Dissecting The Vanessaverse

[@LucasBuilds]

ontario law clearly states that if you hit a man with your car hard enough to wipe his memory, you can keep him

[@dahken417]

Any comment on Ontario's rampant cloning? Is there a scientific reason Vanessa Hudgens was the template?

[@eldritchteletubby9319]

If you want, you can feed him cheese and grapes like a domestic rat!

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

"you break it you keep it"

[@af8312]

@@eldritchteletubby9319 keep him in a terrarium and hand feed him lettuce.

[@merrittanimation7721]

@@dahken417 They loved High School Musical and Zac Efron was unavailable

[@gunnysmack3163]

See, I can tell the Christmas princes apart because Amber's prince looks like a vocal republican, and Vanessa's prince looks like he would put his political alignment as "moderate" on a dating site but in reality would trap you in a conversation about alpha podcasters and NFTs on the drive to your restaurant date

[@TacticusPrime]

Now now, not all generic white guys are either Republicans and/or crypto-bros. Some of us are poor teachers with no prospects.

[@sarahgooey]

@@TacticusPrime dude are you okay

[@daltonbedore8396]

LOL

[@ashikjaman1940]

@@sarahgooey clearly not lol

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

😂😂😂

[@kiraalldredge48]

Honestly I was upset the third The Princess Switch didn't have four Vanessa's it felt like Netflix didn't actually realize what the meme around the movies even was.

[@Gafafsg]

I mean…it’s Netflix

[@mcwjes]

I was FURIOUS that they didn't have the guts to reveal that sexy Vanessa's mother is Vanessa in a gray wig and glasses! Cowards!

[@kiraalldredge48]

@@mcwjes RIGHT?! IT WAS RIGHT FUCKING THERE! It was perfect!

[@elthereall]

maybe next time we’ll get 5 vanessa’s to make up for it. I haven’t given up on them yet 😂

[@ellenolnils9434]

I read somewhere that they actually wanted Vanessa to play four characters in the third one but she said no. Playing three characters in one movie was hard on her mental health already.

[@oppakunn328]

A thing to note that the Vanessa verse countries are not only European inspired but also Eastern European countries. Aldovia is clear mix between Moldova and Romania (the movies were actually filmed at the Peles castle), Montenero is clearly motenegro and Penglia is most likely the Vanessaverse version of Hungaria where the huns were east asian instead of central asian. This means that the ottoman colonization either never took place or it ended early enough so that Moldova and Wallachia united themselves into one kingdom and anexed the balkans. The still existence of royalty also implies that the democracy was never aboloshied which means the eastern bloc never really existed in the Vanessaverse

[@clairification7206]

Or the Golden Horde never lost power in the Vogla/Don basin area. As for the monarchies all having perfect RP accents, that can be easily explained by all of them studying at Eton and Oxford, like is something that many European royalty have done over the centuries.

[@faameexplains1192]

The emergence of communism was delayed by a century

[@MT-lk7qt]

how did the soviet union work in the vanessaverse

[@humantrash1478]

@@MT-lk7qt that's gonna keep me up at night

[@hime-goblin]

East Asian Huns, as seen in Disney's Mulan? It keeps going deeper

[@NixityNullt]

The blatant evidence of political unrest (especially in the second christmas prince where there is a LITERAL WORKER STRIKE that they blatantly try to ignore and do practically nothing to help) almost makes it seem like one of the writers is trying to begrudgingly hide social commentary in the christmas movie they were forced to write. They were an english major with a dream to become a director, and this is where they end up? Writing a shitty hallmark christmas movie for netflix? Well, if this is what their dreams have come to, they might as well hide political undertones in the movie so it somewhat resembles the scripts they once hoped would make the big screen.

[@chrismorris6865]

It gives me the impression that the writers wanted to make a movie that satirizes these tropes and ends with an anti-monarchy revolution, but the idea was scrapped.

[@northstarjakobs]

@@chrismorris6865 honestly if that existed it would be super fun, like it seems like a sterotypical cozy Christmas movie and then halfway through it turns into a political thriller

[@jaredragland4707]

​@@northstarjakobs right? Hiding that movie inside an actual Hallmark rip-off is a stroke of sinister genius...or would have been.

[@chrismorris6865]

@@jaredragland4707 Maybe call it Red Christmas, have it start like one of these movies but it ends with a guillotine lol

[@stellamalke1585]

Hey, A Christmas Prince is a great franchise. Succession drama, secret adoptions, lies and treachery, political and economic unrest, supernatural curses, worker strikes, AND Christmas? I like it as much as some girls like Twilight.

