DISGAEA 6: IMPRESSIONS AND REVIEW - I Played It So You Don't Have To

[@vjbd2757]

If you play this coming off Disgaea 1 and/or 2 then this game is a good follow-up of the Disgaea series. If you've played Disgaea 4 and 5 you'll likely be disappointed by the reduced characters and customization.

[@Trynackle]

"Saturday morning cartoon" actually this was kinda spot on. But I do still find enjoyment from those. The inflated numbers I found annoying, it seemed like I never grew when at the start you can do thousands of damage, mid-way through the game the numbers seemed meaningless, I just looked at the percentage of health the opponent had left.

[@derekminna]

This exactly. I cant stand the artificially inflated numbers. It robbed me of one of the joys of playing this series. When you start with 8 ATK getting to 1000 actually means something. When you start with 22,000 ATK, numbers completely lose their meaning.

[@ataridc]

Honestly I kind of hate that "silly" type of humor that has infested game writing. Whether it's nintendo with the paper mario series or god awful borderlands writing, it's barely even jokes so much as stringing together funny words like "butt stallion" or shallow pop culture references. Seeing that type of humor in a game is usually an instant pass for me.

[@justmeok2]

I LOVE disgaea but i had a hard time liking 6. The 3D was not to my liking and it came at the expense of so many generic classes and monsters. The skills animations were meh and always made the screen go black for a mini second before starting. I only got enjoyment out of it when i decided to see 6 as a spin off rather than a main entry.

[@SubrosianDimitri]

D6 is in a weird D3 situation in that it's a massive mechanical shakeup with some hits (the juice bar and redone leveling), some good ideas that need more time in the oven (karma and D-Merits), and some that need to be heavily reworked or dropped entirely (autobattle and skill learning). It's also this bizarre reflection of D5 in that its mechanics are iffy but the plot and cast are the best since the PS2 games despite being eerily similar in structure. The main differences are that D6's plot has rhyme and reason to why the worldhopping goes as it does; and the party being fully enjoyable instead of everyone but Usalia and occasionally Christo ranging from okay at best (Zeroken) to boring (Killia) to grating (Red Magnus) to Seraphina.

[@christianboi7690]

I just didn’t have a good time with it. Disgaea 5 felt like it degraded all of my favorite mechanics by streamlining the old hard rewarding parts like collecting innocents and capturing units. Adding captured units to your team was now barely preferable to creating units. All the cool extraneous, optional mechanics became super streamlined and easy to accomplish and subsequently became a necessary step in progression, making them feel meaningless, while you had to engage in and even master all of the new mechanics to beat the post game content because they limited the strength you could achieve through the old conventional means. I like grinding, but they made grinding levels almost trivially easy by giving us the innocent farm and then put a cap on those stats to push you to master other mechanics and those mechanics where fun at first, but soon became laborious and slow. I can at least see myself engaging them again, but Disgaea 6 went too far in my eyes. Doesn’t really matter. all that matters is if you had fun. I didn’t have a lot of fun, but other did. Good for them.

[@HybridAngelZero]

I'm a longtime fan of Disgaea, and I picked this one up on Switch last year when it initially came out. I haven't finished it yet, but I've had a whole lot of fun with it so far! I'm glad it's coming to PS4/5 and PC, I admit I might double dip when the new port goes on sale xD

[@Tesko91]

My dude! You are ruthless! I love disgaea. I love your channel as well! ^^ much love from Sweden!

[@jaimereupert4247]

I own the original Disgaea 6 for the Switch. So idk what the "Complete" version adds to the game. Still, of all the original "main" games, the only only one I don't have atm is 5. I have a digital copy of 1 for my PSP, a copy of 2 for PS2, a copy of 3 & 4 for PS3 and now 6 on Switch.

[@Puckanm]

Im a huge fan of Disgaea and cant wait for the PC release this coming week. Thanks for your views even though I dont agree with them all I do like hearing the input of other players

[@caiokenproductions]

The good thing about disgaea franchise, is not to beat the game, is to beat Baal, i mean, you need to explore all mechanics and side content to be able to beat Baal.

