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[@LuffyDaGoat]

How come you’re wearing sunglasses in doors?

[@rossmanngroup]

Only two people on Earth can pull off rose-colored sunglasses indoors. Scott Storch and I.

[@1eyedwilli3]

@@rossmanngroup Ehhhhhhhh

[@dutchuniverse]

Pinkeye

[@LuffyDaGoat]

@@rossmanngroup hahaha aye, you do look pretty slick

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

were you able to analyze his retinals? exactly.

[@General_Cap]

Forget the whole mantra of "if buying isn't owning, then piracy isnt stealing", if you buy something and die to negligence and a company tries to take away your family rights to hold them accountable, pirating their stuff becomes an ethical obligation.

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

yup.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

We are past that point. Pirate everything.

[@dawildbear]

Buying is owning, it's just when you buy disney+ (I guess rent?) disney owns you. Like literally can kill you if they want, own you.

[@shirothefish9688]

@@Carl-Gunderson If there isn't one available now, there will be.

[@AshrZ]

@@Carl-Gunderson If there's no pirated version of it, that probably means it isn't worth using in the first place 👀

[@suki-ou2jp]

>Watches "The Mandalorian" once >Mouse company kills my wife >Such is life in US of A

[@balsalmalberto8086]

"The food allergy is the cause of an over reactive immune system. After ingesting a diet of Disney cuisine the body went in a frenzied rage and killed itself. Therefore We would like to rule the cause of death a suicide". - Disney lawyers probably

[@Vladislav888]

>Watches "The Mandalorian" once >Mouse company kills my wife >This is the way

[@thesenamesaretaken]

>listen to Slaughterhouse Five on Audible >Jeff Bezos firebombs my wife >So it goes

[@LarsaXL]

The land of Freedom!

[@MikaTuukkanen]

@@LarsaXL The land of the free corporate overlords.

[@ChimeraGilbert]

The husband was asking for $50,000, which is absolutely nothing to Disney. It’s not about the money, it’s about sending a message: You can’t touch us, we’re Disney.

[@ElementVoidX]

should have asked for 50 million, to send them an even stronger message.

[@Andrew..J]

Asking for $1.70 from the average American is the equivalent of asking Disney for $50K. For killing your wife. Thats how disgustingly greedy Disney is.

[@rayawira]

1. Its not just 50.000. It's the base line. Could be millions 2. It's not Disney's restaurant. Disney is just the landlord. I hate disney as much as the next guy, but lets make sure we hate them for all the right reasons

[@Niraol]

Sorry can't hear you from how far Disney's foot is in your throat ​@@rayawira

[@rayawira]

@@Niraol yes, keep the hate flowing. Keep talking about disney.

[@thetriathigamer1544]

Instead of just paying the guy, they created a PR nightmare by saying they can literally KILL YOU if you bought a disney+ subscription.

[@RedFloyd469]

You apparently forget that Disney has LONG been known to be worse than soulless. It was a general fact that Disney was villainous, right down to the last scummy stockholder. They don't really have to solve a PR Nightmare that is essentially confirming AGAIN what loads of people have known for decades upon decades. They're doing this to scare people into never challenging Disney, and hoping that it works well enough. Still, you gotta give it to them. It's ballsy, I'll say that much. It's worse than the spiderman tombstone travesty.

[@thetriathigamer1544]

@@RedFloyd469 Not only is pirating Disney products justified, it is justice. The really scary thing is that they can do this stuff without worrying about solving PR issues, this is one of the best reasons to boycott and pirate any companies products ever.

[@NinthSettler]

@@thetriathigamer1544 i have better things to do with my time than waste it pirating and consuming disney slop. They have reached the absolute nadir, where it's not worth anyone's time to pirate their shit, let alone pay for it.

[@fryncyaryorvjink2140]

We should pressure Disney into paying him 100 million now instead

[@zackkassner3374]

He didn’t even buy it lol. It was a free trial.

[@gigimava]

What Disney doesn't realize is that this makes the fine for being caught pirating look appropriate, since the alternative is allowing them to kill you.

[@DazFromTaz]

There was a huge lawsuit over piracy in Australia. The defendants ended up getting fined......the cost of buying the DVD of the movie. There haven't really been any other cases since then, hahahaha

[@rheahorvath9274]

Literally!!!!

[@asd_]

​@@DazFromTazi believe Germany is pretty strict about this. you torrent something and the next day you get 200 euro fine.

[@lordship1543]

Everyone's gangsta until the house of mouse death squad shows up.

[@IVIUT3D]

@@DazFromTaz In the US its not technically illegal download but it is illegal to distribute. worst Ive ever seen is the ISP will turn off your internet if they catch you doing it too much.

[@ponyforhire]

"The way you create villains in this world is you punish people for doing the right thing." Rossmann has become the youtube villain we needed, not deserved.

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

Right and wrong is subjective. If the "wrong thing" is the thing that's better for me, then it's the right thing. I don't care what the right thing for a company is. If the company made and sold their product ethically, I would allow their opinion. If they don't, then their opinion, their revenue, their very existence all become meaningless to me. America decided companies should be treated like people. People suffer the consequences of their shitty actions.

[@WhoAmEye_WhoAreEwe]

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[@Suchen_Wahrheit]

Megamind❗

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

The anti hero.

[@MrKlarthums]

I'd argue the way you create villains in this world is by rewarding people for doing the wrong things. It creates a feedback loop where abusing power also gives the same entity more power.

[@murrethmedia]

I'll keep saying this: Forced arbitration should be illegal.

[@nomoredlc593]

not "it should". "it must"

[@reviewchan9806]

You need as many democrat judges as possible to make this happen. Those are the facts.

[@theioncow18]

@@reviewchan9806 lmao, you keep on thinking that. truth is, none of our shitty politicians care about us.

[@dandanplaneman]

Big companies like Disney fund political campaigns anyway

[@adamgallin9130]

@@theioncow18 100% They're just smiling and waving at the camera, and promising anything they can get away with whilst stuffing their pockets with cash. Regardless of the country or political regime.

[@TabalugaDragon]

Pirates: make software working forever *for free* Huge corporations: "we can't make your programs work forever after the purchase, it's too expensive!"

[@33pandagamer]

Pirates also have more shows and movies on one site then most streaming services.

[@TabalugaDragon]

@@33pandagamer or, you know? *on their actual preferred storage* I keep my movies, shows and games wherever I want without being scared of big companies taking those files away from me.

[@Kirbedev]

Also huge corps: You will own nothing and be happy.

[@Kacpa2]

Its bullshit in case of many games though. Piracy being a solution when it isnt in cases for many games that are just not possible to play and own, esepcially cases for pc only games that got stupidly updated and taken aways or rely.on online for biggest chunk of its gameplay. Such cases are Warcraft 3, Overwatch 1, Counter Strike Global Offensive, all of which are effectively entirely gone in their original versions permanently and impossoble to pirate and enjoy in original with people online in its full and intended way ever since replacement or horrid remasters entirely replacing the og version. Similar cases can be made to updates that delete content from og releases like GTA IV being butchered on its 10th anniversary and EFLC standalone expansion being just impossible to have as pirated gane as noone even provided it, its only base GTA IV that you might still find online on shady sites, but never Episodes from Liberty city. Only way to play original releases is on PS3 if you want radioes as they were before the butchering update.

[@TabalugaDragon]

@@Kacpa2 what are you talking about? I play Warcraft 3 to this day(version 1.30 where widescreen is fully supported). And Overwatch is an online game, such games should be expected to become unplayable one day.

[@Demodex42]

The guy didn’t even pay for Disney plus. He did a free trial and cancelled within the month.

[@Jdbye]

Good. Don't give them more money.

[@PappaTom-ub3ht]

He should sue again in the name of his now dead wife. Her estate or something

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Technically then, even the thought of paying Disney, is enough for them to claim total immunity over every other action.... - so this must be a thought crime...

[@innerlude]

Did she sign up? Push that in court.

[@artgoat]

So their lawyers are claiming that the TOS for a free trial binds him FOR LIFE? Even when he has declined the TOS? The judge in this case should throw them in jail for contempt of sanity.

[@Fenrir1]

Agreeing to TOS is becoming more and more like pulling your pants down and bending over

[@mikepalmer2219]

South Park may not of been too far off. Lol.