[@NovaBlueNova]

I love when "economic turmoil" is shown in movies about royalty. It's always shown as a "real downer" for the royals so they throw a party while ignoring the peasants dying in the streets because they have no heating and it's eternally Christmas.

[@hailthequeenFM]

It looks like the lead writer for these movies are fans of The Red Death by Edgar Allen Poe.

[@thomaskole9881]

I desperately need someone to write a fanfic of the second film where the strikes escalate into an actual violent revolution, and these Christmas obsessed royals must face the harsh reality of their own failures tearing the country apart.

[@rosie_horror_pictureshow]

I wonder if Lindsey Lohan fits into the Vanessaverse? Theres a shot of her watching A Castle for Christmas in her Christmas film

[@akitalockwood]

Someone on tumblr pointed out that one character is reading a book written by the protagonist from A Castle for Christmas

[@redrenegade13]

It was my great honor to be the 666th person to give this comment a thumbs up. That seems appropriate 😂

[@tortis6342]

Dun dun dUNNNN

[@joonlily]

24:50

[@ChaosSolEternal]

I misheard giant blizzard as giant wizard and I was so intrigued. My disappointment was immense when I realized there is no wizard.

[@zillionalb462]

😂😂😂

[@ANite-vx1vk]

Wait, *Blizzard*?? I heard Lizard. Was very confused but just went with it because, well, Netflix movie. That makes a whole lot more sense.

[@Owain9797]

I wouldn’t count out wizards so soon. How else would we get so many Vanessi?

[@qamarat8366]

@@ANite-vx1vk blizzard wizard with a lizard familiar

[@RatKingShriggy]

i thought she said giant lizard and for a second i was like "well maybe dragons are real in the vanessaverse. what do i know? it's christmas!"

[@ash_eats_film]

Kristen explaining the basic white men as spreadable had me on the floor I can’t 😂

[@mollywantshugs5944]

Anyone is spreadable with the right attitude

[@junomonsoon]

@@mollywantshugs5944 pure unfiltered wisdom

[@charlieclark9552]

As a white guy, how can I be spreadable oh right the infernal recipe that is mayonnaise

[@jasminelambert3753]

It reminds me of how my step sister and I refer to our sister and her husband as white bread people. Very basic and bland and hetero and Christian lol I get the same vibes as the spreadable men

[@mayurisama3003]

Spreadable and boring 👌

[@HodgepodgeGlittergourd]

“What happened to the ottoman empire Vanessa?” is my fav youtube quote of the year!

[@Laurabeck329]

It's honestly upthere with "Sell their houses to who Ben? Fucking Aquaman?"

[@yourlocaltheatrekid900]

I'm going to quote this in my daily life now

[@WinterPains]

@@Laurabeck329 Whats this one from?

[@Laurabeck329]

@@WinterPains hbomberguy's video on climate denial. Highly recommend it

[@WinterPains]

@@Laurabeck329 Thanks

[@luiguigi]

this is just like in the nickelodeon childrens sitcom cinematic universe where drake and josh and icarly and a bunch of other shows exist as shows in the same universe that the actual show takes place in

[@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks]

Quinton Reviews intensifies

[@LeviathanLP]

Right? It's like some kind of kaleidoscope-shaped universe, and all you can do is wonder what's holding it all together

[@fupsies6045]

Gosh, I can't believe they never addressed how a large part of the Balkans have been unified for at least 600 years. Truly this is the Vanessaverse's greatest plot hole.

[@Vermbraunt]

And that Constantinople was never conquered. Like is Aldovia meant to be a successor to the Byzantines? are they like a successful Latin empire?

[@galaxygirlstudio5347]

No. The biggest plot hole is how the hell Brook, a TEACHER, has a mansion.

[@gwenndolyncampbell1560]

@@galaxygirlstudio5347 Family money, next question.

[@foxglove6188]

My science teacher claims that he dated Vanessa Hudgens when they were in highschool but she left him for Zac Efron

[@0gammag0]

That’s wonderful

[@endivia954]

...a SCIENCE teacher? the story about how he never got over that and started cloning Vanessa Hudgens and then invented time travel to fix the mess resulting in these movies just writes itself

[@edithsdeathtrials4028]

HEYYY BOOKIE

[@MizuShadowWolf]

But which one??

[@439801RS]

@@MizuShadowWolf all of them and more

[@notatallfunctional]

Ok but the butter and margarine analogy your business partner made was so on point. I was already able recognize which was which, but I couldn’t for the life of me explain what made them look different.