[@mccoy4369]

I haven't even started watching this vid yet and already commenting lol. If you seen my disgaea quickplays Dave. You know I love the games and am very happy you even done a vid of it, even if you dislike it. Hope your doing well, I do want to come to your twitch streams again soon.... Dood lol

[@kaname7972]

The ally ai open up later in the game in parts so you can actually customize the way they attack or heal or what they will do it a bit like actual programming with all the tools in the late game

[@R3GARnator]

Thanks for the review, many youtube reviewers of JRPGs aren't critical enough I find.

[@DigitalDilemma]

Disgaea 5 > Disgaea 6 started playing during the original Switch release. story is kinda boring. graphics are pretty gross compared to past installments. and gameplay 6 just made everything way to easy. it's like a preschool version of any previous Disgaea. the more i played 6 the more i wanted to play 5. all in all.... if it's your first tactics game then i think it would be good to get you into the genre. but if you're wanting a good tactics game i would recommend Disgaea 5 - Swith/PS4 Triangle Strategy - Switch Agarest War - 360/PS3 Spectral Force 3 - 360 and of course any.... Final Fantasy Tactics - PSX/GBA

[@taxtiriti6126]

My favourite gaymer ever ♥️

[@Genethagenius]

LOL, I like that but hope he doesn’t find it offensive! :)

[@taxtiriti6126]

@@Genethagenius does it come across as offensive? If so I should delete it immediately.

[@alexterieur8813]

@@taxtiriti6126 he uses the gaymer hashtag, you're fine

[@tjcombomofo]

I really like this new review series you are doing!

[@FatalKitsune]

The first Disgaea game will always hold a place in my heart and I enjoy the series, but it's ALL about the GRINDING. I just don't have the time to dedicate to the series anymore.

[@jameswatts2338]

Wii be picking up the complete plus addition at the end of the month.

[@grey_wulf]

Hi David! These games have always interested me on some level, but honestly they look VERY grindy. On the fence with this series. Anyway, love your channel! Have an awesome day.

[@jarredcombs7603]

It’s honestly just a grindy as you wanna make it.

[@SBaby]

Disgaea 6 actually cuts out ALOT of the grind though, and allows you to automate a good amount of it. You can automate the game to instantly beat maps (assuming your characters are strong enough to beat the map), and then set it to repeat and go eat and come back after you finish to see the improvements to the party. And since you autoheal after every map now (you read that right), you pretty much never have to be there to grind.

[@grey_wulf]

@@SBaby really? Well that's a nice quality of life Improvement. I may have to give this one a more serious look then. Thanks!

[@bandrew1442]

I remember being interested in Disagaea when the first game came out, but at this point the series seems so dense it would be hard to get into.

[@jarredcombs7603]

It’s not hard to get in to, depending on what you want to do in it. If you just want to go through the story it not dense at all.

[@SBaby]

The best games are the first one and Disgaea 5. None of the games are directly connected (except for Disgaea D2), so it's perfectly accessible to newcomers, regardless of where you start.

[@schwaansch3238]

Going through story is really fun but the endgame grind is boring to me personally

[@SBaby]

@@schwaansch3238 The postgame grind is always boring in Disgaea games. I've said many times that when you have a big postgame in your games, you need to integrate it into the main plot. I will say this unto my dying breath, Dragon Quest XI has the best postgame I've ever seen in an RPG. It's criminal that so few people mention it, because this is how you do a postgame right. But the thing is, in Disgaea 6 they automate a good portion of the grinding, enabling you to just let the game grind on autoplay while you go do other things, so you don't need to be there all the time. So they at least improved that.

[@daveymarshall3679]

Actually picked this up launch day on switch played it over a weekend leveled up to 9000 a few times beat the story and was like ok what did I do I mean most rpgs I feel accomplished but this one was like yea where did my 30-40 hours go

[@alfredocoimbra5532]

Definitely enjoyed dabbling in the disgaea series and the alternate series that has a similar art style that also has a undead hero. Disgaea didn't hit the mark for me, but the music is great.

[@FlikViktor]

Did you ever play La Pucelle Tactics, and if so how did you like that game in comparison to the Disgaea games?

[@hex1233]

I'm not sure about this one. I avoided the Switch version because I heard about performance issues. Maybe I'll get this on PS5. I'll wait to see what other fans have to say first though.

