Doctor Sleep | Review

[@kariya56809]

Will Doctor Sleep Shine at the box office or it will be Overlooked...?

[@shazzakip2]

Or will it be slept on*

[@johnhowley3149]

Loved this

[@merlin9943]

I see what you did there, Kariya.

[@basileldho9846]

You just fucked up the good sleep of an article writer at Deadline.

[@maxpishny9070]

@@shazzakip2 I dont think you understood...

[@HashiraTengen]

I ❤ Dan. "I love each version in it's own way." Nobody ever says they love the mini series. He gets me.

[@johnsonjohnson3261]

I'm sure Stephen King loves it.

[@the7percentsolution]

I definitely recall liking the mini series quite a bit because it was way more supernatural. But I also remember that kid who plays Danny being incredibly annoying.

[@MariaVosa]

@@the7percentsolution Yes the biggest problem for me was that the kid was such a Central Casting Kid Actor. Not his fault, but he was not a good match for this story, he should have done soaps or something.

[@rlfstr]

Kissing, kissing, that's what I've been missing

[@kristiecobb1652]

I liked it...it was closer to the book. Each to his own, as they say.

[@joeymerk4302]

My favorite reviewers on KZbin..

[@gjin141]

I definitely take their reviews very seriously

[@ianboswell]

neither read the book ughhhhh!

[@DrewLorenz]

"Mike Flannigan directs the ShCrap out of this movie" sickkkkkk

[@FN64Productions]

This Roth lady is cool you guys should invite her on more often

[@AlBerto-sm2ob]

I adored this movie. I was totally blown away by how invested I became in this movie. It's one of my fave movies this year. Its smart, slow burn and the SOUND DESIGN. Best of the year 🤯🤯🤯☠☠😊😱😱🤯❤❤

[@DisasterArtist1997]

best duo on the internet Dan Murrel and Roth Cornett

[@NolanDean]

As a major fan of the source material, this movie hit everything I wanted from a Doctor Sleep adaptation and improved upon what I disliked about The Shining adaptation, that movie feels full of cold cynicism whereas the book is a Shakespearean ghost tragedy, Flanagan somehow toes the line between both with characters and moments I’m never gonna forget. Probably the best King adaptation of modern day.

[@rade5689]

OMG, this is the worst movie i ve ever watched, you are sick

[@AlexTimeExpress]

They do end up back at The Overlook in the book, but it's technically no longer the Outlook

[@radagussy]

Is it weird that I sat through this whole review even though I have no intent of seeing this movie but am just here to listen to Dan and Roth talk about something 😂

[@RossAllaire]

Same.

[@kristopherschermerhorn998]

You should really give Doctor Sleep a chance. In parts it is downright mind blowing (and is an amazing film).

[@_jolie_]

me with most reviews

[@bigneon_glitter]

Doctor Sleep is a real surprise. One of the best films of the year. Can be ranked with Misery & Dead Zone.

[@JerodimusPrime]

You really should check it out, it's more of a thriller than horror but it's actually one of the best films I've seen all year. Definitely worth watching.

[@ianlack4417]

Roth’s back! 😁

[@colewissinger7573]

I would love a spoiler review of this especially since Dan seems to bring so much knowledge from the book and lore. I just got back from watching this and I even had a tough time keeping track of some of the stuff y'all were referencing because of keeping it vague and avoiding spoilers. Which is good. But I'd love to hear your uncensored analysis.

[@princeapoopoo5787]

Oh damn, I was so worried this wasn't gonna be a good film but y'all like it. Oh damn I'm so ready. Kubrick's film is one of my favourites.

[@mjw1111]

Get the book. Awesome! Also yes they go to where the Overlook was. In the book it burns down.

[@caitlin228]

I'm happy you both liked the movie. Having just read The Shining and Doctor Sleep for the first time, I couldn't separate my view of the movie from the novels. The third act of Doctor Sleep is more Kubrick's Book Accurate Shining and less Doctor Sleep novel and it had some of parts of the movie The Ewan McGregor scene you referenced is my favorite part of the movie.

