Why I Quit Being a Therapist -- Six Reasons by Daniel Mackler

[@scottomania4543]

I agree with him. I was prescribed these pills that kept me in this zombie state for over a year. Its possible that it has also destroyed my liver. Had to stop immediately. On a side note, why should children not be in therapy if they have trauma?

[@Jean-Berry]

He has talked about it before. Here's one video in which Daniel talks about children in therapy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqLZon-LiLOpb5o Also, here's another video that is related to this subject kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJekfGmifr-ZqcU

[@manictiger]

I know a guy who took them for a decade and he has NO medium-term memory. I'm not sure if it's genetic, or if it's the pills, but that guy has zero recall ability for anything that happened 3 months to 2 years ago. My dad and I have decent recall for that time-range, so I know he's severely deficient and it's not just "something people do". The only drugs I recommend are caffeine and melatonin. We're too stupid to fuck around with the brain, outside of basic chemicals, like the aforementioned two. It's chemical lobotomy. They don't want to cure you. They want you docile and stupid. Stupid, docile cattle don't cause problems for "the system". The system is this: go to work for a company you hate to do a job you hate for a house you'll never be able to afford and a cost-of-living that you can't keep up with and smile while you do it. Can't do that? Then you're "abnormal" and "need" medication!

[@shastaholly991]

Scottomania As someone who has been in therapy as a child, i honest to god think it saved my life. I would have spiraled even worse if I hadn’t started treatment. There are some things kids have been through that they can’t just simply work out on their own.

[@tim3854]

@@Khalfrank psychology is a mind-control weapon.. I still think there are honest shrinks out there that unintentionally gaslight their "clients" / victims

[@christopherjohnson-cu9nr]

Because "counselling" is just for overindulged narcissists who just want someone to talk at.

[@justinebourke9449]

The huge pity is that therapists like this man are so badly needed by people who are suffering.

[@mooncatandberyl5372]

true I agree, but also I am glad he quit, because it meant he has this you tube channel where he is giving realisation and enlightenment (especially around mental illness and the mental health system) and some kind of therapy to thousands of people.

[@pjj.5649]

It's true, but you are pushed beyond burnout, you go straight to smoldering ash. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt!!!

[@elisaschulman2356]

That is exactly what I was thinking. I’ll bet this man was the bomb therapist. They are far and few between.

[@tammyhavlik1015]

And here he is. I'm happy for him. And I agree with him completely about the false construct of the system and how it should be about caring community.

[@McFraneth]

Marxism will cure your depression. You'll become angry instead. You'll understand why your frustrated humiliated dad kicked the crap out of you.

[@LifeAtTheCrossroads]

As a retired psychologist, I understand and agree with all you've said here.

[@fifthwallradio5477]

When mental health became behavioral health, saw the writing on the wall and closed practice

[@effexon]

@@fifthwallradio5477 wdym with that? what was it before? that explains so called ADHD and other booms coz looking behaviour sure that has increased (people in bigger and bigger cities must sit still and quiet more and more of their day + no familiar people 90% of day around you makes everyone jittery)... yet Im disappointed this is like societal taboo nobody is supposed to say.

[@fabe8947]

know it's not simple but Assuming to have adhered to the unethical market charges a bit by maintaining, High Value Clients and to have used some of it to fund the ones for whom therapy might not had been affordable and also to have used some of that fund to take the we'll deserving breaks once in a while to follow his own interests and pursuit, would probably have made him to be more acceptable and collaborative for his colleagues thus also to get their support for the good therapist he was and also to not only have left the profession, but instead to have had looked up to him by his peers and maybe later in his life maintain a position of training the upcoming ones and helping them with the necessary experience and mindset to hopefully create the necessary changes of the status quo of the entire MENTAL INDUSTRY for the good is what I'm looking at. What do you think?

[@Bambotb]

Why would insurance companies want to spend more money on drugging and hospitalisation ?

[@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020]

@@effexonso true!!! I never thought about that!

[@Nettamorphosis]

Putting a few years into being a great therapist is better than putting 30+ years into being a mediocre therapist. Kudos to you.

[@danielgallegos1528]

This man walks into a bar and he ends up helping someone. He is the healer integrated. Any of us would be lucky to stand in the line at the grocery store next to this guy. Cheers!

[@lorileewhitbord8260]

Beautifully said.

[@rumination2399]

We can be like him if we want to.

[@sahpire75]

This man’s a saint. Extremely rare for medical professionals to be this honest. It’s disheartening, but at the same time, a relief that he speaks the truth. Makes you want to get your sht together fast.

[@redhotkido]

Check Arun Gulani. He is that too

[@charlotteriddle7303]

The tears you cried in those therapy sessions with and for the patient I feel probably made them feel validated. It made them see that you SAW their pain and that it was ok for them to see their pain and show it to others. Your tears were not shed in vain.

[@Erika-yi1fj]

Charlotte Riddle 👏👏

[@kjtamf]

Charlotte Riddle 👍🏻❤️🙏🏻

[@stevensullivan5282]

Amen

[@jaimecoutanche5977]

So true He is a human and humane. They need to listen more and stop prescribing drugs so much. As a survivor..my prescription; find Jehovah, be with people who love and value you, being useful for others, good food and walking or any exercise...all free (except the food). Love heaĺs, give it and you will receive it.

[@funkmonster]

nature2rule oh quiet down you little psychopath. There are human beings in the world that feel things. You’re not special because you feel nothing, you fool.

[@brandytorretta3701]

As a fellow therapist I can 100% relate to everything you said. This is deeply sacred work and deeply heavy. I had to up my zen lifestyle in order to manage the trauma I’m exposed to on an almost daily basis. I’m only a few years in now, in private practice so I have more control, but I can see how my work probably has a shelf life. And yes, our mental health care system is BROKEN and dysfunctional. We have a long way to go to make it better and what it should be....

[@yoelikikadidi-tq2nn]

How are you a therapist when you don't even know how to talk to people respectfully.

[@AJ-es5yd]

​@yoeli kikadidi what the f is wrong with YOU!

[@JBplumbing12]

@@yoelikikadidi-tq2nn What did she say that is disrespectful?

[@yoelikikadidi-tq2nn]

@@JBplumbing12 nothing she didn't say anything, that wasn't for her I was responding to a comment that was deleted. I guess, I'll also delete mine lol

[@JBplumbing12]

@@yoelikikadidi-tq2nn Oh yes, I think that often happens on youtube.

[@Roberto-Escobar]

I am a psychiatric nurse and love what this guy is saying. Agree with him 100%. Our system is sadly broken.

[@autumngrace8541]

IT WAS BUILT BROKEN....

[@Roberto-Escobar]

@@autumngrace8541 damn that hit….. you right……

[@autumngrace8541]

@@Roberto-Escobar The more compassion we can exhibit to others and help them find who they really are, and keep from getting zombie medication, the more we can wake up the oneness consciousness.

[@claireh.7605]

The system presents antisocial perverse individuals with their own issues to vulnerable people who assume that therapists can be trusted to be normal and give good advice. My therapist was a lying psycho manipulating people into being long term clients while playing mind games with them and then lying about it when confronted. Then I took an SSRI and it destroyed my brain and my life, I didn’t taper it, almost lost all my jobs and ruined my reputation. Started being abusive to my family and it lasted for fifteen years.

[@NoPlus500]

Because USA is $ driven it’s so sad and cruel

[@franciehartsog1347]

I quit too. For the same reasons. I actually became sick with MS. You will always be a therapist. Just not a licensed therapist. I have dedicated myself to serve others FREE!

[@dmackler58]

Thank you! Wishing you the best 😀

[@julijopeterson7096]

There ya go….

[@kelrickthechironhealer9961]

@@annmcerlean5017 For REAL.....

[@ЕкатеринаПавленко-ж3м]

👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙌🌼🌼🌼

[@willyamos9180]

I needed therapy a few years ago, but at over $200 per sessions, I leaned to heal myself. Thanks for this. I did the right thing.

[@zombiemachinery4868]

I'm going to do the same with my car.

[@goych]

@@zombiemachinery4868you’re going to heal your car? I don’t understand?!

[@ShadaeMastersAstrology]

@@zombiemachinery4868I tried therapy in my car too. Ended up screwing up my hand after blasting music, screaming and crying bammed my right hand on the steering wheel 3 good times. That was over a month ago and my hand hasn’t healed yet 😭 I’m trying over treatment options. Hopefully it heals 😢

[@kimkimi3315]

How did you heal yourself?

[@juvnal]

@@zombiemachinery4868 are u still alive

[@chrisg7795]

I LOVE that you said all this openly. I have the same kind of reasons - as a teacher. The “system” destroys every good social work. I have friends who are doctors with their whole heart and they say the same. Being humane and wanting the best for people is not wanted if it isn’t cheap. You restore my trust in humanity. I often feel completely left alone when I talk about these big problems openly. All your reasons apply to me as a teacher as well. If you go out of your way to really help a child/adolescent it consumes your own health, not only because you care but it’s not wanted that you do. You’re supposed to rush. And to “treat” 8 classes of 30 individuals each who have a right to be seen. It breaks you if you’ve got a heart. I visited kids at hospital because their parents wouldn’t do it, I fed them because their parents didn’t do it, I hugged little ones who cried, had narcissistic parents and felt lost - and I wasn’t supposed to do any of it. I even got blamed for “interfering”. But those kids came to me later as adults and told me that this was the one thing that kept them from hurting themselves.

[@colettespencer3357]

I understand. I do the same as a nurse of 19 years. ❤

[@chrisg7795]

@@colettespencer3357 Yes! I imagine ❤️

[@colettespencer3357]

@@chrisg7795 💖

[@kwa_nguyen]

oh man. thats so heartbreaking. thank you for the love that you showed to those kids.

[@LiseWrigley]

Big hug to you Chris. Thank you for making a big and positive difference in this world.

[@lomigreen]

Wounded Healer. Thank you, soul soldier for facing these dark things. You’ve most likely healed many.

[@ShadaeMastersAstrology]

Wounded healer is an asteroid placement in astrology named Chiron.

[@Jessica-jr5qf]

@@ShadaeMastersAstrologyIt would be interesting to see the placement of chiron in his chart

[@schoomzer]

This guy is AMAZING, a truly sensitive and caring soul.

[@joesmith9472]

its a very nice contribution to youtube. that for every 20 likes this video got a dislike is for me another reason to lose faith in humanity.

