DIY How To Install Copper To Pex | Shower and Bath Plumbing

[@paulv8133]

Outstanding video! So about a year ago I hired a plumber for TWO DAYS to move some pressure copper 1/2 inch water lines in my basement in order to renovate a bath and laundry room. He did exactly this, converted everything from copper to pex. I watched and was amazed at how simple it appeared. Measure, cut, connect. There was a little drain pipe reconfigure also, which was simple. One plumber for two days = $2,300!!! After that learned how to install pex myself with a buddy. Never using a plumber at $100/hr again...not for installing pex! Super easy and lots of help out there. The cost of shark bite fittings are irrelevant compared to cost of licensed plumber. What this guy just did in this video would cost me several hundred dollars where I live if I used a plumber. Never again! Thank you again!!!

[@jimsmith3712]

You’ll be calling that plumber back when those Sharkbite fittings fail. They’re cheap and easy for a reason.

[@paulv8133]

@@jimsmith3712 they're industry standard my friend. Tried and proven time and time again. Not remotely worried about it. Plumbers are way way over paid! It's good work if you can get it. This shit is easy though, and there's lots of help out there. Fortunately for plumbing industry Americans are lazy and have no sense of delayd gratification. As for me, a Plumber in Wyoming with helper is $230 / hr! No way, I'll figure it out and do it myself!

[@benjaminwhite6247]

@@paulv8133 Sharkbites are NOT industry standard by any means. You’re not even allowed to use them unless they are in accessible locations due to high chance of failure. And we are not overpaid we go through years of training to provide every house and building in America with sanitary Plumbing. We save more lives than doctors bro. Plumbing is the main thing separating us from 3rd world countries. And btw the type of pex piping he is using is trash, so are those cinch rings and he used the pliers ass backwards to tighten those fittings. 😂 This guy is a hack

[@paulv8133]

@@benjaminwhite6247 there you go, everything you just said one can watch multiple KZbin videos. I'm just saying I'll never pay a f****** plumber again. It's not remotely hard and anyone can do it.

[@wurly164]

@@jimsmith3712 they have been out for a long time and really haven't heard anything bad, except for plumbers who are scared they be put out of business. It's not rocket science and as long as you do it right, there's no problem. The big problem is that plumbers pricing is beyond ridiculous and they got too greedy. I've heard where they replaced toilets and charged $2100.00 There is a place for plumbers but for basic plumbing a lot of its now DYI

[@xChubaludx]

I had an emergency in my house where I had to fix my pipes, and after watching this video, I did so easily and safely, and now have running water again. With the left over tools and supplies, I'm going to redo my shower. Thank you so much for the advice, this is a real dream come true for a young/DIY home owner.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Glad to be of help. Cheers!

[@peterthomson1468]

I found that your videos are consistently the best, the most simple and the most comprehensive of the DIY channels out there. You have done a great job!

[@davidlouisbauer]

Without fail....if I'm researching a topic for the project I have going on, you have made a video for it. By far the best quality videos I've come across and I learn the most from your channel. You've got this game nailed down like a boss. Nicely done, and thank you for doing all the heavy lifting on educating me on some more obscure topics - which somehow you've already created a video for. You're the man.

[@scootter2323]

Same thing for me and still relevant 4 years later!

[@randysparks64]

Great video, Jeff! Channels like yours have saved me thousands as a homeowner doing my own work. More importantly, it's very satisfying to learn new skills and put them to work. You are providing an important service here, and don't let the KZbin plumber trolls deter you. Thank you for putting out such quality content!!!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks Randy, Don't worry all the angry plumbers in the world only help the channel to grow. We love helping people with their projects. This world needs to get handy again, and we are just doing our part to help.

[@randysparks64]

Exactly!

[@krishreal2024]

I actually appreciate most comments by plumbers. I love the exchange of constructive critism, and the back and forth exchange of information.

[@jackovoltraids5937]

It is pretty hilarious... "I feel this way. It's right and the only best practice." "I have a dissenting opinion. You're wrong. This is the best practice. Also, your face is stupid!" Tom: "AHHHPEX=BEST!" Dick: "AHHHCOPPER=BEST!" Harry: "AHHHLEAD=BEST!" (Umm, Harry, well.. Nobody listens to Harry. Not since he lost his vocal cords. It was when he fell in that vat of mercury...) LMMFAO at these threads!

[@jimsmith3712]

You said it best Jeff, it doesn’t require a whole lot of skill! From someone who’s been plumbing for 20 years, I thank you for keeping guys like me busy as someone like me will be there within a year to cut all that mess out and do it the right way. I’ve seen some handyman quality work but even this isn’t on that level!

[@pierremichel6460]

Thank you Jeff for making this video. I reside on a small island off the west coast of British Columbia where Services are rare and Plumbers even more rare so when I saw tubing (PEX) I did not recognize, I thought I was sunk and would have to call a Plumber. Not only am I grateful to you for the money I saved, the DIY format of your video preserved the attitude I've had throughout my life that,"If some one else can do it, then so can I!" Yes indeed your video has managed to still keep my arse out of the fire ( I remain in the ol' frying pan). Once more, Thank you Sir!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Pierre, The independent life is an awesome one!