[@eol6632]

Thanks for checking out the game for us David. I have always had a soft spot for disgaea. Laharl and his crew were fun and Game play is always good. Ever play Makai kingdom? The combat uses a system like phantom brave so I didn't like it as much as Disgaea but game was still fun. Overlords Zetta & Pram are worth the play through. If they remade Makai kingdom with disgaea style combat I'd play the shit outta it.

[@thehoff3189]

I love the animations! Never played a game in this series before.

[@kagato0987]

I played disgaea 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6. I have to say that 5 is the best and if it had some of the quality of life changes from 6 it would be the perfect disagea game. When I played 6 it felt like a step back and a tiny step forward. It does feel cheap and the animations feel lifeless, but some of the auto battle stuff and how they managed to make HL, and reincarnation relevant longer than any previous games was nice. It makes no sense my Duping was taken away, that was one of my biggest gripes. I'll give it credit for being an entry with interesting ideas and direction but the execution isn't as good.

[@csbkota]

I would be interested in your opinion about Soul Nomaf, Phantom Brave, Makai Kingdom, ZHP: Unlosing Ranger vs. Darkdeath Evilman, which came out recently in NIS collections.

[@eol6632]

Overlords Zetta & Pram are fantastic

[@zetsushoren]

"too anime" i mean that's, pretty much the whole appeal of disgaea if i had to say, it's probably the most japanese srpg with cultural references and anime references as well as to other games which are all strictly japanese, so i guess it would make sense for anyone to be turned off by disgaea thinking it's a deep and serious game series as a former diehard disgaea fan since 1, i pretty much knew what i was getting into, but the only thing i didn't know was that the writing quality of every successive disgaea game gets worse and worse as for why i say i'm a former fan, disgaea just isn't the same anymore it used to be great with the halloweeny theme in 1 and the hotblooded youngster (nekketsu) vibe in 2, and they both had pretty good writing by NIS standards, but it just went downhill from there

[@demiraichan]

Maybe you shouldn't of reviewed this one. It's a huge step back from what the games had become. They removed a lot of the features, and this is the first 3d model game compared to the old sprites. The battle system isn't the same. Monsters don't work like they used to. It's just not a good disgaea game compared to how 5 improved a lot of it only to have it all removed for this budget title version.

[@letterm6656]

My gripes with disgaea 6 is not entirely on the game itself, but with NIS. D6 was released on the NS and PS4 last year. This year, they released D6 complete on the ps4/5. They however ditched the standard version and only released the deluxe edition for $80. It runs like ass on the switch on launch, but it somewhat worth $60. Fast forward to now, if you want to play D6 complete on the ps4/5, your only option is to over pay for a game that is imo mediocre even for a Disgaea game. While i think D6 is decent, its not worth $80. Worst of all, NIS know it too.

[@damikki]

Happy with my switch version but I do wish they would release all of the other games in the series for the. Switch.

[@jaimereupert4247]

0:23-0:24 it's supposed to be, that's the whole gimmick of the Disgaea games.

[@kana_emiya]

You know you can set the auto battle AI to do whatever you want right? You can literally program it

[@SuperRobotSol]

D6 is fun but I miss some features. Still can't wait to play it again when the pc version drops

[@ddaodao9332]

Thanks for the awesome video 👍 😅

[@salsamonkey65]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't enjoy the humor in this series. It makes it really hard for me to get immersed when every other line is some fart-joke or fourth-wall break. If the game can't take itself seriously, why should I?

[@eol6632]

These games are NEVER to be taken seriously lol. It's for grinding addiction and batshit crazy story and bad humor. Embrace the campyness

[@kingbaboon1145]

Sure, but I'm not into potty humor. ​@@eol6632

[@TheBT]

It's funny, I haven't really enjoyed a Disgaea game in ages. This sounds funny from someone who literally has a custom Disgaea profile pic that someone once made for me.

[@Mikhailnoise]

"If you've played one, you've played them all." I felt that since 3 and have moved on because of 5. Yeah, they're comfort food... but its juvenile and failing to iterate upon itself at all. The shift to 3D is sad because its PS3 baked-lighting quality and although 6 sold decently... I wouldn't justify this series continuing on - but I know it will because its mobile counterpart has raked in some dough. Automation is such a mistake to me and almost a slap to the face. They know that a majority of their playerbase doesn't want to put the effort in to grind through dull battles, so instead of doing anything to correct that flow... they turned it into a mobile experience? That's a letdown. I don't understand the lack of evolution from Disgaea. Its stuck being a "Saturday morning cartoon" grind from the 00's. Feels like 20yrs of nothing.