[@KulaGGin]

Yeah, but don't worry, people are fighting back and it's working. For example, in last few years the non-competing agreements became illegal in the US. It was illegal for a long time now in socialistic countries like EU countries, of course. Common socialism W as always. Before, when a company takes you to a job in US, they could ask you to sign an agreement that said that you can work for them but then if you leave, you can't work in that field anymore. Now it's illegal. Same is probably going to happen in this case.

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

@@mikepalmer2219 humancentipad aged so well as an episode

[@Syncopia]

You don't understand, they just want to put the tip in! Just the tip!

[@clockworkvanhellsing372]

I wonder if I can send them a random letter with an auto accept clause of my own agbs, where disney is subject to my own arbitration.

[@devinthedam7309]

I used to pirate things as a kid because I had no money and I felt bad about it. Now I pirate things because it’s the right thing to do and I couldn’t be prouder.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

Can you tell me how to get rid of all the ads on the piracy site I use? I keep getting ads for pyramid schemes and hot ladies, and it’s hard getting to the show I want to watch Also it buffers constantly, so I’m constantly having to refresh

[@Sumit.R]

​​@@Cubeytheawesome get firefox and install ublock adblocker

[@diapozitīvs]

@@Cubeytheawesome you use adblockers, tracker blockers and script blockers globally on the WEB and forget about all and every ad out there. And doing this I don't engage in any discussion if this is ethical or not. I'm not going to bend over and invite every virus (hiding behind fake download buttons and scam ads) in me because of misaligned ethics.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

@@diapozitīvs I’m on a phone, I can’t do that. Also my mom would find out and I could get in trouble.

[@diapozitīvs]

@@Cubeytheawesome for adblocking? : D Educate yourself and you parents on the issue and have fun/good luck!

[@final378]

We are months away from corporations trying to legalize slavery in the terms and conditions

[@Uthael_Kileanea]

"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." ~ Gabe Newell, the founder of Steam. Praise Gaben. May he be a role model for every service.

[@giuliotraykov6334]

well i mean he is quite the monopolist unfortunately but yea, steam is a lot more "okay-ish" concering customer treatment than other companies.. still, if im not interested in the multiplayer, you won't catch me paying for a game 🏴‍☠️

[@asmarlokicerain7706]

​@@giuliotraykov6334I only pay for indie titles, companies can go fùск themselves

[@benginaldclocker2891]

​@@giuliotraykov6334 how can he be a monopolist if his competitors suck?

[@giuliotraykov6334]

@@benginaldclocker2891 his competiton may suck but that didn't stop him from violating eu antitrust laws, valve's games used to be awesome, i agree, but pls don't be a blind fanboy and judge critically, gabe newell does not give a single sh*t about you

[@fonkyman]

​@@giuliotraykov6334he doesnt have to.... he just has to give his customers a fair deal... Hence the quote .....

[@this_is_patrick]

Somebody once somewhat jokingly told me, "Always read the ToS; they could've put a clause in there that allows them to legally kill you haha." I never thought it'd be real.

[@MyAramil]

Well according to how Disney is handling things, it was only a matter of time before they did this. Hell would not put it past them to start enmasse buying emails to everyone and then signing them up for 1 month disney plus and then bending the population over.

[@thulyblu5486]

And what if you find something you disagree with? As long as there's no option to disagree (for example to only one paragraph) then it's pointless to read it. Because often there is no viable alternative.

[@penguinsushi8442]

​@@thulyblu5486uhhh piracy, hello?? But yeah, I get what you mean. There's no legal way to support the people who work at Disney unless you waive certain human rights, or know people who work at Disney personally and give them a monetary boost.

[@JamesTDG]

The whole "you have to agree to this excessively long contract or you're unable to use this product you paid for" is bullshit. And even worse when it's the scenario from the video. If Disney wins this case, every company is essentially legally allowed to murder you just because you agreed to a free trial

[@thulyblu5486]

@@Carl-Gunderson I'll quote myself: "Because often there is no viable alternative." Facebook is one example since most people are on there and the alternatives are often kind of empty which defeats the purpose of a social network. sometimes it's very difficult to establish alternatives and even if there are: they often have very similar TOS. Also I don't have time to read and compare the TOS of a dozen different companies. Even if I understood the lawyer speak. No normal person does.

[@alessandricedric1995]

To the high seas, gentlemen!!! ⛵

[@robertaries2974]

Yarr 🗿☠️🦜

[@ValleyMansonOfficial]

🏴‍☠️🚢

[@RoverIAC]

Streaming services..... I have nothing, yet I have everything.

[@sopcannon]

rrrrrrrrrrrr

[@WillPower311]

And Ladies! Kids, dogs cats rats and bats everyone and everything to freedom!

[@north7289]

Signing a death waiver while signing up for a streaming service is a wonderful legal precedent.

[@Crimson_Hawk_01]

I always pirate Disney. They do not deserve my money.

[@xabhax]

I pirate everyone single streamers problem

[@Brambazai]

You still pay with your soul. With all the demonic stuff they put in it

[@JPOG7TV]

@@Brambazai I hate disney too but what makes any of their stuff demonic lol

[@XA--pb9ni]

@@JPOG7TV Ohh no disney is making our children gay comment in 3..2..1

[@zgagacz]

They do not deserve your time either.

[@AprilJMoon]

ToS should NEVER be allowed to be altered after the initial purchase. ToS should legally be made so that an average 5th grader can understand them. ToS should not be more than standard size characters on an A4 sheet of paper and be no longer than what those words would cover on a sheet of A4 paper for standard purchases and basic agreements

[@danielcillie1856]

So weird right, like a contract cant be changed afterwards without both parties agreeing and amending it. How do you, the second party, have no say in this?

[@assassinrider5655]

In Germany we have this ruled by law. ToS cant be misused. Companies can write what they want in their ToS, but if it goes against general consumer understanding and the intended purpose its not applicable

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

@@danielcillie1856 Because they weasel their way out by including in the original deal that they can alter their deal without your consent.

[@cmudd9788]

Always make a physical copy of any agreement that you sign immediately. That way if they decide to change something, you have your own copy of the original to prove that it was altered after you signed it.

[@jublywubly]

Even F*cktbook changed their terms of service, after I joined years ago. In my contract, as with most people's contracts, both parties (them and us) agreed that no advertising is allowed in personal timelines/news feeds. Yet they bombard people with unsolicited advertising. That unsolicited advertising is also a breach of the Australian (where I live) spam act. The act makes it illegal to send unsolicited advertising in an electronic form. (The act doesn't specify just emails, as some people assume it does.)

[@PindleofKujata]

If you can't own it, you can't steal it.

[@BriBCG]

How does that apply to this situation exactly? Almost all the content on Disney+ is available as physical purchases which you can indeed own. I'm so tired of these parrot replies you see on every video that even mentions piracy.

[@ran_red]

Can't argue against that!

[@donut_42]

​@@BriBCGthose items come with DRM built into them. They can also be made to break or stop functioning if the publisher so chooses.

[@zwabTheRealOne]

​@@BriBCGYes, because a subset if the content we're referring to is available via physical media, that must mean all of it is! The ONLY way to access certain content is via these awful, draconian services where you have massively eroded rights and levels of service compared to what was common place decades ago. Technology was meant to ENHANCE product offerings, not artificially restrict it. When a corporation is being maliciously harmful to the consumer, do not be surprised when the consumer decides these new terms of engagement are not to their liking, and turn to alternative means. Whether corporations like it or not, piracy is a competitor, much as I dislike Steve Jobs and his shitty walled garden fashion accessories people call "phones", he at least understood this concept.

[@nr-dx4zz]

You can plagiarize yourself

[@Frankenstizzle]

I "bought" one song on iTunes 20 years ago and when I realized I didn't actually get the song file, just access to it, I've never bought an apple product since

[@chuckthetekkie]

I have this saying I started way too many years ago: "You treat a customer like a customer, you get more customers. You treat a customer like a pirate, you get more pirates." Never been more true here.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

With music on youtube, it's gotten to the stage where they move heaven and earth to ensure you never get to hear music that they claim copyright on. Sort of like reverse advertising... these people are crazy.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@St.IsaacOfSyria In 2020/1/2 gov treated us as the enemy. And so, now we know what they are.