[@ericschrock8493]

First time doing any kind of renovation and your video helped tremendously. All of them have, actually so thank you for that. My shower is enclosed and ready for tile. While researching that I came across something about the tub spout distance from the valve. I did some measurements. An entire 29" PEX run to the tub spout. Reading further, I realized that it should be no longer than 18" (per my installation guide) and should not be PEX but copper. The issue being that the shorter PEX diameter can constrict flow and combined with the excessive run, the shower head will/may run simultaneously with the tub spout diverter down. Per this video, I used PEX instead of copper. Lesson learned: always read the instructions before an install regardless of a youtube video demonstration, I get that. I'll be opening up the wall (Schluter Kerbi Board) and replacing what I need to. It's extra work but proper function and peace of mind prevail. My point being this: I appreciate your videos and I've learned so much. However, DIY homeowners should always read installation manuals regardless of what is shown in a video. Improper installation will definitely cause unnecessary delay and frustration.

[@Bound4Earth]

Like you said the use case matters, even with copper. Some people only have 1/2 inch installed and they wonder why their water pressure is so terrible when more then one source is used.

[@SandiRose2008]

Every now and then I look back at the 5 and a half hour video from season 1 to read the comment exchange between us because it makes me feel good to look back at the fun we had. You guys had hit a low moment, but you bounced back! Tonight I was looking for a video about pex shower plumbing, so I came to the best channel on KZbin. I couldn't help but notice this video has almost 2 and a half million views. Two and a half million views. Congratulations, guys, on coming so far.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Hi Sandy, Great to hear from you again. Yes we never stop trying new things to see what sticks and what our viewers want. We are pretty sure we have the winning formula for now! Cheers!

[@gnatatrobina]

Thank you so much. I was just quoted $400 to install a Watts Recirculation system on my electric water tank. It has a PEX pipe and I had no idea how to make the connection until I watched your video. You are the Man and save me a bunch of $$$.

[@michaelsabo373]

I wasn't going to do the shower myself until I watched this. This Video saved me 1100 dollars. thank you very much.

[@pacman19ze]

Love your videos. Clear and concise. So many amateur video makers drone on and on. Your brevity and concisenes is much appreciated.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thank you for your comment. It is our goal with this channel to set a new standard for home reno videos. We are striving to produce the best quality, with the most information we can in a short time.

[@jeremyphillips6712]

Home RenoVision DIY hey man great video. Just curious as to what is with those 2 copper pipes left uncapped. Apologies for such a novice question🤔

[@MutsFire]

Because he don't know what he is doing..

[@richardschuele]

We are in the middle of a top down remodel in our kitchen. Jeff, thank you so much for the videos. You are the reason I’m DIYing much of the project.

[@capcom6633]

Thanks for the video! Plumber wanted $850 to change out shower valve (that I broke trying to fix leaky shower head). After seeing your video, a buddy and I changed over to PEX with new shower fittings($85) for a total of $190. PEX crimper tool ($45)was part of that cost. Super easy to do

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

That is why we do what we do. Cheers!

[@samuelcoronado2229]

That plumber was trying to take you for a ride. I just had a 2600 ft house re-piped for $750.

[@JayZoop]

Great video. I like that you don't beat around the bush. Your time is valuable and so is ours.

[@jonathansimm194]

as someone doing renos, you are pretty much on the mark no need to split hairs here. good job!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

thanks for watching.

[@favourebube2793]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY pls i want to learn from you one on one

[@MAGAMAN]

Except that he didn't follow the basic instructions from the manufacturer and basically gave everyone bad information.

[@porknbeans7420]

This is the exact project I have to do!. Over the summer I added a Sharkbite "T" connector to a hot-water line & ran pex to a frost-free Silcock (even added an on/off lever in the pex line) & now I have an outside hot-water faucet. It works great. This video has emboldened me to take-on the tub project!

[@irfanfarid]

You should of 3/4” pex to the tub spout because, depending on the water pressure in the house, the shower head will drip/run every time you are using the tub spout do to restriction of flow by the 1/2” PEX adapters.

[@jorrick66]

I’ve heard this several times. Idk if there’s much weight to it, but I’m getting ready to remodel my bathroom and I bought 3/4” pex to go from the valve to the drop elbow, and 1/2” threaded nipple for the spout itself

[@johngunn879]

It says right on the valve not to do what he did. Was totally stupid. Otherwise the valve would have had the same nipples for that. He should have had a disclaimer he wasn't a pro, and not following manufactured instructions

[@AngelSanchez-of3sy]

What else can a diy use ? Don’t want to do soldering. Was about to install and tub spout line shows no pex or cpcv

[@luislujan8715]

You and your teaching style is one of the reasons why I beame a diyer

[@hdrk59]

Just used a shark bite today and loved it ...thanks for the advice and video.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

My Pleasure, Always aim to please royalty!

[@NIRAM_J]

Had it leaked? 😂 asking for a Friend.