[@0gammag0]

BUSINESS PARTNER 💀

[@eldritchteletubby9319]

A new term for lesbian partners that historians use just dropped. They're roommates, best friends, or business partners.

[@MyChannel773]

and historians will say they were business partners

[@verycoolwhaleshark]

and they were business partners

[@ShaunCheah]

oh my God they were business partners

[@gegnabean]

I love how both you and Jenny Nicolas have both decided that these movies are secretly very insidious and all about evil Christmas society’s.

[@696190]

*Nicholson *societies

[@Lolo50000]

I think Strange has referenced her watching Jenny and Sarah Z in the past so it may be a continuation of the same school of thought

[@lateromantic]

Was looking for an acknowledgment of Jenny somewhere in these comments 👀

[@MkatSims]

Scientific consensus

[@Lolo50000]

@@MkatSims peer review

[@maggot_renegade5921]

I propose a theory. Within the Vanessaverse, the films are not fictional films like Marvel films. But are instead actually biographic or documentary in nature. There for the night learned from a documentary and not a movie. And that would mean they either hired the real life people to play themselves or hired look-a-likes to fill the roles, or we have been watching the bio pics and Vanessa is actually apart of a studded family of triplets (atleast) and is the number one actress in this universe

[@hi-um7ru]

i mean theres already at least 4 vanessa hudgenses canonically, it wouldnt be too surprising if there was another one out there who was an actor. presumably she wasnt famous before the movies were made otherwise one of the other vanessas would have seen her

[@emmaoof3335]

i think they are less documentaries and more fictionalized historical events think of like Hamilton (especially with the actors playing multiple roles, the very sensationalized yet also very "sanitized" moments)

[@maggot_renegade5921]

@@emmaoof3335 biopics?

[@emmaoof3335]

@@maggot_renegade5921 yeah i do mean biopics in general but i like to specifically believe it is that universes equivalent to Hamilton

[@maggot_renegade5921]

@@emmaoof3335 all good, i was just making sure I understood because I can be slow

[@sophiahalili8764]

that butter/margarine comparison is so so incomprehensible but very correct

[@jackie6288]

“WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE, VANESSA HUDGENS?” is now my favorite quote ever

[@Localbisexual]

I watched Jenny Nicholsons video on a christmas prince 1 and 2, but I didnt realize the lore got this deep. What new Vanessa lore will we uncover next christmas

[@thecatlurking]

I also didn't recognize it was the actress from iZombie until now? An icon.

[@Blindinglights25]

@@thecatlurking omg what? You are right.

[@harry_ord]

@@thecatlurking my lesson for today, thank you.

[@arcana5335]

Important to note: Behind the Cardinal were some Swiss Guards. From which we can kinda infer that Switzerland and their relationship with the Vatican is unchanged from our world alongside Scotland.

[@teathesilkwing7616]

Switzerland, the pope, and Scotland are static points in the multiverse and are unable to be changed

[@DeathWishDiva]

The fact I’ve seen all these movies on streaming services and have adamantly refused to watch them and then you post a video like this feels like a cosmic sign.

[@zillionalb462]

Same, I didn't realise that there were so many, I kinda thought they were all the same

[@laurielmaoo]

as a scottish person i’m honestly kinda honoured that they had no notes for adapting scotland for the vanessaverse… 10/10

[@pitalovr]

I’ll never be able to look at Vanessa the same after the “People are gonna die … which is terrible 😒… but, like, inevitable??”

[@SenatorAwesomesauce]

Somewhere there’s a world where the princess switch franchise continues indefinitely and eventually it becomes about a world where all human life on earth is replaced with Vanessa Hudgens.

[@kittymarie397]

I definitely heard "a giant lizard traps them in the palace" which is infinitely more exciting than a blizzard

[@perryekimae]

Watching a StrangeAeons video is, for me, like going to a class where you could not care less about the subject, but the teacher loves talking about it so much that you can't help but enjoy every minute of it. Never heard of these movies. Will not watch them. Absolutely enjoyed this video!

[@ashleyrich8526]

I am always pleasantly surprised by the freshly baked and aromatic content placed in front of me by father strange. Life is good

[@2cat4life]

i read that as aromantic for a second lol

[@lunaakuma5044]

I always read the word aromatic as aromantic and I was like "but they're straight romance movies..."

[@sayven]

@@2cat4life Several seconds in fact.