[@theALTF4]

B A S E D

[@eliasroflchopper3006]

Add second quotation marks pls

[@wildwind4725]

@@eliasroflchopper3006 Annoying, right?

[@demarcorr]

this country has turned into one where law abiding citizens are punished and criminals are not.

[@OutLanderUSN]

Good movie. Never expected it would be prophetic.

[@KopperNeoman]

That's how revolutions happen. Not as in "that's how people get pissed off enough to revolt", but as in "revolutonary governments need criminals to help keep the loyalists in line"

[@47coffee]

anarcho-tyranny: 1. A system of government that fails to enforce or adjudicate protection to its citizens while simultaneously persecuting innocent conduct. 1. An armed dictatorship without rule of law.

[@sindri1447]

​@@OutLanderUSNnah, ending sucked. Wrong guy won.

[@Christopher._M]

It's always been about getting away with as much as you can.

[@vincei4252]

Remember the threat that is printed on DVD's for years and years saying you'll be liable for $250,000 and up to 5 years in prison? I noticed on a Bluray yesterday that the figure is now $302,500 and up to 5 years in prison. I guess that's inflation talking ? Don't know why they didn't round up tp $350,000

[@Hobbyblasphemist]

I’ll run the gauntlet for 300k but 302.5? Too scary.

[@aronoc3599]

That's an oddly specific monetary threat.

[@vincei4252]

@@aronoc3599 My thought exactly. Maybe the extra is for the feds to buy themselves donuts ?

[@interstellarsurfer]

The extra $52,500 is for the organization who handles the forced arbitration when you lose the civil arbitration they bring against you.

[@giglioflex]

It's just a ridiculous number to begin with. The price of Blu-ray is some $30-$40. In no world does a fine 8,642 times the base cost make any sense. There are no damages for a single person watching a pirated video beyond potentially the loss of a sale.

[@laughingvampire7555]

some judges are already reviewing this and they say Disney has no case about this, because it sets the precedent that big corporations are unaccountable, just imagine this, if the TOS say "If you are a government official you are renouncing on your duty to charge me taxes" do you think Uncle Sam is going to allow that.

[@Lynn.-_-.]

Maybe it actually might....

[@dankrigby5621]

theys wouldnt care, big companies get away with tax cuts and loopholes all the time lmao

[@chaosenforcerdhm969]

⁠@@dankrigby5621by definition the government can’t do anything to a company using a loophole

[@fryncyaryorvjink2140]

But won't Disney just take it to the supreme Court that was recently stacked with corporate nazis who will side with them?

[@dankrigby5621]

@@chaosenforcerdhm969 true, but they also never really cared to make these loopholes impossible, at least until now. Ive heard the US wants to go down on foreign tay haven loopholes next presidential terms, but im not too sure.

[@patrickm2912]

Knowing disney theyd hire somebody to go through the past 20 years of web history "it says here in 2009 your home downloaded one of our movies so you actually owe us $250,000 for your wife's death"

[@penguinsushi8442]

Horrifying....

[@vgamesx1]

You know, with the way things are going I wouldn't be too surprised... Louis calling protection agencies a joke is quite the understatement, if we had any real protections we wouldn't even be discussing this, they'd be sued so hard they might have to close down regardless of the families wishes, but we live in upside-down land where companies can murder people and it's your fault because of the ToS.

[@Jirodyne]

Not provable. They have to prove, it was to your SPECIFIC Device, owned by YOU Specifically, and prove YOU did it and not someone else using the device/IP/Wifi. Which to this day is so impossible even the FBI can't even do it.

[@patrickm2912]

@Jirodyne mac address will determine the specific device used, disney will have 4k footage of you from 2009 off the security cameras in the Walmart you bought the device at, and can zoom in to see the serial numbers on the cash you used to buy it. Either way the name on the internet account would be held liable as usage is your responsibility. Your wifi, you gave the password to someone so you're responsible for the activities they use your wifi for

[@Jirodyne]

@@patrickm2912 Sorry, but your fantasy doesn't exist. If the Government and companies had that kinda knowledge base and tech, we would all be in jail. And yet, as I pointed out, even the FBI can't find that kinda proof. Plus all you have done, is is prove he owned the device, but doesn't prove that A, the device was used. Mac Addresses can be spoofed and faked. Didn't prove it was his IP and Networked. Didn't prove it was to his specific device, and didn't prove it was HE, HIMSELF that used it and not a Virus, or third party like a friend, family, or burgler to prove that HE, HIMSELF, SPECIFICALLY, did it. And without that proof, you can not even legally request his stuff to check with a Warrant, as that would be too broad of a fishing expedition and a violation of a citizen's 4th amendment right. You proved nothing, except you have a lot of illegal tools we should destroy and harm you, the government and companies, for having access to and using against american citizens illegal and unconstitutionally.

[@Mad_Alchemist]

A wise man told us that if buying doesn't mean ownership, then piracy doesn't mean theft.

[@oak_a]

I love how easy that is to explain and understand

[@96ethanh]

I would propose a minor tweak to the verbiage: "downloading" instead of "piracy"

[@mason4354]

It was me, i said that

[@gchamon]

problem is they won't prosecute people for theft, they will for alleged revenue loss from redistribution, which is crazier, because theft would mean you only damaged the company for that particular product's cost, but with revenue they can get away with charging teenagers with multi-million dollar law suites.

[@mason4354]

@@gchamon the*

[@James-eg3nf]

I find it hard to believe that text buried in a TOS exempts a mega corporation from an entire class of laws. If this is actually true, then both the US legal system and Disney have failed us and we are living in the dystopian furniture we all feared.

[@Sonario648]

Ah, yes. The dystopian furniture.

[@mikfhan]

IKEA

[@James-eg3nf]

@@Sonario648 damn autocorrect!

[@LarsaXL]

The USA have been a dystopia for years. And EU is looking at that trainwreck and going: "Awesome, let's bring that over here!"

[@triton62674]

They were always bean bags for me

[@balthasarking8570]

In a world full of evil, predatory companies, it's not only your right, but your obligation to pirate everything your heart desires. Companies don't have more rights than people.

[@nicreven]

Though it starts becoming slightly gray with like, smaller teams? Like indie games and such But even then, pretty much everybody would rather you pirate their game than not play it at all so

[@1x5x7]

​@@nicrevenAlways support the small man and pay, always pirate from the corporate machine

[@vixxcelacea2778]

@@nicreven There was a massive investigation by various corporations to try to prove how "harmful" piracy is. The results showed that it if anything, it actually makes them more money because it causes more word of mouth spreading, especially for lesser known things or smaller releases. Availability is your most powerful tool, along with ease of use, which piracy usually allows for. Because the results didn't show what they wanted, they basically ignored it. They were going to use it to release to the public, but it didn't prove what they said it did. Even in indie stuff, piracy actually causes it to spread more too. Thing is, most pirates are either too poor to afford it anyway, so it's not a lost sale (given that over half the world is lower class or below, this makes sense) or they are trying before buying and will buy the product if it's good. I've bought things before I don't even play to support developers I like. I'm a big voucher of voting with your money and rewarding good behavior/products by indie and AAA alike. When I can afford it, I have a list of things I'm going to purchase when I can. Also, buying from the publisher still connected to the creator of the game/music/movie etc. is better than second hand, because those sales aren't really counted the same and don't go to the people you want to to make more things. There are some fringe cases in which an Indie developer is hurt financially by piracy, but those are more rare than people think. Most of the time, if piracy was enough to tank it, it just wasn't a good enough product. Most people don't pirate. It's a small minority who do. Just like most people don't use Adblock because people still make money, in many cases, millions on KZbin. Corporations whining about either are just mad that they think they're losing on a tiny portion of revenue they assume they would get otherwise. In the case of piracy, they're generally wrong. In the case of adblock, they should curate their damn ads to not have viruses and porn popups.

[@tubax926]

​@@1x5x7i go by this quote: "If their name appears on Forbes, pirate their products and they shall be yours"

[@coldlogic800]

Don't give disney ANY of your dollars. They need to move to the historical section.

[@0LoneTech]

This case shows you shouldn't accept their "free" offers either. They're claiming the "free trial" is why they should get away with negligent manslaughter.

[@bobspldbckwrds]

I broke a 10 year streak this year because of my wife's Lego addiction. I should work on my cardio.

