Disturbed Patient Stalks Ex Psychiatrist | New Amsterdam | MD TV

[@karyannfontaine8757]

The Psychiatrist had to use his self control and keep the ex patient calm. By telling him the story of his brother, that helped the patient. Also by not telling he had company and speaking in code helped save him. The patient trusted him and left, thinking he had another appointment. Sadly, there are some people we cannot help.

[@bootyandthebeast8365]

@@Hannari-xt6nrsorry, but protecting someone's feelings is never worth risking your personal safety. He lied because that's what he had to do in that moment to protect himself. The patient literally just told Dr. Frome that he previously killed his entire family because they wouldn't help him-do you think it's wise of him to deny him help in this scenario? It sucks to have to break his trust, because we know it will only make his issues greater, but he was already beyond the point of hurting people because of his issues and at risk to do it again. The patient needs to get psychological help in a facility where he is not a danger to himself or others.

[@Wasabijo593]

@@Hannari-xt6nrlol I don’t think we’ve watched the same clip. He has clearly said earlier to this guy that he can’t help him, even got the restraining order but the guy almost had him hostage and could’ve hurt him if he didn’t made all that story and fake promises. In the end, he needed to be safe from the unstable man.

[@Wasabijo593]

@@Hannari-xt6nr lol as in LOL

[@Meanie74]

Pretty sure he was just trying not to die at that point

[@clareeade8933]

Thankfully God CAN with Him noone is unreachable! No pit too deep!!!

[@ebayrose]

"...on 9th and 11th." Husband processing...911, pause... keeps even "You got it."

[@lifewithlee6298]

I’d be to dumb to get that and be driving around I don’t see a soup 🍜 place ?!

[@AllenFern24]

Frome is legit among the best characters from this show, or at least among my favorites. Complex & multi-faceted, an awesome character.

[@ebayrose]

The ending when he's feeling bad about lying having worked. The circumstances meant this kid was no longer his patient but a threat to himself and others. He no longer felt safe being vulnerable and switched over to just trying to out smart the crazy guy in his house while he was sick and vulnerable. He really shouldn't think anything beyond that. It was probably so effective because the guy was familiar with him being this open therapist and wasn't expecting him to be capable of deceit.

[@safiremorningstar]

When your spouse is so in tune with you that he knows you're giving him a coded message.

[@arnavmekala4578]

I am not even sure if Chance wanted help from the start. It still puzzles me that he knew that he killed his family even though he told frome episodes ago a lie about how he accidentally killed them instead of purposefully killing them. So did he want help because he felt guilty even though he did it on purpose. Does this make him a sociopath? Then what help does Chance want?

[@saradapagediocletian9707]

The "help" he wanted was attention and power.

[@TheKrispyfort]

He wants someone to understand that he's concerned about why he's not feeling the way he believes he should be feeling given the circumstances that led him to being in Frome's care. He just wants someone to get it. He wants to feel valid.

[@kathrinbauer5358]

He killed his family. He probably feels guilty for killing and it's not surprising he lied about it. Aside from the legal aspect, admitting it to others will result in reactions that you do not want by your therapist. On the other hand, he was apparently a victim of some sort of abuse by his father in which his whole family was complicit. Can you imagine how betrayed and despised you would feel by the people that are supposed to live and protect you? How unfair that feels? I get why some pay of him feels that it was the right and just thing to do while another part obviously knows it was wrong. He is conflicted. And while I don't like all that psychoanalysis stuff, in this case, I do believe that his defense mechanisms keep him from confronting his feelings. That does not make him a sociopath. He felt that he was suffering from great injustice and now grapples with making sense of how reaction - was it a matter of justice or of even greater injustice that turned him from a victim to a perpetrator worse than his father?

[@stephanieflores277]

I'm a therapist and i know there are people who want to help themselves and those who do not want to do the work to self improve

[@nickerskine6326]

in this case i think he's too far gone to help.

[@Lorianne5190]

It's very contradictory the way that therapists promote themselves as a life necessity while also claiming that "self improvement" is solely the job of therapy customers. Like, can't they just get a book from the library, then? Or think things out on their own? Why do they need to pay a therapist? Why do they need to follow everything another human tells them to do and think in order to "help themselves"?

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

@@Lorianne5190Therapists show you how to help yourself.