[@Iachesism]

so we all read that as aromantic

[@Meleedroit]

@@Iachesism I went from reading aromantic as aromatic to reading aromatic as aromantic

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

_The Christmas Prince_ film the characters watch in _The Princess Switch_ is obviously a based-on-a-true-story movie in the Vanessaverse. I'm pretty sure in our world there's a trilogy of Hallmark-like movies about Kate Middleton and the prince William so it's not impossible

[@SeymourDisapproves]

I like to think that the based-on-a-true-story movies about these royal families in the Vanessaverse are straight up government-manufactured propaganda

[@felipedamm3172]

I must say, the answer is so obvious yet so subconsciously portrayed. We ask ourselves, who controls these universes? Who keeps bringing new Vanessas into this already broken timeline? All trails lead back to... Vanessa Hudgens herself. The old Lady from The Knight Before Christmas is in fact Vanessa from an alternate timeline because if Vanessa can duplicate herself and also can defy the laws of time and space, why shouldn't shapeshifting be on the list too? Also, If we follow that logic then the little daughter from The Princess Switch is also a shapeshifted Vanessa from a different reality. This explains the uncomfortable obsession of the daughter with her father's romantic life. They are in fact Vanessas enjoying the sensual pleasure bestowed upon their alternate selves. Trapped in this terrifying Christmas hell, the original Vanessa's only pleasure is to bring other Vanessas into this capitalist Limbo where they fall in love, marry, then change partners and marry again. Which role plays Highschool Musical Vanessa in all of this? Was she the original creator of the Vanessa Hudgens time-break, and if so what led her to such duplicitous actions? How did she come to be a certified God of time, space, and creation?

[@runeanonymous9760]

Sight is just one of many senses humans use in perceiving and identifying other people in the Vanessaverse- not like how people blind or face-blind use voice to tell people apart, but other stuff too. Because of this, there are small differences we can’t tell apart between them, which those from that universe might argue to be racist, although probably a lot of twitblr folks would say that you can’t be racist against white people or something, as Vanessae clearly come from somewhere in Europe

[@endivia954]

All will be clear when in the next installment of the Vanessaverse, it is revealed that the god the vatican is praying too is indeed also Vanessa Hudgens. I am waiting for a full Michelangelo-Painted Dome in a Church with Vanessa Hudgens on it

[@Zeffer32]

They said freaky genius girl and she said 'bet'

[@felipedamm3172]

@@endivia954 That could very much be true. I assume that the church where supposedly unruly royals are sent to is actually the church of Vanessaism where all the Vanessas from different realities are sent to if they don't comply with the original Vanessa's idea of what a Hallmark-Christmas-Girlboss-Slayqueen-protagonist is. That explains why it is so deserted and hard to reach because everyone would absolutely get mindfucked by an army of Vanessas being taught by a bunch of Vanessaist nuns how to accurately entertain their dark lord and ruler, OG (original) Vanessa Hudgens, aka Highschool Musical Vanessa Hudgens.

[@felipedamm3172]

@@runeanonymous9760 So maybe this is like a Sailor-Moonesque Universe where people forget who you are when you change clothing or hairstyles? If so very smart move of you to choose this timeline, Vanessa Hudgens.

[@friend_trilobot]

I really feel like they should incorporate the green knight (the character not the film) into this universe, for in the arthurian legend he came at Christmas to challenge knights and royals to a beheading game. I just think it would tie together the crone and knight aspect of this universe with the Chrismas-based absolute monarchy aspect

[@Viragirl95]

An epic deepdive into something ive never seen? Sign me the f*ck up

[@jedd5521]

Honestly this is Vanessa Hudgens' world and we're all just living in it.

[@ruinparadox4812]

I love the theory that The Knight Before Christmas is being orchestrated by two gods that are more than likely just bored and want a story to happen which is why they introduce time travel of all things into a rom com. In a way you could draw parallels with this theory and fanfiction, because how else do you think y/n is ever so casually just seducing every supernatural being within a 30km radius while also being one of the most unremarkable multiverse characters ever?

[@elitettelbach4247]

Calling this the Vanessaverse just feels correct. The margarine vs. butter Christmas prince distinction was insightful!

[@MizaBrega]

It is theoretically plausible in-universe that any number of Vanessa Hudgens can sit down and watch a movie together, and at some point in that movie those Vanessa Hudgens are watching any number of Vanessa Hudgens sitting down and watching a movie together, which within it features a scene where any number of Vanessa Hudgens are sitting down and watching a movie together... The Vanessaverse is in the shape of a fractal.