[@travisspazz1624]

I'm sorry sir, I'm afraid you've mistaken me for someone else.

[@MrKangorilla]

The recast Halloran was amazing. So damn good. We did basically go on a guided tour of the overlook for the third act but it felt earned at least. It almost felt like an action movie at some points which may have been more of a detriment if I didn't buy the character motivations as much as I did. Great great movie. Pulled it off like blade runner 2049

[@bigneon_glitter]

Carl Lumbly deserves a Supporting Oscar nom. Amazing transformation.

[@dodgyb2001]

I thought it was great, a touch long, but the ideas were fascinating, and everything was well done. Kate the Hat was amazing. Spoilers> My biggest problem was the hunters didn't feel as threatening after Abra kicked Kate's arse. I felt she should have struggle more, barely escaping, to add more tension later on. Danny said he didn't think they could take Kate, but Abra basically did it first try, not even knowing what she was doing. I did wonder if Abra would become the bad guy at the end, as she seemed quite unaffected by some of the things she did. Overall, I enjoyed it, it was a worthy sequel, but I think it could have been even better.

[@dodgyb2001]

@@bigneon_glitter He was incredible. My companion wasn't sure if it was the same guy (she'd only seen the Shining a couple of times, and didn't know who Scatman was). I did think it would have been awesome if they could have got Jack Nicholson to ADR his character's lines, as Henry Thomas' voice just lacked a little something. Still, they did a great job of getting replacements for the Shining's cast.

[@josephvanderbosch]

Dan, it would be great to hear your thoughts on the book if you end up reading it.

[@waitssharpe7491]

I seriously recommend the book Doctor Sleep it’s honestly amazing

[@scaryflickchick74]

I can't believe I haven't read it yet. I was afraid it wouldn't compare to the Shining. But I'm definitely gonna get it this week!

[@mrpickmanb]

Off topic.. where did the Terminator: Dark Fate review go?

[@MariaVosa]

5 minutes in to this review Dan has sold me on this movie 100%

[@mthcomics4002]

AH!!!! I didn’t know Zahn was in this!!! That guy is so underrated as an actor!

[@the7percentsolution]

This review along with Chris Stuckmann's has sold me on going to see this movie. I was kind of on the fence at first but it sounds amazing! I'll also be seeing The Lighthouse on Sunday. I'm very excited for that :) I will not, however, be seeing Terminator Dark Fate. To hell with that movie.

[@danlayson9623]

I just finished watching Doctor Sleep. Loved it. Ive read the novel and the movie ends on a different note. But its more of what King wanted the end of Kubrick's Shining movie to be. Dont watch Dark Fate. Its basically T1 and T2 storyline. It wanted to use the past movies to create a fresh storyline. But its not fresh! Same ol thing. Doctor Sleep gets it right. You can hearken back to an original classic. But dont have the same storyline. Just use bits and pieces here and there.

[@danlayson9623]

The Lighthouse was very out there! Lol. Weird but entertaining. Descent into pure madness. Not a film for everyone.

[@Thewhitequeen0]

I feel like people constantly misunderstand King when it comes to what issues he had with the Shining, but what's funny is that this movie (based on his words) delivers on what he felt Kubrick's Shining didn't, which is the emotion. When you look past the spectacle of 'psychics vs psychic vampires in a haunted house', there's actually a lot of emotional moments in the movie, especially when it comes to Danny's relationships with his parents. I even teared up near the end due to a certain scene he had with Wendy.

[@andreserickson6963]

Dan I’m so relieved that you liked it 😂 I saw it last night and was very surprised at how much I liked it. I may have even liked it better than the book, which is a very rare thing haha. Also I do believe they visit the Overlook at the end of the book, but they don’t spend nearly as much time there, if I recall correctly.

[@luketheirishteen]

Been waiting for this review for months!! Can’t wait for Dan and Roth’s review any longer!

[@Abbieabma]

In the book they do go back to the location of the overlook hotel...

