Does THIS Solve Canon R5II Overheating? CF-R20EP Cooling Battery Grip Reviewed

[@HakonBroderLund]

Disappointing. From what I understand it is partly due that it is hard to cool a floating sensor (IBIS). But other companies can do it, so why not Canon?! How solid is the grip. Any play between the grip and the camera?

[@jklbd4815]

Just want it to be compared with Nikon z8 for video also the video AF

[@MarvinBoydCo]

Z8 still stomps R5II especially if you shoot mostly raw which I do and the Z8 has far more recording options than the R5II

[@UrbanAnimeLounge]

A $4500 overheating magnet is crazy You need the cooling grip and USB c power to make it keep up. its really a let down, in the grand scheme of things, and that problem with the door turning the cam off is ... . Imma skip, has to be set up like a tower of power to give its mundane performance

[@learningcameras]

What will be interesting is Canon has a habit of quietly addressing these things via firmware as the months go by so it will be interesting to see if this gets some of those improvements like the original R5 did

[@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212]

@@learningcamerasyea but this is the 2nd version. They should have had the overheating issue resolved.

[@learningcameras]

@@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212 Not going to disagree. Panasonic figured it out with the S5II line, Nikon's Z8 handled heat really well, but Sony also struggles a bit with it's mirrorless non-FX lines outdoors but indoors, Sony has pretty much solved overheating

[@MODESTYXO205]

If you purchased a camera today for a solo creator who short films, doc work, and travel content, would you choose a Sony Fx3, Canon R5 mark2, or Sony zve-1 any other suggestions? Keep up the good work

[@learningcameras]

I would pick the FX3 if it was strictly for video. The Panasonic S5IIX might be choice if you want something cheaper and it's a bit more usable as a photo camera too. But the best hybrid photo/video camera is the Canon R5II and Nikon Z8 hands down with the Z8 winning on specs and the R5II being slightly better in the field

[@gavthane]

You’re choosing between dedicated cinema cameras (FX3) and a hybrid camera (R5ii)… I’d more likely choose between the FX3 and R5C/C80.

[@takashik.7602]

from japan. In JPN.almost no review. Thanks for this movie!!

[@wadesweeney2200]

Those new batteries greatly improved the R5C record times, plus you can hot swap the battery. would like to see you do an R5C vs R5mkii comparison if you could.

[@learningcameras]

I mean my guess is the R5C will get replaced next year but even though it's the last generation, it still has a few specs better than the R5II like 4k60 oversampled

[@russellmm]

@@learningcameras no chance they were going to release 4K60 over-sampled on this due to the overheating problems they already knew they had. The PR on it would have been horrendous. With that said, I suspect they will release it at some point in the future when the focus will be on getting the feature as opposed to the overheating the feature adds.

[@Jawad.1]

This grip looks like a cheap after thought from Canon. The absolute answer is the already years-old Nikon Z9: Everthing in one body. Built-in huge battery manufactured specially for the particular camera, No overheating, that also without a Fan. Z9, IMO, is an absolutely brilliantly designed camera body...!!!

[@learningcameras]

Can't disagree with that

[@Eightpspi]

No r5 2 for me. This seals the deal for me. Ill deal with my 30 min record limit. My r5 doesnt overheat!

[@mikem6796]

Does the R5 overheat in 4k 60? Did they fix the over heating issues?

[@Eightpspi]

@@mikem6796i dont shoot 4k 60 for periods longer than 5 mins at a time. I shoot wedding receptions in 4k 60 & no overheating

[@spritual_enlightenment]

Thanks for this video. R5II may improve a lot after firmware update later.

[@learningcameras]

@@spritual_enlightenment definitely hoping so. The R5II is an amazing camera

[@Sam-mc2dk]

Did you test the A1 at the same time? If so, how did the A1 do?

[@armandsaavedra5577]

what were the video settings you had when recording?

[@Kenkichi24]

Heard if you choose “fine” it will overheat fast but other settings are fine. He definitely should’ve mention it.

[@armandsaavedra5577]

@@Kenkichi24 I did a test recording with my R5ii in Canon 709 8 bit with 4K-D fine at 24fps and I was surprised to see the camera recorded the full length of both my batteries in my cooling grip with no overheating warning. granted I had the fan going at high speed, but that was rather promising for a good amount of use cases.

[@gavthane]

@@armandsaavedra5577but most people aren’t shooting in 8bit with this camera. Most people are wanting the vastly superior colors associated with 10bit.