[@JuliaElizabethGraves]

You calling the Christmas castle a ‘death trap’ is the funniest and most accurate description in the world because the dude she has to survive with is literally the dude from Saw. I am now convinced some saw fan was very sad that the two men stuck together in a bathroom did not canonically fall in love, so they decided to write a fanfiction about it and somehow got it made into a straight hallmark movie

[@bogwife7942]

you're telling me adam and lawrence _weren't_ smooching passionately every time the lights were off??

[@JuliaElizabethGraves]

@ that’s the opposite of what I’m saying actually, as a I have read a fair bit of fanfic already

[@hatimzeineddine8723]

The map at 19:12 is a one of the maps of all time. If it's meant to be geographically accurate then holy shit what did ya'll do to Finland my guys, and if it's not then why not? The royal family can afford maps presumably. If you look closely you can see the word "GERMANIA" stretching out in paired letters from what we would consider central germany out towards the donbass, which implies some sort of germanization of almost the entirety of eastern europe? Penglia seems to be some sort of mongol successor state, and the fact that their border doesn't actually touch Belgravia but they're long standing allies implies the existence of some third, hostile power in at least Crimea and the southern steppe. And let's not even get into Aldovia which is some sort of south slavic super state reaching as far north as Czechia and Austria but that doesn't control Albania and Greece? And if Aldovia and Belgravia and potentially even Penglia are presumably catholic nations then what happened to the orthodox church? There must have been some sort of protestant reformation if Scotland and the USA are exactly the same but the reach of the Catholic authorities is much greater. And yet the pope was reduced in secular power to just the Vatican city as in our timeline, which brings up some interesting questions as to the state of the Italian peninsula.

[@HW-sw5gb]

It’s a real map with the fake counties just photoshopped in. Any weirdness in the map aside from the fake countries can be blamed on irl medieval cartographers

[@hatimzeineddine8723]

@@HW-sw5gb I choose to believe that it is a 100% accurate and up to date map, and europe is just hella ugly in this timeline

[@jello4835]

This is giving "Toronto is under four feet of snow and I haven't left the house in a week" energy and I'm here for it

[@chrismorris6865]

Strange always knows exactly what content we need. Deep tumblr dives, cutting Onions, long furby, or Vanessaverse content, it's all excellent. Also, I was the first person to call out how evil Vanessa's intro music is a ripoff of the Cipher music from Pokemon Colosseum.

[@terrancenash5726]

will we get a vanessaverse movie about a long furbie

[@Alanmcschroeder]

The Catholic aspect of the Vanessaverse is so terrifying I’m slowly going down a tunnel of Vanessa induced insanity

[@abbey2cold]

Lindsay Lohan got her own Christmas movie, so Vanessa got a break this year.

[@melon7512]

I expect her to get involved soon enough

[@abbey2cold]

@@melon7512 Watch Lindsay join the Vanessaverse of madness.

[@akitalockwood]

I've seen a screenshot on tumblr where one of the characters is reading a book by the protagonist from A castle for Christmas. So I guess this makes her movie also part of the Vanessaverse????

[@abbey2cold]

@@akitalockwood Sounds pretty concrete-

[@ripplesripley]

oh my god I just found something while Vanessa Hudgens had previously been in theater plays as a child, her first appearance in a movie was in the 2003 movie Thirteen, in which she played the minor role of a character named Noel. the name Noel itself has a direct meaning of, you guessed it, Christmas. I believe that this fateful movie was the thing that started the Vanessaverse.

[@iain9757]

As The Princess Switch trilogy had bits filmed in Scottish cities Glasgow and Edinburgh I am bias because yay for Scotland but “A Castle for Christmas” can drown in a Loch as it’s such a mess

[@ryanbrueckner6581]

pausing to look at that map took years off my life trying to wrap my head around the implications of most of eastern europe and the balkans not existing anymore. these countries have existed since at least the 1400s means they have gone through - the renaissance - the protestant reformation and the wars of religion - the enlightenment - the french revolution and the napoleonic wars - the revolutions of 1848 - the industrial revolution - WW1 (which considering the balkans are basically gone has SO MANY IMPLICATIONS) - WW2 - the cold war (almost all of eastern europe is now a new country in this universe… were they still under soviet control? does the soviet union even happen in this universe???) - and all of our modern problems i already have chronic headaches and migraines and at this point i wouldn’t be surprised if another movie comes out and shows they have magical headache powers and are specifically targeting me lol

[@grapes4832]

Also the fact that the entire slavonic language group is COMPLETELY gone

[@carolineholland5841]

Idk if it was just a joke but having just come from rewatching Kaz Rowe’s video about our inaccurate ideas about the Middle Ages, knights did bathe as everyone did back then. Highly recommend that video, it’s great and eye opening!