[@PHam000]

I'm gutting my bathroom this weekend and this video will help me a lot. Thank you for taking the time out to help people out. Ignore the incompetents.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Will do, good luck. Cheers

[@gregguiltner8764]

The directions with a MultiChoice universal Delta Valve say you must use copper or galvanized pipe to the tube spout to avoid having water coming out the shower head even when the tub diverter is not activated: 4. Between the valve down to the tub spout, make sure you are only using 1/2" copper pipe or 1/2" galvanized pipe. PVC or PEX piping has a smaller inside diameter which pressurizes the water up when it builds up. You can use PVC or PEX piping anywhere else in the install but between the valve down to the tub spout, you should only use 1/2" copper or 1/2" galvanized piping. Have you ever seen this issue? Thanks!

[@imakarpenter]

Greg Guiltner true. I had an issue with this a few years back. If it’s strictly shower with no spout. Pex all the way.

[@markhiscock5530]

This is 100% true, some tub faucets are more prone to this than others. There is a reason why his mixer valve assembly came pre plumbed for PEX supply and NOT to have PEX to the shower head and filler spout

[@jacobanthony3260]

True weird thing is I have ran pex to tub spout in a pinch and tested before the wall was closed to make sure water didn't come out of shower head and it didn't. I have also seen this happen aswell. I'm not sure if it happens with just the cheap valves or if shower head height playes a roll in this to along with the restricted flow. I usually put my shower head in around 80inch or higher so that might help the water not make it all the way up not sure.

[@toddmason595]

2.8 MILLION views! OMG, I love this guy!!! Thank you for the information and the sunny disposition!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Todd!

[@oq17]

Thank you !!!! You are the best . I feel confident now I can redo my bathroom 😊

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers!

[@NTF11]

My grandfather built houses and was just an all around handyman. Anything you wanted he could do. My dad was handy also when he wanted to be lol. But both died before I bought a house and required any of the knowledge I picked up throughout the years. I didn't pay enough attention to what they had to offer. I'll be honest Jeff I've learned more from your KZbin videos than anyone in my life. Enough if they were alive they'd be proud of projects I've completed. They'd prob point out some mistakes lol but don't all father figures. Thanks Jeff for all you do. (As I'm sitting here between putting up concrete board in my shower .it has a vaulted ceiling on one side 😑)

[@samtheman3071]

Been doing Home improvement for 27 yrs...Things to do different: when using a shark bite, blunt out any copper pipe burs with a knife or blunting tool. Not doing so may damage the rubber "O" ring inside the shark bite upon insertion, and cause a leak. NEVER sand a copper pipe when using shark bites (SB) because the rubber "O" rings inside the SB fitting needs a smooth surface to ensure a proper seal. Scouring the pipe ensures micro water pathways, which will corode the surface of the pipe and cause a major leak later...that being said, NEVER use shark bites behind walls or hidden areas. Only use in accessable areas. Although shark bite is an awesome product when installed properly, it may also fail. That being said, I would have used a brass "copper to pex" fitting, and soldered it to the copper pipe. Soldering is a tried and true method of plumbing...when done correctly.

[@ericvaillancourt5969]

I agree, I've seen so many shark bite installation that leaked. When copper pipes are in perfect conditions (straight,no curves, easily accessible), it may fit well, but when the SB connector is not aligned, the little drop comes out and your losing hours reparing this. I would never sleep well usign those SB connectors then close the wall, put ceramic tiles and hope it never fail.

[@ceeIoc]

@@ericvaillancourt5969 so you’re saying all of these installations where they use shark bites for a shower will fail?

[@btexpress53]

Hey Jeff, have watched this video several times. It's has saved me twice. Used Shark bites to connect my furnace humidifier replaced faulty saddle valve - it's open in the mechanical so I can monitor. Also replaced leaky shut off valve under kitchen sink. So far so good!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Love my Sharkbite brian. They are so easy to use and saves a lot of contortionist work in hard to reach places.

[@garywilliams352]

Just a little advice, don't put pipe dope in the female fitting. When you tighten the male end it will push all the paste into the pep end causing a possible blockage in spout, shower head etc. put it on the male end 2 threads back and your set.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

kind of splitting hairs here but still decent advice.

[@willdov6321]

It took me a few minutes of watching this but aint his dumb @ss using the channel locks backwards lmao

[@frankucles9687]

Gary Williams How Hi yes to be the shower mixer how Hi has to be the Vanity valve

[@MAGAMAN]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Not splitting hairs, telling people the correct way to do it, unlike you.

[@btexpress53]

Earlier I was asking about changing over from copper to Pex. Bam! You already have a video. Getting closer to doing bathroom in the basement.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

LOL Brian, It is if, as we are one in the universe.

[@dogscratchedoor]

I'm watching this trying to learn and really appreciate how you went in detail. I guess all the people who do plumbing for a living gave up and navigated to your video to gripe. That's kind of sad. Anyway was wondering about the need for a shut off valve somewhere in the valve and cartridge system in case you have a water leak otherwise you d have to be running to the curb.