[@KLOCinematics]

Wait, they made an R5 II and it STILL overheats??? LMAO

[@learningcameras]

It's better than the R5 was at launch which is good but for whatever reason it falls short of where the R5 is today after firmware updates and the Nikon Z8. The Sony A7RV overheats pretty easily too but that's more of a photo camera so I doubt there are many people using it as a dedicated video camera or hybrid camera

[@ninjaman58]

they took 'DIY Perks' recommendations on the EOS R5

[@RockyColaFizz]

Looks like 6-9 months waiting for firmware updates to get us back to current R5 levels. Canon is so conservative with this stuff.

[@learningcameras]

Yeah, it was interesting to see the original R5 go from almost unusable for long recordings to one of the best

[@adnmultimedia]

So Canon is charging a premium, but can’t figure out overheating and they’ve had four years to do so? Meanwhile, the competition is like “hold my beer” lol Sony and Nikon have also had the same battery in their camera since what like 2018 with added features and stack sensors shooting 8K and 4k modes.

[@learningcameras]

Definitely quite a few things it could be...maybe Canon's processor just puts out more heat, maybe the codec is less efficient, maybe the camera doesn't have ample cooling, maybe the battery is getting pushed more...who knows. The camera can record in the heat with this grip at least, it's just going to be a bit louder while doing it since the fan needs to be set to high. And keep in mind this test was with 8k oversampled so there are plenty of other modes that don't overheat, they just don't have the same level of detail

[@kifley19]

I'll stick with my R6 II and get another R6 II. No overheating in 4k 24 which is oversampled.

[@learningcameras]

The R6II is great...the best hybrid camera under $3500 by far

[@TW-iu9zy]

… well, since I using the Sony FX 3 and FX 30 overheating is a issue of the past. 😏 Even my a9 III has no major problems. Interesting to see, that Canon isn’t able to learn. 🤔

[@learningcameras]

I figured with this battery grip, it could be equal to the FX3 but it isn't quite if you're in hot outside environments. Keep in mind Sony has it easier with the FX3 by putting a non-oversampled 12MP sensor in the camera. The Canon R5II how I tested it was oversampled 8k so MUCH more processor intensive and much more detail than the FX3 can achieve

[@77dris]

Well, Canon did learn. He said the original R5 now actually lasts longer and does better with overheating than the best competition from Sony and Nikon. Canon will fix this too with some firmware updates. Though, to be fair, my friend has an R5 II and it never overheats or even gives a warning. He said it's better than his original R5 for where he lives.

[@CTcoreytrevor]

This is unreal. A professional videographer should never, ever, ever worry about overheating. I was actually considering this camera until I saw this video. Even if it only overheats a little bit, some of the time.....I would never even consider buying it.

[@learningcameras]

I mean the grip essentially solves overheating, but it does mean using the fan at a noticeably high speed and is way louder at those speeds than the FX3 and S5IIX which are my other 2 cameras with active cooling. If you're indoors, you can get away with the slower fan speeds. So it does fix overheating, but it doesn't add any functionality and the implementation feels a bit 3rd party since it doesn't have an auto mode that just gradually increases fan speeds as needed to prevent shutting down or ability to change while recording. So it wasn't as good as I hoped but with this fan grip on high, the camera shouldn't actually overheat

[@LonzosStudios]

So you're recording in 4k 60 and it's overheating?

[@learningcameras]

I was shooting 4k24. I don't usually do long recordings in 4k60 so I just used 4k24 Fine

[@chucknorris8704]

Thats terrible. My Tilta cooling fan + dummy battery powered by external powerbank produces way less body heat and lasts longer than these overpriced battery grips.

[@contentm3893]

What about 4k 120fps? If you film a 4K 120fps on the R5II then overheating will be worse.

[@learningcameras]

@@contentm3893 I never do long recordings in 4k120 so overheating in that has never been a concern of mine but let me know if it matters to you and I'll test it

[@contentm3893]

@@learningcameras Please do a test if you can. 4K 120fps will tax the camera more and overheating will happen sooner. On the R3 it happens quick. The R3 does not overheat at 4K 24 or 60p even in RAW, so it will be interesting to see what the R5II does.

[@motusfilms5977]

just think about 8k 60fps

[@ШотаГоголи]

I offer my condolences to you and the Canon company

[@learningcameras]

That seems a bit much haha

[@SuperSdbaby]

Don’t encourage bad behavior!😇🧑🏽‍🎓

[@Eightpspi]

No r5 2 for me. This seals the deal for me. Ill deal with my 30 min record limit. My r5 doesnt overheat!

[@learningcameras]

I'm curious to see if they can improve it via firmware. The R5 was definitely worse when it first came out...even indoors it wouldn't last that long so while the R5II overheats faster than the R5 now, it's in a better starting place