[@AgeofReason]

He doesn't seem to be pretentious, either. I can't sense a fraud behind his face from what I've listened to yet.

[@geoffcaflisch1352]

Burn out due to vicarious trauma and lack of support and supervision.

[@googleshitsyt5557]

He is! I was in a mental clinic in 2 periods!!! ... 1999?medicated 2000- refused medication 2006-forced medication ... I love so much for being you as an ex-therapist and SPEAK OUT

[@myarkventures674]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4fbh4aMnK2lsJI In Australia as they treat humans less than unwanted animals

[@lynncrf]

Timestamps: 0:00-8:33: The financial issues in terms of dealing with high overheads and controlling insurance companies; 11:53: Exhaustion from vicarious trauma; 17:00: The lack of support from colleagues, including supervisors; 23:54: The responsibility of being focused/present with clients; 28:25: He became interested in other things besides working with trauma.

[@-441-]

Your comment needs to be pinned! 📌📌

[@lynncrf]

@@-441- Thanks! Thankfully a lot of those issues don't happen here in Europe. We don't have to deal with insurance; supervisors simply do not act the way he describes; and very few of us work more than 25 hours a week. Vicarious trauma is however always a risk.

[@myarkventures674]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4fbh4aMnK2lsJI In Australia as they treat humans less than unwanted animals

[@CalmKit]

A lot of supervising social workers engage in therapy and don’t do their own personal therapy. This leads to projecting their frustrations on their underlings, like this young man, especially in the overwhelming mental health system in NYC.

[@chanson8508]

Thank you 🙌🏾 I was looking for this

[@itsnotatoober]

You quit because you're not a therapist, you're a good human being.

[@nobodysbaby5048]

☺️

[@zoraidita2022]

100 PERCENT

[@vivvpprof]

If you're a bad human being, does that mean you have chances in the therapy field? 😊 (asking for a friend)

[@Nick_Taylor.]

@@vivvpprofas a psychiatrist, yes.

[@sunkyasisa1834]

@@Nick_Taylor. very ignorant :/

[@taniamartin6978]

You should write a book about your former life as a therapist. Fascinating. It's the same in every field I suppose; the sensitive, dedicated professional is abused, exploited and rejected. Those patients deserve to have their stories known.

[@swavekbu4959]

"The ones who need a therapist are the ones who usually can't pay." Same with animals and vets. When I visit the vet, I look around me, and realize these are all the "lucky dogs." The dogs that really need a vet aren't here.

[@cvestick]

please, my friends, go vegan

[@justinebourke9449]

True but unfortunately vetinary medicine is largely like that for humans; damaging synthetic chemicals, totally overused and pushed by multibillion profiteering pharmaceutical companies who "educate" and basically bribe veterinary practitioners to use their drugs

[@saida817]

It’s so true

[@veronicalagor4771]

Same with humans and medical treatment. They avoid the help because they can't afford to go, leading to pricier emergency expenses later. It's very sad how many emergencies in hospitals could be prevented with proper, regular preventative interventions and lifestyle changes.

[@Unkn0wn1133]

@@cvestickvegans dont have pets now? Thats new to me

[@brookeleawood8519]

His #5 reason about having it be too much responsibility was so honest and raw. I had a therapist tell me I was "messed up in the head" when I was 19 and it haunted me for years. To have to carefully meditate and choose exactly what words you tell someone because they will replay it over and over and over in their mind is so spot on and a tremendous amount of responsibility. It's insane to think the amount of trust and status we give psychologist. They are just normal people so to hang on every word they say and treat it like a life prophecy is unhealthy. Great video!

[@Sigalhodbh]

You are amazing. To cry in therapy, is absolutely humane and empathic. It's amazing. It's a loss off a good person in therapy...

[@Lotus1111]

Thank you for your transparency Daniel. A few years ago at 55, I retired from my career in Psychiatry. Unfortunately, my style was to listen to the person in front of me and strive to hold a safe, attentive space for them to be heard, seen and thus help me to understand how I could best help them on their healing, wellness, wholeness journey. Well, once EMR, two computer screens, and a printer entered the room, my approach became unsustainable. I’m very grateful for the people who entrusted me with their well-being over the years, a privilege indeed. I pray for our current medical system and humanity.

[@mariekatherine5238]

That’s like going to a regular doctor. They don’t even look at you! I once asked if I’d come to the wrong office. Why? I said I was looking for the health clinic but appeared to have stumbled into a business office, everyone crunching numbers on screens. My remark was not appreciated. I haven’t been back. A 15 year old kid watching medical KZbin videos can learn to recognize an obvious heart murmur. My doc didn’t even check! He said I didn’t have one or I wouldn’t be sitting on the exam table at my age, 63! Anytime the government takes over an area in which they have no expertise, and falls outside their proper role in society, they destroy it, workers, clients, everyone. Medicine, education, scientific research, and now, the thought, opinion, and social relations police!

[@CourtneyDixonDesigns]

This isn't just therapy. This is the whole medical industry.

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

Totally

[@lovealwaysshalisha]

FACTS!!!!

[@screwmuckduck8905]

It’s made on a BUSINESS BUSINESS BUSINESS standpoint.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

God, what a useless bunch doctors are. Sorry. :) You ought to see them with chronic stomach problems. :/. I went back about 4x before i just told them, please don't even send me a bill on the co-pay. I wouldn't pay a car mechanic to not fix the same problem four times. They never did fix it. I wound up taking Vitamin D in winter. Eliminating allergens: milk, wheat, and as much sugar as possible. They never ran a blood test. It might be smart to look for diabetes. It's in my family. We all like food. It can slow your digestive system down and constipate you. Never told me to see an allergist. Maybe a GI guy. Maybe it's a parasite. Nope.

[@trafficjon400]

no kidding

[@patriziaderungs6088]

Respect man! Not many people have such a high level of integrity like you do!

[@thelilliad]

Thank you for speaking out against this insane and horrific system ❤

[@Nexus31323]

I was in therapy since I was a little girl, almost 40 years of my life. No stupid therapist could tip me off that I was living with an undercover psychopathic father, which unconsciously led me to choose a similar husband. The day I divorced my parents and my then husband, I recovered my health in a few months, I got off the pills, I found a serene, economically productive, and happy life. I learned about narcissism on KZbin, in three months, more than all the psychologists and psychiatrists I had in my life.

[@chris2790]

Yep. Sad how things work with "experts" and "science".

[@cgc1581]

Very similar here. ❤

[@pysq8]

And people can throw around the phrase, "they need therapy", as if it means they'll actually get help. 😢 So glad you found your way!...my fellow KZbin University alum(s). ❤

[@babyrani5207]

Good job

[@JohnDoe-jn4ex]

Darn Tootin,

[@sophiakh9590]

I find comfort in your talks. You're so real.

[@KathrynEleanor]

You’re a very empathetic person. That’s an amazing quality to have. It keeps you in-tune with everybody.

[@andrewbarrett1537]

LamazeMe Do you know this from personal experience?

[@thediabolicalempath7246]

LamazeMe Being empathic is good. But, you need to set boundaries.

[@christopherwalker8240]

The Observer that's basically what he is saying. :)

[@maxmillman9477]

I know what you mean; I can't seem to turn off or even filter my empathy for others. I just don't know how. I used to consider becoming a therapist, but thought better of it, for the sake of my mind.

[@christopherwalker8240]

ginge gingerton haha! That was great.

[@judyberes8655]

Sounds like you quit being a therapist for many of the same reasons I quit the legal profession. Also, the trauma I'd suffer as a result of these cases made my life unmanageable. I'm glad the KZbin bots introduced me to your channel. What I've watched so far has made a lot of sense.

[@fabe8947]

know it's not simple but Assuming to have adhered to the unethical market charges a bit by maintaining, High Value Clients and to have used some of it to fund the ones for whom therapy might not had been affordable and also to have used some of that fund to take the we'll deserving breaks once in a while to follow his own interests and pursuit, would probably have made him to be more acceptable and collaborative for his colleagues thus also to get their support for the good therapist he was and also to not only have left the profession, but instead to have had looked up to him by his peers and maybe later in his life maintain a position of training the upcoming ones and helping them with the necessary experience and mindset to hopefully create the necessary changes of the status quo of the entire MENTAL INDUSTRY for the good is what I'm looking at. Thoughts? TY

[@Sam-lv2fc]

From an ex-therapist and happier person, thank you so much for naming so perfectly these deep-seated issues of the profession.

[@ladeek35]

Fellow ex-thx here as well! Nice to be happier today, right?! Peace.

[@joannalf4750]

@@ladeek35 if i may ask, does worrying for the clients still haunt you? i fear not caring anymore will feel wrong...

[@ladeek35]

@@joannalf4750 Apart of me will always care for my former clients, I must trust that I did my best work and they are living better lives. I know this to be true for many many clients. No worrying for me. Plus, I pray for them and send good intentions wherever they are today. The only thing that “haunts” (your word) me are a few of the bad traumatic stories. I will never forget. I’m doing my own somatic trauma work now for that stress. No guilt for me. Peace

[@fabe8947]

know it's not simple but Assuming to have adhered to the unethical market charges a bit by maintaining, High Value Clients and to have used some of it to fund the ones for whom therapy might not had been affordable and also to have used some of that fund to take the we'll deserving breaks once in a while to follow his own interests and pursuit, would probably have made him to be more acceptable and collaborative for his colleagues thus also to get their support for the good therapist he was and also to not only have left the profession, but instead to have had looked up to him by his peers and maybe later in his life maintain a position of training the upcoming ones and helping them with the necessary experience and mindset to hopefully create the necessary changes of the status quo of the entire MENTAL INDUSTRY for the good is what I'm looking at. Thoughts ?

[@martidumastube]

yep, you just confirmed many of my hesitations, especially this one "I think mental health burns the common sense out of people, who have a natural gift for being a therapist and the end result, as a result of all their professional training, is that they became worse therapists." thank you for sharing this. I am happy you decided to be free!