[@grillmaster95]

@@0LoneTech Yep, never invite the vampire into your house

[@gblargg]

Don't give them any eyeballs either. They are woke and dangerous.

[@sippingthepeachsoda]

@@bobspldbckwrdscontext please

[@RUZerGod]

My belief in good paid service (compared to pirating) sinks just like that mic at the end

[@cheekibreeki904]

Always has been.

[@marikothecheetah9342]

When you want to be a law abiding citizen and corpos make it impossible. :/

[@Cubeytheawesome]

@@marikothecheetah9342eh, laws aren’t tied to any belief.

[@marikothecheetah9342]

@@Cubeytheawesome no, but they can be influenced by those who have money.

[@Muhammad-sx7wr]

I don't know but who would want to support a company that supports g-side

[@notthegoatseguy]

Disney is doing all this for a 50k lawsuit? They make what...millions upon millions? 50k? That's a deal! Settle with this poor man.

[@rot_studios]

Yeah that is what stood out to me too. You're a billion dollar corporation. 50k is like.. . barely even pocket change. And you steep THIS LOW for that? What kind of... world view do the people that make these kind of decisions have? What messed up kind of person are they that this is a normal way of doing things (to them)?

[@danjames8314]

@@rot_studios my bets are on a lawyer thinking they could get away with setting a precedent that an arbitration clause applied for things outside the scope of a TOS we can see that this was a mistake

[@paulgarcia2887]

If they settle other people will start including Disney in their lawsuit even if Disney is not at fault. Disney does not own the restaurant, they own the land. The owners of the restaurant are still on trial. The owners are overseas businessman so it’s unlikely plaintiff will get money.

[@Sewersyrup]

You dont remember the time Disney lawyers forced a father to remove Spiderman from his kid's grave because copyright... Or when Disney sued schools because they had Mickey in their walls. There is a special place in super hell for Disney lawyers.

[@realJohnJohn]

they have lawyers in payroll for that

[@LivvieLynn]

We're now in a state of society where it's no longer good enough to buy things with money but now are expected to sell your soul instead.

[@countfrackula6707]

I challenge Disney to PROOVE that this individual actually agreed to their TOS. All they have to do is provide me the document with a notarized signature. What's that? ToS agreements don't do that? Well then they aren't legally binding.

[@SolaceMcfly]

Disney shouldn't be allowed to do this

[@gangofgreenhorns2672]

I hate when my cat steps on the remote and signs away my whole family to a conglomerate, but at least i got to watch the most boring Star Wars content.

[@SaHaRaSquad]

A contract doesn't need a signature to be legally binding. Verbal contracts are legally binding too.

[@baxter1252]

This hasn't been ruled on yet. Unless there's an activist\bribed judge who's willing to put their name on a ruling that you can loose your right to sue a company that killed your loved one by agreeing to a ToS Disney will lose this motion. Even in New York or CA they'd probably lose, anywhere else... I think they're really just trying to drag things out long enough that the husband can't pay his legal bills and drops the suit. That's Disney's usual legal strategy.

[@kaden-sd6vb]

​@@SaHaRaSquad good thing TOS dont do that either

[@ac31048]

I've started ripping DVDs from my local library and downloading old cartoons off the internet like a kleptomaniac. Recently bought myself a 8TB external hard drive.

[@rollymaster16]

Get a nas. I got a 7551p for $100 a mobo for ~400 and 512gb RAM for 666. Hook up 10 20 TB drives to that with an LSI. Or get a JBOD chassis and hook that up toss in 90 20tb drives for 2 pb storage (expensive) 10 drives relatively cheap. 5g

[@xenuburger7924]

You can't even buy Song of the South

[@ac31048]

@@rollymaster16 That's my plan when I can afford it.

[@nezzled]

I've been doing similarish but with music and video games. Had an epiphany after the Xbox 360 store shut down and got a bunch of stuff physically

[@IanBPPK]

​@@rollymaster16 I will tell you, the power cost that comes with running a storage array that large adds up quicker than most realize.

[@insanereindeer4081]

Piracy is the first skill I learned on the computer in the mid 90s. I'm not going to stop using it now.

[@packrat-y7j]

"Hacking is more than just a crime... It's a survival trait."

[@RollerBaller]

How and where can I learn to pirate? I'd love to be able to, but I'm afraid I'll download a virus.

[@CrimsonMey]

​@@RollerBaller google megathread

[@Jnoel608]

lol I still remember Limewire and uTorrent. Was my favorite app.

[@norliasmith]

How do I learn this skill?

[@RoysGuide]

Louis. Last year congress tried to push a bill called the Forced Arbitration Injustice Repeal Act (FAIR act for short) and it's currently stuck in committee. The intention of this legislation is to ban company's from being able to compel forced arbitration contracts. Forced arbitration enables company's to avoid accountability to people who should be able to have their day in court and touches almost every kind of agreement from the purchase goods / services to hiring agreements. It is insane. I would very much enjoy seeing you channel your power for good in bringing this institution to the ground because every company uses this bullshit and if there's anyone who won't stand for bullshit. It's you.

[@estuardo2985]

Disney's hasn't made anything I even want to pirate for years.

[@jonahlynx94]

lmao truth

[@QYXP]

Tbf shogun was an absolute masterpiece. You should definitely watch it.

[@dominikheinz2297]

@@QYXP Its a good show, you can pirate it in 4K everywhere tho :)

[@QYXP]

@@dominikheinz2297 for sure, I'm just saying it's a show worth watching, I'm not advocating signing up to Disney! Haha

[@triton62674]

inside out 2 looks alright, thing about a monopoly is they might get complacent and produce rubbish but they still have the best people in the business

[@bolingbroke92]

Rooky mistake .... you forgot to purchase the mic stand premium subscription! That will enable the "Tighten screw option" and will allow you to use the stand at it's max capacity!

[@0LoneTech]

It's not just tightening. The parts that slide don't have the right surface properties or shape. You get effects like tightening deforming them so only the center has any pressure, where it has the least leverage to stop it folding. Adding a rubber washer might help.

[@bolingbroke92]

@@0LoneTech Another rooky .... a rubber washer won't help with that... The ULTRA MAX subscription service for the mic stand will enable the anti deforming feature in the stand and will allow you to use the stand at ultra max capacity!

[@ddkapps]

@@0LoneTech _"By using this washer you agree to binding arbitration with mandatory NDA and a lifetime of servitude for your firstborn, and uh... Oh yeah, you can't sue us for ANYTHING, ever. Have a nice day!"_

[@0LoneTech]

@@ddkapps You forgot the "we can unilaterally change these terms at any time" part.

[@saschamayer4050]

Google the "forever mouse". 😉

[@MrEthanhines]

What I can't wrap my head around is how a subscription to Disney Plus had anything to do with a restaurant. One is digital service the other is nutritional service. "NON SEQUITOR YOUR FACTS ARE UNCOORDINATED"

[@Ansalion]

Because the plaintiff ordered the tickets to disneyland using the account he created for disney+.

[@MrEthanhines]

@@Ansalion ah now i see

[@InfernosReaper]

@@Ansalion Yes, but the ToS for the park trumps the Disney+ ToS as per its own text and specifically guarantees the right to sue. This shouldn't even be up for debate.

[@solanumtinkr8280]

Star Trek OS :D

[@cormoran2303]

@@Ansalion The restaurant isn't in Disneyland.

[@CMT_Crabbles]

It's not even legal, you can't waive away criminal negligence. No signature, no document will allow a company to kill someone. Money, however, will. They can keep fighting in court because they have the money to do so, and they would likely win. If it wasn't for public opinion. Now they will probably settle to avoid the bad PR.

[@JohnShalamskas]

You also cannot waive basic human rights in a legal contract.

[@CJ-eo2xz]

Is Louis slowly turning into Morpheus?

[@StrikeWarlock]

With all the redpills he does, he might as well be.

[@smigi3300]

He's waking up from the matrix

[@Expialidoucious]

He absolutely is lol

[@d-chudasama]

He is the one neo rossman

[@nicklasveva]

"No, I am your father" That's the quote, right guys?

[@jevgeniardassov]

I don’t get, how can a corporate agreement make you immune to being sued for killing someone, intentionally??? This is insane… 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤯💩

[@lamichka]

Only in USA! Land of the Free.... crone capitalism and corruption. Oh god every day its a new horror.

