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Chapters 0:00 - Intro 5:50 - How to know if a shoe's plate & geometry lines up with your foot 18:56 - Can an after-market footbed increase shoe stiffness like a carbon plate? 25:29 - Finding carbon-plated shoes when you have Morton's neuroma 33:06 - Are we sure that the energy return of superfoams vs. EVA is what makes supershoes faster? 42:28 - Mizuno Neo Vista review 56:09 - Wrap-up

[@michaelcaricoo]

Really solid episode, thanks Andrea and Nate for digging in so much

[@dariusjs7]

Agree, this was such an informative episode

[@philipwood7673]

I would really appreciate if you could pull together a single video covering all the main questions about supershoes. I know you've covered most, if not all, of them in previous podcasts, so maybe this would just be a case of splicing together old sections of previous episodes. Off the top of my head, the main questions would be the likes of: how a supershoe works (or our best understanding at this moment in time - is it the plate, is it the foam etc.); are they beneficial for everyone; how to find the right shoe(s) for you; how to confidently identify if you respond to supershoes; how long they last/how to tell when the magic has gone; transitioning into a supershoe (either if you've never worn them before or if you're now realising you've been wearing the wrong designs)... there's probably more which I will kick myself for not including almost as soon as I hit 'Comment'...!

[@tkwasik]

People fixation on words "carbon" next to shoe name - is the only reason companies get away with adding plates to every shoe in the line as a means to charge more

[@cristian-adrianfrasineanu9855]

We're entering the shoe mod era 😂 you never know if the runner next to you has replaced the carbon plate with some AM titanium shit

[@jameswestmoreland9717]

Shoe stiffness vs less stiff with footbed: the runner could alternate stiff shoe with another, less stiff shoe.

[@GTE_Channel]

38:20 is there any actual science to support the claim that old racing flats gave equal performance to everyone? I have a hard time believing this is the case. Your body does not know carbon or peba, down the line you get more efficient if a shoe fits your mrchanics, so I would argue this applies to any type of shoe.

[@jameswestmoreland9717]

Nate: a few yearss ago my wife did a two day century event, a century each day. Anyway, a guy showed up on his eliptigo and did both centuries. ! A new challenge for you.

[@kit7579]

I think the mistake of only talking about the carbon plate for efficiency lies on the fact many record times on track were done with just a pair of track spike with minimum foam back in the days.

[@karlbratby4349]

Fascinating 🎉 is it a possibility that pain behind the toes at front of ball of foot can be caused by very stiff plated shoes, stoniest shoes I have purchased recently mainly the hoka skyward x each time I run in them I get pain in that area, don’t think it is fat pad bruising but it’s possible but maybe to far forward. I also bought the adidas prime x strung 2 at same time and loathed to run in them as they are an even stiffer shoe? Not had these issues previous in all other shoes just since using really stiff plated shoe like the skyward x. Thank you for great content

[@tex287]

I’m torn between the neo vista and the ASICS superblast 2 for my first marathon in September. I might just have to flip a coin at this point!

[@nicholas5396]

If the Neo Vista is like the SC Trainer v1 I might have to order one. Been waiting for something to replace it since New Balance didn't want to keep it real.

[@Feanaro5503]

What was the 5K time? 👀

[@PoetWithPace]

Do physical therapists study engineering?

[@dkmchui]

Since Andrea likes it, it is a buy.

[@DoctorsofRunning]

This is the way

[@mochidomo]

In addition to the heart rate strap comment, I wonder if adding on the GCT balance, cadence, stride length, or vertical ratio data would be more sufficient in garnering which shoe is more efficient? I understand that there are many many factors not accounted for on a regular training run between two shoes, but I imagine if his vertical ratio for one shoe vs the other shoes showed a large difference, enough for him to notice during the run AND in the data, it surely should be enough to solidify his suspicions.