[@lydiarosario7114]

I am a therapist and I have been in therapy..its unique to be in both sides. I think the biggest concern is too many people enter the field to "help others" and burn out when they realize they are not superheros and can not "cure" thier clients. I also think burn out is huge in therapy when therapists take on thier clients issues. Also you would be surprised how many therapists are "wounded heros" and are really just reliving their own issues through thier clients. I think another shocking aspect is how many therpaists do not like people and do not actually think therapy works! As a therapist my main goal is to get the client to a place where they are able to live a life that is the best it can be for them. I work with adults and truama but I am able to set it aside once the session is over..how? I relealized this is thier journey not mine..I am simply there to give that unconditional postive regard . Also I went through trauma myself as a child and through that I think I lost my sympathy for trauma and developed empathy which let me let it go after the session. Now the responsibilty is a hard one..I tell clients to tell me ..tell me when I am wrong..tell me when I do wrong but so many clients lack this skill..hence why they seek therapy. Also the assessing for suicudal or homidical ideation is that hardest part!! That is that one I struggle with the most and I try to error on the side of caution but thats not always 100%. I am human I can make a mistake..have an off day and to think the result could be a client killing themselves..its a huge burden to carry. However I still truly believe in the therapeutic process..I might not always..but for now I still do.

[@urboideath_6662]

Lydia Rosario I just hate it when a therapist changes the medication or doesn't give u what works for u. Like u said, u only help them cope with their daily problems and its up to the person to make life changes. Yet some therapist don't even want to help with the medication one is comfortable taking. Especially a patient that's been around the medication and knows what does and doesn't work for them and the therapist ignores the patient like we are stupid and don't know anything. Its like the therapist wants the satisfaction of saying "everything worked cuz I did it my way", that is dangerous by playing with a persons livelihood by ignoring them just to get a self satisfaction of accomplishment to throw in our faces which never happens. They make medication for a reason, IDC what it is, they make it for a purpose, not to keep it from people. Don't be prick and listen to your patients and don't withhold prescriptions because of the dangers, like I said, they make meds for a reason, not to withhold them from someone who needs it

[@Sausahgagutz]

+Andres Torres It seems that every med-dispensing psych doc feels some tremendous self-validating need to alter the meds previously prescribed by another psych doc as if they want to brand you with their own formulation. There's somehow a need to put their own signature on you they see as "my brand, not someone else's."

[@martinyes9788]

Good input

[@melissa6261975]

I was a counselor for one year. I have a student loan now for years, for a career I found out that I did not like. I was miserable after that year, and have no desire to ever counsel again. It is sad to say, but the truly loving and caring therapists become traumatized by listening to it all.

[@lisa2000geese]

I had a similar experience, it's why I'm not a therapist anymore

[@stephthinks3109]

Same here. But my husband is pushing me to continue because of the salary but I care WAY too much and affects my soul!

[@davidestabrook5367]

​@@stephthinks3109Reality is really horrendous, it's painful to listen to. And most people can't cope with the knowledge of how it actually is. But taking care of yourself is the most important thing, as if your work is causing you to suffer, then it's time to make a change.

[@tumarmaa2984]

that's actually a good thing. No one truly loving/caring would never just....NOT be phased by listening to such awful things.

[@tumarmaa2984]

@@stephthinks3109 no amount of money could ever stop your soul from rotting

[@kacystuart622]

Your comments totally resonate with me. I was a court reporter in a state District Court for 10 years. I loved my job and worked hard to get there, but the stories I heard on a daily basis began to break me down over time. Fortunately, I wasn't asked to fix any problems as you were, or I certainly wouldn't have lasted as long as I did. In addition, I was exposed to abused children, really little children, which was even worse. I couldn't unhear what I heard over and over. I thought I would get more calloused over time as most of my colleagues seemed to be, but it worked in the complete opposite for me. I ultimately made the decision to pursue other interests.

[@helenm6732]

Not what I expected, but the model Daniel advocates is community and kindness. Peace to him. He’s left goodness and kindness in the world. What a legacy.

[@christiedunlap6214]

I am a licensed massage therapist and I have noticed that my clients talk about their troubles when I am working on them because they are very relaxed and comfortable with me. I just listen as I was trained not to give advice. I was considering going back to school for mental health therapy, but listening to you lets me know I don’t need to go there. 😅

[@openyourmind3763]

Yes, I am a trauma therapist and people hold trauma in the body for decades, often unconsciously, and your safe, healing touch helps them release emotions. Yoga too. You are a true healer but be sure to protect your energy, too.

[@thehappyparenteffect]

I had this experience as a massage therapist too. It's quite fascinating and I wonder if it's something that naturally comes out when someone is being nurtured through massage or perhaps massage therapy attracts people who are naturally open hearted listeners? Or maybe a combination of both? =)

[@gillagroupie]

Me too! I've been an LMT for 10 years, and I've been kicking around the idea of becoming a liscenced mental health counselor. But so many of the issues that frustrate me about massage therapy are mirrored in psychotherapy. I think the two fields attract similar people. there is much to consider and i'm uncertain of my future direction.

[@alextomlinson]

​@@thehappyparenteffect It could be a mammalian instinct. If a young animal is hurt it goes to it's guardian to get licked and nurtured. If someone's muscles are sore and you're working out the pain for them maybe it's just a natural instinct or reflex to spill the rest of their pain onto you 😅

[@alextomlinson]

​@@openyourmind3763 what is a trauma therapist and how does it differ from a standard licensed therapist

[@what.you.allowyou.permit2030]

This is fantastic, Daniel. I worked in the mental health industry for 26 years.😢 You've nicely deconstructed all this. Thank you for articulating all it so well.

[@fabe8947]

know it's not simple but Assuming to have adhered to the unethical market charges a bit by maintaining, High Value Clients and to have used some of it to fund the ones for whom therapy might not had been affordable and also to have used some of that fund to take the we'll deserving breaks once in a while to follow his own interests and pursuit, would probably have made him to be more acceptable and collaborative for his colleagues thus also to get their support for the good therapist he was and also to not only have left the profession, but instead to have had looked up to him by his peers and maybe later in his life maintain a position of training the upcoming ones and helping them with the necessary experience and mindset to hopefully create the necessary changes of the status quo of the entire MENTAL INDUSTRY for the good is what I'm looking at. Thoughts?

[@what.you.allowyou.permit2030]

@@fabe8947 Great idea, probably. Something i myself wouldn't know except with the wisdom of hindsight. If you're in a position to do as you're suggesting, then go for it❣️🙏☕

[@fabe8947]

@@what.you.allowyou.permit2030 ty for support. Definitely wish I would. But i was more of hoping for your thoughts on how naive / non practical i sound, from your experience. Guidance much appreciated

[@what.you.allowyou.permit2030]

@@fabe8947 In that case work in ANY field that pays the most and use your wealth to support the marginalized.

[@gedofgont1006]

Gut wrenching honesty from a guy the world could do with hearing far more from. His sensitivity and authenticity is both humbling and slightly terrifying at the same time: there is so much unresolved trauma out there - and in here!

[@saida817]

On point 👏

[@teddayer6523]

I am a therapist and an MD since 1991. And i have to agree almost 100% with what Daniel said here.

[@VaJennaGames]

just wondering - even that part about Kids shouldn't be in therapy?

[@melloyellow5598]

@@Rafael-xu9cn Love, genuine acceptance, structure, stability, room to grow mentally and physically, parents and care-givers that don't "cross boundaries", protection from evil-doers... They need alot but Love is at the top of the list. Karen Carpenter's song "Bless The Beasts And The Children" says so much.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

@@VaJennaGames what problem could a kid have that can be helped by therapy, tho?

[@VaJennaGames]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 yea. I doubt we will reach an agreement here. But some kids don't get taken care of. Some kids get raped and abused physically and emotionally. I was lucky enough to see a therapist in high school and she was a godsend. And throughout middle school while i was being ruthlessly bullied, the school guidance counsellor was a very needed source of support.

[@kaylap.1191]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 How about rape and neglect?

[@Mang-ej5ul]

I have taken a break from my therapy degree. After listening to you discuss vicarious traumatizing and getting sick, I don’t think I want to go back. I want to help people (and myself) through joyful activities instead. Like communal drumming classes. I want to spend my time celebrating life not mourning it.

[@englishbreno7659]

I'm in my first year of psychology degree but I keep thinking if that's what I really wanna follow in my life bc maybe can bring much more problems and stress so I don't really know.

[@maxalberts2003]

Drumming? Really? Really? No wonder you've "taken a break." It appears you've suffered one too.

[@Mang-ej5ul]

@@maxalberts2003 yes communal drumming therapy has been used in prisons, PTSD of veterans at the VA, cancer patients in hospitals, and for developmentally challenged. There is a ton of research out there for how healing it is for the brain on a neurological level.

[@Mang-ej5ul]

@@MichaelDamianPHD Drumming is therapy. It’s somatic. Talk therapy does not help everyone.

[@Mang-ej5ul]

@@MichaelDamianPHD I did not say that. I said communal drumming is used as a somatic therapy ( Peter Levine bottom up theory). It has a lot of neuroscience research behind it. It has been used in various settings for various issues. Such as: at the VA hospitals for veterans pain management. Found to lower need for opioids. many of whom have ptsd. It has also been used in Hospitals for cancer patients. It’s also been utilized in Prisons as communal aspect shows that it increases Emotional Intelligence & cooperation skills. It helps with co-regulation and grounding, which is good for anxiety. It has also been utilized to help increase communication skills for non-verbal population. Talk therapy can be handled in addition to somatic therapy, but that person doesn’t have to be me!

[@laraoneal7284]

This is a good man with integrity. He’s an empath. I’ve never had a therapist with empathy. They’ve all been bad. Most of us have had very bad parenting. God bless him

[@laraoneal7284]

Babybird Oligodendrocyte Your on point. The sad thing is though that obviously they are discouraging good ppl like you who would probably be an empathic therapist from even entering the field. It is tragic. I gave up on all therapy because of the ineptness and even cruel therapists and psychiatrists. I got mega educated on my own to help myself and ended up re-parenting myself and became a great therapist to myself. I worked very hard to help myself and understand the psychopaths that raised me, thank God literally. I went no contact with my family of origin over 20 years ago. The best thing i could have ever done. What Daniel says is so true too. These therapists, psychiatrists etc have never done one iota of their own family of origin work EVER so they do not even get us. I even asked several therapists if they had done any of this work the answer was NO or they just rudely dismissed me. I dumped every one of them in total disgust. If only we loved and appreciated ppl like Daniel. Unfortunately he is a total rarity . SO SAD.

[@saraH-yu1mx]

Lara O'neal I had one who claimed she was an “empath” but was one of the cruelest therapists I’ve had. It wasn’t until I met my life coach, a real empath, that I noticed a huge difference and actually received help.