[@slashermaster28]

Disgaea 6 is weird to me. It is enjoyable, sure, but I find it so odd that it's missing quite a number of features from many of the previous titles. I can't help but wonder if the switch to 3D had something to do with that, and if it did, maybe sticking to hand-drawn graphics might just be the better approach for this series. (Or maybe if they stick with 3D, they could polish it and make it work in later titles) Although one difference I appreciate is how I never once found myself needing to grind while playing this one. This is the first Disgaea game where I could get through every single mission without needing to devote hours to replaying past missions. I don't mind grinding in traditional turn-based or action RPGs, but with tactics games, it can feel beyond tedious.

[@sillantro5149]

im such a diehard fan of this series but this one was a huuuge step back. they removed many features and what they added-- 3d, auto play-- just does not work

[@Alfazil]

Great review!

[@Ock_mantis]

I heard the us version is going to be censored, that's my main concern.

[@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694]

I don't hate this game, but it's definitely the weaker link of the series. This could be a good first Disgaea for newcomers, since it feels slightly dumbed down from the rest. I also miss the hand-drawn graphics.

[@Chelaxim]

Hopefully D7 goes back to 2D.

[@romainpascaud3735]

As a first hour Disgaea fan and someone who played, if not finished all episodes, I respectfully disagree with your review. I feel the very silly humor, cute and and off the wall story really compliment a well made but lighthearted game. But i also really understand how it might not be for everyone. I feel 6 is trying to streamline the series into something manageable and comprehensible by mere mortals, cuts on the grinding and gives a lot more gratification by pumping numbers up. The upgades system isn't as convoluted and it's my second favorite in the series for this. It won't make you change your mind David, and I fully respect your opinion, but maybe it'll help someone who might be reading this and feels inclined to try the game. Also, av oid the Switch version, it's very poorly optimized.

[@urmanascrewed]

What is your favorite one? I just played some of this demo and thought it was pretty cool!

[@romainpascaud3735]

@@urmanascrewed My favorite one is the first one. It has the best writing, least confusing gameplay and is just nice all around. Disgaea 1 complete is a great to play it, and it should be avaiable for cheap. Disagea 4 also is a lot of fun but way convoluted if you're not ready.

[@urmanascrewed]

@@romainpascaud3735 Cool, I might be interested in that one. I heard there is a problem with the Item World though.

[@romainpascaud3735]

@@urmanascrewed Is there? I never heard that. Its good enough.

[@urmanascrewed]

@@romainpascaud3735 Oh, I guess it's not that bad then. Apparently, you can get stuck in the item world because the rooms are randomly generated.

[@alexterieur8813]

Did y'all heard the news?! Persona 3 and Persona 4 are coming to ps4 as well!!!

[@SymphoniaFan101]

David doesn’t like the Persona games, but it’s great news for the rest of us!

[@alexterieur8813]

@@SymphoniaFan101 yess i'l finally be able to play p4g!

[@slashinghades7347]

Disgaea 6 was hard to get through due to how bored I was with the characters, maps, story and overall gameplay. As for graphics, the jump to 3D cut down a lot of the crazy attacks characters would do in the earlier games as well as a lot of the classes the series has. They cut the amount of classes to about half of what 5 had and lacks many of the playable characters from past Disgaea/NIS games that were playable in 5 Complete. Then you have how poorly it was optimized for the Switch, which confuses me. I have no idea why this game has such poor framerate when the Switch can run more demanding games like Witcher 3, the Xenoblade trilogy, Doom, Doom Eternal, Dragon Quest 11 and BOTW. Even though these games have issues as well running on the Switch.

[@SBaby]

If you think it runs worse than Witcher 3, then you haven't played much of that game on Switch, because that game runs worse the longer you play it.

[@slashinghades7347]

@@SBaby I own both games. My point was based more on the fact that a game like Disgaea 6 has no reason to run as bad as it does. Witcher 3 on the Switch has a lot of issues but for what the game is it's more understandable why it has problems given the weak hardware it runs on. If it can run The Witcher 3 regardless if it runs it poorly then it should be able to run Disgaea 6 with no problem.