[@hmsantos1985]

Awesome vid, im a plumber and one trick i learned was, when yu have rings that slide whichever way lol, have a small pair of channel locks/pliers and give a lil squeeze where yu want the ring and it wont go anywhere!! Other than that, clean work Jeff

[@plumberman4u]

When wrapping PTFE tape (2min+) hold the reel the other way round then as you wrap you can control the tension AND the way/speed the reel unrolls.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

thanks

[@adomujanovic]

Yes and the tongs too

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

cool

[@luisroberto5540]

Burn Rooster i just see this video and he's doing in the good way direction putting the Teflon tape ok?

[@pinglau5547]

Plumberman Jones plllmk

[@Retrocowboy100]

Using pipe dope on top of the teflon tape is actually the best way to go. If you read the directions on the modern day threaded "brass" pex crimp fittings, it says to do that on the threads. It says that since the newer fittings are now being made "LEAD FREE" that they highly recommend doing it that way!! Just thought I would share that. I imagine the brass valve bodies are also "LEAD FREE", so the same principle would apply. I would like to see 3/4" pex or 1/2" galv pipe going down to the tub spout. Keep up the good work, great video!!

[@RezMusic2oh4]

This helped me during my plumbing class😂

[@hmround9178]

Like me 😅

[@mj72205]

Good music. Great video. Thanks again for walking me through my shower remodel.

[@MrGlobaldave1]

My understanding from Pro Plumbers here in Arizona is you CANNOT install Shark Bite (or Gorilla)fittings in "closed" or buried walls. They DO eventually need replacing. Ok if you have access to these.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

That is true Dave for most jurisdictions. We have an access panel next to the toilet in this case.

[@MrDarren5012]

Dave Holden correct

[@travelersworldcafellc7036]

Actutal Quality Instruction! Kudos! Compared to all the crap on the Tube this is actually very GOOD!

[@FastEddieQ]

Good job, just a comment... turn your teflon tape the opposite way, it rolls much easier, try it.✌️

[@magrethkambonde255]

I'm glade to come across your vidoe . I'm a plumber still learning but I'm glad I can use this pipe instead of copper pipe

[@pauls4122]

The spout for the tub has to be 1/2" copper or 3/4" as pex you are going to less than 1/2 and almost a 1/4". The restriction can cause the shower to come on without closing the spout. That is code.

[@joshuacastillo8238]

Yep. I had that problem when I used 1/2 from valve to tub so I switched to 3/4 and problem went away

[@bucwildwr8]

Hey this happened to me. So off the valve you converted to 3/4" but what did you do for the nipple for the tub spout? Convert back down to 1/2" or find a 3/4" tub spout and nipple?

[@paulspurlock599]

Just so I understand, are you saying the water supply lines can be 1/2 inch, but the shower head and tub faucet connections need to be 3/4 inch?

[@jeremyfritz346]

Thanks!

[@SuperLORENA88]

All of a sudden we have professional plumbers talking shit. 😂😂😂 the guy made a helpful video . 👍👍

[@randolphpatterson5061]

I had to replace a T-fitting under my house, and I used PEX for the job. I just used adapters to connect it to the old PVC pipe, but that was for the sake of a quick repair. Before going under my house, I assembled the fitting to three short sections of PEX tubing with a PVC adapter at each end. I used the same 10-dollar tubing cutter to remove the old fitting. I was lucky enough to borrow the expensive crimp tool, and so I only spent about $22 on the whole repair, including some of the tools. I want to run PEX through the entire house, and be done with having any plumbing problems. It's fantastic to work with and it's probably longer-lasting & more frost-resistant than any other kind of plumbing. It's a bit like playing with Tinkertoys or an Erector Set. Fun, not tedious.

[@mikejylla]

I bet 1 million dollars that the people hating on this video are licensed plumbers.... LMAO!!!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

definitely, Let me write you a check>

[@augustreil]

And they say shit like...Oh, he's holding the pliers wrong, tape and paste ? Shut the hell up, he did an awesome job that will last for decades.

[@frugallandlord2676]

I'm not a plumber but I know all this work he's doing is a waste of time, LMAO. How do you like them apples?

[@frugallandlord2676]

What kind of fucking crack are you smoking??????????

[@gazoo-pl4nx]

really mike? I tried this and it did not work so well, you have to use copper on the downspout and shower head because of the restriction on the pex elbow on the downspout water always came out the shower head

[@GORT70]

I had 90k questions answered in the time of this video. Out freaking standing.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Wow and I thought i only made 80,000 points. Cheers!

[@TheLostCat2000]

You people whine too much. The entire comments section is full of "You're doing it wrong", "You suck", "That's not how you use X or Y". Well guess what kids, that's YOUR vocation. You are a professional in your field. This video is aimed at homeowners, and must of us homeowners don't have a license, or bond, or devoted our time to the field mentioned. We also don't have 300 bucks to blow for a small repair. I've heard these fittings might fail in 10 years. Big fucking deal. That's 10 years of satisfaction and 250 dollars cheaper.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Jon gets it. Hallelujah

[@TheLostCat2000]

You're welcome, and sorry these people were so vile to you. Your video taught that we can make repairs quickly and easily without hiring a professional, and in the process we will probably go a decade or longer before needing to redo. Great video.