[@laraoneal7284]

sara H ppl can say anything and obviously it is bs. Ive had ppl tell me they were an empath also and they are straight up malignant narcissists. I know the difference. That is total abuse for the idiot telling you that. These ppl are totally ignorant and inept and should not be there. I hope u left immediately.

[@saraH-yu1mx]

Lara O'neal I absolutely left immediately, after she told me “see that’s your problem, you talk to much” just because I didn’t give her a yes or no answer to a question. I thought she wanted in depth answers, plus I was there to talk... I can also relate to your comment about narcissists. My ex husband was one(where my trauma originated) and he thought he was just so thoughtful and kind. If he helped out a homeless person he would go on about it forever. True empaths can see and feel others(I’m one myself) therefor I know when people are bsing me, but for people who aren’t empaths themselves they can obviously be fooled. I hate the mental health “industry” and have found so much more help in alternative coaching and medicine.

[@laraoneal7284]

sara H Yes I totally agree. NARCS are Narcs for a reason. They believe NOTHING is wrong with them. I had a narc tell me she was an empath and I about fell off my chair. I’ve known her all my life and have NEVER seen her cry. Ever. I’m an empath and abuse of children breaks my heart whether I know the child or not and I will break down crying. Im always helping ppl many times to my detriment. I’ve had to pull back because my empathy has almost gotten me killed because once I helped the wrong person and had to call police to have this person removed. I offered to help him for just a few days and I told him he had to go and he would not. There was no sex involved whatsoever. He was on my couch but long story short I don’t help ppl like that ever again. It was just one time. Have u gone on Narcissist Resistance channel. It is jaw dropping. He can’t keep up with all the stories he gets thousands per week. This is a huge problem for over half of all of us. Narcs are evil. I’ve terminated all narcs out of my life including my entire family. It’s sad but it has to be done. I just want peace I’ve gone on too long sorry. But I’m still glad u left the idiot narc therapist. I’ve had too much experience with them also. I love Daniel here. I cried listening o him such a sweet compassionate heart. I wish I could have had someone like him helping me. I agree with everything he says and the poor guy got sick because he couldn’t do it anymore. It’s called vicarious trauma. I have to be very cautious who I help because most really just will walk all over us and we have to protect our own boundaries and health. I wish u the very best. Thank God I never married a narc. My parents cured me of that. I never wanted anyone in my life that reminded me of them. It was hell living with them and I left at 20 and never went back. About 10 years after that I got into a serious incest recovery program. Meetings, seminars. And voracious reading of books to get educated on all of it. Now I’m recovering from recovery. Lol

[@John-sg5un]

It's too bad you stopped your therapy practice. You're one in a million who actually truly cares about people.

[@100Mizrachi-ib8gw]

10 years is a long time to be self sacrificing. I am happy he’s living the life that he enjoys, he deserves it.

[@sunkyasisa1834]

He is now doing therapy across this channel

[@nighthawkviper6791]

Yeah but people don't care about him. Especially not Muricans.

[@deannamartin6827]

Yes he possibly is "one in a million" but if you listened to the entire video, you'd realize it was literally making him ill. There comes a time to save oneself.

[@Fido-vm9zi]

Perhaps he is meant to be led someplace better.

[@happytrails699]

No doctor has ever wanted to help my son get OFF his meds. They don't even know how to taper the meds properly. They just want you on them.

[@jadedfox4680]

Yeah i've had that experience. I've been severely depressed since I was a teen and ever since doctors have done nothing but try to put me on a bunch of meds which didn't help the depression just made me worse. And it's true it's like they just want to put you on a bunch of crap and they don't ever stop to consider that meds don't work for everyone and that there are other treatment methods but insurance rarely covers them and theyre expensive. And they never bother to understand what's at the root of your depression or anxiety like what could be causing it they just stamp a generic label on you and don't even bothering understand you or your unique issues.

[@Shasha8674]

No gluten/dairy/soy/sugar/GMO/food with a label...taking vitamins/good oils/minerals...probiotic...LDN..detoxing....Zn/Mg/fish oil/evening primrose oil/lecithin/HCl and enzymes with meals/strong probiotic before a meal/Nature's plus- Source of life multiple/rhodiola/coenzyme Q10/folate/ 5000mcg of biotin/Vit B12 with intrinsic factor. Gluten is wheat/barley/rye..oats/corn/rice. Rice is low in gluten. Grain free may help people/pets fast. LDN helps block hidden gluten. Vit D3/sunlight/grounding/sweating to detox then sea salt to restore good minerals/eating organic /no vaccines and more may help ADD/ADHD. No gluten/GMO may help intestines heal so more nutrients absorb that rebuild cells in the brain/body to work right.

[@nofurtherwest3474]

Shasha what you're spouting is too complicated. Try just eliminating everything except broccoli and chicken... see how you feel then. OR just eat beef. Often people feel better on meat because they are getting the B vitamins which help with mood.

[@jennifercowden502]

Marla Robinson that's because your son is a cash cow to then most physc doctors receive some sort of kick back & are very found of prescribing meds to counter side effects , are you aware that cat scans have shown the exact same type of brain damage in both long term hradcore durg users and long term physicotrophic Durg users , are you aware that your poisoning your son , was it a feminist teacher that pressured you to posin your son simply because he's a boy ? In ethier case mabey you should stop giving your son the meds and strat taking them after what's sauce for the gose is sauce for the gander

[@happytrails699]

Can you refer me to the study that showed that?

[@thatnikkiyouknow]

So much of this resonates with me. I did my undergrad in psychology with the intention of becoming a therapist. My own family of origin trauma reached a peak and I couldn’t continue on that path though I continued to work in mental health using my active listening training. After going to several therapists over the years, I’ve discovered that I am my own best therapist and I’ve helped myself heal so much. That mind gut connection has brought me to study nutrition in the hopes that I can help people heal while focusing on beauty and life. Inspiring people to see the beauty in healthy eating that supports mental clarity and deep healing

[@yvonnes8701]

it's sad how systems kill professions of passion. I was once a teacher. It's not the profession but rather the structure in place that ruins it all. It's like they create dysfunction on purpose? (conspiracy theory)

[@nw1378]

as someone who hates traditional schooling and has been traumatized by the staff and students, i agree...

[@starisesun7692]

Exactly.They do.They love create chaos .It makes it easier to control us.

[@janinem5196]

I got only as far as student teaching, saw the dark underbelly, and got the hell out. Our children are being traumatized daily.

[@jenna2431]

Totally agree. I was a teacher for a very short time--had to leave it before I got in too long and couldn't. The system is ridiculous, just feckin' ridiculous. It doesn't exist to educate; it exists to maintain the "professionals."

[@cynthiaallen9225]

The people in thoses systems is what kills it. All mental health professionals should have to receive therapy, and complete it.

[@4rowlands]

This man is a true therapist. So incredibly honest. God bless.

[@mm669]

My therapist charged $300 an hour. She spent most of our sessions talking about her "epic" divorce. I'm lucky I had professional therapists before so I could compare and realize that this woman was way, way out of line.

[@yourignoranceistheirpower.6307]

M M you should of charged her instead.

[@jenrich111]

So inappropriate

[@mm669]

You might be right. She also used to walk into my session ten minutes late and make a point of telling me she was held up talking to her gardener. Once spent almost an entire session telling me that anti-depression and anti-anxiety medications were a placebo AND THEN sold me aromatherapy that she keeps in her office to sell to clients. I was to "people pleaser" to not buy it but knew this was wrong. Chastised me when I came into her office crying. She said, "I have nine other patients to see today, and I'm working through lunch." The tone said, get your shit together and don't make my job difficult. We spent that session with me listening to her complain about how hard it was for her to get good caregivers for her mom. I could go on, but you get the point. Thank God I'm 55, not 25, or that woman could have done some serious damage to me. I have a very codependent friend who recommended this woman to me. I feel so bad cause my friend is still going to her. And, I feel bad for her other clients too. This woman works from a top school in a major US city.

[@thedativecase9733]

I had a woman "therapist" on the NHS who spent the whole time going on about her fantastic relationship with her gifted daughter, adding " you can't have children so you will never know this wonderful experience..." Seriously what an insensitive narcissist. I quit after two sessions and made a formal complaint. I also had an NHS therapist who was wonderful, not just a fantastic therapist but a wonderful and caring person. I was so sad when she moved to another part of the country but we are still friends.

[@jenrich111]

What a self-absorbed BITCH. Just want to kick them where it hurts. Drain their bank account and smash their BMW.

[@aisthpaoitht]

It seems to me that there is a huge void in society that religion/church and a sense of community used to fill. When he said that everyone should know how to be a therapist, that really struck a chord with me. Humanity lost its ability to be compassionate, vulnerable, and understanding. It is ridiculous, when you think about it, that we have a specialized profession of people who get paid to empathetically listen to others without judgment. That just shows that we dont listen to others with empathy and without judgment. Society is diseased with a loss of meaning and humanity.

[@race_to_the_bottom7331]

It is not ALL humanity. It is Western civilization, and especially the US and probably the UK

[@jaceyates6315]

yknow at one point, people thought the internet would do the opposite....

[@holidaynexpress]

​@@race_to_the_bottom7331ehhhh id argue not, lots of asian countries at least struggle greatly with mental health problems. iirc a lot of japanese citizens in particular say that talking about mental health is very looked down upon, so most people don't talk about that to others, which leads them to suffer

[@susanivy3619]

​@@holidaynexpress Exactly, they just love to bash the US in the comment sections. Theirs a term in Japanese, it's Karoshi and has to do with literally overworking yourself to de@th...or some commit suic!de over it. Give me a break, u have ch!ldren working in China as sIave labor ffs. Listen to him "it's all Western blah, blah" The Us for sure, probably the UK...the guy is taIking out his azz. So many countries outside of the Western ones he's talking about have problems far greater than the ones were discussing here...

[@susanivy3619]

@@race_to_the_bottom7331 Pray, tell us, what are the names of these wonderfully compassionate countries, full of understanding towards humanity that you speak of? 😂 I can't wait to hear which ones you name lol. I'm sure there are a few nice countries to live in but it's funny tho, I never see anyone flocking to most (if any) of these countries seeking citizenship, or a work visa. edit: I noticed the one video u have up, please tell me one of the countries you're referring to in terms of compassi0n, understanding and human!ty is China, oh please, I'd love a good laugh.