[@lonestranger828]

In the book Shining Jack was conflicted and driven to kill his family against his will. Movie Jack just went batshit crazy. In the Book Doctor Sleep Jack's spirit perhaps helped Danny at the very end.

[@travisspazz1624]

Saw an early screening, and everything Dan said is correct!! It's a perfect marriage between King and Kubrick. Like Blade Runner 2049, it's a sequel to an early 80s classic that honors the original while telling it's own story.

[@ssjenforcer191191191]

Dan, seriously, read the book, as well. I read The Shining and Doctor Sleep back to back, and the sequel compliments the first book so well. The antagonists are fleshed out a lot, and they are very terrifying as villains. I personally think that the book Doctor Sleep is even better than The Shining (if The Shining is The Terminator, then Doctor Sleep is Terminator 2), and it explores the shining much more and gives it a good amount of lore.

[@HelloMisterJAMWAH]

I have/had the same worries about this movie but you've convinced me to see it. You two are the reviewers I align with the most, you have a real focus on character, themes, story, substance and nuance and that's the stuff I love in movies.

[@HelloMisterJAMWAH]

Ahhh nooooo, I really didn't enjoy it. Fair play to all involved, they did technically make a very good film but there's no getting around the fact that I can't abide Stephen King's writing. The only reason I like The Shining is because Kubrick threw much of it out. Really wanted to like it too.

[@ltspeaks315]

Is there any better movie content than when D&R review a movie? I dont always agree but they have such a high acumen for expressing the exact reasons why the feel a certain way about different aspects of a film. Love it. You guys are the best.

[@HashiraTengen]

I loved this movie. I purposely didn't read Doctor Sleep so I could go in blind. I was BLOWN AWAY by this movie. At two in a half hours... the movie was too short! I didnt want it to end! I cant stress enough how much I LOVED this movie!

[@travisspazz1624]

Same. I was so into so many character dynamics and details I'd gladly watch a 4 hour cut!!

[@libbybarr4844]

Just clicked off Joe, Billy and Dan to watch this review. Excited to see this next week. Will hide behind my fingers a fair bit I reckon.

[@Gabrielito941]

The gold room scene is so good. The camera angle makes it so believable. Ewan knocked it out. I think I love this movie more than Kubricks. I felt so affected by the many things these characters go through and also some revisit horrible traumas. Flanagan really makes you feel sad for characters who are in a horror setting.

[@zemikia]

It is good to hear that rose the hat is good. When I was reading the book I thought that need to nail this character for the movie.

[@joshualetzgig5534]

Nothing I love more than these two together

[@DukeBaWue]

As someone who briefly worked on that movie, I am very happy that you liked it. It was a challenging ride to get it right :)

[@imaadahere]

So glad I saw this in the cinema; I was so taken in by the movie that in the 3rd act I was huddled in my seat feeling the cold of the snow and a decades empty hotel.

[@barbara832001]

I guess Jacob Tremblay was cast in this because he made Before I Wake, that Mike Flanagan directed, as one of his first roles.

[@hurler1348]

where did your terminator dark fate review go? I watched some of it before I saw the movie, now that I have seen the movie I want to finish it, but I can't find it anywhere! plz help!

[@myketh1196]

Obi-wan with psychic powers? He’ll be fine

[@benjaminshevinky]

There is a whole thing in the book about Danny locking up his ghosts in a box, and the end when they return to where the overlook was he releases them back out, and play an integral part to the outcome.