[@papafamilias92010]

100% agreed. Thank you for this awesome resource.

[@hj8607]

wrong explicative : don't give a shit

[@RustyCas999]

Wait.... an in-wall fitting fails in 10 years, ruins your drywall and your carpet or hardwood floor, rots our subfloor.... and you're OK with that?

[@caldoyle1572]

A note about using pex to plumb in a tub/shower faucet. This comes from experience. I am a contractor that specialized in bathroom renovation for many years. Read ALL the installation instructions on the box . Some valves are very sensitive to back pressure. Using PEX can create back pressure. It has to do with the interior diameter of PEX as opposed to the inside diameter of copper. As a result, when running the tub fill the pressure will push water up into the shower head and cause it to drip a stream of water. Some valve instructions tell you to use only copper on the rough in for the spout and shower head. Not all will do this, but some. It may not seem like a big deal, but early on I learned this because of customer concerns.

[@FoeyJawcett]

Good job! A link to parts would be nice too!

[@cynthiahowery2900]

This was a very helpful video...You explained everything to detail...now I believe in myself in doing this in my home..Thank you and God bless you....

[@chasehawes7770]

You really shouldn't use 1/2" pex from the diverter to the tub spout. Depending on how high your water pressure is, it will back up to the shower head when you're running the spout, especially with crimp fittings, as the inside diameter is only about 3/8. Most use copper for that piece, but if you're using pex it's better to use 3/4" pex for that piece with a 1/2" fip x 3/4" pex fitting at the diverter and a 1/2" fip x 3/4" drop ear at the spout. Some would argue that this is also the case with the pipe running up to the shower head, but I've never had an issue using 1/2" for that, as long as the spout piece is 3/4" or copper.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

That is a good solution for those people trying to avoid copper. Thanks Chase.

[@daijoubu4529]

3/4 pex or threaded brass fittings/pipes for the spout would be better

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

good solution.

[@BenDover-ty6my]

That is why the Mfg supplies the valve with pex supply adaptors and ips tub/shower connections

[@mr.eastcoastgrow6132]

Don't listen to ppl saying the push to connect fittings don't last. They do. It's just guys that plumb to code want to do it the way they learned. Old habits die hard.

[@rodneythornhill9526]

I have never had any luck using pex for my tub spout if you have good water pressure then the small diameter of the pex can restrict flow to the spout and cause the shower head to spray even when diverter is not engaged

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks rodney, there have been a few suggestions on this forum that should address this. One of them may work for you.

[@theoutlanders785]

Rodney Thornhill yes for tub spouts should always use copper so no restrictions occur!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

riobel pro now offers a shower / tub valve with a 3/4 line to the tub.

[@stevenweede7184]

Depends on if you use pex A or B. With the flaring of the tubing versus placing the fitting inside & compressing you retain a larger lumen for water to pass through. Especially helpful if there are a lot of 90° turns in your pipe.

[@jesussepulveda9426]

Mike Shewchuk. I agree

[@stephaniepyle7677]

Well... Merry Christmas to me!!!!! I’ve been working w/ a torch, and NOW- holly cow! I’m so excited to get the new tools and get moving on bathroom #2 renovation. Thank ya for the quick and simple videos. 😍

[@j7juan463]

I've been working on my new home for a couple of months, never used torch before, and now that I just read your comment, I feel embarrassed 😂😂 if a woman can use a torch, then it's time for me to learn how to use a torch 😊

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers you can do it!

[@No1carpetcleaningmelbourneAus]

Thanks For Uplading. Great job dude!

[@rcp916]

I’m in the trades and see new residential construction has switched over to using PEX. I made the initial investment a few years back when I remodeled my laundry room and I loved the system. It’s fast and fail safe. Now I’m working on my master bath remodel and once again I love having this stuff in my tool collection! Great video You still need to know how to solder as some valve bodies aren’t PEX ready and you’ll need to sweat in adapters but 3 or 4 adapters and bada bing! You’re in business.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Very true. we are making new videos as we speak about different situations a renovator can find themselves in.

[@0607ray]

Wow this answered all my questions thank you

[@TMcGee123]

Great video. Nice touch with the blues music in the background.

[@garygundersen5579]

Jeff, you used the pliers backwards. You also did not mention the Sharkbite orange measuring tool. It tells you how far to push the Sha rkbite. The lay person will not know this.

[@dixiechippers]

I thought I was the only one that noticed this. Still works though😁

[@jonmh9668]

Thanks for this. I keep seeing alot of stuff about plumber for 20 years blah blah, well we've hired plenty of those to do jobs that cost easily into the thousands and end up having to call them back to fix things or see spotty work (Some who've been plumbers for 40+ years). So if there is no lasting harm, even if the PEX lasts less this is a great video for those not wanting to solder.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

I agree jon, just make sure you have access to the fittings in case you need to replace them from the back side of the wall. Cheers!

[@jonmh9668]

Home RenoVision DIY is there a reason to not use the sharkbite push connector elbow joints and ear fittings in the place of the joints you're using? Aside from cost?