[@awesomecassiejean]

What's the name of the video? :)

[@mahrimo]

describing the love interests as the man in the tan jacket from nightvale is so big brain and i have incorporated that into my world view and vocabulary, thank you

[@alyssasalvia1596]

I have been waiting for someone to speak up about kid portrayal in media, and I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with what you said. Sometimes they're so awkwardly written as if the writer has never been a child before, and they often serve no purpose other than -you said it- a plot device for the main character. The most annoying example is some of those I-became-a-mother-to-the-child-of-the-hot-male-lead manhwas like, they can be one of the most annoying characters in the story simply for not being a properly fleshed out character. I don't even have a reason to hate the child, but the writers are making me hate a child simply because they're badly written

[@Wingers55]

Same!! I've been thinking about this for years! This is why I loved the Series of unfortunate events books so much. It kinda takes a dig at the way 'grown ups' see children.

[@meganhanson4400]

i want a silmarillon-esque text based on the history of the vanessaverse universe. it can be a movie even. just let me consume and comprehend it

[@MC-pt8kv]

My personal theory is Strange was forced to watch these by their partner and then Strange decided to air their grievance publicly.

[@JuMixBoox]

It seems clear to me that it's the other way around.

[@bogwife7942]

kristin would never do this. strange does this to herself

[@arvayahrozier4402]

I love how this weird series has brought out the unhinged conspiracy theorist in Taya. We need to see more of this side of her.

[@theletters9623]

I love that scotland is just normal scotland in this weird alternate christmas based history absolutely wild

[@lemonbrows]

I watch this whole gauntlet of movies every year, I'm obsessed. My favorite part is when the christmas prince plays "firing squad" with the orphans to prove he's down to earth. the more people that can be converted and have their valuable holiday hours wasted by the vanessaverse, the better >:^)

[@iain9757]

Not that I want to throw more drama her way but Meghan Markle getting married into the British Royal Family I do believe “revitalised” the “marriage into royalty” Trope in media, bit of a shame The Christmas Prince films are sorta “empty”

[@Eyeball44]

"A Christmas Prince: a grim dystopia" by Jenny Nicholson is a very fun dissection of the first two Christmas Prince movies, I would very much recommend watching that if you enjoyed this

[@janjanbinks1710]

This video got recommended to me right after I finished Jenny's lol. The plot thickens

[@squeemdweem]

But what you don't know is that his name is really Strange Aeons

[@bananawitchcraft]

never gets old

[@half-bloodviewer3766]

I mean if the catholic chruch has so much power, and knights are involved with a mysterious old lady that puts them to a test, the crone is likely to be the Virgin Mary... Now the question is, as Mary has redeemed Eve and become the model for all women, could it be possible that in this christmas based reality populated by an infinity of Vanessas and time travel, that the original Vanessa was indeed Mary Mother of God? p.s.: why isn't emily queen already? she's the most qualified of all the characters

[@mintjaan]

I think they should get Joseph Fink and Jeffrey Cranor (the creators of Nightvale) to write one of these movies and have them really lean into the weird alternative history and then just have that as one entry in the series that gets referenced to in later films but just exists as a weird film that only true fans will get. Also if a Netflix film exists in another, than is it a Documentary?

[@thepanicthevomit]

“The community radio host switch”

[@dliessmgg]

19:38 What fascinated me about this map is that it says "germania" over a stretch of land that goes from modern day germany all the way to ukraine. maybe aldovia and belgravia were member states of the HRE in medieval times in the vanessaverse? who knows.

[@cornflakes-does-stuff]

"you can tell we're supposed to like Simon now bc he's sad and wet" universally accepted truth about little meow meows and babygirls

[@maddieb.4282]

Facts babe

[@zillionalb462]

16:54 I feel very called out as a fanfic writer/reader... Yes we will bend the space-time continuum for the right people to smooch

[@aliciacarr9014]

Children are badly written in movies because the writers have forgotten what being a child was like.

[@yellowfizzyjellyfish]

Hello hello!! The Royal Treatment references Aldovia so technically it's a new addition to the Verse! Also also SO happy we're not the only ones who paused to obsess over a fictional map for a 25 straight minutes Love to see a fellow Vanessaverse goblin hehehehe she will never leave us in peace from her eldritch horror season

[@padisleiero]

the old lady in the knight before christmas is basically just every fanfic writer ever. making shit happen just to make your ship canon. literal fanfic writer im telling you!!! dont ask i havent seen it but im right.