[@derekkline8359]

I have only seen clips of this show on YT but I honestly thought when the husband came in and he said ladle soup or that shop he liked, I thought from his husbands expression after that it was a code, but this episode had so many surprises for me!

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

This seems like a case of a person who’s been so abused that they form a connection with someone who’s actually tried to help them

[@beautifuldreamer7204]

That must've been extremely difficult to tell a fictional story (except for the part of his brother died) to an ex patient for his own safety. Some people just have a hard time realizing that there's not just one particular person who can help you with your mental stability, and not just psychiatrists either. Friends, family, loved ones, and even pets can help get you through difficult times in your life (but for this guy's case, he definitely needs the professional kind of help)

[@theBlackBearrrr]

Showing up to your therapists house is INSANE work

[@shibamchatterjee9892]

Once heard of a case where a patient forced a trauma psycologist to be his mother .

[@TheKrispyfort]

Eww

[@nickerskine6326]

that's messed up!

[@eeveelover2168]

What happened exactly? Why did he force her to be his mother?

[@l.a.3479]

That doesn't make any sense. How did he "force" her?

[@shibamchatterjee9892]

@l.a.3479 i too don't know heard it from my grandma .She didn't say how he did it .

[@Wendy-Texas]

Oh this dude is nuts

[@stephenking5852]

Remember that comedy, What About Bob? This is the realistic version.

[@l.a.3479]

Uh, no.

[@CourtneyOvid]

My husband and I have a code word we would only use if we were in an emergency situation. That’s something very important to have.

[@__LVart]

How is it even posible that not one person in that family would step up to protect him? I know it's a show, but things like this that happen, unfortunately. I truly can't wrap my mind around how...

[@annatribe4244]

Everyone knew my mother was an alcoholic and that she abused just me but they never did anything about it. They saw all the bruises, the blood and still didn't do anything. They knew my mother hated me and no one ever stood up for me. Then when she died just before I turned 20 they blamed me for it, for the last words I'd spoken to her before I left for the very last time. She had just gotten out of rehab for the 10th time and had asked me to come up to visit her with my husband so he drove me. He stayed outside with my stepdad while I went inside to see her. She was sitting up in bed and when she saw me she got excited and for a moment I thought she was going to apologise for her being abusive my whole childhood but no. The first words that came out were I'm so glad you are here, can you go to the store and buy alcohol, wine, whatever. I told her no. She then said her doctor said it was OK for her to drink alcohol on a social occasion and me visiting was a social occasion. I told her no doctor would tell an alcoholic who had been to rehab 10x that she could have alcohol at all. She got angry, told me the same speech I'd heard my whole childhood, I hate you, you ruined my life when you were born and I should have had an abortion when I found out I was pregnant with you. I then told her that she had destroyed me, that I hated her for not showing me any love and that it was the last time she would see or hear from me again and then my husband and I left. A few months later I got a phone call saying she was dead. Mixed alcohol with drugs. Then more calls came, her siblings, my cousins, all telling me that it was because of how awful I was to her that had started her drinking again. I haven't had contact with them since, more than 30s years since her death. I still have mental health issues, depression, anxiety and CPTSD.

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

People care more about a reputation

[@l.a.3479]

​@@annatribe4244I'm so sorry.

[@kimberlyjeanne9456]

I love Tyler Labine!

[@chrisxavier3147]

Wow I JUST noticed! Canadian gem

[@honestguyintelligent3022]

I know this is just a show, but I legit think that some people are beyond therapy. Some people can't be saved. Also, a little off-topic, but it's weird how I've only heard one or two anecdotes of therapy actually working on someone my entire life.

[@fawn4271]

People only can be saved if they truly want to. And most people's egos stop them from ever truly receiving the help they need. A ton of people lack self awareness sadly.

[@TheKrispyfort]

​@@fawn4271 a tonne of psychiatrists lack medical awareness. Did you know that urinary tract infections can cause delirium, which looks like psychotic delusions? Did you know that B12 deficiencies lead to feelings of fear and defensiveness? Shaken babies grow up to have handicapped coordination of thoughts, emotions, and vision? An ingested nematode getting into the brain can present as cognitive decline? None of which are treatable by the afflicted individual just getting over their ego. Medicine is barely catching up with scientific research realisations about how the brain is afflicted and affected, let alone psychiatrists taking somatic afflictions into consideration when investigating a patient. There's also the factor that interpersonal communication behaviours are learnt. People with handicapped interpersonal communication processes need professionals to assess the causes and develop a rehabilitation protocol so the afflicted individual can reintegrate into 'Society'. But, that takes effort and resources and willing practitioners.