[@toreadoress]

It's funny (not in a good way) that things like this doesn't become mainstream news, but some KZbinr saying the N word or something inappropriate years ago, the whole internet blows up

[@pauls5745]

can be extended to allow them to do all sorts of bs outside the law! crazy!

[@asperganoid]

EvilCorp is testing the field, in ten years they'll have paid all the right politicians and judges to make it ironclad

[@RedFloyd469]

It can't. It's not how the law works (if what I've read about this particular case so far is correct.) Ultimately, it won't stand in court. It's just a scummy trick the horde of disney lawyers are trying to pull off to scare their victims. Ultimately, Disney has entire truckloads of money to waste. It really isn't about that. It's about creating terror in anybody that would stand up to disney via a lawsuit. And it works. Most people, myself included, barely know anything about how the law actually works and what will or won't stand up to scrutiny in court in the US. Disney will have sacrificed what little reputation they had left with the type of audience that actually pays attention to their scumbag behavior, and will win in the long run by actually showcasing that they truly are the unstoppable juggernaut of a villain that we have all known them to be for a long time. That is to say, they will prove once more that you are playing with your life and your finances if you do anything against Disney.

[@macfrommage949]

When this news hit my country I immediately cancelled my D+ subscription. Even though they can't pull this shit in the EU. I ain't sponsoring this evil shit. Yarr....

[@MellonVegan]

Afaik, they can't pull this shit in the US either. Won't stop them from trying ^^

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@macfrommage949 I literally get Disney + for free with my cable and I'm considering cancelling that free thing over this. I never watch anything on it anyway.

[@Cylonknight]

How in the world does a uela for a streaming service extend to eating at a Disney restaurant and dying. Our government is useless.

[@alazarbisrat1978]

just a crappy lawyer technicality argument that makes no sense but could be pushed with money behind it, understand that OBVIOUSLY not even the courts would receive this argument and take it seriously, but they could put money behind it and make it just an excuse to and possibly win that way

[@levimachado]

This is such an absurd argument. All they had to say was, we don't own the restaurant, please send the lawsuit to the right people; since this happened at our extended property, we shall assist with funeral costs and any charity you would deem worthy in her name (just for the good PI).

[@TheGhostFart]

>corporations performing acts of altruism lol. lmao even

[@notspm9157]

That's not how it works. They have essentially said that but using the arbitration as well because it's cheaper to do than to fight in court over the fact they aren't responsible. As well they used Disney's fact they had the menu as roping Disney into this lawsuit, so I would say this is exactly why arbitration is good because it is there to stop lawsuits like this where they name a party whose real only fault was it was on a piece of land they owned.

[@bluewren65]

And do you think that would actually compensate them for the death of their loved one? The product was advertised by both Disney and the restaurant as being "allergy friendly" and was not, therefore would you not expect both parties to be liable? I don't know anything about the law in the US ,but I do not what is logical. Of course, the fact that they can get away with what they did means the law is so twisted that it truly is only for the mega rich.

[@vincei4252]

Task clearly impossible

[@TheNickBrotherhood]

Disney is going to lose the lawsuit anyway. Crimes trump whatever ToS is written

[@Nevict]

This kind of unreasonable garbage needs to be outlawed. Companies can not get away with murder just because you waived your basic human right. Heck, your rights should not be waivable in the first place!!!

[@idkman2729]

The concept of arbitration, a company-made law outside the law, should be outlawed. This is ridiculous.

[@josephreynolds2401]

​@@idkman2729 It's like the wild west, but with seemingly formal bureaucracy and "fuck you" labeled red tape.

[@Aqua-ij3xs]

Pretty sure there's something in one of our historical documents about "certain unalienable rights"... these companies should brush up on legal documents!

[@adcraziness1501]

@@idkman2729 exactly. How did we get to this point? LAZINESS and COMPLACENCY. Misplaced trust. We aren't overly horrible so we don't expect others to be overly horrible. But here we are. Why are we even arbitrating over a fucking video streaming service? What SPECIAL fucking circumstances could arise where our court system couldn't handle such an event? No it is like that because it is overly stacked in Disney's favor as such, and they gonna get theirs. I'm ready to pull the plug on that. A lot of these companies are too big for their breeches as my granny used to say.

[@josephreynolds2401]

@@adcraziness1501 Do you know people that won't unsubscribe after this affair which is a fresh tip on a very large, visible iceberg? I know so many....shit sucks.

[@IvarTheReckless]

Like someone already basically said, if buying something isn’t owning it, pirating isn’t stealing it. I hate corporate shills. I’ve been a pirate for 22 years and I’m not stopping now, in Minecraft of course. No war but the class war.

[@tomasviane3844]

A company can change the TOS whenever they want, without giving people the option to opt-out, but... when a customer signed a contract for a service he no longer uses, then he apparantly signed it for life! Crazy!

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

Does no one understand the 7th amendment? Forced arbitration is way beyond the point of being unconstitutional for any national/international companies. It literally preserves that civil liability beyond token amounts be decided by jury trial. I mean actually literally. 😅

[@Sonario648]

Does anyone understand amendments other than 1, 2, and 5?

[@Varbos_Poet]

​@@Sonario648 People don't even understand those.

[@axiezimmah]

How can people defend their rights if they don't even know their rights? Btw, generous of you to assume people understand the 1st and 2nd ammendment even

[@jacobmansfield-go9fz]

@@jmkqfnvyl87 it's always funny when people bring up amendments and rights, as if the constitution hasn't been toilet paper for half a century or so

[@timh.6872]

*century and a half.

[@AQDuck]

Literally a South Park episode. "By clicking agree you are also acknowledging that Apple may sew your mouth to the butthole of another iTunes user"

[@onpoint2292]

Omg 🤣 Human Centi Pad Thank you for the Member berries

[@PichusBlueberryPies]

I remember that episode and not only was it really funny, but it is so accurate to reality.

[@michaelchen2718]

Actually, I had a similar experience! I was at a restaurant in I think Universal Orlando, and I ordered a noodle dish. I explicitly asked the waiter if there was buckwheat in the dish, as I am fatally allergic. He assured me there wasn't, that it was something called "soba". Luckily, I just happened to look up what "soba" was before taking the first bite. News flash: soba is Japanese for buckwheat. If it hadn't been for my impulsive decision to look up this food term, if I had just blindly followed the waiter, I would have gone into anaphylaxis.

[@williamtopping]

What Disney don't know, is that if they ping my IP to check my torrents, they enter an agreement that waives all rights to legal action against me. It's on my website, it's their fault for not reading it, and they agreed to my terms the moment they pinged my PC. It works for me as much as it does for them.

[@Surepeacooler]

Ooh that's a good one

[@thaias9654]

I guess that's why you're called william top ping

[@drac124]

It would work, if justice didn't exist to protect the rich.

[@Jo-Heike]

Forced Arbitration Agreements are the worst, and should be completely illegal and not an industry standard.

[@balsalmalberto8086]

I bought and return a zinus matress that had one. all the while they are in currently in a mass lawsuite for faulty construction.

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

If is forced, then there is not an agreement. PERIOD!

[@wombatillo]

At least in consumer purchases they should be outright outlawed.

[@justsomeonepassingby3838]

1:14 excuse me, but paying for disney content has not been a "right thing" since a long time

[@MrShadic140]

I agree but i also agree that he means that "paying for the services you use is considered the right thing to do, as opposed as illegally torrenting it off of pirate bay or some russian site." Supporting disney at all has been a bad call since around 2012, and honestly every other service of the current day, but if we're going to be a "law abiding citizen" I would hope to be treated like one.

[@llaammeerr2506]

​@@MrShadic140so what I'm getting from this is pay for services except if it's from Disney

[@MrShadic140]

@@llaammeerr2506 pay for your services unless they treat you like you're not a paying costumer, or if they are a megacorp who doesnt *need* your 10 usd a month, or if it is something that shouldn't be a suscription service and should be just be a one payment deal.

[@willierants5880]

We absolutely do live in a society that punishes people who try to do the right thing. This is 100% fact. It's insane and it's pervasive. It's top to bottom.

[@tobalaz]

This is peak insanity. The court system and government bureaucracy are being so abused.

[@aygwm]

The Goose are in charge now.

[@JacksonNick-j6i]

A wise guy once said: politicians are just money whores who serve any businessman who pays more.