[@veryvermilion]

I went into social work because it was the path of least resistance for me. I graduated from college--got a bachelor's degree in sociology and human services. I had no plans as to what I could do with these degrees. Heck, I wasn't even supposed to study these fields but for me, they were easy classes. Had it been up to me--had I really studied what I wanted to study, I would have focused on the arts. But where's the money in that? Not that social work is a lucrative field. So, I ended up with these degrees. And right before graduation, one of my professors started talking to me about becoming a professional social worker. I remember him saying, "My wife just graduated with her master's degree in social work. All she has to do now is go through 2 years of supervision and then she can 'hang out a shingle' and become a therapist." Made sense to me, so that's what I did. And I was a mediocre student in my undergraduate school work. I skated by. I buckled down the last two years--made the dean's list each semester. But there were a lot of other students I went to school with who were much more focused and who did so much better than I did academically. When it came time for us to apply to the one college that offered a master's degree in social work, they were denied entrance while I was accepted with open arms simply because I was a man I think in my graduating class in social work, there were only 4 guys and over 40 women. I ended up working in the medical field as a social worker. I wasn't a "clinician". I didn't see clients on a weekly basis. My job was to help people transition from independence to some level of dependence--whether it would be a long-term or short-term dependent situation. I worked with people for anywhere from a few days to a few weeks--helping them to wrap their heads around their medical situations and how it was going to impact their lives in the near future. I remember going through graduate school thinking that most of the stuff they were teaching us was nothing but "smoke and mirrors". It was hard to take much of it seriously. And when they tried so desperately to make social work into a science--well, that just made absolutely no sense to me. As I worked in the field of medical social work, it amazed me that there were so many of my colleagues who were becoming licensed. Back in my day, there were no Licensed Medical Social Workers. I felt the pressure to become an LCSW. I went through the steps--got all of my supervision hours needed to sit for the exam--paid my fees to take the exam. But as I would study for the exam--as I went through all of those practice tests, they made absolutely no sense to me at all. There was NO common sense when it came to reading a vignette and then deciding how to proceed in therapy. I just could not get it no matter how many times I would take these practice tests. No matter how many cassette tapes I listened to--no matter how many videotapes I watched, none of it made sense. There was no common sense. Now, in the real world, as a medical social worker, I did amazing work. I'm not boasting. I was the social worker that waded in where angels feared to tread. It took me quite some time to develop my skills as a medical social worker because there was no training in the medical field where I went to school. They were too busy trying to crank out as many therapists as possible. I was really, really good at what I did. But, I had to leave the field. The health care system is such a sick and disgusting system--pretty much based on making as much money as possible on the backs of the sickest and poorest people on the planet. Putting people out of the hospital because they have no insurance or bad insurance--without a thought as to what their real medical needs were. My God, I could tell stories... You'd never want to go to a hospital if you really knew what goes on behind the scenes. I saw how the hamburger was made and have NO desire to ever be a part of that system again.

[@Dudebrointhesky]

[@PassifloraCerulea]

"...while I was accepted with open arms simply because I was a man..." Now that's something you don't hear every day. As the *ahem* intersection of identities that are universally hated on these days, that's kind of refreshing. The rest of it is not. So much of modern healthcare seems to be an outright scam. Our society is deeply sick and it's going to be a ton of working righting the ship-if it doesn't kill us first.

[@kimames3347]

Wow finally listened to someone who could relate to why I quit counseling. I worked with adults and children. At risk teens who were trafficked, abused, neglected. For those who didn't have no more than hyperactivity or not be challenged in school I asked parents to not place their children on medication (although I wasn't supposed to) but I asked them to do their own research. I was told that I was crazy for leaving the field by friends, family and co-workers. As he said due to empathizing with their trauma it took an emotional toll on my mind and body, definitely the gut being effected. Not knowing this was the direct.The medication and side effects from that still hasn't healed. People will advice you not to take work home but what a double standard when you have to take you to work. There's no way to separate yourself from this feild unless you honestly have no empathy or are just doing it for the money. No amount of money is worth your sanity. After nearly 20 years I am searching for something else to do although helping ppl with mental illness is my passion but I became ill myself by proxy, that vicarious traumatization. I'm Glad I came across this channel. Now I can stop beating myself up for what I thought was a poor choice because it also took a toll on me financially. Through any profession you must take care of YOURSELF first.

[@raymorrow1491]

May I ask what you do now?

[@Fmblogger04]

May God bless and heal you. Peace be with you.

[@RomanHold]

how do you take care of yourself, when finding a job/profession is your problem and the lack of money forced you to quit studying so 18 years of school and university were all for nothing, because now you are forced to apply for shitty minimum wage jobs, which also make you depressed? i mean i lost my sanity and instead of getting any amount of money, i am in huge dept because of my student loan (wich was like 400 a month, but not enaugh for rent). why lose your sanity and become rich, when you can lose your sanity and/because you have become poor?

[@ashharkausar413]

@@RomanHold Why not build your own business to deal with hand that fate dealt you? Entrepreneurship isn't a bad option. You can always turn your life around but you need a plan and need to stop being emotional.

[@johnnybates7580]

Big hug!

[@susanaduarteraposo]

You are amazing. It’s a pity that the world hasn’t many courageous people like you to speak out!

[@circularisnotthis4316]

I agree that medication for psychiatric disorders has become out of control. It’s insane in and of itself. We have a failing society that cannot meet people’s basic needs for homes, jobs and community.

[@Fido-vm9zi]

So many things must change. I have faith change is coming.

[@sheryn6922]

Hi Daniel: I left the field, as well for the very same reasons. I just wish I had done it earlier. Your video should be a "gotta see" for all college students in Psych 101. Thanks for the validation AND the TRUTH!

[@marisaviteritti5836]

Sheryn B definitely helped me realize I can help people without the “title”.

[@sheryn6922]

Legal Assistant.

[@truth431]

@@sheryn6922 eats mostly off food stamps and currently works part time as a street hustler / begs for spare change and also collects bottles on the side all to pay for them costly therapist sessions never mind the matter of paying back his college tuition ! yes i loved my job because it taught me how to go insane caring more for people with mental health problems then as the majority of therapist who get paid far greater to remain sane in mental health practices beyond the educative means as more so suggestive thought based practices trained to what to think never the wiser practices how to think correct within values or ones moral causes to do the right thing for all the right people for all the right of all minds matters within reaching the people never the less those who want needless when fools taught what to think is the effect of cause to becoming of human thoughtless disregard for humanity as to become of all suroundings of mental heath related practices thus how mindless and dismiss this matter of counter intuitive effect creates for to actually cause conflicts out of human state of confusion all as by permitting others to do ones own thinking for them are those cheating themselves as by effect few evil minds involved created by the uses of power of suggestion brain washing conditioning minds to become of ignorance one who does as told do as or say to follow becoming as so deceiving misleading careless in the effect caused by these evil minded practices without anything of self control within mindful host as morals for guidance within the values of their life in areas of practices of mental health as if it were all a social engineering concept developed by a mad science as that within the effect is the cause that answers as all minds matter of actual truthful fact as stems from the hidden secrets behind the big picture as few but them could see as to think correct through its makers design practice as it was based as evil to be so dam self defeating its actually a setup to drive the world in our masses us all as people been cheated blind on both sides beyond point becoming mad scientist while people seeking truthful help never mind how to think correct so no mind nothing can actually matter be of help as to prove will actually benefit the clients or the therapist till both sides clearly see beyond the illusion of progress that intentionally is setup to confuse the masses ! i hope your up for this hard read i am nearly blind i can no longer make out the punctuation keys just a natural part of life getting old but i swear given as my life to god i host this answer to a major world wide masses minds controlled by a few evil minds own conspiracy thus as i practice as an actual conspiracy realist i no the answers in need not as one who blindly does as fools who wants doing as deceived unwitting to the effect cheating them all blind as simple minding matters do as told as followers never seeing through their lies I CAN AND IT IS ACTUALLY MORE SCARY THEN PEOPLE COULD FOUND OF THE MEANS AS I HAVE TO SET IN PLACE OF THE RIGHT MINDS POSSIBLE AS TO IMAGINE JUST WHAT MADE THESE MATTERS OCCUR TO REACH MY MIND AS THAT ANSWER STRICTLY TO A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITHIN MY THOUGHT PRACTICES A SIMPLE WELL KEPT OPEN MINDED VIEW AS MY OWN HOST GUIDE I FOUND THE ANSWER THANK YOU AND PLEASE DO AS BEST TO THINK CORRECT BY AS I SAY DO NOT OVERLOOK THE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS AND YOU WILL BECOME VERY IMPRESSED AS A MATTER OF FACT ITS UNDENIABLE TRUTH AS I NEED NOT EVER TELL SUCH LIES AS SUCH WOULD DEFEAT THE PRACTICE

[@rubina1868]

It should be shown in pharmacy school

[@Jasmyne444]

I completely agree, I think anyone considering going to the Psych field for any career should watch this video first because it is incredibly accurate and thorough.

[@Sigalhodbh]

You are simply an empathic human being. And very wise. ❤

[@RebeccaOsterbergFamilyandMusic]

I 100% get why you quit. You have my support as a survivor of childhood trauma; knowing why our pain hurt you so much. I will never give up. Why? Because there’s a chance I will find someone like you to help me pick apart our story and recreate a better journey for the future. That includes other family member, friends, neighbors and more. Take care of yourself and live your best life. I can because of some wonderful people, therapists like you. ❤ Namaste!

[@joanofarc33]

So basically you left because you were a good therapist but the system isn’t designed for those brave enough to see how the system is a sham.

[@gingerellacookie5641]

he's a hero

[@AmethystWoman]

And because he had a boundary issue. No judgement, it's tough. But any job, any job, that you let consume your entire life, even being a pastor or a car mechanic will strip you if your spark for life. It sounds like you took on others depression. It's good you quit. For your sake and your clients. You need to take care if yourself to mirror that also back to your clients to and not contribute to a pathological dependency. I appreciate how you fought the system, but you needed to take better care of yourself. Glad you are now.

[@DK-uc9zr]

+Modern Witchery I wish you'd have contacted a news network to cover the story; even if it was a local news station.

[@sneezedoc1]

Maintenance Renegade It's not society in general that is broken, it is the American society and all the profit based constructs that destroy our society. Capitalism as practiced in the US is a mental illness. It does not care for people but only those that could be profitable. The American Healthcare system is the ultimate in cold calloused disregard for every human being, the only thing that matters is the dollar bills associated with the patient. The rest are sent home to die. I know because I retired from pediatrics at 50 years of age.