[@nearfaded]

solder the 1/2 copper to pex female transitions, and 1/2 copper male transitions for the mixer, it makes a much more reliable system, cheaper on parts, and more labor, but overall better

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Very true however the purpose of this video was to instruct people how to do it without knowledge of soldering.

[@AF335iE92]

Watching you put on pex, now im at home depot with cart full of part to renov my bathroom... i hope my over confidence dont end up disastrous

[@trailerpark187]

not using the channel locks the right way. anyone else notice?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Yes, I did. It all came down to nerves during my first shoot.

[@mustangflyer6878]

+Ottawa Design and Build Renovations Well I appreciate your videos, they are very informative, thank you. I know as much about plumbing as these "shadetree critics" know about etiquette. My 56 year old slab house thought it was a watercraft when the water line became porous, the leak was under the slab and not inside. Fortunately, there are only two season's where I'm at, the 1st one is hot and the 2nd one is hell so insulating was a minor issue, lol. I wanted to say thank you for the information, you saved me approximately $4,800. Now I can get a real boat!!!!! Lol.

[@DD-di1xc]

I was just gonna comment that as soon as i saw it. lmfao

[@johninmilford7719]

No, that's just a left handed channel-lock....ROFLMAO. Teflon and dope should NOT be used together, want a dozen reasons why? Uncoated "drywall" screws at 7:22 not code. "No need to hire a licenced plumber..." at 9:46 was ROFL material! Not a bad video overall though!

[@gorilladelgadodd]

+John In Milford teflon and pipe dope all day

[@Dozerlover7]

Best video out there for replacing this😊 Thank you! You’re awesome!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers Sheila!

[@LuisAguilar-vh7eq]

Sooo no one is going to mention. How he was holding the Chanel locks backwards? 🤣🤣🤣

[@morisventura674]

Saw that if you're learning, don't grab them like that.

[@zigzigler8332]

1st Video I have watched where music was used ( GOOD MUSIC ) in the back ground and did not interfere with the tutorial, GREAT VID THANK YOU !!!!!!!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Our pleasure ZIG, BTW I trained in sales with a Zig Ziglar is that you by any chance?

[@zigzigler8332]

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY lol no

[@alwagers574]

Can tell he doesn’t do this everyday from how he holds those channies 🤣😎

[@kodkid]

and puts the teflon on the threads and uses Shark bites.

[@alwagers574]

Randy Savage obviously not lol there’s a way to hold them and a way not too. Clearly your another diyer I’ll make money from in the future lol

[@valarmorghulis4382]

wow working with pex seems so easy ... as much as i love working with copper , this is a great alternative

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

costs a lot less as well. Hard to set fire to your house when you don't need a torch.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Amen

[@stevetibbs2362]

ValarMorghulis Pex won't freeze and burst usually but it will freeze and push the fittings out.....personal experience speaking....but pex is the best to work with.

[@obierol]

Great video as always Jeff! The pex pipe from the shower faucet down to the tub spout: will this not restrict the flow of water and cause water to back up and drip from the shower head before activating the diverter pin knob? We just had a reputable plumber here in Ottawa do all the rough-in and they installed pex all throughout. The Moen bathroom fixtures we purchased specifically show in the manual using copper pipes from the shower faucet down to the tub spout. We'd appreciate any feedback you and your team may have. Thank you.

[@TheUglyDad]

That is exactly what mine did with this install method. Going to have to remove and use copper for tub spout, but wondering if maybe going up a size in PEX for down flow to spout.

[@8419james]

I'll answer for Jeff: "Not a problem in my world, cheers!"

[@MrCdrant]

@@8419james Not true, this can and will have negative effects for many valves, resulting in water being inadvertently diverted to the shower head.

[@8419james]

@@MrCdrant Lol, agreed. Was just making a joke reply since Jeff usually avoids these types of questions.

[@yuzurusama]

Hi Jeff! I love every of your video, I can learn good tricks and manual dexterity from them. I am a plumber, and I love watching the American's fittings and systems, especially the PEX. In Hungary, working and connecting PEX is different than in the US, I saw similarity when I worked with Rehau. I prefer the Viega PEX fittings where I just put the pipe into the fitting's sleeve and crimp it. Also we commonly connect copper pipe with press or soldering, only a few know about the Tectite fitting what is similar to the Sharkbite, but it can connect only copper pipes. I saw some butthurt over yout teflon taping skills, but as it seals, it seals. We use hemp seal, and I prefer it much than teflon. And a trick I use: I scratch the male thread with an iron saw-blade, and the sealant will better snap at.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Cheers to Hungary, I am just a novice plumber and glad to learn from the pros.

[@sal.pizzurro]

Piping the tub spout with 1/2" pex will always cause your shower head to drip. Use 3/4 pex or 1/2" copper

[@yevgenikovelman3306]

why will the shower head drip?

[@sal.pizzurro]

@@yevgenikovelman3306 reduced pressure causes the water to shoot up to the shower head. This guy basically was learning as he went. Now he has a million subscribers. I guess he's not as stupid as I thought

[@johnbannister5013]

@@sal.pizzurro is it just for crimped pex? What if I used shark bite fittings on every connection? Would it still leak?