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

If they acept the ridiculous argument then the courts themselves are acomplices to the crime.

[@Soridan]

It's all but guaranteed that if Disney tries this in court it will be thrown out. If by some chance the judge is an utter imbecile and it isn't thrown out then it can be appealed so a sane judge can take a look at it.

[@nicejungle]

Court system is not abused, it just follows the US law which protects capitalism, not people, in the first place.

[@Spazza42]

The irony is how these services are going full circle, people moved to streaming because it was more convenient than pirating then - now it’s a hassle to stream.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

That doesn’t go for everyone. The piracy site I use (HDtoday) has a lot of buffering on shows and constant ads for hot ladies and Temu.

[@mrfrenly]

100%

[@adcraziness1501]

Disney needs to feel the pain for even taking that slimy, disgusting position. They need to lose every subscriber. Y'know actually watch this Disney. Disney+ -1

[@nairocamilo]

Heh Got a chuckle out of me

[@RPG_Guy-fx8ns]

After this, ALL arbitration clauses should be made illegal

[@joi8674]

I dislike disney as much as the next person but they have the SAME clause in their disney world website too. Disney + isn't the reason disney can't be sue, it's the disney world fine print.

[@cybercifrado]

Pretty sure you meant, "Disney ++ungood".

[@kamurotetsu4860]

@@joi8674 Which is a great reason to never give Disney any of your money.

[@koboldsage9112]

Putting something in her food that they specifically told her was not in the food sounds like murder. You cannot arbitrate murder cases.

[@donkalzone6671]

If u steal it from them, they cant claim ownership about your soul.

[@Cronama]

I've made arguments about forced arbitration, and people have told me, "Oh, nothing will be done about it." I hope this is the tipping point about what people are forced to accept.

[@LFPGaming]

you can literally see at 7:37 how the micstand enters the refractory period.... it's sad to watch

[@sheerbeauty]

💀

[@bropoke6799]

the worst part is that the husband never actually paid for disney+. He only had the free trial

[@MrJCerqueira]

when the matter is criminal, arbitration is void. the family should absolutely press criminal charges against the particular staff & sue the company.

[@nimblegoat]

Not the case here though probably , eg that Rust director wasn't guilty - he could still be sued under civil law. Thankfully I'm in NZ - Disney can't try this BS here or say in EU

[@pancakerzzz]

@@nimblegoat the rust thing was literally due to a technicality. he got off because prosecution didn't properly submit all of the evidence. which is bs. i'm sure there are lawyers who would be willing to take this case against disney

[@nimblegoat]

@@pancakerzzz Yeah I hope Disney pays out big, as for Rust not sure if pay out already. I've been an employer, you can be liable for your employees actions. Luckily in my 20 years of business nothing major . just usual messups put right at time with listening to customer and putting it right

[@Waccoon]

Criminal negligence is the most obvious route. It fills that nice grey area between civil and criminal cases.

[@nimblegoat]

@@Waccoon Yeah I'm not a USA citizen that sounds plausible , but charges like that are hard to stick as normally need to show 4 things , if one is in doubt they get off . that's why smart fraudsters pretend to be stupid business men . sorry lost all your money on expenses and poor management control

[@st.altair4936]

Please never pay corporations for things you can just pirate. Choose safety.

[@Cubeytheawesome]

I doubt we can trust piracy sites either, because mine has constant ads for porn. They don’t interrupt the shows, but it’s hard getting to watch it.

[@st.altair4936]

@@Cubeytheawesome For streaming? I have yet to see any ads on flixhq And for ublock origins removes all ads everywhere for the most part.

[@nilkonom]

@@Cubeytheawesome have you never heard of ublock origin?

[@YISTECH]

​@@Cubeytheawesomethey're just ads, Einstein. Use ad blocker. Piracy sites need money after all to keep running and that's fine. It's the uploaders you need to worry about. As long as an uploaders reputation is good you have nothing to fear. Stop talking like an ignorant fool

[@ZxRipredxZ]

​@@Cubeytheawesome use ad block and torrent them instead of streaming them

[@travist.7279]

The time has come for some high court to rule that these "EULA's" (those dreaded "I Agree" buttons) are void, unenforceable, and possibly illegal. First, any click of "I Agree" is done under duress----as the only other option is to junk the new product and throw your money away. Second, the average person does not have the means to hire a contract lawyer every time they purchase a new product (yes, those "agreements" are that complicated).

[@cmudd9788]

It's obvious to anyone with a brain that bloated contracts are meant to deceive people and that right there be enough to make them illegal. If you have intent to deceive someone, you are a criminal.

[@PappaTom-ub3ht]

They probably are void under standard contract law anyways. in order for a contract to be valid both parties need to be in agreement about the contract. And you can't agree to something you have no knowledge of.

[@LarsaXL]

Not only are they that complicated. In a year or two you're going to get another 30+ pages document with a cheerful note that they have updated the agreement and you have no choice but to click "agree".

[@Atoll-ok1zm]

Piracy is usually a matter of convienence but now apparently its a matter of self preservation.

[@TheCebulon]

Why is there are connection between visiting a park and signing up to a TV streaming service? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@technocolossus]

Well obviously they're slimy enough to go for it. The question is, "How the hell could that hold up in court?"

[@itsalwayssomething7490]

Do people read the TOS for Disney +? It probably says they can kill you in some language that can be twisted by a lawyer.

[@justinterested5819]

The real question is how you can sign away all your rights. I get it. If someone does shit at Disneyworld that does get them killed, Disney should not be liable. But following basic information like if something is save for someone, this should overrule any Agreement.

[@madbradfreeman]

NO. Just, no! Did they get into the park for free because they subscribed to Disney-? They did not. Was their meal free because of their subscription? NO. Disney can't have it both ways!

[@gloriousapplebees]

They didn't even get into the park, this location is not in Epcot or Disney land/world. It is in Disney Springs, a place where you do not even need a ticket to enter. This is a huge part of this situation that everyone is overlooking that only makes it way worse for Disney

[@MrBeetsGaming]

Keep in mind that this man who was clearly a loyal Disney customer is only suing for $50,000 in damages from a company that made almost 90 billion dollars last year and this is how they chose to handle the situation......

[@Argoon1981]

Indeed money above lives is the mantra for this evil inhuman corporations. And some people think big evil corporation like Wayland in the Alien universe, or Tyrell Corporation in Blade Runner and others, is unrealistic, but no is a accurate mirror of the real world, is how some huge corporations really behave.

[@M33f3r]

Damn dude needs to add a few zeros to that amount.

[@LtksK]

He is suing for just 50k, because the restaurant isn't Disney owned. Disney just has the information on their website that you can get allergene free food at the restaurant. I can be wrong on this detail, but as far as I know they don't even claim that every food in this restaurant is free of allergenes. If that's true, Disney isn't at fault for them ordering food that isn't save. That's something they have to communicate with the Restaurant. Also just as far as I know they did ask the restaurant and the restaurant made false claims. That's why he also sues the restaurant for a way bigger sum. If all of that is correct, the only thing Disney is responsible for is the informations on their website, which possibly aren't even wrong. I still agree that the arbitration thing is still complete bullshit and Disney needs to be criticized for it. I'm all in for that. I just don't think Disney shouldn't be criticized for something that isn't their fault. And regarding the arbitration bullshit: It has absolutely nothing to do with the Disney+ free trial. Disney clearly stated that the arbitration clause they are referring to is from the account the couple made on their website to buy the tickets. That account is recent and directly connected to their stay at Disney and thus their visit at the restaurant.

[@stoves5877]

that's incorrect. He is suing for at LEAST 50k. That's what the FL law states you have to say. He is going to ask for a lot more.

[@Deathrape2001]

$50,000 is a ridiculously low amount for a 'wrongful death' type $uit against a big corporation so E Z 2 win = he is clearly insane. Should start at 5 million & up from there. N E jury will give it 2 him.

[@MalakianM2S]

You sometimes hear the trope of people having a special place in hell, but Disney has several condo complex fully booked for all their executives and legal people.

[@wcjerky]

Disney using the ninth circle for their Frozen attraction.

[@sobieckil07]

At this point I believe Hell was founded predominantly for Disney executives and lawyers, with some extra sprinkle of others like Hitler and Stalin.