[@tenchistar8164]

What put me off also is the combo animation. You line them up expecting them to do a team assistant combo for your efforts. But no. One character hit the target and its already consider as a team assist combo. WTF - that really put me off. It was these funny and different animations and un-expected humor that lead me play this game. If Disgaea going to lead down this path being lazy then don't expect me to continue buy this game. I was put off within 15 mins of the game. Specially with the AUTO-COMBAT system. You might as well add full auto mode and let the game play itself.

[@grumblekin]

I wanted to like Disgaea so much but it just falls flat for me. I played the first, second and third games but didn't beat them and lost interest. 6 doesn't look like it's enough to bring me back at full price. Maybe when it's on the PS Plus Premium service....

[@The-Cutmaster]

Agreed on the storyline. Disgaea 1 turned me off within the first 10 minutes.

[@10k-Noodles]

Not gonna lie, boss. I love anime and strategy rpgs, and I didn't give the original Disgaea 30 minutes. I even tried watching the anime they made of it. I just don't like it.

[@megamanx1291]

Omg the dialogue really turned me off, I played 5 and was so fed up with it, that I literally quit playing

[@luigi180]

Its a damn shame they decided to change the character models to 3d. I feel it looks nowhere near as good as the old hand drawn models. Unfortunatly I'd assume this game has less content might because the new models require more work to model so they decided to make less classes.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

Yeah I should’ve bought 4 not 6 played 5 recently and yeah I’d rather play that one so far especially this one is $10 more with much less charm and options. I actually didn’t even like the story as much so far

[@kdogmich15]

Those graphics in combat...Yikes. I'd prefer Disgaea 1 graphics in battle significantly over that

[@Genethagenius]

I LOVE the characters and story of the original “Disgaea”! (Honestly most of the characters are great and well-written in all of the games. “D4” Desco is awesome!!!). Besides the original, the it’s sequel “Disgaea D2” and “Disgaea 5” are good with “D5” having the best version of the battle system. However, I haven’t heard good things about “D6”. Especially its performance on the Switch which sucks because I like the series.

[@n.b.2164]

I've only beaten the first two and I enjoyed them, but yeah they can be too puerile.

[@ancientrune1674]

im sorry you played it? I thought the game played itself.

[@davidvinc]

Yes, I played the demo yesterday when it was released

[@Testiskulls]

I've been a fan of Disgaea since D2 and La Pucelle tactics. This game to me is what is wrong with everything in gaming nowadays. Terrible art direction to save on development costs as drawing the previous styles are more expensive. Highly forgettable characters, removing what made Disgaea unique in being able to make your own unit however you want. Want a god slaying 6yr old mage with an axe Thor couldn't lift? Want a brutish tree demon that could cast universe shattering magic? Well not anymore! And to top it all off they introduce.auto-play mechanics that the entire game is designed around!!! They introduced mobile-game mechanics to a beloved series. Every single one of those points are already soul crushing for such a huge fan, but to have them all implemented in one game? Well that.... That is why in my eyes, the Disgaea series finished at Disgaea 5 for me. This game is an abomination and I hope it's lost to time because it is one of the biggest disappointments one of my favourite developers had ever released. I felt more betrayed than Arya Stark at the Red Wedding.

[@urmanascrewed]

Fart jokes hehehehehe

[@gravysamich]

review of the demo not of the game... that is like judging a 5 star dining experience based on the candy in the bowl near the door. i hate that i wasted 5 minutes to find out you didn't even play the game.

[@charlesbeerguy474]

This channel is settling in to a mood of dismissiveness and negativity. All these "So You Don't Have To" videos make me think you're going to trash the featured game and I've been engaging with this channel's content less because of it. But it seems you liked D6 in the end?

[@davidvinc]

Of course I liked it. Just because I title the video that way doesn't mean that I don't like it, it's just a way to title a review

[@whiteiswong]

WatchAllDavidsVideosChallenge The AI can be super-customized in the full game which is very handy. Now we have Disgaea 7 coming up which is supposedly the REAL game after this which was more of a 3d test run. Time will tell.

[@HyouVizer]

only disgaea game I played was D2 on PS2 never finished it lol. doesn't seem like the franchise has changed much besides finally 3D models, still childish humor damn. the Switch version looked awful, nice to see the models smoothed out on playstation