[@apocalypseburger3298]

Benjamin Shevinky yeah what’s your point

[@MrJWINER]

These are the best reviews, no spoilers and lots of analysis

[@Goblin_Hands]

I wonder what would have happened if (spoilers) Danny drank the Whiskey. Kinda wanted to see him embody Jack and take over...even though he basically did. Somehow...I think him becoming so was unearned though. They just had a few too many cameos too many times at the end imo. Less is more. And him saying "Shine on" was not just cheesy but kinda dumb. Why would she intentionally find others when they are most likely dangerous? She should just live her life out peacefully and smart...and become the ultimate lawyer or something. I also disagree with the de-aging filter. I thought Carrie Fisher and Tarkin looked spot on, and I thought Will Smith did in Gemini Man trailers (gotta watch next), and Sarah/John Connor in Terminator Dark Fate, even though I wasn't convinced the new "John Connor" was the new savior simply by saying, "we need to fight back" in one flashfoward scene-Come on! They didn't even need to change Skynet since that was simply one possible future, but they did so just so the new lead can annoy us with her banther.

[@TripleTSingt]

in the book, the Overlook burns completely to the ground and there is some camping ground there now, where they go in the finale of Doctor Sleep. They explain that the spirits are still there, as it was not actually the hotel that was haunted. It makes sense to have the movie back at the hotel, since it puts more emphasis on the past traumas he needs to address.

[@youssefesmail9320]

My absoulte favourite reviewers.

[@illuminotme4261]

Love the Shining! The movie and book are phenomenal. I've read that book at least ten times and it never gets old. Have not read Dr.Sleep but watched the movie last night. I was expecting disappointment but have to say It is excellent. Thought it ironic the overlook burned down in the first book and in the movies it burns down in Dr. Sleep. I was so glad to see the boiler room in the movie.

[@joshstephens9513]

I am so relieved to see this interview. I'm a giant Stephen King fan, AND a Kubrick fan. So I was VERY worried about this. Glad to hear they nailed it. :) Also, Dan... WATCH WEST WORLD, BRO!!!!

[@celicynd]

If you've read Doctor Sleep, they absolutely nailed the novel. I loved the movie. Other than the third act, which obviously has to be changed, it's about as close to the book as you could get... they excised a few of the plot elements for simplicity (like the measles infecting the True Knot), but it was so good. I actually wish it was 30 minutes longer to further expand on the True Knot, but I know that's just as a fan of the book... it would be hard for a non-reader to sit through the extra material, as the movie is already long.

[@hesprus]

The novel's (Doctor Sleep) penultimate scene takes place at the ruins of the Overlook, which was destroyed in King's novel (The Shining). In this case Doctor Sleep is better than the book..

[@dmfuerte]

10 points to Dan for the Quantum Leap reference!

[@beepopp7306]

I saw it last night and loved the story so much. I loved the directing. But I was taken out a bit at the look a likes. I understand they had to be there but it was weird for me. Over all, I loved this movie.

[@videocassette1986]

In the book they go to the Overlook site, where the hotel once was, and there the ghost play a role to help Dan, so the visual choice in the movie was a great change. I think he improved the book’s ending, the same way Kubrick did.

[@KnowYourMarvelNews]

Very excited to see this film on Monday, just saw Knives Out Wednesday and loved it. Lots of good films coming out

[@thebortthe]

Where did Fandom's Dark Fate review go? Or am I missing something?

[@gjin141]

Great review. The shocking scene that you're referring to about the cult activity left tears in my eyes and I felt physically sick. It was brutal but a necessary plot device. Great acting by all. It was a slow burn but it steadily improved into the third act

[@ieatgremlins]

Roth is back, baby! 🙌🏻

[@antoineroth2555]

I just saw the movie and I loved. Just wanted to say about the "member this" aspect of the 3rd act, I agree that he goes heavy on the call backs but since the movie is 2h30 long and considering all that came before I think it is deserved. We basically had a full, original and satisfying movie before that and the return to the hotel does feel appropriately weighty and meaningful because of the journey that preceded it. So I must say I really enjoyed all the call-backs because I was so invested in the story and the characters.

[@moviemattluman1675]

Good to hear. Gonna be hard to top “The Lighthouse”. 🤘

[@ShazammtheProducer]

I just seen Doctor sleep OMG it was super dope

[@matthewbertram4312]

The Overlook and the ghosts from it feature very heavily in the book. But the big detraction is that the Overlook doesn't actually exist anymore in the book. It was leveled and there's like a campground on it. In the book they have to go back to where the hotel used to be, though. So it's just a matter of the hotel still standing that's the main difference.