[@leonro]

​@@sobieckil07Disney execs must be their secret descendants

[@andrewstambaugh240]

You're right about creating villains: Punish the average last abiding citizen who stops local crime, instead of the criminal? There go your Walmarts, targets, and men who go out of their way to stop harm they see happening. They are surprised when they invert morality - and get inverted morality.

[@gallynuts]

It was a Disney trial free for one month. Dude didn’t even pay for it.

[@notspm9157]

He accepted the TOS when he decided to look at the menus and then name Disney in the lawsuit because of it. This is the lawyers looking at Disney who has the largest pocketbook and saying lets add them into the lawsuit so they get bad press and want to settle

[@InfernosReaper]

@@notspm9157 The funny thing is in the previous video on this, it was established that the Disney+ ToS didn't trump the location ToS, which does allow for suing them, as per state law

[@chitlitlah]

@@notspm9157 I see they went for the bad press option.

[@Spazza42]

@@notspm9157what did he sign though? No signsture.

[@xBINARYGODx]

@@notspm9157 it was a Disney restaurant, and he didn't need to look at the menu to know that, and the whole setup of that place was not killing you over food allergies/etc., and the restaurant, owned by Disney, with a TOS that permits you to sue them if they fuck up, didn't in fact fuck up. Under any normal circumstance, the company owning the restaurant would have settled fast - but Disney is a pile of shit that is almost the worst if not the worst (Google and FB are perhaps more evil) and wants to not pay a thing even though they are in fact entirely responsible. Are you suggesting a man's wife dying because a restaurant fucked up would not lead him to sue if its was not-Disney? We have a mountain of history to show you are wrong, and in many cases, much worse than a settlement happens to that location or the whole franchise. You post makes you seem like a pathetic corporate simp - I sure hope you are from the upper classes since anything else is baffling in its levels of self own.

[@ajthesquirrel]

Their lawyers learned that trick from the recent Scientology lawsuits. If the court or government can find a way to avoid responsibility, they will.

[@saschamayer4050]

Scientology and Disney have a lot in common... 😏

[@feldamar2]

Write up a legal agreement that says "by agreeing to see me, you agree to also give me all your money" And then only let them see the agreement after they see you. If they don't like that, that's on them. That's the paperwork THEY put into their "product"

[@ObscureStuff420]

That wouldn't be valid contract because there is no consideration. It's the reason people sell things for $1.00 and don't just give them away. There generally has to be some exchange of value

[@feldamar2]

@@ObscureStuff420 I agree with you. But they also have EULA on free products as well that then sell our privacy.

[@alazarbisrat1978]

@@feldamar2 there is the argument that advertisements and data-grabbing IS the consideration so they're taking their value without exactly telling you how

[@natthekiwi7074]

Never go based on rating on Amazon. Always look at the one Star reviews. Compare the hate comments basically and see what aspects get consistently complained about

[@physetermacrocephalus2209]

That opening story is the definition of how law and order gets thrown aside as a means of persuing justice in favor of violence. Such vile forms corporatism and legalism ars not just bad because its greedy; it actually undermines and destabalizes society in much more serious ways.

[@nerdicusdorkum2923]

If that ever happened to me, and I cannot get them to admit their fault in any way that matters, there will be two less Disney executives. One for the person I loved, and one for me.

[@carlosh9476]

Why would Disney even pursue this?? The damage this would do to their brand appears higher than whatever payout related to the lawsuit. I…. Don’t get it.

[@baxter1252]

They've crossed over into cartoon villain territory.

[@eriottomakurashi]

Do u think people care? So many abuses happen and I bet most don't even know about their headlines

[@DigitalMoonlight]

Joe Sixpack didn't care the last dozen times they did something horrendous, why would Joe Sixpack care now?

[@nomoredlc593]

it´s just principles,really disturbing ones but principles. to apply their point of view at all costs

[@InfernosReaper]

Plus, *legally* they have no leg to stand on, because the park ToS allows for patrons to sue, due to state laws, and the park ToS specifically says it trumps any other Disney ToS

[@donaldissitt1082]

0:50 most pregnant pause in cinematic history

[@Fail-harold]

I'm gonna need you to elaborate on what the hell this means

[@rajaspoorna6405]

"Pregnant" has a slightly different meaning here. It means filled with something here. That pause is filled with meaning.

[@macdhomhnaill7721]

@@Fail-haroldMeans you ought become more well-read and expand your vernacular.

[@kristyandesouza5980]

​@@macdhomhnaill7721sounds passive-agressive

[@erwins_arm]

​@@macdhomhnaill7721no

[@reykoranteng9089]

There is NO WAY disney gets away with this one. I know that there is a stereotype here where people call the US a corporate-controlled dystopia, but DAMN.

[@misterx420]

Disney doesn't make anything worth pirating!

[@asura2020]

They buy it though, slowly but surely Disney is taking over all kinds of media.

[@baxter1252]

Not anymore. A lot of their old stuff is worth getting your hands on without giving them money (pirate or buy used) if you don't already have it.

[@misterx420]

@@asura2020 Buying the rights to something doesn't mean you created it. When Michael Jackson bought the rights to The Beatles catalog back in the 80s, it didn't make him the fifth Beatle.

[@yensteel]

Blu-ray is the best way. Buy them on second hand stores or for cheap, and do what you want with it. Same with CDs. You can remove scratches of most CDs with a specific tool. Got a lot of flac from genuine CDs.

[@RicardoSantos-oz3uj]

@@asura2020 And thanks to unauthorized copying they have never been able to hide things.

[@darekm6859]

Didn't that arbitration agreement come from a 1 month trial? The guy never actually paid for Disney+.

[@nguyenchu7378]

And you think that same clause is not also applied to those who paid? The mental gymnastic you are on is mind-blowing.

[@obscure.reference]

@@nguyenchu7378 he isn’t saying anything that contradicts that

[@nonpondo_]

​@@nguyenchu7378 I think you're taking the wrong point from the comment

[@Hobbyblasphemist]

@@nguyenchu7378you’re both on the same side, at some point you will realise this

[@heatblayze]

@@nguyenchu7378 I don't think that was this person's point mate.

[@Kai.Fennec-Arts]

1:46 my fav part! 😂

[@DnBGolf]

I saw your comment as i got to that part, lol

[@Aurumfae]

@@DnBGolfme too 😂😂😂

[@brandonchappell1535]

​@@DnBGolf haha me too, finally the algorythm doing its job!!

[@bradadams3480]

I paused and this comment was right here at this exact time 😂

[@josejj]

I’m sending this time stamp to my coworkers

[@SydsKingdom]

And if you have a DVD or BluRay that is connected to the internet, disconnect it, as who know what they will do, heard stories of players being shut down so you can not play disc you own.

[@kenmck7802]

The thing is, these streaming "services", current "aaa/aaaa" game companies They got NOTHING I would EVEN, sail the high seas for. The crap they all seem to have now, they could offer it to me for free and I'd still say, "no thanks, keeeeppp walking".

[@R4G4M3MN0N]

Lol glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks that.

[@JamesTDG]

EXACTLY! When I'm going onto whatever site has the stuff I want, it's typically older shit! The ONLY time in the last 5 years I bothered to get something new was Deadpool and wolverine.

[@MonkeyMarkMario]

@@JamesTDG Same and did not regret watching that. Totally an epic movie!

[@saschamayer4050]

Yeah. It's really bad. Good thing is, more time for other hobbies. 😎👍

[@ran_red]

Damn, I'm so early I beat the bot

[@rossmanngroup]

I'm so early my wife left me for a real influencer

[@bryantony9836]

​@@rossmanngroup😊

[@KarlHamilton]

With a name like that, you are the bot.

[@Hallelujah666]

@@rossmanngroup hahah Good joke Louis

[@ran_red]

@@rossmanngroup Find solace in the fact that at least we can use Grayjay instead of this shit 🥳 See, we don't even need the bot.

[@GuretoSefirosu]

Who else remembers "The Pirate Bay" or Skidrow? Oh how about how when Skyrim was released, the pirated version was stable and players could enable 4GB RAM support while the legit version crashed and only used 2GB of RAM?

[@Sammmeow]

Remember? Still use Triple Peanut Butter for videos 😆

[@qui-gonsgin8747]

But things like Skyrim that are actually good I wouldn't Pir4te, the devs deserve their money. Or has Bethesda become this bad nowadays?