[@sal.pizzurro]

@@johnbannister5013 the only connection that causes the problem is between the valve and the down spout or diverter. I wouldn't recommend sharkbites because they are not rigid but the flow would be fine and not cause the dripping so technically you can use sharkbites for it. If you insisted on using sharkbites I would recommend using a dog ear elbow and screw that to a 2x4. It would still not be ideal but it would work. Just use silicone where the pipe goes through the wall and let it cure and it will be solid..actually use a dog ear elbow (sharkbite) and then screw a 1/2" x 8"?? nipple but then you need the type of diverter that screws onto the nipple instead of the kind that slides into the copper pipe. It might be easier for you to use all threaded pipe/nipples for the diverter. No matter how you slice it you have to use your noggin ;)

[@konradp8832]

@@sal.pizzurro I had the exact same problem you described - the shower head would drip when the diverter spout was on full. The contractor used 1/2" pex both on the down spout and the piece that goes out into the spout. What solved the problem was putting a 1/2" copper fitting at the end, straight to 3/4 thread of the diverter spout. The diameter reduction from the SB fitting was huge and caused too much back pressure.

[@Supra_Na96]

I’m SOOOO glad to hear someone else refer to it as “Sand Cloth” I mean technically that’s what the damn package calls it!

[@idratherfly2000]

@ 6:38 Cameraman: Cool, thats a wrap! lets go get lun.....woooops

[@catsmeow5566]

My pex cinch tool has a blue light for when it is fully closed. As for the elbows, I found a cheaper way to get the 90° bends is to get some gray 3/4" pvc conduit. You may need to lubricate it a little but the pex slides in & bends nicely. No restricted flow from brass fittings-- fewer fittings that could possibly fail. There are also some black plastic crimp fittings that have little pieces sticking out to show you where the rings should go. We had to use the plastic ones on a repair after a bad winter storm (coldest it got here in over 100yrs) that ruptured all the pipes & the brass fittings were sold out.

[@janetstone236]

Thanks so much, I will need to do this in my 1965 home - Project # 22 ha ha. But, I am curious why you did not use ''shark bite elbows with the pex'?

[@ehabhabeeb7819]

Man you are the best I learned a lot from your video I become a better handyman because you everytime I have something and I don’t know how to do it I seach for and you have the answer Thank you a lot

[@962pepo]

The only thing I will change from this job is not using the sharks fitting inside the walls if is my job I will do it under the house or in the attic area, good job..

[@alexharper9786]

962pepo same

[@Scotty_in_Ohio]

same here.

[@ortilag]

I kind of had that feeling, but what would you used instead? I been looking for a soldering alternative.

[@jensen9341]

Worked like a champ, Thanks for the excellent video!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Glad it helped

[@tedsiebers692]

good video. would never suggest running pex from valve to tub spout. will cause water to come out of shower head when filling tub. both delta and moen say pex to spout not suggested. pex to shower head ok

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Good to know, thanks Ted.

[@sethgaddie5980]

100% agree

[@steverager5602]

I've been a plumber for 24 yrs and you are absolutely correct !

[@ChrisGilliamOffGrid]

@@steverager5602 You can buy a 1/2 copper swt male x 3/4 PEX fitting and run 3/4 PEX down to a 3/4 PEX x 1/2 FPT drop earred 90 if you really want to use PEX down to the spout. It works well.

[@MrGFY73]

how?

[@rachelgarraway5511]

Jeff, you're the best! you have a video for every home reno question i have ever had! thanks for your detailed explanations!

[@b-rare]

yeah my plumber wants 3600$ im just going to do this myself my goodness so easy

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Wow That is a lot of money to change a shower fixture. Good for you.

[@frugallandlord2676]

Have fun with your mediocre plumbing project, stupid.

[@ivyliterocway819]

I subscribed because you are a great teacher.

[@logicalamerican]

How many guys does it take to Install Copper To Pex Shower and Bath Plumbing? 875 1 to do it, and 874 to monday morning quarterback the damn thing

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

LOL, that is one of my favorite comments to date. You feel free to chime in any time!

[@stormbytes]

Love your teaching style!

[@jstu45]

flip your tape roll around and it will unroll easier

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks dude. I know better. But working round the clock filming that weekend caused me to do some rookie mistake stuff.lol

[@georgetraylor7835]

and the channel locks.

[@jstu45]

@Randy Savage so do don't give your advice prick...he already acknowledged my advice.

[@willofdodge1]

That mom's reaction was beautiful

[@alexanderostrouchov5515]

Overkill with the Teflon tape (not to mention the plumbers paste). I worked in industrial instrumentation for 7 years and was taught to use and always used only about one and a half turn around the threaded end of the pipe with the tape. Never had a leaking connection. The tape is there only to fill the extremely tiny spaces between the meshing threads. Too much tape will prevent the two parts from engaging sufficiently due to the many layers of it enlarging the diameter or might come off completely during engagement due to the extreme layer thickness. Good job and good intentions, but remember more is not always better.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks, I agree to disagree. In my experience in residential renovations my plumbers have found that due to the shody manufacturing that we are dealing with in our pipe threading. it is necessary to ensure that we cover all our bases.

