurumon was a remake of metalgarurumon.

[@33jedi]

AODigimon Well that is a good theory and all as in very well thought out and it makes a lot of sense in the long run but, in season 1 Yamato's "Matt's" father recognized Gabumon. It was also either stated or suggested, that he worked on the creation of the digital world. Thus he may have been one of the original chosen children. If that is the case then it would have been roughly 10-15 years in the human world before Matt was summoned which would have been a few thousand years in the digiworld which supports your theory, except that Matt's dad was not in Digimon Frontier. It would seem to me that Patamon and Gatomon's mega forms. . . can't spell them. . . are Takeru and Hikari's digimon who now rule the digital world centuries later. This would make sense as Angemon defeated Devimon, and MagnaAngemon defeated Piedmon. He was seen as a hero and then Angemon and Angewomon were the angels of prophesy making them famous from the start. With that much time passing, the digiworld would be made brand new and because these kids are from a time where digimon is unheard of it would be like a new frontier for them. The spirit evolved because in the new world Angemon realized that digivices could be stolen too easily and a new system needed to be made in order to help protect the digital world. I say this because in the older shows the digivices could be used to force a digimon to evolve like in season 2 with the dark spirals and such, control the digimon and the digivice and you control everything. But if the human were the digimon then that could never be done again. Still this is just a theory. . .

[@kisamae8930]

33jedi But Kari's Gatomon doesn't digivolve into Ophonimon, she digivolves into Magnadramon. Or I think so at least.

[@33jedi]

It could be like Fladramon and Lighdramon. . . V-Mon's armor evolutions. I mean even Takeru and Hikari got armor forms on top of their other forms so maybe they have other mega forms on top of the ones we see in the show??

[@DenTehMan]

Zoe Johnson I know that video games are probably not canon to the anime, but Hikari's Tailmon (Gatomon) does in fact become Ophanimon in Digimon Adventure for the PSP.

[@francescoakajoker]

This is an excellent theory, but where does the tamers season play a role in this?

[@infultraterprototype]

all digimon can digivolve 6 times to super ultimate that level is what only certain digimon have achived and your tamagatchi one can also do with certain conditions dude.

[@LordZeromaru]

@pokemega32 I was talking about tamers movie...

[@bobthedavil]

Digimon Frontier being the first digi destined would make sense but it is said that the original digi destined's had failed, if I am recalling correctly. But that could also be wrong and when they defeated lucimon and left the digital world that the evil that was in their detectors was released.

[@RuneRelations]

+bob thedeavil kinda like "We did everything back to normal" but returning the fractal code to everything in the digital world probably was a mistake even if most evil digimon returned as eggs they are still virus types

[@Fallenslayer1]

+Isaac Oliver hey not all virus types are evil look at guilmon and his evouloutions he is a virus type.

[@RuneRelations]

Fallenslayer1 Megidomon is his natural digivolution line which is destruction incarnate most of his other forms share this theme also like theme as seen in tamers in whenever Takato loses control or when Guilmon digivolves into his new form he has a Digi-Hazard for a reason though Bio-merge to Dukemon cured that since its a Vaccine type and when you think about good character development because the events leading up to this digivolution

[@bobthedavil]

+Isaac Oliver Virus type or Digi-Hazard digimon could still appear from any digi egg as long as the fractal code was returned

[@shadelawft4736]

frontier is just so diffrent it could take place almost any were in the time line it turns digimons timeline inot a close second to ze;das

[@Dragondude2525]

I think you mean descendants not ancestors

[@TheTartanEevee]

good conclusion :3 ive always wondered if Gatomon and Patamon we're linked to Ophanimon and seraphimon :3

[@HDFDuarte]

I have a theory! Maybe Daisuke's father is actually Takuya!

[@Binnieth]

Patamon evolves into Seraphimon in Hurricane Touchdown

[@Justinsaldana]

gatomon did lose her tail ring a long time ago probably after this she stop being a mega after they saved the digimon world

[@syd6839]

+Justin saldana actualy she lose her tail ring ep.1 of adventure 02

[@Redcast]

This theory could be true. Digimon is very parallel with Star Wars plot and if Adventure representing 4-5-6, then Frontier is representing 1-2-3. Both are revealed later than the future. IT'S A VERY SENSIBLE THEORY #RESPECT

[@ZegetaX1]

That would be epic if Season 4 were the ancestors of Digimon Adventure

[@marcgoodman5971]

very possible here's why look at the map in S1 then S4 don't they look somewhat familiar and in S4 it looks like file island and there's PROOF

[@kannakagami1796]

Its confusing i thought it was the other way around like Takuya and the others r the descendents of the season 1 and 2 characters brcuae takuya kinda reminds me of a cross between tai and davis Kouji he reminds me of matt but kouichi reminds me of ken they were both even corrupted Zoe is alot like kari and yolie Jp well i guess he's kinda liek yolie a bit but reminds me of joe too Tommy reminds me of tk when he was a kid So my theory their decended from the season 1 & 2 gang thats my guess

[@TrippNessa]

Well personally I just don't see it. Not saying you're wrong or that it's not possible, it IS possible since no real official information has been released. But saying 'oh maybe he had memory loss' is just way too convenient of an idea for me to believe in. I've heard from fans who have read the Adventure Novels that the original chosen were hinted to have been partnered with the Holy Beasts. I've just started reading it to see if it's true or not.

[@aizensousuke8237]

Great theory 👍 it makes sense

[@Tennisegg]

I love digimon I grew up with it

[@mirrorcarrotg]

Not really there is not much cohesion here if they were in the same universe they would be further down the timeline. Oh and a funny thing if the Millenniummon Theory were to be believed than it is possible for those silhouettes to be accurate.

[@TheBurningCharmander]

Why do the kids go naked when they murge with their digimon?

[@chocolateconcha5787]

Because there awesome

[@daniellemiller3611]

I've got my own theory about how everything changed as the franchise progressed

[@daniellemiller3611]

( I'm just to afrade to make a video of it on my other account)

[@francisherrera2719]

the digital world looks different in all seasons but the first 2

[@justincanu9153]

Because they're all different versions of the digital world created by different physical worlds. The only connection they have to each other is in that episode of (the god awful) xros war when the main tamers of each worlds digidestined get transported to a hub world. Here's hoping that shit is entirely non canon though, simply because xros war :/

[@Elf_Pyro]

this might actualy be true becuse in season six all the digidestined leaders come togtherat the end