[@ixxgxx]

David Bailey I agree, I was forced to go to "integrated model" 1 hr therapy sessions to quick 15 minute "tune up sessions". How do you do that while welcoming a 75yo F who wants to finally disclose childhood trauma?

[@austecon6818]

As a Junior medical doctor I spent around 6 weeks in a hospital psych ward and to this day I have mixed feelings about it. Mostly the holding people down and forcefully injecting them with super heavy duty anti-psychotic medications that turn them all drowsy for like 3 or more days... Pretty horrifying and undignified. If I were in that position I'd probably be fighting people to the death tbh... Call me "crazy" but I take violations of bodily autonomy very very very seriously and so that was hard for me to watch. You sound like an absolute legend by the way!

[@kathygritzmacher90]

It's so Scary

[@Sheba_316]

What did you do about it? It doesn’t help saying this and not voicing your concerns.

[@austecon6818]

@@Sheba_316 as a junior doctor I was only really there to watch and learn for the most part and do paper work, bloods, chart trivial meds, physical exams... I was more there to ensure their physical health and send them to the hospital if their physical health was bad enough... the consultant psychiatrists were the ones looking after their mental health I was mostly observing as far as that goes or offering general moral support as someone with limited psych training beyond the basics that GPs know. I never prescribed any of those hard-core tranquilizer things or held anyone down. But I saw it happen. I wasn't in any kind of position of authority to make comments about any of it and I wasn't even sure how I felt about it all at the time... But since leaving medicine and having more life experiences and struggles... having a girlfriend with a few mental health issues and on quite a few psych meds... it's given me quite a different perspective from the outside looking in... I think psych meds are WAAAAAAAY overprescribed.

[@alejandrawalker5045]

You are a healer, you are a Saint, you are a diamond

[@hulasantabarbara2719]

Wow, this is so sad, beautiful and moving. The mirroring from your clients that were touched by your truly caring moved me deeply. I read somewhere that a truly good therapist shows their clients love, which you obviously did. Thank you so much for sharing this. I always thought it was weird that people need so much training to be a licensed therapist, when all people really need is someone to listen and care. I have felt like I missed my calling, but you have made it very clear to me that I did not and I'm very grateful. I'm glad you got out of it and I hope you are recovered physically, as well as emotionally.

[@thankyoujesus2836]

Omg I just want to say that I’m so darn proud of you!!!! Thank you for being leading as an authentic example!!!! I’m so glad someone like you exists!! I can tell you my experience with the mental health system has been nothing but traumatizing!! Thank you Jesus.

[@Don-co9zs]

wtf has jesus got to do with it . did jesus get you into the mental health system

[@MelissaJoyfully]

On my website I offer for FREE - Some of the physical causes of depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia & other mood, brain & physical diseases. (ADHD, cancers, Alzheimer's, eating disorders etc) I have done HUNDREDS of hours of research (I started it to save my daughters life - she had a psychotic breakdown 2014- you can see more details about us/her at www.gofundme.com/MentalHealthforALL ) but continued because I knew people needed all the science, biochemistry, facts to be SIMPLIFIED. So that is what I attempted to do. Simplify the facts - so that people can begin to heal - truly. It IS possible. One of the biochemists I quote often in my studies is William J. Walsh PHD author of the book "Nutrient Power, Heal Your Biochemistry and Heal Your Brain". Please go to my website (I don't sell vitamins or things of that nature - I am doing this from the LOVE in my Heart, to you, and for you & yours) - & contact me if you have questions. We are all in this together. #LovePEACE on Earth & Blessings for ALL! #WWLD #WhatWouldLoveDo

[@thankyoujesus2836]

Don where did I say that? 😆

[@thankyoujesus2836]

Melissa Joyfully omg!! I just read what your daughter went through. How is she doing? Is she still taking medication? This should be illegal. I’m so sorry you and your daughter went through this. It is absolutely horrendous to say the least. What if you just take your stuff and move do a different state or even country? Stay farrrr away from them as far as possible. Praying for you and your daughter

[@andreasieffert2322]

This was so refreshing to listen to! Over a year ago i graduated from college to work as a counsellor. In my attempts at looking for a job within established practices, online counselling and in the mental health system, I came up against block after block - I did not have the right educational qualifications. As if someone with a Master's degree or a registered Social Worker was a better counsellor/therapist than I am. There are so many rules and regulations in place, some of which are important given the responsibility index which you talk about, so much dogma, pathologizing that actually causes harm which goes against the code of ethics i pledged to - DO NO HARM! When i found out that the DSM was created so that pharma could sell their drugs, it all started to make sense to me. I found this information out through one of the text books I was working from during my studies. I realized that I did not want to work in a system that chooses to stigmatize human beings nor did I want to work in an incredibly failed system - the Canadian mental health system is no better than the one in the US., it is not a system that actually strives to support people, and plus I knew I would be banging my head against a wall continuously as I practice from the heart and lived experience. No amount of education or books can provide this kind of guidance and support. I am in the process of re-evaluating how I would like to work with clients, what kind/type of support do I wish to provide and how to do so. For me, the bottom line is that an individual cannot be broken down into separate parts and instead, looked at and regarded as a whole person and that this is how they should be regarded - body, mind and spirit - the trifecta of a human being.

[@fabe8947]

know it's not simple but Assuming to have adhered to the unethical market charges a bit by maintaining, High Value Clients and to have used some of it to fund the ones for whom therapy might not had been affordable and also to have used some of that fund to take the we'll deserving breaks once in a while to follow his own interests and pursuit, would probably have made him to be more acceptable and collaborative for his colleagues thus also to get their support for the good therapist he was and also to not only have left the profession, but instead to have had looked up to him by his peers and maybe later in his life maintain a position of training the upcoming ones and helping them with the necessary experience and mindset to hopefully create the necessary changes of the status quo of the entire MENTAL INDUSTRY for the good is what I'm looking at. Thoughts? Ty

[@nancybaumgartner6774]

I am an LCSW and have been in the field for 35 years - you are soooo right. I am in private practice for all the reasons you cited . I do not take insurance and am doing alright . Great video.

[@ikigai3232]

Nancy Baumgartner, I wish you the best!

[@p.alexlaflam-mcfall2975]

How do you make money if you don't take insurance?

[@cmhardin37]

@@p.alexlaflam-mcfall2975 how do you think?

[@p.alexlaflam-mcfall2975]

@@cmhardin37 self-pay???

[@maggie0285]

@@p.alexlaflam-mcfall2975 They charge outrageous rates and the client pays and in no time the financial strain becomes too much so they quit. Then the therapist takes on another client. They call this therapy.

[@andreiacastilho3601]

Dr Mackler, I had a narcissist husband who did a lot of damage in my life. The one thing that helped me re-gain my balance (after I left my husband, when I realized what he had been doing for years) was Transcendental Meditation. Good, righteous people like you are rare nowadays. I wish you the best.

[@fabe8947]

when did you find it? How long you've been practicing?

[@fabe8947]

@anthonycotter1493 will check em out.

[@chichioko1446]

so God.

[@AI-ch3if]

TM appears to be derived from Hinduism. I did yoga (also from Hinduism) years ago and had a demonic experience. As a Christian, I would stay away.

[@daned8260]

U sound like the only therapist thats actually human

[@jessickalush3305]

I dated my therapist, most are self interested robots.

[@klyanadkmorr]

HE IS A CLASSIC HUMAN SHAMAN! SPIRITUAL HEALER, in a soulless science system.

[@michaelkylow4411]

you dated your therapist.... what the hell.

[@jessickalush3305]

It happens. Clearly the process is a farce anyways.

[@zain4019]

jason parmelee If your therapist “dated” you, clearly they broke the moral guidelines behind being a therapist. They were an awful therapist anyway. And you were most likely a ridiculous client, to agree to dating your therapist. Do you need help or do you need a partner? Pick one.

[@tamaraslay]

I’m a quarter into this video and I already love it. I quit social work 5 months after graduating with my masters bc of the crazy unethical things I witnessed. Two years later, I re-entered the field and it’s the same old story. I’m 6 months away in terms of supervision hours to getting my LCSW and I really don’t want to. I’m just have lots of student loan debt and I’m not really sure what to do next regarding career. Pray for me please.🙏🏽

[@babyboylovesmusic]

I've been in it for some years. I'm preparing for career change.

[@kathyd6714]

Instead of quitting, be better and be the best . It’s not a waste , just be the diamond in the rust. You can’t just stop because you realize something is harder or that seeing that the people working in mental health don’t actually care. If this is your passion why don’t you work to not be like that? Almost every career is like that especially when it’s about helping others because of similar reasons that he says. It’s like being a teacher and the school system. It’s corrupt and there’s still horrible teachers but you still see a few that are amazing and they are the ones that give students hope.

[@KiwiWithAHatF8F]

How is your search going? Please update me!

[@kennethkotelo893]

Become a consultant and advise people on how to solve their mental problems and actually solve them for a fee

[@FlourishingMoss]

What did you end up doing? @Tamara Slay Im in a similar position right now..

[@itsmesteve1081]

Client: *breathes* Therapist: You have a breathing disorder.

[@realdavidpayne]

LMAO

[@saggytoes4079]

There is actually hyperventilation disorder

[@IAm-qf2xb]

@@saggytoes4079 Hysterical post and response, thanks!

[@Thebratzbaby]

Reminds me of doc mcstuffins

[@karendalsadik7119]

It's Me, Steve OMG a therapist told my dad that when he refused therapy for PTSD from Vietnam.

[@elaineroddy9958]

Amen! I, too, many years ago wanted to be a therapist, a "different" type of therapist than l had experienced. One who was "real" , authentically caring. I so agree with your assessment of our mental health"care" system.

[@priscilla3583]

I knew this for years and years, but no one would admit it!! Thank you for keeping it real!!

[@Albacore877]

Daniel…I am so VERY grateful for your honesty about the mental health field and your isolation, and how you were burned by the very people who are suppose to help others. You’ve saved me tons of time & money from NOT obtaining the 3000 supervised hours and stress of taking the EPPP to become a psychologist! Thank you thank you thank you! Best wishes in your future career endeavors!!!

[@bbbanks6912]

I've had such hugely positive experiences with various acupuncturists, perhaps that would be a satisfying field.