[@MrDmadness]

teflon and pipe dope are both considered LUBRICANTS... they are there to assist the threads engagement. as with black iron pipe, the thing that seals the joint is the 30 degree taper of the threads.

[@VERSONECOMPLEKS]

alexander ostrouchov seriously doubt "never"

[@avenged7xx777]

alexander ostrouchov 4 full wraps with the Teflon is what I’ve always been taught

[@tman3036]

Great video. 1/2" pex fittings are only about 3/8 ID. I would suggest using 3/4 pex on a shower which ends up being about the same volume as 1/2" copper...2 cents.

[@user-ny4ig9qh2e]

I see several things wrong. This guy isn't a professional plumber. He was supposed to put the plastic inserts from the shark bite inside of the pex before he slipped the pex into the fitting. And channel locks upside down, etc. When I put them together I put on Teflon tape on first then Teflon paste on the threads, then thread a pex fitting on the Hot Cold side. I never use a Shark bite fitting for a conection. I sweat on a pex brass fitting on copper or just run pex up to the shower valve fittings. I always run copper pipe up to a drop ear elbo for shower head and copper down to the tub spout. I have been a C36 plumbing Contractor for many years and have been doing plumbing for the past 39 years. I wish these people on here would have experience and know exactly what they are doing instead of showing people the wrong way to set up a tub shower valve.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Once again we have a plumber watching how to videos. It always amazes me that plumbers have time to critique other people but never have the time to produce their own videos so we can critique them. To this I say show us your stuff or keep your opinions to yourself. This video was designed to help homeowners learn the basics so they could feel comfortable to do the job without calling in a shark plumber. Obviously plumbers are threatened by this information.

[@PhuckHue2]

you guys charge too much. we gotta do it ourselves. at least its better than duct tape and krazy glue

[@user-ny4ig9qh2e]

Ottawa Design and Build Renovations If you were able to understand what I said earlier you would know why us plumbers do not tell people how to do a plumbing job. And No I will still not tell you how. Many years of experience and hard work go into this trade unlike your minimum wage job.

[@user-ny4ig9qh2e]

PhuckHue2 The reason we charge what we do is because we went to school to learn this and we have to pay for a license every 2 years and a bond also. The bond can run as long as 1 to 6 years. Depends how long you buy it out for. None of this is cheap and the tools we have to buy are not cheap either like the Insurance and the trucks etc. That is why because it cost us a lot to stay in business if you want a quality job.

[@PhuckHue2]

I've been doing my own repairs for years without any problems. I would never attempt to install new plumbing unless it was something easy. thats just crazy

[@nicholasvlamis3517]

Jeff thanks for all your videos. They've helped me very much. Just an FYI, the 1/2 inch copper of pex is 1/2 inch inner diameter not outer diameter. Great videos!

[@VideoGrabBag]

Good job. I'm sure it will last many decades so quit the hating. The only thing he does wrong is say, "about" and "out" wrong. Instead he says "aboat" and "oat" and the music makes me want to say "groovy".

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Funny, I didn't know I had an accent!!

[@dngles5733]

You always have the solution to my problem.

[@marnihouston6941]

that was inspiring.....you showed and explained your plumbing project very well.....thanks

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks Marni!

[@ibegyoupardon]

hey man those crimp O rings do they prone to vibration from the water pressure over time . will it get loose in in the future ?

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

No , however they are a little tricky duringinstallation. If you don't get a full crimp they will leak right away. Once your done do a pressure test and double check.

[@a.b5140]

Thanks for all your videos they have helped me tremendously.

[@johnj.bennette1914]

Sharkbite fittings should not be installed inside a wall. I have been in the plumbing business for over 50 years I do sometimes use them for a temporary repair.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Thanks John. we have a access panel next to the tub to ensure that we are good long term. Perhaps one day sharkbite will get the respect and code will allow permanent installations. I have also seen in my years a lot of crap soldering and compression fittings. Using traditional methods with bed skills can be just as harmful.

[@daijoubu4529]

Whats wrong with compression fittings? I'm using it to connect my pex to copper

[@johnj.bennette1914]

You have an access panel on a exposed wall where the toilet is? Give me a break mickey mouse installation.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

The client wanted to be able to monitor the sharkbite fittings. Once they are satisfied they will close it and paint themselves. It's their house. There is nothing mickey mouse about my work.

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

there are many types of compression fittings not just sharkbite. They generally work reasonably well.

[@RichIrving]

Thanks to you I got my shower in this weekend. Thanks!

[@HomeRenoVisionDIY]

Awesome job Rich, send us pics and we can showcase you on our Instagram channel. Cheers!

[@monicacarhuay2660]

you should add 50 more wraps of Teflon tape

[@demsoti]

Haha

[@imaramblins]

LMAO!

[@elmono3939]

Nice, clean job !

[@Kodiak727]

“Traditionally”