[@MrRomanweb]

Well, the Overlook was burned down in the original novel. In Dr. Sleep, there's a campground inhabited by the True Knot that's built on what used to be the Overlook. And that's where the final act takes place in the book. So in way, they do go back to the Overlook as its portrayed in the film Dr. Sleep.

[@leadsin99er]

I thought the 3rd act could have been a stronger impact had I not seen Ready Player One 1 before, where Spielberg also did a Shining tribute in one of the scenes, also done very well.

[@conorfurlong]

The disturbing scene you’re talking about is truly one of, if not the, most horrific scenes I’ve ever seen in a cinema. I had a visceral reaction to want the scene to stop immediately, so awful was it to watch.

[@skater0224]

More disturbing than Suspiria’s human pretzel scene ?

[@skater0224]

HPMcQueen the heck lol

[@gjin141]

I just watched it. You're so right, it was incredibly disturbing

[@LoganBluth]

Finally just saw Doctor Sleep and NOW I get what Dan was talking about with the third act paying tribute to things in The (BOOK) Shining that were missing from The (MOVIE) Shining. Rewatching this review after seeing the movie, and seeing Roth say the first half pays tribute to the book while the second half pays tribute to Kubrick's film I was thinking "What movie were you watching...?" The third act of Doctor Sleep is a fantastic homage to the themes and feelings Stephen King was trying to convey in the book that Stanley Kubrick completely left out of his movie. I'm with Dan, as a fan of The Shining, both the book AND the movie, I REALLY enjoyed Doctor Sleep. 😁

[@dravenuk]

In Mike Flanagan I trust. Opens here in the UK this weekend and seeing it Sunday hopefully.

[@egoborder3203]

I like Dan's reviews, but I really love these review discussions, especially with Roth

[@ChaneloAdventures]

Yes!! When i saw Jacob Tremblay I thought "oh he has got to have a powerful scene coming up" and then THAT happened

[@irvinreyes669]

Fun drinking game: Drink a shot every time they say the word Kubrik or Kubrik’s film.

[@blurelic4]

I really enjoyed this film (saw it last night). I love when Roth and Dan review films. Carl Lumbly looks very much like Scatman Crothers. And yes, that Iowa death scene was brutal.

[@Loverguy66]

Best duo EVER!!! Can’t wait to check it out!

[@bigneon_glitter]

Expected nothing from Doctor Sleep after the lame IT movies. Blown away. A proper & worthy sequel. One of the best films of the year & best King adaptations. Pleasant surprise.

[@77163]

I personally prefer Dan as a reviewer over Roth as he's able to consistently remain objective and unbiased when talking about a film. Roth sometimes states opinion as fact whereas Dan is always careful to reiterate that it's his personal opinion which inevitably may differ from others. I think it's probably just an issue with language usage.

[@MaximusR93]

The fact that they didn’t shy away from the true knot’s insatiable hunger ( baseball kid) did the movie a great favor

[@kristiecobb1652]

The overlook exploded in the book - but as Jason Todd said, they go to the "remains" of the Overlook in the book. That's where the climax takes place.

[@jennifersixx3740]

The book is one of my favorites. Loved Kubrick’s film. This movie is amazing.

[@jonathanortega753]

I've never read doctor sleep but I do watched Kubrick's The Shining all the time and read the novel version which I totally understand on the novel and I'm thrilled to see it in theaters.

[@jasontodd9]

In the book they go to where the Overlook used to be. It burned down.

[@babaduke3298]

Silly Stephen got his Shining wish.

[@juliusallen365]

What happened to the Terminator review?

[@j.tmarcil5774]

Yes they do go back to the overlook in the book, However it burned down so it's where or almost where it stood....