[@Albacore877]

@@bbbanks6912 thank you for EXCELLENT suggestion! I am checking various options in what I can do w/a PayD from a non-APA school and will be looking in to certificate in Drug & Addiction’s, occupational stress, hypnosis, and other areas that support those who have been harmed by others and need healing as well as nutrition and other wellness offering services. Best wishes!

[@fabe8947]

know it's not simple but Assuming to have adhered to the unethical market charges a bit by maintaining, High Value Clients and to have used some of it to fund the ones for whom therapy might not had been affordable and also to have used some of that fund to take the we'll deserving breaks once in a while to follow his own interests and pursuit, would probably have made him to be more acceptable and collaborative for his colleagues thus also to get their support for the good therapist he was and also to not only have left the profession, but instead to have had looked up to him by his peers and maybe later in his life maintain a position of training the upcoming ones and helping them with the necessary experience and mindset to hopefully create the necessary changes of the status quo of the entire MENTAL INDUSTRY for the good is what I'm looking at. Thoughts? Ty

[@sleepwillo3390]

You were absorbing all their energy. Being a therapist, I would imagine, one would have to be compassionate, but not identify/ personalize the experiences. Tough job hearing all those stories.

[@Thatsbannanas-d8c]

It’s damn near impossible to have some absorption especially if you know right from wrong and you have half a heart

[@GRagnarock]

I am an MD and I like your out of the box thought process. Responsible and caring people like you are only around to do good to others but I can tell how much of a burden this must have been on you. Thank you for your service these 10 years. Now keep enjoying life the way you like it.

[@SomethingWet]

Do you often work with patients who have diagnosed mental illness? Just curious

[@LSlade1207]

I am having church in my office screaming Amen...Preach.... Tell The Truth!!!!!!! Hallelujah!!!!!!!

[@toocooltanvi]

lmao best comment ever

[@Babyfacedblackjesus]

Amen

[@rainrain9501]

Sameee🤣Amen amen amen

[@anrojasm]

Sameeeee

[@Nappystorm]

I have been a therapist for 10 years and I relate to this video 100%. I don't even know how it came on my suggestions other than it's a sign that it's time to transition out.

[@wendy6698]

Same

[@saida817]

Oh wow, I came across this video because I was actually searching information to become a therapist, now I’m not sure what road to take

[@Shila799]

Before making a decision, listen to other therapists experiences. It doesn’t have to be a complete burnout. You can chose a specialty and environment you feel comfortable with. I’ve been a therapist for many years in different systems. It depends on you, your gifts and your chosen Journey. ❤😊

[@fabe8947]

know it's not simple but Assuming to have adhered to the unethical market charges a bit by maintaining, High Value Clients and to have used some of it to fund the ones for whom therapy might not had been affordable and also to have used some of that fund to take the we'll deserving breaks once in a while to follow his own interests and pursuit, would probably have made him to be more acceptable and collaborative for his colleagues thus also to get their support for the good therapist he was and also to not only have left the profession, but instead to have had looked up to him by his peers and maybe later in his life maintain a position of training the upcoming ones and helping them with the necessary experience and mindset to hopefully create the necessary changes of the status quo of the entire MENTAL INDUSTRY for the good is what I'm looking at. Thoughts?

[@farinshore8900]

I have so much respect for you Daniel. This was a courageous video to make and I appreciate both your courage and honesty greatly.

[@MsGroovalicious]

Just finishing grad school and realizing all of these things that this man is saying and living in agony in silence while I my colleagues just talk about licensing and finding work, and me wanting to work with horses. I'm doing it...getting out while the getting is good!

[@malindaallen718]

Look into hippotherapy, "horse therapy for people's. It's tangible help for people in distress. Programs serve veterans, disabled folks, acting-out teens, etc. "Miracles in Motion". Also, on the other side, there is equine massage, which is for the horses.

[@panchicorex]

Cool, this is the Edward Snowden for therapists. I learned more from this video than from any other systematic approaches. Key points from the video: 1) People mostly benefit from having someone to talk to about their problems. Drugs apparently aren't much help. 2) People with the most trauma are the ones that have the least finances to pay for treatments. 3) Most trauma is from early life. 4) The therapist has no support from colleagues and cannot talk openly. When someone mentions suicide its recommended to send the person straight to the hospital and to be medicated (Video author does not agree). 5) The responsibility is too much, hearing the horrors and being on the minds of the harmed person.

[@aquepaique]

Gracias por el resumen

[@brhea90]

There are complexities that you're not going to get here. Mentioning suicide alone is not enough to be involuntarily admitted. That's why they're asked specifically about their suicide plan to determine their risk.

[@Jcarp1989]

You are such a beautiful soul! You saved so many hearts while you were a therapist! You give me hope. I recently suffered severe burn out as a counselor because of the broken system. I felt so alone because my style of counseling is similar to yours but is widely unacceptable for some reason. I agree with everything you said. I hope the system will one day be broken down and rebuilt how it should be! Anyway, you are amazing! Never change! Keep spreading your love!❤

[@i-hungchen9318]

I am quitting being a family law lawyer this month and I can relate to the reasons listed in this video so much. Thank you for sharing your insight and analysis. I feel so comforted.

[@ladeek35]

Best wishes to you and your next chapter adventures.

[@spudbono5747]

As I was listening to him, the first thing that entered my mind was that it sounds like so many attorneys I know. I think there are similarities in the "helping people" vs. a perverse pay structure that is not tied to the benefit of the service to the client.

[@HipHopAn0n]

The more research I do, the more I realize I was INCREDIBLY lucky to find the right therapist on the first try.....he never once pressured me to take meds, he only gave me a diagnosis after a few years of seeing him, and as a result of my own curiosity and influence in that regard. He also didn't charge for the first session, and charges clients on a sliding scale so that he can help the people who need it the most. I think you and he would get along great.....you clearly both did your job for the right reasons. I have asked my therapist questions about how he sustains himself as a therapist, and he has said many of the same things you've said in this video (the pitfalls). He is very deliberate about how he keeps himself in the right psychological state to do his job - he has a very limited number of clients, he doesn't see clients before 12P.M, he has a very strong support structure of friends, etc. He also had a pretty damn good childhood so that probably helps. I really respect you Daniel! In fact, your interview with Stefan Molyneux several years back was one of the things that convinced me to get help......your insights were very valuable and continue to be.

[@Shasha8674]

Gluten may cause the issues that bring people to counselors etc. See my other comments. Best wishes.

[@zuljasinanaj429]

I l graduated with a masters in counseling in 21’ and it’s tragic how right on all this is. When all one wants to do is help people and the entire system is set to work against you leaves one hopeless and defeated. I haven’t even been licensed yet and I want out of the field.

[@michellecd4722]

Go to ILTC online and get coach training instead. I was a therapist in private practice for 10 yrs til health issues forced me to go on ssdi. I then trained with the Institute for Life Coach Training and ongoing coaching ceu's as they specialize in training people already working in the helping fields. Can assist others as a life coach w out all the baggage that comes w being a therapist. ❤

[@plutoplatters]

" LOL " I worked in a licensed position 30+ years ago now for a decade in a Psych hospital ... It was a joke then. The Doctors (Gods) and staff used to do nothing but laugh at patients ! true story.

[@zuljasinanaj429]

@@plutoplatters I believe it … unless you’re a doctor it’s a hopeless field to be in

[@susannahcyrus5086]

I’m in the same boat…. Experienced bad supervisors doing some pretty atrocious stuff, recently experienced my first Medicaid clawback and Not at all interested in pursuing licensure anymore.

[@fabe8947]

know it's not simple but Assuming to have adhered to the unethical market charges a bit by maintaining, High Value Clients and to have used some of it to fund the ones for whom therapy might not had been affordable and also to have used some of that fund to take the we'll deserving breaks once in a while to follow his own interests and pursuit, would probably have made him to be more acceptable and collaborative for his colleagues thus also to get their support for the good therapist he was and also to not only have left the profession, but instead to have had looked up to him by his peers and maybe later in his life maintain a position of training the upcoming ones and helping them with the necessary experience and mindset to hopefully create the necessary changes of the status quo of the entire MENTAL INDUSTRY for the good is what I'm looking at. Thoughts?

[@enough1494]

I am 66. Never could afford any therapy. Have had two brake downs in my life. One landed me the label of DID in 1998, which in 2019 became BPD. Isolation is my saving grace. But as I get older I am frightened by accidents and who will care for me when I am really old? Mental illness is so painful, so very painful!

[@Roni5]

you and i always affect our enviroment and the enviroment affects us. you're ultimately in charge of NOT your destiny but how you live through the shit you're given

[@spirituallysafe]

Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life; no-one comes to God except through Me (John 14:6). Jesus wants you to to cast all your cares on Him because He cares for you (1 Peter 5:7). Only by repenting of sin and trusting in Jesus to guide your life are you spiritually safe for all eternity. I encourage you to prayerfully read The Holy Bible.

[@enough1494]

@@spirituallysafe lord poor, Jesus! Jesus, watched for 5-6 years. I begged, I cried, I hid, I prayed….nothing. When ai told, I was called a liar and sent away. Jesus knew that a little girl would be hurt for years. Jesus knew that it would cause serious mental health issues. He did NOTHING for that little girl. Now she is grown. A widow, In 1998 she lost her husband and toddler son. Jesus knew the drunk pastor would kill them and seriously injure her. Jesus did nothing. She raised 4 kids and taught for years. Freewill ma’am…..FREEWILL. Jesus is nice and all but to me more like a spiritual teacher, or some cruel idea of god

[@enough1494]

@@spirituallysafe btw, I am not saying Jesus was or is negative. Just know he is not the way to anything we can not survive.

[@spirituallysafe]

@@enough1494 Jesus did nothing for you?! He died a torturous death on the cross as a sacrifice for all our sins. Turn to Him in trust before it is too late and be saved. He is not responsible for your trauma. Evil humans are.

[@TellitTay]

Wow this has been very enlightening. I’m currently in the MFT program for my masters and my heart is just not in it. I used to have the vision of wanting my own private practice you know being my own boss and healing others. I feel it’s too complicated, complex and I just feel overwhelmed, on a information overload and burnt out! I aspire to be a life coach. When you said you wanted freedom and felt free after quitting bring a therapist that really hit deep because I want to be free, express my creativity, be my own boss but also help others. You have definitely impacted my decision, thank you so much for sharing! 😊

[@anitaknight3915]

I feel the exact same way!!! My aspirations were the exact same ad yours, but it's all so draining & overwhelming. I want my freedom and creativity to inspire and help others heal in a different way too.