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@qui-gonsgin8747 have you looked at Starfield lately?

[@kizurura]

​@@qui-gonsgin8747fallout 76? Did we forget?

[@_.Sc.y]

pirate bay and skidrow still exist

[@aycoded7840]

The way we’ve allowed a climate for a company to feel comfortable doing this. Do not forget, Disney would torture you for money if they could. Regulate regulate regulate

[@macdhomhnaill7721]

*Guillotine Guillotine Guillotine

[@clementpruvost8670]

The way to procure content on the internet in the early 2000s strikes once again. Fortunately, I have been trained to sail the high seas at a really young age.

[@DacLMK]

Since I live in a region that's often forgotten or gets limited (the Balkan, specifically N.Macedonia), I've learned from a young age to torrent. Every person here that knows how to turn on a computer has pirated something in their life. I've never had netflix, even in its heyday, and I've exclusively pirate everything. Only for media that I truly love I will pay, and in a physical form (especially music, manga, books and so on). Plus piracy here is technically legal, so I don't have to worry about it. Many people from here who live in the west to work (Germany, France, Austria, Denmark and so on), come here to pirate many things, especially movies and software.

[@kaden-sd6vb]

I unfortunately lack knowledge of piracy, and know nobody able to teach me So im just kinda screwed

[@lizcademy4809]

@@kaden-sd6vb Nope. I learned how to use a torrent server when I was in my 50s, based on just hearing that they existed at a party.

[@theangriestcatintheworld]

​@@kaden-sd6vbSame here 😢

[@40wink]

​@@kaden-sd6vbthere are lots of places that can teach you, if you're willing to learn (not a question of if you can or not)

[@piperbarlow1672]

Forced arbitration should be illegal.

[@vaaaaaas]

You should not even pirate Disney. They want you dead. You should want it back.

[@macdhomhnaill7721]

Bingo. We ARE at war with these people.

[@privateagent]

My kids don't even like watching Disney movies. We are winning this battle!

[@pud469]

To the people saying you should have read the agreement........ Corporations are betting that you don't have time to read 30 pages of the most boring material ever. Not to mention it's worded to intentionally confuse people. Most TOS can be simplified into a few lines with the legal BS under it. This is intentional, and a scumbag practice.

[@ardeof]

I remember when Tim Hortons was selling "gluten-free" stuff. I was taught and trained initially long before gluten free was even a fad that if a customer asks, there's no guarantee about allergy prevention. There's a good reason for this, nobody in the store is trained for such a thing, I doubt even the cook is. So I explained this to the person who was baffled that a restaurant could try selling something allegedly gluten free, yet have no guarantees about such a product being safe to consume in the first place. The person ended up escalating to the supervisor/manager and it was a load off my shoulders lmao.

[@321CatboxWA]

Bot

[@ardeof]

@@321CatboxWA What? Lol

[@9hoot789]

@@ardeof people are mistaking real comments for bots now (but it's not hard to double check if a comment was made by a bot, so, they could also just be trolling) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@legionofanon]

​@@ardeofsimpler explination, gf items are made in a place that also handles items with gluten and they may be "contaimnated" even if all ingrediants are gf for their item

[@ardeof]

@@legionofanon Makes sense. I guess in that specific scenario it's justified, but there's also things like people allergic to tomatoes or questioning peanut butter situation, etc.

[@evalangley3985]

The definition of... "Buying yourself PROBLEMS..."

[@SimGunther]

Also known as "pay to lose"

[@De4dSp0t]

I didn't know this story and literally gasped out loud when you said she died. That's awful, I can't even imagine watching your wife die like that, it's not a slow death and you have to sit there and watch with nothing you can do because of negligence. Then after that a corporation tries to get around it like this. Everyone knows Disney has always been a giant POS but this is a new low. This makes me not even want to watch a Disney anything ever again, except they own Hollywood now, so I can certainly understand why Piracy is getting more and more like the right choice. If the legal system won't hold them responsible then their customers should, by pirating their content. You earn my time and money by offering a quality product/service and standing behind it, when something goes wrong you make it as right as you can, if you don't you don't deserve anything except to fail.

[@TheTrytix]

Imagine this BS, right? You and your wife go to Disneyland, and you and your wife go to a restaurant to eat something. You tell the waiter or waitress there that "My wife is deathly allergic to this substance, could you make sure she doesn't get that for her meal?" 15 minutes later, as you eat the food you were provided, your wife dies of an allergic reaction. Who's at fault? The staff at the restaurant who is Disney's priority, meaning Disney themselves are guilty. You sue Disney, and should expect a 50k fine back from them. Disney then tells ya: "Oh, no you can't sue us for killing your wife. You signed a contract when you purchased Disney+ back in 2019 and only for 2019. That contract means you are not allowed to sue us for anything, ever." In essence, Disney tells you to that if they KILL your family member, they are fully within their legal right to do so, because you got a free trial for Disney+ to watch the Mandalorian that one time. Meaning, if you value the safety of your family members, you DON'T get Disney+ trough THEIR ways, you pirate it, because piracy now a days DOESN'T harm ANYONE in your family, turns out. Who could have guessed? Giving corporations money means they can screw you over whenever they bloody well feel like it. You PAY them to SCREW you over. See how that is not fair in any capacity whatsoever? So yeah... Even though I see myself as a law-abiding citizen and follow it to the best of my ability... I will STILL say that you are perfectly within your right to pirate these things. Because Disney is actively making it a better option.

[@MtGYoungMage]

They didn’t even pay for Disney plus, it was a free trial.

[@logyz450]

3:21 When it comes to burning books, yes the paper ones ignite better but digital is much much more efficient and thorough. You will own nothing and we can change history at any given time, and you will like it!

[@M33f3r]

Buy old encyclopedias. You might be amazed by how much they have changed. As an example, In the 1970s the holocouzt is not even mentioned.

[@Dexter01992]

The mic stand is falling apart raises another topic. Who else noticed brand new stuff lately is more and more often sold in unacceptable state? My 2 years old headphones broke 2 months ago, I tried to do makeshift fixes to it to keep going, but soon after the battery died and *nearly simultaneously* the socket for the charger went loose and it's now nearly impossible to keep it on. I regrettably went to a shop to buy a new pair for a similar tier of cost (150€), and the new ones were already having massive problems right from the start. I went back for a replacement. It's been 3 week and they are *already* having issues. This is extending to nearly everything I'm forced to replace lately. I am now giving for granted that anything brand new I buy will most likely malfunction within months. Yes, it's under warranty. But considering they keep blaming consumers for polluting, it is frustrating to see how much stuff is designed to be on the edge of breaking "any moment now" and not repairable.

[@vincentvoncarnap]

yeah its the enshittification of everything, need more profits? just make the product way cheaper to produce but charge the same!

[@darkraven-666]

I stopped buying wireless headphones after yet another left airpod failed just outside of warranty. They're un-repairable, overpriced landfill.

[@tigerscott2966]

The only way to get their attention is to Cut off their money supply. Stop buying Their products and paying for their Subscription services.

[@valkyrie-randgris]

Ya know, there's a weird sentiment around not using evil services right now tbh. Like, I'm not remotely naive enough to assume my personal buying power, or even thousands of folk's buying power at once means jack fuck to a company (it's their public image and the whims of a capricious and moronic investor/shareholder class that matter), but I avoid amazon and disney and other shit at every opportunity (i.e. I KNOW that the company or product comes from or benefits them. Because it IS increasingly hard to keep up with how far the monopoly has spread) just because it's the right thing to do. And it's genuinely not even fucking hard? And then I'll hear about folk who just... DON'T do that? People my age, people who have an ear to the ground re: the tacky horror of late stage capitalism. And it's like.... Fucking WHY?? How hard is it REALLY to limit your feeding of these fuckers? Of COURSE you personally aren't going to be the one chosen one who makes them bleed, but how hard is it, REALLY, to be the SLIGHTEST bit aware and conscious of where your money goes? I mean ffs. These are the same companies convincing you that you can save the goddamn world via paper fucking straws while they suck up the entire energy grid, and your dumb fuck ass will buy the "every bit counts" rhetoric from THEM, but can't conceive of the same idea for yourself??? Don't vote with your cash because you expect to see some impossible, juvenile, instant change for fuck sake. Do it because it's genuinely just the right fucking thing to do.