[@joshdrr]

I've seen it as well and totally agree with their take. It really sucks you in, in a way that few movies do these days, has great characters and arcs, and actually adds emotional depth to the characters from The Shining movie in a way that feels natural. The villains were extremely interesting: almost like Pennywise, but instead of an alien demon who hunts due to his nature, they were developed human characters who actually CHOOSE to be like Pennywise, which I found much scarier. The pacing might be a bit slow for some, but it's a sequel to the Shining, so you should know what you're getting into. Definitely an extremely well-crafted movie on many different levels.

[@neondemon9767]

Please talk about ‘the King’ on Netflix when ya’ll get back from the weekend! Really excited to hear what you guys thought 👻💖

[@earoothadtargaryen1986]

You two are my reviewers 😭❤️

[@eduardosantillan3048]

Dan liked it :0 okay, I’m sold on this movie

[@Neat0_o]

Dan you just reviewed the shit out of this movie. I’m really looking forward to seeing it. All of mike Flanagans movies have been quality. It’s also neat he edits his own films most of the time.

[@jamesduffy7549]

I usually hate "fan service goosebumps" shit but there was one scene in this that utterly got me.

[@ianboswell]

In the novel they go to the overlook

[@TheSubZer0HEro]

I really enjoyed this I was surprised about the score though. It by no means is bad but didn’t for me build the tension the score provides in the shinning.

[@marikotrue3488]

I have not read either The Shining or Doctor Sleep. I just watched Doctor Sleep at a theater. It was a very entertaining, scary but still very few jump scares. My cat has learned how to scare me (am not telling how), so when I spend money on a movie and popcorn I would prefer more thought go into it than that of a wacky cat. The acting, writing, cinematography, even CGI, everything is all extremely watchable. The movie did not seem like a 2 hour 33 minute movie, everything flowed quickly, every conversation interesting.

[@aldwg]

100% with Roth on this one. Great movie that takes a step back once they get to The Overlook

[@Abv39]

Rose the hat steals the show. Outstanding movie

[@borgtennis]

You said it bro! Finally a movie that advances in a new direction with new characters but not at the detriment of the old ones à la "The Last Jedi" and the last Terminator. Danny and Abra's relationship is cool. Danny does have a big role to play throughout! I do think though the final showdown could have been bigger because everything leading up to it is so intense and well thought out. SPOILERS !!!! I would have let more characters from the True Knot survive to the end to balance Finale at the :Overlook.

[@elikabo]

This is a worthy sequel. It expanded on the first film while doing something completely different, reminded me of Unbreakable a little bit.

[@Alucard2091]

Finally someone shares my opinion. Doctor Sleep does feel like "an unintentional tie-in to Eastrail 177 Trilogy"

[@jimr8956]

The overlook is gone in the book but the spot that it was built on is used by the true knot as their campground while they find there next victim

[@larryg6865]

The Shining is a four star movie. Doctor Sleep is a three star movie. Love them both.

[@RipleyE-we1hj]

7:59: The main reason this movie will be hated by the masses. Most of them will be feeling bored. 🤦🙄

[@patricksullivan6988]

Are you going to review The Lighthouse?

[@maxmustermann2197]

Wheres your Terminator Dark Fate review?

[@kristiecobb1652]

Well, I just saw Dr Sleep and my reaction was pretty much the same as Roth's and Dan's - the first 2 hours were riveting but the last 30 minutes were a little jarring....that part where they had to marry the disparities between the original book and the Kubrick movie. Not an easy feat but I think, given the circumstances they did pretty well. Overall, I really liked it!

[@KaNCeRmm4life]

I 100% agree on the no cartoon Shelly, Danny and Scatman, but they NEEDED to get whoever did the de-aging from the beginning of Terminator Dark Fate to do Jack and pay jack whatever it took to get him cause its that distracting that i can only give it a 9 where if it were him id go full 10

[@Cotsos88]

Big fan of The Shining (movie) I wasn't really interested in this, propably would catch it on streaming, but if Dan recommends it, I'm going opening night.

[@seminoleseth5718]

This is my first time watching, but I absolutely love that hat! 🪓🔥