[@featheredskyblue]

My theory about A Christmas Prince being a movie in the movie is that it's a biopic. It worked in The Princess Diaries books as an in-joke about the movie, so why not here!

[@MkatSims]

Or one of those lifetime movies about the real people but also not about the real people

[@Max_The_Flower]

I appreciate how The Princess Switch 3 perfectly sets up My Little Pony Make Your Mark: Winter Wishday

[@francesstewart7995]

been wetting myself laughing about the one protest sign that just says "why?" at 7:12 for like half an hour now 😭

[@noah_the_rat1056]

i watch the princess switch and the Christmas prince every year christmas doesnt feel right without them, thank you for covering the Vanessaverse it is very near and dear to my heart

[@mollywaup]

I cant believe you dropped a welcome to nightvale reference. It crushes my heart knowing I'll never bond w someone in person over the beauty of the nightvale universe

[@witchywoman2008]

Oh hell yeah. This is the most unhinged cinematic universe and I will never let go. My soul left my body watching The Princess Switch 2 and 3 due to how truly insane they are. Also the second Christmas Prince when they seriously said, with complete conviction, “the Glockenspiel Consortium”, is truly one of the greatest moments in movie history. I laugh every single time I think about it.

[@seasoundwaves]

I'm so glad that Thursday is back, he was gone for so long that I was starting to worry that the cats had eaten him

[@LeriaDendron]

The Man in the Tan Jacket is an nearly perfect simile for these men. They would be improved by the possession of a suitcase full of flies.

[@ellaisplotting]

KING CITY

[@sarahchisum9208]

A monarchy holding an extravagent and expensive ceremony while the country struggles through crushing economic hardship is just too outside of the realm of possibility, really breaking suspension of disbelief

[@Ticket2theMoon]

My mom and I watched “A Castle for Christmas“ just last night, as it is the only Netflix Christmas movie we will tolerate. And for the second year in a row, we wondered why the hell this couple checking in to the inn was given so much face time when absolutely nothing comes of their arrival. So that’s one mystery solved at least.

[@Gwel_]

Same here in Montréal when they pretend it's NYC. Sometimes you just chill downtown and suddenly you see a NY Transit bus and it's hecking confusing. Not to mention the many movies/tv series where suddenly you see a very recognizable STM bus in the background. I guess Manhattan and Montréal are both islands so it works? :')

[@DragonriderEpona]

What I always find very confusing is time traveller like in the Christmas Knight who perfectly well understand and speak modern languages. Like... have you ever read middle English? You'll barely understand anything without using a dictionary. How is Vanessa Hudgens and everyone else in these movies able to understand each other? But I do like that the made the east Asian country's writing system look Manchurian. (Though I don't get why modern royalties would wear slim fitted qipaos...)

[@verylostdoommarauder]

I like how the map at 19:12 really just reveals that Aldovia is Yugoslavia and the Czech Republic, Belgravia is Belarus and Ukraine, and Penglia is the Caucuses and some of southern Russia. This is hilariously unrealistic on multiple levels. It makes it so much better that these are Slavic monarchs pretending to be British monarchs who have somehow managed to maintain their dynasty and borders since the 15th century despite a menagerie of random forgotten wars, the Thirty Years' War, the Russian Empire expanding, Napoleon, and the World Wars.

[@trezalkapeliskova2121]

Given how many historical coronations took place on Easter, it makes sense to me that these fictional cultures (especially as influenced by the catholic church) would center their important events around another major holiday (maybe apart from the birth, because that sounds like scheduling hell). EDIT: A Christmas themed history lesson informed me that both Charlemagne and William the Conqueror were crowned on Christmas, so there's that.

[@coyotewood]

your energy at the end reminded me of bdg's unraveled series and i mean that in the best possible way. you took the vanessaverse to the fullest possible extent and kept running with it

[@thatsdisco]

haha same!

[@kisielmalinowy14]

well I did not expect to come out of this video with the conviction that netflix is actually mass producing horror movies about eastern europe being ruled by british people

[@viktorlucious6585]

If I had a nickel for every time a Christmas movie had a plot where the main character hit their love interest with their car, causing them to get amnesia, only to end up in a relationship with that person I would have three nickels. Which isn't a lot but holy hell that happened three times. (I'm not a "Christmas year round" type of guy. Just doing a mini binge of unwatched Strange Aeons videos.)