[@Lorianne5190]

​@@fawn4271Yes, you can only be saved if you truly give your heart and mind (and money) to Therapy, attend services at least weekly, and follow the instructions of the wise and scientific Therapeutic texts. Everyone needs Therapy.

[@Munchkin.Of.Pern09]

And yet, hilariously, having too much (of the wrong kind of) self awareness can actually make your mental health worse! Because your brain starts looking for what you could have done differently to make things work out better for you even when it was entirely out of your control, to the point that it turns into self-deprecating intrusive thoughts.

[@diegomarin9045]

Man this guy is a hoot

[@moonlitkitsune7638]

That was an interesting code...

[@allshookup1640]

Lentil would be odd enough to stand out and place on 9th and 11th. 911. Emergency. Still casual so no one would suspect anything, but that they’d know something is up

[@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr]

@@allshookup1640if you live in NYC (like the kid likely does) you’d know right away that he’s BSing. That’s just not how they name streets/intersections over here. If it’s two numbers they’re always a large distance apart. And usually it’s a name and a number instead. Like 58th and broadway for example

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

@@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr Most cities, not just NYC, at least the ones I've been to, wouldn't name their streets like that. BUT, this guy was very distracted and didn't pick up on something so obvious and not so subtle, which is pretty realistic. You don't really notice details like that in a tense situation. If the doctor were smart, he'd work on that code to make it more subtle and harder to catch by someone who might be slightly less distracted. Even if it's unlikely for someone else to catch that detail not making sense in a tense situation, it's also easy enough to modify the code and reduce that chance even more.

[@chrisxavier3147]

That place on 9th and 11th, clever

[@beasaroseco5840]

Lentil 911😏

[@kyereCat]

That code needs to be official.

[@ursaltydog]

It means.... you're a survivor... and there's nothing wrong with being a survivor....

[@PearlsandRoses]

The more I watch stuff like this….the more I understand hermits.

[@lifewithlee6298]

Did anyone else see the backstreet boy cat 🐱 food Ad that played before this ? 😅😅

[@safiremorningstar]

What it says about you as a human being is your normal you did what you needed to do to survive, what it says to you is a psychologist or psychiatrist is a doctor cannot save everyone there is always going to be those that you cannot save that you cannot help and because of that you have to know when your own life is on the line you cannot save first thing they teach you in life saving as a lifeguard is you cannot hope to save number two unless you first save number one and you are number one.

[@saradapagediocletian9707]

That kid was pure evil.

[@troncron2458]

Lets see Chance murdered his family for how they treated him, he violated a restraining order, broke into Iggy's house, destroyed his phone, and held him hostage so I think Chance will be in prison for the rest of life

[@joepauloliver1468]

Nah he had a heart

[@saradapagediocletian9707]

@@joepauloliver1468 sure, anatomically speaking.

[@joepauloliver1468]

@@saradapagediocletian9707 yeah I guess

[@ChristinaWhitter]

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[@HaveFaithandPray_15]

welp that was interesting 😂

[@just-tess]

well that kid is awfully dense, 9th and 11th? c'mon, oldest trick in the book

[@patrickhannon4217]

I said this on another video, I'd like to see Dr. House deal with this kid, House wouldn't give the kid an inch

[@safiremorningstar]

Not x psychiatrist it shouldn't say that there it should be titled his former psychotrist.

[@micaelamorrigan2544]

You betrayed him . Don't know if you were right or wrong. Maybe he could have gotten better.

[@ChelseaSmitherson]

it didn't matter at that point as hard as it is to say. Helping people doesn't mean you can continue letting them hurt people in the meantime. The guy set his family on fire, I mean no one would blame him for the abusive dad, but the siblings who were also just children? The guy was dangerous. Iggy wasn't able to help without extreme stress and danger to himself and his family. There was no solution but this one or Iggy's death most likely. And now that he's in jail he has a chance to get help in a controlled situation.