[@arianamooon]

Hows it going? What ya doin now?

[@NikLyons]

You are a diamond sir

[@alexikilikian248]

What a kind person he is. A true therapist with empathy who couldn't survive in a savage world and make a living.

[@pysq8]

...without selling his soul.

[@DELIVERANCE-TODAY]

I also don't agree with feeding people to the blood thirsty pharmaceutical industry.

[@francis5518]

As a psy student, I really appreciate your video, very refreshing and helps to keep the mind and the heart open and interconnected.

[@benvenutiabompietro]

Thank you soooo much for sharing this!!!! You are such a lovable person. I am sorry that you have received so little support and compassion from your colleagues, who should actually be doing better for professional reasons. The entire scene is, with a few exceptions, one big shame. Thanks again for being you and sharing this.

[@StevenZissimos]

I actually want to study to become a mental health recovery worker. But hearing about how corrupt the system is makes me feel troubled and uncertain. I want to help people, but then I would have to deal with shady business practices that don't have the client's best interests. It's so screwed up.

[@wendy6698]

I highly recommend a different field

[@auntymoi]

Oh brother, I feel you so hard w that vicarious trauma thing, and I work in physical therapy. I had a traumatic childhood. It gave me issues and gave me gifts; empathy being the greatest gift and yeah, pain, constant pain, its an issue. Ive broken down and wept with patients over their loss of health, wellness, the ability to walk. It makes you a superior clinician, but yes, ulcers hurt, dont they??! ❤❤❤

[@ChessDiagnostic]

This is so spot on. It's also why I quit working as a Mental Health RN. I tried my best for 5 years, but I'm not gonna be changing the system. Totally broken. Now I make art and play chess and have created my own living. Many healthcare pros are creative and the most creative often leave to make their own mark instead of participating in a broken system.

[@maxalberts2003]

I have a superb therapist and a primary physician who sees to all--and I mean ALL--my needs. I can get any drugs I want, including benzos. I will consider the system "broken" if and when that stops happening. I also get discount medical pot, which, by the way, DOES have plenty of THC in it. Get with the program, ChessDiagnostic.

[@mamuwaldevoudoupractitione3518]

I can only imagine what you went through as a psych RN. Just the prerequisites to get into the RN program is crazy as fuck . I initially wanted to become an RN and my scope would've been psych. But after doing more of my own research and investigation on that scope of practice, I didn't go through with any of that. I know that there are other ways to help people help themselves from a significant part of their living hell and artistry is certainly part of the formula. If you have an interest in doing so, do a search for folks whom have the exact same background and feelings. I think that there is a growing number of us around and looking to help change the system in our way.

[@DIVISIONINCISION]

A Psychiatric Nurse is NOT a Psychologist, LPC, LMFT or LCSW. You cannot do what a counselor can. You're limited and work through the medical model. HUGE difference in terms of treatment!

[@ChessDiagnostic]

DIVISIONINCISION Ya you're right. HUGE difference. 1 year as a psych RN is like 10 years as a psychologist. Psych RNs are locked in with huge groups of diverse psychiatric conditions AT THEIR WORST for 10 or 12 hours at a time. After they're done talking to a psychologist for about 30 minutes to an hour about what they perceive to be their issues, they might get hospitalized where a psych RN actually experiences and treats those issues. To make a statement such as yours shows you have zero understanding of the mental health field.

[@DIVISIONINCISION]

Even an LCDC with only a year in practice has more experience than a Psychiatric Nurse and the LCDC is the lowest licensure in Psychology. Don't compare a Nurse to a Counselor. Different scope of practice. Medical Model is not what Mental Health is about. You are out of your scope. I had more experience working as a Substance Abuse Counselor than a Nurse would ever have. Do you understand why? You don't diagnose. We do. You do what a Psychiatrist tells you to do. We can work independently and diagnose and treat. You are out of your scope, as I said before. Even a Practicum student in a Master's program is doing more than you do.

[@iris__and_rhizomes]

Wow. God bless you for your work and thank you for this video. I’ve been a medical student and a psych patient and I’ve come to basically the same conclusions as you. The mental health system is sick. It takes broken people and makes them more broken. And that’s unforgivable. It was refreshing to see that you didn’t fall into all the traps.

[@sarahdoanpeace3623]

I wanted to be a therapist my Whole life! But at 33, I quit a PhD Program and now I’m glad I’m not a therapist or psychologist. Thank you for the confirmation.

[@tiwiogunye]

I just finished one year of undergrad psychology. I feel so lost on what to do from here. Please help.

[@justinedse3314]

What are you doing now?

[@parus_1671]

I’ve put so much effort on becoming a psychologist and have almost completed my bachelor’s now. This path required massive changes and effort and time - I was a bit older than a typical undergrad when I started this degree. But my heart is not in it… People tell me I’d make a great psychologist, that I could be a trailblazer… Idk if it’s fear or what but it feels incredibly tiring to continue… I don’t want to give in to fear but I do want to keep my peace.

[@electricityofmind6300]

sounds like you do not know your preferences. Spending time away from people and a phone /tv in a safe environment, by yourself - is what I'd do to solve this. Ideally among nature but somewhere quiet and safe ​@@parus_1671

[@finefaseeh1972]

@@parus_1671me as well an older undegraduate and now im scared

[@meme3395]

It's a shame that we live in a world where money trumps genuine mental welbeing... Real healers are discouraged by the system. Daniel, if somebody finds you and asks respectfully to get help from you, and receives it, he/she'd be the luckiest person in the world. I watch your videos sometimes and it resonates with me, in a good way. I'm really happy that you chose to share yourself with us on youtube. All the best!

[@RenegadeTimes]

You are the FIRST therapist I have huge respect for. EXCELLENT !!! Most are so bloated by ego or doing piggy=back anti-depressants themselves or only taking mentally-lightly - disturbed...meaning a good ear could have sufficed actually.. What a great human being you are Daniel. I personally know 3 therapists. None are wonderful. Zero.You speak the truth.

[@lemostjoyousrenegade]

RenegadeTimes Well stated, mate. ✨👌🏽✨

[@watchgoose]

"most"? you have personally met and interviewed them and that's how you "know" this? I doubt it.

[@elleelle5847]

watchgoose Oh come on, don't pretend you don't know what he's talking about. You only have to speak to anyone who has ever seen a therapist to know that, indeed, most of them ARE that way.

[@kk-qy4sc]

see and support the woman joanna moncrief. Daniel is not alone or the first to speak out against legal system fraud.

[@crumpetclaire9690]

You are a brave beautiful soul.

[@trafficjon400]

BRAVE?

[@sugitox9864]

Daniel - Incredibly well expressed! Even though I was only ever an alternative therapist, attending to neurosis rather than psychosis, and carefully avoiding brushing up against the system, a moment still came when I felt the need for ME time. I had already travelled the world earlier in life, so that was not a pull. Exploration into spirituality was the adventure that excited me. I really hope that that longing explodes in you also, because the journey to spiritual awakening is an adventure that just keeps on giving! It is really why we are here. You already have all the qualities to be a serious seeker: You have a scientific, analytical mind, and yet you are rooted in your heart. How rare is that! And how beautiful. I wish you all the best on your life journey!

[@cakesinthecity]

Sugito x this was an interesting comment. I wouldn’t truly love to hear more, any recommendations on videos or books?

[@JoBlakeLisbon]

You find anything on your journey?

[@lasredchris]

@@cakesinthecity Carl Sagan. Alan watts. Eckhat Tolle - The power of now :)

[@thezzach]

This is exactly why I quit seeing therapists. I could see that they were the sick ones, not me. The sad irony of paying sick people who masquerade as healers to help me heal myself. I wasted decades of time and a lot of blood, sweat and tears on these lost fools. I started learning how to love myself again. I quickly remembered that one of my dreams is to learn how to play guitar. After a year of playing I’ve made a lot of progress, have my own KZbin Music channel, and it feels great. it’s really amazing to know that people like you, Daniel, are out there with such a similar perception as mine, which often feels lonely. How can i find more people like you?

[@genevievewalsh2007]

Oh my God you perfectly echoed so many things I've thought and felt about the psychiatric profession for years as a mental health patient

[@ceciliadevinev3230]

Your videos changed my life. Were it not for you, I wouldn't have jumped in (with both feet) to take on the role of therapist for myself. It took me a year to taper off psych meds and it's been just over a year since I've been free of them. So, whilst you might not be a therapist anymore in the day to day, your perspectives and documentation here on KZbin have helped me in profound ways. Healing Homes, The Open Paradigm Project and all things protesting psychiatry bolstered me on my journey. You have no idea, friend. Thank you.

[@Penelope416]

Cecilia Devine V what is your new perspective on a career you would enjoy now?

[@ernieblue5307]

This was so refreshing, to hear such personal, professional, and empirical truths. I think you did your time. I think you paid, in advance, any debt you may ever have to mankind. What you did was selfless, and immensely helpful to others in need, I’m sure. I hope you enjoy your freedom, and can find, and retain your peace of mind. Thanks for sharing your experience. 🙏😌

[@AHHHHHH107]

I had a therapist to recommend a medication after 30min in the first session. I was 13.

[@starisesun7692]

Omg!!!They like to get em young

[@starisesun7692]

@Doubleshot Because most therapist are Narcissist

[@Ms_ray2024]

Doubleshot I understand how you feel this reminds me of when my last therapist asked me why hadn’t I killed myself yet and I said to myself “Wow I really can’t believe he just asked me that”.

[@true5911]

@@starisesun7692 Unironically. Have you noticed the recent developments? Psychologists are beginning to "recognize narcissists" as people who challenge them directly, who grow angry with them, who question them, their field, or their expertise, or who attack them emotionally. So now a narcissist is someone who doesn't supplicate themselves to whatever the credentialed professional in the office chair thinks, even though most psychologists are untrained in recognizing the specific issue of narcissistic abuse syndrome and narcissistic abuse is in large part the destruction or suspended development of the self esteem of the abusee, including the ability to trust their own perceptions and have self worth, as well as the inculcation of dependency upon the narcissist for the sake of security of narcissistic supply! 300 DOLLARS AN HOUR PLEASE AND MAKE SURE YOU COME BACK TWICE PER WEEK FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS

[@manubishe]

Was it weed?