[@leopardshadow333]

The littlest creature has stripes on his tail! Either this is new as his fuzz develops or I am just noticing, either way, absolutely adorable ❤️

[@Currentlyfreezing]

Upon rewatching this I suddenly realized that their history may have been fucked up because of the knight being transported to modern times. What if that's why these kingdoms developed so differently than our civilizations did?

[@algorithm_acolyte]

We stan an early adopter of the Hudgensverse Edit: 18:19 I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE *BUSINESS* PARTNERS IT DID NOT EVEN OCCUR TO ME THAT THEY WERE ANYTHING BUT ROMANCE PARTNERS WHO HAPPENED TO RUN A BUSINESS TOGETHER

[@MkatSims]

No no they are very much dating I think it’s a joke (unless you are also joking in which case I am sorry)

[@thoopsy]

Btw if anyone is intrigued by The Christmas Prince 1 & 2 may I recommend you go and also watch Jenny Nicholson's video on them which goes further into dissecting those two films and unveiling for us the themes of deception, facade, and trickery. She doesn't bring Vanessa into it, but it was a very interesting video that made me very excited to see those two tied together to these other movies.

[@Syurtpiutha]

Are you saying that instead of the Onceler-verse we could have had a weird Vanessa-verse where everyone is Vanessa Hudgens and they are all dating? I mean, still cursed, but definitely better.

[@drskelebone]

Ok, so when the two princes popped up, I saw that one had "butch" underneath it, and was expecting the other to be labeled as well.

[@mollywantshugs5944]

I loved that time the Muppets retold a Christmas Carol and Michael Caine had to see the despair his greed caused the poor of London.

[@shriveclean]

the fact Penglia is basically the same territory as the historic Golden Horde, meaning that the nation of Penglia is a long standing Mongolian royal family is absolutely WILD

[@fairycat23]

That's legit what I thought!

[@shriveclean]

also the fact that Penglia, a Mongolian royal state, is entirely sinicized makes me want to shrivel up and die

[@fairycat23]

@@shriveclean Do we know whether it's entirely sinicized or just the king and queen? I haven't seen any of these movies so I wouldn't know.

[@shriveclean]

@@fairycat23iirc the names of the king and queen are Tai and Ming, which are deicidingly not Mongolian

[@nixxdra]

Strange, you’ve gotta make something about tumblr live. They took my search function. They ripped her right out of my hands. I have nothing left..

[@pastaman68]

the search button is still there... it's just pushed over a little to make room for the live button

[@pastaman68]

at least on android

[@roselalonde5046]

@@pastaman68 it isn't there on apple, or at least wasn't last I checked

[@nixxdra]

Yeah, I’ve heard people mention that it’s “at the top” now, but I haven’t seen anything. Luckily you can turn off the live feature in dashboard preferences in settings, which gives you back your explore page and removes those ugly things from the top of your dash, but it’s only for a week then you have to disable it again. I’m still pissed about that.

[@2nd3rd1st]

19:13 I love how it clearly says GERMANIA across Aldovia and Belgravia, that are just arbitrarily painted onto the map like the Europeans did basically everywhere in the Middle East and Africa. Poetic justice I guess?

[@melissao643]

Theory: they aren't movies within one another, they are *documentaries*

[@shillinhite3911]

Now we know that the S at the end of Vanessa Hudgens is a signifier of plurality

[@annemarievanpeer120]

...are you telling me Vanessa Hudgens is experiencing a Being John Malkovich and has lost her way in the infinite mindverse of Vanessa Hudgens? Because it sounds like it to me

[@padawanduck]

I love how when she’s comparing the two love interests at 10:28 it looks like she’s calling the other one butch

[@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155]

Vanessa Hudgens and the multiverse of Troy Bolton slapping water

[@Sonicsis]

I love the implications that people in this alternate world take bets on what crazy shenanigans goes down with the royal fam on Christmas

[@theopollind8024]

The Superwholock that she's absorbed through osmosis is coming through with this video - I love

[@mackenzireese9476]

blank male love interests in romance movies are the man in the tan jacket confirmed ! bless this reference

[@elliestewart-qc9iz]

I would just like to add that A Castle for Christmas has a singular actor that is actually from scotland

[@leszekbezbek5090]

every time i see vanessa i can only think of beastly, i like to think that beastly is also a part of this universe just because the character she plays in beastly is also a hopless romatic etc. type